From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 01:41:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E63B106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 01:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A488FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 01:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so5471684iwn.13 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=AG5kuzFHHTuBBVi92yK1RLPLd3NR0y1DbtOIZWQEVBY=; b=WiciwEI01G3mdEXhmPuBYNnoaQc37ZIjAUWMOiWzN+xwAEGPEVMap4mektXXn5TcvX c3AKZ3ZBsujKxwvKFpAAgVTgIgrvDWYkzmXefRKJp+aordvhU6kLnQ/cJD+E6Tlu01JP akgFL0IO8SJ/RwS7/X6v6p3GGtYJf5W2RF7Is= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nFKYTEn0NEjT5fFIJIzBDTD54LUYdApsWOQweTSNBycds23MA2SQSr1axgRUUw9Iv0 TEhWfKNAxkczT26Ccj5/pjL6A0d/nyw3PEVX6kwkDbOStydbKSjumgK4AGHOxmuYkc/j TEaUUjycbOOz7hpHn7kuDMbG7yO1cfAwpXZXM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.74.2 with SMTP id s2mr5261636ibj.8.1304212712281; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.170.136 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 01:41:20 -0000 Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 07:29:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A2D106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=5qTpg9Kl=XX=beatsnet.com=beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) Received: from vulcan.beatsnet.com (sigi.broker.freenet6.net [IPv6:2001:5c0:1400:b::2a7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6478FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Beat-Siegenthalers-MacBook-Pro.local (zux165-132.adsl.green.ch [80.254.165.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by vulcan.beatsnet.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p417ThOj067526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 09:29:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from beat.siegenthaler@beatsnet.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=beatsnet.com; s=VULCAN_DKIM; t=1304234984; bh=WpgpIMN/E6ezdbMWYC/wSyqUzIQlxO3ICOXjhEOSfuQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fCjco8dUaeR5yKtcNEQeeDuJ9DRisuBbgajNPhLjnYCyCJrzAzLBef1LemjbyjMK/ AtyV1UMjokIsf7nTYOR10/JsD8eehXbzulb0TCbE/bTz6yy2TOdeah20yfzThUfgoH KVMzm7f5cJy/4n2cPWoN+pqwzaMPJjo6tHUdC4XM= Message-ID: <4DBD0BE1.3080204@beatsnet.com> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 09:29:37 +0200 From: Beat Siegenthaler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110421175624.GA9589@aurora.oekb.co.at> In-Reply-To: <20110421175624.GA9589@aurora.oekb.co.at> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (vulcan.beatsnet.com [193.138.215.102]); Sun, 01 May 2011 09:29:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at vulcan.beatsnet.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Admin-tools for BIND DNS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 07:29:48 -0000 On 21.04.11 19:56, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for graphical tools easing configuration of a bind > DNS-server. Ideally this tool should be capable of editing > IPv6-related records like AAAA too. > > Is there anything available out there for FreeBSD (I already checked > the ports collection, but couldn't find anything). > webmin it's in ports collection already.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 11:10:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52511065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABAF8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so2447552gyg.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.183.18 with SMTP id g18mr5546389ybf.396.1304248238617; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19sm867920ybe.25.2011.05.01.04.10.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 04:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QMmJq6cXTz2CG4n for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 07:10:35 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:10:39 -0000 On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 Arthur Barlow articulated: > Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I > tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from > NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want to check with regarding that. All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: . -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Conformity is the refuge of the unimaginative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 11:24:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67805106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:24:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19268FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4832084wyf.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 04:24:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5HjZIa3edMtPynw0iAnrUI/+9J3NWfTs1qYO6Ji4TG4=; b=tcfKrSyUedvNpa4wGXdS9W63UaMjz3xH1tJzOtBAJ5FYizOqm9RbKtVBjRsV6g9guQ 86L4yp3r3gLwulM70HHQ1Dj2OOxTLcdV8kfBed/p6+FBH9gFpE5rUCqmCT0ehnCZB0Sd UuGlKZMWnVs9EHRuNbBBjDr8eSTgQpOBNQKMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cy7CxFbHfFg39hmDYzUiTPfpVcwLwK/d6YNrjH6azSk/pvFSkpxeUxsiBKkAtnP9VP a9oru70k5Ui8fd7ofZ1tmuGSV5Gpdol6Lh96rXgVgjw/7FitgPcoxy9bMq+E6OF15jme yT2MlZ0oZCB3q+aHxzWcQMg3a4cwjFGbFS+K8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.203.195 with SMTP id f45mr1359849weo.89.1304247599692; Sun, 01 May 2011 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.129 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 03:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 12:59:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: claudiu vasadi To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: hanging process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 11:24:54 -0000 Hi guys, I have a amd64 8.2-RELEASE box running on a core2duo 2.2 GHz Intel with 6GB of RAM (ddr2). Earlier today I started "cvsup -g -L 2 -h `fastest_cvsup -q -c tld` /root/cvsup/kernel-supfile" and at some point, my ISP had a problem and my ssh connection dropped. Since that point, the server has a really low response time ("man top" takes ~1 minute to display). Besides this, I can't even reboot and a "shutdown -r now" halts the system with "some processes could not be killed" message. I manually killed the hanging ssh session and also flushed the pf state, reloading the rules (pfctl -F all -f /etc/pf.conf) but I have the same problem. CTRL+T after the "reboot" cmd shows: "load: 0.00 cmd: reboot 61080 [zilog->zl_cv_writer)] 49.39r 0.00u 0.00s 0% 1216k" but pretty much nothing happens. In the past, I had the same problem while running portmaster via ssh after my initial session dropped. It seems there is a hanging process but I cannot find it. Any help is appreciated. -- Best regards, Claudiu Vasadi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:17:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF22106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D920E8FC13 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5764821iyj.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.193 with SMTP id i1mr5677948ibd.199.1304255853391; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.23.68 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 09:17:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Tws-JBvPRZfz4jt0U8QAzHWytFw Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Monthly Login Accounting Report - What do the numbers mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:17:35 -0000 > Doing login accounting: > total 726.98 > aimass 508.96 > cctun 216.80 > cmm 0.84 > delco 0.37 > hugo 0.01 > What do these numbers mean? Is it login times? How can you login 0.01 times??? I know for a fact that in April hugo logged in exactly 1 time to do an scp of a large file. Are these numbers percentages ? guess not because there would be no total! Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 13:40:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22F5106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E178FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4792377fxm.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=lPlJhe5A3WRMYolPJnSWIbw8pF/yfC0KwnFvkNAhlhk=; b=CnE2Miuq/iJmCwQu2BzchMcByCa0qfDFntRHnkdj5DSnyteDayZCNfCKNqnU9dhOQj 29qcVSTtqvG31rPAVFQzbouwOcsfvMDQYTCi34JGoygPssjCh/uO6X/IA/CsvpGZleaI MATNXiHAVq7pHhVjY6nvI+Wkq8iMLGmQFGc8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=tDBBgdK1EGkzAjti2Yam9bkrrcC30VtmKNLbeLNn5uuP3SLTC+YIezHRwGUDC6nFLF t74dmXA3WPO4bxOSwk2I21w+oSNUHYwat5oR+qx56YnzyRiOmuU/gnjHmQ2vJtSfWXg9 asJm0fL5PboN3XM+U3iDaAgzadq+Ob9izC0u0= Received: by 10.223.64.66 with SMTP id d2mr2385125fai.116.1304257219089; Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org ([213.132.76.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o17sm1471008fal.1.2011.05.01.06.40.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 06:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org (yuri@procyon.xvoid.org [IPv6:::1]) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p41DeFj4032212; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p41DeEGt032211; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: procyon.xvoid.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:40:14 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov To: Alejandro Imass Message-ID: <20110501134014.GA77191@procyon.xvoid.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Monthly Login Accounting Report - What do the numbers mean? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 13:40:20 -0000 On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 09:17:33AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: > > Doing login accounting: > > total 726.98 > > aimass 508.96 > > cctun 216.80 > > cmm 0.84 > > delco 0.37 > > hugo 0.01 > > > > What do these numbers mean? Is it login times? How can you login 0.01 > times??? I know for a fact that in April hugo logged in exactly 1 time > to do an scp of a large file. Are these numbers percentages ? guess > not because there would be no total! It's ac(8) output, and those number are (quoting manpage) "accumulated connect time (in hours) for all logins". HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 14:45:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78861106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from denprog@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BAA8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so2204795pxi.7 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sB33RyyNtR4JTlNhpUUHhjNONhZ0+Z3yjSr53KH6sdI=; b=r6Xk3WC6rYQ9mA7kC5+ECU2Q/L2m2pJI6FnUKNVJYXCgDpC2+zbo+E+7KNrqbhxKQ2 R+PafpvAOujm1utXOJlz97lBagN69pGMUaj+H9VY/Vk2S5OZHW2wUUKOj5+Cf9zIy1oO jOLIujG3/YODv1Ze8+NqBf4BJZfLqG1bY3WzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hhO2OGGuvv7yOZpGFdDf5WXba+NtPUrtF2SZ2mzN+Dk/fsjEpz2pZb8jSJUdSeXdJe 30IrpbQGCsRXvZj6FOM3qlt13J1ylT3+Z1Ju5FQdhSDGdwzxAY6g3CS9K+C2XlSBK7rk +OLcA81FAk9Ge8DsLXDkjjxhdtjzKqIaLuuo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.68.203 with SMTP id y11mr6383219pbt.487.1304261127855; Sun, 01 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.49.130 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 07:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:45:27 +0600 Message-ID: From: Denis Rybakov To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:10:01 +0000 Cc: Subject: dcvs passwd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 14:45:28 -0000 -- How I may stay commiter? Where I may get passwd on ssh,dcvs,pcvs,svn? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:15:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E0D106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A3E8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGZIS-0001Zr-Li for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:15:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 12:18:02 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:15:05 -0000 Jerry wrote: > On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 > Arthur Barlow articulated: > >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > to check with regarding that. > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > . > Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may have been tried. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 16:53:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E696106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp3.one.com (csmtp3.one.com [91.198.169.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A38FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from diamond.diamondbox.dk (0x4dd7c703.adsl.cybercity.dk [77.215.199.3]) by csmtp3.one.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A01B424062D7; Sun, 1 May 2011 16:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4DBD8B61.8040605@diamondbox.dk> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:33:37 +0200 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110430 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Powell References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:53:19 -0000 On 05/01/2011 18:18, Michael Powell wrote: > Jerry wrote: > >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 >> Arthur Barlow articulated: >> >>> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >>> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >>> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? >> You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of >> your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the >> latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe >> that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, >> but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want >> to check with regarding that. >> >> All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: >> . >> > Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, > nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may have > been tried. > > -Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > 270.41.06 was released around a week ago, and runs fine here. The version in ports hasn't been updated for several releases. br - Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 17:01:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE481065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849DA8FC1B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5878822iyj.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 10:01:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hkpwulvz7jTUUscfpliMvauwEndUkZ3rLT2srRpsb8k=; b=KWPiwikW/mv0h/2eh/AeaOLivxLn8SB5lcuw8oa7PBeR/Q9JgwxULqAhNlLm/xU3vU G2XtoBQlRO2Mc+d5F8jGdVbd0mtTIM9mKgWJRi5ZHWvdPUwkeprsnETWc6QftlwL4xqK oFFRou9cnFIDvS1T4iDGRwcs1lh2kJpB1zdXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B1bllzyqkIN6rn1MLcPbylpDXulQ88cjswLK933WcYtmjGvrXfgtId2nUalgiEv77s gjzRh6oolofMtqP/7/cNtXGameYbESvPDrPprH36T7KJNRwW9QqpWNWx+dZb2YH3McaS agLR+dTqWl5/9mTQAAORG00oCjYHsHTKNwhFg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.34.4 with SMTP id j4mr5946852ibd.83.1304269306832; Sun, 01 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.170.136 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Arthur Barlow To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: jerry@seibercom.net Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 17:01:47 -0000 >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? =C2=A0I >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >> NVIDIA. =C2=A0No joy. =C2=A0Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > to check with regarding that. > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > . > > -- > Jerry =E2=9C=8C > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video card hacker. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 18:03:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0746106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38498FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5094890vxc.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:03:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.66.66 with SMTP id d2mr1613763vdt.25.1304273002557; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.163.39 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:03:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.190.76] In-Reply-To: References: <20110425151846.0a5359fd@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:03:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Password theft from memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 18:03:24 -0000 On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Modulok wrote: > I know that each process has its own private memory segment, but after a > process exits, it nolonger owns that memory. What happens to it? If it's not > zeroed out by my process, and it doesn't turn into pixie food, and it's not > zeroed out by malloc... it still exists somewhere. If I understand this correctly, when a process exits, the kernel reclaims its address space and inserts it into its own address space (i.e. in a free list). At this point, the pages are NOT (yet) zeroed out, they're merely detached from the exiting process and attached to the kernel's free list. Optionally, they may be zeroed in some time in the future, when a special kernel thread pre-zeroes some pages there for faster allocation later. In any case, when a new process starts and tries to mmap(2) those pages, the kernel VM will lazily zero them out one by one upon first access by the process. So, unless you access /dev/kmem to read virtual kernel memory directly, you have NO way of getting access to the old data, even when it is not yet zeroed. And as long as the permissions on /dev/kmem are sensibly set, only privileged processes could access kernel virtual memory. Coming to think of it, there's another exception besides /dev/kmem: a kernel module runs with kernel privileges, and has access to the pages (of all processes, and of the kernel including those on the free list). But this is to be expected: a KLD becomes a part of the kernel when loaded. > Maybe this would be best on hackers? > -Modulok- -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:03:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F01D1065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BF68FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so5054194wyf.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IMJS747mgJSHn7eM0tWkmSHkSzePbl/AwZP2QNQsMH8=; b=E3gd+PbdWu2DMDimfILzPyxAXP5VXeq7MTYUSe6CuVOYuTw/AeE7VpLdXBG9AyDZY3 EDiR9O518blDKl1ApEBbIPPXc0BgFLH7/n2rdqu0kR9B8gNXLj3aGDaNZTQbfSeXqlnD 4a5PH/qgummWbM8MrfGTReiMet8TczvcSI8s4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kwqTi0O1fO/N9i66QHxJZoA768X3JbM+qLKahT2oxqLfYZUA2dWVv+6JiZBxZrlBKe 3KGYFegJJh1LAH4rTYxrnlu9LYLybt+xTGOzAWieaQ1yoMZhvF8mJZTUXH6ANxBm8wVR ngaI4Pq8fOvcxWjGAXkm6R5d8mgBSUcDh0eVE= Received: by 10.227.7.87 with SMTP id c23mr3257862wbc.108.1304283778551; Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm2998967wbc.27.2011.05.01.14.02.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 01 May 2011 14:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 22:02:53 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110501220253.242dc399@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 21:03:00 -0000 On Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700 Arthur Barlow wrote: > Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. > Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the > "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a > version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the > FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video > card hacker. nvidia-driver-173 doesn't work on amd64. If that's your issue then you may be better-off with the i386 version of FreeBSD. FreeBSD 8.x added the kernel features require by nvidia before they would implement a 64-bit version, but nvidia-driver-173 was already a legacy driver at that point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 21:57:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D1E106564A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave-freebsd@pooserville.com) Received: from smtp.pooserville.com (mail.pooserville.com [69.26.223.253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B74E8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail.pooserville.com) by smtp.pooserville.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id LKJCG6-0001KJ-L7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:54 -0500 Received: from [24.27.124.167] (account dave-sa@pooserville.com HELO [192.168.74.51]) by mail.pooserville.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 943800 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:54 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.10.0.110310 Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 16:16:49 -0500 From: Dave Pooser To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 21:57:18 -0000 I'm planning on setting up a machine to run a Java server app, and the OS candidates are CentOS or FreeBSD. I'd prefer FreeBSD, for reasons mostly involving ZFS and DTrace, but when I go to http://www.freebsd.org/java I notice that the binaries are certified with 6.x/7.x and the last entry in "Newsflash" is posted July 10 of 2010. This does not, on the surface, appear to be a vibrant and active project. That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux? -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com "Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions.... It's the only way to make progress." -- Terry Pratchett, _The Truth_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:03:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D567106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E424A8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4989887fxm.13 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:03:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SBTFkLiceNyr53Kvh6huRWd7tGenrIjMzg4j2UAZtVc=; b=qeuG2rSzwEIKgrS9GVJNvSvMZ0QBdCRINOVmqUdoNbRwUfktasecWhV9B+LDYcGjOl enhlqmbYnMFJL7rCU4fFgoJ23e0fQikjEuioBG7IlvEnkDwKDJoHU74dKG70dp44DUWM 1IR+d7gwqn90icobF7clC2xwalWdWVVWsBRyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RKEy1kCb2sO7bhiC0OrJB0GV39yet02Aia++LSaVf2S5SU5/H+C4EW6ZWrY9/tuupk +G2o3dbFlBppSryXtrOYrI9zzoU+diAdtS3c+Do73j8Lb/YKPcP5g+BHE96YZFtwQZlE EE3UswTVhDOjgbqwQ+1Vd4406pp95PXQGLHdU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.106.78 with SMTP id w14mr6266533fao.35.1304287419938; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.20.145 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:03:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Dave Pooser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ongoing JRE support in FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:03:41 -0000 On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: > That said, I see there are packages in the 8.2 RELEASE tree, so there's > clearly some kind of work going on. I guess my question is, can I expect > FreeBSD to be a solid platform for Java deployment going forward, or am I > better off taking the road more traveled and deploying on Linux? > Unless you're willing to use OpenJDK, Linux is better option. The native JDK runs fine under 8, but it's patchset is severely out of date. OpenJDK has improved a lot and is a good substitute for me, but you may wish to check into it's suitability for your use. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 22:20:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013B3106566C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@johnea.net) Received: from mail.johnea.net (johnea.net [70.167.123.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0DB8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 22:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.100.166] (traveler.johnea.net [192.168.100.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.johnea.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FDD173F1863 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DBDD8D2.7090808@johnea.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 15:04:02 -0700 From: freebsd@johnea.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101230 Lanikai/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ugen device continuously disconnects after upgrade to 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:20:25 -0000 Hello, Not sure if this list is correct, or if I should post to freebsd-usb? Anyway, I have a USB connected UPS device that shows as /dev/ugen1.2 and is identified by usbconfig: ugen1.2: at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON The device continuously disconnects an re-enumerates, as shown in /var/log/messages: May 1 14:36:57 epicenter root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x0764 product 0x0501 bus uhub1 May 1 14:36:57 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 May 1 14:37:19 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 (disconnected) May 1 14:37:22 epicenter root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x0764 product 0x0501 bus uhub1 May 1 14:37:22 epicenter kernel: ugen1.2: at usbus1 I had this problem before in 7.1, but it was corrected in upgrading to 7.3. Now that I've upgraded to 8.1 the problem is back. The device is listed in the device quirks: epicenter# usbconfig -d ugen1.2 dump_device_quirks | grep 0x0764 VID=0x0764 PID=0x0501 REVLO=0x0000 REVHI=0xffff QUIRK=UQ_HID_IGNORE Lack of the UQ_HID_IGNORE is what messed up 7.1, not sure what is keeping 8.1 from identifying this device. Anyone have any ideas what is wrong? Thank You! johnea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:06:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC372106566B for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:06:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richardehr08@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744AA8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so5285103wwc.31 for ; Sun, 01 May 2011 16:06:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bv2OLhzOz61/R0Ef9lYOr6/YuGIUPRMNCiv/8wNeVHc=; b=RST0PzPF4oeYdOql0sD8Au3eQ3EBFRN+laHx7VgcGoarHmbrU1V8lPHneyEKfNls5N 3hDDKBJtrnOOoUMmgxBt5laUILHQfOxMw4q++KsKJZtKpe18xjwZ7+eCoK61+oAAHzaa kywt0HtjDv0KT9vEtwM6m9MYI9O/IKSqsaxUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=feCkL1R4ZQTA7C+mt/jdA321Xu+TvX2zxDj2LfvuQQTGX76TPZyzgIf6GXAE+wNgB+ PSejw/B5UGVnhOaBbA3gUH4QFHMtrDhx50aBM71Nh/SZPoLJLf737jKnSyPKUSIZ/2ez G1R37ooUQr160wxKrdtRrLn2VOiPeLPKfNdek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.145.195 with SMTP id p45mr377153wej.61.1304289791748; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.170.199 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2011 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 17:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Richard Ehrlich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: py-django12 failed install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:06:31 -0000 When I attempt to install py-django12 on freeBSD 8.2 with python 2.6.5 already installed, I get the following: richarde@test3- /usr/ports/www/py-django12 # make install clean "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 304: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 304: Malformed conditional (!empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM) && ( ${_PYTHON_VERSION} < ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM})) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 307: warning: String comparison operator should be either == or != "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.python.mk", line 307: Malformed conditional (!empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM) && ( ${_PYTHON_VERSION} > ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM})) "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6452: if-less endif make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue bsd.python.mk lines 303/304 currently read: .if !empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM) && ( \ ${_PYTHON_VERSION} < ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MINIMUM}) bsd.python.mk lines 306/307 currently read: .elif !empty(_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM) && ( \ ${_PYTHON_VERSION} > ${_PYTHON_VERSION_MAXIMUM}) The error message warnings don't seem logical. Any suggestions? Thanks, -- RichardE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:11:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B21065670 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gosand1982@yahoo.com) Received: from nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97D2A8FC1C for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.172] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 957806.20310.bm@omp1028.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 58710 invoked by uid 60001); 1 May 2011 22:58:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304290725; bh=Z1Ex6GbS3H6WltgC53q73tUqwmj+i7dscaYBR+cqF6o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y4JoXWZuKV8neLJZ5YmlpkFHvoYzchco6j8Hz8gFdvnHH+kl7vWU+j9rwhr1j8y5pDSwObQiQ+w6VkleVUVSDK8Pi3Z6NpU2Vhjf4I82eSefHeU+s1nQfmBPKm7ztCGNdjDUgGDZ+7oIsMlqqZlRIj1ZDVOIjLgCQRaWjhzSmyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A3FKW1+MeYbB7+GGM0k/iuRtQfwZdfJF791JCs5OA83ZgfXyIdX9cVaJ7+jtMC6moHBSWouZVIxrZyMwwZf0eCrwz2G9lWUpfmKwo6mV4Pt0g/o9uRF/Tm0FC5wOGQqVvqdm6d6e7BnRSKL6emK64dY8jnxBdlRLh7aBqRHu/Ws=; Message-ID: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YgK4mn8VM1lowXyexzv7jtetofcGYOH1qhQTG2Ev9YX1Ivt kNPyaRcxRmm9oLuOEotdpy3rZsWX8TX8POHjADl6Veed80_lLyXxATvd2gF. QFOkl9mZdmMGhjAMOQatKJxniOw28cbrieBnQnfkh5KoMUj2IYgF2tJ58QJ1 zIE2LJbQTlyaHe2zRzfFPYg7_LwxBimA0vXdbO_po4uOVggJW7fzMnb5IZzd _ssJSBSb8CQz0xg0e2h9g7jlS9_8vCjzu15VVMdxNXfrHcmZiWYebg2W73AJ hB35Vktx6UZBum87aTLV6H0F7tL4WAP6jw70i1UfK3Y.38_ZB01k- Received: from [12.202.173.2] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 May 2011 15:58:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: George Sanders To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:18:01 +0000 Subject: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:11:55 -0000 I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual login activity, etc. However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. Is there any way around this ? Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or rsync ? Or conversely: Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or rsync accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:42:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204531065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0768FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p41Ngf5w053806 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 May 2011 18:42:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 18:42:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201105012342.p41Ngf5w053806@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:42:37 -0000 > Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: George Sanders > Subject: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? > > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that > when I log in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and > notice any unusual login activity, etc. > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function > at all > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > Is there any way around this ? > > Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or > rsync ? > > Or conversely: > > Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or > rsync accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 23:56:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CEE1065672 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7F58FC15 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 23:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QGgUo-00010K-Sw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 01:56:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 19:59:19 -0400 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <20110501071035.1d52818e@scorpio> <4DBD8B61.8040605@diamondbox.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: NVIDIA-driver-173 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 23:56:17 -0000 Nikolaj Thygesen wrote: > On 05/01/2011 18:18, Michael Powell wrote: >> Jerry wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:18:32 -0700 >>> Arthur Barlow articulated: >>> >>>> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? I >>>> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from >>>> NVIDIA. No joy. Does anyone know of other possibilities? >>> You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of >>> your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the >>> latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe >>> that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, >>> but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want >>> to check with regarding that. >>> >>> All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: >>> . >>> >> Also in /usr/ports/x11 are the ports for nvidia-driver, nvidia-driver-71, >> nvidia-driver-96, and nvidia-driver-173. It is unclear what/which may >> have been tried. >> >> -Mike [snip] > > 270.41.06 was released around a week ago, and runs fine here. The > version in ports hasn't been updated for several releases. > > br - Nikolaj > Quite some time back Nvidia split the driver collections into recent and legacy. The newest latest driver package does not have any support for old cards previous to a certain time. For cards that old you must use one of the old legacy driver sets. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:13:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF644106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 938F18FC08 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B453CA4C; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p420DHon005025; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200 From: Polytropon To: George Sanders Message-Id: <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:13:20 -0000 On Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders wrote: > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log > in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual > login activity, etc. > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > Is there any way around this ? Create a file ~/.login and put your commands (in sh syntax, not csh) there. This file will only be executed at interactive logins. See "man csh", section FILES for details. > Is there some way to specify an alternate login shell when I use scp or rsync ? I'm sure the login shell has to be defined by the system, usually by the /etc/passwd file, field "shell"; therefore see "man 5 passwd". > Or conversely: > > Is there some way for my login shell (csh) to notice that it is scp or rsync > accessing the system, and skip the text output for them ? I don't think so, but it should work fine when you move the commands out of the shell configuration file (which is also read by script shells AND interactive shells) to the login startup file (which is only executed if the shell is an interactive login shell). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:17:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536DF106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151128FC0C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1959D3CA95; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p420HUna005065; Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 02:17:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110502021730.f87d654f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <761855.57021.qm@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20110502021317.af30339c.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: George Sanders Subject: Re: Any way to have login output AND use rsync/scp ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:17:32 -0000 On Mon, 2 May 2011 02:13:17 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 1 May 2011 15:58:45 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders wrote: > > I have my .cshrc file run some basic netstat and 'w' commands so that when I log > > in, I can see at a glance what is going on on the system and notice any unusual > > login activity, etc. > > > > However this completely breaks both scp and rsync - they cannot function at all > > (apparently) with any kind of stdio output from the shell. > > > > Is there any way around this ? > > > Create a file ~/.login and put your commands (in sh syntax, > not csh) there. This file will only be executed at interactive > logins. See "man csh", section FILES for details. Sorry, wrote before thinking. :-) Of course ~/.login is csh syntax, as I would guess after (missed to) read the file's header which states: # .login - csh login script, read by login shell, after `.cshrc' at login. # see also csh(1), environ(7). So simply moving your commands from .cshrc to .login should be fully sufficient. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 00:47:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE307106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A07E8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 00:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal (svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal [10.48.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p420ATLb022848 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:10:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.48.0.24]) by svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 8, 4, 9558) id ; Mon, 02 May 2011 10:10:29 +1000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:10:29 +1000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <629611.69016.qm@web113601.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? thread-index: AcwGXUHn5Sq2duabSuWuaYoJDFWoowB/++nQ From: "Murray Taylor" To: Subject: RE: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:47:15 -0000 =20If you are using KDE try kpdftool from ports splits file / merges files / ... --=20 Murray Taylor Bytecraft Systems Special Projects Engineer P: +61 3 8710 0600 D: +61 3 9238 4275 F: +61 3 9238 4140 =20|_|0|_| "Absence of evidence =20|_|_|0| is not evidence of absence" =20|0|0|0| Carl Sagan =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Dino Vliet Sent: Friday, 29 April 2011 4:57 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to concatenate 2 pdf files to 1? Dear freebsd userlist, here an application type of question. I have two pdf files and want to make 1 out of them by concatenating them. Does anyone have an idea how to do that on unix/linux as I don't have the pdf editor from Adobe. So fileA.pd en fileB.pdf should become fileC.pdf (where C is A+B) Brgds Dino _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110408 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=9jMDsWx+xKe1k7MiQTtfraZb4X8hU8mWteHgCHeKziI= c=1 sm=1 a=9dbVxmVYL3YA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=5tKAl6LZhBnMgsYvvmeC/w==:17 a=-hyCGDrDAAAA:8 a=cexIBkohAAAA:8 a=odRC58kGr9J2mwOKo2QA:9 a=CQet2J5PWbJb7ReUp7MA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Er2gK3W4G3kA:10 a=5tKAl6LZhBnMgsYvvmeC/w==:117 Subject: freebsd zfs question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 00:59:10 -0000 Good Day; A week or so ago I experienced an error trying to compile openoffice.org from ports. The build failed from an error I was since able to resolve. This machine is at #>uname -r rainey 8.2-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p1 #2: Wed Apr 27 04:37:38 UTC 2011 michael@rainey:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_042511 amd64 During that episode the workstation locked up and the only way to recover was to do a hard reset (power off). I then noticed during the next weekly scrub that I had increasing errors listed for the root pool during that particular scrub; # zpool status pool: tank state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data corruption. Applications may be affected. action: Restore the file in question if possible. Otherwise restore the entire pool from backup. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-8A scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank ONLINE 0 0 0 ad2p3 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad3p1 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: 604 data errors, use '-v' for a list pool: tank1 state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM tank1 ONLINE 0 0 0 ad12p2 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors Tank consists of 2 300G PATA drives in a mirror. Tank1 is a 500G SATA drive I just added recently to use for data archiving. The stuff I wish to protect is backed up to a network file server manually via NFS. I have scrubbed the pool showing errors several times now with no increases or decreases in error counts. I have issued #>zpool clear tank a number of times with no change in the error count. The document listed (www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-8A) was of no apparent help for my condition. I have drives I can export to and import from but I am unclear as to whether I will be just moving the bad blocks around. Sample of the output of #>zpool status -v tank; < tank/root:<0x1097e7> tank/root:<0x1096e8> tank/root:<0x1097e8> tank/root:<0x1096e9> tank/root:<0x1097e9> tank/root:<0x1095ea> tank/root:<0x1097ea> tank/root:<0x1096eb> tank/root:<0x1097eb> tank/root:<0x1096ec> tank/root:<0x1097ec> tank/root:<0x1095ed> tank/root:<0x1096ed> tank/root:<0x1097ed> tank/root:<0x1094ee> tank/root:<0x1096ee> tank/root:<0x1095ef> > Not sure what to do with these. Why doesn't #>zpool clear tank delete these? The directory /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work was not able to be deleted after the failed build, so I moved it to /oldwork to get the port to build. /oldwork still cannot be deleted. rainey# rm -Rf ./oldwork rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/dictionaries: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/bin: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/misc/build: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro/misc: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene/unxfbsdx.pro: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/lucene: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/jfreereport: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/libxslt: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20/sal: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork/OOO330_m20: Directory not empty rm: ./oldwork: Directory not empty Attempts to delete the above directories fail. I've read articles about 'bit rot' and such in ZFS metadata but memtest86 completes without error on this machine's 3G of ram. I see no applicable information in dmesg or /var/log/messages. The drives have been running 24/7 since the initial incident with no increase in the error count. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 09:05:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3451065674 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 09:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbak@inbox.lv) Received: from shark3.inbox.lv (shark3.inbox.lv [89.111.3.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63B08FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 09:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.inbox.lv (pop [10.0.1.110]) by shark3-plain.inbox.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB511D62 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 12:04:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [10.2.2.50] (m0n0.serverbank.hu [62.77.131.200]) (Authenticated sender: mbak) by mail.inbox.lv (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 692B415319 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 12:04:57 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <4DBE73B5.60908@inbox.lv> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:04:53 +0200 From: Mikael Bak User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DB6D082.4020907@inbox.lv> <4DB6D839.3010809@inbox.lv> <4DB704E9.7000802@fisglobal.com> <007101cc0452$471bb7d0$d5532770$@vicor.com> In-Reply-To: <007101cc0452$471bb7d0$d5532770$@vicor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: OK Subject: Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:05:01 -0000 Devin Teske wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave >> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:46 AM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Suddenly lots processes exits signal 11 (core dumped) >> >> I second the idea that this is a RAM issue. >> >> Power down, ground yourself, remove and re-seat the RAM and see if the >> problem goes away. > > Here's a small ISO containing memtest86 (and more). This ISO is a "hybrid ISO" meaning that you can either burn it to CD/DVD and boot off it, or you can dd(1) it to a thumb drive and boot off that. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/druidbsd/files/Druid-0.0.iso/download > > Here's the instructions for writing it to USB (you likely already know how to write an ISO to CD/DVD): > Hi list, I would like to thank everyone who answered to this thread. An additional extra thank you to the kind list memeber who gave me instructions on how to download and build an USB version of memtest86. Needless to say that after identifying the failing memory module with memtest86 we have not had a single failure on this machine. Thank you all! Mikael Bak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 11:00:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5513106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F16C8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 11:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p429ltn5018477; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:55 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p429lstc018470; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:55 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BA93A33C3D; Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 10:47:54 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Arthur Barlow Message-ID: <20110502094754.GA60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110501120032.C345E10656FE@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="envbJBWh7q8WU6mo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nvidia problem Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 11:00:06 -0000 --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:01:46AM -0700, Arthur Barlow wrote: > > >> Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x? =A0I > >> tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from > >> NVIDIA. =A0No joy. =A0Does anyone know of other possibilities? > > > > You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of > > your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the > > latest version in the posts system, "nvidia-driver-256.53_1"? I believe > > that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06, > > but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want > > to check with regarding that. > > > > All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on: > > . > > > > -- > > Jerry ??? > > jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net >=20 > Sorry. I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card. > Because of it's "age", NVIDIA says that it need the the > "nvidia-driver-173...", but NVIDIA also says they do not have a > version that works for FreeBSD 8.x. I was hoping someone in the > FreeBSD community might have ported it. Unfortunately, I'm no video > card hacker. Arthur, I have a similar card to you and I have used: x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau I don't think it does all the 3D stuff but otherwise it works well. Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2+fckACgkQHduKvUAgeK6N4wCffMDbk9+BHByYcdGkQxtYFPIJ bHcAnA2ezcMHj4iRwphLB7EFJ4jJixqO =mhDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --envbJBWh7q8WU6mo-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 17:58:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDD21065675 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammed.gamal@live.com) Received: from snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2597E8FC18 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SNT127-W41 ([65.55.90.199]) by snt0-omc4-s6.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 10:46:17 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [41.130.116.61] From: Mohammed Gamal To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:46:16 +0300 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2011 17:46:17.0589 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6CDDA50:01CC08F0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:58:21 -0000 Hi ,uname -a output: FreeBSD hti-community.co.cc 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24 :46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections doesn't exist. /usr/ports i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start on boot , i also added apache22_enable="YES" to rc.conf but no effect. 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:18:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B971106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [87.198.244.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3488C8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.12.4.120] (unknown [10.12.4.120]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DE2F0F740F; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:09:54 +0100 (IST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Barry Byrne In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:09:54 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6FFE52BE-08CD-4E66-8C09-B48B4BD2F2AB@wbtsystems.com> References: To: Mohammed Gamal X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:18:37 -0000 On 2 May 2011, at 19:06, Barry Byrne wrote: >=20 > On 2 May 2011, at 18:46, Mohammed Gamal wrote: >=20 >> 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections = doesn't exist. >> /usr/ports >=20 > Install the ports tree. >=20 > # portsnap fetch install Sorry - that should have been: # portsnap fetch extract - barry= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:19:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5E51065678 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045EB8FC18 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:19:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2320 invoked from network); 2 May 2011 18:19:10 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 May 2011 18:19:10 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC58750822; Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 6032B39842; Mon, 2 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Mohammed Gamal References: Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 14:19:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Mohammed Gamal's message of "Mon, 2 May 2011 20:46:16 +0300") Message-ID: <44iptthso8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:19:11 -0000 Mohammed Gamal writes: > Hi ,uname -a output: FreeBSD hti-community.co.cc 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24 :46 UTC 2011 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections doesn't exist. > /usr/ports You can install the ports collection, or install the package with "package_add -r" or from (for example) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/lang/php5-5.3.6.tbz You might want to look at the section on ports and packages in the handbook. These procedures are covered nicely. > i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start on boot , i also added > apache22_enable="YES" to rc.conf but no effect. If you don't install it yourself, you need to start it yourself. You can write an rc.d(8) script, but installing from a port (or package) would install one for you. > 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? Because the PermitRootLogin option is disabled by default (for good security reasons). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 18:23:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5361065670 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:23:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [87.198.244.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1028FC0C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.12.4.120] (unknown [10.12.4.120]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 81116F740E; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:06:23 +0100 (IST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Barry Byrne In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:06:23 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Mohammed Gamal X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports and Packages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:23:33 -0000 On 2 May 2011, at 18:46, Mohammed Gamal wrote: > 1-where to get php-5.3.6.tbz and mysql cuz my ports collections = doesn't exist. > /usr/ports Install the ports tree. # portsnap fetch install > i have done installing apache2.2.17 from source but it doesn't start = on boot , i also added=20 > apache22_enable=3D"YES" to rc.conf but no effect. The port version installs a startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ If you don't use the port version, you'll need to create your own Better to use the port version > 2- why i can not access root account through ssh2 ? Because it's disabled in the config as it's a security risk. Better to ssh as a normal user and use sudo/su as appropriate. If you really must, you can edit the config # vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config - barry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 22:13:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58E1065672 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carmel_ny@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.160]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451208FC1C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU0-SMTP77 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 15:13:43 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [174.109.142.1] X-Originating-Email: [carmel_ny@hotmail.com] Message-ID: Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net ([174.109.142.1]) by BLU0-SMTP77.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 2 May 2011 15:13:43 -0700 Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: carmel_ny@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QNfzT3yP4z2CG4n for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 18:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:13:41 -0400 From: Carmel To: FreeBSD Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2011 22:13:43.0267 (UTC) FILETIME=[32C60330:01CC0916] Subject: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:13:44 -0000 Just a quick question. Why are these lines identical "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8" in both the standard-supfile and the stable-supfile on a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 system? Shouldn't they be different, and if so, exactly what? -- Carmel ✌ carmel_ny@hotmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 22:47:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFCD1065674 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED6E8FC19 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 22:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so7056736iwn.13 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.136.3 with SMTP id r3mr5370295ict.335.1304376468243; Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech304 (supranet-tech.secure-on.net [66.170.8.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xe5sm2266553icb.10.2011.05.02.15.47.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 May 2011 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:47:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 22:47:49 -0000 Sounds like an error. stable-supfile should be RELENG_8 and if standard-supfile is supposed to be for the corresponding release (8.2) it should be RELENG_8_2 which gives you the 8.2 source with any official patches already applied to the source. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:01:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B6E106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from louis_marrero@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 712488FC16 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:01:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.41] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 May 2011 22:47:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304376430; bh=+WgEZ8xvK7Kz/S/amAUzCGpbhtvhIjuPyMYzq7SZC5A=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=pdwpKtqok4uIIDOPPoSqhHU+7eSLpY6BPODwSLXnfS4UMP4nTv7a/ulgVCejEbx8uht7n9rlQHqwT9AA4U9nEgC5OXFSI6qk395DwuEUV2EiJSQd88rN/ALjMSAWSa5mzkNA5N55kVr52sgpf7QqFCrVMDluG3wliOHZTFLneq8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 624416.27866.bm@smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: from LOU (louis_marrero@108.56.200.252 with login) by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 May 2011 15:47:10 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: sOosuIWswBCoS_NvSolhd5yUo8f31GnFELI- X-YMail-OSG: g9XFnfEVM1nZJy9zA._eLaYDK19BYRe.xfOtsAV_Op5GRCd E90jBOQO7o4dRVvYQ1HAeh3vApfxDiVERWFPHH3GdsBcW00qLHFM6HQ5ZCIn ATmeX50i9zuX.SsCxsClYHRN.VouEEzwzsfs_UHxpXw9_zRY85FJmf4RNs7C xYt65E7.2TRwC80W1.B4HagG_U5Pd73LPuf7iCqoniBBcnbz3jEQCVbAOs0_ M8PiFj7E4DrucNQoQbn5cEhG.zN_ei.QckzCtff9ho2nsHPTUEvy66uMvAyf zXHcGaYsnWLN8ZgDcTNeQxb3mkMck9S0aYSBoe104H85GDbHLRpqcCMtBjP0 5ccqS7p152Vq.ygyw9.GV53E- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Louis Marrero" To: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcwIMR2F8ba6dnKARkqUHmxdhM0jug== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:01:10 -0000 Gentlemen, I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able to shed some light on. Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the language. Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. Here are some questions that can help my understanding: 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based computer? 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? I'd be grateful for any information. Louis Marrero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:37:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C75106564A for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8268FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p42NbkkK032222; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Louis Marrero In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Message-ID: References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unix basics (was Re: For My Edification) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:37:48 -0000 On Mon, 2 May 2011, Louis Marrero wrote: > I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able > to shed some light on. I shall endeavor to provide dumb answers in return :^) For *good* answers, a great place to start is the Handbook, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html. In addition, I'm sure some of the many smart people on this list will speak up. Also, notice that I've changed the subject line to reflect a hint of the message's content. This list is archived, and anyone searching later migh not know to use 'edification' as a search term. > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying > to understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows > the language. > > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, > when my friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc > -u 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. When he says "shell terminal", think "command prompt". nc is netcat, but I didn't know Windows had that. In your friend's defense, I use Windows every day (at work) and I can't always remember what things are called. Especially since MS changes terminology every now and then, evidently just for the hell of it. > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD are > other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing > Windows-based computer? Yes. You can either set it up for dual boot - either by adding a second hard drive, or by partitioning your existing drive if there's space - or you can run another OS within a virtual machine of some sort. The latter would need a pretty fast machine if the guest OS is to have decent performance. Having said that, I found it easier to get started using an old PC that was too slow to run a modern Windows, but perfectly fine for a GUI-free BSD. I'm typing this on an old Dell that I bought on ebay. > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix > or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? The server's admin would have to give you a shell account. Most commercial ISPs won't do that, but maybe your friend will. > I'd be grateful for any information. Hope this helps, and welcome. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:47:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07C1106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@duanemail.org) Received: from dsmdc-mail-smtp.mcomdc.com (mail-smtp04.mcomdc.com [97.64.187.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9476A8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fc58.dubuque.org ([173.21.110.59]) by dsmdc-mail-omta-03 with bizsmtp id enZ81g00G1Gw3xZ01nZ8Ez; Mon, 02 May 2011 18:33:15 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=sB1l/blnZwjJeEoPLZPObJwRNs+h0+Ku5eqSPC7N2I8= c=1 sm=1 a=TymdA6ltPIMA:10 a=t7SsjwQDzwUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=6fRixm5YwTSEm8NrcRPlbA==:17 a=yPcFwREJAAAA:8 a=06a-7G3MRb5I1y1DfkkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=zzVMYk6FBhcA:10 a=6fRixm5YwTSEm8NrcRPlbA==:117 Received: by fc58.dubuque.org (Postfix, from userid 58) id 0901C74142B; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on fc58.dubuque.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Reqd:5.0 Hits:-1.0 Bayes:0.5 Learn:disabled Tests:ALL_TRUSTED=-1 SHORTCIRCUIT=-0.0001 Received: from [192.168.1.236] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) (Authenticated sender: duane@duanemail.org) by fc58.dubuque.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D6D12741427 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 18:33:09 -0500 From: Duane Hill X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <896229449.20110502183309@duanemail.org> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at fc58.dubuque.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Why are "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 " identical on both stable & standard supfiles X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:47:11 -0000 Hello Carmel, Monday, May 2, 2011, 5:13:41 PM, you wrote: > Just a quick question. Why are these lines identical "*default > release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_8" in both the standard-supfile and the > stable-supfile on a FreeBSD-8.2 amd64 system? Shouldn't they be > different, and if so, exactly what? Here, under /usr/share/examples/cvsup they have the correct content. Is that where you are looking? --=20 Best regards, Duane mailto:duane@duanemail.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:48:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB881065670 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saacnoraac@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC20F8FC1C for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws18 with SMTP id 18so6145970vws.13 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 16:48:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WKeDk565OSv+js1CRr33rWt5063M3NqR140sPrDgpFw=; b=sgmcFIYwWnmVLFv13wrxrVK10mIGZifnxScL8zoGMGYk+buepih+tbKcXYaAlSH2YS PUd5qVbHGHHvDMV2K2C81qJuRF1Ey2Yic38DiIOm0Rvi9mVfcOAmH+VMNZfbWU67U7Nc A8x8PtHDsscF7Yxm4VfMv0v1KKhgv6sopBWYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tBoP0aeVvwrTLnlfBaOdVsrKFAGoAHUOuLfwzKJ0LuVng40P9SpxyrDvtj1jM9jany Rcs455lCt8lnf/dwPfl6jvUzsQUpfLup1HQXpyyO6R2BjKNlsgbWISS8OeBZSQbyOAFB K/A+JViWHkGXRq/qNx4XfCsg9DTUi9NNI5pTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.122.169 with SMTP id l41mr2535414vcr.37.1304378734463; Mon, 02 May 2011 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.200.133 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2011 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 20:25:34 -0300 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?UmlhY2sgUmFhY3bDtmVqYdee15nXm9ec15DXoNeSJ9ec15U=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:48:30 -0000 Hi, I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2) in my laptop, I would like to know, How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome from shell. I hope to receive information from you. --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thanks & Best Regards, Riack =D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7=9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 2 23:55:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9714F106566B for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B428FC13 for ; Mon, 2 May 2011 23:55:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p42Nr7Av085409; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p42Nr7ZT085408; Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:53:07 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Louis Marrero Message-ID: <20110502235307.GA85269@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 23:55:50 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Louis Marrero wrote: > Gentlemen, > > I have a number of really dumb questions that I hope you might be able to > shed some light on. > > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to > understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the > language. > > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my > friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u > 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. > > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? Yes. In fact, the machine I am currently typing on is 'dual booted' Win XP and FreeBSD. The FreeBSD Handbook covers how to do it quite well, though it might take a little studying to begin to get the picture. One note -- you need to install the MS system first and then the FreeBSD system because MS does not like to play friendly with other systems. Study the handbook first so you have a more useful idea of what things are and then ask more questions. > > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > I don't think I understand what you are asking here well enough to respond to this. By the way, BSD stands for Berkley Software Distribution referring to University of California at Berkley software development group which originally took the Bell Labs experiment and built it up in to a real OS and distributed it. Then there is a long soap opera of law suits and companies springing up to try and make a quick $$$buck and finally some people put a fully free version. That story has links on the FreeBSD web site too. Have Fun, ////jerry > > > I'd be grateful for any information. > > > > Louis Marrero > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:36:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E271106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCE68FC18 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so8824849bwz.17 for ; Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2Kdk5aZj36Kj25URm9fE+34fFpYhQieOeTswIyAPAas=; b=sWg5uAratz5jHTYJMLoWYOBUT3wkmmO1+h7DLKz7oUzz0Yp1JwK0cUeyIoEsxTQ4lf C+fuE8UEsMLz6nR4B74+uWaDIF8cLY42UQLcmXKJCGlo1n7uaZGlKjbX/o943SswX7hg xyAvfAxzFZMw/tqZ2ZvJju4BWoU6dZWuiqF/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ScWm9DBuKa4tebRUPPKh8vRZLI54WLuIABXNAJrbzR4svr3AFuLQq4iC/htd1jg++k qxPVMb1aAeWCUjEFxMzSezgS3A8+0Z9VhICD/kM2PUFav7KmOFIIH27gjAJzz/sEicmg dUZA8Ngu5noGMagfVUS4VuTzTjbsI1vh9XXZ8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.126.38 with SMTP id a38mr323675bks.195.1304382988750; Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Mon, 2 May 2011 17:36:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: =?UTF-8?B?UmlhY2sgUmFhY3bDtmVqYdee15nXm9ec15DXoNeSJ9ec15U=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to remove KDE and How to install Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 00:36:31 -0000 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Riack Raacv=C3=B6eja=D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7= =9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 wrote: > Hi, > > I installed PC-BSD 8.2 (FreeBSD 8.2) =C2=A0in my laptop, > I would like to know, How to remove KDE >and How to install > Gnome from shell. http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html But since you are using PCBSD look for a Gnome PBI :) http://www.pbidir.com/bt/pbi/132 http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=3D1193 However, you are on your own :( Regards, Antonio > > I hope to receive information from you. > > -- > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Thanks & > Best Regards, > Riack =D7=9E=D7=99=D7=9B=D7=9C=D7=90=D7=A0=D7=92'=D7=9C=D7=95 > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 00:44:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3698FC0C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 00:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8883CAEE; Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p430iR5V003719; Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 02:44:27 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Louis Marrero" Message-Id: <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 00:44:30 -0000 Although others have already given you excellent replies, I would like to add a few comments. On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: > Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to > understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix > terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the > language. You can learn about this terminology, and I can really encourage you to do so, as it is a neccessary means to access the professional parts of Linux and UNIX, and if you want to "be into IT" more deeply, there is no way around it. With those basics, you'll be able to access and under- stand _any_ UNIX(-like) operating system as they share basics and have many things in common. > Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is derived. There are other BSDs. > "shell terminal", A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a command-line processor that you use to issue commands to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") that served the same purpose - communicate with the computer - without being "a real computer". > "nc -u", The netcat utility. On a UNIX system, see "man nc" (local manual page). > etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my > friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u > 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. You "miss" understanding of the terminology, that's nothing bad, as you can easily learn and understand it. > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, In this mentioning, it refers to a family of operating systems. :-) > and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. Correct. There are many Linux (fully correct. GNU/Linux) distributions, as well as different BSDs and UNIXes. > My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. You do NOT have to install it. > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? You don't usually communicate to a web server. A web server delivers web pages. What you mean is a dialog access, usually done by SSH. You can use PuTTY (on your "Windows" laptop) to access a FreeBSD system via SSH. It will show up as a terminal window to you. > I'd be grateful for any information. I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:18:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43511065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F21E8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:18:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p43181Ii045970; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:08:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3qquyF4Ndx2U; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:07:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p4317sic045967; Mon, 2 May 2011 20:07:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:54 -0500 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110401 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 01:18:38 -0000 On 05/02/11 19:44, Polytropon wrote: > Although others have already given you excellent replies, > I would like to add a few comments. > > I have a couple of suggestion that I've not yet seen in the thread ... and kudos to you for a] asking, and nicely done, and b] gathering your courage to give this a try. > On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: >> Although I am familiar with basic computer operation, I've been trying to >> understand a very experienced programmer friend that mixes Linux/Unix >> terminology in his vocabulary under the assumption that everyone knows the >> language. > You can learn about this terminology, and I can really > encourage you to do so, as it is a neccessary means to > access the professional parts of Linux and UNIX, and if > you want to "be into IT" more deeply, there is no way > around it. > > With those basics, you'll be able to access and under- > stand _any_ UNIX(-like) operating system as they share > basics and have many things in common. > All I have here is a "me too". >> Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use >> daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the >> terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", > Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is > derived. There are other BSDs. > > > >> "shell terminal", > A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a > command-line processor that you use to issue commands > to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", > a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") > that served the same purpose - communicate with the > computer - without being "a real computer". > Windows systems also have a command interpreter, though (arguably) it's hardly used and considered arcane by most users. On all the NT and later systems this is "cmd.exe". >> "nc -u", > The netcat utility. On a UNIX system, see "man nc" > (local manual page). > > > >> etc. Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, when my >> friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u >> 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. > You "miss" understanding of the terminology, that's nothing > bad, as you can easily learn and understand it. > > > >> Here are some questions that can help my understanding: >> >> >> >> 1. I know that Windows is an OS, > In this mentioning, it refers to a family of operating systems. :-) > > > >> and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD >> are other Operating System. > Correct. There are many Linux (fully correct. GNU/Linux) > distributions, as well as different BSDs and UNIXes. > > > >> My very basic question is this: Is it even >> possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based >> computer? > That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning > of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. > > You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing > not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured > operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. > You do NOT have to install it. > > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download Sun's Virtual machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe they just released version 4.0.6) and you can set up a FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows machine with no need to add any additional hardware or do any repartitioning of the hard disk. >> 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with >> Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > You don't usually communicate to a web server. A web server > delivers web pages. What you mean is a dialog access, usually > done by SSH. You can use PuTTY (on your "Windows" laptop) to > access a FreeBSD system via SSH. It will show up as a terminal > window to you. > > > >> I'd be grateful for any information. > I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The > FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material > not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If > you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to > determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily > accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded it, and now scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to match all 'Nix gurus. Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) The people on this list know that I'm just a newb with 10 years of FreeBSD under my belt ;-) We look forward to assisting with your further edification :-) Kevin D. Kinsey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 01:55:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12186106566C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDD278FC12 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:55:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28537 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2011 01:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 May 2011 01:55:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=M20YpUGs8mpGD69VBkZQlMFOSh83D1Suha7EDdi8F44Xgl+1KwmXf8MTWyUL8wAVrqAgmMy5x1R4Ypv/x4Eag5GqzQDIJqAj1TpEQK3/ryeKu6tM7K0QwRQ+7VWjiFXB; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QH4pM-0004yf-0h for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 May 2011 19:55:05 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 02 May 2011 19:41:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 19:41:49 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110503014149.GC22414@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 01:55:06 -0000 --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:07:54PM -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > On 05/02/11 19:44, Polytropon wrote: > > > >You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing not common > >to "Windows": This is an installed and configured operating system > >that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. You do NOT have to install > >it. >=20 > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download Sun's Virtual > machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe they just released version > 4.0.6) and you can set up a FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows > machine with no need to add any additional hardware or do any > repartitioning of the hard disk. Actually, that's Oracle's VirtualBox now. For those who may not keep up with such things, Oracle bought Sun and seems intent on pissing off all the users of the late Sun's open source software. So far, I have not seen any issues with VirtualBox on Unix-like systems since Oracle acquired stewardship of it along with everything else Sun had, though. > > > >I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The FreeBSD > >Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material not comparable to > >anything you find in "Windows" land. If you're dealing with IT matter, > >you'll have no problem to determine _what_ to read. Those resources > >can be easily accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > >locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). >=20 > +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded it, and now > scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to match all 'Nix gurus. > Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) The FreeBSD Handbook is easily my favorite BSD Unix book, and my second favorite Linux book, even though it's not technically a Linux book -- it's just that good. Of course, my favorite Linux book is my second favorite BSD Unix book as well -- because it, too, is just that good. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk2/XV0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVO3ACg53PxyERp5PISBGfiLhNEgIkf WiwAmQE0l1QsJCWedaHpX9MGM397LhDW =lL5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qbvjkv9qwOGw/5Fx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 07:46:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C605106567A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:46:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471C58FC1A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B803CCA7; Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p437k4a8001817; Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 09:46:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Kevin Kinsey Message-Id: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:46:07 -0000 On Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:54 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > > On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:47:11 -0400, "Louis Marrero" wrote: > >> Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use > >> daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the > >> terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", > > Berkeley Software Distribution, from which FreeBSD is > > derived. There are other BSDs. > > > > > > > >> "shell terminal", > > A dialog terminal that runs an interactive shell, a > > command-line processor that you use to issue commands > > to the system. The term's origin is the "terminal", > > a stand-alone device (often called "dumb terminal") > > that served the same purpose - communicate with the > > computer - without being "a real computer". > > > > Windows systems also have a command interpreter, I didn't claim they haven't. :-) > though (arguably) it's hardly used and considered > arcane by most users. On all the NT and later systems > this is "cmd.exe". There also is an additional tool called something like "Power shell" (not fully sure, I'm not a "Windows" person) that is more like a UNIX shell than CMD.EXE, which has its origins in the COMMAND.COM of DOS - not the _real_ DOS of course. :-) Using a command line interpreter in "Windows" violates the "concept" of that specific environment, so its hardly known that it even does exist. Also "detaching" control from a "Windows" system isn't something typical (e. g. starting jobs on a computer that you're currently not sitting infront of), but I think it's possible to do so, via some kind of remote access, RDP-based. At least it's comparable. > >> My very basic question is this: Is it even > >> possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > >> computer? > > That's easily possible. You need to do a proper partitioning > > of the hard disk and then install FreeBSD into a free partition. > > > > You can also make use of so-called "Live systems", a thing > > not common to "Windows": This is an installed and configured > > operating system that you boot from a CD, DVD or USB stick. > > You do NOT have to install it. > > > > > > And this is the only *real* interesting input. Download > Sun's Virtual machine software, "VirtualBox" (I believe > they just released version 4.0.6) and you can set up a > FreeBSD machine *inside* your windows machine with > no need to add any additional hardware or do any > repartitioning of the hard disk. Good advice, I didn't think of this primarily, simply because I'm neither a "multi-booter" nor a user of software that runs on any "Windows". Using a virtualized environment gives you the chance NOT to deal with hardware issues in the first place, while keeping your disk content fully intact. System power and disk space shouldn't be any problem today. This reminds me to the following link I have in my "bookmarks box": How about trying VirtualBSD? http://www.virtualbsd.info/ Although the homepage states it's primarily intended for VMWare, it should also work with VirtualBox (see navigation tab on the right). > >> I'd be grateful for any information. > > I may point you to the EXCELLENT documentation online: The > > FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ. Those are QUALITY material > > not comparable to anything you find in "Windows" land. If > > you're dealing with IT matter, you'll have no problem to > > determine _what_ to read. Those resources can be easily > > accessed through the FreeBSD web page, but can also used > > locally (maybe on systems without Internet or web access). > > +1 for the FreeBSD Handbook. Ten years ago, I downloaded > it, and now scores of people in my area think I'm the guru to > match all 'Nix gurus. Of course, they're all Windows users ;-) I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, use "man Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75306106566C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:13:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7058FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so6234564wyf.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QcgJpB9MQMnxzha/buSqhtTzu8oUh3n8cf4qURYqMt0=; b=mSQhGOJGOOLP3rfnNVKPS78eC0uQem7dTMQctqUQQZFzGq/n0uOWwHCD/BeOIYLPf6 GBiDHJvmDdrArql0SHMtt73PzKFuKAm8G0Pw9Nabshhny50Fnc+0YZEloL4b5BBvYxbn khqIe1lFH7LEVAOOmEiEJrJDF8YRu6L7y5nN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lxMP5FmGCl7M/aqWVqMJ6eZhJz91C6A1XRUYCyD0X/e6bO2tG7j9CgRnu5CPYyX0kF u0qFmkZFB4YZZtYgD5Bt57DVG8gtBQVFl7tzUxyWytgrHAnlNRjcSk4QN/GxIDZkmbCx CQQ77pxzJWdtXsYeXNYEnQJgsaS2oOyuPSBtQ= Received: by 10.227.183.76 with SMTP id cf12mr3542559wbb.66.1304410400012; Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-180-231.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.180.231]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w12sm2202801wby.24.2011.05.03.01.13.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 May 2011 01:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DBFB8F1.4050504@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:12:33 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Get the dev.cpu.0.temperature from sysctl(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:13:21 -0000 Hello, I would like to get the dev.cpu.0.temperature node from sysctlbyname(). It seems this node is an opaque type but how to check it and store it to the appropriate variable type ? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 08:35:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B701065673 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nzp@riseup.net) Received: from mx1.riseup.net (mx1.riseup.net [204.13.164.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDE08FC24 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:35:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from spoonbill.riseup.net (spoonbill-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Gandi Standard SSL CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5292618D584; Tue, 3 May 2011 01:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: nzp@spoonbill.riseup.net) with ESMTPSA id E53FB9F6C Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:15:39 +0200 From: Nikola =?utf-8?B?UGF2bG92acSH?= To: Louis Marrero Message-ID: <20110503081539.GA52916@sputnjik.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at mx1 X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 08:35:45 -0000 On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Louis Marrero wrote: > > Here are some questions that can help my understanding: > > > 1. I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD > are other Operating System. My very basic question is this: Is it even > possible to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based > computer? > Others have given you fine answers so I'll just point out something I think might be a good advice for a Unix novice: if you decide to install a Linux try to go with one of the more "traditional" distributions (I've recently read someone call then "time wasters" :)) like Slackware, Arch Linux or similar. The reason is they don't encourage you do do stuff the Windows way (like, for example, Ubuntu does). If you need to learn about Unix you'll learn much faster and better in such an environment. Both Slackware and Arch are BSD styled which is a little unusual in the Linux land. Of course, it's probably better to get the real thing and install one of the BSDs, FreeBSD probably being the sanest choice for a newcomer because of it's outstanding documentation (The FreeBSD Handbook is really a clear step-by-step guide to FreeBSD, and doesn't assume any prior Unix knowledge). > > > 2. Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with > Unix or FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. If so, how is that done? > There is a number of servers that offer free shell accounts (a web server is a different thing) so you can practice and learn even without installing anything but PuTTY (an SSH client for Windows). I've never used any of them so I can't recommend any particular, but you can find a list of such servers on http://shells.red-pill.eu/ (it seems there are a few of them with FreeBSD). -- What is love but a second-hand emotion? -- Tina Turner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 11:32:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E638D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 11:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62928FC19 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 11:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F64399; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 07:32:58 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Polytropon , Louis Marrero Message-ID: <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:33:00 -0000 --As of May 3, 2011 9:46:04 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: > I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. > Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the > FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation > assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, > use "man files, kernel interfaces, library calls and maintenance > procedures. *Everything* is well documented. And you don't > even need Internet access to get that information, as the > manpage doesn't direct you to some arbitrary Wiki on the > web. :-) --As for the rest, it is mine. And, vice-versa, you don't need a FreeBSD box to read them, if you have the web: They are all posted online at for you to read. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:04:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907BC1065672 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from si_soso@yahoo.fr) Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.182.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 059378FC08 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.146.183.180] by nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.166] by tm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 794960.35236.bm@omp1007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17625 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2011 12:04:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.fr; s=s1024; t=1304424249; bh=xhnpdOYJ5YGE+FUQslYlRBXb1SAXxMmZNB90HNA4Ckw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6wO1LfwJHviuJ10OKYJUeU3J6yuvGq2UERM9eS1j67qp1mEhfq7AJQAVFFh3VbLg6kxo3g1VrhJiclROx90/6ILY4FqCkUHzIoo98SHtLvp4jnrwso9rZrKYObLZ0CQWengrCn1T1kt+UEULzFTETGxZdhZmVQJoty537sN9uXk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4+JG9poJS8zfDz/OzpbSjFwFuMpskzsoKabPffj/fAPB29kvMiKOsxxx6w9oG7pJNYXJCfxEeuOy/Wku1EzUEs1o4001eDCWSHy5TofyyqQgIL6NeGucDBgVB6KsxjHCGdIf3HA9i8ndk9/WXhyPnU7VnFsXLXh0Xur1HDxkXKw=; Message-ID: <585012.89739.qm@web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z8a5GigVM1m1ZYuRE3MQZMogOvLK.fsEV_9saOdCChuexx1 9yCOVvz_827ppagNvhIWP7S6KkqPvpblT4.upQ7da2woCBFYum_skTr3kFOR kqcfyaAa92fVcyqupHdpT5is.XMQYBMDBdV7ItrhcomJ_v_068CtcAyNuQXe aQinCxm7ceAQbuJU4VCsGzAYbKBI32A2iHDN8kb3GTzzzbCtVXzb6Kvwi8JS FG279vuIfOjjO_Pa0mjtogSpe9HZ3etxV.lL7I4ChSWwbBum9IbMpXVThpex .GPZjGNAyLWOO66qu00gDLDX82IHkq75u3XrWXEndIHEjJXcKhF5QWMXrkpq Z.i2v.FqNzhKq5n2DkaKEzLuJ8_k- Received: from [193.52.94.5] by web26705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2011 13:04:09 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:04:09 +0100 (BST) From: sofiane chabane To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:32:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: access an extended partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:04:11 -0000 =A0 Good morning, =A0 I have installed FreeBSD in a multiboot way on my PC but till now I can= 't access my extended partition. Indeed, on my PC I have 4 primary partitio= ns that I organized like this: =A0 =0A Primary partition 1 : WinRE of windows vista =0A Primary partition 2 : windows Vista =0A Primary partition 3 : FreeBSD =0A Primary partition 4 that is the extended one contains: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 1 : wind= ows XP =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 2 : a Gn= u/Linux distribution =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A Logical partition 3 : Data So, the problem is that I can't access the extended partion especially the = Data one. This is my first problem. =A0The second one is this:=20 =A0I'd like to change my profil picture (on my logging screen-I'm using KDE= ) and put my personal photo for example; I have tried but kdbm inducates th= at it 's impossible to do it. =A0These are the problems I've encountered, so I hope I were concise. =A0Thank you very much for being so kind and help me to solve these problem= s. =A0=0A Best Regards =A0=20 =0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 12:37:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB57106566B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:37:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp11.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C518FC18 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2011 08:37:03 -0400 Received: from smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.104]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.2.3-GA) with ESMTP id BBD27916; Tue, 3 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp04.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19903.63213.569627.11053@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 08:37:01 -0400 To: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> <17F138516AEC9FE14F4A4B1A@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:37:03 -0000 Daniel Staal writes: > > I would like to add the excellent manpages of the system. > > Unlike many Linusi, those manpages are kept current by the > > FreeBSD operating system developers and their documentation > > assistants. So whenever you're not fully sure about something, > > use "man > files, kernel interfaces, library calls and maintenance > > procedures. *Everything* is well documented. And you don't > > even need Internet access to get that information, as the > > manpage doesn't direct you to some arbitrary Wiki on the > > web. :-) > > And, vice-versa, you don't need a FreeBSD box to read them, if > you have the web: They are all posted online at > for you to read. It is worth noting there are reference works - intended for those who already know something about a topic/program - not tutorials intended to teach concepts and terminology on how to do a specific task. At this point I usually recommend the most recent edition of _/The Unix System Administration Handbook/_. It is well-written; it covers flavors other than FreeBSD; and it goes into enough of the conceptual infrastructure to be very useful in diagnosing some kinds of breakage. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:34:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CD21065679 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45BD8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:34:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.1.108] (c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.255.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p43EMmJ7009936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:22:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:22:45 -0400 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; helo=[192.168.1.108] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 68.40.255.141; Sender-helo: [192.168.1.108]; ) Subject: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:34:16 -0000 Everyone, I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive information. I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcing any web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more secure than another or if they are close to the same. I would have initially thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl can use AES-256, I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity for little extra security. Thanks in advance Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 14:57:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F7D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@mxcrypt.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BF18FC12 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so167053wwc.31 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.239.71 with SMTP id b49mr6286927wer.107.1304434651497; Tue, 03 May 2011 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.70.21 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> References: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:57:01 -0400 Message-ID: To: Mark Moellering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:57:33 -0000 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Mark Moellering wrote: > Everyone, > I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive > information. =C2=A0I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcin= g any > web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. > I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more secur= e > than another or if they are close to the same. =C2=A0I would have initial= ly > thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl can use AES-2= 56, > I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity for little extra > security. > > Thanks in advance > > Mark Moellering I don't think there is any extra security in tunneling an HTTP connection over SSH. Use authentication is a different matter, but the encryption algorithms are the same. Most web servers have an option of configuring what ciphers are allowed (same as OpenSSH, by the way), so you can easily restrict HTTPS connections to just AES-256 or any other cipher you prefer. The bigger issue will be how to prevent MITM attacks. With SSH, you have to make sure that the clients have the correct public key ahead of time or provide a way to verify the key during the first connection. With HTTPS you can get a certificate from an existing CA, which allows clients to verify the server identity without any extra work on your part. As an alternative, you can create your own CA and distribute the public key to the clients, which is pretty similar to SSH, except that it's much easier to change the server certificate later on. - Max From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 15:01:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7966A1065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A168FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 15:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10158367; Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:32 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10158365 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4DC018C5.6000102@radel.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 11:01:25 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:01:33 -0000 On 5/3/11 10:22 AM, Mark Moellering wrote: > > Everyone, > I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive > information. I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcing any > web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. > I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more > secure than another or if they are close to the same. I would have > initially thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl > can use AES-256, I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity > for little extra security. > > Thanks in advance > > Mark Moellering I'd say that that's a really hard problem to answer definitively, but my gut reaction is that the less complex solution is less likely to involve configuration screw-ups which compromise security. Particularly if other administrators are or will be involved, that which is too clever just begs for innocent, even if clueless, changes that compromise assumptions upon which the security depends. In any case, I'd worry more about how I handle user authentication and authorization than squeezing the last little drop of warm fuzzies out of the encryption setup. To the extent that if you already have a fully trusted infrastructure in place for ssh keys, you might want to consider using ssh tunnels for that reason alone. Or, to put it another way, if your security is going to fall, it's much more likely that it's going to involve a poor configuration choice, a user that screws up big time, or a "back door" to the data, than a successful "technical" attack against TSL or SSH. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 16:34:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352651065672 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 16:34:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy4-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F143B8FC14 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 16:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10345 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2011 16:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 3 May 2011 16:34:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=A/tkLcKcBti9M1eYpenFjOmvkVrlXl2PRHEchnKD9TtXTbfISDyVbEfrq8w3bl1B8ZbKcTUf+wSo9gJsrHmjDE/OglwK/T+9oqIp66WseyUHkxmunHj0iX0VKkcA7uFN; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHIYX-0003rZ-6l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:34:38 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 03 May 2011 10:21:21 -0600 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:21:21 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110503162121.GH25377@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> <20110503024427.2c0ace89.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DBF556A.1010507@daleco.biz> <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110503094604.efec8f3b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: For My Edification X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 16:34:39 -0000 --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:46:04AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: >=20 > There also is an additional tool called something like "Power shell" > (not fully sure, I'm not a "Windows" person) that is more like a UNIX > shell than CMD.EXE, which has its origins in the COMMAND.COM of DOS - > not the _real_ DOS of course. :-) It's *not* really much like a Unix shell, actually. For instance, it doesn't have the Unix pipeline (which cmd.exe *does* have). Instead, it assumes everything you'll be passing around in it is basically a serialized object in the tradition of the .NET framework. It is, in short, more of a glue code development tool for .NET developers than a proper command shell. You can abuse it as a command shell if you want to, but in my experience the REPL for the R6RS (Scheme) implementation called Ypsilon serves as a better command shell than PowerShell. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3AK4EACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVXcACfZwW/QEBQFKfeJ42WSq3Ebqdc 2XgAoNhsecf8ylJ+wb5dKvMFMQ6L2PJL =0SLM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Yia77v5a8fyVHJSl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:16:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB411065673 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A64A8FC1B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1017545D7B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 042C75C1D for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:37 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110503124037.a4469206.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: /etc/newsyslog.conf and denyhosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:16:19 -0000 What is the correct way to rotate denyhosts log files? In /etc/newsyslog.conf I have: /var/log/denyhosts 644 12 * $M1D0 JC /var/run/denyhosts.pid However, denyhosts does not log in the new file. -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:31:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1131065677 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F888FC1A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F12206074C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iJF0AJ9WDont for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3128D2057708 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C24512EF; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vQhWfVl+ooDx; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id D34B25133D; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 10:12:48 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110503171248.GB30552@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC00FB5.7080306@msen.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/CURRENT (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: OT: Security question (openssl vs openssh) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:31:57 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2011, Mark Moellering wrote: > Everyone, > I am looking into setting up a webserver to hold some very sensitive > information. I am trying to figure out which is more secure, forcing > any web connections to be done using an ssh tunnel or forcing ssl. > I have not been able to figure out if one is definitively much more > secure than another or if they are close to the same. I would have > initially thought the ssh tunnel was more secure but knowing that ssl > can use AES-256, I am now wondering if that isn't adding a complexity > for little extra security. Our solution for critical services like this is to run the service only on a private LAN segment which is available from the outside world only through an OpenVPN connection. The OpenVPN connection requires unique keys for each client which are easily revoked if a laptop is lost or stolen or on employee termination. It also isolates the web service from other external attacks via insecure PHP scripts and such. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees. -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 17:34:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB6106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C688FC1C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so357556fxm.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:34:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nqOaTg05q77NNH5wqu9bmfgqLRYxlQfiTN2zNYTvCx0=; b=Sy1YMB3O/wxTbeNO7DzwF6h6UxKA1aRdGTwbyI88vWPJyn33NRIFteDIA+fwTjILiW HRR9wbfNR5/ya4K+3RtQ83LQM79T3jhfs/x3jleMVSkUdlLotWj+lDDlmmse7ou6dGRF bV0gwr0jx9GWbJL4aq7M3nhFxz+2mOBW4WaQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P+JF6f7fhXzR6vAj1hP+kfrapztrEq6dOt9XYlVInfH0K9dxd4Q9BgMy2RTrPcOh0J SnKoBdwmU9RPwnIgd4/u24+FeqqkZ9NKlSyvNEpDr7NgET/tN2LzMrPMHgWKgzn5Repc /csJJS8r6/nUhIPC/2RYaYFwa9e8SqaNl2K+Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.55.78 with SMTP id t14mr134152fag.43.1304444068791; Tue, 03 May 2011 10:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.5 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 10:34:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000001cc091a$e041f380$a0c5da80$@com> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Chris Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Louis Marrero , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unix basics (was Re: For My Edification) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:34:30 -0000 On 2 May 2011 19:37, Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 2 May 2011, Louis Marrero wrote: >> Being familiar only with general knowledge on the Windows XP that I use >> daily, I've gone on the web to find out more information on some of the >> terms used by this programmer, such as "BSD", "shell terminal", "nc -u", >> etc. =A0Since my friend knows that my computer is strictly MS Windows, w= hen my >> friend writes down something like "In a shell terminal type nc -u >> 10.101.97.200 5555." it makes me wonder what I'm missing. > > When he says "shell terminal", think "command prompt". nc is netcat, but = I > didn't know Windows had that. In your friend's defense, I use Windows eve= ry > day (at work) and I can't always remember what things are called. Especia= lly > since MS changes terminology every now and then, evidently just for the h= ell > of it. > >> 1. =A0I know that Windows is an OS, and Linux/Unix as well as FreeBSD ar= e >> other Operating System. =A0My very basic question is this: Is it even po= ssible >> to install a second OS, like FreeBSD on an existing Windows-based comput= er? > > Yes. You can either set it up for dual boot - either by adding a second h= ard > drive, or by partitioning your existing drive if there's space - or you c= an > run another OS within a virtual machine of some sort. The latter would ne= ed > a pretty fast machine if the guest OS is to have decent performance. > > Having said that, I found it easier to get started using an old PC that w= as > too slow to run a modern Windows, but perfectly fine for a GUI-free BSD. = I'm > typing this on an old Dell that I bought on ebay. > Another possibility is to install cygwin ( http://www.cygwin.com/ ) which will give you a rather goodly number of unix/gnu programs, though they have the unfortunate habit of defaulting to bash, and if you install a compiler and some basic build tools a nigh-unto infinite number of programs become available. That said, buying an older, cheap machine to install FreeBSD on is probably the easiest. And who doesn't enjoy buying more stuff? >> 2. =A0Is it possible to link my Windows laptop to a web server with Unix= or >> FreeBSD and exercise Unix/Linux commands. =A0If so, how is that done? > > The server's admin would have to give you a shell account. Most commercia= l > ISPs won't do that, but maybe your friend will. > With PuTTY, you can connect to any unix/linux/bsd machine with sshd enabled (though you need an account on that machine to actually log in). ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ ) X forwarding onto a windows machine ( http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html ) may be best reserved for the 201 course. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 18:33:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05FE1065678 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 18:33:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC338FC0C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 18:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0324140B86; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 294615C85; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:32:44 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <20110503143244.81861e46.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <201105031803.p43I3Px8067589@mail.r-bonomi.com> References: <20110503124037.a4469206.web@3dresearch.com> <201105031803.p43I3Px8067589@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/newsyslog.conf and denyhosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 18:33:04 -0000 On Tue, 3 May 2011 13:03:25 -0500 (CDT) Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 3 12:17:12 2011 > > Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:40:37 -0400 > > From: Janos Dohanics > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: /etc/newsyslog.conf and denyhosts > > > > What is the correct way to rotate denyhosts log files? > > > > In /etc/newsyslog.conf I have: > > > > /var/log/denyhosts 644 12 * > > $M1D0 JC /var/run/denyhosts.pid > > > > However, denyhosts does not log in the new file. > > Denyhosts has to be informed that the logfile has changed, so that it > can close and re-open the logfile. It may be possible by sending it > a 'signal', or you may have to kill/restart it. See the > documentation for denyhosts. > > Newsyslog itself does _not_ notify/restart any daemons you have to > do this yourself. Thank you, I'll just set up a cron job to restart it -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:02:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C901065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.19.172.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9948FC08 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from caduceus.wingfoot.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA9039E0CA; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:42:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by caduceus.wingfoot.org (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id Ze3rr3nEDFAX; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Sandal.local (ool-45732cf6.dyn.optonline.net [69.115.44.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F19F539E0C7; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DC04C9E.7050802@wingfoot.org> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 14:42:38 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Janos Dohanics References: <20110503124037.a4469206.web@3dresearch.com> <201105031803.p43I3Px8067589@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20110503143244.81861e46.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <20110503143244.81861e46.web@3dresearch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Bonomi Subject: Re: /etc/newsyslog.conf and denyhosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:02:40 -0000 On 5/3/11 2:32 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: >> Denyhosts has to be informed that the logfile has changed, so that >> it can close and re-open the logfile. It may be possible by >> sending it a 'signal', or you may have to kill/restart it. See >> the documentation for denyhosts. >> >> Newsyslog itself does _not_ notify/restart any daemons you have >> to do this yourself. >From the man page for newsyslog.conf: path_to_pid_file This optional field specifies the file name containing a daemon's process ID or to find a group process ID if the U flag was speci- fied. If this field is present, a signal_number is sent the process ID contained in this file. If this field is not present, then a SIGHUP signal will be sent to syslogd(8), unless the N flag has been specified. This field must start with `/' in order to be recognized properly. signal_number This optional field specifies the signal number that will be sent to the daemon process (or to all processes in a process group, if the U flag was specified). If this field is not present, then a SIGHUP signal will be sent. --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:07:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CEA106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:07:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CF68FC14 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so424114wwc.31 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=i6pAeB4PS9TfYQEdgmu7Oa+2m+6AeTjyR9XQoOcOxcE=; b=mY2kOeZSOfC2U+pEQ0CX8JX5pFOcxhTQu51Un3TMY6b1QyvQ+Mi+zdAwd84TE4poMH fb3cFyk7alcRSrmWFNIaq5zzNWzLFWyB45t5qfSobVTTC9ZSw1V8yTwjYu+nYXEED/wx PzBveGeQMqPeGWw4szBYX3I0MhU07fB/2Hdoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=CM4yhsZ69aUA0vQESLvg/OXt/iVFKs2OsRz5QtlwHds1HsmtN+ElcUulTMor3DLMiE XklVJ2AWIDuAF2KfLlHLo+RhXArMEh8riP8UU66xwpFl1v0MaEzuCSRqpwxDaX6lKIdW xCHt938QtAkyOMKsQzO91gKs0G5eIeugS1pio= Received: by 10.216.236.157 with SMTP id w29mr4417470weq.18.1304449621074; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.243.143 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 20:06:31 +0100 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Enabling composite-out in a video card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:07:02 -0000 OK, so in what can only be described as a ridiculous shot in the dark... I've got my Macbook running as a server under my TV, and I was trying to connect the video-out to the TV. However... my mini-DVI-VGA plugged into the VGA-composite adaptor isn't working (surprise surprise) Is there a command can put in to force TV-out through VGA (through DVI?)? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:34:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B4F1065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: from nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7534B8FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 19:21:34 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 19:21:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 May 2011 19:21:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 786787.61272.bm@omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 68826 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2011 19:21:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1304450494; bh=N5y5yuBVuazMxu9U1SxeZNTPDmwKZuUcIzRRkp/aVfw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EOq22n/XjmRYC0/yxxA3A9d32RFxRVxpBaTmdtIwFVopP+9iZbHkw+97NwPQv5ZF76I4K1qdmJn5zotrpzYiPGH5K3CD5+gnlrJ/ccg16mJgUNJ7T2sfVfYA5zIK7y+hWg2KiGExKIixsXt0fp2iMy9ctCQpCLnbsA4oRL5Rqic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zuw3A0MZZ4x/fe9TFoSd9PKRaUscyXGflaIqRllj9O5LO26D8PSLx5c9MBqwMYJHqtwcDsgvCfyB+YuKGR/tMQ5TPpn20bLiSc4+oApwCvJtUfsBnrAgJ74DvocqNDbr5t2+HUTFiJgKeAPnqtIMN65iXeEiXwLTDcZ6Lj3goWA=; Message-ID: <314397.67698.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NEgvkocVM1n8eQlRYHWJCKjlOTqLo8O5Cz4sU9if74pmjL3 HVcT9zKvPrJ.22qJD14wZCyH6i3dBn6kvXUDB8Al77VWnuLIyKOGxequWx9p Rol61IrmdfVPGEg.fu3VPWbtOE.7jm6.NwgeBDKwCwyc40wr1ampT3gZ5BsE xU3noPe1eme64zYFFVLE.qc0TNcKHCyGiun8ZW0HLOFS4xcVc4Zc5Ft0H6pP SuBKEuZtTUtTdiEvCTCAl7iUHnBVHa1OQOXUIu0w7nL5b47YtdwsJLJoh3Yo IjafwhG5MVILGZgZKkoyKrFlqlv1oLWxAuVIKO5e9pTcr.x24gC2ZRRNutlK bWLtD70V9YomC8J.wg6bNAv_WkRcOa_wwlBI179pcFcpIx7Ngt9cUW4OyyUu bh0MngfNPKE0HNw-- Received: from [75.41.234.85] by web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:21:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 12:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark To: utisoft@gmail.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: help help Subject: Re: Enabling composite-out in a video card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:34:34 -0000 > From: Chris Rees > Subject: Enabling composite-out in a video card. > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 2:06 PM > OK, so in what can only be described > as a ridiculous shot in the dark... > > I've got my Macbook running as a server under my TV, and I > was trying > to connect the video-out to the TV. > > However... my mini-DVI-VGA plugged into the VGA-composite > adaptor > isn't working (surprise surprise) > > Is there a command can put in to force TV-out through VGA > (through DVI?)? > > Chris read the man page for the Xorg driver, you may need to enable it in the xorg.conf. I guess you are running freeBSD??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:35:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC5F106568D for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geoff@apro.com.au) Received: from mail.ricksure.com.au (mail.ricksure.com.au [203.98.89.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7178FC24 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 171.78.233.220.static.exetel.com.au [220.233.78.171] by mail.ricksure.com.au with SMTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 05:19:53 +1000 From: Geoff Roberts Organization: Australian Projects To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 05:19:56 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-31-generic; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> X-Declude-Sender: geoff@apro.com.au [220.233.78.171] X-Declude-Spoolname: 39770192.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.6.35 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm" X-Declude-Scan: Outgoing Score [0] at 05:19:55 on 04 May 2011 X-Declude-Tests: Whitelisted X-Country-Chain: X-Declude-Code: 0 X-Declude-Recipcount: 1 Organization: Declude, Inc. X-Helo: ubuntutest-01.localnet X-RevDNS: Subject: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: geoff@apro.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:35:17 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to join two sites with the same subnet across a VPN? I have two sites that have the same subnet/mask. I need these two separated networks to behave as one across a VPN. All configuration examples I've come across so far assume that each site will have a different subnet. Eg, one site with 192.168.1.0/24 the other with 192.168.2.0/24 I control the firewalls at each end. One will be a pfsense firewall, the other an existing FreeBSD 7.4 system. For example I would want to be able to do the following: Site A Site B ------ ------ Firewall A 10.1.1.3 --------- Firewall B 10.1.1.4 | | Subnet: 192.168.20.0/24 Subnet: 192.168.20.0/24 Happy to use either IPSec or OpenVPN to actually encrypt the traffic. Kind regards, Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:40:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897971065674 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC658FC15 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so438162wyf.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ccP9RmqF7BzxnFFvU4nI4hkfGZDOWXtW3B3PtTyPcCE=; b=Sdf285PyOuVoAcXnvaqEPOsMEBnONnQR7reGYDxYkO3fGjAyEGoIf4SkXihW+8y6X+ td6P0SAKiOpusVgzjBvpMWwCxIQ4Uz6wCMuymDMXGVZlKI0Ro3E+hBnpuo7s7JS/dwBd f+AYVfeQ4NOksXa2kmbzjotX4K9YXzdmFgiWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=A75+C2xzfK7LEr9Rmazq9C+XSHeS5CkQ9d2Dtxq2hcf+Jbk+WRqh3XxCkhh25/676o GsbDHDggLZYW4KNroC31F04E4VfgzOTSYmozg88IKJRWh0KXx1Gf7GsZ46TfRDgpPJLG rZlbfMFl0ha4DWhy/MgTfARgnu/ldHz0AHSJQ= Received: by 10.216.142.224 with SMTP id i74mr273019wej.3.1304451608075; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.243.143 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:39:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <314397.67698.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <314397.67698.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 20:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: To: Mark Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: help help Subject: Re: Enabling composite-out in a video card. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:40:10 -0000 On 3 May 2011 20:21, Mark wrote: > >> From: Chris Rees >> Subject: Enabling composite-out in a video card. >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 2:06 PM >> OK, so in what can only be described >> as a ridiculous shot in the dark... >> >> I've got my Macbook running as a server under my TV, and I >> was trying >> to connect the video-out to the TV. >> >> However... my mini-DVI-VGA plugged into the VGA-composite >> adaptor >> isn't working (surprise surprise) >> >> Is there a command can put in to force TV-out through VGA >> (through DVI?)? >> >> Chris > > read the man page for the Xorg driver, you may need to enable it in the xorg.conf. D'oh, thanks! > I guess you are running freeBSD??? Oh dear, I must have looked really clueless. Yes I am! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:40:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40BE1065675 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6388FC2C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p43JeAtZ092580; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:40:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BB2EBA96; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:40:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 21:40:10 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Demelier Message-ID: <20110503194009.GA63997@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4DBFB8F1.4050504@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DBFB8F1.4050504@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get the dev.cpu.0.temperature from sysctl(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:40:42 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 10:12:33AM +0200, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I would like to get the dev.cpu.0.temperature node from sysctlbyname().= =20 > It seems this node is an opaque type but how to check it and store it to= =20 > the appropriate variable type ? The best way to determine this is to read the source. I did that some time = ago to fix the temperature display in sysutils/conky.=20 The sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature returns an integer, see /sys/dev/coretemp/coretemp.c (look for the string "temperature"), and you'l= l see: /* * Add the "temperature" MIB to dev.cpu.N. */ sc->sc_oid =3D SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(device_get_sysctl_ctx(pdev), SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(pdev)), OID_AUTO, "temperature", CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, dev, 0, coretemp_get_temp_sysctl, "IK", "Current temperature"); If you look at the definition of coretemp_get_temp_sysctl in the same file: coretemp_get_temp_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS) { device_t dev =3D (device_t) arg1; int temp; temp =3D coretemp_get_temp(dev) * 10 + TZ_ZEROC; return (sysctl_handle_int(oidp, &temp, 0, req)); } So the returned value is an 'int'. Note that TZ_ZEROC is #defined as 2732 at the beginning of the file. The returned value is therefore the temperature in Kelvin times ten. On my machine, it gives e.g.: sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature dev.cpu.0.temperature: 46.0C If we check the 'raw' return value; sysctl -b dev.cpu.0.temperature|hd 00000000 78 0c 00 00 |x...| 00000004 Running this value with the abovementioned algorithm in reverse through a calculator, we get (0x0c78-2732)/10 =3D 46=B0C Hope this helps. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3AWhkACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXBXwCfXnJvgc2pCSB7jcWcdQeL1e3b A28An0As50e65UllnA4L7kahWzBpzwYb =0TmN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:44:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0CB106566B for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282178FC1E for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so490957iwn.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:44:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BmEy63OZ9VXL4/3i+3gxC/hWQiagArAheSMw3nxBgYk=; b=TPXtAQaD+4u+30vpQ+1GCUDnJoJz8ESxI2+HP4CbmfeAUZxqpo8EB1qP28q7902C6k 6tj3OJwyJibProbYlrodyoohkEthMBKOoicBZF1XzT0dXinDB3zp4MPZUpVc8fOyVumJ L9XXKmnsGH3pwtmHLjHeLQgwTo/Ar+YadrYRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Sh/5rok1INefN8ApUOXf1TBDhSdm3xG2RL6sWZ7QEEVdMJMFQFpQpvp0gqjaXRoPnh 1qQsVfwo/YTql5wE+qZAOdEniXeIhwev2pBd5ZUieTTIvW0Pg0DLVF4N8n4kL41r4IUI EOOaLPYMBkVnX9h1N5cVqlGdaOdlXvEhdmq/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.91.139 with SMTP id p11mr341784icm.402.1304451843437; Tue, 03 May 2011 12:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.195 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:44:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: geoff@apro.com.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:44:04 -0000 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 15:19, Geoff Roberts wrote: > Is it possible to join two sites with the same subnet across a VPN? Yes. > I have two sites that have the same subnet/mask. > > I need these two separated networks to behave as one across a VPN. That's understandable. You may want to consider breaking the /24 into two /25s, one at each site, and routing the connection instead but that's not necessary and you can indeed use a bridge with few issues. > Happy to use either IPSec or OpenVPN to actually encrypt the traffic. We've done it as a demo of what you can do with OpenVPN, it's trivial once you get some configuration issues straight in your head (or that's how it worked for me). To bridge in OpenVPN, take a look at: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/76-ethernet-bridging.html kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 20:12:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A921D106564A for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 20:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343BB8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 20:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so465294wyf.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 13:12:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xp8m0dGe70zS7znAvD1n1EQzoB7jUHgQv5y9n1qLXr8=; b=lA/kccrh0csh1MJwxFh8VAljaq86jvgb3ns9+7Tgtt0ZI1tBzbPYYxs0RBUvL+EQ8W keUAiDL47VhxK1GgZQY4BaJCyFKYPrBdHbGtvnrmAiubeuCArYkTSKP3ewwvcd+XvH57 K5uV9iDE4HCsibcghVXb0/Q8mCC5TMfYkljOI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TIL5rO1nH9cCenjWsG9IWxhmnNQk1702cMl/HXIE56GYjEODpmEyT0vVGD5B9MI/ne fVgpy3/VNJhIK/PI47dS6+9GOHunb5rDuLKGtuN3epqrAfIV4fKMPLLHZXo2TFP8HQS8 6WyPRfUoAxy3PrhkiVr2JXWplQNCFJHskXtqQ= Received: by 10.227.110.37 with SMTP id l37mr221143wbp.114.1304453553019; Tue, 03 May 2011 13:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm273059wbb.14.2011.05.03.13.12.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 May 2011 13:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC06181.1070500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 22:11:45 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <4DBFB8F1.4050504@gmail.com> <20110503194009.GA63997@slackbox.erewhon.net> In-Reply-To: <20110503194009.GA63997@slackbox.erewhon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Get the dev.cpu.0.temperature from sysctl(3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 20:12:34 -0000 On 03/05/2011 21:40, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 10:12:33AM +0200, David Demelier wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I would like to get the dev.cpu.0.temperature node from sysctlbyname(). >> It seems this node is an opaque type but how to check it and store it to >> the appropriate variable type ? > > The best way to determine this is to read the source. I did that some time ago > to fix the temperature display in sysutils/conky. > > The sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature returns an integer, see > /sys/dev/coretemp/coretemp.c (look for the string "temperature"), and you'll see: > > /* > * Add the "temperature" MIB to dev.cpu.N. > */ > sc->sc_oid = SYSCTL_ADD_PROC(device_get_sysctl_ctx(pdev), > SYSCTL_CHILDREN(device_get_sysctl_tree(pdev)), > OID_AUTO, "temperature", > CTLTYPE_INT | CTLFLAG_RD, > dev, 0, coretemp_get_temp_sysctl, "IK", > "Current temperature"); > > If you look at the definition of coretemp_get_temp_sysctl in the same file: > > coretemp_get_temp_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS) > { > device_t dev = (device_t) arg1; > int temp; > > temp = coretemp_get_temp(dev) * 10 + TZ_ZEROC; > > return (sysctl_handle_int(oidp,&temp, 0, req)); > } > > So the returned value is an 'int'. Note that TZ_ZEROC is #defined as 2732 at > the beginning of the file. The returned value is therefore the temperature > in Kelvin times ten. > > On my machine, it gives e.g.: > > sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 46.0C > > If we check the 'raw' return value; > > sysctl -b dev.cpu.0.temperature|hd > 00000000 78 0c 00 00 |x...| > 00000004 > > Running this value with the abovementioned algorithm in reverse through a > calculator, we get > > (0x0c78-2732)/10 = 46°C > > Hope this helps. > > > Roland Thanks a lot! I had a look into the src and I saw the format "IK" used to register the sysctl node but I was also surprised that "IK" was not defined in man sysctl(9) But I finally understood that K should means Kelvin :) Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 19:30:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F371065670 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maseda@stanford.edu) Received: from smtp.stanford.edu (smtp3.Stanford.EDU [171.67.219.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F9D8FC08 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.stanford.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 46A65D8261 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [171.65.32.152] (bmir-msob-x237-2.Stanford.EDU [171.65.32.152]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: maseda) by smtp.stanford.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28DD6D8031 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 12:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 12:11:07 -0700 From: Mike Seda User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 May 2011 21:10:55 +0000 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 19:30:27 -0000 Hi All, When will FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE be available? I remember reading that it would be ready in May 2011. I just wanted to see if it was on schedule or not. Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:16:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2F3106566C for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757458FC13 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so542277fxm.13 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x6fmy/di1RhkScIjAboXEebppyqnEYqwLuXawEer/Eg=; b=OV3a9Ma4Py5NwbtRZE8Gc+7eUEr35BZ8y69CkVztJRy87+i91XbwhKRdbcnETo64Wc jb7Qu90XQSIQ2WPTSCcPycONwh1H/78CCjPvAwR96hXGuz8YQD3f78pUlGpAdahd9aJZ SuGDbbxI+Lc+6XanwpUJLIEcB1aQhSMAO13xQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=t/Xzd/gcNNuALx6Tm71ZeetXUCgMJ/962gwb4ViwMP0TxdZ6sNaI0yAtJrjtrDp3K9 kyctkiSo+ysf7WUH+ZfnwpaKWRoLXDIagHN6eROstmppIMkO8POzhn70a+8S5hvqUxbI 95vox5L3RJzfdkCjxk0TXRrM2cg/LF80J57jY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.97.219 with SMTP id m27mr361448fan.81.1304457417497; Tue, 03 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.5 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 14:16:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> References: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Mike Seda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 21:16:58 -0000 On 3 May 2011 15:11, Mike Seda wrote: > Hi All, > When will FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE be available? > > I remember reading that it would be ready in May 2011. I just wanted to see > if it was on schedule or not. > Dr. Who has been running it for two regenerations already. Get with the program, Nyssa! -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 3 21:36:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FBD1065674 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B464D8FC16 for ; Tue, 3 May 2011 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p43LXOTr091088; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:33:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p43LXNa6091087; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:33:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:33:23 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mike Seda Message-ID: <20110503213323.GA91026@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 21:36:10 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 12:11:07PM -0700, Mike Seda wrote: > Hi All, > When will FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE be available? > > I remember reading that it would be ready in May 2011. I just wanted to > see if it was on schedule or not. I don't remember seeing that. Anyway, go to the FreeBSD Release Engineering web site for information. http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html ////jerry > > Thanks, > Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:43:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA31B1065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linuxtux37@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23188FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so441441pxi.35 for ; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=VpkPFMozaI8z3/wPi6tWJ99UllT8X2ILlKELRTrDv3E=; b=I5yz9gml8jE3zBxgrIpd9WtwNjoBs1ICV6bfyuzgu66YpjzrYNwcnGflhQG5VswEVn e+YDw922s9k0Lx7bKG5gGl7RQuZpalXINDoezGBmoklknkBlxwh2Fdgn0wrQ7lzik7hb gPwtSo/uKC1ZPWwtABUVEPKhnk9wYgORlf1g0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=jgczDASSAUUFKmeUpbp+ZZnbzB2tToaQiZeKOmMyHG9bm1uQ1QZyeIhvjRhCWTPy/i upRdtHry+lSK9vsowTLlEMaUzdPBiAg04vfMOs4ndzj7gY3aVv2uiFKi1hXWWf6T+SLb ZCpf2NR2T9/mKYO6xQs1591WhrfCW+pjkQUJ0= Received: by 10.142.154.20 with SMTP id b20mr249052wfe.371.1304469780204; Tue, 03 May 2011 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.223.17 with HTTP; Tue, 3 May 2011 17:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexander Lardner Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:42:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to delete a line from setenv? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 00:43:00 -0000 Hi list, This is a very basic question, but how do I delete a value from setenv? I screwed up when changing a few things...don't ask. Thanks for any help! -Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:46:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708791065678 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201F68FC16 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:46:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p440k5jt001990; Tue, 3 May 2011 19:46:05 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.121]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Tue, 03 May 2011 19:46:08 -0500 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.135]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 May 2011 19:46:04 -0500 Received: from dtwin ([10.132.254.136]) by SBHFISLTCGW07.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 3 May 2011 19:46:03 -0500 From: "Devin Teske" To: "'Alexander Lardner'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:45:13 -0700 Organization: Vicor, Inc. Message-ID: <006901cc09f4$87bcf680$9736e380$@vicor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHW+uFDknJF6NQ1XpeMKeJkmp0OgZRl8znA Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2011 00:46:04.0005 (UTC) FILETIME=[A57DB150:01CC09F4] Cc: Subject: RE: How to delete a line from setenv? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 00:46:06 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Lardner > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:43 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: How to delete a line from setenv? > > Hi list, > This is a very basic question, but how do I delete a value from setenv? I screwed > up when changing a few things...don't ask. Thanks for any help! unsetenv -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 00:48:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D369106566C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B5F8FC14 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B04F52B; Tue, 3 May 2011 20:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 20:48:55 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: Jerry McAllister , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5E9EADE0E5A1B6C0E1B3D061@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <20110503213323.GA91026@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> <20110503213323.GA91026@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 00:48:56 -0000 --As of May 3, 2011 5:33:23 PM -0400, Jerry McAllister is alleged to have said: > I don't remember seeing that. > Anyway, go to the FreeBSD Release Engineering web site for information. > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html --As for the rest, it is mine. While that *should* be good advice, the most current 'upcoming releases' it lists are 8.2 and 7.4, both released a couple of months ago now. (Which it does say, at least.) So it's really fairly useless at the moment. Basically, as far as I can tell, 9 and/or 8.3 will come out when they come out. No sooner and no later. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 05:28:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD380106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 05:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC518FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 05:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE01AE6288; Wed, 4 May 2011 06:28:40 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=kMbnRp5y7Of8 OKDIvJHBG+SIB2Y=; b=V9KR/hM56qLr9bVeQw7vmmGRdj1jaZNj0PrynM1TkNPZ b+Vx3Af/FDAhjKwF5iJCfuut7kuDmWKNMjEUqx09IJNyDRPlIkrdUiadhH9X7Ms6 bTeBJxVoTEZl2a5HDuLanIFFXMLaY3BB60kjYqjj2lNMn++SIEYmaFmIC8tBj0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=MAENA+ rb0GmFgZpEtBupSbYSMlWJj75+y5jShsES21I8Pi+6TiLNfIxAUVJHZVGR0P3WRz gWCXtWlzLlwqu6Ytwmjkexh6DhuyBPXkxLSo96PBXNWRn4uT4PpKIRGgFllJaylY tIzp1lVZkCWB2StQXmaRd1K7fZGxBScBtNTI4= Received: from unknown (188-222-18-231.zone13.bethere.co.uk [188.222.18.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 751F3E6287; Wed, 4 May 2011 06:28:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:28:39 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110504062839.00003ed9@unknown> In-Reply-To: <5E9EADE0E5A1B6C0E1B3D061@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> <20110503213323.GA91026@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <5E9EADE0E5A1B6C0E1B3D061@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8cvs47 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry McAllister , DStaal@usa.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 05:28:42 -0000 On Tue, 03 May 2011 20:48:55 -0400 Daniel Staal wrote: > Basically, as far as I can tell, 9 and/or 8.3 will come out when they > come out. No sooner and no later. I think the plan for 9.0 is some time this summer. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:25:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD8D1065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD8C8FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7so388453ywf.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mJR/AFtMFJtpGJ3B2F/PPKgw9ti4p4dzeqFGU0mglws=; b=NBCbJhXbYjZxNuVIY+/BRnXMAXvv3adrY7RkRlYSh8jKiHgJNQEolo60SUpmWKs12F TAK9dsw6p+ySVM5xN/Yk38a5ZY8C4uj3ygAu7Yd5mglSd25eQQ3e6sk4GjEm4iX3KxzK bhYB3OTaMg8QL1KI8YghCo+/c5mRhXkXnqgGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YrSXM9SauInWPNAX4JLO6jnqDg2QuDkmu5C5ms8MtcnqLTFir4iffYEcjMUOpUvTiu X4eAjNKH8OeB6B539TlqtEznlI7cM/V7YQqyyk2rPRFMNgrPWFvVzZgG6BylPJmJdH4Z TDdo3VoSpe9JD/PomxEhVjo1ELCnNmofX+bKg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.176.2 with SMTP id d2mr453185anp.155.1304493939473; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.42.19 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 01:25:39 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:25:40 -0000 List, I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work (obviously). find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz Thanks! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:35:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959C7106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:35:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EBF8FC14 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (maumau.torservers.net [195.60.76.239]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7111C5A8C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:11:28 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:35:22 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110504073522.GA5327@external.screwed.box> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:35:33 -0000 Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! 2011/05/04 01:25:39 -0600 Modulok => To FreeBSD Questions : M> find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz xargs(1) ? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:40:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579F3106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:40:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5708FC12 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so852522wwc.31 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:40:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=jHgVJCMHz8zqCoYshbIe+DjMJckIUEfKq1GLFNnZAhU=; b=rpcC0KrubKoCIXUCrZRspWtu620Bba2nNqZUZUVQXl9kv/wdkRTlqxGhojc6UCTDUQ i1j2Sk41mFOBUk7U+gi2YR/vdrCBLdqbd7WcUQlu+CJf3Jkc/YFcpLkQR7URfnaDmXdl AEX9KG+H9FDEa84Vw2cmIbZ6eMY8aG9RXjPVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cxehW2qslFMCDt5DVbiV0YOC9Vvip5cjBqa3mPpelPFOJn7HWgsWKX/kCMP+oWCirC I4yw2XzhIqMoZgI3fF3LTx8NDFMYaG9cZb0zPmkKBatHLoKWUSh1QdbRtPl6ebMyrnML iINOfGI+CU7R64oEDxYaRrFtY6HvYbJGHtko0= Received: by 10.227.29.27 with SMTP id o27mr821810wbc.16.1304494843609; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-181-201.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.181.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm505672wbc.61.2011.05.04.00.40.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 00:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC102CA.9060706@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:39:54 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:40:45 -0000 On 04/05/2011 09:25, Modulok wrote: > List, > > I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the > putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which > contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work > (obviously). > > find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz > > Thanks! > -Modulok- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Modulok, As Peter said you could try using the xargs command with find. This should works as well: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | xargs tar -czf result.tgz -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 07:44:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522C2106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8E88FC0A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so508744pvg.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:44:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=iHtiW5Zcex44yIxNM4bPDh/HZaHdt0o0/y/+MUUQ2+M=; b=qnO0H04UOg2jh4TM6LqoPyywnxhdy1LScul3mrPQ6wYy7DS9A1PNpaXhcD0zN3UMkX eovG/RuL2XbAdawqtBJECnt17hsIFbGlss7+kklN5Ukk6y22bBaICy2TjQbRT1WlFbEo Voowu3D+vnpdwshQP+Tl1IZurRKOsrUHhK9aY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=sK1UYBSdV4eIWwxyItw9AzzM5a8/973dkrLZUpw6XR9nML096iBvgpFekEakH/+YGY l2SwAa4qvUzwK8KteLFfdUV7xosDRb36mC242d8cGsBoDGNK/uVPmYCy7CwjyBLHj+ny 1OGS5kAeZqWVpjgI0NGQVYw5ta+PQxA+uwPMo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.64.97 with SMTP id n1mr1224638pbs.251.1304495085669; Wed, 04 May 2011 00:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 00:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 03:44:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:44:46 -0000 > I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the > putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which > contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work > (obviously). > > find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You could use something like: find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz or find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 08:11:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301C4106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC56E8FC16 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1103906bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=bfVg6YpMAmo3NfLsa0hKKySz7yaQZeyyAP+F/bvU6AA=; b=wC8d+OFZmuu+qi8yhKNZOql0a3iqs+GW24ESpiJC5cA3yYkCkJPbYo8eWRFl91MtWq zs4HFyHaHmqcC/NS4FNDJjqpg7E2f/0eTG9U/tdjj2UDjcqLPWv77WtuXMfdyOR9dxck UnvzzqYaiUxaDMmE6HXA/Yzp9w9Kyzq+9Bp/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; b=W0bd8pAlKQx3DUN1OL5vTq/Y4u+Frf9pSA2WB/hYp7izyjOoIM5vIwVRoRozHZ+PY2 AYGjxoxVvpIhgtFwL5x2ejOumImYcybZDGHc0b3/falemCVTxHoGzD7FFsWSV1FlPEYq +BIUtytIE1JGoqvkj7UVRC9h+htB4ufFyd52Y= Received: by 10.204.181.7 with SMTP id bw7mr756469bkb.16.1304496662419; Wed, 04 May 2011 01:11:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 01:06:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:06:56 +0100 Message-ID: To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 08:11:04 -0000 On 4 May 2011 08:44, b. f. wrote: >> I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe the >> putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive which >> contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't work >> (obviously). >> >> find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz > > You could use something like: > > find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz > > or > > find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz > > b. How about using pax? find . -depth -print | pax -wd | gzip > archive.tgz or find . -depth -print | pax -wd | bzip2 > archive.tbz By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 09:30:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD8F106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A972D8FC18 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwj8 with SMTP id 8so573506pwj.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 02:30:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b16cHdyGr6JVetKGudFll/HM432ut5LBCRK8mpCbY8k=; b=NXzspqaamBF422N5TzNCiW6ha1e9KVvimvimAfE8aQmnoEwJNZuNNR+Ogmkrq+Im3Q bAqjh2vcle89+ZK832EnMXGN4vQkKWrKtf9J+VwCzHIcVKK3aiVYATsD1Xbl2lh2ZyuW cCYRxR8GD26068XHAiDclg/NfaLVUsxueOxjE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=xX/SqQnOdMY3wbT201sYbwtUPLmbtuJv9v1acmx+XSwOrGf/8oF0LLJDuQV6C6Kqva /trQAUTDPT+ELpSo3mxoJ2YhEjYmlDLkAErHW/qTWm94PYRDArC8YkBs5yy88FBQ+KOU RN5WpUWMXR7OYExxPFGNO9v4ivWUv+wt1eVp8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.26.134 with SMTP id l6mr1368561pbg.50.1304501402054; Wed, 04 May 2011 02:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 02:30:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 05:30:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: utisoft@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Modulok Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:30:03 -0000 On 5/4/11, Chris Rees wrote: > On 4 May 2011 08:44, b. f. wrote: >>> I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe >>> the >>> putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an archive >>> which >>> contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, but it didn't >>> work >>> (obviously). >>> >>> find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz >> >> You could use something like: >> >> find -X . -name '*.txt' | xargs tar -cjf result.tgz >> >> or >> >> find . -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tgz >> >> b. > > How about using pax? > > find . -depth -print | pax -wd | gzip > archive.tgz > > or > > find . -depth -print | pax -wd | bzip2 > archive.tbz > > > By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for > bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O True. I just reproduced what the OP had. The archive will still use bzip2 compression, and bsdtar won't have a problem handling it, but the name will be misleading. As you wrote, pax(1) is an option, as are cpio(1) and many others... You should be able to use -z with pax to avoid the extra pipe and explicit invocation of gzip in the first case. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 09:42:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388211065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:42:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84638FC0A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg13 with SMTP id 13so414551gyg.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 02:42:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kvAcLy/xyLxYa4+6FqNNXvnc+GAhiI1VXfXCp+dxvnA=; b=KqLbnLkibrp++T+a0/Zd/xPqmDYLvUA18+jvVhM9Q8laLlpRCZynTO7mForqJ7q1T7 sJmjHps2u0HFcoY0sx2A7k883vHNjKQ0qITfEeKD+tWcydEl20xGZsx58Uk5WeDvTuj2 3ruiU4gCh2QZv6BfDNKseggZHcJlZFubr+wXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Pq2PLTLRemISkEQBHObRSTgvoiMgxL0Re2tH00v9eRZZBMTdR4As/KkfDzZP+VDeb8 9s9+K+7806Vo8YOkO38hUo1G5HZPLPZm7c6J0Qpa0DZtxr0/Y82Tchso7Gw0WO03rQyQ UKECldFYYiU71h7n8WqCSt9surURWs1oxIz/g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.108.14 with SMTP id k14mr559402anm.89.1304502165006; Wed, 04 May 2011 02:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.42.19 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 02:42:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 03:42:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: Modulok To: bf1783@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:42:46 -0000 >> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format pax option? Cheers Everyone! -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 10:14:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60699106566C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 10:14:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B5F8FC0A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 10:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so696635pxi.35 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 03:14:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=3Rm9xBU+pmNZxwE40s+QfOx53J59Ad9+vndycCcpltQ=; b=s4qI78AWEMhIEu2e06oxUFlZlmNj2W1HmaCX15mZQFmNbbqZI5vKjk6OObJNklUY4Z AqSsbOwok6QDlenm0aweOrAt6y+WbD2QX1WPBKcnNdQy5EU5ry84DcOyKFs7AdHfYFT6 eQbRU0CaOZ0aZQMHUYi7p1pteM0UuoTeGK5Pg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=qkntxBsj4phyCQCv0rw/cqO4JdCIzOu9ngcFt/drQ9VWcuF0L/AdF9JozXVqGphs/y 6htQENlxS+mGnxsNyQg1PPoYIK5/T0sJ4ojiwpfNJe0W1+s9TIUhqAAYWpD91AU/X7b2 mzu+EtiZWwhsnoZxxfiAZ6heGej+digug8haM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.59.73 with SMTP id x9mr1233408pbq.452.1304504096695; Wed, 04 May 2011 03:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 03:14:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 06:14:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:14:57 -0000 On 5/4/11, Modulok wrote: > > As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format > pax > option? Yes, although I haven't tested it thoroughly. pax(1) should also be able to create a number of different archive formats via the -x flag. I prefer tar(1) (bsdtar/libarchive), because it has more features. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 09:21:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1C5106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jack@jarasoft.net) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB118FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from raats.xs4all.nl (orac.jarasoft.net [10.10.10.10]) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5D33D75D0 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jarasc430 (raats.xs4all.nl [82.95.230.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by raats.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D37083D7428 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> From: "Jack Raats" To: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:44 +0200 Organization: JaRaSoft, Steenbergen, Nederland MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP on orac.jarasoft.net X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:20:21 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Raats List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:21:31 -0000 I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Is it possible to limit the SSH access?=20 I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory.=20 So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own = home dir. Also the same for sftp... Thanks for your time Jack Raats From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:35:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA1B106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA018FC12 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from russet.local (reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p44BZPcR069952 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:35:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p44BZPcR069952 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1304508931; bh=GuaH7V2zv4lIpys5GMKqaOD4+KGtBTo6ofBEsLUcAro=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2004=20May=202011=2012:35:19=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.17)=20Gecko/20110414=20Thunderbird/3.1.10|MIME-Version:=20 1.0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Limitting =20SSH=20access|References:=20<07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@ja rasc430>|In-Reply-To:=20<07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc43 0>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B =20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig8460353A5D1F0DAB59F362 0B"; b=p7uxcK1ukzaizKi4aTQbV89dCzbmiC/qJpxvtCtuWsYRwyGdYyArTpJ3PgsMujLgs yr3xjBDZQap2sv8bfu9c5+kf9gQXXKUIFq9+/UUYCcx00vTuLEv/PCc5WnISxmk1Mi KCi0QdWS4DlfClhlJSFEyIzeIfU6VaFOXC5jsCus= X-Authentication-Warning: lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host reflex.squiz.co.uk [83.217.109.164] claimed to be russet.local Message-ID: <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:35:19 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> In-Reply-To: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8460353A5D1F0DAB59F3620B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:35:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8460353A5D1F0DAB59F3620B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: > I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. >=20 > Is it possible to limit the SSH access?=20 > I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory.=20 > So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own= home dir. > Also the same for sftp... >=20 I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in security/openssh-portable Cheers Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8460353A5D1F0DAB59F3620B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3BOfwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwOSwCdFN9p0g3PrGCwXZDHIMCc4JNI A30An3HpRv4qTmxozJAi8jVuVOAOppHK =KzVm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8460353A5D1F0DAB59F3620B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:45:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C161065688 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94B78FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1275301bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:45:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hlmZwfa9Cms7FFdwYsM6Ue8QqlNIf5DIHrfuy2DIh8g=; b=sSeY5XfIV2mebqxAf9KMEEct3HRCbMKENVNZx9KR9SeAyMcCjaDMqZgV1EWDUzvQSz n/thdXtNeLrA7PJsmgeirl03O4CylumQrHeQA1wdxemP507iDpVxnBp6Ov7gOWDKBtFp nOuWa09M2JPeCH/m5fya0z0tRBjzmZWX86aqM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=BmHxCbW3C6YyvI8nXl2EcFO+cKVHBVlsU4vmtciCO8ADweOOJjRCal7pT9zQGaklIu pZ0FUidMf/ezsqiQOTPK3I1kqHwGIMsJE1uVkZMqbrMGtmBryM97LAw/IoX5gGOa9D8S h+wM1h0ICkBavIl9HFSRyKhhlAc9f132tHgx8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.74.11 with SMTP id s11mr126831bkj.43.1304509055982; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:37:35 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Modulok Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: bf1783@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:45:11 -0000 On 4 May 2011 10:42, "Modulok" wrote: > > >> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for > bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O > > Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of > space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It > should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) > > find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz > > As for pax, I thought tar could create pax archives too, via the --format pax > option? Pax makes tar by default-- It's a great way to make tars with cpio syntax. > > Cheers Everyone! > -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 11:52:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2DF1065676 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kron24@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628138FC16 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1016602fxm.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:52:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8haNpWYmvm+FhmdtRlfUYWX8+z8d74jmoDub/Rzusq0=; b=tSlPdLfN4vi2Px0oPPQKA3CC53eQ0C0sI6seRdWzlg7Ewak+u0oUhgO7+c195pQWW9 N8AFmuLnWyJ+h2Y5N9vL99DaJV5C8p6AvV3ofE1yYPtLuiIp2Rsn5R63IzF/mELfS3zl YloL06jmexV7m2JQ+UHN1C9SNNcZzQSUhFGUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wtz1smeTAj9rcxBZFdPXT1v6koiLTiSE7ipfyFHHpd4yKwVzOVT3+1W/hFI3015Gr7 ycVPUMGclRS5dOJ16VMgUSHvo6qygM/huG9sljKG+RK+B81m+dSpUzG3kiHzCSv3GRkH 9dNuYOPFP2tgFqhrXTIbvb3IlDfYfIyYcOW+o= Received: by 10.223.144.144 with SMTP id z16mr1136580fau.24.1304508312266; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (uidzr185142.sattnet.cz [212.96.185.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm353978fam.11.2011.05.04.04.25.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 04:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC13794.6010004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:25:08 +0200 From: kron24 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110421 Fedora/3.1.9-2.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:52:11 -0000 Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): >>> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for > bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O > > Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of > space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It > should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) > > find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. I consider cpio a better option here. BR Oli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:11:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92EED106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:11:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from repcsike@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252338FC17 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1067454wwc.31 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:11:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ie9jRilvsS+ZTtLYC2Qz2IsIWTAGzCXVLAkSLBD2tHQ=; b=yIJ+Kb0UonpBtWydpicCDAYZI0kx9xuTZGdHY55AbRDZtWBHu8AbnrxzW/pXGPr1kT Gf3Ax4CjcsGkMKOrGVdawpDmzVjHICsIxfWB1X1wi21cOoYcrjMYnu3vyer5anFTy9Ii tL5t54V1qmhLhjhPLAqpmqzwzyFt4DXRDYnEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PSrIUdomsntzI+PEmWngcgLKpdGOnnB8HLRYJWN0nUjJN3L5aaSW/ex6rlaTkdacY8 5mbAxKkF+15dxbQ9TnlpEdJLbxHj+YZuNEPrQkD40gtiMmWqsK5uAP6gjbkEcY7sM33l 68I41c+rHQfEW02ucDqSIg9rKbrzTReNWziQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.6.219 with SMTP id a27mr1057464wba.46.1304509635325; Wed, 04 May 2011 04:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.141.199 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 04:47:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 13:47:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:11:07 -0000 On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: > > I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access? > > I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. > > So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own > home dir. > > Also the same for sftp... > > > > I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to > get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in > security/openssh-portable > > Cheers > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > Hello, It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd -v. Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=sshd_config&sektion=5 Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that restricts the user from leaving his or her home directory! Regards, Balazs Mateffy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:22:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23B2106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297F68FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so4230236wwk.1 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:22:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from :in-reply-to:references:x-operating-system:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jQpe3bJsaQRbrkdAf8SDc/G8W2wZ8CdSRAOJVeOEBtg=; b=Q8zVPe+IfxYPJR4J0IKhEvTLgKWdJmB83WkANU60OXwzxwQptDLzV37vuL3OMEVU3N 4Y+tGwBdUhbdnV5+KePcS70fZrOL0arYdEOsquE2s4SmY1IXpt2N9RuJzrLP0wK209CM L/pP+9B3hxMqJ5tAYmaxTAwTSgH9/LbDH2BwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:x-virus-scanned:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :x-operating-system:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pA3UxO3fSie2+wmYvv399Tj69Chq8tfVNV0ZGv2mKGGYBuQxND3u67ES+wHhMuxERj +oHcicHAOZq3G3s5bhv80+aoROL843w81lBhLYEg7fQC+uJGLdUV36QA9jqYkL3fY4t5 NzHbtCQ5gTEE9HotKE8SPnUSX27JaOjSxTqAU= Received: by 10.216.59.147 with SMTP id s19mr1045828wec.51.1304510623170; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (LCaen-151-92-21-48.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [217.128.200.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d59sm522683wed.45.2011.05.04.05.03.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 05:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Eric Masson Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683BFCF252; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:03:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.associated-bears.org Received: from srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org ([127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nMIDI8aRbVsB; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:03:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66DFBCF240; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:03:35 +0200 (CEST) To: Jack Raats From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> (Jack Raats's message of "Wed, 4 May 2011 11:08:44 +0200") References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE amd64 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:03:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86wri6r7u0.fsf@srvbsdfenssv.interne.associated-bears.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:22:37 -0000 "Jack Raats" writes: Hello, > I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. Don't know sshd version in 7.4-STABLE, but if higher or equal to 4.8, the following link could help : http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 Regards Éric Masson -- >C'est pas un pingouin mais une hirondelle africaine et sa noix de coco Maintenant que vous le dîtes, c'est fort possible, Roland Courbis a des faux airs de John Cleese, mais en plus petit. -+- fc&t in : Une hirondelle ne fait pas le pingouin-+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:37:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C8B106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f176.google.com (mail-px0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B327E8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi11 with SMTP id 11so774491pxi.7 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:37:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XqjRFH4NknuRKC+eZLcSe4APzyAK5y9y73oYP5JHYVU=; b=GsPLxKIQhX+MNGlcMYwtSFZpJOvajErvAu1cvJZ57urR5yWh/qzBaWZxyHlCg+CAHY OHksPyA2VUURi+Fczk/urxM2qUffYdJH+gXLp6PTAccD63FBnX0Big13Z/gYCBucWjcX XbxhIl/rrg2qvkz5Mg08puzQSZUMnMca5HUuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=KxRIJu0YXU3QywwQcPjy9vkpiktmC3M9GyMv+ivBg4O0IsBfs8+igsOJ7z5AF/lNHp uqF9ikjaeACp4FSyEs/6sRmAm168XO49siqa7oXLPErk/ZFwlDEpuSOG6YYyePI1R+a8 ISwv2L+MT0LzGI9vEkGLxpcVTqSh1fnuTPafk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.60.67 with SMTP id f3mr1512058pbr.318.1304512645131; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 05:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:37:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: kron24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:37:26 -0000 > Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): > >>> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for > > bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O > > > > Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of > > space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It > > should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) > > > > find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz > > When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice > or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. > > I consider cpio a better option here. The use of simple patterns permitted by tar(1) or cpio(1) may be a good choice in some cases, but we were responding to the OP's wish to use find(1), which is a bit more flexible. If there were a large number of files, one could still use find and tar in many cases by appending to the archive rather than (re)creating it with each tar invocation, e.g.: find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -rvf archive.tar ; bzip2 archive.tar b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 12:49:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8108D106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5F68FC14 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so1052294wyf.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tn7tchHaWD20bV2XiBaNpOtZoin5eFN1L8aafKnqOGo=; b=HRVpMQzM4BdLhYRPt+7yt1w05XwU7//mao82PLrJch9ePTyu8xZApHmUQWknoK587W AVHaDcCV8TstiweKIC7IrsH9dRpP3zwpDjqfaqOh+VQ8wUUYNK3M9RI9Ci6pVf/oSXOA NQveI+ElWDaP6VErlRLxcKqjfsUwyJ9hlTidw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uTIIBR+dPO2iN4rAGB43igTSeayBEQ4ajGaqKifooLdyVphciKujIwDrXnOZto0dyR C8DXNCzYB9Vs77+JOvVwfzdk0BbWEepMvE/4NCGGriv5JdBbU68ZqcNIeE40iup/cAKw 7McREhuoD9G9H4/uhCHyVeJ4xhURwmqPKK90g= Received: by 10.216.236.28 with SMTP id v28mr4738764weq.12.1304513392845; Wed, 04 May 2011 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-181-201.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.181.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z13sm679937wbd.29.2011.05.04.05.49.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 05:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:49:04 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:49:54 -0000 Hello, I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... Do you have some good advices ? -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823041065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DB08FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p44D4Goi073793; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:04:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 08:04:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201105041304.p44D4Goi073793@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, modulok@gmail.com In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:04:05 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed May 4 02:26:32 2011 > Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 01:25:39 -0600 > From: Modulok > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Piping find into tar... > > List, > > I've been playing with the find command lately. Is there a way I can pipe > the putput list of files from find, into the tar command to create an > archive which contains the files which find lists? I tried the following, > but it didn't work > (obviously). > > find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print | tar -cjf result.tgz You're asking 'the wrong question'. tar _requires_ the filenames to be listed as parameters to the command. There are at least four ways to accomplish this, given the specific example you show. 1) The simplest: tar -cjf result.tbz .*.txt *.txt 2) in-line substitution: tar -cjf result.tbz `find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print` 3) using the '-T' option: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar -c -j --null -T - -f result.tbz 3) using xargs: find -E . '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs tar -rjf result.tar; bzip2 result.tar Options 1) or 2) will fail 'immediately', if the pattern expands to an excessively long set of filenames. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:09:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45ED106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kron24@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486F18FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1082719fxm.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x1netcC82OlIgODm2XbDNcjOy57DgTOPmooBkuRHSNQ=; b=xivhjWhUBcTgiSk8EcHhz4eysBV3CQBTUlHJBouUdkZLaF9LHTd58HT2A8PDA+NIdn C6jVnRRp2pUhpsKu2h7HDbUKF8dsGnptwr+xhAEB24PjyPEHVQQexX3y37GPlxPHZGe+ bMJDG7fs6VUvPNFPuV5LmwSS7jPAi0Lvx86R0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oUjSgPfa55d8NY/rsRjHUJRNf/rOgBmz5+JoLv9oqbynMZwEivb4P7ZlIMM4icEn+N mSmduS9jaTJW3LJ0rNjlYBOwzQEvTe35QiJIlRzNmd+TfcjVBZv34I3vvojgjvWIq1Nm JMTvSaCAzUulfi1vP6v0Yj5aZP1tgiAoSDt2I= Received: by 10.223.145.78 with SMTP id c14mr1254802fav.75.1304514540071; Wed, 04 May 2011 06:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (uidzr185142.sattnet.cz [212.96.185.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm390847fam.11.2011.05.04.06.08.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 06:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC14FE8.2080207@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:08:56 +0200 From: kron24 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110421 Fedora/3.1.9-2.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@googlemail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:09:01 -0000 Dne 4.5.2011 14:37, b. f. napsal(a): >> Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): ... >>> find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz >> >> When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice >> or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. >> >> I consider cpio a better option here. > > The use of simple patterns permitted by tar(1) or cpio(1) may be a > good choice in some cases, but we were responding to the OP's wish to > use find(1), which is a bit more flexible. If there were a large > number of files, one could still use find and tar in many cases by > appending to the archive rather than (re)creating it with each tar > invocation, e.g.: > > find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -rvf archive.tar > ; bzip2 archive.tar Yes, this would work, of course. Anyway, I prefer to use "find ... | cpio ... | bzip2 ...". I just disputed Modulok's solution "find ... | xargs tar -cjf ..." which wouldn't work in some cases. BR, Oli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 13:24:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8664C1065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B90A8FC15 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 13:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10615 invoked from network); 4 May 2011 13:24:29 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 May 2011 13:24:29 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E15081F; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id A804039842; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:24:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Modulok , kron24 References: <4DC13794.6010004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:24:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4DC13794.6010004@gmail.com> (kron's message of "Wed, 04 May 2011 13:25:08 +0200") Message-ID: <44r58ey4xl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:24:30 -0000 kron24 writes: > Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): >>>> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for >> bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O >> >> Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of >> space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It >> should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) >> >> find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz > > When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice > or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. Yes, xargs isn't part of the solution for this case unless you use the update mode to tar, which will be much slower. However, tar can read the file list from a file, which can be stdin if you want. The equivalent of the above command would be something like: find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar --null -T - -cjf result.tbz > I consider cpio a better option here. The old ways still work very well. But it's worth noting that on FreeBSD these days, cpio(1) and tar(1) are both implemented on the same library, so there are very few things that one can do but the other cannot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:09:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9336A106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1B48FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p44E6Icl096624; Wed, 4 May 2011 10:06:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p44E6I8V096623; Wed, 4 May 2011 10:06:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:06:18 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110504140618.GA96591@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4DC0534B.1040005@stanford.edu> <20110503213323.GA91026@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <5E9EADE0E5A1B6C0E1B3D061@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E9EADE0E5A1B6C0E1B3D061@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:09:06 -0000 On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 08:48:55PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of May 3, 2011 5:33:23 PM -0400, Jerry McAllister is alleged to have > said: > > >I don't remember seeing that. > >Anyway, go to the FreeBSD Release Engineering web site for information. > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > > --As for the rest, it is mine. > > While that *should* be good advice, the most current 'upcoming releases' it > lists are 8.2 and 7.4, both released a couple of months ago now. (Which it > does say, at least.) So it's really fairly useless at the moment. > > Basically, as far as I can tell, 9 and/or 8.3 will come out when they come > out. No sooner and no later. That is the way I interpret the page. eg. No code freeze. Open for submissions. ////jerry > > Daniel T. Staal > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:25:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545041065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2E08FC1B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1456305bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GgBuZHzJBIj5EPyHyv4qaCdwHUgzRULR8YBibylywbg=; b=iJM6C7ouWRpXifKgt9RxPZXAJG7CBWnlSWBZhhQlS43CMu0frpYrLCDJOcwF3l6dB3 /X4C2448IP+EHSaqHoAYy/T74XOS0olA7pCuwWwBMOJ+H4KRPCyyPt0BUXNjWas/6uwl mkkt5uEe7fGBPo0Bmgu3hrs+fEqCkQ8l2AjCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=ejeotj+w4qklRDSn7x3JteS4+XWhzygUiACd13lf2hboFaaZ2NJ2P5/XYwajNw29Xu G6IKhFVdjJHAfzJduDSVxwZInokqMLtTYNjZZNRVnHkUXcootmQYVFXcaZljEE34BTC4 8eaAsK+tl93qcry//6hybk3YGl5VUDOQk1RJY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.231.198 with SMTP id jr6mr1098070bkb.205.1304519098682; Wed, 04 May 2011 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <44r58ey4xl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> References: <4DC13794.6010004@gmail.com> <44r58ey4xl.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:24:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: kron24 , Modulok Subject: Re: Piping find into tar... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:25:00 -0000 On 4 May 2011 14:25, "Lowell Gilbert" < freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: > > kron24 writes: > > > Dne 4.5.2011 11:42, Modulok napsal(a): > >>>> By the way, in reference to the commands above the -j option is for > >> bzip2, so the extension should be .tbz o_O > >> > >> Thanks everyone! I went with the following, because it works regardless of > >> space characters in filenames. (Thanks for the correction on the extenion. It > >> should indeed be 'tbz' when using the 'j' flag.) > >> > >> find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cjf result.tbz > > > > When the amount of files is huge then tar will be invoked twice > > or more. Thus result.tbz will contain just files from the last invocation. > > Yes, xargs isn't part of the solution for this case unless you use the > update mode to tar, which will be much slower. However, tar can read > the file list from a file, which can be stdin if you want. The > equivalent of the above command would be something like: > > find -E . -regex '.*\.txt$' -print0 | tar --null -T - -cjf result.tbz > > > I consider cpio a better option here. > > The old ways still work very well. > > But it's worth noting that on FreeBSD these days, cpio(1) and tar(1) are > both implemented on the same library, so there are very few things that > one can do but the other cannot. > Why on Earth are people still fooling about contorting tar into weird shapes???? The great thing about pax is It's a drop in replacement for cpio that makes tar archives; It's designed to be used with find! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:28:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0F91065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B9B8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1460620bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 07:28:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1i8yAaosxnBiBaoz/+AdGY+MDhUuAb1bhYb0vFT3Zzc=; b=qH+bRQd7XzPoj2of/IpAOrhxLMpCCgeDy+IjgkDhTUtpmvC5+ARzgry/IgmvCdtma6 KNzVTIlbFQIjpBdetw0tGbjgPFCQU55b7FuiPj9AwKtu2xlxR5LrbZhdOcoMDqovVVo5 7EPY7rhUv15CXpdTGcI3G8undYUrquNUBkZwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=IPQ32hQ5Q71gpdr48x80xjlCo7UoczY3Bakafty+iuruHslRD91fOOfyBsfdk0M6P4 sXKwGgf537GEb25CJq6ZM7YDrL8o4uJ7z12uQNK+JM3kDAoLGrj8rtucDeW1Bj2/sauR RFfFua8bMgRVr4eqjTYvVKGlV7NBMzbBVEx/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.74.11 with SMTP id s11mr174003bkj.43.1304519231390; Wed, 04 May 2011 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> References: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:27:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: David Demelier Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:28:13 -0000 On 4 May 2011 13:58, "David Demelier" wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip needed no specific vendor driver). > > I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple copies. > > http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 > > I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... > > Do you have some good advices ? > Gutenprint supports nearly every printer under the Sun, is there a problem using gutenprint-cups? Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:19:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F9B106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625CD8FC15 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1268378wwc.31 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:19:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VvMzkitsD9iTPQMWaVeSuJWhF4Rx0oP6j0yb+XWDi0g=; b=HnhvJXf7MMki0hDKv5NLfwVRKAUd0BTQRR2qoPCIXwjbVnGrJyQuOD9nM8mm4DCglA DtWKRQkbTa+R33ULl0Qf9qXEu81lU622YOr+uq1Xz3mgJsO6+cNN+qDY+G1sZYejYVRl 2DWM5p87AuV6eMDZ187G76KROCpcNi8bnAFzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Jlnjoscc1/RFGYDr74NSdsR7+aGC+rh/W8i6aII+H3nfbFGSAOtQz8Yom0mfc0a3EE lw7rKrNCDIXqpJ5398AaRdRrGdU0ZwPr6tQnTpUXsFw8p0bUb+B1xDlWtciIOdfx+QO5 9F+7qF96z9v6LbO0qnebhJfhx0ZQYwPt/N5YQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.16.32 with SMTP id g32mr4979778weg.0.1304522350539; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.15.73 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:19:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Kevin Wilcox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Free BSD Questions list , geoff@apro.com.au Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:19:13 -0000 On 3 May 2011 20:44, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 15:19, Geoff Roberts wrote: > > > Is it possible to join two sites with the same subnet across a VPN? > > Yes. > > > I have two sites that have the same subnet/mask. > > > > I need these two separated networks to behave as one across a VPN. > > That's understandable. You may want to consider breaking the /24 into > two /25s, one at each site, and routing the connection instead but > that's not necessary and you can indeed use a bridge with few issues. > > > Happy to use either IPSec or OpenVPN to actually encrypt the traffic. > > We've done it as a demo of what you can do with OpenVPN, it's trivial > once you get some configuration issues straight in your head (or > that's how it worked for me). > > To bridge in OpenVPN, take a look at: > > > http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/76-ethernet-bridging.html > > kmw > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > you can do this with a combination of openvpn (using tap, not tun) and if_bridge both ends. However I have found it to be flakey and not really worth the effort. Better to go with a routed solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:27:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8481065678 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F80F8FC15 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so4412077wwk.1 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PLEYltxMUlfvnGxYpkKRMmE7emlc05/yklwO950h6/k=; b=fUIvVy1BFOG8Sm7BorYSWxhAdoVcVugiDcZcICbWlYUkd+uc34UauIDWi9PKF1Y4Vu v67EykI6h8zvHbefTqhcW6dGZ8m0GBTg8Nmt8UZoEG00NOsLGiChwOdGYvw0kCkmu6Xz 6HlhgwC0Pd2l3DlGlZoeTWLP/NnLpYSreQB3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=DKzZlagifW9vZZoGltwYFjC4wOctEPb1tAlWA1tgIHn+GwNgcmC/vBm6cHLAFfnfZ7 pMCzsrF/bfI+x7B9WHxQJNFFygJG4EolCwgLarWTIAPTeXYSpHcR5El6+dLKzGjKf726 4bA4sxwcwRuRq9L8Pws2BB+3gWkjp6kvI9X90= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.143.96 with SMTP id k74mr5064777wej.100.1304522827322; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.15.73 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:27:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:27:09 -0000 On 4 May 2011 12:47, Bal=E1zs M=E1t=E9ffy wrote: > On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > > On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: > > > I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. > > > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access? > > > I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. > > > So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his o= wn > > home dir. > > > Also the same for sftp... > > > > > > > I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to > > get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in > > security/openssh-portable > > > > Cheers > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > Flat 3 > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > > Hello, > > It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd > -v. > Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=3Dsshd_config&sektion=3D5 > > Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that restricts > the user from leaving his or her home directory! > > Regards, > > Balazs Mateffy. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > if you want them to be able to get a shell ether then sftp prompt then you will have to go for the rbash option. If you chroot the shell to their home dir they wont have access to any system binaries so wont be able to 'ls' fo= r example. Having said that you could build a tree of all the binaries they need along with all the dependent libraries. This would get a bit cumbersome and wasteful of disk space for lots of users though. You might be better off with jails. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 14:38:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDC6106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glenn@mail.bnetmd.net) Received: from mail.bnetmd.net (NS1.BNETMD.NET [66.159.80.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0CF8FC18 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GLENN2 (c-68-33-226-75.hsd1.md.comcast.net [68.33.226.75]) by mail.bnetmd.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id p44ELQrS076412 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 10:21:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from glenn@mail.bnetmd.net) Message-ID: <38DC6171D4FF45B4BE66EBBBDDCF7DD6@GLENN2> From: "Glenn McCalley" To: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 10:21:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6090 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:30:26 +0000 Subject: Helix (RealNetworks) Server on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:38:28 -0000 Hey there... anyone running an up-to-date Helix media server from RealNetworks on FreeBSD? Not the 5 or 6 year old one they used to market as "FreeBSD compatible", but a current version? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 15:47:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283161065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9502D8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 15:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1562060bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=G1xfzzQcNMrL7srRCR1bFQ+5jA7j931RcFgZehHkgAg=; b=pmCZUPlO6ZCBQEWryLEOjgyDm0FurqY4k+gYPlka2Ml9Ex2ero5sknLUR9W9oQZ6gx VCaEYFxNiLKOkrK0HNH74DqmRm8qDKSM/wj7Jp4H+UAtsfP5Qmd1i6zmvWpa27sMzmVY cBQ+XiLBjcsSpohFV4pIh9fd0ytAYPhwMkHYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=MyvvK+mypIAqLc+zXX+3s2ZoDhWJufqLRgR41RTPkryZoXRUA7nhMCIxFCAae0UNgo Zvo0Xp9JSftVGI2bfMu5tl+53V5aIWdkm++NQypeqNyMGEYygnB8PJL5K2ZHpbIhhGHO KxEF9Fgj9mmIYyVceexXBQTCDiVxbqSK4xWXk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.22.202 with SMTP id o10mr41254bkb.70.1304524053139; Wed, 04 May 2011 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 16:47:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?B?QmFs4XpzIE3hdOlmZnk=?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 15:47:35 -0000 On 4 May 2011 16:27, "krad" wrote: > > On 4 May 2011 12:47, Bal=E1zs M=E1t=E9ffy wrote: > > > On 4 May 2011 13:35, Matthew Seaman > > wrote: > > > > > On 04/05/2011 10:08, Jack Raats wrote: > > > > I have a question concerning SSH op a FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE server. > > > > > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access? > > > > I want t o restrict a user to his own home directory. > > > > So that if he connects to the server with SSH he only can go to his own > > > home dir. > > > > Also the same for sftp... > > > > > > > > > > I believe you will need to install a version of OpenSSH from ports to > > > get that functionality. It's the CHROOT config option in > > > security/openssh-portable > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Matthew > > > > > > -- > > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > > Flat 3 > > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > It should work with the base openssh on 7.4. Check your version with sshd > > -v. > > Here, search for chroot(or use google :)): > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=3Dsshd_config&sektion=3D5 > > > > Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that restricts > > the user from leaving his or her home directory! > > > > Regards, > > > > Balazs Mateffy. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > if you want them to be able to get a shell ether then sftp prompt then yo= u > will have to go for the rbash option. If you chroot the shell to their home > dir they wont have access to any system binaries so wont be able to 'ls' for > example. > > Having said that you could build a tree of all the binaries they need along > with all the dependent libraries. This would get a bit cumbersome and > wasteful of disk space for lots of users though. You might be better off > with jails. > Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount into ~userN/bin. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 16:05:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EE71065672 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCE08FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-router40-readme.formlessnetworking.net [199.48.147.40]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 475385A95 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:41:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 20:04:59 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110504160459.GB5327@external.screwed.box> References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:05:19 -0000 Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! 2011/05/04 16:47:33 +0100 Chris Rees => To krad : CR> > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access? CR> > > Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that CR> restricts CR> Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount into CR> ~userN/bin. I personally should like to have a quick recipe on how to create such a limited set of binaries ( libraries, mans, etc., each mounted with nullfs read-only to every such a user's home ) from the 'world' build. Some options like the rsync I consider to be a must in some cases so this should include the ports availability, isn't it? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 16:37:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846F4106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C8A8FC1C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1619148bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 09:37:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qlcg8MmOzJXlB6WqRDc/bpq+pUkVt/4T8wUKLvLgwro=; b=KzwW7ObMuLGB7HsMqmj5ZdJ3eXaR4lzwOBg1M8VcTkyvKY6UsWjb7+UoWj5tIHpRkR tD/kOU62nx06lSKq4Wm2gfNwJebAhZ8+bL3ypxpfEJBoSNxqYp3QBxCE03C/DUvEX4cD e/LxLThVC73IS6FMI42Ei0J+v18SYuZKzBIBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A+nbwKxFqAwuVMLCs4v9aOFM/46N0FbF1/DRBbCn4YUkAO1AGKmMZJ4UcnSE9Slcwp HKAcoeMbGXtChy61U2/rdLEu22Su7+JDGsU3fG5cfoq37H8hgL3EE/NT96+mQE09RzY+ Os19j/FwLjkhjwtTh/dIpofHAKXuDPmgIFzNU= Received: by 10.204.81.203 with SMTP id y11mr129528bkk.124.1304527021096; Wed, 04 May 2011 09:37:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:36:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110504160459.GB5327@external.screwed.box> References: <07CAE521148F4E7392202CD6B031F504@jarasc430> <4DC139F7.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110504160459.GB5327@external.screwed.box> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 17:36:10 +0100 Message-ID: To: Peter Vereshagin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limitting SSH access X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:37:06 -0000 2011/5/4 Peter Vereshagin : > Wake me up when September ends, freebsd-questions! > 2011/05/04 16:47:33 +0100 Chris Rees =3D> To krad : > CR> > > > > Is it possible to limit the SSH access? > CR> > > Regarding ssh login, I usually use "rbash" from the ports, that > CR> restricts > CR> Or you could have a special /bin-restricted that you nullfs mount int= o > CR> ~userN/bin. > > > I personally should like to have a quick recipe on how to create such a l= imited > set of binaries ( libraries, mans, etc., each mounted with nullfs =A0read= -only to > every such a user's home ) from the 'world' build. > Some options like the rsync I consider to be a must in some cases so this > should include the ports availability, isn't it? > Hehe, big can of worms here. Plenty of opportunity to break out of a chroot, as well as the fact that it's largely discredited as a security mechanism [1]. Someone mentioned Jails earlier, probably a better idea. Chris [1] http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 16:50:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50771065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF288FC13 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1634304bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.32.65 with SMTP id b1mr1283529bkd.73.1304527825174; Wed, 04 May 2011 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.46.28 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 09:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:50:05 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:50:27 -0000 I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though every version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them no longer work. So my question is this, now I know for the future to upgrade ports after every upgrade, is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? I thought about a clean reinstall but this machine cannot boot from USB, both CD-ROM's are dead and have been disconnected to use IDE hard-drives and the floppy driver is dead as well. So it would seem an inline/online rebuild is my only upgrade solution but with ports in it's current state of FUBAR, it leaves me with the question of what to do with that too. P.S. I've tried a portmaster/portsupgrade of ports, both met with disastrous results and with 193 current ports installed, over 75% of which is broke and isn't used any more ... I need to start over -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 16:52:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528E106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D47E8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 16:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p44GqRXW051573; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:52:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 16B36BAAF; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:52:27 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: David Demelier Message-ID: <20110504165227.GB92775@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 16:52:59 -0000 --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:49:04PM +0200, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip=20 > needed no specific vendor driver). If you buy a printer that understands PostScript, you won't need any extra drivers. But; =20 > I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple=20 > copies. To the best of my knowledge, a lot of these all-in-one devices require windows-only drivers and software to work properly. Unless you are _certain_ that it will work, I think it is better to stay away from them. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3BhEsACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUhHQCfWgoKrrM1LxQ4hpAcyV9xerDu GPQAnRx9goprixhrtOiOleF2A+8oRxJd =Ym9J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 17:40:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDD7106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 17:40:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37DD8FC14 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 17:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E691E753; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p44HeSmE001691; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:40:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:40:28 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Demelier Message-Id: <20110504194028.580ac712.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> References: <4DC14B40.8010004@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking full-cups/lpd compilant printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:40:31 -0000 On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:49:04 +0200, David Demelier wrote: > Hello, > > I'm searching a printer that works with cups only (I mean no hplip > needed no specific vendor driver). One word: Postscript. :-) > I would like a simple desktop printer with scanner built-in for simple > copies. Obtain a used office printer. This will safe you money (as toner cartridges are cheap for them) and trouble (as they ususally have a network interface). > http://www.epson.co.uk/Printers-and-All-In-Ones/Inkjet/Epson-Stylus-SX125 I stopped parsing the URI when encounterin "Injket". Do not use an inkpee printer, it's just too expensive. > I like this one but the openprinting site says it recommends the epson > drivers so I don't know if it works without and cups only... Vendor-specific drivers are a big problem of home consumer crap. If there is a foomatic printer filter for the device, you're lucky, but if it's "too new", it won't work, especially if the printer manufacturer refuses to use standards. > Do you have some good advices ? Laser printer. Really. If you require color, choose a color laser printer. They're cheap these days. Pay attention that it supports Postscript. If not, look for something that speaks HP PCL. It's very well supported by the gs (Ghost- Script) printer filter. Don't fear to buy _used_ office equipment. I may say that I have a "huge" HP Laserjet 4000 duplex at home, because it serves my needs _here_ well. I don't need color output, but I love using two-sided printing (for economical reasons). The printer is networked and runs it own (!) lpd, so it's a joy to print with it. The printer is fast, the toner is cheap. It's also very energy-efficient. I got the printer in a used state, it's (I think) 10 years old now. I _heavily_ use it. (I also have a Laserjet 4 that is more than 15 years old and _still_ in a perfectly working condition!) Home consumer crap tends to use USB. This limits you in speed and distance. And whenever you print, it causes system load. It also tends to break after some use. Also if you do NOT use it, it also breaks (or forces you to buy new inkpee ink-tank-and-printing-head-cartridges which are almost as expensive as the printer). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:25:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4A61065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out1.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out1.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4E88FC19 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:25:47 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEABSTwU18qiIV/2dsb2JhbACmHHeIcrwthgcEk0MrihM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,315,1301846400"; d="scan'208";a="782999910" Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.phoenix) ([124.170.34.21]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out1.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 May 2011 01:57:52 +0800 Received: by smtp.phoenix (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C56C11716C; Thu, 5 May 2011 03:57:51 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 03:57:51 +1000 From: andrew clarke To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110504175751.GA43616@ozzmosis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 18:25:48 -0000 On Wed 2011-05-04 12:50:05 UTC-0400, Chris Brennan (xaero@xaerolimit.net) wrote: > I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of > screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, I > didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades though every > version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them no longer work. So > my question is this, now I know for the future to upgrade ports after every > upgrade, is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? You only need to rebuild all your ports after a "major" FreeBSD upgrade, eg. 6.x to 7.x, or 7.x to 8.x. Deleting /usr/local is a bit of an extreme step. You can run pkg_delete -av to delete all installed ports. Starting with a fresh ports tree is probably only necessary if your ports tree is very out of date. Only because if it's stale it could take longer to update it with portsnap than to start the tree from scratch. Of course deleting an existing ports tree can also take a while, too. You shouldn't need to build world & kernel for 8.2 unless you need a custom kernel or something else peculiar to your setup. I have no way of knowing, but I suspect most FreeBSD users just use freebsd-update these days to install the premade binaries of world & kernel. > I thought about a clean reinstall but this machine cannot boot from > USB, both CD-ROM's are dead and have been disconnected to use IDE > hard-drives and the floppy driver is dead as well. You could put the boot HDD into another machine with a working CD-ROM, install it onto that, then put the HDD back into the P3 when you're done. There's no requirement that the installation needs to be done on the same machine it's going to ultimately boot from. Do you actually need to upgrade to 8.x? I'm not sure there's much to gain from putting 8.x on an old P3... Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:26:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7348D10656D5 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286318FC24 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywf7 with SMTP id 7so639875ywf.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.91.5.5 with SMTP id h5mr1383870agi.110.1304533589339; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:26:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v1sm1336016anh.51.2011.05.04.11.26.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 11:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QPnrM0HYhz2CG4n for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:26:26 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 18:26:30 -0000 On Wed, 4 May 2011 12:50:05 -0400 Chris Brennan articulated: > I have an old PIII running FreeBSD7.3 currently, ports is all kinds of > screwed up, when I did my first cross-version upgrade from 6.x to > 7.x, I didn't know I had to rebuild ports, I subsequently upgrades > though every version upto to 7.3. Ports is still FUBAR, half of them > no longer work. So my question is this, now I know for the future to > upgrade ports after every upgrade, is it safe to nuke /usr/local > (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild world/kernel for 8.2 and start > with a fresh ports tree? I thought about a clean reinstall but this > machine cannot boot from USB, both CD-ROM's are dead and have been > disconnected to use IDE hard-drives and the floppy driver is dead as > well. So it would seem an inline/online rebuild is my only upgrade > solution but with ports in it's current state of FUBAR, it leaves me > with the question of what to do with that too. > > P.S. I've tried a portmaster/portsupgrade of ports, both met > with disastrous results and with 193 current ports installed, over > 75% of which is broke and isn't used any more ... I need to start over Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found "portmanager" to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished with that fun chore, run; "portmanager -u -l -y -f". Depending on the number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre that require you to have the distfile all ready in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the port, then do that prior to updating your system and running portmanager. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:40:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888ED106566C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:40:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123D78FC16 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1418730fxm.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vBe2xvY7XkVrNnoqsp7JgByfygWEczMeZHxJGk0fkLk=; b=x2KRj1btQ23p/tEWieWknJuhtaR4v2UzeEv7fMx6wMkiS4fa+biVMfzMKlr09RVBMY XIl1rJwjBLm+C3j/wmyeOufIMhERyZO0ERS55z0b05ngVmxX7QuAlNUF/cTJKcwIbpcn HuPoxTxBy4w1VhvCVjCDwbeFeEPPVqLC4zOUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pPDBM63JJ4SyN9/SX3ALR85XYe5O0IctMQFF37Wq7mhLlpOk1QuMAM5WIjsF9i+J+t 3jVcazRy91fjGYYOtDbftLoKTlFurIAjdw9Q68ZF/mo6m1Ox4aCxxgptEc/v81H+uUhO 9xKnnBJCqp1dMkL72LUNLpVo6e96HpKjoLMrY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.26 with SMTP id b26mr1612308fab.119.1304534413807; Wed, 04 May 2011 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.5 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 11:40:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:40:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 18:40:15 -0000 On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: > is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding =A0/usr/local/home), rebuild > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing the ports (& /var/db/pkg/ as well). --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 18:56:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E92C1065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from promo@powerclassroom.net) Received: from powerclassroom.powerclassroom.net (da.bc.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.188.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A12E8FC0A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from user-11205hg.dsl.mindspring.com [66.32.22.48] by powerclassroom.powerclassroom.net with SMTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:30:48 -0400 From: "PowerMath" To: "questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: PowerClassroom Software Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 12:13:41 -0400 Message-Id: <20110504185651.4E92C1065670@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: PowerMath Newsletter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 18:56:51 -0000 PowerMath Newsletter =20 =20 Mathematics Made Easy =20 May 2011 =20 =20 Animated Lesson-Shows : Courses in Arithmetic, Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Pre-Calculus, = Calculus, Probability and Statistics covering Middle-School, High-School and University level Mathematics, = for Students and Instructors. =20 PowerMath has been featured on among others . . . =20 =20 Exclusion: If you no longer wish to receive email from PowerClassroom Software in= voke < delete > Please do NOT reply to this e-mail if you wish to un= subscribe, instead use the instructions above. Any/all information c= ollected from our customers will not be sold, shared, or rented.=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:53:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44762106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55DA8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1842180bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.20 with SMTP id i20mr250219bkw.208.1304538834059; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.46.28 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:53:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:53:23 -0400 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 19:53:56 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerry wrote: Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found > "portmanager" to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, > if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, > update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished > with that fun chore, run; "portmanager -u -l -y -f". Depending on the > number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, > you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need > a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre > that require you to have the distfile all ready in > the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the > port, then do that prior to updating your system and running > portmanager. > The problem here (as I have previously mentioned and further discussed in my reply to Andrew Clarke) is that the most of the ports won't rebuild for various reasons. I'm pretty handy, but not brilliant. So instead of asking for my hand to be held by the mailing list, I thought nuking everything I installed from ports after moving to 8.x would be the smartest move, then from there reinstall (from a fresh ports tree) only what I need for the retasked purpose. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:55:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C269106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9FD8FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so1843393bwz.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.34 with SMTP id h34mr1526447bkf.19.1304538901174; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:55:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.46.28 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:54:41 -0400 Message-ID: To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 19:55:03 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: > > is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding /usr/local/home), rebuild > > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? > > Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing > the ports (& /var/db/pkg/ as well). > Someone else suggested 'pkg_delete -av' ... would -avf then be a safe assumption? I want to make sure I have a solid leg to stand on before I start anything... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 19:58:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12122106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940778FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so1484545fxm.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:58:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FgAkidoTxfdyzE93uBMH7SYOIuuhQ7hQmKmGSgRJkbk=; b=uXtClID2l5EkOJaI6rAh8LSx31fQu8Ld9y7laZDu9LItVRTZhEKkoeIuhWRb5JVJAL GJbvztSphwlD5xn2YxKqCoiGJGDU4JacoztmjpBKJPop/LqLyg07e0D4M+2Q6/mWgjHy 3nGkSgYXQzTZWGehtVVgZsQTLwCYsAYHxZwA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GRppm9WC7MD0Pv2ZDkOXrXhFVmXrwiKfL1bcS0JgXbMpMmr/WxFuLn3yHB21VHTt/z 5ee1L7Y/X5KkoIFxM3eUAicXXIsYyBlQOVloCBWnlEmZkPyZ8OjEBp1qJmdl+UogBOe6 76XbzjPvi24LdkV32h254MnG8174PaN3U1XmQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.11 with SMTP id 11mr1383936fax.100.1304539125362; Wed, 04 May 2011 12:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.5 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 12:58:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 15:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 19:58:47 -0000 On 4 May 2011 15:54, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:40 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote= : >> >> On 4 May 2011 12:50, Chris Brennan wrote: >> > =A0is it safe to nuke /usr/local (excluding =A0/usr/local/home), rebui= ld >> > world/kernel for 8.2 and start with a fresh ports tree? >> >> Yes, though pkg_delete -af will probably suffice for removing >> the ports (& /var/db/pkg/ as well). > > Someone else suggested 'pkg_delete -av' ... would -avf then be a safe > assumption? > I want to make sure I have a solid leg to stand on before I start > anything... -v is just for verbose. I honestly don't know if the -f makes a difference with -a either. Probably not. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 20:30:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F1E1065674 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 20:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E7E8FC1A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 20:30:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1568156wwc.31 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 13:30:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6H5PXUgI/bQTv2/JbHGG+QsnFhUI1M0DLPFYig7916M=; b=LcsWDsFtO2FW/stPBInMztdmejUvQsRf0er9wNKRetES3d8ctzoWz6s5p1WP1xQ2k0 3hghpOAqDTvTYw0sAx+N1pDZQj6h2H2trbDf5PFLoVWNH8uBX+sH+eT6H4IGerKUTN4z jZ0uEgtXCNpzcHDiSFiV4amZJuetupuUBM3S8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j3XAi84B4VBDpCKPB61MqoXM0XBuZ5eXiA6TJHjqKYV7IsX/Q9Bi1SMWplSUzlP0rY mjDXP3bpEmqOEUGUD7BwDmx1UkkBCUES9eY61V7QeymwYJXYgPUentle/dgeyzunh/4P QZ9hZkZrBd7xBkckLWXCW2Geo9qjR2Oj0IH50= Received: by 10.227.197.199 with SMTP id el7mr1571256wbb.32.1304539257396; Wed, 04 May 2011 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-111-248.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x13sm424664wby.25.2011.05.04.13.00.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 May 2011 20:35:49 +0000 Subject: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 20:30:10 -0000 after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:16:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9ED1065670 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 673968FC18 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 May 2011 20:49:25 -0000 Received: from f051082074.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO bytebox) [78.51.82.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp009) with SMTP; 04 May 2011 22:49:25 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vaWhneGHvHYN8L7lO/pqHfTvAARgPvaRBZp9YJc cvRe35fUG2kjCD Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:49:31 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: 'NB5d@1]I],; 5f]D0Fw?; g&E6i|{1:sF'aA|FuxoBv8CQLNWai(8%vgK9RiTO}Zz\yEafdV GZ-/g%=?L6uwChNkpYQ3yaPv`#sH@sM(uy}HqNi''HAi!rxx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 21:16:07 -0000 On Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from >fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, you go in rox options->compatibility then select the option "Pass all backdrop mouse click to window manager" and/or you may have to select the "Black Box Root menu hack", too. After that your fluxbox menue should work again. cheers -- Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------- - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - - enfalten; - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - Please send plain ASCII text only. - - Please reply below quoted text section. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:24:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DA5106564A for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5379D8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so652191ewy.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.6.10 with SMTP id 10mr740995eem.117.1304544254131; Wed, 04 May 2011 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 14:24:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [64.81.163.112] In-Reply-To: References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:24:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: krad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Kevin Wilcox , Free BSD Questions list , geoff@apro.com.au Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 21:24:15 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:19 AM, krad wrote: > you can do this with a combination of openvpn (using tap, not tun) and > if_bridge both ends. However I have found it to be flakey and not really > worth the effort. Better to go with a routed solution. The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 21:51:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AB1065674 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89228FC1E for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 21:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muji2.config (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.133) id 4DA2FC0B0077F745; Wed, 4 May 2011 22:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 22:51:05 +0100 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100924 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Brennan , User Questions References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 21:51:08 -0000 On 04/05/2011 20:53, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Jerry wrote: > > Chris, when I have had to do major rebuilds, I have found >> "portmanager" to be the best tool. It just seems to work. In any case, >> if it were me, I would clean out the /usr/ports/distfiles directory, >> update your ports tree, and then update you OS. When you are finished >> with that fun chore, run; "portmanager -u -l -y -f". Depending on the >> number of ports installed, it might take some time though. Obviously, >> you need portmanager installed first. By the way, if you know you need >> a distfile installed first, something like diablo-jdk or diablo-jre >> that require you to have the distfile all ready in >> the /usr/ports/distfiles directory prior to attempting to build the >> port, then do that prior to updating your system and running >> portmanager. >> > > The problem here (as I have previously mentioned and further discussed in my > reply to Andrew Clarke) is that the most of the ports won't rebuild for > various reasons. I'm pretty handy, but not brilliant. So instead of asking > for my hand to be held by the mailing list, I thought nuking everything I > installed from ports after moving to 8.x would be the smartest move, then > from there reinstall (from a fresh ports tree) only what I need for the > retasked purpose. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I second Jerry, portmanager is indeed a very effective tool, it's simple and thorough and probably has as good a chance of fixing ports issues as anything. Or used to, I've been trying out tinderbox so haven't used it for a year or so. If you do use portmanager there are a few tricks you can do to make it effectively unattended. However, doesn't -u -f mean rebuild all dependencies of all ports? In which case wouldn't it be just as effective and cleaner for the OP to nuke the lot and rebuild, particularly in view of the retasked purpose. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 22:11:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B46106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 22:11:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E738FC0C for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 22:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so729824yxl.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.138.234 with SMTP id a70mr2187604yhj.246.1304547070135; Wed, 04 May 2011 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s21sm724085yhn.93.2011.05.04.15.11.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 May 2011 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QPtqb3kqSz2CG5X for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 18:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:11:06 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110504181106.4ea5b8e7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> References: <20110504142626.539c2b6f@scorpio> <4DC1CA49.8060801@onetel.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: A possibly odd upgrade question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 22:11:11 -0000 On Wed, 04 May 2011 22:51:05 +0100 Chris Whitehouse articulated: > I second Jerry, portmanager is indeed a very effective tool, it's > simple and thorough and probably has as good a chance of fixing ports > issues as anything. Or used to, I've been trying out tinderbox so > haven't used it for a year or so. > > If you do use portmanager there are a few tricks you can do to make > it effectively unattended. > > However, doesn't -u -f mean rebuild all dependencies of all ports? In > which case wouldn't it be just as effective and cleaner for the OP to > nuke the lot and rebuild, particularly in view of the retasked > purpose. Yes, from the man pages it states it will rebuild all packages and their dependencies. I simply include the "l" so he would have a log file available if something did go wrong. In any case, I thought it might save him some trouble rebuilding his system. There are some ports; however, that will not build correctly unless the program is first removed from the system. Obviously not a friendly concept; however, a reality. The OP would have to remove them first I suppose before doing a force rebuild. Maybe just doing a "pkg_delete -adv" would be a better idea. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Getting the job done is no excuse for not following the rules. Corollary: Following the rules will not get the job done. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:17:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0DA106566B for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 23:17:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21C98FC15 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 23:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07E28BF for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 19:17:27 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <267B4CEEF5135C2FE0F2087E@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 23:17:29 -0000 I just got notified my new Thinkpad X220 is on it's way, and I'm thinking about the best way to use it. ;) Obviously, FreeBSD with ZFS is on top of the list. (De-dup and compression on my space-limited laptop? Yes, please.) Some relevant vitals (after a couple of upgrades that are also on their way): 6GB of RAM 250GB 2.5in HDD 40GB mSATA SSD I'm planning on installing the patched version of 8.2, with the patches for ZFS v28. My idea at this point is to use the main HDD as the primary drive, with the SSD partitioned into a small[1] ZIL-device and a larger cache drive. Since it's a SSD, I don't think disk contention should be an issue for that use, and it should speed up both reads and writes. It might even reduce the amount of main-disk use that happens. (Or at least, make it happen in short bursts, and let the drive idle in between.) I might still upgrade that HDD to something larger than stock. I could go to an SSD there too (and it's on a SATA III connection, so it could be a *faster* SSD), but I think I'm more likely to go with more space if I decide to upgrade. Obviously, I'm not afraid of a weird config in this case. ;) I'm also not trying to optimize hard for space, or for any specific use-case: I tend to use a laptop for light-duty when I'm not traveling, then more heavy-duty (as well as watching movies, etc) during occasional traveling. The idea here is to let ZFS do the disk optimization. It'll probably slow down my boot times from what could be possible, but I'm hoping ZFS will do things like move a movie I'm *currently* watching to the cache drive, and let the machine shut down the hard drive. Two things I'm *not* sure what the best choices for are the swap partition, and the boot sector. Swap could be on the HDD (slow, reduces my apparent disk-space), on the SSD (fast, reduces my most valuable disk space), or in ZFS (doesn't use dedicated space, but has stability issues under heavy load). Of course I may not ever *need* much swap, as I have a fair amount of RAM. (And I don't care about crash dumps on this box.) The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector. Otherwise, I'm leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning that, and I'm less likely to pull it out. Or, of course, there may be other considerations that I've overlooked in the rest. So, I'm looking for wisdom, or other thoughts people have. ;) Daniel T. Staal [1] As per: ZIL devices will never use more than 1/2 of RAM, at absolute max, and in most cases will use significantly less. Fully upgraded, this machine supports 8GB of RAM, so a 4GB ZIL device would be plenty in all cases, and would probably be overkill. --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 4 23:31:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C23C1065675 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 23:31:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geoff@apro.com.au) Received: from mail.ricksure.com.au (mail.ricksure.com.au [203.98.89.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E771F8FC08 for ; Wed, 4 May 2011 23:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 171.78.233.220.static.exetel.com.au [220.233.78.171] by mail.ricksure.com.au with SMTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:31:14 +1000 From: Geoff Roberts Organization: Australian Projects To: David Brodbeck , Free BSD Questions list Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:31:10 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32-31-generic; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201105050931.10562.geoff@apro.com.au> X-Declude-Sender: geoff@apro.com.au [220.233.78.171] X-Declude-Spoolname: 39778244.eml X-Declude-RefID: X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.6.35 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm" X-Declude-Scan: Outgoing Score [0] at 09:31:18 on 05 May 2011 X-Declude-Tests: Whitelisted X-Country-Chain: X-Declude-Code: 0 X-Declude-Recipcount: 2 Organization: Declude, Inc. X-Helo: ubuntutest-01.localnet X-RevDNS: Cc: Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: geoff@apro.com.au List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 23:31:25 -0000 Hi David and others, Thanks for the feedback. On Thu, 5 May 2011 07:24:13 am David Brodbeck wrote: > The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't > cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than > the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower > if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. Was this easy to measure, and how did you measure this - dropped packets on the bridge interface? Kind regards, Geoff -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 00:12:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF15C1065698 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 00:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FD6F8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 00:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 May 2011 23:45:48 -0000 Received: from f051082074.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO bytebox) [78.51.82.74] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 05 May 2011 01:45:48 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jX6g2+3/j64Y9kbRFRBbojEeTPwYBl0M1QkO459 LsOfnPhdjAQ1nu Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 01:45:56 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: pwnedomina@gmail.com Message-Id: <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: 'NB5d@1]I],; 5f]D0Fw?; g&E6i|{1:sF'aA|FuxoBv8CQLNWai(8%vgK9RiTO}Zz\yEafdV GZ-/g%=?L6uwChNkpYQ3yaPv`#sH@sM(uy}HqNi''HAi!rxx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 00:12:30 -0000 On Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: >> On Wed, 04 May 2011 21:01:28 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >>> after installation of rox-filler i noticed i cant select menu item from >>> fluxbox? is there anyway to circumvent this? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> Hi, >> >> you go in rox options->compatibility then select the option "Pass all >> backdrop mouse click to window manager" and/or you may have to select the >> "Black Box Root menu hack", too. >> After that your fluxbox menue should work again. >> >> cheers >> >also, how can i personalise my Eterm console in order to show a string >choosen by me? eg. >[user@user:~]->cmd here Hi, please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that answered your question. The look of your command prompt depends on what shell you use e.g bash export PS1='\[\033[32m\][\@][@ \W)$\[\033[0m\]' in your .bashrc would make your prompt look like [01:40 am][@ ~)$ in green color. Just use your g00gle foo, and you will sure find a lot of examples for your kind of shell, to customize your command prompt. Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------- - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - - enfalten; - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - Please send plain ASCII text only. - - Please reply below quoted text section. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 03:13:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E24106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 03:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3A08FC12 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 03:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so2075511iwn.13 for ; Wed, 04 May 2011 20:13:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.65.75 with SMTP id h11mr802257ibi.149.1304563858681; Wed, 04 May 2011 19:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.23.68 with HTTP; Wed, 4 May 2011 19:50:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:50:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vscNclcuFC3HIGSSd8tnWUspme4 Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: "Daniel C. Dowse" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: pwnedomina@gmail.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 03:13:31 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: > On =A0Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +0000, pwnedomina = wrote: >>Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: [...] > please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the on= e that > answered your question. > > Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault entirely. It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it beats me, but it's really annoying. I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default address and not the other way around as it is here! Best, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 08:40:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F131065672 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 08:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3389C8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 08:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1969435wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 01:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vxj5K/rXZzVIs35vJXze5+SaeIagfPRF0KCr4FNlCio=; b=KiETUs7l+cRNNYkAXavKkvZTlbvCWNsnzdRIFebQZyTL42645awg8lUvCYOTx74/I6 BVXq8blCGtBltStQYZrDHJQOhp+c7XjzsY6CZUyYRwdibywBT8AFGFrgcNnBD5bAWIH2 m0JQ20k+ioHxwFe+B7HPE5TZ3AT7KB/Ax3FV4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nUNpK9X0p5p0+b7ipbscokff25Zyjh1/fm/6G+kZpDLue0fJrEpN2p+60xsf3R51zF AbacnjWJQIlrud1z5HfL+PBP7xR6IxBJm7JDJr7tVq1L01ok6uDwTZD3o1pwugVRNpyU hRodAGPem96QxKlIf6GW6/I/k+/+qIyhJ90kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.7.66 with SMTP id z44mr2099411wes.100.1304584833003; Thu, 05 May 2011 01:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.15.73 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 01:40:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <267B4CEEF5135C2FE0F2087E@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> References: <267B4CEEF5135C2FE0F2087E@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:40:32 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 08:40:34 -0000 On 5 May 2011 00:17, Daniel Staal wrote: > > I just got notified my new Thinkpad X220 is on it's way, and I'm thinking > about the best way to use it. ;) Obviously, FreeBSD with ZFS is on top of > the list. (De-dup and compression on my space-limited laptop? Yes, > please.) > > Some relevant vitals (after a couple of upgrades that are also on their > way): > 6GB of RAM > 250GB 2.5in HDD > 40GB mSATA SSD > > I'm planning on installing the patched version of 8.2, with the patches for > ZFS v28. My idea at this point is to use the main HDD as the primary drive, > with the SSD partitioned into a small[1] ZIL-device and a larger cache > drive. Since it's a SSD, I don't think disk contention should be an issue > for that use, and it should speed up both reads and writes. It might even > reduce the amount of main-disk use that happens. (Or at least, make it > happen in short bursts, and let the drive idle in between.) > > I might still upgrade that HDD to something larger than stock. I could go > to an SSD there too (and it's on a SATA III connection, so it could be a > *faster* SSD), but I think I'm more likely to go with more space if I decide > to upgrade. > > Obviously, I'm not afraid of a weird config in this case. ;) I'm also not > trying to optimize hard for space, or for any specific use-case: I tend to > use a laptop for light-duty when I'm not traveling, then more heavy-duty (as > well as watching movies, etc) during occasional traveling. The idea here is > to let ZFS do the disk optimization. It'll probably slow down my boot times > from what could be possible, but I'm hoping ZFS will do things like move a > movie I'm *currently* watching to the cache drive, and let the machine shut > down the hard drive. > > Two things I'm *not* sure what the best choices for are the swap partition, > and the boot sector. Swap could be on the HDD (slow, reduces my apparent > disk-space), on the SSD (fast, reduces my most valuable disk space), or in > ZFS (doesn't use dedicated space, but has stability issues under heavy > load). Of course I may not ever *need* much swap, as I have a fair amount > of RAM. (And I don't care about crash dumps on this box.) > > The boot sector doesn't really matter as much; if I go with a dedicated > swap partition that will probably also hold the boot sector. Otherwise, I'm > leaning towards the SSD, as I'm already planning on partitioning that, and > I'm less likely to pull it out. > > Or, of course, there may be other considerations that I've overlooked in > the rest. So, I'm looking for wisdom, or other thoughts people have. ;) > > Daniel T. Staal > > [1] As per: > < > http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Separate_Log_Devices > > > ZIL devices will never use more than 1/2 of RAM, at absolute max, and in > most cases will use significantly less. Fully upgraded, this machine > supports 8GB of RAM, so a 4GB ZIL device would be plenty in all cases, and > would probably be overkill. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you > are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use > the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will > expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, > whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of > local copyright law. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I think you may be agonizing to much. You would have to to seriously bad to make it slow and even then its a relative thing. Giving it 4GB ZIL, 8 GB swap, and 28 gb l2arc will make it rapid and cover you for most things. Putting the swap on the 250 gig drive wont make much difference though as like you said you wont be paging to disk much Put the bootblocks etc on the hd. They are only 64kb anyhow so will make no noticable difference to the boot time. Also if your ssd dies you wont have an unusable system (apart from a zil issue maybe) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 09:00:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAD2106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F648FC1D for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix, from userid 125) id A2C554179C3; Thu, 5 May 2011 11:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A78417971 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:44:14 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.2.2 hp9.esiee.fr 98A78417971 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1304585054; bh=1QOp7riBGjY9I9nya2rTFF5oUCalox5Ua6LTaj4Q8AQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fqQq1Xksa3Rls83xUT3jKlN5S1hCSLOtd58qQwcDSf9J8QTlH3qArxuiH33onavmu 33HKmq7sgpijqs6nNABF9eiEwEZJyZqgSTIRbkzWVNWzmaJapCjWrGxSNCWUMqW3+U LPBJkH9Ya67AIUMfS4jT8NEftLS3TW7f1bAuFxWQ= Received: from mail (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EE20105443A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76589105441E for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC2635E.5010506@esiee.fr> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 10:44:14 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Problem when swapping two IP addresses machines X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:00:23 -0000 Hello Yesterday I swapped the IP addresses of two machines ( new and old mail server ). After I rebooted the two machines I was unable to join our DNS server ( even to ping it ) I suspect the DNS was keeping the IP / MAC address mapping of the two swapped machines , so I flushed the ARP cache but it was still impossible to join the DNS from the concerned machines. I have to reboot the DNS Server to be able to ping it and use it again. The DNS server runs FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4. Thanks for any infos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 09:07:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC83C106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F7F8FC1C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 09:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so1989885wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 02:07:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=p0ud910pbAPGoH9MrTCz6ydFDaLU5G+t9ocAfKEiarA=; b=dQ2e2zWKYhkRrfBwmc6rAXP3xoR7omLp7yQQ4XavMohnGn7PNEQmSNwELSPP42nG4p +DSomSrOBoWJ3UmwU4g5LtXcPAQlwzCGv+uMdhnM+wbbLmIvY3VqnYIfSIPl0YMkMlJW EG1AmWzhVJr+DpenBHIxtJ6LASAIzqunBmDgI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=EGofOtZ09bT+H2pFdJ9lumrTVuHAVPklyRVkg1DuErQ28ksb8F8WnYpd0H2ncAvupJ /WEnH2DsSyYIqVBN3MyP6Tcw5ZnC2SJODN2IVKXHMEMS2Tn1BNPU1rEffcN5YjujgdZv BbGxxTgLRCXiGjRij3LbqgViM2F19cEFbG8bI= Received: by 10.227.198.17 with SMTP id em17mr2317406wbb.4.1304584950530; Thu, 05 May 2011 01:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-111-248.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm1199794wbb.31.2011.05.05.01.42.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 01:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alejandro Imass References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 May 2011 11:20:08 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Daniel C. Dowse" Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 09:07:23 -0000 Em 05-05-2011 02:50, Alejandro Imass escreveu: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: >> On Wed, 04 May 2011 23:33:18 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >>> Em 04-05-2011 20:49, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: > [...] > >> please always check that the recipient is the mailing list and not the one that >> answered your question. >> >> > Yeah, this is a pain in the ass, and it's really not the OP's fault > entirely. It's a simple mailman config option but I think it's an > idiosyncrasy thing about open lists, blah, blah, blah. The easiest way > is to ALWAYS HIT REPLY ALL, and the figure out who the mail is going > to. IMHO it should ALWAYS be the list ONLY, but many list admins use > it the way it's set-up here on the general questions list, why tf it > beats me, but it's really annoying. > > I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should > ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default > address and not the other way around as it is here! > > Best, > > -- > Alejandro Imass > ok, ive choosen "reply to all". my question now is i have setted the command prompt to "|[%n@%m:%c]%#" but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish this?| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:00:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3F9106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 12:00:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171EE8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 11:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2129307wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uhP6JRdgjaRqfXMoIxkdjSfeWYLOrmVk4RoesQ2a0Bc=; b=jWm5SVl4k13cf71yTtIwNf7p//F0W54Jj28DJOuLnXPeOnFlD0aPXIuqQgFeRtJIUL bJ9yjZN76ke3ee9OiymUJKXuEIwQyqn7Y8P1YPViTSf/DQ2v+dg+She/NoQO5mW9RMhm tO/EXybgfIXwwRao3OGo+AT/vQfnSzN7QsqpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pcP6aE7DxDYOYCThZx0N7JXRjg89iniXNF8cXz9vajOGv/SYG3VHhJRW0JEIhjgAGN enko+XtUh6TmzGUY4MZQcB08UdlkuyTmB8QJi9V10A7gWrbgwjScmk0QgqNrdf66mAqd yW6izWV+r4xnHa9K1I9mFab0FSz52AkTtCyzU= Received: by 10.227.207.144 with SMTP id fy16mr2492061wbb.46.1304596798799; Thu, 05 May 2011 04:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-181-208.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.181.208]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z13sm1305545wbd.63.2011.05.05.04.59.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 04:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC2910B.8080403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 13:59:07 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110429 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Asus N70SV does not boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 12:00:00 -0000 Hello, We are trying to boot the amd64 8.2-RELEASE cd and it get stucks at the end of: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA5, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed Nothing happens, even five minutes later.. The motherboard is on a SIS chipset, do you have any clue on this? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 12:56:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895B4106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 12:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479138FC13 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 12:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-56.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.56]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D943CA19; Thu, 5 May 2011 14:37:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p45CbmFJ001570; Thu, 5 May 2011 14:37:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 14:37:48 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pwnedomina Message-Id: <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 12:56:29 -0000 On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: > ok, ive choosen "reply to all". my question now is > i have setted the command prompt to > "|[%n@%m:%c]%#" > but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish > this?| It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct? Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in /ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting): set promptchars = "%#" set prompt = "%n@%m:%~%# " This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after the prompt character and the absense of the brackets. You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh. At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look at this: set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer to "man csh", section "Special shell variables" and scroll down to "prompt" - there are some more special settings to customize the prompt. It mentions "%{string%}" for escape sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color. Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended? If yes, use this: set prompt = "|[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better readability. Remove it if desired. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 14:36:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0E9106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D33D8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 14:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.magehandbook.com (rackstore.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.100]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27237A1D; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 152.121.16.254 (SquirrelMail authenticated user daniel) by www.magehandbook.com with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:36:25 -0400 Message-ID: <8cd336f351c721655add990a39d54189.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: References: <267B4CEEF5135C2FE0F2087E@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:36:25 -0400 From: "Daniel Staal" To: "krad" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Laptop Multi-HD partitioning advice (ZFS) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 14:36:26 -0000 > I think you may be agonizing to much. You would have to to seriously bad > to make it slow and even then its a relative thing. > > Giving it 4GB ZIL, 8 GB swap, and 28 gb l2arc will make it rapid and cover > you for most things. Putting the swap on the 250 gig drive wont make much > difference though as like you said you wont be paging to disk much > > Put the bootblocks etc on the hd. They are only 64kb anyhow so will make > no noticable difference to the boot time. Also if your ssd dies you wont > have an unusable system (apart from a zil issue maybe) I know I'm completely over-analyzing this. ;) But where's the fun in computers if you can't over-analyze something? I know any of the ways will *work*. (Or can be made to.) I'm just asking for the wisdom and the opinions of the internets on whether anything could be considered 'better'. So: Thanks for your thoughts. (One note: Loss of the ZIL drive should not be a problem under the patched ZFS. As of ZFS v19, the ZIL can be lost or removed without affecting the filesystem. Prior to that once you had defined a ZIL drive you needed to always have a working ZIL drive.) Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 15:13:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB34A106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334DF8FC17 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so2215523wyf.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/R7EqzI3X0ebFg4h3Qo0R71JLfFBLKNLhcQfiynI9cI=; b=KqYJnvoyVDmreAT9ObmB4VzLOesPwhgUXjEg/H5OVf5jHIOv79CmdhwrnkwznC6RS9 ZFqYL4p8x+uGU4TQ/FSXtrez2EicU1u69S4+UTV+G8vk9eeh9aX3FXTBsR293bQNgXXy CiEYlPClqh21p2wpYEsxTSnQwDkN+4qe7Jy90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Cy9RxwVFnky5/6TYKg5bRnqUKtiE0xVSh7pA6hQM/FkqK9/O+wP/o6PAyz9fDs/Yhv MuXO28HSqpLFfFe4NjAHJAxbBLqw+VDruqNzsz9fceMP7EhnSV9xaC0/AmTAA751v3Lx HcJF2V69xSh3lbbY/Yx+FKjInHzutITgqRhaU= Received: by 10.227.182.79 with SMTP id cb15mr2680211wbb.49.1304608420697; Thu, 05 May 2011 08:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm1417761wbc.10.2011.05.05.08.13.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 08:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 15:13:42 -0000 Em 05-05-2011 12:37, Polytropon escreveu: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:43:04 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> ok, ive choosen "reply to all". my question now is >> i have setted the command prompt to >> "|[%n@%m:%c]%#" >> but i intend to place color red in the [] brackets, how can i accomplish >> this?| > It looks like you are configuring a C shell prompt, correct? > Make sure you have the following settings in ~/.cshrc (or in > /ect/csh.cshrc, if you want a global setting): > > set promptchars = "%#" > set prompt = "%n@%m:%~%# " > > This would give you the STANDARD prompt - note the space after > the prompt character and the absense of the brackets. > > You want red color - I'm not sure if this is supported in csh. > At least I know that bold printing is possible. Have a look > at this: > > set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " > > This uses %B and %b to switch on and off bold printing. Refer > to "man csh", section "Special shell variables" and scroll > down to "prompt" - there are some more special settings to > customize the prompt. It mentions "%{string%}" for escape > sequences and can MAYBE be used for changing color. > > Is the pipe character at the beginning of the prompt intended? > If yes, use this: > > set prompt = "|[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " > > I've kept the space at the end of the prompt for better > readability. Remove it if desired. > > > according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support colors, how can i turn this prompt set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " with red color on brackets and white color on text? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:00:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AB71065674 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9648FC14 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so956843ewy.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.51.20 with SMTP id a20mr1326732eec.213.1304614820028; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.250.142.186] In-Reply-To: <201105050931.10562.geoff@apro.com.au> References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> <201105050931.10562.geoff@apro.com.au> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:00:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 17:00:22 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Geoff Roberts wrote: > Was this easy to measure, and how did you measure this - dropped packets on > the bridge interface? I don't remember. It's been too long since I last tried it. Dropped packets would be a good measure, though, assuming the bridge interface does that kind of accounting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:20:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8944106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A1D8FC13 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8CC3CE08; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:20:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p45HKlXo001525; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:20:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:20:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pwnedomina Message-Id: <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 17:20:50 -0000 On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: > according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support > colors, how can i turn this prompt > > set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " > > with red color on brackets and white color on text? Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll easily find the answer, especially if you consult the section http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts and then scroll down to "TC Shells" - keep in mind that FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh are the same program). I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page you mentioned and found that set prompt = "%{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# " works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and %B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets. In the section http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2 you'll find a reference for the other colors "programming codes". You could, for example, use a different color for root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific shell accounts on your system. You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout (here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However, not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking, but can do colors... and so on. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:30:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B52106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6F48FC1B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:30:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwk4 with SMTP id 4so5544419wwk.1 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0I2xxtwwKnI4Fd23WhB3VQDrhRJyyEyBM7x2DWLWuSw=; b=HIzX7PU/GiavCNd4XUjJ8JnG1mUkvZ4LxLykOEzYHqty3eDg4FJja2Oo6Yp6qjbyU0 mBaXutcRiYFu/cqzrOPs9aYmU3Aqhq3sAG1Hw8RI6029aBBIqE5h8NMIJXRqdaZJkXXQ GHOKz5L1uaSwbpM2C97Z4GZhbSW/f/PoZB1N0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a+hDK3rUbdPR4q+x+Gbv2WrjJDGHH7QigAwdbiYmIJeHzh7pkDhejd9tBuZJgxEQRL w58SYKHUtJs7dbfoRDsxC8KQezz84lFR/71zuNn39x1iMbRwTfTNAQaUnf8zHQH0ZJOs Do2M6Ult6sLtBUknpHNVyyEujIrhsMzbO5t1o= Received: by 10.227.197.205 with SMTP id el13mr2827718wbb.84.1304616640583; Thu, 05 May 2011 10:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t16sm484626wbg.40.2011.05.05.10.30.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 10:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC2ECF3.9010403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 18:31:15 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 17:30:43 -0000 Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support >> colors, how can i turn this prompt >> >> set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " >> >> with red color on brackets and white color on text? > Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll > easily find the answer, especially if you consult the > section > > http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts > > and then scroll down to "TC Shells" - keep in mind that > FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh > are the same program). > > I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page > you mentioned and found that > > set prompt = "%{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# " > > works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and > %B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets. > > In the section > > http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2 > > you'll find a reference for the other colors "programming > codes". You could, for example, use a different color for > root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific > shell accounts on your system. > > You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout > (here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However, > not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them > as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do > unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but > can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking, > but can do colors... and so on. > > > the example you supply worked fine. thanks for helping. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 17:39:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A73106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85CFC8FC16 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 May 2011 17:39:33 -0000 Received: from adsl-40.91.140.94.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.194]) [91.140.94.40] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu001) with SMTP; 05 May 2011 19:39:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/qUoNjeIrqBrX6x7uGSoWobgW5ZgrhJ+Wfo3XW7H j89CSGCRERm3nj Message-ID: <4DC2E0CA.9020902@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:39:22 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Brodbeck References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Kevin Wilcox , Free BSD Questions list , geoff@apro.com.au Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 17:39:36 -0000 On 5/5/2011 12:24 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: > The problem I've always found with bridged solutions is they don't > cope well under heavy traffic loads when the VPN link is slower than > the LANs they're bridging between. And the VPN link is usually slower > if it's over a WAN. The link tends to get saturated. There is no inbuilt reason why a L2 VPN is more easily saturated than a L3 VPN. After all protocols doing bulk transfers should - and mostly - use TCP which autotunes the rate of sent packets. And TCP should be able to saturate the lower-bandwidth link of the whole path. That's normal and desirable. Some care must be taken with the broadcast and multicast traffic which goes through the L2 VPN. Just my 2 cents, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 18:42:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC8C1065670 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 18:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9716B8FC0C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 18:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2539778wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 11:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=H8TOrTsKrwqD4Aoj+EYPruF99ektAIvvMw8QFXX66Sc=; b=aYSS/kZveaGK/usBZnkZoifJ8xM5wiBmcQIrGHp7UE76TLdFx7BKA1LJFe/m+9SZLk LVTovZhI0iznxkImhZ6Bfd2oaPHZ21mI3lkunLxduwHYmJgHdtqpe3Hv1ne8pmo+aM3h 0BEhFb5H+SU8cTxSrydXmhezWAlK1P+a/h9gg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xTcfAHF9T9f/D/3soqJNwvuFfw9FBPNp2vbaNEwtE5PJYBu/jAXs7hJtgRykBKYMN/ I9Rao4w8p8wqThGmGj3OFgiGz8zFk3cqiPDRPzgc5LaEjws03eK9rurXXnUioOTwpJXz ieXSShiYMC69IJbHYUgODEqE5/Bg8q4OJ2mWU= Received: by 10.227.207.196 with SMTP id fz4mr1152249wbb.42.1304620918877; Thu, 05 May 2011 11:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b20sm1528343wbb.16.2011.05.05.11.41.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 11:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC2FDA8.8030407@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 18:42:01 -0000 Em 05-05-2011 17:20, Polytropon escreveu: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:14:15 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> according to this page http://understudy.net/custom.html C shell support >> colors, how can i turn this prompt >> >> set prompt = "[%B%n@%m:%~%b]%# " >> >> with red color on brackets and white color on text? > Have a look at the page you mentioned above and you'll > easily find the answer, especially if you consult the > section > > http://understudy.net/custom.html#color_prompts > > and then scroll down to "TC Shells" - keep in mind that > FreeBSD's C shell is a TC shell (/bin/csh and /bin/tcsh > are the same program). > > I've tried the example (on FreeBSD 7) from the web page > you mentioned and found that > > set prompt = "%{\033[31m%}[%{\033[0m%}%B%n@%m:%~%b%{\033[31m%}]%{\033[0m%}%# " > > works as intended. %{\033[31m%} switches red color on, and > %B/%b applies bold face for the text inside the brackets. > > In the section > > http://understudy.net/custom.html#table2 > > you'll find a reference for the other colors "programming > codes". You could, for example, use a different color for > root and nonroot shells, or change color depending on specific > shell accounts on your system. > > You can also use other attributes like %S/%s for standout > (here: inverse) mode, or %U/%u for underline mode. However, > not every terminal (emulator) is capable of displaying them > as intended, for example the text mode console cannot do > unterlining, vt100 can do blinking _and_ underlining, but > can't do colors, xterm can do underlining, but _not_ blinking, > but can do colors... and so on. > > > i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:58:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC435106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:58:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA998FC08 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so2482023wyf.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+AY0HERi0vLRtPjeF7AV8orARDndTHxvdagJQDBpDyY=; b=l0jIgCRdFRqGxZHA+4vXHnrZjrDVkN2E4/DKrjOoydyUG7yL4Uj2N9zX72kf8loR26 5JhbE6cPuA8fOCNN0Vj3RMMwyb7aSorWLYD8895Dg1QfiGx3omIelOkD2oXPYI+w34WD KlX2OoXkG1fyM/hXDKAgpC2mxQk1v+qsQIhYk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wKwtN4baGt2eod+uvNn+LUKX0m4HG6X2joVysokAV+wGjXA/HcTbGf11ICuwCA4NCj bUazcZnJI/ocsnQwyYYEsTCGy+g5k8sJjOg9eS1P7D6UAR6lOBM6oxlnEVWh9KosvtFm vMoUljy5IxKvdFkgbfpO7mjEXb2GSZG5A4plM= Received: by 10.227.208.77 with SMTP id gb13mr2911744wbb.43.1304625505111; Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.nonspace ([217.171.129.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ed10sm1563844wbb.32.2011.05.05.12.58.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 12:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC3015D.7060500@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:58:21 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110503 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ld-elf.so.1 Shared object "libkipi.so.7" not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 19:58:26 -0000 Hello, I'm having hard times with digikam. It used to work properly but then, after one of the updates (I'm not able to track it) it stopped. When I try to run digikam I'm getting this error message: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libkipi.so.7" not found, required by "digikam" I've tried to rebuild digikam and all dependencies but it's still the same. My ports tree is updated. I'm running FreeBSD 8.2-R on amd64 and digikam-kde4 port. Any ideas please? Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 20:15:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036F0106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:15:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F9C8FC14 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so1012191eyg.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.51.20 with SMTP id a20mr1415378eec.213.1304626509100; Thu, 05 May 2011 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 13:15:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.250.142.186] In-Reply-To: <4DC2E0CA.9020902@gmx.com> References: <201105040519.56695.geoff@apro.com.au> <4DC2E0CA.9020902@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:15:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: Free BSD Questions list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Can I bridge the same subnet across a VPN? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:15:11 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > There is no inbuilt reason why a L2 VPN is more easily saturated > than a L3 VPN. I disagree slightly. With L2 you have broadcasts and non-routable protocols being sent over the wire. This is fortunately becoming less of an issue than it used to be, but it can (for example) be a problem for certain kinds of Windows networking. I have had severe congestion problems in the past when bridging wired interfaces to wireless. In general I think adding a slow hop that's invisible to clients is asking for trouble, but that's not to say it can't work well in certain environments. The main thing to remember is just because the clients can pretend it's a LAN doesn't mean you can. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 19:57:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730EB106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E6398FC17 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.2] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 19:44:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 May 2011 19:44:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 445075.29892.bm@omp1002.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65446 invoked by uid 60001); 5 May 2011 19:44:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304624676; bh=C9TPzNR65Sypz0tkNezZlyEd/1tdOWfCxO2DguHI9sI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A+o7QPwu0OJQvHHQbJE5vdFPN+TQkTfJgBdrPM6e1ucYmhlOn3cLBxcY9UMK3fhWGocskPA0F8Irg7MOzB3Jgoxq5zd0KFS/HXXUmAqhC5ZTNQCaxYsa+tX/vaF0o3smhM5/XgxaqoP32DIW5ptezPM4BVenhRQh69jq9bCH0EM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CshKfmlPMxstwuhGAflc7PHE4Fo2DruUCEpPQqk0AnHy2EGSWNg5tnRgRcLTjyTZXWGadgagGF3RmEa0GPsQ+3Ik5vK45Mmsuf19kEKXpnW7blbAwtWBInvDM1fD1YbqqDs27kAHHKPbMqVkSZp8H2m3SEzK7MFt5RCSC4Fdwh8=; Message-ID: <922394.62111.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AVNefQkVM1nhEjuDDfGvp60yeimroL8jgSC7sZ.CWezLSUf tFQaxUg35tQ6JVXOXMzNzZmod2sNlIUcwb54agyaERRnoUzpdz3PMSUV4jIN wJvwHzObJUG5y44tF1XeMTMeBQh5JW5rhbXounRAv1FyACSSdSm..gfxzb5R GLHzQcIknE48w0ICUe2DZSd.YkegAqy3fYK61q5.gdM2lLkUtXlPsSutpmwD sCTTgDKgpCGgzM2784c.LTG1frSbcEyNkcIL25H57UbMhXk_WRQ0c7HZvonE wkG2r8U6AoxXxyJfheZOWf4I7w9S.wxoXs.DlfyjW1Rw9PbXGk5cU04JubB_ xjA49vhOah3QqBNYUxD.nyK..vBaWUt_VGQoUzxMlvVEFVtxG8WxjuV6D95f cV21fRf58Jty9 Received: from [200.80.219.194] by web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2011 12:44:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:33:24 +0000 Cc: Subject: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 19:57:40 -0000 Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my= home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop= and one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database serve= r.=0A=0AI must add, the server only have one network card.=0A=0AI would lik= e to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall for the w= hole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then = how? could you point me to some howto?.=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeonardo = M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 21:06:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D427A106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 21:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1F48FC0A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 21:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy1 with SMTP id 1so1031252ewy.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 14:06:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.6.10 with SMTP id 10mr1365357eem.117.1304627722717; Thu, 05 May 2011 13:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 13:35:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.250.142.186] In-Reply-To: References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:35:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 21:06:54 -0000 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: > I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should > ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default > address and not the other way around as it is here! This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting. See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one side of the argument, and http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side. My advice is to just accept that some mailing list administrators will choose one side of this particular schism, and others will choose the other. Arguing the issue rarely gets anywhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:44:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7C106564A for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6538FC15 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p45MXQIS085602 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:33:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p45MXPhg001333 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p45MXOp8001330 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 00:33:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Fri, 06 May 2011 00:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Subject: about ulpt speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 22:44:44 -0000 we recently bought kyocera 2020D printer. There are USB and LAN versions. We got cheaper USB as it is connected 1 meter from server anyway. But seems there are some problems with USB ulpt seems to work fine, device is connected at 480Mbps but 2 page 5 megabyte postscript file is transmitted 10-15 seconds. On Kyocera 3900DN which have EXACTLY same internal processor, same amount of RAM, but LAN interface and even similar printing mechanism and nearly same look - same file is accepted below one second to printer and soon it is printing it. Larger postscript files are transmitted longer. I am not sure but seems it is not printer problem. Any ideas what to check/change in ulpt? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:50:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E1D106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCFF8FC08 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:50:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3249828bwz.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QU8I7QEXcRlgzmkiIzNwILnXv+CpFkLPvEKoaRremy0=; b=x03jwj7PXnQg0acNexxKi1zdk0OGouZ8dh6rsX0kQZ47Xalapg1gu8kWkwRB6dnwUS zqdV+r72xXtMLnMwypEsArlAfgsSKabRgqLmuAkUpCId9TTV0VMg2Ca1L0gmzBnuuzo8 ghOVQ/vyrvIQdoJREEyA8u8eNwfl3SRmRVYns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kbcREXTia2YvA9L6qLIwx8AHdLEPSLlt9iCb6YvtLawFm88/9td+rhwgn33kQDtX/b VV3VZVX7IzgJqt4n4AU4LIlaFku5k0bhrlgLlh1zIFFhMXi88Snt7sHzkqkZwmfKB18B YySlHtBUtbcB7/jSWB8CYQAQICU+swlv9HBmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.74 with SMTP id n10mr1067498bkw.33.1304635828696; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 22:50:30 -0000 Dear all, I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it following advice in handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ran # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install # portupgrade -af # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade then # freebsd-update install Tried to do this: # portupgrade -f ruby # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db # portupgrade -af Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again # freebsd-update install and had nothing more to do :( I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : # portupgrade -arRp will this prompt me for customizations? Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions. I am taking the plunge a little further. Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am trying to learn more and setup the firewall. I set up the simple example setup by Polytropon and most is working. My freebsd version has moved to FreeBSD 8.2 [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 22:54:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3927106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72E08FC18 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so3151758iyj.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:54:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.215.93 with SMTP id hd29mr1750869ibb.174.1304636062174; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.231.23.68 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 15:54:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:54:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AuTia0Q93-eiWaXVmyYtE37DFik Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 22:54:24 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:35 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Alejandro Imass wrote: >> I wish someone could clearly explain why the reply-to field should >> ONLY have the mailing-list address, or at least have as the default >> address and not the other way around as it is here! > > This is one of the all-time great religious wars of the internet, on > par with vi vs. Emacs and top-posting vs. bottom-posting. > > See http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-harmful.html for one > side of the argument, and > http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html for the other side. > Man, that's hilarious! Using the same rhetoric but backwards! Very cool read... and I was even kinda shy to ask, I mean so many years on lists and I'd thought I had heard something on this respect but never imagined it was actually a religious point. Thanks again, -- Alejandro From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:33:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DCC106566C for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AA18FC1E for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6C31E7F1; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p45NXr74007417; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:33:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 01:33:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 23:33:57 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Tried to do this: > # portupgrade -f ruby > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > # portupgrade -af > > Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again I think "customizations" refers to the "make config" screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction that _nobody_ likes. :-) > I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : > > # portupgrade -arRp > > will this prompt me for customizations? The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have already been built using the port's default options). However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade will install the port from source (so make sure your ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there is a "make config" interaction. The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you would use "make install"). The "decision tree" is as follows: Port can be configured? Yes. Port has already been configured? Yes. Build it with that options. No. Ask for options. Then build it with that options. No. Build port. This applies if there is no package (which you require with the -P parameter to portupgrade). Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for the system and the installed applications correctly. There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager). The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade perform a "pkg_add-like upgrade" the binary way. Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps: 1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update) 2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap) 3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade) As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take the place of the "with *" suggested above, but I think this is the way you intend to go. Just as an example, "make config-recursive" allows you to do all the config screens in one run, one after each other, and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used without any further questions. See "man ports" for details about the several build targets; also see "man portupgrade" of other options you might need to create a non-interactive way of upgrading your installed ports. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:44:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD041065670 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7610B8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3285344bwz.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:44:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ru99kDvGDPZOu3sLo/HIvCJzkZxjcRjb9EwHCPmHz3k=; b=D6nMlCGXmTBSnaG1fnT6eb3SJZtddNctQx48651Em2Z6ULBP+KcWnqQGYqw58hW0V2 qnBWBGuR9jMV/PZkyaRFExGi8Kr4HfADClmFPhLBSPu0MzhEPvF6iymCfzknEJFbvqlD 5/bCRg3pSmSgTlZllXZcn0OjFxqCE/PpA5A7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aeafdbGK0/IAsTx859h7viKf+OoFjEM3lhEwDv8g6uFUjfsTlMio9Iso1nDwYtuDeS pfGoE5OtNlah3mG1fWmI/4iySgmUyIa11S2/B/mZ4s7CL43uOvLw1SpB+YnpXgAclHxg occNno1CMe4kuDox2u6mx2SDJqJ3JtTmFFWTo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.70 with SMTP id n6mr2843571bka.87.1304639098234; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 16:44:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 23:45:00 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Tried to do this: >> # portupgrade -f ruby >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db >> # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db >> # portupgrade -af >> >> Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again > > I think "customizations" refers to the "make config" > screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction > that _nobody_ likes. :-) > Yes these are the ones :) I have encountered two/three days of these :( This is why I am asking. > > >> I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : >> >> # portupgrade -arRp >> >> will this prompt me for customizations? > > The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary > packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have > already been built using the port's default options). > However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade > will install the port from source (so make sure your > ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there > is a "make config" interaction. > > The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that > reflects the BATCH=3Dyes option for make calls (as if you > would use "make install"). > > The "decision tree" is as follows: > > Port can be configured? > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Yes. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Port has already been configured? > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Yes. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Build it w= ith that options. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Ask for op= tions. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Then build= it with that options. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Build port. > > This applies if there is no package (which you require > with the -P parameter to portupgrade). > > Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for > the system and the installed applications correctly. > There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing > with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager). > The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade > perform a "pkg_add-like upgrade" the binary way. > > Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps: > 1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update) > 2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap) > 3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade) > This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I encountered several broken ports. But I just skipped those. Ran 2 like the commands I posted. > > As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take > the place of the "with *" suggested above, but I think > this is the way you intend to go. > > Just as an example, "make config-recursive" allows you to > do all the config screens in one run, one after each other, > and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used > without any further questions. See "man ports" for details > about the several build targets; also see "man portupgrade" > of other options you might need to create a non-interactive > way of upgrading your installed ports. I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own. I have spent two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed that I would not finish :( I was not sure to proceed or not, because previously I got burned with many errors that lib????.so , ... and I saw the system working and left it at that. But now I know that to keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with security updates :) > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > Thanks for helping out. I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 23:48:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB276106566B for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcdowse@gmx.net) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EF268FC14 for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 May 2011 23:48:02 -0000 Received: from f051050065.adsl.alicedsl.de (EHLO bytebox) [78.51.50.65] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 06 May 2011 01:48:02 +0200 X-Authenticated: #30106961 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/8FbcZOeb88c8BFilJfs6zrIClrNVWhWH8Q3F5Bc YRaugFpRfQ4VxH Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 01:48:09 +0200 From: "Daniel C. Dowse" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110506014809.b4516152.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4DC2FDA8.8030407@gmail.com> References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2FDA8.8030407@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) X-Face: 'NB5d@1]I],; 5f]D0Fw?; g&E6i|{1:sF'aA|FuxoBv8CQLNWai(8%vgK9RiTO}Zz\yEafdV GZ-/g%=?L6uwChNkpYQ3yaPv`#sH@sM(uy}HqNi''HAi!rxx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: pwnedomina@gmail.com Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 23:48:04 -0000 On Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: [cut] >> >i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see >output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this? It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session command. cheers Daniel Dowse \\|// (o o) -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------- - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - - enfalten; - ----------------------------------------------------------------- - Please send plain ASCII text only. - - Please reply below quoted text section. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:01:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC82106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C9A8FC08 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2773315wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Eu36BBBMXSw0+ruvtohqO9A9vq4wZrne46Yopi7Krww=; b=GMChW+EtPypOn+r+HvgO+LUd2Mktq2VQ7QxAx6U5VFc3lhjtwORLwHxVAZXuaN9iM6 c55ZtwZ1LpGb5VqiGbUgjtDoroTJMK7p2QOuWE8cDDnQIW+n8VFbv3qPN/iRa0PvIBzR VnQsFaXz/2NXtIMLUUgMq9hLJ7v3KYobCtj54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XLhI00lNNsrfOLAZOzH/XtrDwmdi5VmipvtMiGtftKVxk7QfZ5q0Hu55UuxOkGw/m8 jtR+zFyqtHUpyF54xtM+tz01lE0tJ+WRTkgB/YixDL/cT0PFNCBgE2azrgbKuuewIvGh 8NeMkrABfPp5j5eCEiK9NHuI+rNZdE50T2W2w= Received: by 10.216.60.193 with SMTP id u43mr1781843wec.103.1304640116065; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-111-248.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.111.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd8sm1656762wbb.48.2011.05.05.17.01.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 17:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC34882.8090906@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:01:54 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Dowse" References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2FDA8.8030407@gmail.com> <20110506014809.b4516152.dcdowse@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20110506014809.b4516152.dcdowse@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 00:01:58 -0000 Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: > [cut] >> i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see >> output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this? > It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard > is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session > command. > > cheers > > Daniel Dowse > > \\|// > (o o) > -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------- > - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - > - enfalten; - > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > - Please send plain ASCII text only. - > - Please reply below quoted text section. - > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use? on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc they have show this example #!/bin/sh #log files we like to watch logfile1="/var/log/messages,white" logfile2="/var/log/kern.log,green" logfile3="/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'" logfile4="/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'" #the font we want our log to show logfont="-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1" #the deminsions of our log area geom="800x350+10+40" exec gkrellm2 -w & exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}" klipper xset r rate 195 35 #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults #start a window manager exec fluxbox #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox #exec openbox which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings? #exec wmaker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:03:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F141F106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:03:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676508FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3297457bwz.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.153.20 with SMTP id i20mr164535bkw.208.1304639997165; Thu, 05 May 2011 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.46.28 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 16:59:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Antonio Olivares Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 00:03:26 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 5 May 2011 17:50:28 -0500, Antonio Olivares < > olivares14031@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tried to do this: > >> # portupgrade -f ruby > >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > >> # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > >> # portupgrade -af > >> > >> Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again > > > > I think "customizations" refers to the "make config" > > screens, correct? It's the typical kind of interaction > > that _nobody_ likes. :-) > > > Yes these are the ones :) I have encountered two/three days of these > :( This is why I am asking. > > > > > >> I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : > >> > >> # portupgrade -arRp > >> > >> will this prompt me for customizations? > > > > The -P (and -PP) parameters requests precompiled binary > > packages - there is no way to configure them (as they have > > already been built using the port's default options). > > However, as soon as a package is not available, portupgrade > > will install the port from source (so make sure your > > ports tree is up to date), and it MAY happen that there > > is a "make config" interaction. > > > > The portupgrade program has a --batch parameter that > > reflects the BATCH=yes option for make calls (as if you > > would use "make install"). > > > > The "decision tree" is as follows: > > > > Port can be configured? > > Yes. > > Port has already been configured? > > Yes. > > Build it with that options. > > No. > > Ask for options. > > Then build it with that options. > > No. > > Build port. > > > > This applies if there is no package (which you require > > with the -P parameter to portupgrade). > > > > Make sure you've understood the upgrading procedures for > > the system and the installed applications correctly. > > There _may_ be better tools than portupgrade for dealing > > with the second part (e. g. portmaster, portmanager). > > The command line parameters you've collected make portupgrade > > perform a "pkg_add-like upgrade" the binary way. > > > > Also note the correct order of the upgrade steps: > > 1. Upgrade system (with freebsd-update) > > 2. Upgrade ports tree (with portsnap) > > 3. Upgrade installed software (with portupgrade) > > > This is exactly more or less what I have done. while doing 1, I > encountered several broken ports. But I just skipped those. Ran 2 > like the commands I posted. > > > > As I've mentioned, there are other tools that could take > > the place of the "with *" suggested above, but I think > > this is the way you intend to go. > > > > Just as an example, "make config-recursive" allows you to > > do all the config screens in one run, one after each other, > > and as soon as the settings got saved, they will be used > > without any further questions. See "man ports" for details > > about the several build targets; also see "man portupgrade" > > of other options you might need to create a non-interactive > > way of upgrading your installed ports. > > I should have asked before :(, tried to do it on my own. I have spent > two to three days answering questions back and forth and it seemed > that I would not finish :( I was not sure to proceed or not, because > previously I got burned with many errors that lib????.so , ... and I > saw the system working and left it at that. But now I know that to > keep a system in good working condition it needs to be updated with > security updates :) > > > > -- > > Polytropon > > Magdeburg, Germany > > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > > > > Thanks for helping out. I have not encountered any prompts(*crossing > my fingers*) will let you know how this turns out. > something to keep in mind .... portmaster does the same thing and all of portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason... -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:29:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B120106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A758FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3313478bwz.13 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CUiws8gl5YjAaUMJKf7Avx5V1XGAjpWcjPXLkrmDk10=; b=whupHaqZ5RjIEMjm5OWINMQQqlCU9wCrf4uMoSTN7ywbiF/+GZ7V/Z1KTkfGytJAA6 1T0OC36njCIKXgzm1gG7JE4cZPzpZWP5N/pgxV+cYK8+ASGybxl3QihrzRcgJmS4P6fU MYTL9WDu1JSVFuxyQHD1UTK0t9UVTtQzcxcsk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nx9zrGHREUJDD/KYMQYUN006bijsq2GN/oTIV9fgihlLYSNSypkzCPLsyCG2L5QRdF ietv9AK7wvuG4k0hahec01L7/WkON8E+XdeNCZ7ysOtpxWPhX39uOY+Gt38RFJkaHn3O ypN16oV8nzq3MjZHhEpxOHgVRi2pZjsx65Lvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.20.66 with SMTP id e2mr383175bkb.141.1304641623751; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2011 17:27:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 00:29:01 -0000 > something to keep in mind .... portmaster does the same thing and all of > portupgrades switches work with portmaster, the only significant difference > is that portmaster will run through and prompt you for all of the 'make > config' options first and then go about it's business unattended from that > point on... it will test for a valid set of config options in all of it's > deps before it builds anything, so for something large like gnome, you might > sit there for a while answering config screens, but once it's done, it will > require no more interaction unless a make dies for some reason... > > -- >> A: Yes. >> >Q: Are you sure? >> >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >> >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? Now, another question. I was thinking about this. Should I have popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade? Should I have run # make buildworld or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and optimized? I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series. I installed it and had dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was. I also got a BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich: http://livebsd.com/ \begin{quote} Inception LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January 2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004. The first LiveBSD Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts. \end{quote} I really liked it and used it at school. However the project died/was unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either. So far it has not prompted me for any configurations. Had done that for two/three days with the previous command: # portupgrade -af Then # freebsd-update install but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(, now I have updated ports tree with # portsnap fetch # portsnap extract and # portsnap install and running : # portupgrade -arRp I hope that it would finish soon. I don't know enough like I would like to. Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd /usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not too painful way of updating :) But this is part of learning and I will take it in stride. It is building new documentation packages handbook for several languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:37:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15FE1065674 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E5E38FC18 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.67] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 00:37:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.45] by tm7.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 00:37:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 00:37:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 86529.66166.bm@omp1045.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10039 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 00:37:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304642272; bh=tE7LT4sVcXSgPPRmw83lfpEm0+tHMXgsYU/g2wDG7qo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F/SNTKw/V6dNnJSs9WPZAOCqPYu9s6yY1nzysm/8suO9C1M5IfDZ9o/INZiyv2qELDnddwNDap+hpAdW5qUFY05WkIG4uvDthsRTr0TDnCIqTfqLe2w6iA3lSm49bAqGeA/W1oZKJIrYFJqABlSjyMLNpbSQRCioaNuPHXV8U9I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OMSpEU9y92qDIYUTaqUrokEgYE7ZkkbJQjml85AffEHUD91bvIt25hGwCGRrRpbJmWRCj6Qlhhz5/Aur7Z0uXM3/WrsgM2xwMrhzjxZfcOISXHbyVlykcMBNkFw4xIOiFK6Og1273N7CqO9Or2guT0vfuO67RjVl1g/Ns0MHGGI=; Message-ID: <687701.10024.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IRLxjkkVM1lXvNy97mT443m62w.fohLR4ekciHlYl.QpmYK ij8hPp7pQBk_ARZlDLq5H1BYysUdnHpklt3gEiEPFU9_OamygZ7Q0KI_Twkp l9Nc3oMC0RsyW7E8q9YbaMCg0KrF7JGm5i_Bbcj9XM4NW6Uf715v3_SF0x0o Q7HHJJLl3zvaK9jJnXGTGauEM3XG6OUJA3BlsJNIMeMPlF5xGTy8rZdSjNis bV_.zgyv6d1H1imBGO7qUkxHWf9jLbqB3V4jSAmohkkdOBHB0Vz6ht4z2fyV P3I1k26fGfoCqOBAkl7ikJ1F20BQAt.4V5.gJhlWuODkhKY_F.qBlj2zLTZa 4kYzsg2nsqg5kJgBy__xcTs1BqVPEz5OeuipXLMYJtGokeBIVy4TnZPLukz5 e54WmQazzpAhu Received: from [190.17.13.199] by web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2011 17:37:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 17:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 00:37:53 -0000 Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my= home network. 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Ram=E9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 00:50:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC89F1065672 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8D58FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 00:50:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 10162295; Thu, 05 May 2011 20:50:33 -0400 Received: from [192.168.43.232] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 10162293 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 20:50:25 -0400 Message-ID: <4DC345D2.4050806@radel.com> Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:50:26 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <687701.10024.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <687701.10024.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 00:50:34 -0000 On 5/5/11 8:37 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: > > Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server. > > I must add, the server only have one network card. It becomes difficult to use a server as a firewall unless you have an "inside" and an "outside" network. Easiest is to simply add another network card, should that be possible on your server. Another possibility is to use VLAN taggging and connect the server to a switch that understands VLANs. > > I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then how? could you point me to some howto?. > Yes. I'd start on the FreeBSD website and start reading things that look useful. If you're thinking about using pf as your firewall, which I'd personally recommend though other options are perfectly workable also, there's a nice document on the OpenBSD web site, IIRC. > P.S.: this is the 2nd time I send this email, the first time it got caught by SpamAssassin. Maybe because a link in my signature. > We got both on the list. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:04:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5261106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204A8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407D31E348; Fri, 6 May 2011 03:03:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p4613uHJ008799; Fri, 6 May 2011 03:03:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 03:03:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110506030350.b95644cc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:04:00 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2011 19:27:03 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Now, another question. I was thinking about this. Should I have > popped in a dvd and just used it to upgrade? I've never tried that, but it _should_ be possible to "overwrite" an existing installation (e. g. 8.1) with the files of the newer one (e. g. 8.2); however I would consider this a bad approach. > Should I have run > # make buildworld > or some magical command(s) that will build the system against newer > binaries and newer ports so that the system works better and > optimized? Depends. If you want to follow -RELEASE _and_ you do not need a custom kernel, use freebsd-upgrade to use the binary way. If you _intendedly_ want to use source based updates to use -STABLE (or even -CURRENT) and (or) you need a custom kernel that requires compiling, using the source is the better way. Personally, I do both. On servers for example, I upgrade the binary way on -RELEASE, then rebuild the ports (after upgrading the ports tree, of course). On my testing system that I use to try out "bleeding edge" software and where I also want a custom kernel (due to some specific hardware), I use the source Luke. > I have limited experience using FreeBSD :(, have used it on and off > since release 5.3 with KDE 3.4/3.5 series. I installed it and had > dialup at home tried to get the ltmodem port working, but did not > succeed :(, and I left it as pristine as it was. I have also started using FreeBSD with dialup (real PPP with modem), but this one was a regular serial one which worked out of the box - not as the crap usually assembled into "modern" laptops... > I also got a > BSDLiveCD : by Scott Ullrich: > > http://livebsd.com/ There's also FreeSBIE, one of the famous FreeBSD live system CDs (which I traditionally use for diagnostics and test). > \begin{quote} > Inception > LiveBSD was founded by Scott Ullrich and Chris Buechler in January > 2004. It started its life as an open source project, modifying > FreeSBIE scripts to build FreeBSD-based live CD's. A name was decided > on, and the domain registered on February 28, 2004. The first LiveBSD > Desktop CD was released at that time, a KDE desktop live CD based on > FreeBSD 5.2, built using modified FreeSBIE scripts. > \end{quote} Sounds interesting, thanks for mentioning it! > I really liked it and used it at school. However the project died/was > unsupported, it appears FreeSBIE has not had much love either. You can build your own live system CD if needed - there are excellent tools for that. So once you got a system configured the way you want, you can follow this idea and make a "portable system" from that. > So far it has not prompted me for any configurations. Had done that > for two/three days with the previous command: > > # portupgrade -af This will stop on any point a configuration is needed. > Then > # freebsd-update install Shouldn't you upgrade the system PRIOR TO the ports? The order is recommended as system -> ports tree -> ports. > but the ports/packages were still for old 8.1 release :(, Yes, as you've updated them on 8.1, and THEN you got the system to 8.2. > now I have > updated ports tree with > # portsnap fetch > # portsnap extract > and > # portsnap install That's correct. Just as a sidenote: There is another way to upgrade the ports tree, the "traditional one" from the days before portsnap: Step 1: Add this to /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup.freebsd.org PORTSSUPFILE= /etc/sup/ports.sup Step 2: Create /etc/sup/ports.sup: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all Note: You can use a different cvsup host and can also exclude port categories from being updated (e. g. for languages you do not use, or kinds of programs you are not interested in). See /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile for more details, it's very well documented (here: in comments). Step 3: Perform the update # cd /usr/ports # make update Now you have a _current_ ports tree. Note: A similar method works for the system sources. Add SUPFILE= /etc/sup/stable.sup to /etc/make.conf and create /etc/sup/stable.sup like this: *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all This will give you 8-CURRENT. Use "tag=RELENG_8.0" for 8.0-pX (security branch, just as freebsd-update would do), and if you need RELEASE, use "tag=RELENG_8.0.0". Then, # cd /usr/src # make update # make buildworld buildkernel See /usr/src/Makefile (comment section) for which make targets are defined and in which order you must proceed for a system upgrade based on sources. > and running : > > # portupgrade -arRp > > I hope that it would finish soon. Depends on your computer's power and which ports are currently installed. :-) > I don't know enough like I would > like to. You will easily "learn by doing". > Sadly :( except for installing some ports [cd > /usr/ports/editor/some-package/, make install clean] and the package > would build after configuring some stuff :), but now the stuff was > overwhelming :( and I would have preferred to learn a quick and not > too painful way of updating :) But this is part of learning and I > will take it in stride. If you want to intendedly build a "big port" from source as you've correctly mentioned, use the command # make config-recursive before the build. This will make sure all dependencies are checked for "make config" screens, and they are visited first. Then, run # make install to perform the actual install which will then NOT be interrupted by a "make config" screen. > It is building new documentation packages handbook for several > languages some new packages and it is moving nicely :) You can easily configure _which_ languages you want the documentation for. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:04:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC8D1065680 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5AC8FC1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p460xPu3016173; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:59:25 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p460xOfr016166; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:59:25 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A083233C3D; Fri, 6 May 2011 02:04:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 02:04:34 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Antonio Olivares Message-ID: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RC2 amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:04:38 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Dear all, >=20 > I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it > following advice in handbook: >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html >=20 > ran > # freebsd-update fetch > # freebsd-update install >=20 > # portupgrade -af >=20 > # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade >=20 > then >=20 > # freebsd-update install >=20 > Tried to do this: > # portupgrade -f ruby > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > # portupgrade -af >=20 > Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again >=20 > # freebsd-update install >=20 > and had nothing more to do :( >=20 > I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : >=20 > # portupgrade -arRp >=20 > will this prompt me for customizations? Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the options. As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you don't want to change the default options. >=20 > Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions. I am taking the plunge a little > further. Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a > few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am > trying to learn more and setup the firewall. I set up the simple > example setup by Polytropon and most is working. My freebsd version > has moved to FreeBSD 8.2 >=20 >=20 >=20 > [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a > FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE > #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 > root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Antonio Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3DSSEACgkQHduKvUAgeK5yLgCfYFy4MgeTLjjR5wOPLVDfLSLi JiYAnizZv9QX9L3W99hu3eiG4Yf+K71I =NBb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:05:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA99106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DStaal@usa.net) Received: from mail.magehandbook.com (173-8-4-45-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.4.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72DC8FC1B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (Mac-Pro.magehandbook.com [192.168.1.50]) by mail.magehandbook.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AB8BF9; Thu, 5 May 2011 20:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 20:49:22 -0400 From: Daniel Staal To: =?UTF-8?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=C3=A9?= , questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <63C1F6F4EE966ADF8471C35F@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> In-Reply-To: <687701.10024.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <687701.10024.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:05:40 -0000 --As of May 5, 2011 5:37:52 PM -0700, Leonardo M. Ram=C3=A9 is alleged to = have=20 said: > Hi, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for > my home network. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux > laptop and one FreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as > web/database server. > > I must add, the server only have one network card. > > I would like to know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a > Firewall for the whole network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If > this can be done, then how? could you point me to some howto?. --As for the rest, it is mine. I don't know of any howto's but it is possible. You would need to set up=20 the FreeBSD box with two ip's on it's interface, (one as an alias), and=20 have them on separate networks. (Sharing the same hardware, but with=20 non-overlapping ip ranges. Make one a 10.* network and one a 192.168.*=20 network.) One is the 'outside' network, and includes your internet=20 gateway. The other is your 'inside' network and includes everything else.=20 (Including your WiFi access point.) Then you set up the FreeBSD box to route & NAT between them, and to=20 firewall along the way. A standard FreeBSD firewall howto would work=20 there, as long as you watch that you never specify an interface name in the = firewall rules, but use the IP address instead. However, I would not recommend this. It's way too easy to accidentally at=20 some later point put one of your home boxes on the 'outside' network and=20 then you've just bypassed your firewall. Another ethernet card won't cost=20 much, and will make the setup easier and more secure: You can then=20 physically separate the networks. Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:09:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971471065679 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0C78FC13 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so2808352wwc.31 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 18:09:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VkSN3TSFFUczCxJrlzqosATvm7w27G8VKAGp3/vqkn4=; b=eXqKMrZBDV8pSwtxaCq+ZI/k8beDQNp4ZMdL8pLAd/P1WXxbUYcnqzmpx07jG474+L wXsPOqFZiLSs19mtrKG4rCmRrzQEb6z6P/kZdiDkvo6CW/Ogq0myAIRd9d6qI/fdryTT lW01rX8s/DnGRgvYDhjts2l/DFz9rRnsO5mqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QK/cRhH3+ZU51LK0eWYd629Xm/UWmlGRYNGSd7CIyZN76+dg5PjXQD2PH9pImlVUnA MFMxX8H39J8MgaQe0mxJsJJIuppc2RR7Vp1e4t/AAIfGzuj6OgeGB6oOuRsjnT0kcixS G9b5zYP+OSM5aWBZ4f6HrWrrXJBA505g1xOAc= Received: by 10.227.39.66 with SMTP id f2mr3196902wbe.2.1304644170611; Thu, 05 May 2011 18:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm1683694wbd.4.2011.05.05.18.09.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 May 2011 18:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC35857.1060207@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 02:09:27 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Dowse" References: <4DC1BEA8.6030108@gmail.com> <20110504224931.9ffd5682.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC1E23E.3020001@gmail.com> <20110505014556.50dcea0e.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC27128.8040508@gmail.com> <20110505143748.4be94f6f.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2CCD7.3080406@gmail.com> <20110505192047.137782cb.freebsd@edvax.de> <4DC2FDA8.8030407@gmail.com> <20110506014809.b4516152.dcdowse@gmx.net> <4DC34882.8090906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC34882.8090906@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rox-fm X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:09:32 -0000 Em 06-05-2011 01:01, pwnedomina escreveu: > Em 05-05-2011 23:48, Daniel C. Dowse escreveu: >> On Thu, 05 May 2011 19:42:32 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> [cut] >>> i had a little problem, after i have rox-filer running im unable to see >>> output of root-tail texts in background, what can i do in order to fix this? >> It may be cause your run rox with -S [ --rox-session ] option and the pinboard >> is set as your backdrop, you probably have to run rox without the session >> command. >> >> cheers >> >> Daniel Dowse >> >> \\|// >> (o o) >> -----------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------------------- >> - Wer Morgens verknittert ist, hat Tagsueber mehr Zeit sich zu - >> - enfalten; - >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> - Please send plain ASCII text only. - >> - Please reply below quoted text section. - >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > as for the root-tail what settings you recommend to use? > on http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=.xinitrc > they have show this example > > #!/bin/sh > #log files we like to watch > logfile1="/var/log/messages,white" > logfile2="/var/log/kern.log,green" > logfile3="/var/log/auth.log,red,'LOGIN'" > logfile4="/var/log/secure,red,'ALERT!!'" > #the font we want our log to show > logfont="-rolibue-matto-bold-r-normal--14-14-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1" > #the deminsions of our log area > geom="800x350+10+40" > exec gkrellm2 -w & > exec root-tail -g ${geom} -fn ${logfont} ${log1} ${log2} ${log3} ${log4}" > klipper > xset r rate 195 35 > #load our custom keymaps for special keys to work in x > xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap > #load our custom settings for terminal and other stuff > xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults > #start a window manager > exec fluxbox > #can only execute one this time we use fluxbox > #exec openbox > > which does not seem very suitable, do you recommend other settings? > #exec wmaker > > now, whenever i try to execute rox and open files i get the message "exec: /path/file: Permission denied". what is wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:17:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A07106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D708FC08 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p461HVbt028736; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:17:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p461HVnw028733; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:17:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:17:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 05 May 2011 19:17:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about ulpt speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:17:33 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > we recently bought kyocera 2020D printer. There are USB and LAN versions. We > got cheaper USB as it is connected 1 meter from server anyway. > > But seems there are some problems with USB > ulpt seems to work fine, device is connected at 480Mbps > > but 2 page 5 megabyte postscript file is transmitted 10-15 seconds. > > On Kyocera 3900DN which have EXACTLY same internal processor, same amount of > RAM, but LAN interface and even similar printing mechanism and nearly same > look - same file is accepted below one second to printer and soon it is > printing it. > > Larger postscript files are transmitted longer. > > I am not sure but seems it is not printer problem. Any ideas what to > check/change in ulpt? It's worth trying unlpt. But if the sending time is proportional to the file size, it's probably not that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:28:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A82106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:28:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360BD8FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p461SIeN028778; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:28:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p461SIaQ028775; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:28:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:28:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20110506013353.2e5ea29d.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 05 May 2011 19:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions , Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:28:22 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > something to keep in mind .... portmaster does the same thing and all of > portupgrades switches work with portmaster, portmaster doesn't have the same switches as portupgrade. Or, being more precise, it has some of the same option flags, but they mean something completely different. For example, -R. > the only significant difference is that portmaster will run through > and prompt you for all of the 'make config' options first and then go > about it's business unattended from that point on... The -c or -C options for portupgrade do that, but they aren't on by default. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:37:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C2E106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272618FC16 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p461b0qc028814; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:37:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p461b0Tu028811; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:37:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:37:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 05 May 2011 19:37:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:37:01 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear all, > > I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it > following advice in handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html > > ran > # freebsd-update fetch > # freebsd-update install > > # portupgrade -af > > # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade > > then > > # freebsd-update install > > Tried to do this: > # portupgrade -f ruby > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb > # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db > # portupgrade -af > > Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again portupgrade is written in Ruby and uses ruby-bdb, so this may not work. -f is of questionable value. Why not just cd to the port directories, and 'make clean build deinstall install'? > # freebsd-update install > > and had nothing more to do :( > > I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : > > # portupgrade -arRp -a is equivalent to -arR. And that's building packages, which is not necessary unless you want to copy them to another machine. > will this prompt me for customizations? Options menus? Yes, the ports will ask on their own. If you use the -c or -C options, portupgrade will do all of them at the start of the process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 01:37:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69166106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:37:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martinrame@yahoo.com) Received: from nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 435A58FC1F for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm19.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 01:23:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.49] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 01:23:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 01:23:37 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 225662.65952.bm@omp1049.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33092 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 01:23:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304645016; bh=LY8rL91aW1KAtZdM45OUOZI3O17cD9Iv1RKXjWeF/mg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=iRvOvy4Ar4XSRJnJh+SMPk3dzGgOIWoIJcj0iGi8pXR81I3MY/Ua+t9rOYtHJutd1DikZG3Eq6R0dyHCOzDdsH6z5S+62ME8LB+eTveupUsVVjQXBSuahXOxbwnxc07tX6vm0SSno4f3+Dy5UDnba+GdFrHek9uDdmX8KRgNu/4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VYtVcnUWmbipVpypO84/iqOHhNUFAhiEH/vymUQYAj2nfMDnrnouHZhH+HrUQOVAsPtzen2vIRO2laOt6qfRoq8r4hkUSNCTfzWWAY0d0bdAnKxGwfr8EVEkzZ6bUVozfey8yMOqWYSgV4oECKGftej6ZR2r41hsoX53WJqysvo=; Message-ID: <815771.25520.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M_7gI2wVM1lIhwAlgsqtm_E_bYF0vO7oz4UKDuWCcm4CaqB .e08DwdZnylTXz9HTGjh1X.P4YL5cEm6K4jqhzcGNDPqk6eB7B5JPHOnmyWE ptpUxVrzbapCw3As_fZ0RxFuPf5b3XPN66IgUScHEjAn6Zwqp6yKtZHMxWvZ _Tk6FN5uQWh0P4zqZGELkGDrVqODmhpNXhzgB_gs_MQsM4GFgtZz.6iqUUnH Y_SzYu1utP1Ozgv4W7jieJlA9qSNbGYeKbnr2N1kHRyac6cC9ylXjj7e5Pr2 LgO1fEVVM15P_IJ1Icpcsbv0iGOTmeYY7C83z5QxiLnZd9HlN6BrtJLgztb1 3FhHm_IYupw62oViKUcoqIFTmdwzdW.OY1SOOkhjoUdFmjZlQ4YnCNVbLXt_ ldAzaRpLwyfv3RebQMl9xqaeAoEUqORIZxVn9QnufiL_25KWDwUMvHP6s2P2 B7lJxLC6EAhjKljGd8Y3qJWpBW4LyN0uMznGPK3JyHfYK Received: from [190.17.13.199] by web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 05 May 2011 18:23:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 18:23:36 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4DC345D2.4050806@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 01:37:05 -0000 --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Jon Radel wrote:=0A=0A> From: Jon Radel= =0A> Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router and FreeB= SD=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A> Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 9= :50 PM=0A> =0A> On 5/5/11 8:37 PM, Leonardo M. Ram=E9 wrote:=0A> > =0A> > H= i, at home I have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide=0A> internet access for= my home network. The network is composed=0A> by two Windows PCs, one Linux= laptop and one FreeBSD server=0A> we use mainly for storage and as web/dat= abase server.=0A> > =0A> > I must add, the server only have one network car= d.=0A> =0A> It becomes difficult to use a server as a firewall unless=0A> y= ou have an "inside" and an "outside" network.=A0 Easiest=0A> is to simply a= dd another network card, should that be=0A> possible on your server.=A0 Ano= ther possibility is to use=0A> VLAN taggging and connect the server to a sw= itch that=0A> understands VLANs.=0A> =0A> > =0A> > I would like to know if = its possible to use the=0A> FreeBSD server as a Firewall for the whole netw= ork, securing=0A> LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then how?= =0A> could you point me to some howto?.=0A> > =0A> =0A> Yes.=A0 I'd start o= n the FreeBSD website and start=0A> reading things that look useful.=A0 If = you're thinking=0A> about using pf as your firewall, which I'd personally= =0A> recommend though other options are perfectly workable also,=0A> there'= s a nice document on the OpenBSD web site, IIRC.=0A> =0A=0AThanks, I think = I better add a 2nd network card, as Daniel suggested. Then I'll try this ag= ain.=0A=0ALeonardo M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 02:49:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB2E106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 02:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [75.101.116.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145E58FC16 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 02:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-108-23-64-87.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.64.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p462LUq2066765 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 May 2011 19:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) From: Doug Hardie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:21:29 -0700 Message-Id: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 02:49:59 -0000 One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN = which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a = fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via = Google.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 05:26:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6349F1065674 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 05:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoom.lafn.org (zoom.lafn.org [75.101.116.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427808FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 05:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (pool-108-23-64-87.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.64.87]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoom.lafn.org (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p465QFts070691 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 May 2011 22:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 22:26:14 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> To: Matthias Apitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at zoom.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 05:26:17 -0000 On 5 May 2011, at 22:19, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 07:21:29PM -0700, Doug Hardie = escribi=F3: >=20 >> One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother = 8680DN which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to = send a fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via = Google._______________________________________________ >=20 > Check out HylaFAX in the ports; don't know if your modem is supported; Thanks. As best as I can tell the Brother unit has a modem built it, = but the only interface to it is via ethernet. I suspect it takes a PDF = and then sends that, much like printing.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 05:41:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345531065670 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 05:41:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from kane.compar.com (ns1.compar.com [207.236.25.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C128FC13 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 05:41:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hermes (CPE002129cfd480-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.236.129.198]) by kane.compar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702E115B28B8; Fri, 6 May 2011 01:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "'Doug Hardie'" , "'FreeBSD Questions'" References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> In-Reply-To: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 01:26:03 -0400 Message-ID: <002401cc0bae$200e60d0$602b2270$@on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcwLmTq4xsxuX7y/SySGUjPNFaS7jgAFLEVw Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: B74h CKQ8 EGFc FAEd HuS3 Hyr3 IXuA JPcm J82z Mo5t OUrT O6Il QvE2 SGOq U0f9 U+Fe; 2; YgBjADkANwA5AEAAbABhAGYAbgAuAG8AcgBnADsAcQB1AGUAcwB0AGkAbwBuAHMAQABmAHIAZQBlAGIAcwBkAC4AbwByAGcA; Sosha1_v1; 7; {1EBE032E-E6DB-48D3-837F-5F8880862E8E}; bQBhAHQAdABAAGcAcwBpAGMAbwBtAHAALgBvAG4ALgBjAGEA; Fri, 06 May 2011 05:25:54 GMT; UgBFADoAIABTAGUAbgBkAGkAbgBnACAAYQAgAEYAYQB4AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {1EBE032E-E6DB-48D3-837F-5F8880862E8E} Cc: Subject: RE: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 05:41:46 -0000 >> One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN which will fax. >> Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax? I am not finding anything >> beyond printing for that unit via Google. ------------ According to http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/us/us/en/monolasermfc/m fc8680dn_us/spec/index.html, this device does have PC FAX capabilities on Windows/Mac/Linux. Here is the download site for Linux drivers: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html With some Linux emulator and CUPS tweaking, you should be able to get the Linux PC FAX capability working on FreeBSD. YMMV, HTH. -- Regards, Matt Emmerton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 06:48:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BE6106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 06:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345C68FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 06:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B04A2062B19; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pcW4EU1XL5gr; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C982062B08; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A965133E; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JZvTFQ0AMNSt; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id E00AA51367; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110506064855.GA16592@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/CURRENT (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 06:48:57 -0000 On Thu, May 05, 2011, Doug Hardie wrote: > >On 5 May 2011, at 22:19, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> El día Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 07:21:29PM -0700, Doug Hardie escribió: >> >>> One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via Google._______________________________________________ >> >> Check out HylaFAX in the ports; don't know if your modem is supported; > >Thanks. As best as I can tell the Brother unit has a modem built it, but >the only interface to it is via ethernet. I suspect it takes a PDF and >then sends that, much like printing. I've found that the Multitech external modems have been the most reliable for fax operations. We've been using HylaFAX for years, since it was called Flexfax. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Never chastise a Windows user...just smile at them kindly as you would a disadvantaged child. WBM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:06:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F4D106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBCE8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B04A2062B19; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pcW4EU1XL5gr; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C982062B08; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A965133E; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JZvTFQ0AMNSt; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id E00AA51367; Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 23:48:55 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110506064855.GA16592@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/CURRENT (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 07:06:21 -0000 On Thu, May 05, 2011, Doug Hardie wrote: > >On 5 May 2011, at 22:19, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> El día Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 07:21:29PM -0700, Doug Hardie escribió: >> >>> One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via Google._______________________________________________ >> >> Check out HylaFAX in the ports; don't know if your modem is supported; > >Thanks. As best as I can tell the Brother unit has a modem built it, but >the only interface to it is via ethernet. I suspect it takes a PDF and >then sends that, much like printing. I've found that the Multitech external modems have been the most reliable for fax operations. We've been using HylaFAX for years, since it was called Flexfax. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792 Never chastise a Windows user...just smile at them kindly as you would a disadvantaged child. WBM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:25:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B04D106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from sh4-5.1blu.de (sh4-5.1blu.de [213.83.63.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2388FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ftp51246-2575596 by sh4-5.1blu.de with local (Exim 4.50) id 1QIFPX-0000lh-Cp for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:25:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:25:14 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110506072514.GA1720@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> <20110506064855.GA16592@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110506064855.GA16592@ayn.mi.celestial.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 07:25:20 -0000 El día Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 11:48:55PM -0700, Bill Campbell escribió: > I've found that the Multitech external modems have been the most > reliable for fax operations. We've been using HylaFAX for years, > since it was called Flexfax. I have been using HylaFAX for many years in my company and at home, mostly with ZyXEL 1496 modems, very robust, and I have in that time beeing tested a lot of other modems too w/ FlexFAX and HylaFAX.. > Never chastise a Windows user...just smile at them kindly as you would a > disadvantaged child. WBM nice :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:27:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDBD1065672 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FC98FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.64.63] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIDS2-0004uc-MT; Fri, 06 May 2011 07:19:42 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p465Jcwa002349; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:19:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p465Jamf002348; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:19:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:19:36 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 93.104.64.63 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 07:27:21 -0000 El día Thursday, May 05, 2011 a las 07:21:29PM -0700, Doug Hardie escribió: > One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via Google._______________________________________________ Check out HylaFAX in the ports; don't know if your modem is supported; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ¡Ya basta! ¡Imperialistas occidentales, quitad las manos de Libia! There's an end of it! Imperialists occidentals, hands off Libya! Schluss jetzt endlich! Imperialisten des Westens, Haende weg von Libyen! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 07:41:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CFC106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8373E8FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p467VgMv086646; Fri, 6 May 2011 02:31:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 02:31:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201105060731.p467VgMv086646@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: bc979@lafn.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 07:41:51 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu May 5 21:50:34 2011 > From: Doug Hardie > Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:21:29 -0700 > To: FreeBSD Questions > Cc: > Subject: Sending a Fax > > One of my clients needs to send a lot of faxes. He has a Brother 8680DN > which will fax. Any ideas how to send a file to it and get it to send a > fax? I am not finding anything beyond printing for that unit via > Google. Not to belabor the obvious, but do you have the owners manual? what does it say about faxing? *MOST* computer-driven "fax machines" have the 'logical equivalent' of a serial port, to which you send specialized "AT" (extended Hayes modem commands) to go into fax mode, and originate a call. Then you shovel out a bit-stream that is the already rasterized fax data. I've always used 'Hylafax' -- a _smart_ fax-management daemon that supports a whole bunch of different kinds of fax modems, handles -multiple- fax- modems, automatic retries, etc., etc. It supports a very simple protocol for queueing faxes from applicatioons, or the command line, and handles either ASCII or PostScript input. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:00:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22006106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:00:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C928F8FC19 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:00:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm20.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:47:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.166] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:47:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:47:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 964362.92668.bm@omp1049.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 72140 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 10:47:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304678855; bh=FEdlSQuaqFhlDtWiktxnIhK/t76GlCqSmbMjQYvOx9M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6wBNRYASBUJjUrdB+WpfgiOfM0g0ViY6J6WRkv7cnsD+D7ETEDIwgj8I8MoWz8w6fDMZLZBQWgqIr2FOlKeZ6PCSnzasqTj5Iw/D8mmiG8tLNM8I58QymJqSWBU14SGh92OpGC31eT5iQk1gSVpFLOWXh3Fe7xR8a4NBPgUOXbk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mAIgyE9DCG7gdpyy42axqkpoSUBqIHjDhjIo6j2X6c8unH34jOgp4/qh/MhiHuSOy5Lp30k6V7mSVqT6bH7v2lKtkyOkKElrAfK122TV0HwOI5McC3Ad5WdC9RN66Xiw0CYtrNvMlwOenT0sB3U3y1T2diT+4tD5NW85p8ShoHk=; Message-ID: <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xHgz1J4VM1lY43cBBEOn7CtPuyVKwh8DPEzzCUzMKbQN3On Mawz5EVKmRV.0rqmF0ajzu2UJp531pn4h3Etu_B4OLa.E_XEQQ94fOtyV_E3 IEeT34xiig7jfecIa4.8s9_.6vVLwsVNAkhnM5fk7ORwgLWK3R5zJnqK.rQf lPkzCD9cD9hmoA9v2N7FZHA4OIGrGKS98s._pMp07DM4RgBJObvj0EttsM1r oNgFOzdSw9Vjo4BAveUz2UXGBrWw.8GcWysc7olSLD1qbQGvS7SaHXaIEhM3 x6Nhq4mr7NgU.kxZZUY2cgNZJPBt_q._Iq2ZN2vLLUHGMVWy8yZ9ijOMXhZb YuXn45rdPM6gCafJkAl_70hpo1JwLgF_mPwFCLUaW09suYps59sBda1w- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2011 03:47:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 03:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 11:00:50 -0000 =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Doug Hardie =0A= To: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:2= 1:29 PM=0ASubject: Sending a Fax=0A=0AOne of my clients needs to send a lot= of faxes.=A0 He has a Brother 8680DN which =0Awill fax.=A0 Any ideas how t= o send a file to it and get it to send a fax?=A0 I am =0Anot finding anythi= ng beyond printing for that unit via =0AGoogle.____________________________= ___________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://l= ists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send = any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0AI read the = other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For the =0Ala= st few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF a= nd =0Aother document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its gr= een too. =0AStill there are those who must or insist on=A0cutting down huge= swaths or forest =0Ain order to send out more paper which will only end up= in the land-fills. OK =0Athat's my 2 cents worth so now I will address you= r question.=0A=0AI would assume that the Brother Fax machine you have shoul= d be able to handle =0Anetwork printing which means it should handle networ= k faxing. It not then it =0Awill almost certainly have to be decommissioned= if network faxing is what you're =0Aafter. Some have said you can get Free= BSD using Linux emulation to talk to it, =0Abut unless you really know what= you're doing this will be like reinventing the =0Awheel. Personally, I dou= bt you could get this to work and even if you did, it =0Awould be such a co= mplex setup that no one but you would know how it works and =0Athe next IT = person who steps up to manage it will curse the day you were born. =0ANot t= o mention getting your people in userland to understand and use this =0Apro= cess will prove fruitless because unless the users can simply point and cli= ck =0Ait will never be accepted by them. So unless you plan on being there = to hold the =0Auser's hand throughout each fax.....get the picture.=0A=0AHy= laFAX is a nice alternative and the port in FreeBSD has been tried and test= ed =0Aby many and it has earned it's stripes. But you will need a modem of = some kind =0Ato work with it and I doubt that the modem inside the Brother = unit you have will =0Awork. On top of that, if your client is using Windows= as their workstation OS =0Athen you wil need a client to interface with Hy= laFAX unless again you plan on =0Abeing there to massage and handhold them = through the entire process. There are =0Aseveral Windows clients available = for HylaFAX, a few of them are free but =0Arequire more than a point and cl= ick process to run. The makers of HylaFAX have =0Aan excellent client which= works just like a simple print queue process but it =0Acosts $35 per seat.= Other clients are available and cost a few $$ per seat as =0Awell. I have = a nice setup with HylaFAX and Windows clients but I just don't fax =0Aanymo= re so I hardly ever use it.=0A=0AI assume the Brother machine will do other= tasks like printing, scanning, etc... =0Abut to get it to interface with F= reeBSD will be a major undertaking. No offense =0Abut the users in this gro= up will make suggestions which sounf=A0like you just =0Asimply plug-n-play.= When in reality, it will take a huge effort for which there =0Awill be lit= tle or no documentation available and in many cases will never work =0Ain t= he first place because drivers don't exist for what you want to do. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:00:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0A9106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:00:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3CCB8FC1B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.52.191] by nm9.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:53:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.179] by tm4.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:53:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1062.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 10:53:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 634212.80478.bm@omp1062.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 94825 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 10:53:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304679236; bh=HPShkP37ViY4aPlX3ZdQaz33gByOGXYQWzd0CZZf2GQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IXQMfnL0666J6l1lL9Hio1wGV8uNK7RoV6lX438fzyAl8q7MjxJJtyH5opJ1zCsuPLzkrnEEQ6LyjJomEWuu3I6WumCe/r45AbgJn+ewQ2ucaFB+eK9cLoGJwPMbbsEBy14qp3yCSOR7XBsaFhgZoQ35zJByzzu7acLMrsJkbVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x7wVEKQbdgErGTi9UFV7s4zg8dlJjpnPG+Buf3SSPuvoZCmGz7ORSdBy+MwW7c8TC2AcHbifE8WOqyWuH2whp8PsI3cLsywF15k4Nxd27vK43dkiKMQMIxEAP34n4OzjBq9vQPvqwQ3lJ3xAEPDphyOdvIqfatduMhTjJvpqR8c=; Message-ID: <171215.93434.qm@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: j55vnGwVM1mnyWdN29a_KAdRXlH8HTZcqr_RqECl7wVl.47 quiAtYhv16.9Mu9458_J4M6MkfluDDdOzXajN3rs22qCdl.ZVVDXcvxavqUV XgsYdGBmvOkMUSuRaXLIok76sGH24qlGaYB4MDea1TJuJSQkt9_ZdPXmLa2Z Yd97HVOjS.gclocrEs2OzidJwFQ2SORtnQbdPXci6811sxlNHfG32CS9yZ_y hWQCJVBmnkhDX_G6TemZKbpMqw1bQ7_gM4ZyAWEA9SHvyqTkJMiX_t.aoVGz 9bM3HeHERngWaaDHRwRrqH6bJQA9zvyNxd9aPAFaKUsaONauvWQta7kks8ix gAmdF58UsthSLprhiUyvIi8PNv_F7z7M0Yw0A5Xjdy_3JW5tLayEMV9IETlZ fyoRTksvKOOr9ciqBiYL7OTFe9PCqjRY3grFuiq_EzoELKaZHcj0wANo9QpM HavMJMxx4INgCdk7o1DHixZyuy88- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2011 03:53:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <922394.62111.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 03:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <922394.62111.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 11:00:53 -0000 =0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Leonardo M. Ram=E9 =0ATo: questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:44:36 = PM=0ASubject: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD=0A=0A=0AThe short a= nswer is a definite yes, but you will need two NIC's in the FreeBSD =0Aserv= er. I have a FreeBSD server which runs diskless and it acts as my router = =0Aright behind the cable modem. All networks in my home including the wire= less one =0Auses this machine as it's route to the Internet. It runs IPFW2 = as the firewall. =0AIt also does some port forwarding from my Asterisk PBX = and webserver which are =0Arunning on other FreeBSD servers inside my LAN.= =0A=0AThere is excellent information in the FreeBSD handbook on how to setu= p a FreeBSD =0Aserver as a gateway/router. Check it out.=0A=0AHi, at home I= have a DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my home =0Anetw= ork. The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and one = =0AFreeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.=0A= =0AI must add, the server only have one network card.=0A=0AI would like to = know if its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall for =0Athe who= le network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then = =0Ahow? could you point me to some howto?.=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeonar= do M. Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A_________________________= ______________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp:= //lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, se= nd any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:23:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BB31065672 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 95F358FC1B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 11:10:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 11:10:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 May 2011 11:10:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 262285.9297.bm@omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28645 invoked by uid 60001); 6 May 2011 11:10:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304680258; bh=evB47NCy+TLdCk5RUU1YLT7hXqrOIC5WazNhFgy+iqA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bpBGhktyleAm92QQopGX+QOtali4wr6mYp3pjDYC90o9caguo+nVqWBZneFat1T/v3jucxZlBQ2RmS6SwdRds5bFiAFOkg+wf6cv/C6rhfiSUs4CRpZ1KrKBKSs8IALeVrq4hUsICBB2NXA7oXAdAUDR5mg3E0pOBQkh2D1xcu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a/FR0ixP1Yt1nVfeVNTxn/j7xCnI8FLtZ+6WJfp/fY0MeR4iv/5TuSoI7LWwIfwb7YKhh9E98ddKoCtHzvs7IUsldpEsYdpsYqcBSNR4hbgslW05mPhfh7rjwVxbXSYURDBknrFTEVZdxALcfTvx6c+15OCNYjcIxbWtCRLT3aI=; Message-ID: <436829.27921.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8ve9g4AVM1lyQ2O7gC_0gysF3H2WSM8.JaOWW9MczSlgnpe guI4DCCCfUUkG4LPhINViVoNDQnbIS_FnewvGFks4Nd6Rc2NSUQmYpqEnz2Q wSBn.xPYBmBzUZgHBT84omrKrFmCn.tX9OjhJtnif7BrtpamAtTXhWcdbWKz p3NTvT_NcINjJySBcHKpJjAnnWvrTqjMW1vEh3zPk_h01.Eh3Jwt7dTVMBBP tqX86tVc4EaA0TJNiNMgy.CQEwrattwh3m_fUI2fBEhhzWs.WFOy7KQ44wyo QH2iLvfg.fUUo3xyVR30R1N_rsgLCXC3mTTj.R2Nnr2sihFbuS4rRA2hcofB 8NnGbt08nus8xwfxHONq0d9w5neJMaDbfGAcHvp.WOj4usdbEtznWqZKZMx5 J3CY5GFajt0zuw_IZiz6aDa5tsT4PkCmlz1CWesPZF1_nhIvbtCREXkMbUFc mrZNZQbU74x0dWh3ZZfIytL3J2OY- Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 May 2011 04:10:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <922394.62111.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <171215.93434.qm@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 04:10:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Bill Tillman , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Leonardo_M=2E_Ram=E9?= , questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <171215.93434.qm@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 11:23:52 -0000 Please excuse me. I typed my reply below all the existing text but somehow = it =0Aended up being formatted into the middle of this one. Can someone giv= e me the =0Atip for insuring I don't top post and that my reply ends up at = the bottom of the =0Ae-mail?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: Bill Tillman =0ATo: Leonardo M. Ram=E9 ; questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Fri, May 6, 2011 6:53:56 A= M=0ASubject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD=0A=0A=0A________= ________________________=0A=0AFrom: Leonardo M. Ram=E9 =0ATo: questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:44:36 PM=0ASubjec= t: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD=0A=0A=0AThe short answer is a = definite yes, but you will need two NIC's in the FreeBSD =0Aserver. I have = a FreeBSD server which runs diskless and it acts as my router =0Aright behi= nd the cable modem. All networks in my home including the wireless one =0A= =0Auses this machine as it's route to the Internet. It runs IPFW2 as the fi= rewall. =0AIt also does some port forwarding from my Asterisk PBX and webse= rver which are =0Arunning on other FreeBSD servers inside my LAN.=0A=0ATher= e is excellent information in the FreeBSD handbook on how to setup a FreeBS= D =0A=0Aserver as a gateway/router. Check it out.=0A=0AHi, at home I have a= DLink Dir 300 router to provide internet access for my home =0A=0Anetwork.= The network is composed by two Windows PCs, one Linux laptop and one =0AFr= eeBSD server we use mainly for storage and as web/database server.=0A=0AI m= ust add, the server only have one network card.=0A=0AI would like to know i= f its possible to use the FreeBSD server as a Firewall for =0A=0Athe whole = network, securing LAN and WiFi connections. If this can be done, then =0Aho= w? could you point me to some howto?.=0A=0AThanks in advance,=0ALeonardo M.= Ram=E9=0Ahttp://leonardorame.blogspot.com=0A______________________________= _________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lis= ts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send an= y mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A___________________= ____________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list= =0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubsc= ribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 11:42:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4865106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA8E8FC1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so2733368qwc.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 04:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.3.9 with SMTP id 9mr3336099qal.200.1304682168681; Fri, 06 May 2011 04:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s16sm2598479qco.13.2011.05.06.04.42.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 04:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QQrnd71Q8z2CG4n for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:42:45 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110506074245.3b4e1510@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <436829.27921.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <922394.62111.qm@web113506.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <171215.93434.qm@web36502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <436829.27921.qm@web36501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: Home firewall with DLink router & FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 11:42:49 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 04:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Bill Tillman articulated: > Please excuse me. I typed my reply below all the existing text but > somehow it ended up being formatted into the middle of this one. Can > someone give me the tip for insuring I don't top post and that my > reply ends up at the bottom of the e-mail? What are you using for an MUA? In any case, you could just delete all but a few lines of the original text and try placing your reply below that. Including 50+ lines of old text, especially text that has been replied to several times is more than slightly redundant; it borders on insane. Yet, unfortunately, it is done all the time. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies, ignored or reported as Spam. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 13:32:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BEE106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8148FC18 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 13:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EDD218E5 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CCAB5C1D for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:31:57 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110506093157.4b34ce22.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: firefox-4.0.1,1 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 13:32:41 -0000 After updating Firefox and all the ports it depends on, firefox-4.0.1,1 crashes when trying to use any part of the toolbar or the pull-down menu. I have posted the gdb output: http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/firefox.bt I have also recently rebuilt kernel and world (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE i386) How can I fix this? -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 14:06:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8F1065670 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C5A8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so3296973fxm.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qgC3VFOPMM9quOu9mEb49n/mT6ncj/w3PUBiPASgRDk=; b=tUPJ3tGZ3fT2bg/unvzQ2SECkYZ7aZiZ2g9oL7ytkwNU+hLy02h8jEuOqMmH9EmNZp WhifSyFfdAk0+VTKh+kX2910I7zgHmPDg1zYGPFeuPC24J6G9/rm3NIC7YQ/UG5vbbOP vHlbDYy2LJt365PclAJkfrtAYJZ1MnIFNRqk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QMNDPI8l/giLT6wf1O8wIrA+Maw05+diPsZts8gF9NyTWV9+YtWg3lUvoXMY5LRHoa Vl/TjEXyT/v5ZHhIqMoCIXXJplJ1Cj606QrsquymYGwRaNKH1aBLYh+B68IjRgSMtJA8 qKxCfzjz9OUAuVrtzyyVQ2tBAjxwOiz9qBWcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.53.85 with SMTP id l21mr219830fag.26.1304690807808; Fri, 06 May 2011 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:06:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Frank Shute Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 14:06:49 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it >> following advice in handbook: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html >> >> ran >> # freebsd-update fetch >> # freebsd-update install >> >> # portupgrade -af >> >> # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade >> >> then >> >> # freebsd-update install >> >> Tried to do this: >> # portupgrade -f ruby >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db >> # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db >> # portupgrade -af >> >> Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again >> >> # freebsd-update install >> >> and had nothing more to do :( >> >> I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : >> >> # portupgrade -arRp >> >> will this prompt me for customizations? > > Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm > updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens > before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade > hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the > options. > > As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you > don't want to change the default options. > So I should have used the -C/c flag like # portupgrade -CarRp before or after? I have encountered a few prompts :( and not done yet. But will continue to do this till it finishes. Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:13:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66214106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 15:13:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD698FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3241678wyf.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uxUkXcXN449/U2oXMxvRkcnO7+UDTCgOFnNtv6grtK8=; b=VNAwFtqxVhnWDgu5epiCYugjV6z4jWjiilKXt4AW8l+vzTkYOY6DRlKlRz5h0SCaYX iY3fiZEIg2e8yrEe08dbGqMrRYEDnhjKk8yqr8IN5Fw/wQ+KGk9L0ppAhOyPI5ROWzOk zni4EJJIactqwznPOXzOvXEMXqDV0S9JTkjy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vrR+22d6ws7Zl+qhvyvW3IMK/GxBXZlmwu2NzcLkWfy45pq/JoYwtwqjhw08bDabyS XNHlOn16UaFjXsIpcszjXWhJ47LRAFTldt2lIWTdlZioB54A+yYlvnbydcK/GNvBoUVn ezN9n40quraGwEE9c+IrwhvT79ND58IsGjwqk= Received: by 10.227.206.14 with SMTP id fs14mr4081934wbb.30.1304694833838; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:13:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-98.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o23sm2062527wbc.10.2011.05.06.08.13.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 08:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC41E3C.5000202@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:13:48 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: rox-filer problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:13:55 -0000 after sucessfuly install rox-filer, i seem to be unable to open any file using custom commands as show in "Set Run action..." what is wrong and how can i fix this in order to open files by double-clicking it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 15:26:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58261106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 15:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0B58FC13 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 15:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p46FQpfE031384; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:26:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p46FQp1s031381; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:26:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:26:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Doug Hardie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <20110506051935.GB2327@tinyCurrent> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 May 2011 09:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Matthias Apitz , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:26:52 -0000 On Thu, 5 May 2011, Doug Hardie wrote: > > Thanks. As best as I can tell the Brother unit has a modem built it, > but the only interface to it is via ethernet. I suspect it takes a > PDF and then sends that, much like printing. The Linux drivers should have scripts for this, like brpcfax and filterBRFAX. Maybe useful as a guide if not directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:00:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3ED5106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B3F8FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3822679bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hgy7u9mSA47AM1jI/26K98IeNwcY2s+vveeea2F69VY=; b=iFrBV2P9VTu/peWpqahw6DUVJmIJjVAoWtzmmRnbOFtAZqvUu1P+dO+uRfCCkzsD0p Of60hRVCH8RmLIjXmV0deg8hzV415bUsqCL5pR265TLkJnfUCiA3+zUBGvMfneShY2VL MlqeGakcRR2ZXJoBXm8JbRMQFCK2fl1V41WIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mtltq5MjGU8LZvYWL6PhnKAwrLp4I0vE05VTnyQ3ZtUBORpacuD9PdP71fDqO10BO5 rK+uzqfVOSa+LTXtXksHBeKtroATnthmmAjbxfTO2Q4srHjuzGIcdhyiQi8tAzAbFiAr wNhBFLTwISrTpguD08cSSseDBKVbBNMTeDZkE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.199 with SMTP id p7mr532880bkw.114.1304697649795; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:00:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Frank Shute Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:00:52 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 05:50:28PM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it >> following advice in handbook: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.htm= l >> >> ran >> # freebsd-update fetch >> # freebsd-update install >> >> # portupgrade -af >> >> # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade >> >> then >> >> # freebsd-update install >> >> Tried to do this: >> # portupgrade -f ruby >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db >> # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db >> # portupgrade -af >> >> Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again >> >> # freebsd-update install >> >> and had nothing more to do :( >> >> I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : >> >> # portupgrade -arRp >> >> will this prompt me for customizations? > > Yes it will. I usually use the -C flag of portupgrade when I'm > updating ports. This flag prompts you with all the options screens > before it does the update. That way you're not left with the upgrade > hanging half way through whilst it waits for you to configure the > options. > > As Polytropon says you can use the --batch flag if you know that you > don't want to change the default options. > >> >> Thanks in advance/advice/suggestions. =A0I am taking the plunge a little >> further. =A0Before I just installed and left it alone :( [except for a >> few packages that I wanted and ran/installed via ports ], now I am >> trying to learn more and setup the firewall. =A0I set up the simple >> example setup by Polytropon and most is working. =A0My freebsd version >> has moved to FreeBSD 8.2 >> >> >> >> [olivares@grullahighschool /usr/home/olivares]$ uname -a >> FreeBSD grullahighschool.rgccisd.org 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE >> #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 >> root@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC =A0amd64 >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Antonio > > Regards, > > -- > > =A0Frank > > =A0Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > > I am *stuck*, here's what I get at the end: ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - devel/automake110 (marked as IGNORE) - devel/libltdl22 (marked as IGNORE) - net/samba3 (marked as IGNORE) ! devel/qt4-moc (qt4-moc-4.6.3) (bad C++ code) ! devel/qt4-uic (qt4-uic-4.6.3) (bad C++ code) ! devel/qt4-rcc (qt4-rcc-4.6.3) (bad C++ code) ! audio/faad (faad2-2.7_2,1) (unknown build error) ! x11-fonts/libFS (libFS-1.0.2) (unknown build error) ! net/openldap24-client (openldap-client-2.4.23) (unknown build error) ! security/libntlm (libntlm-1.1) (unknown build error) ! devel/libsigc++20 (libsigc++-2.2.7) (unknown build error) ! x11/babl (babl-0.1.2) (unknown build error) ! devel/gettext (gettext-0.18_1) (unknown build error) * misc/help2man (help2man-1.38.2_1) * net-p2p/libtorrent (libtorrent-0.12.6_1) * misc/iso-codes (iso-codes-3.17) * devel/popt (popt-1.14_1) ! graphics/OpenEXR (OpenEXR-1.6.1_2) (unknown build error) * 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x11/xfce4-conf (xfce4-conf-4.6.2) * x11-toolkits/p5-Gtk2 (p5-Gtk2-1.221_3) * x11-toolkits/unique (unique-1.1.6_1) * graphics/libgnomecanvas (libgnomecanvas-2.30.1_1) * devel/libnotify (libnotify-0.4.5_4) * x11/zenity (zenity-2.30.0_1) * x11/avant-window-navigator (avant-window-navigator-0.3.2.1_6) * devel/libgsf (libgsf-1.14.18_1) * devel/gnome-vfs (gnome-vfs-2.24.3_1) * x11/libgnomekbd (libgnomekbd-2.30.1_1) * www/bluefish (bluefish-2.0.0_2) * devel/libgsf-gnome (libgsf-gnome-1.14.18) * editors/openoffice.org-3 (openoffice.org-3.2.1) * textproc/libwpd (libwpd-0.8.14_3) * x11/libgnome (libgnome-2.30.0_1) * x11-toolkits/libbonoboui (libbonoboui-2.24.3_1) * x11/libxfce4menu (libxfce4menu-4.6.2) * security/libgnome-keyring (libgnome-keyring-2.30.1_1) * security/gnome-keyring (gnome-keyring-2.30.1_2) * devel/goffice (goffice-0.8.5) * x11-themes/gtk-xfce-engine (gtk-xfce-engine-2.6.0_3) * audio/libcanberra (libcanberra-0.24_1) * sysutils/gnome-mount (gnome-mount-0.8_6) * graphics/libwpg (libwpg-0.1.3_4) * x11/libexo (libexo-0.3.107) * graphics/inkscape (inkscape-0.47_7) * audio/pulseaudio (pulseaudio-0.9.21_4) * sysutils/gnome-settings-daemon (gnome-settings-daemon-2.30.1_1) * misc/gnome-icon-theme (gnome-icon-theme-2.30.3) * mail/thunderbird (thunderbird-2.0.0.24_1) * textproc/wv (wv-1.2.7_1) * x11/Terminal (Terminal-0.4.5) * devel/libsoup (libsoup-2.30.1_1) * net/libgweather (libgweather-2.30.0_1) * databases/evolution-data-server (evolution-data-server-2.30.1_2) * devel/gvfs (gvfs-1.6.2_1) * x11/gnome-session (gnome-session-2.30.0_1) * x11-themes/gtk-engines2 (gtk-engines2-2.20.1_1) * graphics/librsvg2 (librsvg2-2.26.3_1) * devel/libsoup (gir-repository-libsoup-0.6.5_4) * x11/gnome-panel (gnome-panel-2.30.0_1) * graphics/gegl (gegl-0.1.2_1) * x11/gdm (gdm-2.30.2_1) * x11-toolkits/libgnomeui (libgnomeui-2.24.3_1) * www/webkit-gtk2 (webkit-gtk2-1.2.3) * graphics/gimp-app (gimp-app-2.6.9,1) * math/gnumeric (gnumeric-1.10.5) * graphics/gimp (gimp-2.6.9,2) * editors/zim (zim-0.28_4) * x11-fm/nautilus (nautilus-2.30.1_1) * graphics/evince (evince-2.30.1_2) * x11-toolkits/libxfce4gui (libxfce4gui-4.6.4) * print/xfce4-print (xfce4-print-4.6.1_6) * www/firefox35 (firefox-3.5.11,1) * graphics/ristretto (ristretto-0.0.91) * x11-wm/xfce4-panel (xfce4-panel-4.6.4) * x11/xfce4-screenshooter-plugin (xfce4-screenshooter-plugin-1.7.9_1) * audio/xfce4-mixer (xfce4-mixer-4.6.1_6) * deskutils/xfce4-xkb-plugin (xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.4.3_12) * sysutils/xfce4-systemload-plugin (xfce4-systemload-plugin-0.4.2_13) * x11-fm/thunar (Thunar-1.0.2) * misc/xfce4-appfinder (xfce4-appfinder-4.6.2) * x11-wm/xfce4-session (xfce4-session-4.6.2) * x11-wm/xfce4-desktop (xfce4-desktop-4.6.2) * editors/mousepad (mousepad-0.2.16_7) * x11-wm/xfce4-wm (xfce4-wm-4.6.2) * sysutils/xfce4-battery-plugin (xfce4-battery-plugin-0.5.1_8) * deskutils/orage (orage-4.6.1_6) * sysutils/xfce4-utils (xfce4-utils-4.6.2) * sysutils/xfce4-settings (xfce4-settings-4.6.5) * x11-wm/xfce4 (xfce-4.6.2) These are the ports that need updating: [olivares@grullahighschool ~]$ pkg_version -v | grep '<' ImageMagick-6.6.1.10 < needs updating (port has 6.6.7.10_1= ) ORBit2-2.14.18_1 < needs updating (port has 2.14.19) OpenEXR-1.6.1_2 < needs updating (port has 1.6.1_3) Terminal-0.4.5 < needs updating (port has 0.4.7) Thunar-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.2.1_1) appres-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) aspell-0.60.6_3 < needs updating (port has 0.60.6_5) atk-1.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 1.32.0) avahi-app-0.6.25_3 < needs updating (port has 0.6.29) avant-window-navigator-0.3.2.1_6 < needs updating (port has 0.3.2.1_7) babl-0.1.2 < needs updating (port has 0.1.4) bash-4.1.7 < needs updating (port has 4.1.10) bdftopcf-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) bison-2.4.1_1,1 < needs updating (port has 2.4.3,1) bitmap-1.0.4 < needs updating (port has 1.0.5) bluefish-2.0.0_2 < needs updating (port has 2.0.2_1) cairo-1.8.10_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.10.2_2,1= ) cairomm-1.8.4_1 < needs updating (port has 1.9.6) conky-1.8.0 < needs updating (port has 1.8.1_3) consolekit-0.4.1_4 < needs updating (port has 0.4.3) cups-base-1.4.3 < needs updating (port has 1.4.6_3) cups-client-1.4.3 < needs updating (port has 1.4.6) cups-image-1.4.3 < needs updating (port has 1.4.6) dbus-1.2.24_1 < needs updating (port has 1.4.6) dbus-glib-0.86_1 < needs updating (port has 0.88) dejavu-2.30_1 < needs updating (port has 2.33) doxygen-1.6.3_1 < needs updating (port has 1.7.3_1) enchant-1.4.2 < needs updating (port has 1.6.0) evince-2.30.1_2 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0_3) evolution-data-server-2.30.1_2 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1_1) faad2-2.7_2,1 < needs updating (port has 2.7_3,1) ffmpeg-0.5.2_3,1 < needs updating (port has 0.6.3_1,1) firefox-3.5.11,1 < needs updating (port has 3.5.19,1) fluxbox-1.1.1_2 < needs updating (port has 1.3.1) font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) font-alias-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-arabic-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-100dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-75dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-ttf-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bh-type1-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bitstream-100dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bitstream-75dpi-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-bitstream-type1-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-cronyx-cyrillic-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-cursor-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-daewoo-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-dec-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-ibm-type1-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-isas-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-jis-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-micro-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-misc-cyrillic-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-misc-meltho-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-misc-misc-1.1.0 < needs updating (port has 1.1.2) font-mutt-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-schumacher-misc-1.1.0 < needs updating (port has 1.1.2) font-screen-cyrillic-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) font-sony-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-sun-misc-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-winitzki-cyrillic-1.0.1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) font-xfree86-type1-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) freetype2-2.3.12 < needs updating (port has 2.4.4) gawk-3.1.7_1 < needs updating (port has 3.1.8) gconf2-2.28.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0_2) gdm-2.30.2_1 < needs updating (port has 2.30.5_2) gegl-0.1.2_1 < needs updating (port has 0.1.6) gettext-0.18_1 < needs updating (port has 0.18.1.1) ghostscript8-8.71_2 < needs updating (port has 8.71_6) gimp-2.6.9,2 < needs updating (port has 2.6.11,2) gimp-app-2.6.9,1 < needs updating (port has 2.6.11_2,1= ) gio-fam-backend-2.24.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.26.1) gir-repository-libsoup-0.6.5_4 < needs updating (port has 0.6.5_5) gkrellm-2.3.4_3 < needs updating (port has 2.3.5_1) glib-2.24.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.26.1_1) glibmm-2.24.2_2,1 < needs updating (port has 2.25.5,1) gmake-3.81_4 < needs updating (port has 3.82) gnome-desktop-2.30.0 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1_1) gnome-doc-utils-0.20.1_1 < needs updating (port has 0.20.3) gnome-icon-theme-2.30.3 < needs updating (port has 2.31.0_1) gnome-keyring-2.30.1_2 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1) gnome-menus-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.30.5) gnome-mount-0.8_6 < needs updating (port has 0.8_7) gnome-panel-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1) gnome-session-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1) gnome-settings-daemon-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1_1) gnome-vfs-2.24.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.24.4) gnumeric-1.10.5 < needs updating (port has 1.10.14) gnupg-1.4.10_2 < needs updating (port has 1.4.11) gnutls-2.8.6_1 < needs updating (port has 2.8.6_2) gobject-introspection-0.6.14 < needs updating (port has 0.9.12_1) goffice-0.8.5 < needs updating (port has 0.8.14) gstreamer-0.10.29_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10.32) gstreamer-plugins-0.10.29,3 < needs updating (port has 0.10.32,3) gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.23,3 < needs updating (port has 0.10.27,3) gtk-2.20.1_2 < needs updating (port has 2.22.1_1) gtk-engines2-2.20.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.20.2) gtk-xfce-engine-2.6.0_3 < needs updating (port has 2.8.1) gtkmm-2.20.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.22.0) gv-3.6.9 < needs updating (port has 3.7.2) gvfs-1.6.2_1 < needs updating (port has 1.6.6_1) hal-0.5.14_8 < needs updating (port has 0.5.14_13) help2man-1.38.2_1 < needs updating (port has 1.39.3) icewm-1.2.37_5 < needs updating (port has 1.3.7_1) imlib-1.9.15_11 < needs updating (port has 1.9.15_12) imlib2-1.4.1.000_9,2 < needs updating (port has 1.4.4,2) inkscape-0.47_7 < needs updating (port has 0.48.1) iso-codes-3.17 < needs updating (port has 3.25) jadetex-3.13_6 < needs updating (port has 3.13_7) latex-cjk-4.8.2_4 < needs updating (port has 4.8.2_5) libFS-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) libSM-1.1.1_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.1.1_3,1) libXaw-1.0.7,1 < needs updating (port has 1.0.8,1) libXfont-1.4.0,1 < needs updating (port has 1.4.3,1) libXmu-1.0.5,1 < needs updating (port has 1.1.0,1) libXt-1.0.7 < needs updating (port has 1.0.9) libbonobo-2.24.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0) libbonoboui-2.24.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.24.4) libcanberra-0.24_1 < needs updating (port has 0.26) libconfuse-2.6 < needs updating (port has 2.7) libexif-0.6.18_1 < needs updating (port has 0.6.20) libexo-0.3.107 < needs updating (port has 0.6.0) libgcrypt-1.4.5_1 < needs updating (port has 1.4.6) libglade2-2.6.4_3 < needs updating (port has 2.6.4_4) libgnome-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0) libgnome-keyring-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0) libgnomecanvas-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.30.3) libgnomekbd-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0) libgnomeui-2.24.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.24.4) libgpg-error-1.8 < needs updating (port has 1.10) libgphoto2-2.4.9.1 < needs updating (port has 2.4.10.1_2= ) libgsf-1.14.18_1 < needs updating (port has 1.14.20) libgsf-gnome-1.14.18 < needs updating (port has 1.14.20) libgweather-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.30.3) libkate-0.3.7_1 < needs updating (port has 0.3.7_2) libnotify-0.4.5_4 < needs updating (port has 0.5.2) libntlm-1.1 < needs updating (port has 1.2) libogg-1.2.0,4 < needs updating (port has 1.2.2,4) librsvg2-2.26.3_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1_1) libsigc++-2.2.7 < needs updating (port has 2.2.8) libsndfile-1.0.21_2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.24) libsoup-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.2) libspectre-0.2.5 < needs updating (port has 0.2.6) libtorrent-0.12.6_1 < needs updating (port has 0.12.7) libvorbis-1.3.1,3 < needs updating (port has 1.3.2,3) libwnck-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.30.6) libwpd-0.8.14_3 < needs updating (port has 0.9.1) libwpg-0.1.3_4 < needs updating (port has 0.2.0_1) libxfce4gui-4.6.4 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) libxfce4menu-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.0) libxfce4util-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) libxml++-2.30.0 < needs updating (port has 2.32.0) libxslt-1.1.26_1 < needs updating (port has 1.1.26_2) mercurial-1.5.4 < needs updating (port has 1.8.2) mkfontdir-1.0.5 < needs updating (port has 1.0.6) mkfontscale-1.0.7 < needs updating (port has 1.0.8) mousepad-0.2.16_7 < needs updating (port has 0.2.16_8) mplayer-1.0.r20100117_2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.r20110= 329) nautilus-2.30.1_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.2.1_1= ) netpbm-10.26.64_4 < needs updating (port has 10.35.80_2= ) open-motif-2.2.3_6 < needs updating (port has 2.3.3) openjade-1.3.3p1_1 < needs updating (port has 1.3.3p1_2) openldap-client-2.4.23 < needs updating (port has 2.4.25_2) openoffice.org-3.2.1 < needs updating (port has 3.3.0) orage-4.6.1_6 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) orc-0.4.6 < needs updating (port has 0.4.14) p5-Glib2-1.222 < needs updating (port has 1.223) p5-Gtk2-1.221_3 < needs updating (port has 1.223) pango-1.28.0_1 < needs updating (port has 1.28.3) pangomm-2.26.2_1 < needs updating (port has 2.26.3) pixman-0.16.6 < needs updating (port has 0.21.4) polkit-0.96_2 < needs updating (port has 0.99) polkit-gnome-0.96_4 < needs updating (port has 0.99) poppler-0.12.4 < needs updating (port has 0.14.5) poppler-gtk-0.12.4_1 < needs updating (port has 0.14.5) popt-1.14_1 < needs updating (port has 1.16) pulseaudio-0.9.21_4 < needs updating (port has 0.9.22) py26-cairo-1.8.8_1 < needs updating (port has 1.8.10) py26-gobject-2.21.1 < needs updating (port has 2.26.0) py26-gtk-2.17.0_4 < needs updating (port has 2.22.0_2) qt4-corelib-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) qt4-gui-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) qt4-moc-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) qt4-network-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2_1) qt4-rcc-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) qt4-uic-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) qt4-xml-4.6.3 < needs updating (port has 4.7.2) ristretto-0.0.91 < needs updating (port has 0.0.93) rtorrent-0.8.6_1 < needs updating (port has 0.8.7) schroedinger-1.0.9 < needs updating (port has 1.0.10) sdl-1.2.14_1,2 < needs updating (port has 1.2.14_2,2= ) shared-mime-info-0.71_1 < needs updating (port has 0.80_1) startup-notification-0.10_1 < needs updating (port has 0.10_2) teTeX-3.0_4 < needs updating (port has 3.0_5) teTeX-base-3.0_20 < needs updating (port has 3.0_21) texmaker-1.9.9_1,1 < needs updating (port has 3.0,1) thunderbird-2.0.0.24_1 < needs updating (port has 3.1.10) tiff-3.9.4 < needs updating (port has 4.0.0) twm-1.0.4 < needs updating (port has 1.0.6) unique-1.1.6_1 < needs updating (port has 1.1.6_2) upower-0.9.4_1 < needs updating (port has 0.9.7) vte-0.24.3 < needs updating (port has 0.26.2) webkit-gtk2-1.2.3 < needs updating (port has 1.2.7_1) wget-1.12_1 < needs updating (port has 1.12_3) wv-1.2.7_1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.9) x11perf-1.5.1 < needs updating (port has 1.5.3) xauth-1.0.4 < needs updating (port has 1.0.5) xcalc-1.0.3 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4.1) xdvik-tetex-22.84.16_2 < needs updating (port has 22.84.16_3= ) xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0 < needs updating (port has 1.5.0) xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 < needs updating (port has 1.6.0) xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 < needs updating (port has 6.14.1_1) xf86-video-intel-2.7.1_3 < needs updating (port has 2.7.1_4) xf86-video-mach64-6.8.2 < needs updating (port has 6.8.2_1) xf86-video-nv-2.1.17 < needs updating (port has 2.1.18) xf86-video-openchrome-0.2.904_2 < needs updating (port has 0.2.904_3) xf86-video-r128-6.8.1 < needs updating (port has 6.8.1_2) xf86-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_3 < needs updating (port has 1.3.0_4) xf86-video-vesa-2.3.0 < needs updating (port has 2.3.0_1) xf86-video-vmware-10.16.9 < needs updating (port has 11.0.3_1) xfce-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8) xfce4-appfinder-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.0) xfce4-battery-plugin-0.5.1_8 < needs updating (port has 1.0.0_1) xfce4-conf-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.0) xfce4-desktop-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.2) xfce4-mixer-4.6.1_6 < needs updating (port has 4.8.0) xfce4-panel-4.6.4 < needs updating (port has 4.8.3) xfce4-print-4.6.1_6 < needs updating (port has 4.6.1_7) xfce4-screenshooter-plugin-1.7.9_1 < needs updating (port has 1.7.9_2) xfce4-session-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) xfce4-settings-4.6.5 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) xfce4-systemload-plugin-0.4.2_13 < needs updating (port has 1.0.0_1) xfce4-utils-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1_1) xfce4-wm-4.6.2 < needs updating (port has 4.8.1) xfce4-xkb-plugin-0.4.3_12 < needs updating (port has 0.5.3.3) xhost-1.0.3 < needs updating (port has 1.0.4) xkill-1.0.2 < needs updating (port has 1.0.3) xmlrpc-c-devel-1.22.2 < needs updating (port has 1.25.3) xorg-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-apps-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-drivers-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-100dpi-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-75dpi-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-cyrillic-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-truetype-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-fonts-type1-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-libraries-7.5 < needs updating (port has 7.5.1) xorg-server-1.7.5,1 < needs updating (port has 1.7.7_1,1) xpdf-3.02_12 < needs updating (port has 3.02_16) xrdb-1.0.6 < needs updating (port has 1.0.6_1) xset-1.1.0 < needs updating (port has 1.2.1) xterm-261 < needs updating (port has 270) yasm-1.0.1_1 < needs updating (port has 1.1.0) zenity-2.30.0_1 < needs updating (port has 2.32.1) zh-docproj-0.1.20060303_4 < needs updating (port has 0.1.200603= 03_5) zim-0.28_4 < needs updating (port has 0.29) [olivares@grullahighschool ~]$ Any suggestions to start over and get this done in a more efficient manner. Thinking of nuking OpenOffice and installing LibreOffice. Will do that now and then when that is done. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:11:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9401065773 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E38F8FC1B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3834115bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZRRIgC8yPhpvUpGR5kG8HBrF4Tw5oSm8aGSwhqVSGsE=; b=Q4i2x1CkMJLRO/EsMk9/nUCMw69xrvXxQGofz+29Gjmu2/Z8U6thhRTopCu6slgiGX R2p1FUja+u0kxOqowNSvvh1NpGS0wtqphE9ZItD7h56/mZIvsO5u7YN3A6FE9++C38Q2 bDUBP+RT/19Pnb3MTRjUpgGpH8qF5uHwwqJ0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lR2+zKreVCas3AOD6mcWEklQpNdW1EzDvfW1hGS37ASMc/67jmu2NjZQTjkNkShdmP HhE8sduERmXRmt14svreGaLbc2WDnU7r11tT0Dkk9CHshC5PSkMxS476+8hBpBDqJr08 BO9NlWcitSvPw63gi/N5cT0I5cyzfgEHM/dPQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.74 with SMTP id n10mr1549971bkw.33.1304698317244; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:11:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506010434.GB60942@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:11:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Frank Shute , Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:11:59 -0000 > Any suggestions to start over and get this done in a more efficient > manner. =A0Thinking of nuking OpenOffice Done:) grullahighschool# cd openoffice.org-3 grullahighschool# ls Makefile distinfo files pkg-descr pkg-plist grullahighschool# make deinstall =3D=3D=3D> Deinstalling for editors/openoffice.org-3 =3D=3D=3D> Deinstalling openoffice.org-3.2.1 grullahighschool# > and installing LibreOffice. > Will do that now and then when that is done. > > Regards, > > Antonio > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:24:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25860106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aconraz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A801A8FC15 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3846326bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:24:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S2otCy5pXlrElMA1ffly2Y1rCiIL91xjm+X6g209twI=; b=V30vDD0+RTZ64c3LBULb4S2+Jpc0nzeAmGVN7ogFEzbHTr2zJsDC2v2W33Hg9y/pj3 i2ZIEsqyUl2MkIAWPXL0DUMOTDU93R40gbMpkcK9Cp2ZvISo1VBifDzUggHTqygoHEB1 0avYL0za1KTXw/A0GenhmW2kCFOPrOlheFH8c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uVO7OosuQIovZHGtsQiU3rVMUR4zA+qJnZYNQLZuy6G5EzBsXFzAHXSqz/TwcAG/n8 Ut+Axx21kVJpLkKWerzUsNLl92/zY3ei3tfrYMqibuUTbQYnOYmIA5b1y0yORi0mWS4K W6JP5DqvVEkFslaleDt/8Qsh5xC2IHrqSuc4c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.25.194 with SMTP id a2mr929839bkc.197.1304697468803; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.180.145 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:57:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: ALANO CONRAZ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: how to use cfs (cryptographic file system) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:24:02 -0000 Hello, In order to test cfs, i tried to set up a ciphered directory. Unfortunatelly, i failed... Documentation doesn't seem to be up-to-date, so it does not help much. Here is what I did : pkg_add "cfs package address" echo "/usr/local/cfs-bootstrap localhost" >> /etc/exports mkdir /crypt rcpbind -h 127.0.0.1 mountd -h 127.0.0.1 and then : /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cfsd onestart And I always get the same error : [tcp] localhost:/usr/local/cfsd-bootstrap: nfsd: RCPROG_NFS: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused and the same with [tcp6] Could you help me ? I had a look to mailing archives, but with no success. Thanks for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:32:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8589F106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:32:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aconraz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3C08FC08 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3855603bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iJkMdVGd5oYfD1x0qwSlhG2US+TbCgaZENVNu877lJ8=; b=tysrciMDaJPjr+YrgW+JonIHqR9CX/wIRI7BoMZ6FFYh3A7fsgAvH+Neu0ksLq7nZq SfADCR6s6gWvAU2sYM0Ywh3vPEhNXtXYY8HBhLW6j/J+WGlQDN7w9LKj4BeSfPrxRKzw ckwJI/DRuLtCqrwHpjbKpDarj1Pc2ata11mog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=HA7z5nqhipcgKAxKsbx+8o3BFWKJZUafo+18VbkO7S/ysiqstc985hflrqrbHABbpx l/aIJfgd+7va4tPvhqvYb+AxImoc+Hc6ldMGSXSvvzbNPyE3pvNK6Qw0A7YSD/Q36SAz C1DOsBwDQs7OkXxTPa6XlCgFn+At4U6HGCXGs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.128.85 with SMTP id j21mr2072666bks.89.1304697755036; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.180.145 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:02:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:02:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: ALANO CONRAZ To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: how to use cfs (cryptographic file system) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:32:50 -0000 Hello, In order to test cfs, i tried to set up a ciphered directory. Unfortunatelly, i failed... Documentation doesn't seem to be up-to-date, so it does not help much. Here is what I did : pkg_add "cfs package address" echo "/usr/local/cfs-bootstrap localhost" >> /etc/exports mkdir /crypt rcpbind -h 127.0.0.1 mountd -h 127.0.0.1 and then : /usr/local/etc/rc.d/cfsd onestart And I always get the same error : [tcp] localhost:/usr/local/cfsd-bootstrap: nfsd: RCPROG_NFS: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused and the same with [tcp6] Could you help me ? I had a look to mailing archives, but with no success. Thanks for your help! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:36:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AFB1065678 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:36:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A97B8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3858812bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eHaQyVZLLItKCg2BUFruSiWDMUJ1YlVd6slMNdt3xGE=; b=I4LBI8A8loIucdaiGVboaw64qoF4MSIEp5TR4IIGcPNxAWmIBMy71E59wCFPgAt66h gnneLuSM7Pv/rT17B9NYWjsair/kZLOxUDA2aS76qshqhC890uACsiT91AKoh84Z3X0x BzgVeRZk6TEkEIQKBeF0MIX43jKIcsI5cG4q8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GdaifVEY2yQjy2awxAXq5Q7hIEiKye1e7pLwwzYbslsecLWUeOjVenZzDPa3O2k6Dw +lGhh7fE3GNlP5uewK8NP3ZCYCJ89EXSDUkxeD0dwbKLSDHJUelUjxyrff253JgI9/zI vpRFvNkMtl4NCAtYsDT8MuFm1miXN6+W5U5jM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.74 with SMTP id n10mr1575931bkw.33.1304699767118; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:36:08 -0000 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I was running FreeBSD 8.1 and am in the process of updating it >> following advice in handbook: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.htm= l >> >> ran >> # freebsd-update fetch >> # freebsd-update install >> >> # portupgrade -af >> >> # freebsd-update -r 8.2-RELEASE upgrade >> >> then >> >> # freebsd-update install >> >> Tried to do this: >> # portupgrade -f ruby >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db >> # portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb >> # rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db >> # portupgrade -af >> >> Did not work correctly[too many customizations] and Tried again > > portupgrade is written in Ruby and uses ruby-bdb, so this may not work. -= f > is of questionable value. =A0Why not just cd to the port directories, and > 'make clean build deinstall install'? This is what I am running now ATM # cd /usr/ports/ # make clean build deinstall install Will it install all the ports? or only the ones that are installed? > >> # freebsd-update install >> >> and had nothing more to do :( >> >> I had many packages that need to be updated so I am running : >> >> # portupgrade -arRp > > -a is equivalent to -arR. =A0And that's building packages, which is not > necessary unless you want to copy them to another machine. > >> will this prompt me for customizations? > > Options menus? =A0Yes, the ports will ask on their own. =A0If you use the= -c or > -C options, portupgrade will do all of them at the start of the process. > Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 16:54:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070EA106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [82.138.248.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C053F8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 16:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markimac.fairfx.local (unknown [62.244.179.66]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ED457009; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:35:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4DC42368.3040902@exonetric.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:35:52 +0100 From: Mark Blackman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ALANO CONRAZ References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to use cfs (cryptographic file system) ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:54:03 -0000 ALANO CONRAZ wrote: > And I always get the same error : > [tcp] localhost:/usr/local/cfsd-bootstrap: nfsd: RCPROG_NFS: RPC: Remote > system error - Connection refused > and the same with [tcp6] You need to start nfsd? - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:09:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C4F1065675 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72BB8FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:09:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BE91D906; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p46H9fFm001620; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:41 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:09:45 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 11:36:07 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > This is what I am running now ATM > > # cd /usr/ports/ > # make clean build deinstall install > > Will it install all the ports? or only the ones that are installed? Oh, I've never tried that... "install all ports"... I even doubt this is possible. If you want to intendedly deinstall all _except_ the OS software, you can do this: # cd /usr/local # rm -rf * # mtree < /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist It's worth mentioning that this is a very hard method. Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra- structure. # cd /var/db/pkg # pkg_delete -fad or # pkg_delete -f * This should remove all ports in a clean way. You can also remove stuff from /usr/ports/distfiles and /usr/ports/packages. Then make sure you have updated your ports tree. In case you also want an OS update, do it _now_ (i. e. prior to dealing with ports). In case you keep using portupgrade (and therefore portinstall), maybe in combination with pkg_add -r if you prefer - like me :-) - installing binary packages, make sure that you run BEFORE and AFTER each "big step", just to be sure # pkgdb -aF This keeps portinstall's own database in sync with what you are doing on your system with other tools. Oh, and you can _still_ use "make install" like installations directly from the ports tree - no problem. Another "secret": Start with installing one of the bigger software packages you need, as this will pull in many of the dependencies, and you don't have to install those first, by hand. If you want to compile, use gmencoder for example, and select all options you need (remember to do "make config-recursive" before "make install"). Sometimes, you'll find it's easier to begin with a new software installation from scratch. Maybe this is a good moment to do so. :-) And a sidenote: If you intend to use the packages you've build on a different system (to install them there), use "make package", or much easier with portupgrade or portinstall: use the -p option. This will place precompiled (haha) binary packages in /usr/ports/packages that you can transfer to another system and install with them with pkg_add there - VERY handy solution! -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:14:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7D01065670 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4968FC15 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p46HEktl032030; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:14:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p46HEks4032027; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:14:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:14:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 May 2011 11:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:14:47 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > This is what I am running now ATM > > # cd /usr/ports/ > # make clean build deinstall install > > Will it install all the ports? or only the ones that are installed? It's going to try to install all 22,000 ports. That won't succeed due to conflicts, but it may take a while to get there. Quicker overall would be to read the Handbook ports chapter. You may also find my Upgrading FreeBSD Ports article helpful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:31:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31883106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE37F8FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:31:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so1329252eyg.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:30:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.7.1 with SMTP id 1mr1954261eeo.245.1304703059199; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.250.142.186] In-Reply-To: <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:31:01 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: > I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For the > last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF and > other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too. Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the norm. Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. It also seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' offices. These are conservative industries where email (and especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system, though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:49:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60361106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51998FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3927626bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:49:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=77C5Kph88FpPduJEZLVnORzi24J1GTGOVFKGugASplc=; b=tvb0kWe56NI63hPQlvS6UzDB8+oDF9TvtS5vaONqSInJnJhf3UV/oes/lqFQryZMPU Ej15bqN4blL051Mnyxp6DLILeHHIXA6slCR/zXh+zLqOgChG5T5WJSPqK6GLxeCevzhW jiMeZLfoZl2KVBuIu7PD7HPsawI+EMKg/io54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Tm/OB4r0Wkz3LMiLYIawhXdKnBpPDADvGlG1jyrFVNmknh3nKId3nQUfZe2VwyHneY TQshwGHxQK+axlFpoWNDYKd2x5x6yuPOHlv4HK3/rhSsN1hHjSnSbyrlQtW/40W4+tOl ftXDFlJJ4H+nHcmg9/5TJwFVgsVdJ/0JVQz/s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.20.66 with SMTP id e2mr933986bkb.141.1304704162523; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 10:49:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:49:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:49:28 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> This is what I am running now ATM >> >> # cd /usr/ports/ >> # make clean build deinstall install >> >> Will it install all the ports? =A0 or only the ones that are installed? > > It's going to try to install all 22,000 ports. =A0That won't succeed due = to > conflicts, but it may take a while to get there. Stopped it with CTRL+C and > > Quicker overall would be to read the Handbook ports chapter. =A0You may a= lso > find my Upgrading FreeBSD Ports article helpful: > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html > Have run the suggested commands # portsnap fetch extract # portsnap fetch install the ports tree is updated. Now portmaster was not installed, installed it # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/ # make install clean now I am running /usr/local/sbin/portmaster -L --index-only | egrep 'total install|versions|New version' and see the packages that need updating, but to update I am running: # portmaster -na > /tmp/portorder.txt and will get back after this is done to see how to proceed. Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:50:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EC9106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E998FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ED11E20D; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p46HolMN001777; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:47 +0200 From: Polytropon To: David Brodbeck Message-Id: <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:50:49 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: > > I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For the > > last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF and > > other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too. The paperless office is an utopium since the 60's, and it will be, as printing gets cheaper and cheaper. :-( > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > norm. Don't just think about "big industries", also keep small businesses in mind - LOTS of them. A manager writes a letter, prints it, faxes it to the secretary, she then types it, prints it, and faxes it back to the manager. In case the manager requires some changes, he phones her, or makes annotations to her fax and faxes it back. Then she processes the changes and faxes the result again. On both sides, it's an inkpee fax. If it's not used heavily enough, it will dry out. You think: Stupid! Inefficient! Expensive! Fully correct. And it's more the _norm_ than the exception, at least here in Germany. There are enough businesses that could invest in a computer-driven fax system (storage instead of paper, printing if and ONLY IF required), but they are too lazy in mind. > Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. This has to do with a legal situation in many cases. A fax, unlike an e-mail, is often said to have a status like "letter with receipt", so the statement: "You did get the message." can be made from sending a fax and applying the receipt printed by the fax machine (sending report). Also printing a text, signing it, and then faxing it makes it look "more legal". > It also > seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' > offices. These are conservative industries where email (and > especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. Except it's a greeting card with a dancing bunny that requires you to download SALES.XLS.EXE and have fun. :-) > A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system, > though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper. In "bigger business", this may very well apply, as the "huge blocks of software" used there traditionally include such solutions. Small and medium businesses that use "one size fits all" kind of software tend to stick to traditional methods, and in many cases (I've SEEN them!) they combine them with inefficient methods and expensive operations. In the past, I've also used the hylafax port with a regular external serial modem, and it worked perfectly. I think the moden was an... Elsa? MicroLink something? Looked like a green toy, but worked very well. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:53:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653251065674 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B338FC08 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3931249bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1fmOgFr2IbV0Y5crT/97jgXmsNO6ikhcSPtlVHtBNvM=; b=KC4HtOSpksFmU3vdkEkFb30NQ8mzfCQ+3lbR9PZmF1+2lF8RwFW7nQ0TA8WAOXhgiF 82PNV2srRPYuw/Etk8kDOVnmVqowyBmR0G4wF6/iU8u3P6VQGwDGGD5+FaAbqBjf11PV BQ2dixzRaehaTAhgnmu35WYiZLjbuOJPn2r0U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aAnVjkOGPLPzSaes0g1KTu6K5g/PJikKsBnEOWcWkdeOFZnQ9CIxySswU9RbuWhih+ GnDZV/zFA676pZnazduCm2jPwWOxsYDAaYHXB5jcGg2pRfFRBMNSDUU596Dh2+9p2N5f p1UDnK2bzca6sb8FVNnzgoqkhN/6liNepcMd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.126.38 with SMTP id a38mr639568bks.195.1304704385618; Fri, 06 May 2011 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 12:53:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:53:07 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 11:36:07 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> This is what I am running now ATM >> >> # cd /usr/ports/ >> # make clean build deinstall install >> >> Will it install all the ports? =A0 or only the ones that are installed? > > Oh, I've never tried that... "install all ports"... I even > doubt this is possible. > > If you want to intendedly deinstall all _except_ the OS > software, you can do this: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cd /usr/local > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# rm -rf * > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# mtree < /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist > > It's worth mentioning that this is a very hard method. > Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra- > structure. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cd /var/db/pkg > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -fad > > or > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -f * > > This should remove all ports in a clean way. You can also > remove stuff from /usr/ports/distfiles and /usr/ports/packages. > > Then make sure you have updated your ports tree. In case > you also want an OS update, do it _now_ (i. e. prior to > dealing with ports). > > In case you keep using portupgrade (and therefore portinstall), > maybe in combination with pkg_add -r if you prefer - like > me :-) - installing binary packages, make sure that you > run BEFORE and AFTER each "big step", just to be sure > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkgdb -aF > > This keeps portinstall's own database in sync with what > you are doing on your system with other tools. Oh, and you > can _still_ use "make install" like installations directly > from the ports tree - no problem. > > Another "secret": Start with installing one of the bigger > software packages you need, as this will pull in many of > the dependencies, and you don't have to install those > first, by hand. If you want to compile, use gmencoder > for example, and select all options you need (remember > to do "make config-recursive" before "make install"). > > Sometimes, you'll find it's easier to begin with a new > software installation from scratch. Maybe this is a good > moment to do so. :-) > > And a sidenote: > > If you intend to use the packages you've build on a > different system (to install them there), use "make package", > or much easier with portupgrade or portinstall: use > the -p option. This will place precompiled (haha) > binary packages in /usr/ports/packages that you can > transfer to another system and install with them > with pkg_add there - VERY handy solution! > > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > I am trying out portmaster. Have stuck with command # portmaster -na > /tmp/portorder.txt but it is hanging there. Will go to lunch before doing anything. Then ready to proceed. Thanks, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 17:54:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CD51065672 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:54:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FE28FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 17:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p46HsrxU032141; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:54:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p46Hsrlr032138; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:54:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:54:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 May 2011 11:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Antonio Olivares Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:54:56 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: > Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra- > structure. > > # cd /var/db/pkg > # pkg_delete -fad > > or > > # pkg_delete -f * These are both equivalent to # pkg_delete -a From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:15:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C721065675 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A8C8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so1342700eyg.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.7.1 with SMTP id 1mr1993783eeo.245.1304705725041; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.47.11 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:15:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [173.250.142.186] In-Reply-To: <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 11:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:15:26 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Polytropon wrote: > In the past, I've also used the hylafax port with a > regular external serial modem, and it worked perfectly. > I think the moden was an... Elsa? MicroLink something? > Looked like a green toy, but worked very well. I've used it with US Robotics modems, the cheap "Sportster" consumer ones. I imagine you can pick these up for a pittance now on the used market. What I found was the sending compatibility of the US Robotics modem was really good, but the receive compatibility wasn't quite as good as our Multitech; a few machines had trouble sending to the US Robotics modem. I used it as a send-only modem in our Hylafax system in order to avoid tying up the Multitech. We were a small manufacturing company and when we got a project started it wasn't unusual for our purchasing department to send off three dozen faxes in rapid succession and get faxed replies back for each one. We had incoming DID with each number routed to a different email address. Hylafax handled it really well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:27:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2251065672 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (mail1.sourcehosting.net [74.205.51.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322158FC16 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 68-189-245-235.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com ([68.189.245.235] helo=cube.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QIPis-000L2i-H0; Fri, 06 May 2011 14:25:59 -0400 Received: from v104.entropy.prv (v104.entropy.prv [192.168.1.104]) by cube.entropy.prv (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38114DBA207; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DC43DA9.60505@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 14:27:53 -0400 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael References: <4DC3015D.7060500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC3015D.7060500@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=1C940290 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.189.245.235 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: glarkin@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail1.sourcehosting.net X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL, RDNS_DYNAMIC, TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail1.sourcehosting.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 Shared object "libkipi.so.7" not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:27:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5/5/11 3:58 PM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having hard times with digikam. It used to work properly but then, > after one of the updates (I'm not able to track it) it stopped. > > When I try to run digikam I'm getting this error message: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libkipi.so.7" not found, required > by "digikam" > > I've tried to rebuild digikam and all dependencies but it's still the > same. My ports tree is updated. I'm running FreeBSD 8.2-R on amd64 and > digikam-kde4 port. > > Any ideas please? > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi Michael, Can you rebuild digikam, capture all of the output and post it here so we can see what's going on during the configuration stage? I started a build here, and it was happy with the libkipi that it found in /usr/local/kde4/lib/libkipi.so.8. It's still in progress, so maybe it still won't run, but it would be helpful to see your build output anyway. Regards, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3EPakACgkQ0sRouByUApAUcgCgrE0IgbPxrenEHzwIzKlbkY+L DpYAn2gg0RC6HY78O/OtjPDC455o3lrY =aW3I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:52:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8670E106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0919C8FC0C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3985099bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MpLPfsi7v32GX1AGriinh6GiMrqCJ0om5h4qOl3IHK4=; b=DckSMm1G49Y2+S+klbhHoEgT6x/2s0M9QkwoxOCHueeY1kWjLiitgyj8wOSnkVOZnQ vTYLOXoYj3RkdkSiWfEJCPoYqnV2urKhHRADpVkTuhJT01Q24xItHr99Efmt0ACXBFOK pk6dz/i/vwR7bkMoCk+DQr046ojw+J2+CZRaY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gf0L2tgM50xNtCmgz5JvTtpfUqM8hSZYAivtL/5zIIOk8O6EOMxAf6cQ59CgErQ2iA ag24K1vuof55pMZcO71TtB8oMmIFH2yGpe77JJHot3CcmvhSQAj2RKq21E7TvGUBSg+8 Db9tRu6aZxjvu64yzwyUObpz5UOTiP3ld0VRc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.199 with SMTP id p7mr715093bkw.114.1304707928612; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:52:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:52:10 -0000 Warren, Sorry to ask, but what does one run after we run # portmaster -na I have cleared all questions and am ready to update, what magical command will do it? Thanks, Antonio On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: > >> Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra- >> structure. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cd /var/db/pkg >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -fad >> >> or >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -f * > > These are both equivalent to > =A0# pkg_delete -a > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 18:57:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D56106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4AE8FC19 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 18:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so3989292bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yqk9YfYSAm4BNEyn0FoDzdyRTaPFshv1fXJb030xUws=; b=W3bNnzlwbIJ7fEibE7iNAq9/PIljK0SedzDXR7XObPN9zKIlWi1vWoZXG9y3vsaoyk e2Bh6tY9NcWI3uzen8AKx/KJu3bskn0lx77Zuzex/sfG05oSUmyDvVOSuICa5kHbLJkP WMjy+4yzAQB/bRr0fk2tSuvtwx4OS5TTWW2Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VTWLr3gIspDWZhINGbJi9fQJKi+aVcRq/AM3cTtp/dD3i9WFNA7Ity13g/p47VMGG1 +LsGeqcOppZaFKVtWEq597GRhNxx8MSRMZfhBlrsUe2DehaWxS2d6hTukx3QOxskjEmj f+mYYDyb7naYlsDpw3WVyWymY3HdPtuQR0vHA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.70 with SMTP id n6mr3460914bka.87.1304708221485; Fri, 06 May 2011 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:57:03 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Warren, > > Sorry to ask, but what does one run after we run > # portmaster -na > > I have cleared all questions and am ready to update, what magical > command will do it? > > Thanks, > > Antonio > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 6 May 2011, Polytropon wrote: >> >>> Maybe it's much better if you utilize the ports infra- >>> structure. >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# cd /var/db/pkg >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -fad >>> >>> or >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0# pkg_delete -f * >> >> These are both equivalent to >> =A0# pkg_delete -a >> > Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run # portmaster -a -f -D and do an in place update of all ports? is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding? Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:19:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08267106564A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:19:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB5B8FC16 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3450055wyf.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 12:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t2mU/kkPPsmA0tP67+ovhgXxR533zAd3BynfyZzHy5E=; b=BJFKeJZ07y7pCPjubVNiqYXpdBpF+BSGCUvmmPwhYETIqJ4JJ+30JE/nOV964YyZpW HlYyDKpVPQQpu1FPMHzXBahbMVS0XSB9JQCC98c3TsXJ6V4nWgPH47IFuHPfAFp5++ES vwFfzopY8sE2Hl1ad6+dlbsrGEoFDdoejn5mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Spi5aiFIh5HYxUKHhqjIr+rwT8X3H1Y3OzandlYiIzf1MxzpGKQ/ICXMob4bZULV6L XPD0cVF9+dMsrOzh/WQCKlsMXI9tx4N2KuaAvg7pitkRTTVEnliewBzbjZA3/QuSX7bN WfbfAt6CSlvsr7UjsDihy0Tza3AzKcLE9hA7w= Received: by 10.216.156.70 with SMTP id l48mr698695wek.5.1304709596428; Fri, 06 May 2011 12:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-98.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ca12sm2190415wbb.2.2011.05.06.12.19.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 12:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC457E8.3090402@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:19:52 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: gnome desktop manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 19:19:59 -0000 im using fluxbox but i want to add gnome desktop manager after the boot in order to have a GUI manager for select which users i want to log on, what is the way to accomplish this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:39:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80E1106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB548FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5945B1E30B; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:39:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p46Jdp8W002791; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:39:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:39:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pwnedomina Message-Id: <20110506213951.89d2028a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC457E8.3090402@gmail.com> References: <4DC457E8.3090402@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome desktop manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 19:39:53 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2011 20:19:52 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: > im using fluxbox but i want to add gnome desktop manager after the boot > in order to have a GUI manager for select which users i want to log on, > what is the way to accomplish this? Install gdm (the Gnome _display_ manager) from the x11/gdm port and add a line for it to /etc/ttys (instead of the default xdm line you find there). It should be something like ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/gdm" xterm off secure But check the documentaton of gdm, as well as the FreeBSD Gnome project (from the main web page). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 19:43:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C95106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E2D8FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:43:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133D31E18D; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p46JhEqC002804; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:43:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:43:14 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Antonio Olivares Message-Id: <20110506214314.31f94066.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 19:43:16 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 13:57:01 -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run > # portmaster -a -f -D > > and do an in place update of all ports? > is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding? In case you did already remove all installed ports, you need to install them (portinstall command). You can do a port upgrade only for ports that are installed, as the system doesn't keep a "which ports have been installed before they got removed" database automatically. You need to use portmaster, the "make install" framework or pkg_add -r to install the ports you want to have on your system. I hope I did understand your statement correctly. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:09:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0A9106566B for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 20:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D138FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 20:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so3485300wyf.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 13:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vujJUItLkV4UKJig7EVDNqU2/vq0vUtBNJnoj2KDY2E=; b=k1WkgjO676iNXmC6L1ctdn+q+sGvgoe2oU5ZLqmO60sCRFrfEmi+JyYqtb1kt5hUUp rJs1+czfXIotc1z2S9sEi9aEdvTDxVq/chXQatZ37ZmvzWv8pEec5xwfv1r7TuD5Tumf bUNGtSgZvcCQxtMLkVR/i7KCLSi72lKrNHoX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xmEXdqjOsRvY51UIDc0oXMLdJF4zQoDUpLw5CtTO3n/nFGRACKeOaPjJoCIs6Lf4Pt GzIQnA+aqefacAIyQWfVxMK0qxZvk2zV4qonr89dX7LChDLczqdmEG98+3JZ7cXkdq/L BaJCkBzZ5duyod9r7JgbgtAv/h/D4VHsrfYq0= Received: by 10.227.11.148 with SMTP id t20mr4208625wbt.98.1304712548882; Fri, 06 May 2011 13:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-98.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm2208288wbd.38.2011.05.06.13.09.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 13:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC46370.4020801@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 21:09:04 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4DC457E8.3090402@gmail.com> <20110506213951.89d2028a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110506213951.89d2028a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome desktop manager X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:09:10 -0000 Em 06-05-2011 19:39, Polytropon escreveu: > On Fri, 06 May 2011 20:19:52 +0000, pwnedomina wrote: >> im using fluxbox but i want to add gnome desktop manager after the boot >> in order to have a GUI manager for select which users i want to log on, >> what is the way to accomplish this? > Install gdm (the Gnome _display_ manager) from the > x11/gdm port and add a line for it to /etc/ttys > (instead of the default xdm line you find there). > > It should be something like > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/gdm" xterm off secure > > But check the documentaton of gdm, as well as the > FreeBSD Gnome project (from the main web page). > > ive already found other solution, im using SLiM graphical login manager, thanks for the help anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 20:43:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8416B1065673 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 20:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC1D8FC14 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 20:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p46KhgM0032593; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:43:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p46Khga0032590; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:43:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 14:43:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 06 May 2011 14:43:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:43:45 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares > > Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run > # portmaster -a -f -D > > and do an in place update of all ports? > is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding? After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the ports tree, and install only the needed ports. Right now you may have many installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:17:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC541065673 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD588FC12 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.local (unknown [189.152.15.136]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FEA51C0841 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:17:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC4654C.2020902@locolomo.org> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 16:17:00 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 21:17:14 -0000 Hi: This is a generic question about may, should and must: I have the following setup: 192.168.28/24 +---------------+ |.196 |.1 SRV GW--------- RN |.28 |.1 +---------------+ 10.225.162/24 The server, SRV, has default gateway set to 192.168.28.1, no routing has been configured for the 10.225.162/24 network. The gateway is a router, no NAT or firewall. Yup, we do have this setup, don't ask why. Now, the remote node RN pings the server on 192.168.28.196 fine, no problem. Then it pings 10.225.162.28 and get destination unreachable. OK, so I did tcpdump first on the 10.225.162.28 interface, and saw icmp echo requests coming in, but no replies going out. Then I did tcpdump on the other interface and got this: 13:39:43.233419 arp who-has 192.168.28.1 tell 10.225.162.28 obviously no reply, wrong network. So, the system strips the link layer and completely forgets about it? with the added overhead of having to figure things out again to send a reply? Since the server also keeps an updated arp table it's not like the link layer is completely delegated to the nic to take care of. For incoming connections, I would assume that the link address is preserved for replying, no need to send any arp requests. This also means that no routing would need to be defined on the 10.225.162.28 interface to receive connections from non-local nodes. What is the may/should/must protocol recommendation on this? I can't figure whether keeping the link layer for the reply will introduce loop problems or rather solve them. Thanks, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 21:59:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4409F1065670 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B0D8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4136848bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 14:59:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FuC8cOniNRnD1/cGCNiPNDzzqeQ8l1qoJ6HHrqJe1lY=; b=msT3PRJz8NR5dp1MPYeW9V4APOZsaO+OhnimhMSVR1AkplO+WfO9Rk8jZTpE6F3DEz R3hAf85hOXOL3EQX0rw+Nsu47rJgcGiJO3CE288TyrYeUNX86w4J5xR2mjycdkf7XYRL PEayv6RbItgk9nHtBqai33Duga1/uGMEJxZNA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rvYGtYKCoXCQetMzlLhnaizbuf9i3rrF8wFOwkLChmT8PyqKcBMC3yimrItjNEZh8r 2jWyqmmA+WFLd3KVWOeVPmVxPI0ngynVaZDI39p5ijMroWzUzS79Bse4/p0IWTXyVMdd KeEHHgzUzS7QQ3fmbLJq88G6/+oflfgVB5+yU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.199 with SMTP id p7mr841022bkw.114.1304719150280; Fri, 06 May 2011 14:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 14:59:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:59:10 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 21:59:12 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares >> >> Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run >> # portmaster -a -f -D >> >> and do an in place update of all ports? >> is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding? > > After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the ports > tree, and install only the needed ports. =A0Right now you may have many > installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted. > I am following the advice given in man portmaster: Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your ports: 1. portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list Print only the ports that have available updates. This can be used as= an alias in your shell. Be sure to fix the line wrapping appropriately. portmaster -L | egrep -B1 '(ew|ort) version|Aborting|installed|dependencies| IGNORE|marked|Reason:|MOVED|deleted|exist|update' | grep -v '^--= ' 2. Update your ports tree 3. portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles 4. portmaster --check-port-dbdir 5. portmaster -Faf 6. pkg_delete -a 7. rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg 8. Back up any files in /usr/local you wish to save, such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc 9. Manually check /usr/local and /var/db/pkg to make sure that they are really empty 10. Re-install portmaster 11. portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` Mostly everything is step 11 :) Will come back hopefully with a fully updated machine. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 6 23:10:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0208106566C for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539448FC17 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 23:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk27 with SMTP id 27so3570796qyk.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.216.6 with SMTP id hg6mr4094148qab.186.1304723402205; Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (twdp-174-109-142-001.nc.res.rr.com [174.109.142.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s16sm2992854qco.1.2011.05.06.16.09.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3QR82Z5PTNz2CG4n for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:58 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110506190958.09bf60bf@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 23:10:03 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:47 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700, David Brodbeck > wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman > > wrote: > > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > > norm. > > Don't just think about "big industries", also keep small > businesses in mind - LOTS of them. A manager writes a > letter, prints it, faxes it to the secretary, she then > types it, prints it, and faxes it back to the manager. > In case the manager requires some changes, he phones > her, or makes annotations to her fax and faxes it back. > Then she processes the changes and faxes the result > again. On both sides, it's an inkpee fax. If it's not > used heavily enough, it will dry out. Are you joking? Why would anyone create a document, print it and then FAX it? I create documents all the time in MS Word and then FAX the document directly to the intended recipient. No printing required. And why would the manager FAX it to a secretary to be transcribed and printed then FAXed back? There are so many solutions to this that the only answer that I can conceive of in this situation is that you are describing an office environment from the 60's, unless you were just joking to begin with. > You think: Stupid! Inefficient! Expensive! Absolutely > Fully correct. And it's more the _norm_ than the exception, > at least here in Germany. > > There are enough businesses that could invest in a > computer-driven fax system (storage instead of paper, > printing if and ONLY IF required), but they are too > lazy in mind. > > > Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. > > This has to do with a legal situation in many cases. > A fax, unlike an e-mail, is often said to have a status > like "letter with receipt", so the statement: "You > did get the message." can be made from sending a fax > and applying the receipt printed by the fax machine > (sending report). > > Also printing a text, signing it, and then faxing it > makes it look "more legal". My legal signature has been scanned and stored so that I can simply add it to any document I created sans the whole wasteful printing operation, assuming that I do not require a hard copy. > > It also > > seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' > > offices. These are conservative industries where email (and > > especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. It is legal in many locals in the US to FAX a prescription into a pharmacy. The same applies to many legal documents for use in courts, etcetera. I have never seen an e-mailed document accepted though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:26:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BA01065676 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net (mail6.surf-town.net [212.97.132.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A9B8FC17 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1B2601FF7D; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:09:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EC91FD5C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:09:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw5.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw5.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bZyPscnVLRoV for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 68BED2014C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:26:59 -0000 Hello all, I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a combination of two or more of them? TIA, Rolf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:28:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728001065672; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1738C8FC12; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxl31 with SMTP id 31so1724321yxl.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:28:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sKeW1dU7Yf5Ty4EthBTm/owZdwL58QaYRzcIlgqDUcQ=; b=hAh+yejMXV2EMoQxCJahvYwRQaXavtx/u6ErSwZ3zB3iZkhm2+eLUDY3GLqerFb2Eh 7SivVQ4paha7KTGp+SkJh8gZeeqpFRbfCX359/YensK2XQgzdeRqO/bk97886oVZkg5S t4cfwrSkwNjQDlGQgZhzTBqpIGJDk5a98zlUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NlOCvWWpUL7UQ7piXzR75EakEPJXKIURY50KVnTsWUz3e8vYsuy+Gci9DdNTcZGCEg IVRchpc7hgvSzJqgNh3DRpQxlrul/Ofglvrg/H6RqrwcmhyLAWJH2ZmQoKShGQOpenKW gJbF/6vtCBtDfgnRtAQLvLbS9tivUuAFQ59vs= Received: by 10.150.55.10 with SMTP id d10mr230613yba.21.1304726444276; Fri, 06 May 2011 17:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas9-toronto63-1088755653.dsl.bell.ca [64.229.23.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p23sm44538ybc.29.2011.05.06.17.00.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 17:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC48BAA.6020006@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:00:42 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110430 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: what to do with multimedia/xvid4conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:28:01 -0000 pkgdb -Ff ---> Checking the package registry database Stale origin: 'multimedia/xvid4conf': perhaps moved or obsoleted. -> The port 'multimedia/xvid4conf' was removed on 2011-05-02 because: "Has expired: Upstream has disapear and distfile is no more available" -> Hint: xvid4conf-1.12_5 is required by the following package(s): subtitleripper-0.3.4_5 dvdrip-0.98.11_3 transcode-1.1.5_15 tovid-0.30_9 -> Hint: checking for overwritten files... -> No files installed by xvid4conf-1.12_5 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall xvid4conf-1.12_5 ? [no] Since it's required by other ports, removing it will break them, so I have to be harassed by this message every time I update my ports? Is there a way to "hide" this? -- I am currently away on leave, traveling through time and will be returning last week. Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:31:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902D11065687 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7FF8FC18 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A261C3CA8C; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:31:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p470Vc7D003603; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:31:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:31:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Message-Id: <20110507023138.753e9021.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110506190958.09bf60bf@scorpio> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110506195047.621c5d13.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110506190958.09bf60bf@scorpio> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Jerry Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:31:42 -0000 On Fri, 6 May 2011 19:09:58 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 19:50:47 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > On Fri, 6 May 2011 10:30:58 -0700, David Brodbeck > > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman > > > wrote: > > > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > > > norm. > > > > Don't just think about "big industries", also keep small > > businesses in mind - LOTS of them. A manager writes a > > letter, prints it, faxes it to the secretary, she then > > types it, prints it, and faxes it back to the manager. > > In case the manager requires some changes, he phones > > her, or makes annotations to her fax and faxes it back. > > Then she processes the changes and faxes the result > > again. On both sides, it's an inkpee fax. If it's not > > used heavily enough, it will dry out. > > Are you joking? No, I'm not. I've actually SEEN that MYSELF, more than one time, and after asking, I was told that was the "normal" procedure for correspondency! Unbelievable you say? Sure, but REALITY. > Why would anyone create a document, print it and then > FAX it? I create documents all the time in MS Word and then FAX the > document directly to the intended recipient. No printing required. I know this is possible. It would even be possible to use the normal way of e-mail for that. But it isn't done. In this specific company, my "house of horrors" where every sin in IT is "business as usual", pirated copies of incom- patible versions of "Word" are also typical. Those who work there are hardly able to do the simplest "tricks" of cheap word processing, so how could one expect they'd be able to send an e-mail? > And > why would the manager FAX it to a secretary to be transcribed and > printed then FAXed back? Because they've "always done that, and it works". Investing few time into (1st) installing a paperless fax solution and (2nd) training the employees to properly use it is too much. So they keep wasting paper, ink, power, money. But as I mentioned before, they safe a lot of money by using illegal software. :-) > There are so many solutions to this that the > only answer that I can conceive of in this situation is that you are > describing an office environment from the 60's, unless you were just > joking to begin with. Ha! It's of TODAY! And NO joke! > > You think: Stupid! Inefficient! Expensive! > > Absolutely Well, _me_ too, but my suggestions is just "too complicated", and they would be "cost-intensive". You know that the majority of users who do not have a clue about what they're doing are resistent to any argumentation and learning. > > > Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. > > > > This has to do with a legal situation in many cases. > > A fax, unlike an e-mail, is often said to have a status > > like "letter with receipt", so the statement: "You > > did get the message." can be made from sending a fax > > and applying the receipt printed by the fax machine > > (sending report). > > > > Also printing a text, signing it, and then faxing it > > makes it look "more legal". > > My legal signature has been scanned and stored so that I can simply add > it to any document I created sans the whole wasteful printing > operation, assuming that I do not require a hard copy. That's the problem. Certain fields of post-use (e. g. tax matters, insurance issues or documentation in procedures of law) require a hardcopy. In _those_ cases, it's okay to use paper. In many other cases, it's just a waste of resources, and finally of money. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:33:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1601065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328D38FC1E for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6DF3D4ED; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:33:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p470XPBl003628; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:33:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:33:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Rolf Nielsen Message-Id: <20110507023325.6be436ec.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:33:27 -0000 On Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > Hello all, > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > combination of two or more of them? I would suggest using a combination of sort, uniq and diff. Those are base system tools. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:50:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624751065673 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:50:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw13.surf-town.net (mail12.surf-town.net [212.97.132.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EFF8FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id CBC343FF09; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:50:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBB640887; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:50:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw3.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw13.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw13.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6Sd-QemP2g2w; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:50:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 17F383FF09; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:49:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC49736.1090909@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:49:58 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110507023325.6be436ec.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110507023325.6be436ec.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:50:10 -0000 2011-05-07 02:33, Polytropon skrev: > On Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in >> common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do >> exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need >> to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both >> files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a >> combination of two or more of them? > > I would suggest using a combination of sort, uniq and diff. > Those are base system tools. > > Ah. I didn't know about uniq. That sure helped. :) Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 00:54:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276F7106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A158FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 00:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p470sgYR092690; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:54:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 19:54:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201105070054.p470sgYR092690@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, listreader@lazlarlyricon.com In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 00:54:25 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 6 19:27:54 2011 > Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200 > From: Rolf Nielsen > To: FreeBSD > Subject: Comparing two lists > > Hello all, > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > combination of two or more of them? If the files have only 'minor' differences -- i.e. no long runs of lines that are in only one fie -- *and* the common lines are in the same order in each file, you can use diff(1), without any other shennigans. If the above is -not- true, and If you need _only_ the common lines, AND order is not important, then sort(1) both files, and use diff(1) on the two sorted versions. Beyond that it depends on what you mean by 'extensive' ones. megabytes? Gigabytes? or what?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 01:13:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF20106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 01:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw4.surf-town.net (mail7.surf-town.net [212.97.132.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABC38FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 01:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw4.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 9A811220E6C; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:13:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw4.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7BE220E6C; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:13:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw4.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw4.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw4.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eTgoHvsj53+9; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:13:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw4.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D6A861D14F2; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:13:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC49CC3.8000103@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:13:39 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201105070054.p470sgYR092690@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201105070054.p470sgYR092690@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 01:13:49 -0000 2011-05-07 02:54, Robert Bonomi skrev: >> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 6 19:27:54 2011 >> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200 >> From: Rolf Nielsen >> To: FreeBSD >> Subject: Comparing two lists >> >> Hello all, >> >> I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in >> common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do >> exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need >> to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both >> files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a >> combination of two or more of them? > > > If the files have only 'minor' differences -- i.e. no long runs of lines > that are in only one fie -- *and* the common lines are in the same order > in each file, you can use diff(1), without any other shennigans. > > If the above is -not- true, and If you need _only_ the common lines, AND > order is not important, then sort(1) both files, and use diff(1) on the > two sorted versions. > > > Beyond that it depends on what you mean by 'extensive' ones. megabytes? > Gigabytes? or what?? > > > Some 10,000 to 20,000 lines each. I do need only the common lines. Order is not essential, but would make life easier. I've tried a little with uniq, as suggested by Polyptron, but I guess 3am is not quite the right time to do these things. Anyway, thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:23:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7282106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw12.surf-town.net (mail8.surf-town.net [212.97.132.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3EE8FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw12.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 88E2D138969; Sat, 7 May 2011 04:23:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw12.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A6F138967 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 04:23:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw12.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw12.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw12.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 8+MHfTX50yHU for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 04:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw12.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 05CB713895D for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 04:23:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC4AD2C.30307@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 04:23:40 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Comparing two lists [SOLVED (at least it looks like that)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:23:49 -0000 2011-05-07 02:09, Rolf Nielsen skrev: > Hello all, > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > combination of two or more of them? > > TIA, > > Rolf sort file1 file2 | uniq -d From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:26:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E2C1065674 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77AE48FC23 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4266606bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:26:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3dL1GIMxCDXduoxhKYQeYAb2WoEB1GdysON67ZBDoLE=; b=PTy30Oq5jSYZZs6yS6SBSnOXuK4Xdex3TZeXhx8cHDtic6d0vMAFmEjeydEgaHaF7d 1CeuYEGQHEr754st886pfh4Y9YX3zKsJq0+gEoyKz4Axmhzy8exgRSmXzRg02HQeGzjK zzHU/gi6cQDYddbv4XTNaiXxdUkFdySwA9l2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t0utmxvcz/nxQHOWAxlsM/wSbT3g6gvVLJMM4BUfnrsySb5u58C6Q1q6eKzsjvTbGM r0E+X/jSZhY8+AWSKGjffcfCdX0zswT8KSrnLalZLyUREuFYHLt1qz58HKzg+qY3VaPf wWPBfAiZ9eruChS7Ufst0cdrop8QNAZ8J0I0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.16.70 with SMTP id n6mr3720335bka.87.1304735175290; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.169.65 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:26:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110506190941.64bc8ee5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 02:26:15 +0000 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Does running ``# portupgrade -arRp '' prompt for options or updates everything without prompts? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:26:17 -0000 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Warren Block wrote: >> On Fri, 6 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Antonio Olivares >>> >>> Sorry for TOP POSTING :(, but do I run >>> # portmaster -a -f -D >>> >>> and do an in place update of all ports? >>> is this the recommended way or nuking and rebuilding? >> >> After the attempt to install every port, I'd remove all, update the port= s >> tree, and install only the needed ports. =A0Right now you may have many >> installed that are not just unneeded but unwanted. >> > > I am following the advice given in man portmaster: > > > =A0 =A0 Using portmaster to do a complete reinstallation of all your port= s: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 1. portmaster --list-origins > ~/installed-port-list > > =A0 =A0 Print only the ports that have available updates. =A0This can be = used as an > =A0 =A0 alias in your shell. =A0Be sure to fix the line wrapping appropri= ately. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 portmaster -L | > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 egrep -B1 '(ew|ort) version|Aborting|installed|depend= encies| > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 IGNORE|marked|Reason:|MOVED|deleted|exist|update' | g= rep -v '^--' > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2. Update your ports tree > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 3. portmaster -ty --clean-distfiles > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4. portmaster --check-port-dbdir > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5. portmaster -Faf > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 6. pkg_delete -a > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7. rm -rf /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 8. Back up any files in /usr/local you wish to save, > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0such as configuration files in /usr/local/etc > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 9. Manually check /usr/local and /var/db/pkg > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0to make sure that they are really empty > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10. Re-install portmaster > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 11. portmaster `cat ~/installed-port-list` > > > Mostly everything is step 11 :) =A0Will come back hopefully with a fully > updated machine. > > Regards, > > Antonio > startx command not found :(, no bash ran # pkg_add -r bash # pkg_add -r xfce4 did not succeed, now ran to ports # cd /usr/ports/x11-wm/xfce4 # make install clean and am stuck here. Hopefully this gets me back on my feet. Otherwise, it has been a big exercise :) and definitely I will learn from it. Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:29:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42EA3106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB948FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so4412538iyj.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:29:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iTfq0PEC9Ci7ftGcELCmx2zPz/0pKqn97TPTLct7j0Y=; b=CkoKN7lzfOeElMf1u3FqDGD0bQLETsyiSSO5C9PJJXIXn1vIGpk2QK0W5spfkp6ONo t9VoM9sY3KlkZPMkAyqHXIGwMEgOpKB7CbtVsijKXl0Fz1gsfDjg4VQI7csNNlsq7NU7 Bstzy6skxT39fovwP5z1nfPcnTnX9bJt6Ynz8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=W4S/nMDe/cHTs4wMxox3hYISvzBKUw/gXEkY4WEPvXs9Pnqykd06USEySsI5wOiRqo Myf1o2BWXwKF2ScEVvWmof8cPbXWFRtqqL7xPLqcK77BgxijucTIud+5QYc4iAdGJ31X wXh/EECpQTaBBQXf3ju9GHDp1ccsOFgcUtq4Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.187.165 with SMTP id cw37mr2710888ibb.88.1304733991356; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.145.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:06:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: i messed up, need to do fsck and also uncomment the /usr line if /etc/fstab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:29:54 -0000 Woe is me. First, I simply messed up, happens to us all from time to time. I lost power on an laptop running 8.2. Restarted it but for some reason the fsck didn't run and I lost some /usr files. I tried to do an fsck manually but because it's mounted I got nowhere. So I put a comment ("#") in front of the /usr line for the /etc/fstab file. Now, I can't boot. I need what's on my disk -- of course! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:33:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28AE1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984ED8FC15 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C51264F21B; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:34:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P0U9VlfcpXof; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:34:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.198] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 871DD264F21A; Fri, 6 May 2011 21:34:43 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 21:32:57 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Henry Olyer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: i messed up, need to do fsck and also uncomment the /usr line if /etc/fstab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:33:11 -0000 Boot to a boot disk.. anything... CD, DVD, USB Load up vi - you can probably do this from a live linux distro. Unedit the line. Save. Quit. Reboot. You're golden. On May 6, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Henry Olyer wrote: > Woe is me. >=20 > First, I simply messed up, happens to us all from time to time. I = lost > power on an laptop running 8.2. >=20 > Restarted it but for some reason the fsck didn't run and I lost some = /usr > files. >=20 > I tried to do an fsck manually but because it's mounted I got nowhere. = So I > put a comment ("#") in front of the /usr line for the /etc/fstab file. >=20 > Now, I can't boot. >=20 > I need what's on my disk -- of course! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:36:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E5E106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from henry.olyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF458FC12 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn33 with SMTP id 33so4370762iwn.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:36:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zqJGX8kL1fwyxE/1gSv1frp+fW8mZW5xnb3vnMKjPLk=; b=otsxE2BeaVSIYrqDpknXlSkobeC/F2oUvqsfqQ0EbQfizEMqLgdBqrrsOL4Hx+Wpv7 Y30GeBGj5B99ZqQIkwSTg9RX1TSQo8Y5jE39R5PPOUryKsAifHPNq4phG2iuP++aBrcr Ojkyqji31lXe29j8WAE69iElgcVDwWIh5XSek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=j9PPWtp52irsQX/YoGbzeogD2dhUjdiEBRwCKmgVLo0Lp2Ylin58p9VtfEEd/8xcHg c+OwrjAqbx4gxFpGKATY137InYcJbe6lIO8SvcXgYRNQJALEJE57XlwdMZ/9f9/CrLAm /1lyYEr+UlmVn89GtvlgVNbZBhSqnehfr8Oyo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.68.202 with SMTP id w10mr2785953ibi.63.1304735814601; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.145.9 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:36:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: Henry Olyer To: Ryan Coleman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: i messed up, need to do fsck and also uncomment the /usr line if /etc/fstab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:36:55 -0000 I had an old FBSD 7.2 CD. good enough for this I thought. I booted from that but now I need to mount the file systems on my hard drive. How do I do that? I agree,, once I get the /etc file system mounted I can edit the file. Okay, next.. How do I do an fsck on the /usr file system when coming up? On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: > Boot to a boot disk.. anything... CD, DVD, USB > > Load up vi - you can probably do this from a live linux distro. > > Unedit the line. > > Save. > > Quit. > > Reboot. > > You're golden. > > > On May 6, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Henry Olyer wrote: > > > Woe is me. > > > > First, I simply messed up, happens to us all from time to time. I lost > > power on an laptop running 8.2. > > > > Restarted it but for some reason the fsck didn't run and I lost some /usr > > files. > > > > I tried to do an fsck manually but because it's mounted I got nowhere. > So I > > put a comment ("#") in front of the /usr line for the /etc/fstab file. > > > > Now, I can't boot. > > > > I need what's on my disk -- of course! > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 02:58:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BA8106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1468FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 02:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5455430vxc.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:58:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=NbQa1kF6f/tILe/45jAlVe4wnMScUfJGT08UH+gBJW4=; b=bOEWcSnEwjSXa8kGN7lqWirCUx2ZDI+1TqKiQ+Xte/6qwP/UJXpXSXfj6FXYMywoh4 LvoQdV3NXvkTZXBe5EDpKJTRd0zTzaTodrAZIMEY7aB+n3T60E6lfj45iYcdSCSwq2RG OQN2H7ejb2U2cz0jBUrsLywaxYpyL9O9gdkUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=CEQe+2SCDlEo2S45t78SIR0Xu4LM0TATU9+hJKrkKXNtLoQ/LKUxLTipW4LnKO0WiB UgLnkCP4cw1kW00GOY3gk9P++6zmYTYOfBbGQCemyM5C4YXN76O0prMZ7qjtIowiylcV 3+luIvTyhQI5EKVlU3sLeAFRHTZh0YErdLlB4= Received: by 10.52.76.10 with SMTP id g10mr2228280vdw.252.1304735700154; Fri, 06 May 2011 19:35:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.182.232 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 19:34:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 22:34:28 -0400 Message-ID: To: Rolf Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:58:41 -0000 .... > They have some lines in common > and some lines are unique to one of the files. Use comm whenever you are dealing with set operations (in your case the intersection operation): http://www.catonmat.net/blog/set-operations-in-unix-shell -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:10:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666F1106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=010187b771=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334F68FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15110 invoked from network); 7 May 2011 02:44:04 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (64.57.183.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 7 May 2011 02:44:04 -0000 Date: 7 May 2011 02:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20110507024342.98559.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4DC49CC3.8000103@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:10:47 -0000 >Some 10,000 to 20,000 lines each. I do need only the common lines. Order >is not essential, but would make life easier. I've tried a little with >uniq, as suggested by Polyptron, but I guess 3am is not quite the right >time to do these things. Anyway, thanks. sort -u file1 > sorted-file1 sort -u file2 > sorted-file2 comm -12 sorted-file1 sorted-file2 > result R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:11:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8AD1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA99F8FC13 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4283226bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:11:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JK2BH22/Ui/Is1ZuXehRmaPZfJprChPtT+jbZD0o6tw=; b=m/Lk4cxbTVaMU8kIHDaVMhPJR2u/RYSv15xhltFgaBhgQJ/0WpMGzNXifHj21lhoPz M1EO9dzs1b4VtFef/gD2eThpomNpz4LMmLRAgXWdRMEWPObkF2vAbXaWNmPk+VQrFe9u LqpT6ChLSIjlak/cz0bewvXpfl+kUoYocjzEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=WXhwG8MahUV9wfKg3hKQLf8WrS1MZCWre5NzH1IvWbscjP7moK/3rZRBKJHoLO7+c+ 2PrsORmyE7FzUdS93zl49iPZhl+ZYhruxTRqJ+0TRmFboC9BE5wFs9XyRPHt5NrP7p0e ydBmqwKW3WfZAAFHhDGTBjCDU2DAtjmRGgdGA= Received: by 10.204.84.27 with SMTP id h27mr610208bkl.158.1304737892394; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org ([213.132.76.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm2347122bkm.6.2011.05.06.20.11.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 20:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org (yuri@procyon.xvoid.org [IPv6:::1]) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p473BSvF014027; Sat, 7 May 2011 07:11:28 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p473BSqo014026; Sat, 7 May 2011 07:11:28 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: procyon.xvoid.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:11:28 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov To: Rolf Nielsen Message-ID: <20110507031128.GC1222@procyon.xvoid.org> References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> <4DC4AD2C.30307@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC4AD2C.30307@lazlarlyricon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Comparing two lists [SOLVED (at least it looks like that)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:11:34 -0000 On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 04:23:40AM +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > 2011-05-07 02:09, Rolf Nielsen skrev: > > Hello all, > > > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do > > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need > > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > > combination of two or more of them? > > > > TIA, > > > > Rolf > > sort file1 file2 | uniq -d I very seriously doubt that this line does what you want... $ printf "a\na\na\nb\n" > file1; printf "c\nc\nb\n" > file2; sort file1 file2 | uniq -d a b c Try this instead (probably bloated): sort < file1 | uniq | tr -s '\n' '\0' | xargs -0 -I % grep -Fx % file2 | sort | uniq There is comm(1), of course, but it expects files to be already sorted. HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:16:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AD5106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bf1783@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027A18FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk27 with SMTP id 27so2206460pzk.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DOHwd3TT54h6bHh0wL7ZW0cpeDy0XHNgYmuoC+k0vtM=; b=ryWvfKE1r/7Q9/BxsnYCKpazQkgHShmFfgsxhAkXu/nNPF91njsUs0Wr6eE/jyOXG2 3RztsVOsw2kVMci6WAbhRXc8hc/Rwkdzs/QuzkIEkZ6CLJlqc7IukHOzX5waPaDnWHrx 5kSIo+UVQVB7UFfSWdBP+0FdfI6qlnez+JoiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; b=eQkzkrt/cWNStZFsmkzgPxAhay5NEdoevtV73eHmGs5RyLU6JCBNnUHBc98u8LGN8T Z78LUT0SL3Kx7KHqqKgKwbRfF2et1r94Ts+zchhzxZleZO3JeQP3B+lqrWMiPu6/REKH xflX99W2BJ3p1NdfNpGr+s8CC6stOPwqV2dRk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.49.73 with SMTP id s9mr3318264pbn.117.1304738161478; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.55.136 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2011 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 23:16:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "b. f." To: Rolf Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Comparing two lists [SOLVED (at least it looks like that)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bf1783@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:16:02 -0000 > 2011-05-07 02:09, Rolf Nielsen skrev: > > Hello all, > > > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do > > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need > > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > > combination of two or more of them? ... > sort file1 file2 | uniq -d If the lines aren't repeated in only one file... For future reference, comm(1) exists to handle problems like this, although (of course) TIMTOWTDI. b. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 03:30:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912D4106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:30:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9F58FC22 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 03:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4290218bwz.13 for ; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:30:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qULLPo/gUKGLncC62fu6huP8WLI0m6fHTbstffKaqBo=; b=TGlD8d6T9K0fZ9jLqLdZARcyD6V6HhWh1PpuukDa6NWrhzWaYzUOEAkaZXdEjjQqqx P+SzFJJWgcibz+AIri6ogseJ9/9V8jSvyvgKruDev0NIRs9pAwjRKzA1zb7VqZTe3Ium 9TyCe/jFD7/ZuaYUfR6n8d1u0xT0uEqhSjD5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=lCrCSJIq30nbsQvvEnKY9eCrhqe0UPnlzNw3T9KrdKe6nUOIWUrRPlGYdd8kh3rLzV QN+88K0ByIyeKL4C7DmNJpAiwymeCNZDLXgTTfo8H+ihA2LNFVyx87IHsiPukwxIRN9q UnpRmk3K4rOkha73C2jT11EMGoPckFp7rAcjI= Received: by 10.204.154.194 with SMTP id p2mr3781040bkw.58.1304739034844; Fri, 06 May 2011 20:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org ([213.132.76.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm2352403bkm.6.2011.05.06.20.30.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 May 2011 20:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from procyon.xvoid.org (yuri@procyon.xvoid.org [IPv6:::1]) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p473UVDp014446; Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by procyon.xvoid.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p473UVZX014445; Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: procyon.xvoid.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:31 +0400 From: Yuri Pankov To: Henry Olyer Message-ID: <20110507033031.GD1222@procyon.xvoid.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: i messed up, need to do fsck and also uncomment the /usr line if /etc/fstab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:30:36 -0000 On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:06:31PM -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > Woe is me. > > First, I simply messed up, happens to us all from time to time. I lost > power on an laptop running 8.2. > > Restarted it but for some reason the fsck didn't run and I lost some /usr > files. > > I tried to do an fsck manually but because it's mounted I got nowhere. So I > put a comment ("#") in front of the /usr line for the /etc/fstab file. > > Now, I can't boot. > > I need what's on my disk -- of course! Boot to single user mode (4 in the boot menu), remount / read-write - mount -u -o rw /, edit /etc/fstab (you'll probably need to mount /usr manually if what's in /rescue doesn't work for you), reboot. You can run fsck from single user mode, as well. HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 06:38:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AE9106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 06:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806E18FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 06:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p476cHGw036705 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 07:38:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p476cHGw036705 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1304750298; bh=kcnxGjwz5xKz6IVtWXtT49di/4OfNFexrFqDBXqncyE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4DC4E8D1.5010007@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2007=20May=202011=2007:38:09=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.17)=20Gecko/20110414=20Thunderbird/3.1.10|MIME-Version:=20 1.0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Comparing =20two=20lists|References:=20<4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com>| In-Reply-To:=20<4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com>|X-Enigmail-Ver sion:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/s igned=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pg p-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig3A0089035C0A25 1C5F8AFD3B"; b=Omoear9CEs+2OeIVkXaQOUkIJaJV/cJe+t9uKO6cySFjY8ZI9EdU4ohe1FMCMko6w NHF/dbv8SJR2QCwq5JisTOdXTYEhlpscinM4eemNnBAt5pL0Z+qAq0lEZmwR5GovO9 XNclNIO8gebDjHOqvd6bTa6oPtjepeBMYwSXHRiY= Message-ID: <4DC4E8D1.5010007@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 07:38:09 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3A0089035C0A251C5F8AFD3B" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 06:38:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3A0089035C0A251C5F8AFD3B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/05/2011 01:09, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do= > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I nee= d > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a > combination of two or more of them? comm(1) Which does exactly what you want -- showing lines that belong to one file or another, and lines that belong to both. The limitation is that the files need to be sorted before being compared. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig3A0089035C0A251C5F8AFD3B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3E6NkACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzICACgkkR/29OMXQqmYIVjNxfBp6GZ T1cAni/8iINiby1NDI8VMJL1y0we9bbI =Skjl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3A0089035C0A251C5F8AFD3B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:00:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0E41065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw7.surf-town.net (mail6.surf-town.net [212.97.132.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A41AF8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 86A80EBD7B; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:00:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60378EBD7B; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:00:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw7.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw7.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw7.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id n8ZW7eW8C6T2; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:00:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw7.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AFA82EBE73; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:00:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC52638.7040801@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:00:08 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri Pankov References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> <4DC4AD2C.30307@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110507031128.GC1222@procyon.xvoid.org> In-Reply-To: <20110507031128.GC1222@procyon.xvoid.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Comparing two lists [SOLVED (at least it looks like that)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 11:00:18 -0000 2011-05-07 05:11, Yuri Pankov skrev: > On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 04:23:40AM +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> 2011-05-07 02:09, Rolf Nielsen skrev: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in >>> common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do >>> exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need >>> to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both >>> files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a >>> combination of two or more of them? >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> Rolf >> >> sort file1 file2 | uniq -d > > I very seriously doubt that this line does what you want... > > $ printf "a\na\na\nb\n"> file1; printf "c\nc\nb\n"> file2; sort file1 file2 | uniq -d > a > b > c Ok. I do understand the problem. Though the files I have do not have any duplicate lines, so that possibility didn't even cross my mind. > > > Try this instead (probably bloated): > > sort< file1 | uniq | tr -s '\n' '\0' | xargs -0 -I % grep -Fx % file2 | sort | uniq > > There is comm(1), of course, but it expects files to be already sorted. The files are sorted, so comm would work. Several people have already suggested comm, though I haven't tried it, as combining sort and uniq does what I want with my specific files. > > > HTH, > Yuri > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:02:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9B1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw6.surf-town.net (mail12.surf-town.net [212.97.132.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1D78FC16 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 216D95F903; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:02:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AFE5F97E; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:02:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw6.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw6.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw6.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LDLqq96sUyGQ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:02:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw6.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 477255F903; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:02:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC526AE.3080603@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:02:06 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bf1783@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "b. f." , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Comparing two lists [SOLVED (at least it looks like that)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 11:02:21 -0000 2011-05-07 05:16, b. f. skrev: >> 2011-05-07 02:09, Rolf Nielsen skrev: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in >>> common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do >>> exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need >>> to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both >>> files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a >>> combination of two or more of them? > ... >> sort file1 file2 | uniq -d > > If the lines aren't repeated in only one file... They aren't (see my reply to Yuri Pankov). :) > > For future reference, comm(1) exists to handle problems like this, > although (of course) TIMTOWTDI. > > b. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 11:15:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3997F1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net (mail12.surf-town.net [212.97.132.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9148FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id DA6FC1FF07; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B635C1FF25; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:15:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw5.surf-town.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Received: from mailgw5.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw5.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1wtQmc-Bh9bS; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:14:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-0987e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.135.9]) by mailgw5.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E734B1FF07; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:14:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC529AD.5080906@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:14:53 +0200 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110502 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201105070528.p475SvZ8093849@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201105070528.p475SvZ8093849@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 11:15:03 -0000 2011-05-07 07:28, Robert Bonomi skrev: >> From listreader@lazlarlyricon.com Fri May 6 20:14:09 2011 >> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 03:13:39 +0200 >> From: Rolf Nielsen >> To: Robert Bonomi >> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Comparing two lists >> >> 2011-05-07 02:54, Robert Bonomi skrev: >>>> From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 6 19:27:54 2011 >>>> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 02:09:26 +0200 >>>> From: Rolf Nielsen >>>> To: FreeBSD >>>> Subject: Comparing two lists >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in >>>> common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do >>>> exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need >>>> to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both >>>> files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a >>>> combination of two or more of them? >>> >>> >>> If the files have only 'minor' differences -- i.e. no long runs of lines >>> that are in only one fie -- *and* the common lines are in the same order >>> in each file, you can use diff(1), without any other shennigans. >>> >>> If the above is -not- true, and If you need _only_ the common lines, AND >>> order is not important, then sort(1) both files, and use diff(1) on the >>> two sorted versions. >>> >>> >>> Beyond that it depends on what you mean by 'extensive' ones. megabytes? >>> Gigabytes? or what?? >>> >>> >>> >> >> Some 10,000 to 20,000 lines each. I do need only the common lines. Order >> is not essential, but would make life easier. I've tried a little with >> uniq, as suggested by Polyptron, but I guess 3am is not quite the right >> time to do these things. Anyway, thanks. > > Ok, 20k lines is only a medium-size file. There's no problem in fitting > the entire file 'in memory'. ('big' files are ones that are larger than > available memory. :) By "quite extensive" I was refering to the number of lines rather than the byte size, and 20k lines is, by my standards, quite a lot for a plain text file. :P But that's beside the point. :) > > Using uniq: > sort {{file1}} {{file2}} |uniq -d Yes, I found that solution on http://www.catonmat.net/blog/set-operations-in-unix-shell which is mainly about comm, but also lists other ways of doing things. I also found grep -xF -f file1 file2 there, and I've tested that one too. Both seem to be doing what I want. > > to maintain order, put the following in a file, call it 'common.awk' > > NR==FNR { array[$0]=1; next; } > { if (array[$0] == 1) print $0; } > > then use the command: > > awk -f common.awk {{file1}} {{file2}} > > This will output common lines, in the order they occur in _file2_. > > I took the liberty of sending a copy of this to the list although you replied privately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 12:12:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93CA106567A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 12:12:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5535C8FC1B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 12:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so4044982wwc.31 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 05:12:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ymc+OzMgIeOAv8YqFwQ9EdwJ7vtqtUVImqzPuSenDgI=; b=FbiLgUj47QhJgs0v1s3DSvPutksvtvKgy56UgmKccdl1W0YnoMJKrH+N0NQGoQ4gw4 /R47Shr0Tp+DJdu2zOPvEdDx0HoZnkD2gBc4eorSWd5KmEsM/VgacCDhBrOV/bef5x5+ dAVz3Q65llJQj+j0vZ7KEU7FiYE/nv0//wsjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NP4YeRblBNFGFrNshLHRMSSs0SLKdFtg1XioyycALI/1vZv6rAjZ1tFnOzdhp+rRky vsHPeTG8ujYk5tuUJaG4Dph3QJvr18HWPNGAi2ZjqfwnX/cE/1amU1OyhU3gr3aFhnq2 Z2b9x2vy4/kgUrsc2nvPEg2Lavp3omoECssMo= Received: by 10.227.209.205 with SMTP id gh13mr4995195wbb.47.1304770348144; Sat, 07 May 2011 05:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] ([2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h11sm2558922wbc.26.2011.05.07.05.12.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 May 2011 05:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:12:24 +0000 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 12:12:29 -0000 there is any logon screen manager for freebsd? sometimes computer is idle for sometime and i would like to add a logon screen in it.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:10:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA90D106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:10:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B61A38FC12 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13120 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2011 13:10:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 May 2011 13:10:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ioL1wtzNfz5/0jyeiF9Gtziql99777ifH9rmq4ewwL3Ajyk4opvx4sYihJCgUNDX3+ocjV/KC0OwtWDNlQXkbZDESGNxqBtRdPEVWE/Iy4JQN4L5kysNnpnasR/TlhTX; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIhGt-0006xR-2t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 07:10:12 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 May 2011 06:56:45 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 06:56:45 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110507125645.GA46576@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:10:13 -0000 --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 02:09:26AM +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >=20 > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in=20 > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do= =20 > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I need= =20 > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both=20 > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a=20 > combination of two or more of them? Disclaimer: This should probably be done with Unix command line utilities, and most likely by way of comm, as others explain here. On the other hand, the others explaining that have done an admirable job of giving you some pretty comprehensive advice on that front before I got here, so I'll give you an alternative approach that is probably *not* how you should do it. Alternative Approach: You could always use a programming language reasonably well-suited to admin scripting. The following is a one-liner in Ruby. ruby -e 'foo =3D File.open("foo.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp}; \ bar =3D File.open("bar.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp }; \ foo.each {|num| puts num if bar.include? num }' Okay, so I'm kinda stretching the definition of "one-liner" if I'm using semicolons and escaping newlines. If you really want to cram it all into one line of code, you could do something like replace the semicolons (and newline escapes) with the "and" keyword in each case. http://pastebin.com/nPR42760 --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3FQY0ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW4RwCg79+pYycRhCaURcDCa0u9epJ/ mFUAoJfqHPyJ/B8SiwuLBs3SzADxe5nE =rNzZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yrj/dFKFPuw6o+aM-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:17:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7A8106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8048FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxc34 with SMTP id 34so5820454vxc.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 06:17:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=2zW19+KfcZnenn52I8RYVYUaM+LFupV4K6zNF6IVI1o=; b=OeE1HpwhJ7uN2aZedNPmChHJT+OCjNdisecCX5ZIbwOe8GLMGdt/wNKQnl5UMixixS Fby9bsIgYliuy/OJzJXWZ6PwlaipAG7Tfr5fy5TbP4ThMWnepSrTKYZwMz2PyQZTGoLr VBdzuNjgYZl3HduypFP2GOKVlYXzGR3i+wBl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=hscbdF8+rgzwXAU53Bat9GnNAAxRxm0vfuZwoE5CSSqrf0l6rJqpq/j13zOUwmqqCz 9WsIqSO4cykve32pisd9ZPRsrwA3WfSoaXBXJeHUzYaFVrcZWnP0S0kFgJF7DMPFpo2x 6jqguVngICE+x8b35ww43BkMK0OQArhztJGPo= Received: by 10.52.76.10 with SMTP id g10mr2662283vdw.252.1304774262111; Sat, 07 May 2011 06:17:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.182.232 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 06:17:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:17:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: pwnedomina Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:17:43 -0000 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, pwnedomina wrote: > there is any logon screen manager for freebsd? > sometimes computer is idle for sometime and i would like to add a logon > screen in it.. I'm guessing you mean a screen locker for X, not a logon screen. Take a look at x11/xlockmore or x11/xscreensaver. If you do want a logon screen take a look at x11/gdm (gnome) and x11/xdm both of which act as a display manager and a logon screen. -- Eitan Adler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:32:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6AD106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:32:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E538FC13 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47DWpWT015561; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:32:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47DWoiw001480; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:32:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p47DWnr5001477; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:32:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 15:32:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Sat, 07 May 2011 15:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about ulpt speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:32:54 -0000 >> >> Larger postscript files are transmitted longer. >> >> I am not sure but seems it is not printer problem. Any ideas what to >> check/change in ulpt? > > It's worth trying unlpt. But if the sending time is proportional to the file already tried. The only difference is that printer doesn't know when each jobs end - so pressing "cancel" on printer by user mean nothing more will ever print after that ;) - as cancel works by ignoring data until end of job. speed is same. > size, it's probably not that. Yes it's not that. i tried making dumb 200MB postscript file and pressed cancel just after starting sending data. so printer just had to receive and ignore data - got 2.5MB/s with cat file >/dev/ulpt0 tried dd if=file of=/dev/ulpt0 bs=1m - same speed. in actual printouts it's more like 200kB/s or less. It may be printer's problem but not it's postscript processor Kyocera FS-3920DN have identical CPU and identical amount of RAM and handles printouts by LAN at 100Mbit/s speed even on complex postscript files. Do you have any idea what to check more ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:35:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8944106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F1F8FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47DZ9sT015664; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:35:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47DZ8sg001503; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:35:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p47DZ81T001500; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:35:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 15:35:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Sat, 07 May 2011 15:35:09 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about ulpt speed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:35:11 -0000 another idea. ulpt shows like that ugen1.3: at usbus1 ulpt0: on usbus1 ulpt0: using bi-directional mode for parallel lpt port on some printers disabling bi-di mode solves most problems. can this be disabled on ulpt or it is irrevelant? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 13:56:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD671065674 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B78D8FC17 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 13:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20845 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2011 13:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 May 2011 13:29:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=XqGFWJflVdXp8IXOpC4lMKzWismXfbx/wISFOllxvfgR12FaWZH7g3w0U1GBtKRYOzU/bRw/3SY9RhdicyhEnvO7d5gqILuQXLUwYKqjtug0qiM+WD5OygZ++JY2nS47; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIhZU-000493-T0 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 07:29:25 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 May 2011 07:15:59 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:15:59 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9amGYk9869ThD9tj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 13:56:06 -0000 --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:17:12AM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, pwnedomina wrote: > > there is any logon screen manager for freebsd? > > sometimes computer is idle for sometime and i would like to add a logon > > screen in it.. >=20 > I'm guessing you mean a screen locker for X, not a logon screen. Take > a look at x11/xlockmore or x11/xscreensaver. > If you do want a logon screen take a look at x11/gdm (gnome) and > x11/xdm both of which act as a display manager and a logon screen. A much simpler screen locker is slock: > pkgsearch -d slock /usr/ports/x11/slock DESC::=20 Simple screen locker utility for X WWW: http://tools.suckless.org/slock --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3FRg8ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKUbLACeIxyff4UpWGXRUGxXCSTfymzY ppYAniQvnVRdMUwyTOGK94KLZMMOfjD1 =byo3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 14:30:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0488E1065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B040B8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 14:30:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 149289.88793.bm@omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 74649 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2011 14:30:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304778629; bh=RaZ2z7YdK9Jbkmz8eJFeZ9Zc6PtB2PlFd6hiQdzvA9s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h2VQS2b8297H9AEk7vSqZiWdKWn45NwxoZRGRyz02AQn/D1J/3jkiIIzQNetk4/R1XgQmmnpd7FebUaPQAnQnnYzXrKXNIBDMsnPBR5vEgJISNJsGbL9VVfs8xYYDouuBJngJqjXtCuZ1nZZEEZlpf+y3IoCM0aNbf/8cBj6PDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eFmX6hm9VQ8azVvZ2crsdj48JvC8vbV5ZZ6/sljkh0dJ4mpzMbvZWK3qG59uiWNWPIJVXueV/aokVppczl7Da60ITBKtlmu/xNYSmPc40XTW4nA37330SsG/0TnEtYjzVsa6+n8oTdmWGEJF5DhwfH5+nD57WyiZgKBKuWqz0j0=; Message-ID: <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FHYS5XoVM1n0iSiqqW9cuSWsEBZgXCr.46jak92DmRVz6Yz Zsh6633wuU48TH5FEQX8qqy0oToUZJUq4ZQzdw99bWm_MZSwNpPyCOrg3Q6d DiGeg8kpjsIYBK_6tqMwpcLjy1.C6rCEl21v7bfUShPoHCqNbO.OhmR9hHk8 eXMUVTO1L7hM01zep3YUwS2ItgMLEJOTxg66fjIeEIX9Un7coByClRK5GBF9 JBLlPV8rPeK5W_p48pmZ7v7dYtSljhtPZycCPu6Up1FEqu_Fp0WOdd5bwWG4 LQDW80CpRv4LzETomGyhCGlJ5ckro1BEzFYlbY1XZV3x6FdjIkuP_Ory2WuD oCQXWm2ECt_suQJmWdlpQo4.2Ki6gc.SmsNUpSmnQ1Znde8TeVPQR4EWV Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 May 2011 07:30:29 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: David Brodbeck , FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 14:30:31 -0000 I knew this thread would bring up some ironies. For the record it's all in = their =0Aminds. E-Mails have been upheld in the US Court system as legal do= cuments. And =0Athose people afraid or distrusting of e-mail have only to g= ive me their fax =0Anumber and watch how quickly I can send them bogus fax = documents. Like I said, =0Ait's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or m= ore secure than any other form =0Aof comminication. Its simply a waste of i= nk, toner and paper as far as I'm =0Aconcerned.=0A=0AI just finished an ass= ignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of =0Asets of huge D = and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I =0Ashowed them = the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, =0Athey s= coffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were = =0Awasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In ju= st on =0Amonth they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to acc= ount for this =0Aand then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in= the trash. Their =0Asecretaries were still sending out proposals via fax e= ven when the client =0Arequested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Their reason for = this was, "This is the only =0Away we know how and we've done it like this = for so long, we don't want to =0Achange."=0A=0AIMHO...Faxing is so last cen= tury.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Brodbeck= =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: Fri= , May 6, 2011 1:30:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: Sending a Fax=0A=0AOn Fri, May 6, 2= 011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:=0A> I read the o= ther replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For =0A>the=0A= > last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing P= DF =0Aand=0A> other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient bu= t its green too.=0A=0ABelieve it or not, there are industries where faxing = is still the=0Anorm.=A0 Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by f= ax.=A0 It also=0Aseems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate wit= h doctors'=0Aoffices.=A0 These are conservative industries where email (and= =0Aespecially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion.=0AA= lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system,=0Atho= ugh; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper.=0A____________________= ___________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A= http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscrib= e, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:53:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F511065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rloefgren@forethought.net) Received: from mzpi5.forethought.net (mzpi5.forethought.net [216.241.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA808FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 216-241-45-95.static.forethought.net ([216.241.45.95] helo=auden.jmla.com) by mz3.forethought.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIkO3-0004ba-EA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:47 -0600 Message-ID: <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:46 -0600 From: Reed Loefgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110218 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:53:46 -0000 On 05/07/11 08:30, Bill Tillman wrote: > I knew this thread would bring up some ironies. For the record it's all in their > minds. E-Mails have been upheld in the US Court system as legal documents. And > those people afraid or distrusting of e-mail have only to give me their fax > number and watch how quickly I can send them bogus fax documents. Like I said, > it's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or more secure than any other form > of comminication. Its simply a waste of ink, toner and paper as far as I'm > concerned. > > I just finished an assignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of > sets of huge D and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I > showed them the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, > they scoffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were > wasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In just on > month they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to account for this > and then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in the trash. Their > secretaries were still sending out proposals via fax even when the client > requested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Their reason for this was, "This is the only > way we know how and we've done it like this for so long, we don't want to > change." > > IMHO...Faxing is so last century. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Brodbeck > To: FreeBSD Questions > Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 1:30:58 PM > Subject: Re: Sending a Fax > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: >> I read the other replies to your post so let me put in my 2 cents worth. For >> the >> last few years, I have basically abandoned faxing in favor of e-mailing PDF > and >> other document files. Paperless is not only more efficient but its green too. > Believe it or not, there are industries where faxing is still the > norm. Many industrial suppliers want purchase orders by fax. It also > seems to be the common way that pharmacies communicate with doctors' > offices. These are conservative industries where email (and > especially, email attachments) are still viewed with some suspicion. > A lot of times these days the actual endpoint is a digital fax system, > though; sometimes the fax never actually reaches paper. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Bill, I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days is the emailing of unencrypted business papers. I take the position that *nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I shake my head at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never think of discussing with a stranger. And yet they do just that via the spool. Regards, r From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 17:56:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D601A1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:56:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6136E8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4674066bwz.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 10:56:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0oEAneLhSr/zYNYf0gmE1AtfRD2IFZ7gZBf1QekcVlg=; b=J2FV6G9OhQccY5P6mUSraj/4yXbbYwJYIh9hFZCO8alrTAEpeDhE0BNacZY7SK7PE5 ocPWsdSF76hEcCGOEp5g/Auf6L1+82eQP4hnvk5Q0KmZETVVLvFzdjVXX/DSJlGCwamI I2gH0t5L5Qn/Poah+IsHezLnqR9MH0iEmRi6s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ishRP3qYWsS/IOF1vaS+98gVA2gslGeJoM8ZrTamRIGpdA86+GBeb4xyQdzy0Y6kQS vthDqzZxz2Ei+c0RyHfWCza17Fv/uqpKQLeSjh8+CJWwsVwuzgadPynzZI7+uU5Beo4R 2BjdwGB7NsT58laFlYiMcN87fIyKUrdpkd/Jo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.41.206 with SMTP id p14mr2951682bke.53.1304790980990; Sat, 07 May 2011 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.3.217 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 10:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 12:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: fix an audio conversion script to work through multiple directories and convert mp3s to ogg vorbis X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:56:23 -0000 Dear kind FreeBSD users, I have a dilemma, I have a collection of songs in mp3 form from old cd's that I ripped. Sadly, the mp3s can play but with a screeching sound :(. I have confirmed that by converting the mp3's to ogg vorbis format, the screeching sound is lost. So I have decided to convert my songs to ogg vorbis. I have found a script that converts from any sound format to mp3, but I modified it to convert to ogg at 128 k which is default. The script that I modified is found at : http://en.linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_Convert_audio_files However, when I run it, I have to switch to the folder where the mp3's are at and run $ ./convert2ogg mp3 and when it is done $ ./renamer to rename the songs from *.mp3.ogg to *.ogg and then delete the mp3's manually. ========================================================== [olivares@acer-aspire-1 Download]$ cat renamer #!/bin/sh for i in *.mp3.ogg do mv "$i" "$(echo $i|sed 's/mp3.ogg/ogg/g')" done [olivares@acer-aspire-1 Download]$ cat convert2ogg #!/bin/sh # # Usage: convertoogg fileextention # if [ $1 = "" ];then echo 'Please give a audio file extention as argument.' exit 1 fi for i in *.$1 do if [ -f "$i" ]; then rm -f "$i.wav" mkfifo "$i.wav" mplayer \ -quiet \ -vo null \ -vc dummy \ -af volume=0,resample=44100:0:1 \ -ao pcm:waveheader:file="$i.wav" "$i" & dest=`echo "$i"|sed -e "s/$1$/ogg/"` oggenc -b 128 "$i.wav" "$dest" rm -f "$i.wav" fi done ========================================================== My question is the following: How can I run the script to recursively find all mp3's and convert them to ogg vorbis(with ogg extension already in place/or rename them in one step[instead of running two scripts] and deleting the mp3's) all in one time? Say I have a folder with songs: Los Invasores de Nuevo Leon -> Disc 1 -> Disc 2 -> Disc 3 . . -> Disc 20 And instead of going in manually and running the above scripts through each folder, run a modified script that will recursively find all mp3's in the directories and convert them to ogg, rename them and delete the mp3's? I know it can be done, but I am not expert and am afraid to screw up [see thread of updating freebsd with portmaster -af in case you have doubts]. I tend to shoot myself in the foot :( Something like $ find -iname "*.mp3" -exec ./convert2ogg ~/Los\ Invsores\ de\ Nuevo\ Leon/mp3 or similar that can do the job with a modified convert2ogg file that can rename the output correctly in the first step. Any suggestions/advice/comments/observations are welcome. I will attempt this on Monday on my machine at work since it is the one that has the screeching sound :( I will also try to get back a machine[the one with # portupgrade -af , # portmaster ?,etc] Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:02:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372FF1065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E688FC18 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4676980bwz.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=V9H8j44y20hWQ+ihK7wgqqYAfRLsp1vkm6ICIcwvsjo=; b=nT2xg+CCRxREmglzYedz/wqV1sBAK/aWth8y1VZVAsXEyFF6HIRSiVYdVGpVWxXMAN U/dtDgYyybENeWFMR5xyAM4D6IG9MNCnpNZUMbQgi5qS7i7FqttgN6Dngb8SpfZ+AeED vVYqKParIGsHQXwEZNKmZuOd3fyyzwEf0AGo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SLD9X8AhEmPkxwHFEvF91Cu2gpZJDpLND0o8zBq1/fCEESdLB4qoSGHf65EsBnms9g Dn7hOGZJ22Dh8tOkNrMqbRspkB6bl207l3fr8BJVX57EtlZKe9FlmO9mb2VRYpd1IhID 8JASw8OMRuSauruOUaRfjLugUEdyQTBo07pzQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.145.18 with SMTP id b18mr2214102bkv.26.1304791363332; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.3.217 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 13:02:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Antonio Olivares To: Reed Loefgren Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 18:02:45 -0000 > I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days is > the emailing of unencrypted business papers. I take the position that > *nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those > servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I shake my head > at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never think of > discussing with a stranger. And yet they do just that via the spool. > I second your opinion. Now that recording conversations & emails between people, they save everything for later coming back with lawsuits/blackmail/etc. There are many examples but one that comes to mind is the Brett Favre scandal with then Jet's reporter Jen Sterger. That was a text, and *it apparently was saved since 2008* and it became a scandal, this of course last year and now the *LOCKOUT * :( These people make too much money already and they want more :( Sorry for drifting out of topic. An example where paperless documents are preffered, take a look at IRS they will require users to file electronically starting next year. They want to save paper and this is a government agency. Schools are implementing this too, they want to send messages to their teachers/workers/staff because ultiimately saving the environment is more important (too many dead trees) Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 18:09:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1666106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3808FC15 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 18:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIlw7-0005Lr-KP for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 11:08:40 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 May 2011 11:09:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 11:09:01 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110507180901.GB76440@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD References: <4DC48DB6.8030907@lazlarlyricon.com> <20110507125645.GA46576@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110507125645.GA46576@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Comparing two lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 18:09:07 -0000 --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 07 May 2011: > On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 02:09:26AM +0200, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > >=20 > > I have two text files, quite extensive ones. They have some lines in=20 > > common and some lines are unique to one of the files. The lines that do= =20 > > exist in both files are not necessarily in the same location. Now I nee= d=20 > > to compare the files and output a list of lines that exist in both=20 > > files. Is there a simple way to do this? diff? awk? sed? cmp? Or a=20 > > combination of two or more of them? >=20 > Disclaimer: >=20 > This should probably be done with Unix command line utilities, and most > likely by way of comm, as others explain here. On the other hand, the > others explaining that have done an admirable job of giving you some > pretty comprehensive advice on that front before I got here, so I'll give > you an alternative approach that is probably *not* how you should do it. >=20 > Alternative Approach: >=20 > You could always use a programming language reasonably well-suited to > admin scripting. The following is a one-liner in Ruby. >=20 > ruby -e 'foo =3D File.open("foo.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp}; \ > bar =3D File.open("bar.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp }; \ > foo.each {|num| puts num if bar.include? num }' >=20 > Okay, so I'm kinda stretching the definition of "one-liner" if I'm > using semicolons and escaping newlines. If you really want to cram it > all into one line of code, you could do something like replace the > semicolons (and newline escapes) with the "and" keyword in each case. >=20 > http://pastebin.com/nPR42760 >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] You could even just output the intersection of the two lists: ruby -e 'puts File.open("foo.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp} & \ File.open("bar.txt").readlines.map {|l| l.chomp }' And to comply with DRY: ruby -e 'def fl(f) File.open(f).readlines.map {|l| l.chomp}; end; \ puts fl("foo.txt") & fl("bar.txt")' --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNxYq9AAoJEIpckszW26+R5cQH/1bDfmmkNJ4CtbNkdxi+S1ls 8qQaYbw9kihlwSgAjAC91EhnGx5j5Ts8mfQix/cec0BdMztJjUnj+kEz7iOppJR9 bDrc4F8ICyrB+2hzQqPt+ho6MfaWkzezXLP/zTUHfkqAYJ7goJurZqusRfXNgOF7 jYSYQR5UvRYGOvsk7XVHdb/+c4sG/wrJGORe+njP6Y6lIXhGO02S9UFYeaNJ9/SE IPW6klpt66MVD23VW0R4CofToG2EXKS6l4WbL2xa0pGNcyC7cJC32iA9FHNZD6Gc kjQCp/ARosQYYk3cH1fTHihg5YVmnA73w1EqNeLI00Awaqde0oRsU/d+ebywg68= =JWvz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 19:18:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58071065697 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 19:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EBCE8FC1E for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 May 2011 18:52:05 -0000 Received: from d038163.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [80.171.38.163]) [80.171.38.163] by mail.gmx.net (mp070) with SMTP; 07 May 2011 20:52:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18D4XgjeM4D6eAUD10X4gvfjLXzDZI1NS52+KuKsV 2eNRNEpwJRCK9m Message-ID: <4DC594D3.10606@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:52:03 +0200 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= References: <4DC4654C.2020902@locolomo.org> In-Reply-To: <4DC4654C.2020902@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 19:18:47 -0000 Am 06.05.2011 23:17, schrieb Erik Nørgaard: > Hi: > > This is a generic question about may, should and must: > > I have the following setup: > > 192.168.28/24 > +---------------+ > |.196 |.1 > SRV GW--------- RN > |.28 |.1 > +---------------+ > 10.225.162/24 > > The server, SRV, has default gateway set to 192.168.28.1, no routing > has been configured for the 10.225.162/24 network. The gateway is a > router, no NAT or firewall. Yup, we do have this setup, don't ask why. > > Now, the remote node RN pings the server on 192.168.28.196 fine, no > problem. Then it pings 10.225.162.28 and get destination unreachable. > > OK, so I did tcpdump first on the 10.225.162.28 interface, and saw > icmp echo requests coming in, but no replies going out. Then I did > tcpdump on the other interface and got this: > > 13:39:43.233419 arp who-has 192.168.28.1 tell 10.225.162.28 > > obviously no reply, wrong network. > Can your SRV (10.225.162.28) ping anything in 192.168.28? I don't think, because your SRV is looking for its gateway, but never get an answer from it. It's subnetmask is to small to reach another subnet. Put another network card in it with an ip of 192.168.28 and all will working. Sorry for my bad english ;( > Thanks, Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:18:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F831065678 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:18:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918F88FC13 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9621D9EF; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:18:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p47KIphQ001624; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:18:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:18:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Bill Tillman Message-Id: <20110507221850.d661a5fc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:18:54 -0000 On Sat, 7 May 2011 07:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bill Tillman wrote: > Like I said, > it's all in their minds. Faxing is no safer or more secure than any other form > of comminication. Its simply a waste of ink, toner and paper as far as I'm > concerned. I fully agree - especially in business. However, there are FEW, and I may emphasize VERY FEW occassions where faxing is a welcome solution. Allow me to give one example - it's the only one I know. :-) A friend pays his ISP monthly. Due to some mistake on his side, he mixed some account numbers and got all his money back, every month, while assuming he had paid. After six months, the ISP cut his wire. He phoned them and asked for the reason, and he was told that he didn't pay for a half year. As he still had all the money on _his_ bank account, he transferred it and sent a FAX of the banking receipt to the ISP's accounting department. Less than one hour later, he was back online. Faxing is nice if you already have documents in paper form. It's STUPID to fax if you generate the documents using some means of "modern IT" (usually a PC, obviously), then PRINT it, and THEN fax it - instead of using e-mail. It sounds even more stupid if you do this internally (inside your company). But as I said, I've SEEN that. > I just finished an assignment at a dinosaur of a company which still prints of > sets of huge D and E size drawings for their estimating department. When I > showed them the things you can do with a software package like Bluebeam Revu, > they scoffed at it because it costs $189 per seat. I showed them how they were > wasting $200 to $500 each week printing out huge sets of drawings. In just on > month they could have bought enough licensed copied of Revu to account for this > and then stop printing so much paper which only ends up in the trash. I thing you've been facing the common misbelief that software is not allowed to cost anything, which leads to either NOT using software, or using pirated copies. > Their > secretaries were still sending out proposals via fax even when the client > requested a PDF be sent by e-mail. Again something I recently encountered: "We can't send you a PDF file." - as the result of being UNABLE to use their everyday software (export to PDF anyone?). On the other hand, using a 10+ years old illegal copy of a well-known... you know... :-) > Their reason for this was, "This is the only > way we know how and we've done it like this for so long, we don't want to > change." This attitude will always be funny (for "us") when the technical basis of some procedure is removed (due to evolution in technology). Then, they "surprisingly" and "right now" encounter problems they can't solve. And then, it gets REALLY expensive. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:21:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC44106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311058FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47JlFQh017682 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 12:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4DC5A305.4050807@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 12:52:37 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101211 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: How to specify ssid to ifconfig if it begins with '0x'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:21:06 -0000 ifconfig(8) says: The SSID is a string up to 32 characters in length and may be specified as either a normal string or in hexadecimal when preceded by ‘0x’. But what if ssid actually begins with ASCII 0x? 'ifconfig wlan0 list scan' shows that my ssid is 0x000. Specifying "ssid \\0x000" doesn't help. How to specify SSID beginning with 0x? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:24:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAD3106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6C8FC2B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26821DFB7; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p47KORt8001646; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:24:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Reed Loefgren Message-Id: <20110507222426.860548f6.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> References: <723BE905-95AC-4B07-AD31-3D149F06527E@lafn.org> <462351.71539.qm@web36505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <507118.67900.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4DC5737A.8000602@forethought.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sending a Fax X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:24:29 -0000 On Sat, 07 May 2011 10:29:46 -0600, Reed Loefgren wrote: > I'd like to add to this that, in my opinion, the real issue these days > is the emailing of unencrypted business papers. You do not have ANY idea of how clueless people can be, do you? :-) Again, I've seen in REALITY that it was NO PROBLEM for me to obtain "classified" and "secret" documents via a chain of unencrypted and unprotected WLAN and "Windows" shares. No e-mail magic involved. I could even use the company's printer to tell them the surprising facts. :-) > I take the position that > *nothing* is ever deleted from an email server these days; or from those > servers that are just relaying, no matter what the RFC says. I think so, too, especially if legislation "encourages" the providers of those services to store all the messages they handle for "investigation purposes". You can imagine the standard arguments for that procedures... > I shake my > head at what people send to their correspondents, that they would never > think of discussing with a stranger. This is a result of "PC on, brain off". :-) Popular intant messengers sometimes are even more problematic, i. e. when the terms of use for those services state that IF you use the service, you delegate all your rights on the messages written to the provider of the service. Bob: i made great invention today will bring many money Tim: cool tell me more ! I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:41:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A729106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098CA8FC19 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so4260189wwc.31 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lPlAPLrZi4QbeXl9fuuzokvE+HepbX+WY+tyCboFn1E=; b=GlGDGHFMCSphHPpEndAj7n4pHVlU4AJRtR7PikGN9dU4GPUfm6/md1VNm3gJx1dCxI VnbGAt7uGa42SDvHEz+BB39uhWXf4h1054VjGSlmOw7eRHt/jimji7OU0KoB3CjLlxK+ dq5NRs1XnUSdS7mzTAbrUIKYwaxRHrqloNrKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Enlr5jtr81+sV2IVfO6l4ktCQNK05WASjzCsjnGX9zgD9nKIw4+9DEcbgYfSMIlIrl xo81/fduTJYNdL0ZVKPexKgtq4eYGkueAZVpgjfFOYrk4TSpqlBgWUrEP8FurZ8queMq RRlzLRVchbVAOMgUaRwWb3rsVlFCGMKG4tRtc= Received: by 10.227.5.193 with SMTP id 1mr1080006wbw.33.1304800858792; Sat, 07 May 2011 13:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-98.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bs4sm2785033wbb.1.2011.05.07.13.40.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 May 2011 13:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:40:56 +0100 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:41:00 -0000 Em 07-05-2011 14:15, Chad Perrin escreveu: > On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:17:12AM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:12 AM, pwnedomina wrote: >>> there is any logon screen manager for freebsd? >>> sometimes computer is idle for sometime and i would like to add a logon >>> screen in it.. >> I'm guessing you mean a screen locker for X, not a logon screen. Take >> a look at x11/xlockmore or x11/xscreensaver. >> If you do want a logon screen take a look at x11/gdm (gnome) and >> x11/xdm both of which act as a display manager and a logon screen. > A much simpler screen locker is slock: > > > pkgsearch -d slock > /usr/ports/x11/slock > DESC:: > Simple screen locker utility for X > > WWW: http://tools.suckless.org/slock > how can i configure slock to work properly? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 20:42:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A9C106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p26a@yahoo.com) Received: from nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm20-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4ACC38FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 20:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.91.70] by nm20.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 20:30:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.51] by tm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 20:30:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2011 20:30:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 885874.90520.bm@omp1051.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 30577 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2011 20:30:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1304800202; bh=Vu8f1/DgOQQ+9oHNvmX/nUCEJk3GDcehyDDPeamQs88=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CAnvrHZ+H5gLgjXEkQIawh7Aw5BKJ6VcYDQpL8LsdDbaRDbqowaxlME5Od5l7aPwHcGU4CeP/RTFr5KaL/75BxQMVVgmskwVg0prG9uM/YDyUOXhD35GjP07ObU6AothQPvWZ6SHsAswrkUpbfZF18OgdhI1Q+Higf5ovKpteCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qJ0waThjJuCQzPmChsZ7zeUJWSH4p5n0StLN2WnvP5YlLst0OHkvXDxR4V+1F/wqjoX59vsYM2nE4n5RjXAuSbKUetUEPmfP5f/mBwSDzac7ncMr7wwUUTatJoogQqhwcoLMlN0a2cy2bE8ilwpfsUUjuv+wr4Y5UqIvrNRBQq0=; Message-ID: <233081.27021.qm@web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: G6UkuBgVM1l2ENTolNDlDjXBELv1xdUQuxEV8.4l1kseu0d 4aeuAlqr0QbFhCVfx4h6k2AmCeaZkvuZmmKjllC8oFhoRkaYZWVn5VhP8tJ6 zkRS0_MwA8I32FAmARVfXNWGnmPyLvjXtaLVckjPC1AGsdaWYCHGlmR5a7Er 5h.RJZigmycsuk0icFo6Uez0lxH2KXJgvp78bUNQIEIvrgxxBm0.dy0_Su04 dJ_Ep6XuHcJ9APE4uUAiNp.BIydXFPyXSGwd8dHTJA8QsGnkGg.rkma0Kepp dzZZwhOMM0l2tcADygzbFv21RSLt5G.QTXxnbN4OObY9Dhg7HgjHVXmaNsNy uJcDJMeHpmKP5GUp31mGbv3PMrEOPpXYpBChuBF9ng9KyYUIzLegLPIeDG.8 Xh6O3gXNSVXxASW8VMxytodMFNiNTtS29QSG264TJTDbmaD62pEo0ALLdDKL VOTnhU7mqzZQhD0ABhTpv4tT_lomUKGDwNnkJcRG641BW_1wxrx.boleg8pM jLIC0YI_OMrnn5oW5DBfvkL0sIZ690ntmkcT3PkoupfBZDxpFk1RYFZh7MuN J0Q-- Received: from [216.252.76.11] by web111723.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 May 2011 13:30:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/12.0.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.303096 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Arun To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= , Lokadamus In-Reply-To: <4DC594D3.10606@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 20:42:31 -0000 Niether it is a problem of small subnet not NIC card. The problem is of rou= ting entries. =A0 Just add default route at your=A0node 10.225.162.28, and make the default G= W for this route as =A0192.168.28.0/24 or the connected interface. Your SRV= node should pass it to its default gw 192.168.28.1 which should take care = of forwarding it to the destination RN. If your SRV node could forward the = ping reply then add a specific route there like - "pkt comes from=A010.225.= 162.0 then forward it to 192.168.28.1. Thanks. ______________________________________________________________ Before printing, think about your ENVIRONMENTAL responsibility. =A0 =A0--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Lokadamus wrote: From: Lokadamus Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack To: "Erik N=F8rgaard" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Received: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 12:22 AM Am 06.05.2011 23:17, schrieb Erik N=F8rgaard: > Hi: >=20 > This is a generic question about may, should and must: >=20 > I have the following setup: >=20 >=A0 =A0 192.168.28/24 >=A0 +---------------+ >=A0 |.196=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0|.1 > SRV=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 GW--------- RN >=A0 |.28=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0|.1 >=A0 +---------------+ >=A0 =A0 10.225.162/24 >=20 > The server, SRV, has default gateway set to 192.168.28.1, no routing has = been configured for the 10.225.162/24 network. The gateway is a router, no = NAT or firewall. Yup, we do have this setup, don't ask why. >=20 > Now, the remote node RN pings the server on 192.168.28.196 fine, no probl= em. Then it pings 10.225.162.28 and get destination unreachable. >=20 > OK, so I did tcpdump first on the 10.225.162.28 interface, and saw icmp e= cho requests coming in, but no replies going out. Then I did tcpdump on the= other interface and got this: >=20 > 13:39:43.233419 arp who-has 192.168.28.1 tell 10.225.162.28 >=20 > obviously no reply, wrong network. >=20 Can your SRV (10.225.162.28) ping anything in 192.168.28? I don't think, because your SRV is looking for its gateway, but never get a= n answer from it. It's subnetmask is to small to reach another subnet. Put another network card in it with an ip of 192.168.28 and all will workin= g. Sorry for my bad english ;( > Thanks, Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:03:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD6D106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456A8FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p47L3qBw054641; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:03:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 17:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Hill To: Antonio Olivares In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: fix an audio conversion script to work through multiple directories and convert mp3s to ogg vorbis X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:03:53 -0000 On Sat, 7 May 2011, Antonio Olivares wrote: > My question is the following: > How can I run the script to recursively find all mp3's and convert them > to ogg vorbis(with ogg extension already in place/or rename them in one > step[instead of running two scripts] and deleting the mp3's) all in one > time? I had a similar (but not identical) problem, and I wrote a script to solve it. I wanted to recursively go through a directory tree, find flac files, and make mp3s of them while transferring over the ID3 tags, while keeping a duplicate directory structure for the mp3s. And don't do the conversion if the file already exists. My script is based on traverse2.sh by Steve Parker, which is at http://steve-parker.org/sh/eg/directories/. His tutorial site is extremely helpful, and I recommend it. My script is at http://pastebin.com/77NRE6SZ - maybe you can adapt it to your needs. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:08:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BB91065672 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3C08FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318554A31; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B4DD35CAC; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 16:46:59 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Message-Id: <20110507164659.cc5e5dd9.web@3dresearch.com> In-Reply-To: <87zkmzjyfe.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> References: <20110506093157.4b34ce22.web@3dresearch.com> <87zkmzjyfe.wl%h.skuhra@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: firefox-4.0.1,1 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:08:47 -0000 On Fri, 06 May 2011 23:45:25 +0200 "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2011 09:31:57 -0400 > Janos Dohanics wrote: > > >After updating Firefox and all the ports it depends on, > >firefox-4.0.1,1 crashes when trying to use any part of the toolbar > >or the pull-down menu. > > > >I have posted the gdb output: > > > >http://wwwp.3dresearch.com/firefox.bt > > > >I have also recently rebuilt kernel and world (FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE > >i386) > > Have you rebuilt your kernel without "options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES"? > > man sem > > -Herbert Thanks for the pointer - there is no "options P1003_1B_SEMAPHORES" in my kernel configuration. However, now that you mentioned this option, I found this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-January/226492.html So, perhaps I should rebuild the kernel with this option - I'll let you know. -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:08:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0D31065673 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4678FC0C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:08:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F2854A37 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A2DBD5CED for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 17:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 17:07:44 -0400 From: Janos Dohanics To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20110507170744.65a93826.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: thunderbird-3.1.10 build error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:08:48 -0000 Trying to build thunderbird-3.1.10 on a FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 machine and getting this error: gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import' gmake[6]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/extensions/smime/build' Makefile:84: *** missing separator. Stop. gmake[6]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/extensions/smime/build' gmake[5]: *** [export] Error 2 gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/extensions/smime' gmake[4]: *** [smime_export] Error 2 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/extensions' gmake[3]: *** [extensions_export] Error 2 gmake[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/public' /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -D ../../../mozilla/dist/idl /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -D ../../../mozilla/dist/idl /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -R -m 644 nsIImportService.idl nsIImportModule.idl nsIImportMail.idl nsIImportMailboxDescriptor.idl nsIImportGeneric.idl nsIImportAddressBooks.idl nsIImportABDescriptor.idl nsIImportSettings.idl nsIImportMimeEncode.idl nsIImportFieldMap.idl nsIImportFilters.idl ../../../mozilla/dist/idl /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -R -m 644 _xpidlgen/nsIImportService.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportModule.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportMail.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportMailboxDescriptor.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportGeneric.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportAddressBooks.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportABDescriptor.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportSettings.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportMimeEncode.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportFieldMap.h _xpidlgen/nsIImportFilters.h ../../../mozilla/dist/include gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/public' gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/src' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `export'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/src' gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/text/src' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `export'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/text/src' gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/comm4x/public' /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -D ../../../../mozilla/dist/idl gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/comm4x/src' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `export'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/comm4x/src' /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -D ../../../../mozilla/dist/idl /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -R -m 644 nsIComm4xProfile.idl ../../../../mozilla/dist/idl /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mozilla/config/nsinstall -R -m 644 _xpidlgen/nsIComm4xProfile.h ../../../../mozilla/dist/include gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/comm4x/public' gmake[5]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/build' gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `export'. gmake[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import/build' gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews/import' gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2/mailnews' gmake[2]: *** [export_tier_app] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2' gmake[1]: *** [tier_app] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird/work/comm-1.9.2' gmake: *** [default] Error 2 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/thunderbird. I'd appreciate your expert advice... -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:11:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC8D106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy8-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.22.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7E4B8FC13 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10020 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2011 21:11:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 May 2011 21:11:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=oCZxfQeCK2shGnCV7WJfXJvDI0cZ7Br/gbpyY2d7z+bhJSjy5gGCV9YHb/vKOIQju7AcsNZFJ+L/12mfcI3xSiwcs8XrhCkzAzhmHeT+NZEEe1ydof4VKlChSzYTG1qO; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIon6-0004a4-Mj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 15:11:57 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 May 2011 14:58:30 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 14:58:29 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110507205829.GA47836@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:11:58 -0000 --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:40:56PM +0100, pwnedomina wrote: > > how can i configure slock to work properly? It should "just work". You can either trigger it by entering the slock command in a terminal emulator or by setting up a keyboard shortcut, desktop icon, whatever, in your window manager of choice that executes the slock command for you. To get it to unlock, just type in the password for the user account logged in to X before you locked the X Window System display and hit Enter. For more about slock and other options for locking your screen, you can check out this article: Lock Your Screen While Away From The Computer http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=3D4504 I hope that helps. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3FsnUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVa4gCfTzqrk+waOv4iBzHZnUNnIjBY szIAn0S+HkrsDeBFIKIrCNsVRjiKSMMP =UpcI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:25:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7746106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DAB8FC15 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so4761935bwz.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=taWBTN6/W6bnGbI7s7QSxbMrkTSe/7NzwiHFWHPHQ0o=; b=eqs0wM2N6UDN0jGGZxMh2m3rnx0boTQhQynYb0NRh12rMrxV2s68xJy7tt4oeCCuJB DL3FL2RfaDYKV1acXBWMe/AWM5lDpoTt4b1nVltSOcbVeGeoxC+evsqBVBiguT5J1mC8 hoRTju9fYUI1U3LMKy8aePyx6d/UkmDaajJuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=r/L3XmVd9jJahmWeDZ4cbIWBIdzhoFKu9H7z09NsSK7X51/8fY6gdbVjM3MAt0xUTw 451JVidoa0SSdrPDn2A4Mbp+k38nHLD2qlaJh6ZTQ+8bk945/il9hg5AeSTYDqMZx1kf +YCWvEfYo+zgxHbDNOVEuUcdYWrqJguQ9vZfE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.82.10 with SMTP id aa10mr2482720bkc.97.1304803555138; Sat, 07 May 2011 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.42.21 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:25:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110507033031.GD1222@procyon.xvoid.org> References: <20110507033031.GD1222@procyon.xvoid.org> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 22:25:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Yuri Pankov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Henry Olyer , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: i messed up, need to do fsck and also uncomment the /usr line if /etc/fstab X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:25:57 -0000 On 7 May 2011 04:31, "Yuri Pankov" wrote: > > On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:06:31PM -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > > Woe is me. > > > > First, I simply messed up, happens to us all from time to time. I lost > > power on an laptop running 8.2. > > > > Restarted it but for some reason the fsck didn't run and I lost some /usr > > files. > > > > I tried to do an fsck manually but because it's mounted I got nowhere. So I > > put a comment ("#") in front of the /usr line for the /etc/fstab file. > > > > Now, I can't boot. > > > > I need what's on my disk -- of course! > > Boot to single user mode (4 in the boot menu), remount / read-write - > mount -u -o rw /, edit /etc/fstab (you'll probably need to mount /usr > manually if what's in /rescue doesn't work for you), reboot. > > You can run fsck from single user mode, as well. > > > HTH, > Yuri Easiest way in single user if vi complains about termcap and you don't understand ed... As Yuri suggested: # fsck / # mount -ie / Then you can just use sed in place; # sed -i.bak -e 's,#\(.*/usr\),\1,' /etc/fstab # fsck /usr # reboot Hope that helps! 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Niether it is a problem of small subnet nor NIC card. The problem is of rou= ting entries. =A0 Just add default route at your=A0node 10.225.162.28, and make the default G= W for this route as =A0192.168.28.0/24 or the connected interface. Your SRV= node should pass it to its default gw 192.168.28.1 which should take care = of forwarding it to the destination RN. If your SRV node could NOT forward = the ping reply then add a specific route there like - "pkt comes from=A010.= 225.162.0 then forward it to 192.168.28.1. Thanks. ______________________________________________________________ Before printing, think about your ENVIRONMENTAL responsibility. --- On Sun, 5/8/11, Arun wrote: From: Arun Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack To: "Erik N=F8rgaard" , "Lokadamus" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Received: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 2:00 AM Niether it is a problem of small subnet not NIC card. The problem is of rou= ting entries. =A0 Just add default route at your=A0node 10.225.162.28, and make the default G= W for this route as =A0192.168.28.0/24 or the connected interface. Your SRV= node should pass it to its default gw 192.168.28.1 which should take care = of forwarding it to the destination RN. If your SRV node could forward the = ping reply then add a specific route there like - "pkt comes from=A010.225.= 162.0 then forward it to 192.168.28.1. Thanks. ______________________________________________________________ Before printing, think about your ENVIRONMENTAL responsibility. =A0 =A0--- On Sun, 5/8/11, Lokadamus wrote: From: Lokadamus Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack To: "Erik N=F8rgaard" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Received: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 12:22 AM Am 06.05.2011 23:17, schrieb Erik N=F8rgaard: > Hi: >=20 > This is a generic question about may, should and must: >=20 > I have the following setup: >=20 >=A0 =A0 192.168.28/24 >=A0 +---------------+ >=A0 |.196=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0|.1 > SRV=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 GW--------- RN >=A0 |.28=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0|.1 >=A0 +---------------+ >=A0 =A0 10.225.162/24 >=20 > The server, SRV, has default gateway set to 192.168.28.1, no routing has = been configured for the 10.225.162/24 network. The gateway is a router, no = NAT or firewall. Yup, we do have this setup, don't ask why. >=20 > Now, the remote node RN pings the server on 192.168.28.196 fine, no probl= em. Then it pings 10.225.162.28 and get destination unreachable. >=20 > OK, so I did tcpdump first on the 10.225.162.28 interface, and saw icmp e= cho requests coming in, but no replies going out. Then I did tcpdump on the= other interface and got this: >=20 > 13:39:43.233419 arp who-has 192.168.28.1 tell 10.225.162.28 >=20 > obviously no reply, wrong network. >=20 Can your SRV (10.225.162.28) ping anything in 192.168.28? I don't think, because your SRV is looking for its gateway, but never get a= n answer from it. It's subnetmask is to small to reach another subnet. Put another network card in it with an ip of 192.168.28 and all will workin= g. Sorry for my bad english ;( > Thanks, Erik > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:42:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F77F106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EF78FC12 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:42:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com ([192.168.249.167]) by SCSFISLTC02 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p47LgLVR029046 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 16:42:21 -0500 Received: from SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.123]) by sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Sat, 07 May 2011 16:42:21 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.121]) by SBHFISLTCGW04.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 7 May 2011 16:42:21 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([10.132.254.136]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 7 May 2011 16:42:20 -0500 From: Devin Teske Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 14:42:18 -0700 Message-Id: <4ABF6511-5BF2-4E70-A148-1CD9CE4B0937@vicor.com> To: FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2011 21:42:20.0839 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4D30B70:01CC0CFF] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Firefox URL Address Bar does not work under 8.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:42:22 -0000 Hi list, I hope that you can offer some suggestions to help make some sense of this = odd situation. The situation is that we install FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE onto st= andard Intel workstation hardware. We then add about 400 packages to the sy= stem. On top of that, we then add firefox. Everything works great in the system, even firefox ... that is until you tr= y and use the address bar in Firefox to enter a URL. Pressing ENTER has no = effect. Neither does clicking the green arrow to the right of the URL in th= e address bar. Meanwhile, requesting firefox to visit a URL via the command= -line works just fine. Clicking through pages and navigating links also wor= ks fine. The entire system is functional with except to the URL address bar= in Firefox. We then set up a second machine (also workstation-class hardware, though mu= ch newer). Same thing. System works superbly, with exception to firefox's a= ddress bar. Co-workers and I are scratching our head over why this is happening. We've tried both firefox-3.6 and firefox-3.5 from the FTP archives. We've a= lways installed every dependency. Both browser versions have the same probl= em. Both machines have the same problem. Specifically speaking, we've tried these two packages: ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.1-RELEASE/package= s/All/firefox-3.6.4,1.tbz ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/8.1-RELEASE/package= s/All/firefox-3.5.10,1.tbz --=20 Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 21:59:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1A6106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AEC8FC12 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4180464fxm.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 14:59:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Srhd4PUa9kUPuVzt4f5NG/+Hau+2sPcU/fbb/4g3skU=; b=RYq5KiXAUt3ZLo3Y6tECXEzoBv8udJiAvZ4FOLy3uRCK1uvoLI/u0S74XKsU/dF+xy 3r5ws/U5kSEkR/AM9Qx/mLQjYYFBb6E9q5+AxAX+9FpJy+Je5Gb2NRP67nDTbAjY04nF nckwoyUndfuF9casPcQXaqKPAD/wkRfevzh7g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Hdbso9d5odz9HYkJNEs9QX07azZtPqeRG9K/7G1GOrEwesjxsYLdlpZJMy/tqcz71F 82ccbQ+WA/UPSFYp/PKxLEVtN6xXhjlhdL/QxOxoH3yoiThOyDdDpQb9b4sX3LzSyu/d MxMPy//JINtx2xgYLb4yDzYODLuNOmCqpXusY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.198 with SMTP id a6mr1717961faa.130.1304805551216; Sat, 07 May 2011 14:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.20.145 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 14:59:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DC5A305.4050807@rawbw.com> References: <4DC5A305.4050807@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 16:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to specify ssid to ifconfig if it begins with '0x'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 21:59:12 -0000 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Yuri wrote: > ifconfig(8) says: > The SSID is a string up to 32 characters in length and may be specified a= s > either a normal string or in hexadecimal when preceded by =910x=92. > > But what if ssid actually begins with ASCII 0x? > 'ifconfig wlan0 list scan' shows that my ssid is 0x000. Specifying "ssid > \\0x000" doesn't help. How to specify SSID beginning with 0x? > 0xNUL79NULNULNUL --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:00:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5AA106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906558FC0A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so4180715fxm.13 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XuhMRf9/FavpHCPBKTxaJxiYjMk+kJmh/ZYVw/YUays=; b=X7jziW9omLlDIERKXl79tHkXTmr/NOvI5f07cmhM6MPzl4WQ/wZ177U4TVS2WfM0MD BsHF0NrJVc03pIaomiZekuok33YjASBrBpod13Jn2FGjH7q5M3Scb34V0mcUeyxb0T4t 7SLtSzRMPsc86mjWvL0PKjeXOLnauOy79W1Zk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jgHElF3U4LlC62feSDJFgK64HmxFgOJmbHVFhzwigcKXrxKLUGAqdLuwGrxaa+neeD yfEY9e+oIPGTM7+c9zN0YdBvJG6l7QbQkQ888j+atPLNJfTKI7K4hQ8qgbwH102jjCBH /JC/0B4mdQU9ehqtKRhY01wWz8iSyEezQVDLI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.52.7 with SMTP id f7mr69104fag.16.1304805616674; Sat, 07 May 2011 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.20.145 with HTTP; Sat, 7 May 2011 15:00:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DC5A305.4050807@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 17:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Yuri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to specify ssid to ifconfig if it begins with '0x'? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 22:00:18 -0000 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Adam Vande More wrot= e: > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Yuri wrote: > >> ifconfig(8) says: >> The SSID is a string up to 32 characters in length and may be specified = as >> either a normal string or in hexadecimal when preceded by =910x=92. >> >> But what if ssid actually begins with ASCII 0x? >> 'ifconfig wlan0 list scan' shows that my ssid is 0x000. Specifying "ssid >> \\0x000" doesn't help. How to specify SSID beginning with 0x? >> > > 0xNUL79NULNULNUL > err, 0x4879484848 --=20 Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:26:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A821065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pwnedomina@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EA98FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwc33 with SMTP id 33so4293586wwc.31 for ; Sat, 07 May 2011 15:26:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gVq/lRVz0z4C2E+uruN95JYVivWgPwMpdvHwMMih/cU=; b=bhCFtRG6Y0NJcy3K7jGCpX5pKMg5/8QkaRMGCoTkHwbQHDALzPgy7L3ck2nIEyPc7S VOr15kfpCANDkiO38G2pJPal5Ofop4jHM+xtWLabtgsQcf2o0kAmSBvfwk/+aOsfIz4w KI730qx/pNQnJjDZpXbot2E8i2VS57pXcEzWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bUIQWDsU1JFp1qnjHXaasj6Hi1jChjBrzmf4lwSfUZuHpnZPOY6z9xoeeGYdn9pMrF T0mN96IQto0nbJ9P8Eotuo3F/CnAoyVPsChI4VRtN9yXTLvXTXu2KVj+dNL2FOj0E6nT lNXm2PtNPa0g20sW+ySWgcFxedp3OlnfRxNLk= Received: by 10.216.68.6 with SMTP id k6mr568996wed.85.1304807183377; Sat, 07 May 2011 15:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (bl19-97-98.dsl.telepac.pt [2.80.97.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b20sm2819852wbb.50.2011.05.07.15.26.21 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 May 2011 15:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DC5C70D.5080708@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 23:26:21 +0100 From: pwnedomina User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; pt-PT; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> <20110507205829.GA47836@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110507205829.GA47836@guilt.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 22:26:27 -0000 Em 07-05-2011 21:58, Chad Perrin escreveu: > On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 09:40:56PM +0100, pwnedomina wrote: >> how can i configure slock to work properly? > It should "just work". You can either trigger it by entering the slock > command in a terminal emulator or by setting up a keyboard shortcut, > desktop icon, whatever, in your window manager of choice that executes > the slock command for you. To get it to unlock, just type in the > password for the user account logged in to X before you locked the X > Window System display and hit Enter. > > For more about slock and other options for locking your screen, you can > check out this article: > > Lock Your Screen While Away From The Computer > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=4504 > > I hope that helps. > i cant get into work, if i enter the slock command in the terminal it just show a black screen. ive read the README file but its not helping. my window manager is fluxbox.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:41:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA7B1065670 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from mail.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08B68FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gamma.local (unknown [189.152.251.113]) by mail.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 591381C0841; Sun, 8 May 2011 00:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4DC5CA83.6080009@locolomo.org> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:41:07 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_N=F8rgaard?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arun References: <214923.99033.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <214923.99033.qm@web111721.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lokadamus , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Link and network level in the tcp/ip stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 22:41:18 -0000 On 7/5/11 4:12 PM, Arun wrote: > Just add default route at your node 10.225.162.28, and make the default > GW for this route as 192.168.28.0/24 or the connected interface. Your > SRV node should pass it to its default gw 192.168.28.1 which should take > care of forwarding it to the destination RN. If your SRV node could NOT > forward the ping reply then add a specific route there like - "pkt comes > from 10.225.162.0 then forward it to 192.168.28.1. > Thanks. Hi: There can only be one default gateway, anything else doesn't make sense. I did try adding a specific route on SRV for RN such that pings arriving on 10.225.162.28 would be responded correctly. But, then RN can no longer reach 192.168.28.196. No surprise there really. So, why do we have this setup? Well, some services like ssh that is used for administration must arrive on 192.168.28/24 where as the commercial service has a dedicated network on 10.225.162/24 and to ensure availability and bandwidth we cannot accept to have ssh coming in on that network. I should add that this is a Red Hat Linux, I ask here since the FBSD implementation of the tcp/ip stack is considered the reference implementation. So the question is which behaviour is correct, recommended or accepted? Stripping the link layer and reply according to the network layer, or keeping the link layer? Thanks, Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 22:54:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DBB106564A for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DAC8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 22:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-63-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.63.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B25B295D2; Sun, 8 May 2011 00:54:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p47MsL7Y002165; Sun, 8 May 2011 00:54:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 00:54:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: pwnedomina Message-Id: <20110508005421.00b5b548.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC5C70D.5080708@gmail.com> References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> <20110507205829.GA47836@guilt.hydra> <4DC5C70D.5080708@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 22:54:24 -0000 On Sat, 07 May 2011 23:26:21 +0100, pwnedomina wrote: > i cant get into work, if i enter the slock command in the terminal it > just show a black screen. I think that's what it's intended to do. If you need a screensaver (including locking functionality) you may be interested in xlockmore (comand: xlock) or xscreensaver. Personally, I'm using "xlock -mode lament" here, and it is associated to the big key on the top left, "Help", on my Sun USB keyboard so it's easy to reach when leaving the workstation. :-) > ive read the README file but its not helping. > my window manager is fluxbox.. The program works independently from the window manager. However, you can access the "slock" command to an icon, menu entry or key combination, this is usually done by the configuration utility of the window manager. In my case (see above) it's the WindowMaker configuration tool that assigns xlock to a specific key. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:09:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323C0106566B for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 23:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from tensor.gdynia.pl (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A270E8FC08 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 23:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47N9Vre045987; Sun, 8 May 2011 01:09:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p47N9UPj001399; Sun, 8 May 2011 01:09:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p47N9U7x001396; Sun, 8 May 2011 01:09:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@tensor.gdynia.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 01:09:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.72]); Sun, 08 May 2011 01:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about ulpt speed - "solved" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 23:09:37 -0000 or clearly - found to be not FreeBSD problem. Printing from windoze using postscript gives exactly the same speed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 7 23:38:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C25106566C for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 23:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A2E28FC14 for ; Sat, 7 May 2011 23:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15810 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2011 23:38:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 May 2011 23:38:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Ys+IVwYf9bkJDcrUyG3BepnE6eZVaeCvhPzAD2DmrizAq6tvEefhYcccHEGfm30DXHBVrEcGL2HaPmxGIeCdgu7lv5DDuGkkqtYc1fqvPH0lPU5k1L9xSaaeBPBjLov7; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QIr4U-0004KN-CL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 May 2011 17:38:03 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 07 May 2011 17:24:35 -0600 Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 17:24:35 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110507232435.GA48258@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4DC54538.3020605@gmail.com> <20110507131559.GA46749@guilt.hydra> <4DC5AE58.7010503@gmail.com> <20110507205829.GA47836@guilt.hydra> <4DC5C70D.5080708@gmail.com> <20110508005421.00b5b548.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110508005421.00b5b548.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: FreeBSD logon screen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 23:38:04 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 12:54:21AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 07 May 2011 23:26:21 +0100, pwnedomina wro= te: > > i cant get into work, if i enter the slock command in the terminal it= =20 > > just show a black screen. >=20 > I think that's what it's intended to do. Yes, that's what it's intended to do. It blanks out the screen, and you have to enter your password to unlock the screen. It's a very simple screen locking program for X -- no more, and no less. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk3F1LMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX3mACghAuC/6pg/tJRhpqCcoG/Y/iV LZgAoPSAswwbbjqJKHJCsW0hnxfTcvXn =fiiA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm--