From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 00:02:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8449416A404 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from octix@mail.ru) Received: from mx4.mail.ru (fallback.mail.ru [194.67.57.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B4F13C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from octix@mail.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.64]) by mx4.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id B26CFA6901 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:40:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [195.22.240.218] (port=41750 helo=[192.168.0.17]) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H7t2y-000LCB-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:40:45 +0300 Message-ID: <45B0BCE0.8040902@mail.ru> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:43:12 +0200 From: octix User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Small tip to Firefox+flashplayer9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:02:33 -0000 Hi there. Well couple of times i had crashes on some sites (before opened them i didn't know they have flash).. with flash, so my advice is to install flashblocker extension... this way you won't have closed all good sites i have already opened :) cheers... and happy using FreeBSD ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 01:01:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B458616A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502B513C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE24BF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.75.243]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02C8DE80E5 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:01:44 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id E82F715213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:01:43 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:01:43 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 51 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169341303 51507 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 01:01:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:01:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: A little trouble starting (X-) Programs over ssh... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:01:46 -0000 Good evening peeps! This probably isn't a real FreeBSD-issue itself, but it doesn't really fit any other topic that has a newsgroup out there, so please bear with me here! What I have done: I've installed an X-server (XMing) on a Windows-XP box and connect via PuTTY to a FreeBSD box (Sun U60). I have configured the X-server to allow clients to connect from the IP of the FreeBSD-box. One of the commands I want to use (for example) is 'konqueror -display winbox:0 &'. Now that works fine, so it seems I got it right up to here. In case that wasn't clear so far: I am not using X-forwarding over ssh. So I don't need the ssh session to run the X-application. Since I don't always want to habe terminal windows hanging around and typing in the commands like that is a little boring, I wanted to automate that a little. I could do that by adding a command to run directly in PuTTY or by using plink. I tried both and neither got the desired results. If I use PuTTY the terminal window opens for a few seconds and then closes again. I get to see a few messages from the konqueror but the browser's window never appears on my desktop. If I use the exact command line in an open ssh session, konqueror starts and I can do what I like with it. If I close the ssh session I started the browser from nothing happens, meaning, it doesn't close. I can just go on surfing. Quite the reverse happens if I user plink to start konqueror. I get a command line window and see the messages of konqueror starting up. Unlike when using PuTTY I get a browser window and it stays too. The command line window which was the result of plink starting doesn't disappear though. It stays right where it is, maybe displaying the odd message or another from konqueror. Pressing ctrl-c closes the window (obviously there is now a clean exit somewhere) while leaving konqueror running. I have tried using the -batch and -s options and others to try to get the window to close *after* the application was actually started. With no success (so far). And this is just the part I don't get. When using PuTTY there seems to be some sort of clean exit, because otherwise the window wouldn't close. Why doesn't plink get the same clean exit? If there is a clean exit, why does it come too soon - if that is the case here? Why does the application break off its launch? What I basicly want is to start an application with a shortcut without making every one of them have two windows (one for the app itself and one for the terminal session). Is there any way of doing this? Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:15:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD1916A408 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2213C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696B8105A6 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from exuma.irbs.com (exuma.irbs.com [216.86.160.225]) by mxout-04.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AAAA32A4 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by exuma.irbs.com (Postfix, from userid 2500) id 8C5D1CD7C; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:57:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:57:03 -0500 From: John Capo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070121015703.GA67097@exuma.irbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: PV entry limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jc@irbs.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:29 -0000 I got the infamous pmap_collect: collecting pv entries message 5 times within 4 hours 12 days ago. The machine is a Cyrus IMAP server with 4Gigs of memory peaking around 2000 IMAP processes and a about 200 other processes. The machine is running 4.11 with these compile tweaks. options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=300 options KVA_PAGES=384 and one sysctl boot tweak. kern.maxfiles=60000 Open files are 30K or so with about 200MB of shared files mmapped into each IMAP process. sysctl vm | grep PV every 10 seconds shows this. PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2501404, 18961, 296551065 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2501472, 18893, 296563037 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2513275, 7090, 296601432 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 151597, 2368768, 296689650 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 211052, 2309313, 296783099 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 283356, 2237009, 296896244 Used plus free PV entries is 2520365 which is considerably less that the 3749470 PV entry limit. AFAICT, I have plenty of kernel space available to allocate more PV entries from. ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS PIPE: 160, 0, 522, 294, 22806126 SWAPMETA: 160, 233016, 14858, 29455, 3964171 unpcb: 160, 0, 2659, 4541, 15805192 ripcb: 192, 12328, 2, 40, 31222 syncache: 160, 15359, 0, 76, 8077824 tcpcb: 576, 12328, 1391, 2889, 10030866 udpcb: 192, 12328, 33, 73, 11663049 socket: 224, 12328, 4086, 6848, 37530493 DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 1684, 292, 8344073 KNOTE: 64, 0, 2, 126, 9094626 NFSNODE: 352, 0, 6, 14118, 105689 NFSMOUNT: 544, 0, 3, 11, 6 VNODE: 192, 0, 216941, 41, 216941 NAMEI: 1024, 0, 1, 255, 3156465410 VMSPACE: 192, 0, 1352, 2168, 9106225 PROC: 416, 0, 1403, 2223, 15245401 DP fakepg: 64, 0, 0, 0, 0 PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2263440, 256925, 801513627 MAP ENTRY: 48, 0, 64374, 99039, 862331760 KMAP ENTRY: 48, 73807, 8234, 256, 30468915 MAP: 108, 0, 7, 3, 7 VM OBJECT: 92, 0, 215656, 64792, 403861231 vm.zone_kmem_pages: 13773 vm.zone_kmem_kvaspace: 136269824 vm.zone_kern_pages: 21225 vm.kvm_size: 1606414336 vm.kvm_free: 494923776 Obviously I need to bump PMAP_SHPGPERPROC some more. Do I need more KVA also? If there is enough KVA now, what kept more PV entries from being allocated when needed? Used plus free PV entries has been stuck at 2520365 for days. I know 4.11 is EOL but switching to [56].something is just not an option right now. Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:15:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945E16A411 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: from smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth03.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96EB313C459 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net) Received: (qmail 22341 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2007 02:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.168.66) by smtpauth03-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.183) with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2007 02:15:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: From: Joshua Lewis Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:15:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:15:37 -0000 Hello list, After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough sleep I have a working asterisk PBX for my home. I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives in a Raid1 config. While this system should suffice I would like to streamline the system a little. I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is there a way to figure out what software I don't need. I did a pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps installed. I know I don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random packages. After having a non working phone for two weeks my wife would kill me if I messed it all up again. Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could use gastman to try and get my Asterisk config working faster. I never wound up using gastman so now I need to remove it and xorg. But there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things. Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of days? Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed anymore? Are there any other ways to streamline a system? I removed everything from rc.conf except the basics. Hostname, defualtrouter, ifconfig, keyrate, linux_enable, saver, sshd, asterisk. Here is what I have installed. asterisk-1.2.13_3 An Open Source PBX and telephony toolkit asterisk-addons-1.2.3_1 Additional modules for the Asterisk Open Source PBX atk-1.12.4 A GNOME accessibility toolkit (ATK) autoconf-2.59_2 Automatically configure source code on many Un*x platforms bison-1.75_2,1 A parser generator from FSF, (mostly) compatible with Yacc bitstream-vera-1.10_2 Bitstream Vera TrueType font collection cairo-1.2.6_1 Vector graphics library with cross-device output support curl-7.16.0_1 Non-interactive tool to get files from FTP, GOPHER, HTTP(S) expat-2.0.0_1 XML 1.0 parser written in C fontconfig-2.3.2_6,1 An XML-based font configuration API for X Windows freetype2-2.2.1_1 A free and portable TrueType font rendering engine gastman-1.0.r1_1 Graphical Manager interface for Asterisk gettext-0.14.5_2 GNU gettext package glib-2.12.9 Some useful routines of C programming (current stable versi gmake-3.81_1 GNU version of 'make' utility gtk-2.10.8_1 Gimp Toolkit for X11 GUI (current stable version) help2man-1.36.4_1 Automatically generating simple manual pages from program o hicolor-icon-theme-0.9_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project imake-6.9.0 Imake and other utilities from X.Org intltool-0.35.4 Tools to internationalize various kinds of data files jpeg-6b_4 IJG's jpeg compression utilities libXft-2.1.7_1 A client-sided font API for X applications libdrm-2.0.2 Userspace interface to kernel Direct Rendering Module servi libiconv-1.9.2_2 A character set conversion library libogg-1.1.3,3 Ogg bitstream library libpri-1.2.3 A C implementation of the Primary Rate ISDN specification libslang-1.4.9 Routines for rapid alpha-numeric terminal applications deve libtool-1.5.22_2 Generic shared library support script libxml2-2.6.27 XML parser library for GNOME linux_base-fc-4_9 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) m4-1.4.8_1 GNU m4 mpg123-0.59r_17 Command-line player for mpeg layer 1, 2 and 3 audio mysql-client-5.0.27 Multithreaded SQL database (client) newt-0.51.0_3 Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit: console I/O handling library openh323-1.18.0_2 A H323 Video Conferencing library openldap-client-2.3.33 Open source LDAP client implementation p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2 Perl extension interface to James Clark's XML parser, expat p5-gettext-1.05_1 Message handling functions pango-1.14.9 An open-source framework for the layout and rendering of i1 perl-5.8.8 Practical Extraction and Report Language pkg-config-0.21 A utility to retrieve information about installed libraries png-1.2.12_1 Library for manipulating PNG images popt-1.7_2 A getopt(3) like library with a number of enhancements, fro pwlib-1.10.2,1 A cross platform C++ library, used by OpenH323 shared-mime-info-0.19 A MIME type database from the FreeDesktop project spandsp-0.0.2.p26 Fax DSP library for Asterisk speex-1.0.5_1,1 An open-source patent-free voice codec tiff-3.8.2_1 Tools and library routines for working with TIFF images unixODBC-2.2.12_1 ODBC library suite for Unix xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1 X.Org font encoding files xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0 X.Org TrueType fonts xorg-fonts-type1-6.9.0 X.Org Type1 fonts xorg-fontserver-6.9.0_1 X font server from X.Org xorg-nestserver-6.9.0_1 Nesting X server from X.Org xorg-printserver-6.9.0_2 X Print server from X.Org xorg-server-6.9.0_5 X.Org X server and related programs xorg-vfbserver-6.9.0_2 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org xterm-220 Terminal emulator for the X Window System zaptel-1.0_1 A FreeBSD Driver for FXO, FXS, BRI and PRI Telephony Cards Sincerely, Joshua Lewis joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:23:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C3216A406 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nemox@deathwish.net) Received: from mail.math.fsu.edu (mail.math.fsu.edu [128.186.104.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964AD13C43E for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nemox@deathwish.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-68-35-224-211.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [68.35.224.211]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.math.fsu.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0L2NocV011515 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:23:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B2CEA7.2050401@deathwish.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:23:35 -0500 From: Andrew Tamm User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <539c60b90701200831x12ad0d0fnff68eeb9965a4505@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90701200831x12ad0d0fnff68eeb9965a4505@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: samba3 -> folders in share show up as 0-byte files (6.1 stable) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:23:55 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > Hi, > > Pretty much vanilla install as per the handbook. Had to change from > smbpasswd to tdbpasswd to get it working, but that's the only non-standard > operation I did. > > Title says it all. Thought it might be a permissions problem, but I can > walk the whole tree when logged on to the freebsd box locally, so my user > has acess to the whole share. When I map it remotely (same subnet, no > firewalls) from my XP box, I can see the share, but all the folders show up > as zero byte files instead of folders. > > ??? > > Thanks, > Steve > I had a similar problem. I was sharing an entire ntfs partition to copy stuff to a windows box. Viewing the share from the windows box would give those 0 byte files *UNLESS* I had recently done an ls in that directory on the local machine (or an ssh shell). I was able to solve this by changing the mount point permissions to 777, and hence every file in the ntfs partition. I'm not particularly happy with this solution and feel there's something I'm missing, but it might be a start. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:30:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E5016A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (pencil.math.missouri.edu [128.206.49.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4281013C45E for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: from pencil.math.missouri.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0L1u8cT050865 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich@pencil.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by pencil.math.missouri.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0L1u8JA050864 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rich) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <200701210156.l0L1u8JA050864@pencil.math.missouri.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL122i (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/2473/Sat Jan 20 15:12:15 2007 on pencil.math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Mail server intermittent freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:30:04 -0000 I'm pulling out what's left of my hair trying to figure out this one. It's not a pretty sight. Save the people who have to look at me! It's a 1ghz intel P3 with 512MB ram, running 4.11-p26 with sendmail, imapd-uw, qpopper, stunnel-4.14_2 and p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.1, as well as tty logins. It's an nis and nfs client (nfs=home dirs). It has an fxp network card which is in polling mode (although the problem started before it was put in polling mode) The system will freeze maybe every 5 minutes, sometimes for up to a minute. Almost completely: low level terminal io on the console still works. I can switch tty's (ALT-Fn) and carriage returns are echoed (and discarded) while showing "netstat -w 1" output. But interactive prompts are frozen. No user-level processing is apparent. Network traffic is heavy, we're getting massive amounts of spam, and spamd's load on the system has jumped considerably in the past few weeks. Average system load used to hover around .8, now it averages over 2, mostly due to spamd. Large jumps in outgoing packet activity appear with "netstat -w 1" in the first update after recovery from the freeze. Usually an elevated rate just prior to it. My main concern is the discontinuity of the behavior. The response is not linear with respect to load, it just drops off a cliff, prior to which it seems normal. I'm thinking there's a logjam somewhere which could be alleviated. /etc/sysctl.conf contains net.inet.icmp.icmplim=100 kern.ipc.somaxconn=1024 net.inet.tcp.icmp_may_rst=0 net.inet.ip.redirect=0 net.inet.tcp.blackhole=1 net.inet.udp.blackhole=1 kern.polling.enable=1 Has anyone else seen this behavior?? Thanks for any help!! Rich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:49:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B7516A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0913C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup222.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.222]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l0L2i69U003522 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:45:24 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0L2gQHf002820; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:42:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0L2fF3W002813; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:41:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:41:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ceri Davies Message-ID: <20070121024114.GA2767@kobe.laptop> References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F1267327@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20070119152124.GE25249@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070119152124.GE25249@submonkey.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.742, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE 0.20) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Dak Ghatikachalam , freebsd-questions , Murray Taylor Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:49:26 -0000 On 2007-01-19 15:21, Ceri Davies wrote: >On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they >> position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the >> text. My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I >> reply to a message. But it also makes it possible to tidy things >> up. > > To be fair to Microsoft (or perhaps this makes it even worse), their > Mac development team clearly understand this, as Entourage (the Mac > equivalent of Outlook) doesn't do any of the tens of stupid things > that Outlook does. Quite right. I have been talking with some colleagues recently about some of the things that *even* Entourage fails to do (i.e. wrapping of text and quoted material), but it is definitely a huge improvement over Outlook :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 02:58:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8754A16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2342513C455 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:58:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so82992nfc for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:58:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t9oxqszZ4Z0d/pC3zsFuyvRe4iBetmEY6k1BdgbLh07p4/gv1M6ELIdDwXW+EhCZWLa+LZHWbylh9s4SodaG6kpW6H6dyCtfFuykPML2tbiJfKx95MRk9gSBBIO8OE3skEce/+y188Fr+x7SiKDCTMxuvayfYE5jf7s8xwMytTY= Received: by 10.82.182.8 with SMTP id e8mr1919249buf.1169348332223; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:58:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:58:52 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <60882.192.168.11.7.1169318360.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:58:54 -0000 On 20/01/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > rm -rf /usr/src/* /usr/obj/* > > and then just cvsup a whole new set of sources. Terrific waste of bandwidth. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 03:18:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552A816A481 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (smtp-out.fcibroadband.com [64.119.104.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCE513C465 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in1.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7B11B1767 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with SMTP id 12351-04 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (host6614614647.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com [66.146.146.71]) by smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF371B1722 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:17:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:17:59 -0500 From: bobmc User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060615) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> In-Reply-To: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:18:05 -0000 Bob wrote: > > Hi: > > I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds > tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids > our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills > Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. > > I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by > just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest > PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one. > > Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are > now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This "modification" has > limited a mouse's life here to about one week! > > What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical > mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am > running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! > > If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to > configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not > cheap! > > Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All > input will be very much appreciated. > > Mouse-less on the Atlantic > Bob > > I have a Microsoft Optical Intellimouse for PS/2 or USB. It works fine except for the scroll-wheel. But I have not got around to configuring X to make it work. I doubt if FreeBSD cares which mouse you have. The mouse has a tiny hole in the bottom which gathers hair. It can be removed with a puff of breath. I also use a mechanical keyboard which can be cleaned. Don't bother trying to clean hairballs from these rubber-mat keyboards. Oh, the mouse is listed at $31.99 on tigerdirect.ca -BobMc- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 03:36:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B434E16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5159C13C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so89701nfc for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RGiweZVGw1rv13yfCtQFUplnix8UI/gQ5JbPiowF6EBx5LajKGNBBxhgNZhlc7fNVBK5eRW+Lkh1qpepdkhVvg7TV/958DqNWYUHjoq+1IolsEuf6fSJkcq/lwaH9cARnyrYrsJNjV8weIC0/jtAj+0U6BlldhSPmiDlQOEfKDE= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr3694845bue.1169350598955; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.14 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c0701201936g893180nea6b098f43f5d8d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 From: "Kevin Downey" To: bobmc In-Reply-To: <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:36:40 -0000 On 1/20/07, bobmc wrote: > Bob wrote: > > > > Hi: > > > > I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds > > tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids > > our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills > > Computer mice! Therein lies my problem. > > > > I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by > > just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest > > PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one. > > > > Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are > > now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This "modification" has > > limited a mouse's life here to about one week! > > > > What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical > > mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am > > running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! > > > > If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to > > configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not > > cheap! > > > > Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All > > input will be very much appreciated. > > > > Mouse-less on the Atlantic > > Bob > > > > > I have a Microsoft Optical Intellimouse for PS/2 or USB. It works fine > except for the scroll-wheel. But I have not got around to configuring > X to make it work. I doubt if FreeBSD cares which mouse you have. > > The mouse has a tiny hole in the bottom which gathers hair. It can be > removed with a puff of breath. I also use a mechanical keyboard which > can be cleaned. Don't bother trying to clean hairballs from these > rubber-mat keyboards. > > Oh, the mouse is listed at $31.99 on tigerdirect.ca > > -BobMc- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Xorg -configure now puts: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make the scrollwheel work -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 04:52:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8F816A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from mx4.x15.net (mx4.x15.net [69.55.237.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4C813C455 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:52:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@voidcaptain.com) Received: from j1.x15.net [63.196.213.76] by mx4.x15.net with ESMTP id 611291731X1H8URu000IowTO; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:36:58 +0000 Message-ID: <45B2EDCC.2090901@voidcaptain.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:36:28 -0800 From: Pete Slagle MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <~B45b012c10000.45b035cd0000.0001.mml.1959332346@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <45B1E278.7000607@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45B1E278.7000607@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:52:45 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > [You could make /etc/localtime a link or a symlink to the appropriate > file under /usr/share/zoneinfo, but only if /etc and /usr/share/zoneinfo > happen to be on the same filesystem (ie. on the root filesystem), which > is not the case in the default install of FreeBSD] As you suggest, making /etc/localtime a symlink ensures that the current /usr/share/zoneinfo file is always the one that actually gets used. That's an easy and significant benefit. So, why not do this on all boxes, even those that have / and /usr under separate filesystems? Granted, localtime will be unreadable whenever /usr is not mounted, but is that really a problem? Typically it will only be an issue at boot-time and in single user mode. The current time and file system times will be displayed in UTC, but this is only a small temporary inconvenience for the operator. Cron might not do its work as expected, but it is unlikely to be running in circumstances where /usr is not mounted. Perhaps some log files might be affected, but if /usr isn't mounted, then /var probably isn't either. Have I missed some big potential problem that might outweigh the benefit of using the symlink even when /etc/localtime and /usr/share/zoneinfo are on separate filesystems? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 04:55:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4085016A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@ircgnet.net) Received: from ws6-8.us4.outblaze.com (ws6-8.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29A8F13C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@ircgnet.net) Received: (qmail 2013 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2007 04:55:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (michael@ircgnet.net@67.168.235.146) by ws6-8.us4.outblaze.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2007 04:55:53 -0000 Message-ID: <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:55:54 -0800 From: Michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Albrecht References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F1267327@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com> <39ed86f90701181524x3c21c9f7sce09907f72a3f9c1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <39ed86f90701181524x3c21c9f7sce09907f72a3f9c1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dak Ghatikachalam , freebsd-questions , Murray Taylor Subject: Re: Mail etiquette X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 04:55:54 -0000 Greg Albrecht wrote: > On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> > Top-posting defined simply ... >> > >> > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. >> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> > A: Top-posting. >> > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? >> >> > Unfortunately all Micro$lop 'standard' email clients and a few >> > others put the cursor at the top of the email, so the bad habit has >> > developed across the world both domestically and in businesses, to >> > write there, rather than continuing the email thread at the bottom. >> >> "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are >> trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and >> not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of >> things that people should remove from replies. > > i've been wanting to chime in on this. perhaps it should be taken into > consideration that a good number of MODERN email clients support > automatic threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a > message after the original message, in succession. i understand that > different people configure and use their email clients in different > ways, but why is there such a pandering towards one versus the other. > my email software (gmail right now but has been mutt and thunderbird > in the past) makes it really easy for me to get the context of a > message as soon as it arrives. perhaps it's time for the rest of the > world to step up and add auto-threading to their mta's? > > just my $0.02. > > -g > > ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to > 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any > different than me having to scroll down to read your reply? > I couldn't agree more Greg A. I think it is time for most mta's step up and standardize a bit, but I also think people complain a little to much about top/bottom posting issue. Personally if the email app I'm using decides to place my cursor at the bottom/top, then that's where I start typing. The order in which a conversation takes place, rarely has little to do with the content of the thread. No offense to the 'groggy' one..... just my 2 cents is all. BTW, 'groggy' one, I love your books bro! Take care all, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 05:02:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E21916A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@ircgnet.net) Received: from ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com (ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B66313C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael@ircgnet.net) Received: (qmail 24287 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2007 05:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (michael@ircgnet.net@67.168.235.146) by ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2007 05:02:52 -0000 Message-ID: <45B2F3FD.4000705@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:02:53 -0800 From: Michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F1267327@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com> <39ed86f90701181524x3c21c9f7sce09907f72a3f9c1@mail.gmail.com> <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mail etiquette X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:02:52 -0000 Michael wrote: > Greg Albrecht wrote: >> On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> > Top-posting defined simply ... >>> > >>> > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. >>> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >>> > A: Top-posting. >>> > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? >>> >>> > Unfortunately all Micro$lop 'standard' email clients and a few >>> > others put the cursor at the top of the email, so the bad habit has >>> > developed across the world both domestically and in businesses, to >>> > write there, rather than continuing the email thread at the bottom. >>> >>> "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are >>> trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and >>> not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of >>> things that people should remove from replies. >> >> i've been wanting to chime in on this. perhaps it should be taken into >> consideration that a good number of MODERN email clients support >> automatic threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a >> message after the original message, in succession. i understand that >> different people configure and use their email clients in different >> ways, but why is there such a pandering towards one versus the other. >> my email software (gmail right now but has been mutt and thunderbird >> in the past) makes it really easy for me to get the context of a >> message as soon as it arrives. perhaps it's time for the rest of the >> world to step up and add auto-threading to their mta's? >> >> just my $0.02. >> >> -g >> >> ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to >> 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any >> different than me having to scroll down to read your reply? >> > I couldn't agree more Greg A. > > I think it is time for most mta's step up and standardize a bit, but I > also think people complain a little to much about top/bottom posting > issue. > Personally if the email app I'm using decides to place my cursor at > the bottom/top, then that's where I start typing. The order in which > a conversation takes place, rarely has little to do with the content > of the thread. > > No offense to the 'groggy' one..... just my 2 cents is all. > > BTW, 'groggy' one, I love your books bro! > > Take care all, > > Michael > Speaking of etiquette, sorry about the 'reply all' on my last post. Pretty pathetic considering the subject matter. LOL! Cya, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 05:10:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DB416A404 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4C13C455 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 488785089E; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20070121051002.488785089E@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:10:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2006-12-31 - 2007-01-20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:10:03 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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These are the articles posted during this period: 12-Jan : Cacti remote injection exploit How Cacti told me it was being exploited http://freebsddiary.org/cacti-exploit.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 05:22:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B3D16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@tamara-b.org) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF1413C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@tamara-b.org) Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A24CA87B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from tania.servebbs.org (pool-71-247-58-125.nycmny.east.verizon.net [71.247.58.125]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BF6CE1903 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tania.servebbs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tania.servebbs.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0L5LqYh005067 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:21:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bob@tamara-b.org) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:21:40 -0500 From: Bob To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070121002140.17f3d714@tania.servebbs.org> In-Reply-To: <1d3ed48c0701201936g893180nea6b098f43f5d8d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> <1d3ed48c0701201936g893180nea6b098f43f5d8d9@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Tamara B X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.6.1 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_Id9H2Fx7kYOF+tARTnQI_03; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (tania.servebbs.org [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:21:58 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tania.servebbs.org Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:22:11 -0000 --Sig_Id9H2Fx7kYOF+tARTnQI_03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 "Kevin Downey" wrote: > Xorg -configure now puts: > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make > the scrollwheel work >=20 You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button of a three button mouse? Mine works like the latter, I have yet to have it work as a scroll wheel, even though my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very same ZAxisMapping. =20 Bob --=20 /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign - Motor Vessel Tamara B X against HTML email & vCards - http://www.tamara-b.org / \ --Sig_Id9H2Fx7kYOF+tARTnQI_03 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFsvhwqEJbgtZS/7MRAikoAJ96sUMbo9fnqYl04kAxjnjoF4ZqjQCbBtN6 iImN98mJ55AVYiWPDymOBpc= =mJpj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_Id9H2Fx7kYOF+tARTnQI_03-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 05:29:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7255C16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F358D13C46A for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redchin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so109651nfc for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:29:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OOtk1sViIngDqh1KA+q5TevEjIFfZlxbBkWOpsU3gFkOKKzNx9/H4r4k6oTCkKDcaHpZRSShEM/UCRv1VXNEX0/otYZFr2GaSOfHaBXnCXcug6fF4ciAJcvb7q+QNMbMMTlkpwXt4YMX2XyRnDnf8zKN+TRRytx16eETwsztL1o= Received: by 10.82.118.2 with SMTP id q2mr3873809buc.1169357382508; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.14 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:29:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1d3ed48c0701202129n19c6269bm55f5484d273a0274@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:29:42 -0800 From: "Kevin Downey" To: Bob In-Reply-To: <20070121002140.17f3d714@tania.servebbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> <1d3ed48c0701201936g893180nea6b098f43f5d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <20070121002140.17f3d714@tania.servebbs.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:29:44 -0000 On 1/20/07, Bob wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:36:38 -0800 > "Kevin Downey" wrote: > > > Xorg -configure now puts: > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > > in the mouse section by default, which is all I've ever needed to make > > the scrollwheel work > > > > You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button of a three > button mouse? Mine works like the latter, I have yet to have it work as > a scroll wheel, even though my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very > same ZAxisMapping. > > Bob hrrrm what is your moused setup like? my laptop's touchpad has two buttons, so I pass -3 to moused and that fouls up the third button (either clicking or scrolling I forget which) when I plugin a usb mouse. I changed the line in /etc/devd.conf that handles starting moused for usb mice so -3 isn't used and it works fine. -- The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 05:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0EB16A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302A413C45D for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net (jn@c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.59.28.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0L5qtcG061701; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:52:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701210052.55225.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Joshua Lewis Subject: Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:52:57 -0000 On Saturday 20 January 2007 21:15, Joshua Lewis wrote: > Hello list, > > After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough > sleep I have a working asterisk PBX for my home. > > I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives > in a Raid1 config. While this system should suffice I would like to > streamline the system a little. > > I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is > there a way to figure out what software I don't need. I did a > pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps installed. I know I > don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random > packages. After having a non working phone for two weeks my wife > would kill me if I messed it all up again. > > Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could > use gastman to try and get my Asterisk config working faster. I > never wound up using gastman so now I need to remove it and xorg. But > there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things. > > Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of > days? > > Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed > anymore? I'm a big fan of sysutils/pkg_cutleaves. It recurses through the dependency tree of your installed ports and shows you the "leaf" nodes (packages that nothing else depends on). You tell it which ones to get rid of and it uninstalls them and repeats the process until no new leaf nodes are found. I run it every couple months even on systems that don't necessarily need to be streamlined just to keep from updating software I'm not using any more. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 06:30:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58FC16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA8113C45B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2279713377A; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:00:23 +1030 (CST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126F51A9C98; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:00:23 +1030 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:00:23 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Michael Message-ID: <20070121063022.GA78139@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F1267327@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal> <20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com> <39ed86f90701181524x3c21c9f7sce09907f72a3f9c1@mail.gmail.com> <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 VoIP: sip:0871270137@sip.internode.on.net WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Dak Ghatikachalam , freebsd-questions , Greg Albrecht , Murray Taylor Subject: Re: Mail etiquette X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 06:30:24 -0000 --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday, 20 January 2007 at 20:55:54 -0800, Michael wrote: > Greg Albrecht wrote: >> >> ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to >> 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any >> different than me having to scroll down to read your reply? I hadn't intended to respond to this, but since I'm replying anyway, the answer is "none", of course. If you put all your reply at the bottom, you miss important things, like the text you both quoted: >> On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> "Top posting" is only one issue. Others of great importance are >>> trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and >>> not writing one-line paragraphs. (end of quotation). In summary: if you don't trim your messages, you'll have more difficulty getting your point across, and also more difficulty understanding what you're replying to. If you trim your messages to what's necessary, people will need to read the entire message anyway. > I couldn't agree more Greg A. > > I think it is time for most mta's step up and standardize a bit, but I > also think people complain a little to much about top/bottom posting > issue. In general, I don't complain. I just delete messages unseen if they annoy me. The annoyance depends on whether the message is even marginally intelligible; frequently it's not. > Personally if the email app I'm using decides to place my cursor at > the bottom/top, then that's where I start typing. "The computer made me do it!". Surely *you* should want to be in charge. > The order in which a conversation takes place, rarely has little to > do with the content of the thread. Agreed. It is closely related. But I think you tripped over your own keyboard on that statement. Remember the text at http://www.lemis.com/email.html , which I think was quoted here: Your mail message is all that many people see of you, and if it's poorly formatted, one line per paragraph, badly spelt, or full of errors, it will give people a poor impression of you. In the impersonal world of the Internet, your mail messages are the most tangible thing about you. Send out a well thought out, clear and legible message, and you will leave a good impression. Send out a badly formulated, badly formatted and badly spelt message, and you will leave a bad impression. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFswh+IubykFB6QiMRAkq0AKCC7Clv333xgo0jfO92lxRW8pR4cwCgqDV/ dA7dtSmUYmxdqUdHT+vjsCA= =nyRI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 07:26:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D276B16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A341713C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l0L7QR1R058418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l0L7QRWU058417; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA05192; Sat, 20 Jan 07 22:40:52 PST Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:43:16 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: bob@tamara-b.org Message-Id: <45b30b84.zMUPEttJgLoTwQJl%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20070120100322.747bc208@tania.servebbs.org> <45B2DB67.4070208@bobmc.net> <1d3ed48c0701201936g893180nea6b098f43f5d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <20070121002140.17f3d714@tania.servebbs.org> In-Reply-To: <20070121002140.17f3d714@tania.servebbs.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:26:27 -0000 > You mean work like a scrollwheel, or as the center button > of a three button mouse? Mine works like the latter, > I have yet to have it work as a scroll wheel, even though > my /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains the very same ZAxisMapping. This (6.1) box has a Logitech TrackMan Marble+ trackball. When pressed, the wheel acts like a center button. When rolled, it acts like a scrollwheel. I have turned off Xterm scrollbars, because the wheel does the job without taking up screen space. I had a bit of a hassle when initially setting up Xorg, because I didn't particularly want to enable console mouse and therefore needed to have Xorg use the mouse directly. Other than that, it "just works". There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf on this box. What I take to be the relevant parts of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xorg.conf are: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 07:29:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FC016A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8643D13C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A37D1A4D82; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93BA6512E1; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:29:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:29:22 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Rich Winkel Message-ID: <20070121072922.GA16776@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200701210156.l0L1u8JA050864@pencil.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701210156.l0L1u8JA050864@pencil.math.missouri.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail server intermittent freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:29:26 -0000 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:56:08PM -0600, Rich Winkel wrote: > I'm pulling out what's left of my hair trying to figure out this one. > It's not a pretty sight. Save the people who have to look at me! >=20 > It's a 1ghz intel P3 with 512MB ram, running 4.11-p26 with sendmail, > imapd-uw, qpopper, stunnel-4.14_2 and p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.1, as > well as tty logins. > It's an nis and nfs client (nfs=3Dhome dirs). It has an fxp network card > which is in polling mode (although the problem started before it was put > in polling mode) >=20 > The system will freeze maybe every 5 minutes, sometimes for up to > a minute. Almost completely: low level terminal io on the console > still works. I can switch tty's (ALT-Fn) and carriage returns > are echoed (and discarded) while showing "netstat -w 1" output. > But interactive prompts are frozen. No user-level processing is > apparent. Network traffic is heavy, we're getting massive amounts > of spam, and spamd's load on the system has jumped considerably > in the past few weeks. Average system load used to hover around .8, > now it averages over 2, mostly due to spamd. Usually this is because a transient load is causing it to swap. 512MB isn't really a lot of RAM on a heavily loaded server. Kris --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFsxZRWry0BWjoQKURAl1/AKD6ci/at8BGUwSVQBBcN7tCUd5LvQCZAdxQ 887wMIoFj/oU98evdt9HXmE= =7+pQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 08:12:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0337016A53A for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9570D13C44C for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so720679uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YVKpz+HiZIvWnYQPsWATI3afrOVCU/21rjBrUYUTmJFZdiIkuiZZAveiIxNCx7Y77/vlyrWRKFrHVU0JKMXkBSyEkx1XWs/tFXMSeHduPQLi2vtu8xPPQnXIwVp7GOlJAB6dqOFMJgkC+8eZf3hAhd1kIycFAIsHoMDugvx9o/8= Received: by 10.67.97.18 with SMTP id z18mr5679342ugl.1169367145208; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0701210012x565debedve015e2d18b95ee1b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:12:25 +0300 From: "Abdullah Al-Marrie" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Turion64 x2 vs Centrino Duo 2 which is faster for FreeBSD and KDE Desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:12:27 -0000 Hello, I plan to buy a new notebook and will use FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, I have 2 choices, Turion64 x2 with 2.0 GHz and Centrino Duo 2 with 2.0 GHz, but with 2 GB DDR2 ram, with the same speed of the hd 5400 RPM. So which of them will buildworld, and ports from source faster? both of them will use AC not on battery when do these stuff. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 09:33:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25A116A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D29713C43E for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so723117uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:33:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jTqDvKd6c2hnAoZt+dSEYiEyAq48fRLxKGZgz+WyFaIYYU9sFNd6c+lqw7O5VifrO1lYBBQ99riszfFhxdTUTEg+LtJgZ2zdxAcvzDU07CEZv9HoOJMj8zsZ9BQUBt0C8C73uX5p+fTlSkCMksz0ewjWG4ozvzNAVeiK3qikvg0= Received: by 10.67.20.3 with SMTP id x3mr5743638ugi.1169372012293; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:33:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0701210133m5c84a2d4y9da03778b8beb29b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:33:32 +0300 From: "Abdullah Al-Marrie" To: "Luigi Rizzo" In-Reply-To: <20070120100734.A69783@xorpc.icir.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c70c0701200129j12cd02f5ra40808b9fe0b272a@mail.gmail.com> <20070120052330.B67194@xorpc.icir.org> <499c70c0701201005n177bd425wee7136bbb59f8c7f@mail.gmail.com> <20070120100734.A69783@xorpc.icir.org> Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why I can't get Wide screen with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:33:34 -0000 On 1/20/07, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 06:05:45PM +0000, Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote: > > On 1/20/07, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 07:38:36AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > > > > under the subsection of display, i have > > > > Modes "1024x768" > > > > maybe you can try using "1280x800" > > > > > > in order to get the higher resolutions, you should > > > probably install the port > > > > > > /usr/ports/sysutils/915resolution > > > > > > which redefines the bios modes. > > > In my case (Dell Latitude X1) i run it as > > > > > > #--- set 1280 resolution on video > > > /usr/local/bin/915resolution 5c 1280 768 > > > > > > you should probably change the 768 to 800 if that's your > > > screen height. > > > > > > cheers > > > luigi > > > > luigi, > > > > That worked, thank you! > > > > DELL# /usr/local/bin/915resolution -l > > Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2 > > > > Chipset: 945GM > > BIOS: TYPE 1 > > Mode Table Offset: $C0000 + $269 > > Mode Table Entries: 36 > > > > Mode 30 : 640x480, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 32 : 800x600, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 34 : 1024x768, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 38 : 1280x1024, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 3a : 1600x1200, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 3c : 1920x1440, 8 bits/pixel > > Mode 41 : 640x480, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 43 : 800x600, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 45 : 1024x768, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 49 : 1280x1024, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 4b : 1600x1200, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 4d : 1920x1440, 16 bits/pixel > > Mode 50 : 640x480, 32 bits/pixel > > Mode 52 : 800x600, 32 bits/pixel > > Mode 54 : 1024x768, 32 bits/pixel > > Mode 58 : 1280x1024, 32 bits/pixel > > Mode 5a : 1600x1200, 32 bits/pixel > > Mode 5c : 1920x1440, 32 bits/pixel > > > > > > DELL# /usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024 > > Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.2 > > > > Chipset: 945GM > > BIOS: TYPE 1 > > Mode Table Offset: $C0000 + $269 > > Mode Table Entries: 36 > > > > Patch mode 58 to resolution 1280x1024 complete > > > > I also set > > > > Section "Screen" > > Identifier "Screen0" > > Device "Card0" > > Monitor "Monitor0" > > SubSection "Display" > > Viewport 0 0 > > Depth 32 > > Modes "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" > > EndSubSection > > > > But once I rebooted the laptop I lose it, and I have to do it again > > after the FreeBSD starts > > > > Is there a work around for this issue? > > i put the line > /usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024 > > in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/00setvideo.sh > so it gets called automatically at startup > > cheers > luigi That didn't make it, is there another way to do it? will xorg 7.2 going to fix this issue when it's released? -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 09:42:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A02316A400; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rizzo@icir.org) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DBF13C448; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rizzo@icir.org) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0L9gVlV077353; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id l0L9gVR4077352; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:42:31 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: Abdullah Al-Marrie Message-ID: <20070121014231.A77340@xorpc.icir.org> References: <499c70c0701200129j12cd02f5ra40808b9fe0b272a@mail.gmail.com> <20070120052330.B67194@xorpc.icir.org> <499c70c0701201005n177bd425wee7136bbb59f8c7f@mail.gmail.com> <20070120100734.A69783@xorpc.icir.org> <499c70c0701210133m5c84a2d4y9da03778b8beb29b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <499c70c0701210133m5c84a2d4y9da03778b8beb29b@mail.gmail.com>; from almarrie@gmail.com on Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:33:32PM +0300 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Why I can't get Wide screen with Intel graphics X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:42:32 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 12:33:32PM +0300, Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote: ... > > i put the line > > /usr/local/bin/915resolution 58 1280 1024 > > > > in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/00setvideo.sh > > so it gets called automatically at startup > > > > cheers > > luigi > > That didn't make it, is there another way to do it? will xorg 7.2 check the permissionson the file. it must work. luigi > going to fix this issue when it's released? > > > -- > Regards, > > -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > Arab Portal > http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 11:46:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2041016A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA67313C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:46:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id l0LBkax67804; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <013001c73d51$a5bcaf00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: References: <45AC719A.1020809@bobmc.net><008401c73adc$aab2a900$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645><20070118154349.587b2673@gumby.homeunix.com><010601c73b99$78bd1080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645><45b085ad.bj2Z1G8SQNxJ0p6O%perryh@pluto.rain.com><003001c73c6e$87665c10$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b2aaf9.V2NP8H4RCXmKwvIZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:45:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:46:40 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:51 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet > > What really grates is that I have to pay Verizon *more* if I want > *less* from them! Would you pay $40K for a pickup, if you could get > the same truck, from the same dealer, for $35K including a camper? > That sort of pricing, by a monopoly, is supposed to be illegal (at > least in the U.S.). > That's $5K difference not $10. Thieves can get away with a lot if they steal it in small bits. > > What I don't get is I > > see guys walking in dropping $1000 on associated Mac hardware crap > > without blinking, then they squawk about paying an additional $9 > > a month on DSL? That grand on Mac crap will pay for 9 years of > > DSL at this so-called "unreasonable" rate. > > The most expensive system around here is a Mac Sawtooth that cost > $225 -- including a 17" monitor -- last September. The (Dell) > FreeBSD box I'm using at the moment cost $10 at a flea market, > plus something like $40 for a 160GB hard drive to replace the > original 10GB that failed after a few months. The one I'm going > to be installing 6.2 on -- also a Dell -- was less than $5 at a > yard sale. > This is a totally unfair comparison. They guy dropping $1K on a Mac is walking out with a machine that is fully configured and ready to run. When you get an old clunker by the time you tally up the time you have spent on getting it ready to run, your at the same amount. Cheap independent desktop support goes for about $35-$50 and hour, and none of those guys could load an Open Source OS and do any serious configuration on it if their lives depended on it. Skilled UNIX tech time is at min $95 an hour. Your talking a min of 4 hours to get a Goodwill find up and going on FreeBSD by the time you work out the quirks, assuming that the ram in it doesen't have a flaw and the disk is good, if you have to replace that stuff you count the hours it takes to drive to Fry's and back, buy the disk, etc.. well your getting pretty close to that $1K in my book. Of course, I understand you might be regarding that time as "free" but it's only "free" to you - not to anyone else who can't do this - they have to pay for it. Thus, you have to factor it in when making comparisons. In any case I was really speaking about the delta in a more general sense. I see a lot of folks going to comcast - who as I understand their pricing, for Internet service only over comcast, you pay more too. The real point is how much do you value something? Are you going to say that PPP-only DSL service from an ISP (verizon.net) that does not give you a static IP number, and has a support desk that is based in India and only speaks Windowease (and does a poor job of that) is worth the same as all-the-time-on fully bridged DSL service with a static IP and no goofy MTU size restrictions and is supported by the same people that built the system and who run Windows, FreeBSD and Linux both on their desktops and servers? Naturally, as an ISP employee this is my personal soapbox, but let me put it another way. Right now there is a revolution going on with food. 40 years ago you went to the grocery store and bought bread and all they had was Wonder air bread. You went to the bar and bought a beer and all they had was Bud. Restaurants either came in Burger, Steak, or American Menu. In short, the quality of food had descended into the toilet as a result of the constant push to sell it cheaper that started in the late 1940's. (epomized by Brother McDonald) Today, you go to the grocery store and sure you can still get the air-bread. But for more money you can get bread that tastes far, far better, and was baked locally. You go to the bar and sure you can still get the cheap Bud that was peed out of some horse back in the Midwest and carried in 1000 gallon tank trucks, or you can pay more money and get the better tasting microbrewed stuff that someone brewed in small batches right there. What has happened is that people stopped comparing food based solely on price and started looking for quality, and when that happened, all the sudden companies appeared that supplied the better quality, albet at a bit higher price. I'd rather drink a milkshake from a place like Baskin Robbins and pay more for it than a cheaper milkshake at McDonalds. Lots of people would rather pay more for the better tasting coffee at Starbucks than the cheap stuff out of the office vending machine. Why is it OK for the food industry to be like this, and it's not OK for the Internet Service industry to be like this? It seems like everyone only wants Internet Service to be as cheap as possible and couldn't give a damn about quality. > > When I was looking, I couldn't find any for much less than double, > but it has been a while. Do you happen to know of any low-cost > DSL providers who offer service in Washington County, Oregon, and > who will actually support (as opposed to tolerate) FreeBSD and/or > Linux? It would also be good if they knew what a firewall is -- > last time I had a problem after a Verizon "system upgrade" the only > arrangement that Verizon was willing to troubleshoot was a Windoze > box connected directly to the DSL modem. This does not strike me > as an acceptable level of security. > Actually, it so happens the office of the ISP I work at is a stones throw of Krispy Kreme near Sunset Highway and Cornell. Call us Monday during business hours 503-690-2700 and ask for Scott and when you get him, ask for residential Verizon DSL pricing, you can tell him I said to call if you want. Your welcome to post your opinions of what you find out, here. > > Basically IMHO the Verizon pricing program was designed to push > > the really tiny independents, ie: the guys that might have a > > grand total of 5 or 10 Verizon DSL customers, off of their network. > > That would have violated at least the intent, if not the letter, of > the antitrust laws. Actually, no. Here's the problem. Have you ever wondered why the telephone companies over the last 10 years have all stopped referring to themselves as "telephone" companies and started referring to themselves as "communications companies"? The reason is that they successfully convinced the FCC that an ISP can be nothing more than services offered by the telephone company. (or cable or dish, company) So, in most areas you have a telephone company that offers DSL, and a cable company that offers cable Internet. So according to the FCC, there -is- competition because there are 2 separate ISPs there. One ISP is owned by the telephone company and the other is owned by the cable company. > My suspicion is that they wanted no competition > whatsoever (also an antitrust violation). For a while, they did. Then Verizon realized that they had cherry-picked all of the Internet service customers that were chomping at the bit to move to DSL and that fresh DSL customers would come from dialup customers, and new ones of those dialup customers were only going to come from the independent ISP's. Dialup is the gateway drug to DSL but by definition the only people out there seeking dialup, are the bottom feeders (people who won't pay a penny more than the absolute minum) and as a result would never countenence paying the extra money for broadband. Verizon is leaving it to the independent ISP's to deal with this crowd. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 11:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4CB16A404 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522D413C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:58:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C905560414C for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:58:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id B03EF15213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:58:29 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:58:29 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <200701210156.l0L1u8JA050864@pencil.math.missouri.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169380709 54703 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 11:58:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:58:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Mail server intermittent freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:58:32 -0000 On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:08 -0600 (CST) Rich Winkel wrote: > Has anyone else seen this behavior?? What are the HDs doing? Is there swapping going on? 512 megs of RAM are not really a generous amount for this kind of work. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 12:05:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF48416A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx2.netclusive.de (mx2.netclusive.de [89.110.132.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719BC13C4B7 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx2.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2827B26002D for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:05:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 15CB415213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:05:37 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:05:36 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <45AC719A.1020809@bobmc.net> <008401c73adc$aab2a900$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070118154349.587b2673@gumby.homeunix.com> <010601c73b99$78bd1080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b085ad.bj2Z1G8SQNxJ0p6O%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <003001c73c6e$87665c10$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b2aaf9.V2NP8H4RCXmKwvIZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <013001c73d51$a5bcaf00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169381136 54703 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 12:05:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:05:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:05:41 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:45:27 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > That's $5K difference not $10. Thieves can get away with a lot if they > steal it in small bits. So if I steal $1 from every account of New York's biggest bank they would smile and see that as a sporting achievement? Somehow I doubt that. SCNR Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 12:12:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7571316A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B48713C44B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801F4DE80DA for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:12:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 9550F15213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:12:12 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:12:12 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <499c70c0701210012x565debedve015e2d18b95ee1b@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169381532 54703 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 12:12:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:12:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Turion64 x2 vs Centrino Duo 2 which is faster for FreeBSD and KDE Desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:12:15 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:12:25 +0300 Abdullah Al-Marrie wrote: [broken up Xpost] > I plan to buy a new notebook and will use FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, I have > 2 choices, Turion64 x2 with 2.0 GHz and Centrino Duo 2 with 2.0 GHz, > but with 2 GB DDR2 ram, with the same speed of the hd 5400 RPM. > > So which of them will buildworld, and ports from source faster? both > of them will use AC not on battery when do these stuff. I doubt that you will notice any big difference. While the AMD64 port is quite nicely tested and very swift by now, the optimizations towards Intel aren't bad either - even though this isn't true 64Bit processor. In this case the HD will probably be the bottle-neck, not being able to read and write the data quick enough to cause 100% CPU load. You would have to 'make -j 4' at least to get anywhere near 100% load (I even have to do that for 2 UltraSPARC II CPUs with 450MHz). And that really causes load on a hard drive. Just my 2 cents... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 14:29:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D910616A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from regulus.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9190613C44C for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by regulus.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0LETrBI072338 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:29:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:29:52 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <60882.192.168.11.7.1169318360.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701210829.52858.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on regulus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:29:57 -0000 On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > Terrific waste of bandwidth. *shrug* i dont see it that way. i see it as insurance that when i build kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build. cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 15:00:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BCC16A410 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hika@bsdmon.com) Received: from bigfugu.bsdmon.com (218.128.101-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.101.128.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698AA13C468 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hika@bsdmon.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bigfugu.bsdmon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81A06268; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:59:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from bigfugu.bsdmon.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigfugu.bsdmon.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03949-03; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:59:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from sdf1.bsdmon.com (sdf1.macross.vfx [10.0.1.1]) by bigfugu.bsdmon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33FC26266; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:59:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:59:25 +0100 From: Gilbert Cao To: Vince Hoffman Message-ID: <20070121145925.GA3130@bsdmon.com> References: <200701172234.12466.daniel.tourde@spray.se> <45AEC0F4.3070900@unsane.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45AEC0F4.3070900@unsane.co.uk> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE i386 Organization: BSDMon X-GPG-Key: http://www.bsdmon.com/public_key.gpg User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bsdmon.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, daniel.tourde@spray.se Subject: Re: How to install the 3945ABG Driver on a fresh FreeBSD 6.2 install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:00:37 -0000 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:36:04AM +0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > I hate to say this but this driver only seems to compile on -CURRENT as= =20 > far as i can tell (and as far as the conversation at=20 > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D0+0+archive/2007/freebsd-d= rivers/20070107.freebsd-drivers=20 > leads me to believe.) > There is another less complete driver floating around that is usable on= =20 > 6.x although it only works for some people and even then only at 6 meg=20 > (i believe the conversation i linked contains links to that driver if=20 > you dont fancy running current.) >=20 > Vince Hi, I think you are talking about that one http://people.freebsd.org/~flz/local/wpi/wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz about a "less complete driver" "usable on 6.x". And, yes, I have tried it, but it did not work for me. (I don't know yet how it works for some people). In my case, with ifconfig, the status is still on "no carrier". No "associated" status. About the following, http://www.clearchain.com/~benjsc/download/20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz basically yes, it only compiles on -CURRENT. I have tried it and it works for me. As I wanted to stay on 6.x, I have installed a 6.2-RELEASE, and tried to make the 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz compiles. Here, you will find the result of my work : http://www.bsdmon.com/download/20070121-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz To make it compiles, I basically started from 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz and took some code on wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz. Now, this new one compiles and it works for me : "status: associated" on ifconfig output. Don't ask why I do this or that, in the code. I don't really know :p. First, I just wanted to make the latest package I found, compile. And, on the plus side, it works for me. In the package, I have kept the original file as .orig, so you will see what I have added and changed. I have intentionally commented WPI_DEBUG and WPI_CURRENT. About WPI_CURRENT, this have to be commented, on 6.x. About WPI_DEBUG, it is just that I wanted to get rid of lots of output, in my daily use. Hope it helps ;) --=20 -------------------------------- (hika) Gilbert Cao http://www.miaouirc.com - MiaouIRC Project 2002-2003 http://www.bsdmon.com - The BSD DMON Power to serve IRC : #miaule at IRCNET Network -------------------------------- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFs3/MSyQfFTqAEpcRAndBAJ9nIxB7g9pUyB65wrnRpF7vo6TneQCeIBmX bkxRihwsRGQhUWl/IRPrla0= =G7xj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 15:05:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B099416A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799DE13C469 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i11so339123nzh for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:05:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Q9936MgjP8zDexsXRMrRAIA+xFk2760WPckEUYaaR0aoVnzfcRUoS+OP0fUhj+GQShLLTIgPObaKHP5ubQFp2z+fVqAVmhnHsF0muXjflrK2RjPFwOfXr/pIDvh8KAjxSoZXFFceCEPVOvLBsJ5g4fEvlLwmetwjD0OPdvqI1T0= Received: by 10.65.194.13 with SMTP id w13mr4215623qbp.1169391918948; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.185.8 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 07:05:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9888aa630701210705r533a1085x9a06f26ee834d173@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:05:18 +0000 From: eoghan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:05:22 -0000 Hi I am trying to run the freebsd-update, so as root I do: /usr/local/sbin/freebsd-update fetch And I get: Fetching public key... fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/amd64/6.1/pub.key: Not Found Error fetching updates My conf looks like: # Configuration file for freebsd-update-client # # Specifies the base URL from which updates will be fetched URL=http://update.daemonology.net/ # Specifies a trusted public key fingerprint KEYPRINT=f212b8797f3b2f981a772cdbacccfed9 Any ideas why this is not working? Thanks Eoghan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 16:19:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE0B16A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: from glitch.carpetsmoker.net (carpetsmoker.xs4all.nl [82.93.23.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775FC13C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: by glitch.carpetsmoker.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B83D8B839; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:19:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:19:53 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070121161952.GB8354@glitch.carpetsmoker.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:19:52 -0000 On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 09:15:34PM -0500, Joshua Lewis wrote: > Hello list, > > After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough sleep I have a working > asterisk PBX for my home. > > I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives in a Raid1 config. While this > system should suffice I would like to streamline the system a little. > > I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is there a way to figure out what > software I don't need. I did a pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps installed. I know I > don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random packages. After having a non working > phone for two weeks my wife would kill me if I messed it all up again. > > Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could use gastman to try and get my > Asterisk config working faster. I never wound up using gastman so now I need to remove it and xorg. > But there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things. > > Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of days? > > Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed anymore? > > Are there any other ways to streamline a system? > > I removed everything from rc.conf except the basics. Hostname, defualtrouter, ifconfig, keyrate, > linux_enable, saver, sshd, asterisk. > > Here is what I have installed. > > [PKG_INFO SNIP] > > > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net You can use stat to see when a file was last accessed, for example, on my system stat -x /usr/local/bin/7z show (among other things): Access: Mon Jan 15 00:34:11 2007 So, I last used 7z on jan 15th, at 00:34. I suppose you could write a script to automatically remove packages which haven't been used for a X amount of time, but I would not recommend doing this, because you might accidentally remove a package you don't want to remove. Examples would be dos2unix, antiword, 7zip, packges you might not use a lot, but sure come in handy at times! Also, it would require quite some work, probably more work than you'll save. Another hint may be this: pkg_info -adrR > PKGINFO This will generate a list of all your installed packages including dependency's and a description (from pkg-descr) Drop the -d flag if you don't want descriptions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 16:26:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D576516A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E0F13C4B8 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:26:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E2DDE80AF for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:25:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id A06D915213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <60882.192.168.11.7.1169318360.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200701210829.52858.freebsd@dfwlp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169396755 55755 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 16:25:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:25:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:26:00 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:29:52 -0600 Jonathan Horne wrote: >> Terrific waste of bandwidth. > > *shrug* i dont see it that way. i see it as insurance that when i build > kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, > with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build. There is no such thing as "dirty" sources - at least not by your definition. cvsup or the new builtin replacement replaces old files with new ones and erases obsolete ones. And there is *never* anthing left over from a previous build in /usr/src/! All the work is done in /usr/obj/ and you can erase that at any time. In fact the target cleanworld does just that. Rebuilding the source tree isn't a big deal in terms of bandwidth, but thousands of people doing that on a regular basis will drive the costs of maintaining mirrors up - even though traffic is getting cheaper with time. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 16:45:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C2516A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCBC13C465 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:45:05 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Becker References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:11 -0000 Glenn Becker wrote: > > All - > > I've been away from FreeBSD for some time and have been updating my > installation, getting used to the ways of portupgrade, etc. > > Have noticed that Firefox keeps emitting what sound like console beeps - > I haven't established much of a pattern for these though it always > happens when I close the app. > > Is there a way to kill these? Apologies in advance if this is a dopey > question. Obviously more an annoyance than anything. perhaps -questions is more appropriate... Anyway, that makes two of us - mine beeps too - when sending and reading mails. No idea why though, sorry. Anyone? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 16:45:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD3B16A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from public.aci.on.ca (aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D8713C471 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from (invalid client hostname: host address literal does not match remote client address)[127.0.0.1] (xtreme-156-171.dyn.aci.on.ca[69.17.156.171] port=2282) by public.aci.on.ca([205.207.148.252] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (1823 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:45:18 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2006-Feb-21) Message-ID: <45B398B0.5030906@qwirky.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:45:36 -0500 From: Jeff Royle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <60882.192.168.11.7.1169318360.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200701210829.52858.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200701210829.52858.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0704-0, 18/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@qwirky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:45:33 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >> Terrific waste of bandwidth. > > *shrug* i dont see it that way. i see it as insurance that when i build > kernels for 15 machines, they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, > with absolutely nothing left over from a previous build. > If you wish to sync 15 machines and plan on doing that a lot, it would benefit you to setup a private cvs mirror. You use 1 machine as your mirror, it syncs say once a day or week or hour whatever off the main cvs mirror sites. You then have your other machines sync off that. This would ensure all your systems are kept in line with the same src. This would save on bandwidth for both yourself and the mirror sites. Cheers, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 16:46:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4849A16A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:46:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from regulus.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED34A13C471 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by regulus.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0LGkMnV072846 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:46:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:46:22 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701211046.22498.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on regulus.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:46:25 -0000 On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:15, Joshua Lewis wrote: > Hello list, > > After many days of hard work, a lot of caffeine and not nearly enough > sleep I have a working asterisk PBX for my home. > > I have it working on a PIII 800 with 512MB of RAM and two 5GB drives > in a Raid1 config. While this system should suffice I would like to > streamline the system a little. > > I installed a lot of unnecessary applications during sysisntall. Is > there a way to figure out what software I don't need. I did a > pkg_info | wc -l and found that I have 63 apps installed. I know I > don't need a bunch of these but I am afraid to delete random > packages. After having a non working phone for two weeks my wife > would kill me if I messed it all up again. > > Any ways I know I don't need xorg any more. I installed it so I could > use gastman to try and get my Asterisk config working faster. I > never wound up using gastman so now I need to remove it and xorg. But > there are a bunch of fonts and docs and things. > > Is it possible to remove any packages I have not used for X amount of > days? > > Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed > anymore? > > Are there any other ways to streamline a system? > > I removed everything from rc.conf except the basics. Hostname, > defualtrouter, ifconfig, keyrate, linux_enable, saver, sshd, asterisk. > > Here is what I have installed. > [snipped] > > Sincerely, > Joshua Lewis > joshua.lewis@familyfunzone.net > > all of my systems, whether desktops or servers, i start with the minimal install. from there, i use the ports collection to buildout anything i need. i know this is probably the long way around for most cases, but i feel in the end, there is nothing on there that i didnt deliberately put on there. next time up, try a minimal install, and then just cd right into the directory of the port that will define your system. when you 'make install clean', it should process just the dependencies that your PBX needs. cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 17:17:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2D016A557 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: from glitch.carpetsmoker.net (carpetsmoker.xs4all.nl [82.93.23.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7413C448 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:17:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: by glitch.carpetsmoker.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 065B9B835; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:17:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:17:20 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070121171719.GA8903@glitch.carpetsmoker.net> References: <60882.192.168.11.7.1169318360.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <200701201325.16571.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200701210829.52858.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <45B398B0.5030906@qwirky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B398B0.5030906@qwirky.net> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: upgrading from 6.1 to 6.2 with custom kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:17:19 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:45:36AM -0500, Jeff Royle wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: > >On Saturday 20 January 2007 20:58, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > >>Terrific waste of bandwidth. > >*shrug* i dont see it that way. i see it as insurance that when i build kernels for 15 machines, > >they are all getting the cleanest sources possible, with absolutely nothing left over from a > >previous build. > > If you wish to sync 15 machines and plan on doing that a lot, it would benefit you to setup a > private cvs mirror. > > You use 1 machine as your mirror, it syncs say once a day or week or hour whatever off the main cvs > mirror sites. > > You then have your other machines sync off that. This would ensure all your systems are kept in > line with the same src. > > This would save on bandwidth for both yourself and the mirror sites. > > Cheers, > > Jeff Another possible solution would be to export your /usr/src directory with NFS. I use this for my src and ports directory, and it works quite well, it's easy to setup, bandwidth friendly, and easy to maintain. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 17:42:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75A616A406 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx2.netclusive.de (mx2.netclusive.de [89.110.132.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A927E13C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx2.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE261260027 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:42:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id EA9AC15213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:42:30 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:42:30 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <20070119000018.GA81096@xor.obsecurity.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169401350 55755 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 17:42:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:42:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Does Firefox run on the SPARC64 port of FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:42:34 -0000 On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:04:00 +0100 (CET) Christian Baer wrote: >> Basically, it does not work on 6.1-RELEASE, so you should consider >> updating to 6.2-RELEASE. > > Bin there, done that. Was one of the first things I tried. Now running: > > FreeBSD sunny.rz1.convenimus.net 6.2-STABLE > FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 16 16:14:35 CET 2007 > root@sunny.rz1.convenimus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUNNY sparc64 > > I'll do another cvsup and make a new world tonight. I'll let you know if > that works. I did a cvsup last night. Wasn't really watching it, but it was over pretty quickly, so I'd say that there wasn't that much change. Anyways, this is what I have now: FreeBSD sunny.rz1.convenimus.net 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 21 12:52:35 CET 2007 root@sunny.rz1.convenimus.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUNNY sparc64 Gotta change the name of the computer. Sunny is just too corny! :-) Not much has changed apart from the dates. And nothing has changed regarding Firefox. I completely deinstalled it - which took its sweet time. :-) And I also deinstalled Thunderbird and all of the dependencies of those two that I could find. Then I reinstalled Firefox with pkg_add -r in case there was an update in the tree. I still get that segfault, so I'm afraid someone may be looking a little longer there. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:07:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F1016A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032EB13C459 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LI7RsH003797 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:27 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LI7QIM006171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:27 -0800 Message-ID: <45B3ABE8.1050403@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:07:36 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.95433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Rebuilding kernel / world on another disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:07:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok, I kind of worked myself into a corner by only bringing a USB keyboard and accidentally making logins impossible via the network (bad firewall setup with IPFilter). Basically I have a disk with FreeBSD 7-CURRENT on it and I have a working machine with FreeBSD 6.2 on it, and I need to build a kernel for the FreeBSD 7-CURRENT machine so I can get it back up and running with USB keyboard support and disable IPFilter. - -Is there a means to properly mount psuedofilesystems (/dev is giving me problems since it isn't mounted), so I can run chroot and ( build / install ) a new ( kernel / system ) with little problem? - -Or can I specify some extra variables to make in the ( build / install ) process to maybe get it to work outside of a chroot? Thanks, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs6voEnKyINQw/HARAhfEAKCJCKq+1+1oq7EYehvII9YK+42qIwCeNtio r12qb21KF2cV/pKcI8mB3fk= =Gdml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:40:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E6216A406 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79D9F13C448 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 60451 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2007 18:40:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=li0eTkQjjjLn7pHDH+NJFHeZbXgxckCzJ8wH/IRktR3oC8180oJY3ngEY9fBd011dmlVMWq9lXlc44tyy+EQsRS0jO9yVOlKEFixZbhNuh+u0xTYH3Ch6qzcLICo0JoVQBBxBCeZbg3JC0JKiQUtClA7p0OfhQPFH/prjVz8VfA=; X-YMail-OSG: NA_zg0UVM1k6JdxumPxsP48E82YxDgFCkIoy.6TvMTnDO8bM79jgyF_S9xgFWd15vDoLtJZi3g-- Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:40:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Gould To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <814956.58398.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:40:14 -0000 Background: The Olympus WS-310M digital voice recorder has a standard USB = interface and uses flash memory to store sound files. Unfortunately, this = device only records to WMA files. I was able to view the filesystem on my = MacMini without installing any software. I'm trying to mount it to my Free= BSD system so that I can use ffmpeg to convert the WMA files to a more univ= ersally readable format.=0A=0AProblem: I am having trouble mounting this d= evice in FreeBSD 6.2.=0A=0AHere is the related dmesg output:=0A=0A umas= s0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 3=0A = da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0=0A da0: Rem= ovable Direct Access SCSI-2 device =0A da0: 1.000MB/s transfers=0A = da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)=0A umass0: at uhu= b3 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected=0A (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device= =0A (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry=0A umass0: detach= ed=0A umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev 1.10/1.00= , addr 3=0A da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0=0A da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device =0A da0: 1.000MB/s tra= nsfers=0A da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C)=0A = =0AHere is the output from 'fdisk /dev/da0':=0A=0A ******* Working on d= evice /dev/da0 *******=0A parameters extracted from in-core disklabel a= re:=0A cylinders=3D125 heads=3D64 sectors/track=3D32 (2048 blks/cyl)=0A= =0A parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:=0A cylind= ers=3D125 heads=3D64 sectors/track=3D32 (2048 blks/cyl)=0A =0A Medi= a sector size is 2048=0A Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sec= tor 1=0A Information from DOS bootblock is:=0A The data for partiti= on 1 is:=0A sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>=3D 32MB))=0A start = 117, size 255885 (499 Meg), flag 80 (active)=0A beg: cyl 0/ hea= d 1/ sector 54;=0A end: cyl 499/ head 7/ sector 32=0A The d= ata for partition 2 is:=0A =0A The data for partition 3 is:= =0A =0A The data for partition 4 is:=0A =0A=0AH= ere is the output from 'ls /dev/da0*':=0A=0A /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1= =0A=0AHere is the output of my various attempts at mounting this device as = root:=0A=0Aattempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0 /mnt/ws310=0Aresult: m= ount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument=0A=0Aattempt: mount -tmsdos -orw = /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310=0A=0Aresult: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid a= rgument=0A=0A=0AAttempts with '-oro' instead of '-orw' had similar results.= =0A=0AWhat am I doing wrong?=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0AAndrew Gould=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:44:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C48B16A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6866113C45A for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LIicUC015115 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:44:39 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.102] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LIicaW007607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:44:38 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <814956.58398.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <814956.58398.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <13184849-6763-420B-A920-7E1309E15383@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:44:42 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.103433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_25 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:44:39 -0000 On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Gould wrote: > Background: The Olympus WS-310M digital voice recorder has a > standard USB interface and uses flash memory to store sound files. > Unfortunately, this device only records to WMA files. I was able > to view the filesystem on my MacMini without installing any > software. I'm trying to mount it to my FreeBSD system so that I > can use ffmpeg to convert the WMA files to a more universally > readable format. > > Problem: I am having trouble mounting this device in FreeBSD 6.2. > > Here is the related dmesg output: > > umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev > 1.10/1.00, addr 3 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C) > umass0: at uhub3 port 2 (addr 3) disconnected > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry > umass0: detached > umass0: OLYMPUS CORPORATION DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER, rev > 1.10/1.00, addr 3 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 1.000MB/s transfers > da0: 500MB (256000 2048 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 125C) > > Here is the output from 'fdisk /dev/da0': > > ******* Working on device /dev/da0 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=125 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Media sector size is 2048 > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 1 is: > sysid 6 (0x06),(Primary 'big' DOS (>= 32MB)) > start 117, size 255885 (499 Meg), flag 80 (active) > beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 54; > end: cyl 499/ head 7/ sector 32 > The data for partition 2 is: > > The data for partition 3 is: > > The data for partition 4 is: > > > Here is the output from 'ls /dev/da0*': > > /dev/da0 /dev/da0s1 > > Here is the output of my various attempts at mounting this device > as root: > > attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0 /mnt/ws310 > result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument > > attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > result: mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > > Attempts with '-oro' instead of '-orw' had similar results. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, > > Andrew Gould Try /dev/da0s1. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:48:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6DA16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1864F13C459 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:48:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LIm2Yk030988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:48:02 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.102] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LIm2SR007776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:48:02 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <814956.58398.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <814956.58398.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:48:06 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.103433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:48:03 -0000 On Jan 21, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Andrew Gould wrote: > Nevermind.. didn't see the last line. What does your MacMini say when you mount the camera (Utilities -> Disk Utility or Utilities -> Terminal and type in mount and provide the output here)? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:50:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D3B16A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AC213C457 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (burningc@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.1]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0LId5Gi007136 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:39:05 GMT Received: (from burningc@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l0LIdRgq009961; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:39:27 GMT Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:39:27 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Becker To: DIST - FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: identifying hardware for kernel config purposes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:50:25 -0000 Hi - I am following along in the Handbook in my first attempt to compile a custom kernel ... and once again confronting the fact that I really know beans about hardware. So once I get to the "device" lines in my edited copy of the GENERIC config file I start to get a little bit lost. I know enough to look through /var/run/dmesg.boot, and many devices make themselves obvious (a DVD-ROM drive is a DVD-ROM drive is a ...) but how do I identify my motherboard, for example, so I know which lines to comment out (or conversely, leave in) in the kernel config file? If there is a good overall guide to info like this, I'd appreciate it if someone would point it out to me. :^) I also get lost in the alphabet soup of ATA, PCI, SCSI and so on. Thanks in advance for any guidance. I didn't want to attach my whole dmesg.boot file but will do so if that will help. Best, Glenn +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 18:59:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697A316A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from public.aci.on.ca (aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE113C428 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from (invalid client hostname: host address literal does not match remote client address)[127.0.0.1] (xtreme-156-171.dyn.aci.on.ca[69.17.156.171] port=2625) by public.aci.on.ca([205.207.148.252] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (2933 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:17 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2006-Feb-21) Message-ID: <45B3B811.4010704@qwirky.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:29 -0500 From: Jeff Royle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DIST - FreeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0704-0, 18/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: identifying hardware for kernel config purposes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@qwirky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:59:25 -0000 Glenn Becker wrote: > > Hi - > > I am following along in the Handbook in my first attempt to compile a > custom kernel ... and once again confronting the fact that I really know > beans about hardware. So once I get to the "device" lines in my edited > copy of the GENERIC config file I start to get a little bit lost. > > I know enough to look through /var/run/dmesg.boot, and many devices make > themselves obvious (a DVD-ROM drive is a DVD-ROM drive is a ...) but how > do I identify my motherboard, for example, so I know which lines to > comment out (or conversely, leave in) in the kernel config file? There are a couple places that have good comments on what each device is. GENERIC kernel itself is very descriptive, for example for your keyboard: --- snip --- # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse --- end sip --- Also read over NOTES it has a lot of architecture specific notes. You should also read over /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES for even more kernel options. > If there is a good overall guide to info like this, I'd appreciate it if > someone would point it out to me. :^) I also get lost in the alphabet > soup of ATA, PCI, SCSI and so on. You will need to do some reading into these devices in some cases if you are planing of customizing the kernel. dmesg will show you everything the system detects, even if it doesn't have a driver. It is upto you from that point to figure out what device driver (if there is one) your kernel is missing for the hardware and add it. > Thanks in advance for any guidance. I didn't want to attach my whole > dmesg.boot file but will do so if that will help. > > Best, > > Glenn > Oh and another piece of advice, read up in the handbook on recovering from a kernel that will not boot. Important to know when doing recompiles :) Cheers, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 19:09:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6015216A405 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF7F13C45B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (burningc@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.1]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0LJ9Nmw028660 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:23 GMT Received: (from burningc@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l0LJ9kBV017535; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:46 GMT Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Becker To: DIST - FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: general question re: performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:09:30 -0000 All - One of the reasons I jumped into trying a kernel configuration/compile is that I have been noticing performance issues with STABLE. (if you are reading and want to skip the following explanatory verbiage the questions are: how do I profile applications to figure out where the performance bottleneck is? and can these be addressed by compiling a custom kernel?) =>explanatory verbiage I'm running 6.2 on an old but not ancient Dell laptop, PIII 1000MHz, which now has seven operating systems on it. I have noticed recently that the graphics-heavy planetarium program Stellarium -- which runs great on my Debian GNU/Linux system -- barely creaks along on FreeBSD and is basically unusable. This is NOT FreeBSD bashing ... it's more that I feel as though 1) something may have changed since I last used the system much and/or 2) I am doing something stupid. I am actually accustomed to FreeBSD being lighter and faster than the Linuxes, so it especially surprised me. In my quest to get my ports up to speed I have noticed some gugundous compilation times, too ... when I had FreeBSD running on a certifiably ancient Pentium laptop I got used to letting make buildworld run overnight ... but at the moment I am looking at the make of gfortran some hours after I kicked it off. So ... I would like to know how to profile applications (like Stellarium) to see where the bottlenecks are and then know more about how to fix them. Is it generally accepted that a custom kernel with all the fat trimmed will help? Thanks in advance, Glenn +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:01:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CEB16A408 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23C13C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kelly.terry.jones@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1075706wxc for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:01:57 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fLFdKUV0BNzJ1HB3zdgJE+t5dUancRJQE8tlzzG3XtzEWzYO12kxlmzllwFAKe3HJ7+yrRXgP1nEjYrUnHmQvMMGMWf/podu0q7a0YGx56Cjw85dlK84ixQAiyGeV9Q0pl/7IWDqijUAcxFQM89lOtQk+nWpaxZ3IRzMrTveR1o= Received: by 10.90.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr5351653agz.1169409716991; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:01:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.53.19 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:01:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <26face530701211201j6dbfb184jfa158c8b6fddc114@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:01:56 -0700 From: "Kelly Jones" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Single command that outputs "system status"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:01:57 -0000 It's easy to write a shell script that dumps/mails the output of several "status" commands (eg, "df -k", "crontab -l", "ps -aux -www", "top -n -d 1 infinity", "w -d", "mailq -v", "netstat -a", "vmstat", etc) every hour, but I'm wondering if I'm re-inventing the wheel. Is there a FreeBSD command that reports "system status", either an existing shell script that does the above, or something that talks to the kernel at a lower level and reports all relevant values? I know about /etc/periodic/*/*status*, but this seems both excessive in places (I don't really need rejected email info, for example) and incomplete (I don't think it gives me all the information the commands above do). I also know about mrtg, but that seems more geared toward graphing and storing historical information and seems limited as well. I realize this question is ambiguous. I guess what I'm really asking is: is there a FreeBSD tool *designed* to report system status on a regular basis, that I could use as the basis of an hourly reporting system, even if I had to add/tweak some stuff myself. -- We're just a Bunch Of Regular Guys, a collective group that's trying to understand and assimilate technology. We feel that resistance to new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:21:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C86516A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265FA13C465 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so806384uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:21:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=AMfMI/TX+4IFI/sbpgTbWvIhSxIvQRuEGB6UgbjagOkdBMbb+mB72UIiRP1Mz4clCMYSBJ/jtUrwWmwKluFySkkbaq2KXme39LBMS/+mADjMYpySoOZXPmqLYFYgS0Py8UfyS3QDfgvFXzs3V2OB6yBT4CBR1rOHI/53CfdloC4= Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr5126932bud.1169410863781; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:21:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90701211221s3cfcbf5cqeeb9ae938f175b3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:21:03 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ab466e36b14ac461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: portsnap fetch metadata corrupted on amd64 - previous threads researched, do not fix issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:21:06 -0000 aire# portsnap fetch Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... using portsnap2.FreeBSD.org Fetching snapshot tag... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. Updating from Sat Jan 20 17:19:42 MST 2007 to Sun Jan 21 12:49:55 MST 2007. Fetching 4 metadata patches. done. Applying metadata patches... done. Fetching 4 metadata files... /usr/sbin/portsnap: cannot open e4aab25eac822125c5d063501a381b8bb683a680cde58bb107b053c35a6194e2.gz: No such file or directory metadata is corrupt. aire# Anyone help? I noticed several earlier threads on this subject, several seemed to experience this problem only on amd64 (my platform) I'm on 6.1-stable It is a 2-week old install, and I have always got this problem. My i386 laptops on 6.1-stable fetch fine. If I delete all files in /var/db/portsnap, it sucessfully downloads the 45MB file again, then goes right back to this problem - could it be due to the fact that 6.1 is now not the latest stable version? Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:25:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551A816A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from netmusician.org (netmusician.org [216.9.132.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EC613C45B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@netmusician.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379827E8E7; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:25:55 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at netmusician.org Received: from netmusician.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (netmusician.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZwUxqClLssxQ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (74-130-30-11.dhcp.insightbb.com [74.130.30.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by netmusician.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3374F7E8BF; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:25:54 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <6662981E-ED16-4DE7-9FCE-73289C3C0A5F@netmusician.org> References: <92462216-9556-4AED-B10F-B751ED67A1DB@netmusician.org> <45B23B2E.1040108@joeholden.co.uk> <6662981E-ED16-4DE7-9FCE-73289C3C0A5F@netmusician.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <36FFBCD7-1C96-413C-83B9-2E4B673A6218@netmusician.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:26:07 -0500 To: Joe Holden , freebsd-questions Questions X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: Subject: Re: apache exiting on signal 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:25:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I've done some Googling and it does appear as if this could be the source of this problem... This page in particular suggests that: http://www.pingle.org/2006/10/18/php-crashes-extensions/ However, I've tried all sorts of combinations with my extension set and haven't found an order which rids me of this problem. Does anybody have any general suggestions for coming up with troubleshooting strategies? As of know, I don't know which extensions to focus on, and whether to focus on putting them towards the beginning or end of the list, so I'm sort of grasping at straws here. Any suggestions? Would doing a portupgrade -fr php4 straighten things out perhaps by building and reinstalling the extensions in the correct order? Thanks in advance! On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Joe Auty wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Any suggestions where I might start first in tweaking this file? > > # cat /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini > extension=gettext.so > extension=mcrypt.so > extension=ftp.so > extension=session.so > extension=posix.so > extension=xml.so > extension=ctype.so > extension=readline.so > extension=openssl.so > extension=pcre.so > extension=imap.so > extension=mhash.so > extension=overload.so > extension=mysql.so > extension=zlib.so > extension=tokenizer.so > extension=iconv.so > extension=bz2.so > extension=rrdtool.so > extension=gd.so > extension=mbstring.so > extension=pdf.so > extension=snmp.so > > > On Jan 20, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Joe Holden wrote: > >> Joe Auty wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> Just FYI, disabling eAccelerator hasn't rid me of this problem. I >>> am using PHP as an Apache module. >>> I might look at using Fast CGI, or else simply ignore this >>> problem. Is there a list somewhere of PHP apps that don't work >>> with Fast CGI, or will I have to research this myself? >> As far as I recall, it was something to do with the order of >> extensions in extensions.ini. >> >> HTH, >> Joe >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFFslu5CgdfeCwsL5ERAlhHAJ4y05L1C2P95CQ2m1nitu5mVCkSdACfdave > 7M/JvAv6qlKBwJBtbbnA0h4= > =zarN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFs8xfCgdfeCwsL5ERAkwZAKCdtdSMEp0SgF+hm1RaBt/SytygwACgga80 KP5/5mgeSdGH4Ni+6ZdzLNE= =Tm4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:45:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3129B16A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B855713C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE21B7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.27.127]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E820B604033 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:45:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id EB0D515213; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:45:03 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:45:03 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 47 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169412303 55755 192.168.100.11 (21 Jan 2007 20:45:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:07 -0000 Hi folkes! Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? Background: I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0a 501M 72M 389M 16% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/da0d 1.9G 102K 1.8G 0% /tmp /dev/da1f 21G 2.9G 17G 15% /usr /dev/da0h 6.8G 742M 5.5G 12% /usr/obj /dev/da0e 4.8G 71M 4.4G 2% /var /dev/mirror/sec1.eli 9.8G 7.5M 9.0G 0% /usr/home /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0% /usr/home/christian What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. But the problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We are talking about SPARC64 here. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:45:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC0416A47F for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D171113C45B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so283994nfc for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:45:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=gz4/dgzWJ3DGCYTZN+d8gK5wqj7aGKWNGddw1XovHyYo6FcfrCy33xn7+4wBkDCKKEGAbDoToINJ1HAUX5Qe+31+LhIoqa/4GoBOvtK7Hgilru+7S3sXdLwJUIVGwrHAa5O+BhpYk3VeH8zN05Y+CBHc/4OAlj5LE2BI/1eqwXM= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr5163309buc.1169412319024; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:45:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90701211245s4941d626iefa9810403c87a96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:45:19 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Giorgos Keramidas" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3668efb5efdb65f9 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:21 -0000 I have another section to add to my previous post: At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a critical startup file, such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or similar, and reach the following upon reboot: "...." "Press enter for /bin/sh:" To recover: 0. press enter 1. cd /etc 2. cat fstab (if you don't know the partitions & disks to mount already) 3. mount /dev/adXs1Y /usr (gives you the edit command) (find X and Y in your fstab file) 4. mount /dev/adXs1Z / (gives you write acess to /etc) (find X and Z in your fstab) 5. edit blah ( i.e. rc.conf) to fix the typo 6. init 6 This has helped keep me from reaching for the install disk more than once, and it took a long time to figure out intuitively - think it might give the newbie's a 'leg-up' Steve On 1/17/07, Steve Franks wrote: > > > > On 1/16/07, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-01-16 15:47, Steve Franks wrote: > > > So, this is what I have so for. It was a bit late at night, so I appologise > > > if my tone is a bit silly at times...where do we go from here? Steve > > > > [snip nicely written stuff about freezes during installation and first > > post install steps] > > > > Fantastic! This looks like something that would fit quite nicely with > > the section ``Installing FreeBSD > Troubleshooting'', in the Handbook. > > > > Do you mind if I integrate this with the section? Does it look like the > > right place for you to write this stuff? Will you be able to review it > > and let me know if it looks ok? > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > You can read the current Handbook section at: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-trouble.html > > > Hmmm. Yes, I don't think the current page provides much actual help for newbies. Can we make sure to put links to all the appropriate man pages ( i.e. device.hints) in my text when we insert it? I've found the man online to be way more useful than I expected for people who are willing to read. We also could use some driver gurus to make my list of things to disable, and things to *not* disable both longer and correct - I admit I wrote that on my windows box, because my laptop bios disables the system (on purpose) when you put a non-compaq bsd-friendly network card in it. Go big brother. This is why I want to get the whole world to run *nix. > > > > Regards, > > Giorgos > > > > It occurs to me that a new option on the boot menu of the .iso installer that opens a version of this page in links or equiv might be most useful for newbies (I'm at work, so I can't check if it's there already). It might be useful to point to that doc if the .iso installer is started in safemode as well. > > Steve > > > -- > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 20:54:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B487816A404 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:54:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2953013C478 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:54:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from speedtoys.racing@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so812198uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:54:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RDkLuea8TAExqH+xc6NbLvcM0qI0Lbb/PDx/lVIO8yXiNc4Ozw0M1ujM5DcMLre4IRcVgGmLVbIneP2xeHTjlL2YJ9rv1+DeyTtMlPKYgMwydF2xEj4RAdGncaTShvf7LR1Icd48wPf56mL5rtMBsnjtm44MGDfI4okErT2aE2U= Received: by 10.82.153.5 with SMTP id a5mr5202913bue.1169412880587; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.141.18 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:54:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:54:40 -0900 From: "Jeff Mohler" To: "Christian Baer" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:54:42 -0000 Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance issue..but..its one spindle. / works. ? If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from back in the day..im willing to learn. On 1/21/07, Christian Baer wrote: > Hi folkes! > > Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? > > Background: > > I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with > any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on > it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted > on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two > mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted > on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second > swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in > words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0a 501M 72M 389M 16% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/da0d 1.9G 102K 1.8G 0% /tmp > /dev/da1f 21G 2.9G 17G 15% /usr > /dev/da0h 6.8G 742M 5.5G 12% /usr/obj > /dev/da0e 4.8G 71M 4.4G 2% /var > /dev/mirror/sec1.eli 9.8G 7.5M 9.0G 0% /usr/home > /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0% /usr/home/christian > > What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 > gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted > partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free > space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more > than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / > any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. > > Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be > schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was > thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea > at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive > than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. > > But the > problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out > of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had > one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation > before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We > are talking about SPARC64 here. > > Regards > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:05:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BC116A408 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsds+questions@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (lamaiziere.net [213.41.172.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CE013C4A6 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsds+questions@davenulle.org) Received: from [192.168.0.59] (unknown [192.168.0.59]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656F1A6CCC for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:05:03 +0100 (CET) From: Patrick =?iso-8859-1?q?Lamaizi=E8re?= Organization: >/dave/nulle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:05:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701212205.02550.patfbsds+questions@davenulle.org> Subject: Re: general question re: performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:05:07 -0000 Glenn Becker : > I'm running 6.2 on an old but not ancient Dell laptop, PIII 1000MHz, > which now has seven operating systems on it. I have noticed recently that > the graphics-heavy planetarium program Stellarium -- which runs great on > my Debian GNU/Linux system -- barely creaks along on FreeBSD and is > basically unusable. You need "direct rendering" to be enabled from Xorg. Check it with glxinfo $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes <=== must be yes What is your graphics card ? > Is it generally accepted that a custom kernel with all the fat > trimmed will help? No. (stellarium is very nice!) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:25:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480B016A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2415513C44C for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLPrRK029025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:25:53 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLPrvB007649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:25:53 -0800 Message-ID: <45B3DA6B.60300@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:26:03 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <73117.42440.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <73117.42440.qm@web35302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.131432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:25:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gould wrote: > > The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes the device as > soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way. When I try to mount it while > it's mounted, I get: > > mount_msdos /dev/disk1s1: resource busy > > When I "get_info" on the drive, it reports a DOS_16 partition with a > MS_DOS_12 file system. I didn't mean to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options were (that can be found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the "get_info" portion that you provided gave me the information that mount could have provided, most likely. > I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD system to ensure that > mount_msdos was working properly. Ok. Do you have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs9prEnKyINQw/HARAtiwAJ4tJfdiWRRdnsjDWVVgZ/0C+LrPmACfUCHQ gb7sQEeMJ1TOOWVJ0QqD+uE= =QnLK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:44:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF50716A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7628213C455 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 76871 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2007 21:44:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=4qlxGNnREQAcl+MvwdhIJ2bCHuH3ZUF8+Fgwhj35+w8pJPeLksPDIp29JXs9v3/WEqxHtWeoLlxk+8f8GEEJMsOtkjlsaC5zWuy1PpT7gty3sRUQ+LbtVBZ4b1N34IdE2YFma+DbiqdqTLhJ3hEt5P/lrYNqwA3sHLH01gNNogs=; X-YMail-OSG: KbD0sxYVM1lmk.3R.WaSP2tTJ8xUzCf1wnIpmMS_psp_C.lwe5bZ1319EdSGgbBAri2YYXGHKXULulSkC8oTYz.T7FCaDHs.exghehkcp_.S_4MDeHn_K.QywvYwYTLC340XBNKesLngee1NhHQ.Q7hAEkeJeTBm Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:44:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Gould To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <708263.74156.qm@web35304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:44:11 -0000 ----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Garrett Cooper =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:= 26:03 PM=0ASubject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder=0A= =0A-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0AHash: SHA1=0A=0AAndrew Gould wrote:= =0A>=0A> The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes th= e device as =0A> soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way. When I= try to mount it while =0A> it's mounted, I get:=0A> =0A> mount_msdos = /dev/disk1s1: resource busy=0A>=0A> When I "get_info" on the drive, it repo= rts a DOS_16 partition with a =0A> MS_DOS_12 file system.=0A=0AI didn't mea= n to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options=0Awere (that can b= e found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the=0A"get_info" portio= n that you provided gave me the information that mount=0Acould have provide= d, most likely.=0A=0A> I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD sy= stem to ensure that =0A> mount_msdos was working properly.=0A=0AOk. Do you = have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel?=0A=0A- -Garrett=0A-----BEGIN PGP= SIGNATURE-----=0AVersion: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD)=0AComment: Using GnuPG wi= th Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org=0A=0AiD8DBQFFs9prEnKyINQw/HARAtiwAJ= 4tJfdiWRRdnsjDWVVgZ/0C+LrPmACfUCHQ=0Agb7sQEeMJ1TOOWVJ0QqD+uE=3D=0A=3DQnLK= =0A-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----=0A=0AI do not have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in= the kernel. I'm recompiling now.=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0AAndrew=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:53:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1014C16A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF97513C459 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:53:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLrAGj019563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:53:10 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLr9vs001466 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:53:10 -0800 Message-ID: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:53:20 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.133933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:53:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Mohler wrote: > Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one > spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance > issue..but..its one spindle. > > / works. > > ? > > If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we > only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from > back in the day..im willing to learn. > > > > On 1/21/07, Christian Baer wrote: >> Hi folkes! >> >> Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? >> >> Background: >> >> I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with >> any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on >> it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted >> on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two >> mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted >> on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second >> swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in >> words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: >> >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on >> /dev/da0a 501M 72M 389M 16% / >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev >> /dev/da0d 1.9G 102K 1.8G 0% /tmp >> /dev/da1f 21G 2.9G 17G 15% /usr >> /dev/da0h 6.8G 742M 5.5G 12% /usr/obj >> /dev/da0e 4.8G 71M 4.4G 2% /var >> /dev/mirror/sec1.eli 9.8G 7.5M 9.0G 0% /usr/home >> /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0% >> /usr/home/christian >> >> What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 >> gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted >> partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free >> space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more >> than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / >> any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. >> >> Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be >> schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was >> thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea >> at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive >> than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. >> >> But the >> problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out >> of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had >> one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation >> before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We >> are talking about SPARC64 here. >> >> Regards >> Chris One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech definition but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems such that if one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that needs to write to "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of "/var" can bring down entire systems and infrastructures (happened before where I was working as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space on /var). Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the older guard on the list know why. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs+DQEnKyINQw/HARAs9WAJ4mCGtm9f5VvcMEG9GcavMaeTlyGgCfd8nI GpToHvhZ924oeMXhc70KlAc= =6Bv2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:57:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE0116A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595EC13C4D1 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1H8kfy-0005uy-I4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:56:34 +0100 Received: from 89-172-46-31.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.46.31]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:56:34 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-46-31.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:56:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:55:37 +0100 Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF1ADB45ED01B86D3F37091D5" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-46-31.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:57:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF1ADB45ED01B86D3F37091D5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Mohler wrote: > If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we > only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from > back in the day..im willing to learn. 1. if you only have one file system and something corrupts it, it's all gone. Some people even use the root file system read only so writes can't compromise it. 2. some applications perform better with certain parameters, such as block size and inode density 3. if you're going to encrypt your data, you might want to encrypt only your /home filesystem and gain on performance, since system files are public and easily recoverable 4. some security flags applicable on file systems, like nosuid, nosymfoll= ow 5. swap partition 6. the possibility of mixing RAID modes I'm sure there are more... --------------enigF1ADB45ED01B86D3F37091D5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs+FZldnAQVacBcgRAqePAJ9pxdo2B5OFp3iHrdQuOoRqmqKwAACguLge AoyH8t5nODUFifF0mh62drQ= =9Qgy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF1ADB45ED01B86D3F37091D5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:58:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69DB16A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C7213C467 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLw7NO018473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:58:08 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLw7C7009199 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:58:07 -0800 Message-ID: <45B3E1FA.80301@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:58:18 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.134432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:58:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Christian Baer wrote: > Hi folkes! > > Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? > > Background: > > I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with > any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on > it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted > on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two > mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted > on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second > swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in > words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0a 501M 72M 389M 16% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/da0d 1.9G 102K 1.8G 0% /tmp > /dev/da1f 21G 2.9G 17G 15% /usr > /dev/da0h 6.8G 742M 5.5G 12% /usr/obj > /dev/da0e 4.8G 71M 4.4G 2% /var > /dev/mirror/sec1.eli 9.8G 7.5M 9.0G 0% /usr/home > /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0% /usr/home/christian > > What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 > gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted > partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free > space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more > than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / > any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. > > Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be > schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was > thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea > at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive > than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. > > But the > problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out > of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had > one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation > before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We > are talking about SPARC64 here. > > Regards > Chris Why create so many partitions? You can use slices to your benefit and you wouldn't use up your allocatable partitions on the disk's MBR. Example: [gcooper@sprsd ~]$ df -h | grep ad0 /dev/ad0s1a 739M 40M 639M 6% / /dev/ad0s2d 62G 56G 1.1G 98% /store/ad0 /dev/ad0s1d 1.9G 1.1M 1.8G 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1e 3.9G 3.2G 377M 90% /usr /dev/ad0s1f 1.9G 143M 1.6G 8% /var Note that all that I used was 1 partition and to supplement that I used 5 slices. The only thing given my example that I suggest is that you make /usr large than what I made it; the size I made it's really too small for the /usr slice.. Arg. Cheers, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs+H6EnKyINQw/HARAt5xAJ0YbO8j/wQ7MWBP7q9DBMh3e1OKTgCdE5Fb AezrppfVz5D+7aj28ZU/Oyk= =D/KD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 21:59:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8E616A406 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A22A13C47E for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:59:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLxECH014145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:14 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0LLxDgI009274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:14 -0800 Message-ID: <45B3E23D.8020408@u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:59:25 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B3ABE8.1050403@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <45B3ABE8.1050403@u.washington.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.134432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Rebuilding kernel / world on another disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:59:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Ok, I kind of worked myself into a corner by only bringing a USB > keyboard and accidentally making logins impossible via the network (bad > firewall setup with IPFilter). > > Basically I have a disk with FreeBSD 7-CURRENT on it and I have a > working machine with FreeBSD 6.2 on it, and I need to build a kernel for > the FreeBSD 7-CURRENT machine so I can get it back up and running with > USB keyboard support and disable IPFilter. > > -Is there a means to properly mount psuedofilesystems (/dev is giving me > problems since it isn't mounted), so I can run chroot and ( build / > install ) a new ( kernel / system ) with little problem? > > -Or can I specify some extra variables to make in the ( build / install > ) process to maybe get it to work outside of a chroot? > > Thanks, > -Garrett Figured out another way around this (modified firewall rules in 6.2 box), so an answer isn't critical anymore. However, knowing it would be nice. Thanks, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFs+I9EnKyINQw/HARAoDpAJ0S8I6QDhLHywsNlIN1n0PNurNoFwCfVEQO In4oDtGcwGg4tlIf6rgSxw4= =Ac9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 22:17:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E2B16A404 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A9113C467 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so824976uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=glVD/8teQlLeBKNImNCsA95aKYNPTNMs/WS5EHAw7nTmm1kAOalbiQKZJMs2Gr9/GM1C12FSkxZZgEY9DjpnKs59rw+tDdhbOhVtNCKveQdVJX9xJx5AJ0136WKoT5JeEPEZP8AawkKlG1hLTgO4sM+7gdETXkB5tCKo5MRvLuU= Received: by 10.82.184.2 with SMTP id h2mr5289999buf.1169417867116; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.4 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:17:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:17:47 -0600 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Garrett Cooper" In-Reply-To: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:17:49 -0000 On 21/01/07, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Jeff Mohler wrote: > > On 1/21/07, Christian Baer wrote: > >> problem is that I can't allocate another partition > > One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech definition > but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems such that if > one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that needs to write to > "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of "/var" can bring down > entire systems and infrastructures (happened before where I was working > as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space on /var). Run-away programs certainly are a reason. Also (and more so with 500G+ drives) only root must fsck before the system is brought up, so you can get the system to a (somewhat) useable state more quickly than if you had to fsck the whole lot at one go. On systems that have myriads of arbitrarily sized files which grow and shrink (larger MUDs are subject to this, I know, probably many other games with local user files as well) you can defrag with a simple tar jcf, rm -r, tar jxf. Enforcement of certain security rules (noexec, nosuid) is simpler and easier when the directories are seperated onto their own filesystems. NFS is more straightforward as well. Hard drives rarely fail catastrophically, and moving the affected information may be eased (or at least I have found it so) by careful partitioning. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 22:22:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DBB16A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C2513C45E for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so825785uge for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:22:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sadUfutU7N8BBOI8fowF4aiqrfnKtmwxzj5eMXiY+CQqCjnxXA+zjyg6GP33D/tu0PXkM+QzMcHCKze0R0ekOAVTdpo/28jVcQHjIBCH2C/x/rmEd79/AQ1uhGUykYE9HaTWfQq2r7iaeHUZtlMb4sfbzB2WWRvfI6nqp00n36A= Received: by 10.67.22.7 with SMTP id z7mr528583ugi.1169418173694; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.110.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x26sm4860372ugc.2007.01.21.14.22.52; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:22:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B3E864.2050603@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:25:40 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B254FC.8050908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <45B254FC.8050908@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cant load OpenGL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:22:55 -0000 This may help: The emphasis is on my vidcard, it's an ATI Radeon 9600. Last official ATI video card support for FreeBSD was the 9400 series drivers. I've heard about some reverse engineered drivers from Linux. Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > AFAIK, you get that with Xorg 7.x. 6.2-RELEASE uses Xorg 7.1 no? I'm pretty sure I have something not installed or not configured. What is it? Should I post my xorgconfig file? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 22:26:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5528C16A507 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB43B13C44B for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FDC1F4422 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:57:33 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10042) with ESMTP id QFVx75SlsMlV for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (ool-4353640b.dyn.optonline.net [67.83.100.11]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5041F4420 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:57:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B3E1B2.9070008@wingfoot.org> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:57:06 -0500 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Looking to upgrade my hardware and run 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:26:17 -0000 Since I tend to build my own boxes, I'd like to make sure my choice of CPU/MB is good fro FBSD before I buy :-) I'm looking at an AMD X2 64 5400 and an Abit AN9 32X. The AN9 has: NVIDIA nForce SPP 190/nForce 590 SLI MCP Dual NV Gigabit LAN 6x SATA 3gb/s ports with RAID 0/1/0+1/5 JBOD support (plus 2x SATA ports non-RAID) I know that NVIDIA chipsets (at least used to) require separate downloads of the chipset drivers. Is this still the case? I've been using Abit MBs for years now, but I'm not necessarily tied to them, if there are better suggestions from the list. So anywho.. I'd appreciate any advice the list can provide. I'm a huge fan of FBSD, and have been using it consistently since 2000 now. :) Thanks in advance, everyone! Best, --Glenn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 22:27:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A043516A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CA913C471 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so303295nfc for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:27:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LvQv/lg0mcMs48KLUcc4uq4DUIJKd1aLHUuHnxWgVT55QCgsPRXEOAEANavjdzT1Hdgw7g16j404f9klOoFu7g0ryueVfK2aPN/0gI9slwpERSysqLyrFusqz4ZyExpAfz1PdvjUztfT/6sEykHnTq76CNujxbUVbb1oNGyg/aA= Received: by 10.82.182.8 with SMTP id e8mr3584178buf.1169418421493; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:27:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:27:01 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "deeptech71@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: <45B3E864.2050603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B254FC.8050908@gmail.com> <45B3E864.2050603@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ffcbe5df4aa8f321 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant load OpenGL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:27:03 -0000 On 1/22/07, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > This may help: > > The emphasis is on my vidcard, it's an ATI Radeon 9600. Last official ATI > video card support for FreeBSD was the 9400 series drivers. I've heard about > some reverse engineered drivers from Linux. > Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > > AFAIK, you get that with Xorg 7.x. > > 6.2-RELEASE uses Xorg 7.1 no? I'm pretty sure I have something not installed > or not configured. What is it? Should I post my xorgconfig file? "pkg_info -Ex xorg" will show you versions of xorg apps installed. At the moment you probably have 6.9. Xorg 7.2 will be committed to the ports tree any time soon. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 22:32:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48B716A400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 584AE13C471 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25925 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jan 2007 22:32:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vkt682ybjCrAwEoFOEf7XzjgMWkjGFFUnK+MzBE7boqSW5ysLtHhP+uS2wL4PgxAPe0kHt/m8rPOIHercOVZRac1XB1EcMTO+zhglYwwKkj4DroXFvVmi9HTMW4XfRwn04NyfGQlF4djvccD+MdOT4+NJ4QhSWIatdZ1V4ch8lo=; X-YMail-OSG: ccwC5WQVM1lzMiqSoTfT0DxX5GqHb7xmwHXgDmTg3rhIe2jbtDR2lDIJrlR4gMuZ4ob2LllL5Fdckdq.h2mWOhCDe.g1W8cB2fj2Q0JQn6ZcHbD_vz.GKuePxaFQ1PaAQ_Go5T0qzreZwMPUvyiHURGq5oprgFl. Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:32:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:32:36 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Gould To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:32:37 -0000 ----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Garrett Cooper =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:= 26:03 PM=0ASubject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder=0A= =0A-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0AHash: SHA1=0A=0AAndrew Gould wrote:= =0A>=0A> The MacMini mounts the drive as soon as it sees it, and deletes th= e device as =0A> soon as I unmount it; so I can't test it that way. When I= try to mount it while =0A> it's mounted, I get:=0A> =0A> mount_msdos = /dev/disk1s1: resource busy=0A>=0A> When I "get_info" on the drive, it repo= rts a DOS_16 partition with a =0A> MS_DOS_12 file system.=0A=0AI didn't mea= n to mount the drive, just to see what the mount options=0Awere (that can b= e found via strictly the "mount" command). However, the=0A"get_info" portio= n that you provided gave me the information that mount=0Acould have provide= d, most likely.=0A=0A> I successfully mounted a DOS floppy on my FreeBSD sy= stem to ensure that =0A> mount_msdos was working properly.=0A=0AOk. Do you = have MSDOSFS_LARGE compiled in the kernel?=0A=0A- -Garrett=0A-----BEGIN PGP= SIGNATURE-----=0AVersion: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD)=0AComment: Using GnuPG wi= th Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org=0A=0AiD8DBQFFs9prEnKyINQw/HARAtiwAJ= 4tJfdiWRRdnsjDWVVgZ/0C+LrPmACfUCHQ=0Agb7sQEeMJ1TOOWVJ0QqD+uE=3D=0A=3DQnLK= =0A-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----=0A=0AAdding MSDOSFS_LARGE to the kernel didn= 't help.=0A=0AI mounted the voice recorder successfully on Suse Enterprise = Desktop 10. =0AUpon mounting, however, the following 10 lines similar to t= he one below (only the number is changed) are =0Aadded to dmesg:=0A=0A = Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 255884=0A=0AThis did not pre= vent Suse from mounting and reading the flash drive.=0A=0AI don't feel comf= ortable using FreeBSD or Linux to reformat the device because =0Awhen I hav= e the drive do the reformatting, it also creates several files.=0A=0AAndrew= =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 23:28:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A355516A401 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail42.e.nsc.no (mail42.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2896C13C441 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.102.100] (084202102100.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.102.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail42.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l0LNS6M6003606 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:28:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:27:10 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-nextmail-Metrics: mail42.nsc.no 10042; Body=0 Fuz1=0 Fuz2=0 Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:28:10 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > [snip] Honestly, Andrew. Please try to use a style where on or more > indicates quoting level. It is 100% foggy who wrote what in the parent message of this post. TIA. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 23:29:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D3A16A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7406A13C45A for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 21 Jan 2007 23:29:30 -0000 Received: from p54AD98F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO www2.gmx.net) [84.173.152.243] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 00:29:30 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14602519 Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.gmx.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l0LNTQli001067; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:29:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from apog@oak.pohoyda.family) Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id l0LNTQv9001064; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:29:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from apog) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:29:26 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200701212329.l0LNTQv9001064@oak.pohoyda.family> From: Alexander Pohoyda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Ben Smithurst Subject: fxtv in full screen mode problem solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:29:33 -0000 This mail is not a question, but a solution to the problem that fxtv application does not use the whole visible screen in full screen mode. The problem is that in full screen mode fxtv switches to the closest to 768x576 video mode, which is normally 800x600. Thus, all we have to do is to create the requested video mode in the X11 configuration file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config): Section "Monitor" ... Modeline "768x576" 35.71 768 800 928 960 576 587 593 605 ... EndSection ATTENTION: Use this modeline at your own risk. Tested to work in Xorg 6.8.2 on FreeBSD 5.4 -- Alexander Pohoyda PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 21 23:56:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650B016A402 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A6B13C442 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd3mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.24]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JC8007JFT35X980@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:54:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml7so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.151]) by pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JC800178T35BV21@pd3mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:54:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JC80090YT33A6G0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:54:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 7586 invoked from network); Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:54:36 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:54:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:54:36 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <9888aa630701210705r533a1085x9a06f26ee834d173@mail.gmail.com> To: eoghan Message-id: <45B3FD3C.8090501@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <9888aa630701210705r533a1085x9a06f26ee834d173@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061227) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:56:45 -0000 eoghan wrote: > Hi > I am trying to run the freebsd-update, so as root I do: > /usr/local/sbin/freebsd-update fetch > And I get: > Fetching public key... > fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/amd64/6.1/pub.key: Not Found Updates aren't being built for amd64 for the version of FreeBSD Update in the ports tree. If you upgrade to FreeBSD 6.2, you can use the version of FreeBSD Update which it contains (for which amd64 updates are being built). Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 00:08:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7572B16A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3375813C441 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2007 19:08:29 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id MUQ36341; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2007 19:08:26 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17844.85.335537.317957@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:07:49 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail: UCE(50) X-Junkmail-Status: score=50/50, host=mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=bulk(0), refid=str=0001.0A090203.45B3FE71.007E,ss=3,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.125/2006-10-10 Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:08:30 -0000 Garrett Cooper writes: > One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech > definition but the traditional definition, "to divide") > filesystems such that if one person fills up "/", it won't cause > a program that needs to write to "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which > in the case of "/var" can bring down entire systems and > infrastructures (happened before where I was working as IT when a > CUPS server ran out of space on /var). > Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the older > guard on the list know why. N) Dump - the preferred beckup method - works at the partition level. Sure, you can flag files and directories "nodump" using chflags ... but do you really want to manage that given modern disk sizes? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 00:46:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D712516A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E8513C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: (qmail 11374 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 00:19:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (fr0zen@sbcglobal.net@71.143.226.57 with plain) by smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 00:19:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: s1n1jOYVM1n9VYmi184.KlwL.3oX7cU0sRL0ISjDoGTemANtwvbhO3eNjuTFTLqV3TOfCpdR0mEarz1wy2PL_HLvYBsXzpjPk49L_fqBXuGZcV9szGRxgLqVP02kkEQR9VS4JM7UTnpbbhXXWgtJGpH5At7YCUlbXMmo81feWuGZOEaB3WHiJ9Kn88YZ Message-ID: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:19:56 -0600 From: Peter Pluta User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:46:27 -0000 I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every night at 5am (it's below). Shell script: #!/bin/sh . `dirname $0`/settings.inc destination=**.***.***.***::backup if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ $destination After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] Dmesg on the box only shows this: em0: promiscuous mode enabled em0: promiscuous mode disabled But that is probably pretty old. What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files. Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 00:48:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A7C16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A791E13C448 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (burningc@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.1]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0M0m7oc007939; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:07 GMT Received: (from burningc@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l0M0mUGY009958; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:30 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Becker To: Patrick =?iso-8859-1?q?Lamaizi=E8re?= In-Reply-To: <200701212205.02550.patfbsds+questions@davenulle.org> Message-ID: References: <200701212205.02550.patfbsds+questions@davenulle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: general question re: performance X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:18 -0000 Patrick - > You need "direct rendering" to be enabled from Xorg. > Check it with glxinfo > $ glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes <=== must be yes > > What is your graphics card ? It's an ATI Radeon Mobility with 16mb video memory. I got Stellarium to behave based on a previous post. Thanks. > (stellarium is very nice!) It IS. :^) +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 00:48:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF0A16A41A for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D172113C474 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 25595 invoked by uid 399); 22 Jan 2007 00:21:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 00:21:57 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 Message-ID: <45B4039E.2000100@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:21:50 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90701211245s4941d626iefa9810403c87a96@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90701211245s4941d626iefa9810403c87a96@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:48:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steve Franks wrote: > I have another section to add to my previous post: > > At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a > critical startup file, such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or > similar, and reach the following upon reboot: > > "...." > "Press enter for /bin/sh:" > > To recover: While it's always nice when someone takes an interest in improving our documentation, what you have below is missing some key ingredients. > 0. press enter > 1. cd /etc > 2. cat fstab (if you don't know the partitions & disks to mount already) It's very possible that cat won't be in your path when you do this, so you might have to say /bin/cat. Similarly throughout the rest of your post. More importantly, it's crucial to run at least 'fsck -p' before trying to mount anything. If the only things you'll be mounting are in fstab already, that's all you have to type. If you need to mount something that isn't in fstab, you'll have to specify it by device, such as 'fsck -p /dev/ad2s1e'. If the prune isn't enough, then you will have to do 'fsck -y /dev/' for anything that didn't come up clean. > 3. mount /dev/adXs1Y /usr (gives you the edit command) (find X and Y > in your fstab file) > 4. mount /dev/adXs1Z / (gives you write acess to /etc) (find X and Z > in your fstab) First, if the slices you're mounting are in your fstab, you don't have to specify the device name, just 'mount /' is enough. Second, you should always mount the / partition read/write before you try to mount anything else. Assuming that all your slices came up clean after fsck, it is probably simpler to do 'mount -a' (or 'mount -a -t nonfs' if you have NFS mounts in your fstab without the noauto flag) than to type them all out by hand. > 5. edit blah ( i.e. rc.conf) to fix the typo > 6. init 6 You're much better off to just type 'exit' when you're done fixing stuff. That will take you out of the subshell, and back into the normal rc startup process. Hope this helps, Doug - -- This .signature sanitized for your protection -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQFFtAOeyIakK9Wy8PsRAiiyAJ92/0/nYm7d952zEglKoDF0KOvcQQCfTS51 TwAQySkJy3SPd6vIZMNSXI8= =Ye1F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 01:04:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB5D16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C16D13C43E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 30798 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 01:04:55 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=thGoOIG08YDjSji2s+/XilyGPpDk88rd2HkwsyB56udxRFMK5pJlOzFTpAkfoJBU1iAMx1T2yqbCLwHOv/rYWilqoKtaUKmTkasfeLtsDzSMJ6TDqsIIQoq1OVcgWo9TJzD/m8+q4BxPim1OF/LzaX/CWckXJNgcMJ5+YEovi1A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@70.255.170.240 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 01:04:55 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: HDnYsXUVM1mJFGX1VPTpOUsVNj9TR0nQ5NfwLrF3rGKkrQ.f Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:03:55 -0600 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:04:58 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > Andrew Gould wrote: > > [snip] > this is from a previous message in the thread: >attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 try as root or su to root # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 01:07:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2360316A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx33.mail.ru (mx33.mail.ru [194.67.23.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D9513C478 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=14610 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H8net-000AB5-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:07:39 +0300 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:07:38 +0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: ghostscript device 'gdi' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:07:42 -0000 My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' option printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes. Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' for printing to it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 01:33:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C8816A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DD713C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pbowen@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.internal (unknown [10.202.2.149]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D378F9B0 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by out1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:07:15 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: QFOxPo00mq//xpQ7WbTzdPdEffMIFEs7U60Inbbgz/OD 1169428034 Received: from [10.50.41.131] (unknown [204.110.228.254]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EDABD98 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:07:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B40E08.6020606@fastmail.fm> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:06:16 -0600 From: Patrick Bowen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070114) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:33:29 -0000 I'm looking to replace the Realtek rtl8185 mini-PCI wireless NIC in my laptop, and I was wondering about what to replace it with. Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their chips with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of drivers, please. I believe that Ralink and Atmel are in that category, according to the googling I've been able to do. I'd like to support those manufacturers that support FreeBSD. Thanks in Advance, Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 01:45:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DD716A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E592F13C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 21 Jan 2007 20:45:34 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,218,1167627600"; d="scan'208"; a="393686378:sNHT86052152" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IDM77042; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with SMTP; 21 Jan 2007 20:45:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 91611 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 01:45:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 01:45:28 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 91608 invoked by uid 1000); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:28 -0000 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:45:28 -0500 From: Jason Morgan To: Patrick Bowen Message-ID: <20070122014528.GB87464@sentinelchicken.net> References: <45B40E08.6020606@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B40E08.6020606@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090201.45B41530.0070,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.125/2006-10-10 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:34 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:06:16PM -0600, Patrick Bowen wrote: > I'm looking to replace the Realtek rtl8185 mini-PCI wireless NIC in my > laptop, and I was wondering about what to replace it with. > > Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their chips > with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of drivers, > please. I believe that Ralink and Atmel are in that category, according > to the googling I've been able to do. > > I'd like to support those manufacturers that support FreeBSD. > > Thanks in Advance, > Patrick Check out: # man ath_hal I've been pretty happy with *built-in* ath(4)/ath_hal(4) NICs. I have no experience with PCMCIA (or whatever they are called) versions. Cheers, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 01:47:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807B716A404 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4479013C478 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgamsjager@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1141668wxc for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:47:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=p3dWRd6CDIoSJ3aDPWV0wUnlS30G5spPTOXfhwmQyeQ14auD17bPRMDyDNq5tZBUBeDKA2wbgnYn3iQY3pPJEgPzHqvfjntnb3vQ8uIKMdl12rhSpQZd+F8nozx/VJ/e9h7u6iv9rLPhKvq2Dbi2cHyR+J9g8aKQLvKy5ewXSqc= Received: by 10.70.115.17 with SMTP id n17mr9551792wxc.1169428911201; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.14.13 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:21:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <585602e10701211721r4a76184bjba8c4863a4149250@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:21:51 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Matthias_Gamsj=E4ger?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Harddisk seems to be gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:47:02 -0000 HI, I am a user of freebsd for couple of year now and had recently made a fresh install with 6.2. Everything worked as it always did but as i booted the system today it seems that the kernel couldnt find my harddisk. Strange thing is: - I get the bootloader (dual boot with windows) - windows works just fine - I can access all my files on the hd through the bootloader - the kernel boots of the harddisk and finds the (s)ata-controllers - it finds the cdrom attachet to the ata0 - it finds my sata disk but my first pata disk seems to be gone. The bootscript ends because there is no ad0 (dev isnt created so cant do manualy) I tried to boot 2 live-cdroms (freesbie and frenzy) with the same result. System: Nforce 4 motherboard AMD X2 4600+ 1GB ram GF 7900tgo PATA Maxtor hd (which is gone) SATA WD (works fine) Anyone got any idea whay might cause this? Thx Matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 02:16:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B572316A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sozler82@yahoo.com) Received: from web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D77813C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sozler82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 9136 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2007 02:16:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gcbCRrqYNa4RKBE/aT9mXgB4lV8hOO6MjlfBAKc7LEcr2BZX6F2RbRR00HZ5iHvyj8HRNW+Dipw5pC2gO45zYxXQPzygZ0c0WWmKOTBb7jFnRFvGexcYRtXH935wrM2bdMsxiokeHWZPmmQebSPYLc7LrO6bYusD9FFiRIv8msM=; X-YMail-OSG: IdVouw0VM1kPNXjTlCMwgzpUy7KuE3BcTyUej3FeTdZ9xL2HbZ2G6.Jbfa7m9Ghy.LNTp5.W6qtUrQPfwZ2y7EE0tdqreNs3vrbYywBmWLi4hQVhbaqceLyYOlSRbdxgjqQcqI4CkKMr_kadn62vhBQH Received: from [24.19.245.244] by web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:16:12 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: Serdar Ozler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <798234.8744.qm@web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:16:13 -0000 It turned out that DP965LT uses Marvell 88SE6101 controller for PATA, not a= JMicron one. So, that bug does not apply. Is there a workaround I could us= e for that one?=0A=0AThanks,=0ASerdar=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFr= om: Serdar Ozler =0ATo: josh.carroll@psualum.com=0ACc: = freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:26:54 P= M=0ASubject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem=0A=0A=0AYes, the motherboard is Intel = DP965LT (which uses P965) with a Core 2 Duo processor.=0A=0AThanks,=0ASerda= r=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Josh Carroll =0ATo: Serdar Ozler =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freeb= sd.org=0ASent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:55:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: ATAPI = CDROM Problem=0A=0A=0A> I am trying to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my new machin= e and have a problem. I boot using 6.2-disc1, but when I try to choose CD/D= VD as installation media, the installer says: "No CD/DVD drives found".=0A= =0AIs this by chance a newer Core 2 Duo system with a motherboard with an= =0AIntel p965 chipset? If so, I think this is a known bug. I know at=0Aleas= t one other person who was unable to install FreeBSD 6.2 on a p965=0Aboard.= The installer does not see the PATA hdd or the ATAPI CD device=0Aon the JM= icron controller.=0A=0AI'm not sure if it's related, but it sounds similar = to this PR I submitted here:=0A=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p= r=3D103602=0A=0AOthers might be able to offer workarounds for getting the i= nstaller to=0Awork (since my DVD drive works for normal things, just not AT= APICAM).=0A=0AJosh=0A_______________________________________________=0Afree= bsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/l= istinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-quest= ions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________________________= __________________________________________________=0ANeed a quick answer? 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Games.=0Ahttp://videogam= es.yahoo.com/platform?platform=3D120121 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 02:18:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DDC16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DBA13C468 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net (jn@c-68-59-28-54.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [68.59.28.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0M2IDcG021045; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:18:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701212118.12529.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: applecom@inbox.ru Subject: Re: ghostscript device 'gdi' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:18:14 -0000 On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:07, applecom@inbox.ru wrote: > My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it > generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' option > printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes. > Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' for > printing to it? I have a Lexmark E210, which is basically a rebranded Samsung ML-1210. I print to it using Cups and the foomatic scripts/filters and haven't had any problems. I know it uses gs with the gdi device on the back end. I just printed a test page at 300 dpi and it looks fine. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 02:49:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8C116A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (smtp-out.fcibroadband.com [64.119.104.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C3C13C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in1.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20DD1B1777 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with SMTP id 31467-07 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (host661461495e.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com [66.146.149.94]) by smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569131B182A for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:49:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B4262D.90402@bobmc.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:49:17 -0500 From: bobmc User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060615) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <45B40E08.6020606@fastmail.fm> In-Reply-To: <45B40E08.6020606@fastmail.fm> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:49:27 -0000 Patrick Bowen wrote: > Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their > chips with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of > drivers, please. I have two computers with VIA 6102 for ethernet. One is a EPIA Mini-itx and the CD included has a FreeBSD driver. One might expect the VIA driver to be better than the free offering from an engineering student but I can't tell that from looking at the code while not knowing the hardware. You can get specs from VIA by filling out a form and telling a good story. But it seems VIA thinks they are doing a favor. The point of this little tale is to question what "support" means. It looks like you can't ship the VIA driver with BSD because of restrictions in the source. I would only call it support if the ViA product pages included BSD along with Windows and Linux already listed as compatible OSes. And if they contributed quality drivers to the 'BSD distributions. It would be beneficial for VIA and BSD. Cheers, -BobMc- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 02:51:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143D016A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:51:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphi123@zebra.net) Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCE613C448 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphi123@zebra.net) Received: from [66.32.93.145] (helo=[192.168.1.100]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1H8oy9-0003Wp-5P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:31:37 -0500 From: Benjamin Sher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:31:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <798234.8744.qm@web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <798234.8744.qm@web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701212131.36490.delphi123@zebra.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 6d7a96d530d16c3b5e89bb4777695beb69025943178dce0bd15f9fe970f2cf7b0d0819bae0757197350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.32.93.145 Subject: PCBSD 6.2 -- How to Install Second CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:51:15 -0000 Dear friends: Just installed the first CD of PCBSD 6.2. I also downloaded the second CD. How do I install it, please? Thank you. Benjamin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:05:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FCB16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:05:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E13813C46A for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so355318nfc for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:05:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MvJW+ElqxAbmyITVyKcifryhAARFQcMdfgU5oeva1gFvKnymO/MlE6D5fS32b43MHVSuxJ2wqov9Lc0YkaN4bs10OYlwz2UfOU7imty1XUIyDzUetW6jjM6sqHV44Xxr0n5JrxW4HkjPZFHQO2/l7YZdl1giv1Jle75pW7RuAZg= Received: by 10.48.14.4 with SMTP id 4mr5962704nfn.1169433496688; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.156.15 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:38:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba0701211838i213354efr83fca4443b2d6c8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:38:16 +0100 From: J65nko To: "Kelly Jones" In-Reply-To: <26face530701211201j6dbfb184jfa158c8b6fddc114@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26face530701211201j6dbfb184jfa158c8b6fddc114@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Single command that outputs "system status"? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:05:36 -0000 On 1/21/07, Kelly Jones wrote: > It's easy to write a shell script that dumps/mails the output of > several "status" commands (eg, "df -k", "crontab -l", "ps -aux -www", > "top -n -d 1 infinity", "w -d", "mailq -v", "netstat -a", "vmstat", > etc) every hour, but I'm wondering if I'm re-inventing the wheel. > > Is there a FreeBSD command that reports "system status", either an > existing shell script that does the above, or something that talks to > the kernel at a lower level and reports all relevant values? > > I know about /etc/periodic/*/*status*, but this seems both excessive > in places (I don't really need rejected email info, for example) and > incomplete (I don't think it gives me all the information the commands > above do). > > I also know about mrtg, but that seems more geared toward graphing > and storing historical information and seems limited as well. > > I realize this question is ambiguous. I guess what I'm really asking > is: is there a FreeBSD tool *designed* to report system status on a > regular basis, that I could use as the basis of an hourly reporting > system, even if I had to add/tweak some stuff myself. > Although may be not exactly what you want http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31072 It could be a start ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:12:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA78916A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8582113C43E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwh2-1H8pbe3Wow-0004Vt; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:12:30 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A74AA6C4E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:11:19 +0800 (HKT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: questions@freebsd.org From: David Schulz Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:12:05 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 X-Provags-ID2: V01U2FsdGVkX18OgX3ZpSmPyd3mvF+KNiClkDa6t1FaDFjGHr3MoqQjX3ny3sM6jEdIM5TeBZsp7u9M1ofwjTM410pNz2BXrQEJoo0wLvIOzADz8syotMdlFQ== Cc: Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:12:33 -0000 Hello all, every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this Problem? Thanks a lot, David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:31:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A7C16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B865B13C448 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:31:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1H8ptu1YCM-0005DL; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:31:37 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C7EA6C1F; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:29:46 +0800 (HKT) In-Reply-To: <62460.209.254.223.2.1169435747.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <62460.209.254.223.2.1169435747.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9A22D208-C86A-47FC-8AF6-0D7C071213AE@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:30:38 +0800 To: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:31:39 -0000 Hey, sure, i can do a script which does the up-down when it cant ping the router or something, but to be honest i think that is not a production solution. cheap nic..maybe, some of the nics in question where onboard ones, which are not the best ones out there, but others, such as the 3COM 3c90b5 Fast Etherlink XL PCI, is that also a shitty one? I also have a tried a simple D-LINK and a Realtek one. It seems that under a certain condition FreeBSD just shuts down its Networking, and if thats true i wonder if that can be done remotely, that would not be cool. David On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Richard Lynch wrote: > Sounds like flaky/cheap network card to me... > [But I'm no expert] > > Perhaps, however, just doing a cron job every day to do the ifconfig > down/up would be a simple work-around. > > On Sun, January 21, 2007 9:12 pm, David Schulz wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, >> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet >> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no >> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am >> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even >> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The >> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 >> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using >> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the >> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with >> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with >> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. >> >> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this >> Problem? >> >> Thanks a lot, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- > Some people have a "gift" link here. > Know what I want? > I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. > http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch > Yeah, I get a buck. So? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:42:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FF516A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceo@l-i-e.com) Received: from o2.hostbaby.com (o2.hostbaby.com [67.139.134.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97D5A13C457 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceo@l-i-e.com) Received: (qmail 10647 invoked by uid 98); 22 Jan 2007 03:15:47 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.7/2474. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.072693 secs); 22 Jan 2007 03:15:47 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.072693 secs) Received: from localhost (HELO www.l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 03:15:47 -0000 Received: from 209.254.223.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:15:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <62460.209.254.223.2.1169435747.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:15:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard Lynch" To: "David Schulz" User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:42:25 -0000 Sounds like flaky/cheap network card to me... [But I'm no expert] Perhaps, however, just doing a cron job every day to do the ifconfig down/up would be a simple work-around. On Sun, January 21, 2007 9:12 pm, David Schulz wrote: > Hello all, > > every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, > sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet > Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no > Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am > unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even > restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The > only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 > down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using > force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the > machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with > different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with > FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. > > Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this > Problem? > > Thanks a lot, > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:56:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7268316A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3231813C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=42431 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H8qHy-000AzU-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:56:10 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200701212118.12529.lists@jnielsen.net> References: <200701212118.12529.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:56:09 +0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: ghostscript device 'gdi' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:12 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:07, applecom@inbox.ru wrote: >> My experience with ghoscscript device 'gdi' is that even patched it >> generates a correct data only for 600 dpi resolution. With -r300' opt= ion >> printer makes pages with large horizontal black and grey stripes. >> Does somebody use Samsung laser printer and ghostscript device 'gdi' = for >> printing to it? > > I have a Lexmark E210, which is basically a rebranded Samsung ML-1210.= I > print to it using Cups and the foomatic scripts/filters and haven't ha= d = > any > problems. I know it uses gs with the gdi device on the back end. I jus= t > printed a test page at 300 dpi and it looks fine. I have Samsung ML-1210 exactly, foomatic-filters-3.0.2_4, ghostscript-gnu-7.07_15. Try to print alphabet.ps from ghostscript examples with 300 dpi. For example: 'foomatic-rip --ppd -o Resolution=3D300x300dpi -o PageSize=3DA4 /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/alphabet.ps > /dev/ulpt0'. Is page printed well? For me isn't, only ugly stripes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:56:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74616A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx33.mail.ru (mx33.mail.ru [194.67.23.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF4313C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=43123 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H8qIT-000N7A-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:56:41 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9A22D208-C86A-47FC-8AF6-0D7C071213AE@tca-cable-connector.com> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <62460.209.254.223.2.1169435747.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <9A22D208-C86A-47FC-8AF6-0D7C071213AE@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:56:38 +0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:42 -0000 What about firewall and especially ipfw MAC rules? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 03:56:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8009B16A407 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4309F13C465 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFBE20745F for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:56:58 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6VN5do+wYPKV for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:56:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f01:224:1::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956CF20AA84 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:56:50 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:56:42 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 X-Face: &'; cS03F?rr_w2Qce.d2f7xmwXfcJWDs>}CkpDw.c]ZJJ_)i0Nx Subject: Help me pick a replacement graphics card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 03:56:59 -0000 --nextPart17808813.U8RshLo0fU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline My aging GeForce MX 400 is dying and I want to replace it with something a = bit=20 more modern. My desktop is running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Asus A7V (Via chipset)= =20 motherboard with a 1.4GHz Athlon. This is more of a hardward question than= =20 software, although pointers to any FreeBSD-specific driver gotchas would be= =20 appreciated. Basically, I want to run a few OpenGL apps (particular the "Second Life"=20 client, which works perfectly under Linux emulation), so I pretty much have= =20 to use the "nvidia" driver and not the open "NV" driver. The old card's=20 performance was fine for my purposes, so almost much anything at all newer= =20 should be OK. Therefore, I don't want to spend a lot of money on this. =20 However, I don't want to buy a card so old that NVidia will drop support fo= r=20 it in the next driver upgrade, as they did with this current card. My motherboard has an AGP 4x slot that the "nvidia" driver wants to run in = 2x=20 mode because it doesn't like the Via chipset. Now, it seems like there are= =20 precious few AGP 4x cards available these days; most look like 8x. Are tho= se=20 backward compatible all the way to 2x? Google returns plenty of=20 authoritative-sounding hits on both sides. Is there anything else I should be looking for? Any specific models you mi= ght=20 recommend? =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --nextPart17808813.U8RshLo0fU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFtDYA5sRg+Y0CpvERApJyAJ9jYCEIUBuOXX81GtS/2gSNC+5yewCfSmtf cnkEBowCQmha+o93fEfScl8= =jYZ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart17808813.U8RshLo0fU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 04:12:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389C616A408 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (smtp-out.fcibroadband.com [64.119.104.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ECB13C45A for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in1.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4111B1770; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with SMTP id 02002-10; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (host661461495e.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com [66.146.149.94]) by smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85E01B176E; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:12:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B439B9.4090707@bobmc.net> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:12:41 -0500 From: bobmc User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060615) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <798234.8744.qm@web58406.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <200701212131.36490.delphi123@zebra.net> <45B42C1B.5030802@bobmc.net> <200701212254.16952.delphi123@zebra.net> In-Reply-To: <200701212254.16952.delphi123@zebra.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Benjamin Sher Subject: Re: PCBSD 6.2 -- How to Install Second CD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:12:44 -0000 Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear Bob: > > I rebooted PCBSD with the first Install CD and chose Upgrade. It went ahead > and repaired and upgraded my system but at the end of the road I did not see > any mention of installing the second CD. I also didn't see it at the end of > my original install. What am I doing wrong, please. > > Are all of the applications on the second CD available from PBI or from the > packages on FreeBSD? > > Hope you can help. > Thank you. > Benjamin > > Perhaps you are not certain of the CD contents. CD1 is for installing the kernel and shells. CD2 has applications and utilities called "ports". ( Correct me if I am not exactly right!) Remove CD1 after install and then reboot. Next run sysinstall. Select "Configure -- Do post-install configuration.. ". Then choose "Packages -- install pre-packaged". Insert CD2 before you press enter on this menu item. Please direct your queries directly to the list so that you get better quality answers. Good Luck! -BobMc- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 04:14:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C432C16A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2E413C457 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1H8qN13DA8-0007dl; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:01:25 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0DAA6C4D; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:00:11 +0800 (HKT) In-Reply-To: References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <62460.209.254.223.2.1169435747.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <9A22D208-C86A-47FC-8AF6-0D7C071213AE@tca-cable-connector.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:01:03 +0800 To: applecom@inbox.ru X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:14:24 -0000 since the machines in question are behind a nat router with firewall, they do not have extra firewall enabled. On Jan 22, 2007, at 11:56 AM, applecom@inbox.ru wrote: > What about firewall and especially ipfw MAC rules? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 04:22:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3126216A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY) Received: from GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (gorilla.epedas.com.my [218.111.79.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C4613C43E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:22:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92FA1B5DB for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:55:20 +0800 (MYT) Received: from GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07419-01 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:53:58 +0800 (MYT) Received: from EPEDAS.COM.MY (localhost.EPEDAS.COM.MY [127.0.0.1]) by GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C021B5D4 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:53:58 +0800 (MYT) From: "Ahmad Faisal M. Nor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:53:58 +0800 Message-Id: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> Priority: urgent X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: ::ffff:10.10.20.20 (ded1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new AntiVirus & AntiSpam Scanner run on FreeBSD mail server at GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY Subject: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:22:16 -0000 NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, please CC to me as well We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with SAS (Serial Attach SCSI). Most newly manufacture branded server comes with SAS nowadays, no more SCSI. According to Dell Technical Support, SAS is a new technology of SCSI but different architecture. They don't have any idea whether it works on FreeBSD or not. I'm worried if it's not work on FreeBSD and we cannot return the hardware. Does anyone here have any idea on these SAS thing ? Thanks. --- EPedas Sdn. Bhd. (http://www.epedas.com.my) (wholly owned subsidiary of Safeguards Corporation Bhd.) -+-+-+-+-+-+-+ DISCLAIMER -+-+-+-+-+-+-+ This message is intended only for the ordinary use by the person to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential and privileged under applicable laws, or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. No one else may copy or forward all or any of it in any form. If you are not the intended recipient,you are From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 04:28:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C66316A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from mail.stovebolt.com (mail.stovebolt.com [66.221.101.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284A413C448 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (adsl-65-69-140-8.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [65.69.140.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.stovebolt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE0D114307 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:21:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:28:29 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <70BDE62F575D98655C1E9FFC@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> References: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7b1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="==========DFB7F6038B693B017025==========" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 04:28:32 -0000 --==========DFB7F6038B693B017025========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On January 22, 2007 11:53:58 AM +0800 "Ahmad Faisal M. Nor"=20 wrote: > > NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, please CC to me > as well > > We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with SAS (Serial > Attach SCSI). Most newly manufacture branded server comes with SAS > nowadays, no more SCSI. According to Dell Technical Support, SAS is a > new technology of SCSI but different architecture. They don't have any > idea whether it works on FreeBSD or not. I'm worried if it's not work on > FreeBSD and we cannot return the hardware. > > Does anyone here have any idea on these SAS thing ? > SAS =3D=3D Serial Attached *SCSI* I'm running a 1950 with two 73GB SAS drives, RAID 1, and not having any=20 problems. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ --==========DFB7F6038B693B017025==========-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:01:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B4D16A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF4513C45E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id l0M51lx72582; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001601c73de2$387b5ae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: , "David Schulz" References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:00:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:01:48 -0000 Been there. You need to replace your ethernet switch. It's what they call an ethernet hardware incompatability. Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but probably not. Ted . ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Schulz" To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity > Hello all, > > every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, > sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet > Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no > Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am > unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even > restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The > only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 > down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using > force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the > machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with > different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with > FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. > > Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this > Problem? > > Thanks a lot, > David > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:06:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5317016A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AE513C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1H8rNx1GfG-0007nS; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:06:29 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81340A6C30; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:05:16 +0800 (HKT) In-Reply-To: <001601c73de2$387b5ae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <001601c73de2$387b5ae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:06:08 +0800 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:06:39 -0000 Hi, thats harsh, because before i used a cheaper Mitsubishi, forgot the Model, but before Christmas i purchased a Cisco ws-c2960-48tt-l , which i thought was not too bad for what i needed. I just cant replace it easily now. Really, is that it? Im gonna have to go with the cronjob / shell script option? So sad, David On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Been there. You need to replace your ethernet switch. It's what > they call an ethernet hardware incompatability. > > Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but > probably not. > > Ted > . > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Schulz" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM > Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity > > >> Hello all, >> >> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, >> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet >> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no >> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am >> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even >> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The >> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 >> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using >> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the >> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with >> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with >> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. >> >> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this >> Problem? >> >> Thanks a lot, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:12:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E5F16A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D217613C47E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from coolf89ea26645 (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id l0M5C3x72652; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:12:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Message-ID: <001b01c73de3$a7a7efe0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Schulz" References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <001601c73de2$387b5ae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:10:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:12:07 -0000 Either that or replace the network card. Or put a dumb little 4 port hub between the card and the switch. it's funny but sometimes the cheaper nics have autonegotiation issues with the better quality hubs, and don't with the cheaper hubs. The network gods like to throw us these things from time to time to remind us the Universe has no fundamental logic Ted ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Schulz" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity > Hi, > > thats harsh, because before i used a cheaper Mitsubishi, forgot the > Model, but before Christmas i purchased a Cisco ws-c2960-48tt-l , > which i thought was not too bad for what i needed. I just cant > replace it easily now. Really, is that it? Im gonna have to go with > the cronjob / shell script option? > > So sad, > David > > > > On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > Been there. You need to replace your ethernet switch. It's what > > they call an ethernet hardware incompatability. > > > > Forcing the card to 10baset half or 100 base t full might fix it but > > probably not. > > > > Ted > > . > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Schulz" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM > > Subject: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity > > > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, > >> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet > >> Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no > >> Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am > >> unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even > >> restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The > >> only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 > >> down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using > >> force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the > >> machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with > >> different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with > >> FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. > >> > >> Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this > >> Problem? > >> > >> Thanks a lot, > >> David > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:18:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1702E16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:18:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay2.av-mx.com (relay2.av-mx.com [137.118.16.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F4213C44B for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:18:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 0 Received: from mx0.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.61] verified) by relay2.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with SMTP id 574855897 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:18:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 23831 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 05:18:28 -0000 Received: from dsl17096.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (micahjon@ywave.com@216.227.104.96) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 05:18:28 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 216.227.104.96 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl17096.ywave.com Message-ID: <45B44926.8010407@ywave.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:18:30 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Google talk with voice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:18:33 -0000 Anyone know of a way to do voice chat with Google chat users? KDE's Kopete is supposed to support gtalk's voice chat, but I can't get it to work. Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:27:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FA416A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahnke@sonatabio.com) Received: from smtp.wizwire.com (smtp.wizwire.com [209.218.100.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C4C13C45E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahnke@sonatabio.com) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (209.218.101.53.bvi2.wizwire.com [209.218.101.53]) by smtp.wizwire.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0M5QpNb021115 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:26:51 -0800 From: Frank Jahnke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sonata Biosciences, Inc. Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:26:11 -0800 Message-Id: <1169443571.894.92.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WizWire-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-WizWire-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jahnke@sonatabio.com Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jahnke@sonatabio.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:27:04 -0000 > > Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All > input will be very much appreciated. Wireless mice on either PS/2 or USB ports work fine with FreeBSD/X11/Window Managers. I've used them for years, and would never go back to a corded or balled mouse again. I too live with cats, though not Maine Coons, and you really should learn how to fix mice. FWIW, my optical mouse (a Logitech MX700) stopped working -- at least the scroll wheel stopped working. So I took it apart, and removed an unbelievable amount of hair from around the scroll wheel. It covered both portions of the optical train, and once it was removed, it worked fine. Very fine tweezers helped a lot. Other than that, you have to clean the optical port on the bottom once in a while, but that's it. I use tweezers. Rather than buy what's cheap, I'd suggest finding a quality one on a deal or buying a used one. I recently bought a Logitech Mediaplay (a fine general-purpose mouse) for $15, and another lightly-used MX700 also for $15. Yes, I have that many computers... Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 05:51:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C9316A404 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (smtp-out.fcibroadband.com [64.119.104.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7BF13C457 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bobmc@bobmc.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in1.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C031B1764 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out1 ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with SMTP id 05566-06 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (host661461495e.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com [66.146.149.94]) by smtp-out.fcibroadband.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3701B1740 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:51:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45B450C9.8060502@bobmc.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:51:05 -0500 From: bobmc User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060615) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> In-Reply-To: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:51:08 -0000 David Schulz wrote: > Hello all, > > every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, > sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet Connectivity. When something is frequently erratic, suspect software. But your problem looks like intermittent hardware. I have observed that the LAN will be marked down if you boot without it connected. Then if you connect the LAN and click a web bookmark, it will recover automatically without human intervention. CAT5 LAN cables with RJ45 plugs are not very robust. And people tend to handle them carelessly... stepping on them, tripping over them etc. They are usually single strand copper which can break inside the insulation with frequent flexing. The RJ45 plugs have poor strain relief such that the outer insulation pulls out of the plug creating another failure point. So for vexing problems like yours, I would examine the hardware very closely. Cheers, -BobMc- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 06:00:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E40716A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:00:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC3A13C441 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:00:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglists@tca-cable-connector.com) Received: from [218.16.58.208] (helo=munin.tcaportal.com) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML29c-1H8sDh1OB3-0006kT; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:00:20 +0100 Received: from [10.0.1.102] (bofh.tcaportal.com [10.0.1.102]) by munin.tcaportal.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABBEA6C50; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:58:37 +0800 (HKT) In-Reply-To: <45B450C9.8060502@bobmc.net> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <45B450C9.8060502@bobmc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <598B7261-05F2-49E7-A089-7D7AB983537A@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Schulz Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:59:28 +0800 To: bobmc X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1405312fe15d228f5bad0d2fcbb6dc17 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:00:22 -0000 hey, sure, of course i have checked the cat5 first, but it is clearly not the cable. id say it is as ted has written. what i would like to know now is how exactly happens this "hardware incompatibility"? On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:51 PM, bobmc wrote: > David Schulz wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, >> sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet >> Connectivity. > When something is frequently erratic, suspect software. But your > problem looks like intermittent hardware. I have observed that the > LAN > will be marked down if you boot without it connected. Then if you > connect the LAN and click a web bookmark, it will recover > automatically > without human intervention. > > CAT5 LAN cables with RJ45 plugs are not very robust. And people > tend to > handle them carelessly... stepping on them, tripping over them etc. > They > are usually single strand copper which can break inside the insulation > with frequent flexing. The RJ45 plugs have poor strain relief such > that > the outer insulation pulls out of the plug creating another failure > point. > > So for vexing problems like yours, I would examine the hardware very > closely. > > Cheers, -BobMc- > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 06:05:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7EE16A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skyhawk.ca) Received: from pd5mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7BF13C44B for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@skyhawk.ca) Received: from pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr8so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.101]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JC9004LC7EQR270@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:04:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml5so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.149]) by pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0JC9009VG7EPY7U0@pd4mr8so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:04:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail.skyhawk.ca ([70.68.196.45]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JC9005N57EMVT60@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:03:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (seinar.skyhawk [192.168.1.20]) by mail.skyhawk.ca with esmtp; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:02:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:03:52 -0800 From: Andrew Fremantle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Subject: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:05:49 -0000 Hello, I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major problems with this board. First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I select to boot without ACPI support. Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand the Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board. So my questions are 1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD? 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable. - Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 06:06:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7DE16A406 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603D513C459 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0M66Wew021659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:06:33 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.42] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0M66VIA029763 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:06:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45B44926.8010407@ywave.com> References: <45B44926.8010407@ywave.com> X-Gpgmail-State: !signed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7DEF6984-B5AE-4AA9-8592-DE628002138B@u.washington.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garrett Cooper Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:06:35 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.21.215433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: Google talk with voice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:06:33 -0000 On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Micah wrote: > > Anyone know of a way to do voice chat with Google chat users? KDE's > Kopete is supposed to support gtalk's voice chat, but I can't get > it to work. > > Thanks, > Micah Should be jabber. See: for more info and how to setup kopete properly. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 07:28:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786A616A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3BDD313C44B for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 11312 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 07:01:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=zb09W9EK0e6s6pq30Dpmop8taZCbhnutPWO/QnhZovL/ir/mU6oi7eISL0kAYubzpesdBkG20Pf9R3t32YR2hPn1LogougujvNMp96Ea/0c44kd/bd92ysW1oXcA7MXw0mjVt4M75A598DaWLoAs4i0EF5TUbIXq4L/C2q/G8V8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 07:01:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VaRnPw4VM1l2UBNWWxUyKzDtICk7JQJwsfcR8eO4koIgoyq5EdLynE5ZGntvGAyoevTqqqlRgPTAs3gxSxW4Na.6huLD In-Reply-To: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <29e65c13d622858f4a587786cedfcdfb@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:03:46 -0800 To: Andrew Fremantle X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:28:16 -0000 On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Andrew Fremantle wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near > future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. > I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper > motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major > problems with this board. > > First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel > initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, > then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I > select to boot without ACPI support. > > Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a > generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive > attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand > the Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The > kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board. > > So my questions are > > 1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD? > > 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard > video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? > > Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, > certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. > Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the > documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable. > > - Andrew If you are willing to try AMD64 I have built one with ASUS M2N32 WS pro. It has two PCI-e slots and two PCI x slots. Uses new AM2 socket and DDR2 memory, is not modestly priced at over $300 for the board alone. But there is also a model M2N32 SLI version that does not come with the PCI x slots and is somewhat less expensive. You might consider, I believe you can get AMD 64 dual core processors to use with it. But perhaps since you already spent the money on Intel, you are not willing to go this route. Oh, yes, the boards have dual gigabit built in NICs that appear to be well supported chip sets. It also has 6 internal SATA busses and 3 external SATA buses. I got the M2N32 WS Pro because I wanted to use two 15 k rpm SCSI drives along with an SATA boot drive. The SCSI adapter I got, LSIlogic, would only fit in PCIx slots. I have installed FreeBSD v6.0 and have had no problem with sysinstall what so ever. And it boots just fine, so far. Hope this helps JK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 07:50:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D16E16A40D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@topcomtech.com.cn) Received: from mail.topcomtech.com.cn (61-221-55-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.55.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E3513C47E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:50:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@topcomtech.com.cn) Received: from rzcpei ([219.137.13.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.topcomtech.com.cn (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0M7jh5R067494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:46:01 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from peter@topcomtech.com.cn) Message-ID: <01a101c73df9$34198ff0$560ea8c0@rzcpei> From: "peter" To: "Bill Moran" References: <003b01c73b71$b1e5a930$560ea8c0@rzcpei> <20070119091339.6a0229f1.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:44:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from zoot.lafn.org (zoot.lafn.ORG [206.117.18.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EDB13C43E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (pool-71-109-167-24.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.109.167.24]) (authenticated bits=0) by zoot.lafn.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0M7kA6e026323 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <598B7261-05F2-49E7-A089-7D7AB983537A@tca-cable-connector.com> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> <45B450C9.8060502@bobmc.net> <598B7261-05F2-49E7-A089-7D7AB983537A@tca-cable-connector.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <06AD2DDC-385F-45F0-80A0-3F648E765691@lafn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Doug Hardie Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 23:46:07 -0800 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/2476/Sun Jan 21 08:22:33 2007 on zoot.lafn.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:56:20 -0000 On Jan 21, 2007, at 21:59, David Schulz wrote: > hey, sure, of course i have checked the cat5 first, but it is > clearly not the cable. id say it is as ted has written. what i > would like to know now is how exactly happens this "hardware > incompatibility"? The interface chips use a very low level "protocol" to identify the rates and modes being used by the other end. Those are dependent on voltage thresholds which sometimes are not as accurate as one would like. Components age and tolerances change which can cause the two ends to get out of sync with each other. The interface specifications also tend to change a bit over time. I don't have the exact specs for ethernet, but the same issue arose many years ago with RS-232 devices. The original specification had a threshold voltage of around 20 volts. For line drivers with 25-28 volt sources it worked great. But, 25 volts is somewhat difficult in many situations and people started fudging using 12 V sources which would work with many of the drivers that actually used a 10 V threshold. Those devices would interface with some, but not all of the older devices. Ethernet has undergone a number of changes from the original RG-8 cabling to today. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 08:50:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B52716A40E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33413C455 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l0M8oCnJ097312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l0M8oCKV097310; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06232; Mon, 22 Jan 07 00:22:06 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:24:26 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: tedm@toybox.placo.com Message-Id: <45b474ba.mCgi87Gs2EyOmPZQ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <45AC719A.1020809@bobmc.net> <008401c73adc$aab2a900$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070118154349.587b2673@gumby.homeunix.com> <010601c73b99$78bd1080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b085ad.bj2Z1G8SQNxJ0p6O%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <003001c73c6e$87665c10$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b2aaf9.V2NP8H4RCXmKwvIZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <013001c73d51$a5bcaf00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <013001c73d51$a5bcaf00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:13 -0000 > > > What I don't get is I see guys walking in > > > dropping $1000 on associated Mac hardware crap ... > > The most expensive system around here is a Mac Sawtooth that cost > > $225 -- including a 17" monitor -- last September. The (Dell) > > FreeBSD box I'm using at the moment cost $10 at a flea market, ... > This is a totally unfair comparison. They guy dropping $1K on a > Mac is walking out with a machine that is fully configured and > ready to run. As was the Sawtooth. > When you get an old clunker by the time you tally up the time you > have spent on getting it ready to run, your at the same amount. ... > Skilled UNIX tech time is at min $95 an hour. Your talking a > min of 4 hours to get a Goodwill find up and going on FreeBSD > by the time you work out the quirks, assuming that the ram in it > doesen't have a flaw and the disk is good, if you have to replace > that stuff you count the hours it takes to drive to Fry's and > back, buy the disk, etc.. well your getting pretty close to that > $1K in my book. It took me *zero* more time to get this box (Dell #1) ready for FreeBSD than if it had come direct from Dell with Windoze preloaded. Yes, the hard drive did fail after a while, but that is not unheard of with brand new boxes either. I'm not convinced that a trip to Fry's for a new drive takes any longer than packing up a dead drive and taking it to the post office to ship back for warranty replacement. > In any case I was really speaking about the delta in a more > general sense. I see a lot of folks going to comcast - who > as I understand their pricing, for Internet service only over > comcast, you pay more too. You really shouldn't have given me an excuse to bash Comcast :) They claim they are faster, but since I seldom see anywhere near rated speed on DSL I don't think the DSL line is the limiting factor. Given that, I would not expect cable to be any faster *in practice* than DSL. When I tried to explain this to the door-to-door droid who was trying to sell me Comcast a while back, it was completely beyond his comprehension. I don't care for their TOS either -- as I understand it, I can't even leave an SSH port open to enable me to log in from the office because that would be considered "running a server". > The real point is how much do you value something? Are you > going to say that PPP-only DSL service from an ISP (verizon.net) > that does not give you a static IP number, and has a support desk > that is based in India and only speaks Windowease (and does a poor > job of that) is worth the same as all-the-time-on fully bridged > DSL service with a static IP and no goofy MTU size restrictions > and is supported by the same people that built the system and > who run Windows, FreeBSD and Linux both on their desktops and > servers? I could get a static IP from Verizon if I wanted to pay extra for it, but so far I haven't seen the need; my Netgear* firewall gets its IP address etc. via DHCP AFAIK. As to PPP vs bridged, that is taken care of somehow between some Verizon server and the firewall. I only know that I haven't had to program any username or password into the firewall, which I think would have been needed for PPP. * Keeping this marginally on-topic, I was originally using a GNATbox, which is based on FreeBSD. I switched to the Netgear after the GNATbox couldn't handle a Verizon "system upgrade" a while back. Anyway, I'm comparing the wire charges, not the ISP service. The DSL modem, pair to the CO, and whatever transport from there to the ISP are presumably the same in either case; if anything connecting to a local ISP should be cheaper than having to send the bits all the way to Verizon Online on the east coast. Yet -- as of when I looked into it -- Verizon was charging something like $5 or $10 *more* for the wire connection to a 3rd party ISP than for the equivalent connection to Verizon Online, and effectively throwing in the ISP "service" for free. > ... 40 years ago you went to the grocery store and bought > bread and all they had was Wonder air bread. You went to the > bar and bought a beer and all they had was Bud. Restaurants > either came in Burger, Steak, or American Menu ... I have been around long enough to have had personal experience with 40 years ago, and I can assure you that, at least in central Iowa, the food situation was a whole lot better than that. I can't speak to the beer, for which I was underage, although not by a lot :) > Today, you go to the grocery store and sure you can still get the > air-bread. But for more money you can get bread that tastes far, > far better, and was baked locally. I don't think local is relevant to your argument. Franz' version of what you call air-bread is baked in Portland. > You go to the bar and sure > you can still get the cheap Bud that was peed out of some horse > back in the Midwest and carried in 1000 gallon tank trucks, > or you can pay more money and get the better tasting microbrewed > stuff that someone brewed in small batches right there ... Lots > of people would rather pay more for the better tasting coffee at > Starbucks than the cheap stuff out of the office vending machine. Or you can skip the coffee and beer altogether. Yecch! > Why is it OK for the food industry to be like this, and it's not > OK for the Internet Service industry to be like this? It seems > like everyone only wants Internet Service to be as cheap as > possible and couldn't give a damn about quality. I don't need much from an ISP beyond connectivity, bandwidth, an IP address, and access to a nameserver; why should I pay for services I'm not going to use? (I have *never* logged on to Verizon -- I think they sent me an ID and password, but I have no clue what they are for; I've never needed to use them :) I *do* want it to work properly, which has been a lot less of an issue recently than it used to be; and when it quits working, esp. when nothing has changed on my end, I'd like to be able to reach someone who has a clue. > > > Basically IMHO the Verizon pricing program was designed to > > > push the really tiny independents, ie: the guys that might > > > have a grand total of 5 or 10 Verizon DSL customers, off of > > > their network. > > > > That would have violated at least the intent, if not the letter, > > of the antitrust laws. > > Actually, no. Here's the problem. Have you ever wondered why > the telephone companies over the last 10 years have all stopped > referring to themselves as "telephone" companies and started > referring to themselves as "communications companies"? > > The reason is that they successfully convinced the FCC that an ISP > can be nothing more than services offered by the telephone company. > (or cable or dish, company) If they were an FCC-regulated "common carrier" they would have certain equal-access obligations. Having successfully argued that Internet service should *not* be so regulated, they lose the common carrier's exemption from the antitrust laws. They should not be able to have it both ways. > So, in most areas you have a telephone company that offers DSL, > and a cable company that offers cable Internet. So according to > the FCC, there -is- competition because there are 2 separate ISPs > there. One ISP is owned by the telephone company and the other > is owned by the cable company. Last I heard*, the prohibition on anticompetitive practices extends to anyone having "market power", generally defined as over roughly 1/3 of a market. As applied to the market in broadband residential Internet service, in the part of the Portland metro area where Verizon is authorized to provide local wired telephone service, the only way for the piece of Verizon that provides the actual DSL connection (not the ISP part) to *not* have market power would be for Comcast plus Dish to have something like 70% of it. I very much doubt that this has ever been the case. The real problem is that the authorities have not been enforcing the antitrust laws. No surprise, they didn't meaningfully enforce them against Micro$oft either. * from the legal department of a former employer, large enough in its industry to consider it worthwhile to brief engineering employees on antitrust law so as to forestall violations that might otherwise arise through ignorance > Dialup is the gateway drug to DSL but by definition the only > people out there seeking dialup, are the bottom feeders (people > who won't pay a penny more than the absolute minum) and as > a result would never countenence paying the extra money for > broadband. Verizon is leaving it to the independent ISP's > to deal with this crowd. Well I am a "bottom feeder" as far as DSL is concerned, but also a very early adopter; and I have never had dialup IP. (I have had email for over a decade, and it still runs over UUCP. It ain't broke.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 08:50:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA46116A40E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9134013C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l0M8oC9N097317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:50:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l0M8oC20097316; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06243; Mon, 22 Jan 07 00:38:19 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:40:40 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@dfwlp.com Message-Id: <45b47888.QwAikNVmajUUqwZc%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <200701211046.22498.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200701211046.22498.freebsd@dfwlp.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remove extra packages and streamline 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:50:16 -0000 > > Is there some way to figure out what apps I don't need installed > > anymore? > > all of my systems, whether desktops or servers, i start with > the minimal install. from there, i use the ports collection to > buildout anything i need. i know this is probably the long way > around for most cases, but i feel in the end, there is nothing > on there that i didnt deliberately put on there. > > next time up, try a minimal install, and then just cd right into > the directory of the port that will define your system. when you > 'make install clean', it should process just the dependencies that > your PBX needs. I think the point was that, in the course of getting the system set up and configured properly, there were some things loaded for use while configuring that are no longer needed in production; and there may also have been some things loaded that turned out never to have actually been needed (but that wasn't apparent when they were installed). In principle, a reinstall might manage to avoid the latter group; it's less clear that it would avoid the former group. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 09:00:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347D016A405 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@myhome.net) Received: from imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BCF13C457 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@myhome.net) Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([74.241.161.118]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070122073103.TVKO2165.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:31:03 -0500 Received: from myhome.net ([74.241.161.118]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20070122073102.FBEC20155.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@myhome.net> for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:31:02 -0500 Received: (qmail 1625 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jan 2007 07:31:15 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:31:15 -0600 From: Paul Procacci To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122073115.GA1169@datapipe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Problem with Nat (port forwarding) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:00:10 -0000 Hey all, I've been spending hours trying to figure out why my machine at the office (Linux), cannot connect to my FreeBSD (6.1) machine behind my nat'ed gateway. This was working fine previously before my linksys router decided to take a nose dive, so I am sure the Linux box that is attempting to establish the connection is configured fine. When the router crapped out, I decided to put all that old hardware I wasn't using for anything to good use. What I ended up with is a Pentium 3 200mhz machine with several network interfaces conncted to my internet provider (BellSouth). In order to continue working from home, it's necessary that I get this tunnel up and running, and for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out what exactly I'm doing wrong. Here is my current configuration: Gateway (FBSD 6.2) - IPFW / NATD ------------------------------------- PPPoE Configuration for DSL (Works fine) ------------------ nat# cat /etc/ppp/ppp.conf default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device PPPoE:xl0:pppoe-in enable lqr echo set cd 5 set dial set login set authname "username" set authkey "pass" set redial 0 0 enable dns set ifaddr 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 add default HISADDR The above creates the following device without problems: ----------------------- tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1492 inet xx.xx.xx.xx --> xx.xx.xx.xx netmask 0xffffff00 Opened by PID 492 Natd configuration (Works fine w/ the exception of port forwarding) ------------------------------ natd_enable="YES" natd_flags="-dynamic -m -redirect_port tcp 10.5.21.246:5000 5000" natd_interface="tun0" IPFW RULES (works fine) ------------------------------------------ nat# ipfw show 00001 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00002 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00003 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00050 6 444 allow ip from any to any via xl0 00051 10646 2950467 allow ip from any to any via fxp0 00052 1212 101901 allow ip from any to any via dc0 00053 534 261533 allow ip from any to any via rl0 00100 4316 2156348 divert 8668 ip from any to any in via tun0 00101 0 0 check-state 00150 1121 332120 skipto 500 udp from any to any out via tun0 keep-state 00160 5795 2319421 skipto 500 tcp from any to any out via tun0 setup keep-state 00170 91 8551 skipto 500 icmp from any to any out via tun0 keep-state 00180 1013 87013 skipto 500 gre from any to any out via tun0 keep-state 00301 941 57268 allow tcp from any to 10.5.21.246 dst-port 5000 in via tun0 setup keep-state 00400 264 19399 deny log ip from any to any 00500 4182 622757 divert 8668 ip from any to any out via tun0 00501 8020 2747105 allow ip from any to any 65535 44 4726 allow ip from any to any Do note, the interfaces housing the vtund application that I'm concerned with lives over the fxp0 interace. In addition rule number 00301 triggers appropriately when a packet destined for port 5000 is inbound. /var/log/security makes no mention of anything being denied by this firewall ruleset destined for or originating from port 5000 by any host. This is certainly the case, as the host where vtund is running is recieving packets from the gateway on port 5000 (info showing this follows). I also see the vtund box responding to the inbound packets, but it never creates the tunnel device as it should, and nothing gets logged. VTUND HOST ------------------------------------------ IPFW RULES (NONE) ----------------------------- NETSTAT ----------------------------- nat# netstat -nat | fgrep 5000 tcp4 0 0 *.5000 *.* LISTEN IS IT LISTENING??? -- YES ----------------------------- nat# telnet 10.5.21.246 5000 Trying 10.5.21.246... Connected to work_machine. Escape character is '^]'. VTUN server ver 12/20/2006 TCPDUMP from destination machine(Packets are making it this far) ----------------------------- fileserv# tcpdump -i em0 port 5000 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on em0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 68 bytes 01:18:16.831396 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20342: S 2762324279:2762324279(0) ack 1110928859 win 65535 01:18:19.846872 IP .20342 > 10.5.21.246.commplex-main: S 1110928858:1110928858(0) win 5840 01:18:19.846894 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20342: S 2762324279:2762324279(0) ack 1110928859 win 65535 01:18:25.876180 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20342: S 2762324279:2762324279(0) ack 1110928859 win 65535 01:18:31.912374 IP .20342 > 10.5.21.246.commplex-main: S 1110928858:1110928858(0) win 5840 01:18:31.912406 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20342: S 2762324279:2762324279(0) ack 1110928859 win 65535 01:18:43.971794 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20342: S 2762324279:2762324279(0) ack 1110928859 win 65535 01:18:46.024173 IP .20373 > 10.5.21.246.commplex-main: S 1145016457:1145016457(0) win 5840 01:18:46.024208 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20373: S 2258110650:2258110650(0) ack 1145016458 win 65535 01:18:47.821762 IP .20232 > 10.5.21.246.commplex-main: . ack 0 win 0 01:18:47.821788 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20232: R 0:0(0) win 0 01:18:49.038886 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20373: S 2258110650:2258110650(0) ack 1145016458 win 65535 01:18:49.038942 IP .20373 > 10.5.21.246.commplex-main: S 1145016457:1145016457(0) win 5840 01:18:49.038959 IP 10.5.21.246.commplex-main > .20373: S 2258110650:2258110650(0) ack 1145016458 win 65535 ..... ..... TCPDUMP on the interal nic (gateway - fxp0) ----------------------------- nat# tcpdump -i fxp0 port 5000 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on fxp0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 68 bytes 01:25:36.734256 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20488: S 3180151438:3180151438(0) ack 332523228 win 65535 01:25:36.735776 IP .20488 > work_machine.commplex-main: S 332523227:332523227(0) win 5840 01:25:36.735984 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20488: S 3180151438:3180151438(0) ack 332523228 win 65535 01:25:37.202142 IP .20406 > work_machine.commplex-main: . ack 0 win 0 01:25:37.202299 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20406: R 0:0(0) win 0 01:25:50.744236 IP .20500 > work_machine.commplex-main: S 1092281427:1092281427(0) win 5840 01:25:50.744460 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20500: S 2038175112:2038175112(0) ack 1092281428 win 65535 ..... ..... TCPDUMP on the external nic (gateway) ----------------------------- nat# tcpdump -i tun0 host tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on tun0, link-type NULL (BSD loopback), capture size 68 bytes 01:28:10.872333 IP .20533 > adsl-241-161-118.bna.bellsouth.net.commplex-main: S 2029663877:2029663877(0) win 5840 01:28:10.872786 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20533: S 1854728145:1854728145(0) ack 2029663878 win 65535 01:28:12.185971 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20428: . ack 618288056 win 0 01:28:12.186129 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20428: R 0:0(0) win 0 01:28:13.869476 IP .20533 > adsl-241-161-118.bna.bellsouth.net.commplex-main: S 2029663877:2029663877(0) win 5840 01:28:13.869843 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20533: S 1854728145:1854728145(0) ack 2029663878 win 65535 01:28:16.869646 IP work_machine.commplex-main > .20533: S 1854728145:1854728145(0) ack 2029663878 win 65535 ..... ..... If anyone has any ideas, I've be much appreciated. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 13:00:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C9516A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:00:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0087513C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:00:50 -0500 id 00056415.45B4B583.0000FF7E Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:00:48 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY Message-Id: <20070122080048.91b9e4ec.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> References: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:00:52 -0000 In response to "Ahmad Faisal M. Nor" : > > NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, please CC to me as well > > We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with SAS (Serial > Attach SCSI). We have four or five 2950s deployed in various places. It uses the mfi driver. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 13:13:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE19816A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from electromir.ru (gate.electromir.ru [213.33.202.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466D413C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (account paluhin [192.168.0.124] verified) by electromir.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.12) with ESMTPA id 1554966 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:13:04 +0300 Message-ID: <45B4AA7F.3020104@electromir.ru> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:13:51 +0300 From: Oleg Palukhin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: buildworld_6.2-release_error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:13:10 -0000 `make buildworld` fails with this error: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c:120: error: field `res_state_ext` has incomplete type /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: In function `__res_init`: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: `_res_ext` undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: At top level /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 630: error storage size of `_res_ext` isn`t known *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 FreeBSD palukhin.xxx.com 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Mon Oct 9 16:40:57 MSD 2006 oleg@palukhin.xxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSKERN i386 And I keep getting same error trying make buildworld from these src on other machine under 6.1-RELEASE. Any thoughts about it? Many thanks! -- oleg palukhin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 13:55:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645FA16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F58713C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0MDtvYK010326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:55:57 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0MDtvEI017129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:55:57 -0800 Message-ID: <45B4C26C.30002@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 05:55:56 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B4AA7F.3020104@electromir.ru> In-Reply-To: <45B4AA7F.3020104@electromir.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.22.54433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CHARSET_IS_KOI8R 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: buildworld_6.2-release_error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:55:58 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Oleg Palukhin wrote: > `make buildworld` fails with this error: > > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c:120: error: field `res_state_ext` has > incomplete type > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: In function `__res_init`: > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: `_res_ext` undeclared > (first use in this function) > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: (Each undeclared > identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: for each function it > appears in.) > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: At top level > /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 630: error storage size of `_res_ext` > isn`t known > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/lib. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > > FreeBSD palukhin.xxx.com 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Mon > Oct 9 16:40:57 MSD 2006 > oleg@palukhin.xxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSKERN i386 > > And I keep getting same error trying make buildworld from these src on > other machine under 6.1-RELEASE. > > > Any thoughts about it? > > Many thanks! > > -- > > oleg palukhin Try cvsup'ing on both machines and rebuild world for both. If the error still occurs post-CVSUP, what's your arch and build options (/etc/make.conf or CLI set variables)? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtMJsEnKyINQw/HARAl+6AKCPvlKJgUmgLX/5Wd+XumixoxmJ2gCgj+jS HRRjW3+y9+QJ4n0S5z/HNgg= =5LNs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 14:12:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2B316A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F2713C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:12:19 -0500 id 00056424.45B4C643.000105F0 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:12:18 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "peter" Message-Id: <20070122091218.6de55170.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <01a101c73df9$34198ff0$560ea8c0@rzcpei> References: <003b01c73b71$b1e5a930$560ea8c0@rzcpei> <20070119091339.6a0229f1.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <01a101c73df9$34198ff0$560ea8c0@rzcpei> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: no pv entries: increase vm.pmap.shpgperproc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:12:20 -0000 In response to "peter" : > > In response to "peter" : > > > Hi, > > > My freebsd box runs the apache httpd2.0 server, postgresql8.1server, > > > Recently, I got the below info in /var/crash. > > > “Dump header from device /dev/da0s1b > > > Architecture: i386 > > > Architecture Version: 2 > > > Dump Length: 1073127424B (1023 MB) > > > Blocksize: 512 > > > Dumptime: Wed Jan 17 16:39:08 2007 > > > Hostname: myhost.mydomain.com > > > Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump > > > Version String: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Apr 25 15:07:33 CST 2006 > > > peter@myhost.mydomain.com:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/MYKNL > > > Panic String: no pv entries: increase vm.pmap.shpgperproc > > > Dump Parity: 2383301964 > > > Bounds: 49 > > > Dump Status: good†> > > I had searched in google, but I didn’t know how to do. > > > > You _should_ be able to raise the vm.pmap.shpgperproc sysctl to prevent > > the problem -- but there doesn't seem to be any such sysctl. I'm not sure > > what's going on here, but it seems to me that a PR is in order. > > I had ever added the line "kern.vm.pmap.shpgperproc=4096" to /boot/loader.conf , > but it seems to be ineffective. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/108121 > > Failing that, you could set the following in your kernel config: > > options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=250 > > and rebuild/reinstall your kernel. > > > > The default value is 200, so I expect 250 will be enough of a bump to > > fix the problem. If it's not, raise it a little higher and try again. > > I don't know of any way to tell exactly what this value should be other > > than trial and error. I've seen warnings that raising this value too > > high can result in an unbootable kernel, so take care to understand how > > to recover from the installation of an unbootable kernel. > > How to know the default value? Experiment. You can also look at the PV line in the sysctl vm.zone, but I'm not sure how to interpret that information. > The website on the box has about 22000 visits every day, so i think the > physical memory size maybe small. OK. > I configured httpd.conf like this: > .... > KeepAlive Off > .... > > StartServers 8 > MinSpareServers 3 > MaxSpareServers 5 > ServerLimit 170 > MaxClients 160 > MaxRequestsPerChild 300 > > ..... If this is a dedicated web server, you sure are configuring it wrong. First off, you tell it to start 8 workers, then immediately kill off three of them to meet the MaxSpareServers. That's pretty minor, however, as it only happens at startup. MaxSpareServers of 5 is pretty low for a busy webserver. If the site is seeing a lot of traffic, or the traffic is erratic, you're forcing Apache to try to constantly tune itself to exactly what the load is. If this server is dedicated to webserving, you'd do better to raise MaxSpareServers to something like 25, so you have some spare capacity when the load spikes instead of forcing Apache to do a lot of forking, then kill off a lot of processes, then fork a lot of them again ... But that discussion belongs on the Apache lists ... -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 14:28:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96ED16A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9833E13C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0MES1Mp012710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:28:01 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0MES0SB018519 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:28:00 -0800 Message-ID: <45B4C9F0.4000000@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:28:00 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.22.61432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: boot0 Bootloader questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:28:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 2 questions: - -I remember seeing an option where you could show only a few slices at the bootloader, but I forget what command modifies that. Does anyone know what it might be? - -Is there any way to adjust the timeout for the bootloader? TIA, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtMnwEnKyINQw/HARAqvaAKCGFEOqBYbr+wtme6k7IeToSyPO0QCfcYNV mFg33T6QsvPJNFDnMa5WZL0= =aBMz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 14:47:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9737216A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from electromir.ru (gate.electromir.ru [213.33.202.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0334D13C467 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (account paluhin [192.168.0.124] verified) by electromir.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.12) with ESMTPA id 1557664 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:47:14 +0300 Message-ID: <45B4CEA4.3050403@electromir.ru> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:48:04 +0300 From: Oleg Palukhin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: buildworld_6.2-release_error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:47:17 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:55:56 +0300, Garrett Cooper wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Oleg Palukhin wrote: >> `make buildworld` fails with this error: >> >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c:120: error: field `res_state_ext` has >> incomplete type >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: In function `__res_init`: >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: `_res_ext` undeclared >> (first use in this function) >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: (Each undeclared >> identifier is reported only once >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: for each function it >> appears in.) >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: At top level >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 630: error storage size of `_res_ext` >> isn`t known >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src/lib. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/src. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> >> FreeBSD palukhin.xxx.com 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Mon >> Oct 9 16:40:57 MSD 2006 >> oleg@palukhin.xxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSKERN i386 >> >> And I keep getting same error trying make buildworld from these src on >> other machine under 6.1-RELEASE. >> >> >> Any thoughts about it? >> >> Many thanks! >> >> -- >> >> oleg palukhin > > Try cvsup'ing on both machines and rebuild world for both. > If the error still occurs post-CVSUP, what's your arch and build options > (/etc/make.conf or CLI set variables)? > - -Garrett ok, thanks, I`ll try cvsup and rebuild again and tell about results soon; just hoped that can do without re-cvsup oleg palukhin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 14:51:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A37B16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F95913C478 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:51:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-72-129-222-120.new.res.rr.com [72.129.222.120]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0MDgaoH026199; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.33]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0MDgaxF077856; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0MDgafM001529; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l0MDgaNX001528; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20070122134235.GB1382@polands.org> References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> <17844.85.335537.317957@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17844.85.335537.317957@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/2476/Sun Jan 21 10:22:33 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:51:31 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 07:07:49PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Garrett Cooper writes: > > > One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech > > definition but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems > > such that if one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that > > needs to write to "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of > > "/var" can bring down entire systems and infrastructures (happened > > before where I was working as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space > > on /var). Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the > > older guard on the list know why. > I've had a /usr partition corrupt on a drive and I was able to boot into single user mode, mark the /usr partition read-only and mount it. I ran on a crippled but functional /usr partition until I could replace the drive. That would not have been possible with one large partition. > N) Dump - the preferred beckup method - works at the partition level. > Sure, you can flag files and directories "nodump" using chflags ... > but do you really want to manage that given modern disk sizes? > Also, file system quotas and snapshots work at the partition level. I manage an "all-in-one" server for a small non-profit. This is a rather "extreme" example of partitioning and, admittedly, I did it as an experiment, but you'll see my logic when you think about how dumps, quotas, snapshots work at the partition level. # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/da0s2b /data ufs rw,groupquota 2 2 /dev/da0s2a /home ufs rw,groupquota 2 2 /dev/da0s1d /tmp ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s2h /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s2d /usr/local ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s2g /usr/local/www ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1h /usr/obj ufs noatime,async,rw 2 2 /dev/da0s2f /usr/ports ufs noatime,async,rw 2 2 /dev/da0s2e /usr/src ufs noatime,async,rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1g /var/db ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s1f /var/mail ufs rw,groupquota 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 snapshot_schedule="/,/usr:1:0:0 /usr/local,/usr/local/www:1:2:0 /var/db:2:1:0 /data,/var:0:1:0 /var/mail:1:2:0 /home:0:1:0" Using this partitioning scheme, I could also optimize /usr/obj /usr/src and /usr/ports for building. Since the underlying hardware is 3Ware RAID-10 on about 300GB of space, I had plenty of room with which to work. My only regret is making /usr/obj only 800MB in size. It gives me enough room for building world and ONE kernel, but not two kernels at one time. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 14:57:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD2A16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) Received: from relay0.av-mx.com (relay0.av-mx.com [137.118.16.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001C13C441 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from micahjon@ywave.com) X-Virus-Scan-Time: 1 Received: from mx0.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.61] verified) by relay0.av-mx.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with SMTP id 566479366 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:57:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 23698 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 14:57:11 -0000 Received: from dsl10219.ywave.com (HELO ?192.168.1.66?) (micahjon@ywave.com@12.178.97.219) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 14:57:11 -0000 X-CLIENT-IP: 12.178.97.219 X-CLIENT-HOST: dsl10219.ywave.com Message-ID: <45B4D0C9.2040701@ywave.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:57:13 -0800 From: Micah User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <45B44926.8010407@ywave.com> <7DEF6984-B5AE-4AA9-8592-DE628002138B@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <7DEF6984-B5AE-4AA9-8592-DE628002138B@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Google talk with voice? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:57:16 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Micah wrote: > >> >> Anyone know of a way to do voice chat with Google chat users? KDE's >> Kopete is supposed to support gtalk's voice chat, but I can't get it >> to work. >> >> Thanks, >> Micah > > Should be jabber. See: > for more info and how to setup kopete properly. > -Garrett Sorry, I should have mentioned that text chat works fine in kopete, voice chat does not. When either I or the other party initiates a voice connection, it tries, and what I say gets played back on my end rather broken up but never makes it to the other end. Then the voice session terminates on its own. File transfers don't work either and, from what I've read on jingle, voice chats and file transfers use the same technology. Thanks, Micah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 15:03:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F7B16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A537413C467 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 50869 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 14:37:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=LI5r3Qc9aXOxmqV3PBMqfoszCWEKLVNCU6d3lFZ1a/UowWgGlLjHl/L0wKgvtV10PBMRtJDoGB74XrhNNJD8xqF51jdX60s0/F7xetDjX1JoHmuUqSei1mS2RASctOXg8YXcVG8fzNsfyagFF1tHasawOJEGLFJhNdkrZ8plCLA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@74.104.205.212 with login) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 14:37:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: R8uMSmcVM1mjfcQhMM7LCoq_jk2rklhWtTzL3eIVLZjoBkcqyLWEUm2NGtrttwmbKA-- From: "Tamouh H." To: , Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:37:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> Thread-Index: Acc93PoDXmQvQfh+Sv60ufuusAgAvQAVbUow X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20070122150346.A537413C467@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:03:47 -0000 > NOTE: I'm not subscribe to the FreeBSD.org mailing list, > please CC to me as well > > We're ordering Dell Poweredge 2950 Server which is come with > SAS (Serial Attach SCSI). Most newly manufacture branded > server comes with SAS nowadays, no more SCSI. According to > Dell Technical Support, SAS is a new technology of SCSI but > different architecture. They don't have any idea whether it > works on FreeBSD or not. I'm worried if it's not work on > FreeBSD and we cannot return the hardware. > > Does anyone here have any idea on these SAS thing ? > > > Thanks. > > --- > EPedas Sdn. Bhd. (http://www.epedas.com.my) (wholly owned > subsidiary of Safeguards Corporation Bhd.) Check this post: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org/msg01660.html According to it suppoused to be supported via mfi driver FBSD 6.x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 15:40:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0816A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com (a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com [64.72.68.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44E613C47E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org) Received: from mail.bsdwebsolutions.com ([64.72.68.15]) by a.outbound.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD Web Solutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1H90xi-0007wp-Go for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:19:58 -0500 Received: from [64.72.66.117] (helo=mail.poughkeepsieschools.org) by mail.bsdwebsolutions.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1H90xi-0005if-90 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:19:58 -0500 Received: from node108.adm.phs.pcsd ([10.20.1.108]:2517 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by mail.poughkeepsieschools.org with esmtpa (BSD WebSolutions, Inc.) (envelope-from ) id 1H90xi-000LmR-0L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (authenticated as bcook@poughkeepsieschools.org); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:19:58 -0500 X-BSD-Virus-Check: ClamAV 0.88.7/2476 on mail.poughkeepsieschools.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:19:58 -0500 Message-ID: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:19:22 -0500 From: "B. Cook" Organization: Poughkeepsie City School District User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:40:43 -0000 I'm inheriting an older network and I'm trying to update it.. cvsup to 6_2.. Doing a build kernel && install kernel then reboot and build world && install world && mergemaster -p if needed then rebuild the kernel and reinstall it.. right? I couldn't see anything major in UPDATING.. am I missing something? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 15:45:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8A916A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDE713C45A for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0MFdmMR090828; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:39:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0MFdl9Q090827; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:39:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:39:47 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jeff Mohler Message-ID: <20070122153947.GA90751@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Christian Baer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:45:02 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 11:54:40AM -0900, Jeff Mohler wrote: > Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one > spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance > issue..but..its one spindle. Primarily for management and backup/restore convenience. You can break thing in to convenient chunks for backups, to have a smaller root to deal with during development/testing/recovery, to isolate things that may grow unexpectedly from other things, such as root that can kill the system if it gets overfilled, etc. I partition mine much less than I used to in the [] old days, but still find it usefule to have /, /usr, /tmp swap and some work or home file system separate. Also, it can be convenient to separate out database and web site file systems if those get lots of use. Otherwise, if you have a rock stable system serving data that does not change, etc, then breaking things up is not useful. ////jerry > > / works. > > ? > > If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we > only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from > back in the day..im willing to learn. > > > > On 1/21/07, Christian Baer wrote: > >Hi folkes! > > > >Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? > > > >Background: > > > >I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with > >any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on > >it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted > >on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two > >mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted > >on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second > >swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in > >words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: > > > >Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > >/dev/da0a 501M 72M 389M 16% / > >devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > >/dev/da0d 1.9G 102K 1.8G 0% /tmp > >/dev/da1f 21G 2.9G 17G 15% /usr > >/dev/da0h 6.8G 742M 5.5G 12% /usr/obj > >/dev/da0e 4.8G 71M 4.4G 2% /var > >/dev/mirror/sec1.eli 9.8G 7.5M 9.0G 0% /usr/home > >/dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0% /usr/home/christian > > > >What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 > >gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted > >partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free > >space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more > >than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / > >any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. > > > >Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be > >schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was > >thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea > >at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive > >than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. > > > >But the > >problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out > >of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had > >one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation > >before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We > >are talking about SPARC64 here. > > > >Regards > >Chris > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 15:47:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CEF16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DD013C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so507926nfc for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:47:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YdPOLaIkrGWZnClgPv9muZ9r36HxISODu182TFEx5EcH8xgDugLNTBd6Ae+F4yf7UbUmi47nESTOqUNpwLjU+RYl/sDGWIPBEBeCeNSaECORtqgy1sUArBMYV1d0cUhXsJVxroIn6pDHIyqvRzjrXIlY9Qsm+M6CS/WDL1czGmY= Received: by 10.49.57.12 with SMTP id j12mr6826020nfk.1169480829024; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.106.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a24sm15558109nfc.2007.01.22.07.47.07; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:47:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B4DD25.7070503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:49:57 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B254FC.8050908@gmail.com> <45B3E864.2050603@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cant load OpenGL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:47:15 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > "pkg_info -Ex xorg" will show you versions of xorg > apps installed. At the moment you probably have > 6.9. Xorg 7.2 will be committed to the ports tree > any time soon. Ah thanx! I'll be waiting... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 15:48:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FD716A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: from web53303.mail.yahoo.com (web53303.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F17413C4A5 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:48:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 96770 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2007 15:48:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yDAYk5eaXalrn4Cy0oH5SLpfXgmFFYV15oh72HLn6cDtHFx7x+hzngzf2Jqb5eHeic5JrUI0lEtEeAhwQ85CttNKXUiz/1kzBe95ghxw04gEhwCm0juDAOyZ0rWo/rIsJIdBXu32XFDOZftLPQeMn+/7Eyj8PyN32vR5tyCX5so=; X-YMail-OSG: dVX5SxIVM1lGJZV.EM8Jo.eoauBi0r1Q8y1K6WLML6INwXxZcnhonjO1_m5kimt7m8rGzLFl2UGmXioG1UL965zdNuAB5bUvxPffU5s_671ULDtEpe9wfQkVYyIgFYbopFBUiDBGS920VTk- Received: from [66.49.254.13] by web53303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:48:45 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:48:45 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <561554.90532.qm@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: error boot up from clone drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:48:46 -0000 Hi I am trying to test the clone harddrive to boot up the system. I got an error init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port /dev/tty.. but I check the clone harddive. the file is there /usr/libexec/getty and /dev/tty. i am using the following to copy the production drive to clone drive 1/ add the secondary ad2 (clone) in the computer 2/ fdisk and parition as same as the primary drive (ad0) 3/ newfs and mount ad2 eg: /usr1 /var1 .... 4/ using tar command to copy file from /var/ to /var1 eg: tar cf - var | ( cd var1; tar xvfBp - ) 5/ shutdown the computer 6/ unplug ad0 and plug the IDE1 to IDE0 7/ boot up Thank you for your help ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 16:12:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE4B16A409 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahnke@sonatabio.com) Received: from smtp.wizwire.com (smtp.wizwire.com [209.218.100.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41DB13C480 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahnke@sonatabio.com) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (209.218.101.53.bvi2.wizwire.com [209.218.101.53]) by smtp.wizwire.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0LMnvxx031668; Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:49:58 -0800 From: Frank Jahnke To: bobmc@bobmc.net Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sonata Biosciences, Inc. Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:49:22 -0800 Message-Id: <1169419762.894.22.camel@pinot.fmjassoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WizWire-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-WizWire-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: jahnke@sonatabio.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jahnke@sonatabio.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:12:17 -0000 > > Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All > input will be very much appreciated. Wireless mice on either PS/2 or USB ports work fine with FreeBSD/X11/Window Managers. I've used them for years, and would never go back to a corded or balled mouse again. I too live with cats, though not Maine Coons, and you really should learn how to fix mice. FWIW, my optical mouse (a Logitech MX700) stopped working -- at least the scroll wheel stopped working. So I took it apart, and removed an unbelievable amount of hair from around the scroll wheel. It covered both portions of the optical train, and once it was removed, it worked fine. Very fine tweezers helped a lot. Other than that, you have to clean the optical port on the bottom once in a while, but that's it. I use tweezers. Rather than buy what's cheap, I'd suggest finding a quality one on a deal or buying a used one. I recently bought a Logitech Mediaplay (a fine general-purpose mouse) for $15, and another lightly-used MX700 also for $15. Yes, I have that many computers... Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 16:52:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65C816A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501CF13C4BA for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from almarrie@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1024993uge for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:52:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m24xGxkY/epOrafWzyQqKI6fD3hOxOfY0p/0gPnqQ7M7N59SOBxL7Wigm8oGCibItovxb2lDpI+09Fth/lJ8Rs7d7LrJbKgo9b1WCS5C7ySP88dGRAcVl4ZQ2oe00GH/i7Bt1Wzsg4KHu7FUEnuzUv3Hmx7LXOfSvgNtaYxwQxc= Received: by 10.67.103.7 with SMTP id f7mr7974356ugm.1169484758958; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.255.10 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:52:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <499c70c0701220852x73f91825w4b9f610a8abfc887@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:52:34 +0000 From: "Abdullah Al-Marrie" To: "B. Cook" In-Reply-To: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:52:40 -0000 On 1/22/07, B. Cook wrote: > I'm inheriting an older network and I'm trying to update it.. > > cvsup to 6_2.. > > Doing a build kernel && install kernel > > then reboot and build world && install world && mergemaster -p if needed > > then rebuild the kernel and reinstall it.. > > right? > > I couldn't see anything major in UPDATING.. am I missing something? > > Thanks in advance. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I think .. #cd /usr/src #make cleanworld #mergemaster -p #make buildworld #make buildkernel #make installkernel #reboot #cd /usr/src #make installworld #mergemaster -iU #reboot -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 17:38:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77C816A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: from web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5732713C4C7 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from redtick@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 3326 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2007 17:38:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20070122173856.3324.qmail@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MrIhgx9gG64rRsH+A5yNP0wjVRWZLZ+b1VaW2KDlQ7MwGmyWNFRSZopvqxpw2Nl0nNm5hLTSyyG4nkzYDKjji2zOqTgs8JbVFR9wInR92j9hgWj45kBWuj23rsNt3XQwvP/SmhEr+oHG99wun2h6bldpV9RMVdXMgjzz7G4P2F4=; X-YMail-OSG: OrCSTiUVM1lQh3Kjb63xFZyWXj8N5UYU6h95fV9vzaT95yDlHrfoJfTjGPLlISG2U.gXGS_TCQ-- Received: from [75.41.234.82] by web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:38:56 PST Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:38:56 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Busby To: help help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ibm t22 xorg problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:38:57 -0000 I'm having problems with xorg on an IBM t22 using 6.2 freebsd. The video card shows to be an S3 savage, but the savage driver is broken (blank screen on startx) so I am using the vesa driver. It works fine untill I drop out of X, the screen goes blank, keyboard and mouse become unresponsive. I've done quite a bit of searching but have not found anything to help with the problem. I've enabled the dri option in xorg.conf as some suggest, but it does not help. Any ideas?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 17:44:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB20916A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from smtp.enternet.hu (smtp.enternet.hu [62.112.192.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0AB13C45B for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nagylzs@freemail.hu) Received: from [62.112.214.111] (helo=[172.16.0.43]) by smtp.enternet.hu with esmtpa (Exim 4) id 1H93DV-0002V9-Bu; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:25 +0100 Message-ID: <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:26 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TmFneSBMw6FzemzDsyBac29sdA==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "B. Cook" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> In-Reply-To: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:44:27 -0000 B. Cook wrote: > I'm inheriting an older network and I'm trying to update it.. > > cvsup to 6_2.. > > Doing a build kernel && install kernel > > then reboot and build world && install world && mergemaster -p if needed > > then rebuild the kernel and reinstall it.. > > right? > > I couldn't see anything major in UPDATING.. am I missing something? First, you should update your system to RELENG_5_5. Then probably you can try to update to RELENG_6_2. It is always good to update to the latest minor before you update to a different major version. By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating from 4 to 5 is much easier.) Many will suggest (including me) to install your new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your programs and users, if possible. Best, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:14:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29316A404 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D8C13C469 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:14:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H93hU-0001st-IZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.7 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <61775.192.168.11.7.1169489724.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: /etc problems when upgrading to FBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:14:37 -0000 Hello, Today I have tried to upgrade my FBSD 6.1-stable release to 6.2. All went well up to the point when I had to use mergemaster -cv. It was my first encounter with mergemaster and I was a bit unsure what to do with files in /etc. For some that I know I have not customized, I pressed i for install, for some I pressed m, then , then q and i to install the merged files (although - shame on me I was not aware what is acutally being merged - it was a bit too technical and I was a bit too scared :). With some files I pressed d. Anyway, when I rebooted the machine, I found a lot of warnings like this: Loading configuration files source_rc_confs: not found Entropy harvesting:/etc/rc: Warning: $harvest_interrupt is not set properly - see rc.conf(5) /etc/rc: Warning: &harvest_ethernet is not set properly - see rc.conf(5) These warnings were numerous and all of them referred to /etc/rc. The rc.conf file was not changed during the update process. But most services (those listed in warnings) did not start. I had no connection with the outside world and the machine was not pingable. Fortunately, I had a backup of /etc so I moved /etc to /etc-bad, copied the data from backup and rebooted. Everything worked well except the fact that I was forced to boot in single user mode. And I could not change it. It then turned out to be an error in /etc/rc.d/early.sh or a similar file. When I copied it from /etc-bad, I was able to boot normally and enjoy the system. My question is what I messed up? Was this something during mergemaster phase? If not, then what else could have gone wrong? Many thanks for your advice and thanks for FBSD 6.2 :)! Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:16:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64BB16A407 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8C713C47E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:16:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l0MIG5ox016097; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:07 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200701212156.48294.kirk@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <200701212156.48294.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701221916.05116.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: Help me pick a replacement graphics card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:16:13 -0000 On Monday 22 January 2007 04:56, Kirk Strauser wrote: > My aging GeForce MX 400 is dying and I want to replace it with something a > bit more modern. My desktop is running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Asus A7V (Via > chipset) motherboard with a 1.4GHz Athlon. This is more of a hardward > question than software, although pointers to any FreeBSD-specific driver > gotchas would be appreciated. > > Basically, I want to run a few OpenGL apps (particular the "Second Life" > client, which works perfectly under Linux emulation), so I pretty much have > to use the "nvidia" driver and not the open "NV" driver. The old card's > performance was fine for my purposes, so almost much anything at all newer > should be OK. Therefore, I don't want to spend a lot of money on this. > However, I don't want to buy a card so old that NVidia will drop support > for it in the next driver upgrade, as they did with this current card. > > My motherboard has an AGP 4x slot that the "nvidia" driver wants to run in > 2x mode because it doesn't like the Via chipset. Now, it seems like there > are precious few AGP 4x cards available these days; most look like 8x. Are > those backward compatible all the way to 2x? Google returns plenty of > authoritative-sounding hits on both sides. My understanding is that all AGP cards should be backwards and forwards compatible as long as the motherboard supports the correct voltage. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port section compatibility. > > Is there anything else I should be looking for? Any specific models you > might recommend? I can recommend the GeForce 6200 (http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce6200_agp.html) It's compatible with AGP 4x. I have this one running on a KM400A chipset from VIA, using the freebsd agp driver. Performance is excellent. I used to have this one running without AGP support from the driver, but performance was still pretty good. In europe you can purchase the GeForce 6200 for less than EUR. 50,- (65 USD). Hope this helps, Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567B316A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA95213C442 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0MIMkEH005653; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:22:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070122122140.025ba5b0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:22:35 -0600 To: David Schulz , questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.c om> References: <037FAB79-B890-46CE-9522-E0A7EE58661F@tca-cable-connector.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:23:25 -0000 Check your card's firmware, most by default are set to sleep on inactivity. Make sure your's isn't set to do this. -Derek At 09:12 PM 1/21/2007, David Schulz wrote: >Hello all, > >every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue, >sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet >Connectivity. My Machines just run some Service, and have no >Keyboard / Mouse or Monitor. When the Machine goes down, eg, i am >unable to ping it from another Machine on the Network, even >restarting the machine using "reboot" will not fix the Problem. The >only way to fix it is to login as root, and issue a "ifconfig vr0 >down && ifconfig vr0 up". Then a dmesg Message appears : "vr0: Using >force reset command.", and after that i can successfully ping the >machine again. I have had this Problem on different machines with >different Network Cards, on different Ethernet Cables, and with >FreeBSD Versions 5.5 until 6.1. > >Can anyone please help me to understand and possibly even fix this >Problem? > >Thanks a lot, >David >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:25:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E6116A408 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from calais.chapman.edu (calais.chapman.edu [192.77.116.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA3313C474 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from [206.211.142.181] (ist181.chapman.edu [206.211.142.181]) by calais.chapman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509AD2EECD for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:25:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B5019B.6070804@chapman.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:25:31 -0800 From: Jay Chandler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chapman-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Chapman-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Chapman-MailScanner-From: chandler@chapman.edu X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Page Faulting Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:25:34 -0000 One of our servers is restarting at random. Not entirely sure what causes it-- hopefully someone here can help me track it down (I suspect hardware at some point, potentially the Broadcom NIC). This is what's in the messages log-- what else can I provide y'all with? Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: cpuid = 2; apic id = 06 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault virtual address = 0x104 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066c731 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xe4f99c90 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xe4 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: f99c9c Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 Jan 22 10:20:58 montreal syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu Today's Excuse: excess surge protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:32:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC05A16A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92CF13C428 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 26504 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 18:32:06 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2007 18:32:06 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 20BE428423; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) To: Garrett Cooper References: <45B4C9F0.4000000@u.washington.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:32:04 -0500 In-Reply-To: <45B4C9F0.4000000@u.washington.edu> (Garrett Cooper's message of "Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:28:00 -0800") Message-ID: <44odoqdiaj.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot0 Bootloader questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:32:06 -0000 Garrett Cooper writes: > 2 questions: > -I remember seeing an option where you could show only a few slices at > the bootloader, but I forget what command modifies that. Does anyone > know what it might be? > -Is there any way to adjust the timeout for the bootloader? See boot0cfg(8). -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 18:48:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6358016A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F207713C441 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE22B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.43.113]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8DE60416C for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:48:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 6FD1E15213; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:48:25 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:48:25 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169491705 62249 192.168.100.11 (22 Jan 2007 18:48:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:25 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:48:28 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:54:40 -0900 Jeff Mohler wrote: One polite request: Would you please quote properly? I know this is not the usenet, but quoting serves a purpose and should make reading you question/comment easier. > If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we > only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from > back in the day..im willing to learn. In the good ol' days HDs weren't divided up into many partitions. They were usually too small to be of much good then. That actually began when the space that single HDs had became bigger and therefore single HDs could function almost as two or three on the same system. If an error on a filesystem accurs that can take down the entire system if all you have is /. The idea is to limit the amount of damage that can be done to a system by dividing the data up intelligently. Usually most write actions are on /tmp and /var. So if the power goes down before you can shut down the system cleanly, the chances are high that you will have errors on these file systems. If they are all on / then that's bad news. But think about what would happen if data in /tmp ist lost because of a filesystem error. Exactly: nobody cares! Different partitions also have the advantage that they can be mounted with different options, have different block sizes, more or less inodes or can be encrypted. Here are a few ideas as to why I divide my drives up, including some of the reasons why I divided the drives up the way I showed. / ist usually mounted with synchronous writing only (and not soft updates). That is usually relatively slow but doesn't matter on /. You don't want to mess up this filesystem or you could end up not being able to start the system at all. It's best to keep this filesystem small. /usr contains all the programs files, usually the ports and source tree too. Writing to this filesystem isn't that frequent but fast access is definately wanted. /tmp and /var contain quickly changing, usually not too important data. Fast access is important and writing is very frequent. If the system crashes or the filesystems are not unmounted cleanly you usually have errors on these filesystems. A swap partition is there for obvious reasons. :-) /var/spool/news used to contain a lot of files (one file per article) and required more inodes than the other filesystems. This can apply today aswell if you choose byfile storage of news. /home is useful to stop the users filling up /usr, which can be quite a pain. I know this could also be done by using disc quota. /home/christian is mirrored and encrypted as I keep all my personal stuff on there like (e)mail, bank stuff and things from work. But also personal things like my personal diary. I don't want to encrypt all my system as that slows down access dramatically. And it's completely useless waisting CPU-cycles on decrypting the executables of KDE, Firefox and OO. /usr/obj can be put in a seperate filesystem to increase performance. The information in there isn't too important so if anything gets lost because of a power out while doing a make buildworld, just erase it and start over. The performance can be increased if the HDs are the bottleneck. The idea is to read from one drive containing /usr/src and writing to another containing /usr/obj. This partition can be optimized for fast writes rather than safety. I have mounted this filesystem with async. Is my concept a little clearer now? Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:00:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192FA16A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EB513C44C for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE22B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.43.113]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24843DE80B1 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 3FE241521B; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:00:15 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:00:15 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169492415 62249 192.168.100.11 (22 Jan 2007 19:00:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:00:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:00:20 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:53:20 -0800 Garrett Cooper wrote: > One good reason I can think of is to partition (not the tech definition > but the traditional definition, "to divide") filesystems such that if > one person fills up "/", it won't cause a program that needs to write to > "/var" or "/tmp" problems, which in the case of "/var" can bring down > entire systems and infrastructures (happened before where I was working > as IT when a CUPS server ran out of space on /var). That is a good point. > Other than that.. not really sure. Maybe some of the older guard on the > list know why. Actually, you don't really have to be that old to understand the reasons. They still apply today as they did "back then". I know the main reason that speaks against the concept - I was a young too you know. :-) It's the reluctance of deciding how much space to allocate to a certain system. What happens if I need more in /usr and I have given /var too much. If you only have one big filesystem / you don't have *this* problem, as the amount of space you have can be shifted freely according to the current need. But in following this concept you also buy in a few other problems. Remember that one of the foundations of Unix is security and the idea that one user can't screw up the system for all others. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:03:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3A516A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: from glitch.carpetsmoker.net (carpetsmoker.xs4all.nl [82.93.23.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B4E13C480 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpetsmoker@carpetsmoker.net) Received: by glitch.carpetsmoker.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E25DB839; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:03:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:03:15 +0100 From: Martin Tournoij To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122190314.GA17262@glitch.carpetsmoker.net> References: <200701212156.48294.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701212156.48294.kirk@strauser.com> User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Help me pick a replacement graphics card? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:03:13 -0000 On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 09:56:42PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > My aging GeForce MX 400 is dying and I want to replace it with something a bit > more modern. My desktop is running FreeBSD 6.2 on a Asus A7V (Via chipset) > motherboard with a 1.4GHz Athlon. This is more of a hardward question than > software, although pointers to any FreeBSD-specific driver gotchas would be > appreciated. > > Basically, I want to run a few OpenGL apps (particular the "Second Life" > client, which works perfectly under Linux emulation), so I pretty much have > to use the "nvidia" driver and not the open "NV" driver. The old card's > performance was fine for my purposes, so almost much anything at all newer > should be OK. Therefore, I don't want to spend a lot of money on this. > However, I don't want to buy a card so old that NVidia will drop support for > it in the next driver upgrade, as they did with this current card. > > My motherboard has an AGP 4x slot that the "nvidia" driver wants to run in 2x > mode because it doesn't like the Via chipset. Now, it seems like there are > precious few AGP 4x cards available these days; most look like 8x. Are those > backward compatible all the way to 2x? Google returns plenty of > authoritative-sounding hits on both sides. > > Is there anything else I should be looking for? Any specific models you might > recommend? > -- > Kirk Strauser It doesn't matter if you mainboard is 4X AGP and your card is 8X AGP, it's backward compatible. The cheapest card available in most stores today is the geforce FX5200 (128MB), so, any new card you buy today will do fine. This card will do fine for your current applications, but you may want to buy a better, more expensive one, because hardware requirements go up all the time (especially for games). It all depends on your budget... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:10:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CD516A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E7113C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE22B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.43.113]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED3B604157 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:10:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id A53C71521B; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:10:15 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:10:15 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> <17844.85.335537.317957@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20070122134235.GB1382@polands.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169493015 62249 192.168.100.11 (22 Jan 2007 19:10:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:10:18 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 ^^^^^^ Where did you get to create slices. When I installed this system (Sun U60) sysinstall didn't offer the possibility of creating a slice at all. The only devices of this sort that I can create are da0x and da1x - no 's'! Is this due to the SPARC64 plattform or did I miss something? Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:12:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035C516A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx3.netclusive.de (mx3.netclusive.de [89.110.132.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFF113C459 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE22B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.43.113]) by mx3.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950F6604157 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:12:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 9CEA515213; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:12:04 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:12:04 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <45B3E1FA.80301@u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169493124 62249 192.168.100.11 (22 Jan 2007 19:12:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:12:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:12:07 -0000 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:58:18 -0800 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Why create so many partitions? You can use slices to your benefit and > you wouldn't use up your allocatable partitions on the disk's MBR. The point is that I wasn't given the chance to create any slices. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:16:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4A816A401 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A2B13C45E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7772B1A4D8D; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6674751587; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:16:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:16:32 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jay Chandler Message-ID: <20070122191632.GA12975@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <45B5019B.6070804@chapman.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B5019B.6070804@chapman.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Page Faulting Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:36 -0000 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:25:31AM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: > One of our servers is restarting at random. Not entirely sure what=20 > causes it-- hopefully someone here can help me track it down Often it's bad hardware, especially if only manifesting onone server out of several with the same hardware and workload. > (I suspect=20 > hardware at some point, potentially the Broadcom NIC). >=20 > This is what's in the messages log-- what else can I provide y'all with? The backtrace from the crashdump, or at the very least look up the IP in the kernel.debug. See the developers handbook chapter on kernel debugging. Kris >=20 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in=20 > kernel mode > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: cpuid =3D 2; apic id =3D 06 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x104 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault code =3D supervisor=20 > read, page not present > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0xc066c7= 31 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: stack pointer =3D 0x28:0xe4f99c= 90 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: frame pointer =3D 0x28:0xe4 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: f99c9c > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0,=20 > limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: processor eflags =3D resume, IOPL = =3D 0 > Jan 22 10:20:58 montreal syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Jay Chandler > Network Administrator, Chapman University > 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu > Today's Excuse: excess surge protection=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFtQ2QWry0BWjoQKURAoqmAKDzCDnCnhKdrR/6GWH1FBUXMyRd3QCeNUiU YI+CYZFSTxdxfLK5bje/giY= =e2HW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:21:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3859816A409 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from mx1.netclusive.de (mx1.netclusive.de [89.110.132.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05FB13C4C3 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@nermal.rz1.convenimus.net) Received: from nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (p3EE22B71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.226.43.113]) by mx1.netclusive.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BFADE8045 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:21:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by nermal.rz1.convenimus.net (Postfix, from userid 8) id 58B3915213; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:21:44 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Path: not-for-mail From: Christian Baer Newsgroups: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:21:44 +0100 (CET) Organization: Convenimus Projekt Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <61775.192.168.11.7.1169489724.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: garfield.rz1.convenimus.net X-Trace: nermal.rz1.convenimus.net 1169493704 62249 192.168.100.11 (22 Jan 2007 19:21:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@convenimus.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:21:44 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: /etc problems when upgrading to FBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:21:47 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:15:24 +0100 (CET) Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > My question is what I messed up? Was this something during mergemaster > phase? If not, then what else could have gone wrong? Yes, you probably messed up there. Mergemaster shows you - I'll call them suggestions - for the config files. Look at them and look at what the changes would be. '+' means this line will be added, '-' means this line will be removed, using your current config as reference. Installing all the new config files without even looking at them can be ugly. I didn't watch out once an lost groups, users and a few other things. It is usually safe to just install the new versions of files that you haven't changed, but look at those files that you have changed. The 'm' stands for 'merge' which means you are presented both the old an the new version. And for each line that is different you can choose whether to stick to the old version or to adopt the new one. This way you create a completely new file that is up to date while still containing the changes you need for your system. Regards Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:34:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4463916A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sozler82@yahoo.com) Received: from web58407.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web58407.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A2A113C45D for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sozler82@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92389 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2007 19:34:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HnmC82dgqG9XUnKqpSWh++n/e+vzFImmQ/e21FuaS+bTkn+73sQOGN/YjdnSqU2vdqvR7BnPAGzEJtmqN/+Ug/hZXQmcpyxVqdtksBG4g8NcAjlgNZfxfFqORJX5IRpBOutxSnA2pWt71MXxN7f/mKpH2Qddup9dLj3ZbcdC9Ik=; X-YMail-OSG: qzMp6lYVM1mx9fE_5NVtNm.BcWTrdvT9n11LUKkgCUAZPYoGwD7qi8Ce01IHlslPPg-- Received: from [131.107.0.104] by web58407.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:34:51 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: Serdar Ozler To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <314091.91926.qm@web58407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:34:52 -0000 Ok, it looks like the fix was checked in on Jan 4, 2007 (http://lists.freeb= sd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-January/073285.html).=0A=0AI wonder if there = is a way to build a CD with that fix included.=0A=0AThanks,=0ASerdar=0A=0A-= ---- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Serdar Ozler =0ATo: = freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 6:16:12 PM= =0ASubject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem=0A=0A=0AIt turned out that DP965LT uses= Marvell 88SE6101 controller for PATA, not a JMicron one. So, that bug does= not apply. Is there a workaround I could use for that one?=0A=0AThanks,=0A= Serdar=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Serdar Ozler =0ATo: josh.carroll@psualum.com=0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= =0ASent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:26:54 PM=0ASubject: Re: ATAPI CDROM = Problem=0A=0A=0AYes, the motherboard is Intel DP965LT (which uses P965) wit= h a Core 2 Duo processor.=0A=0AThanks,=0ASerdar=0A=0A----- Original Message= ----=0AFrom: Josh Carroll =0ATo: Serdar Ozler =0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Wednesday, Jan= uary 17, 2007 4:55:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: ATAPI CDROM Problem=0A=0A=0A> I am = trying to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my new machine and have a problem. I boot = using 6.2-disc1, but when I try to choose CD/DVD as installation media, the= installer says: "No CD/DVD drives found".=0A=0AIs this by chance a newer C= ore 2 Duo system with a motherboard with an=0AIntel p965 chipset? If so, I = think this is a known bug. I know at=0Aleast one other person who was unabl= e to install FreeBSD 6.2 on a p965=0Aboard. The installer does not see the = PATA hdd or the ATAPI CD device=0Aon the JMicron controller.=0A=0AI'm not s= ure if it's related, but it sounds similar to this PR I submitted here:=0A= =0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D103602=0A=0AOthers might be= able to offer workarounds for getting the installer to=0Awork (since my DV= D drive works for normal things, just not ATAPICAM).=0A=0AJosh=0A__________= _____________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org maili= ng list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo = unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________________________________________= _____________________=0ANeed a quick answer? 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Messenger'= s low PC-to-Phone call rates.=0Ahttp://voice.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 19:55:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A0516A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:55:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1D113C441 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:55:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1H95GM-0000ha-HH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:55:30 +0100 Received: from 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.41.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:55:30 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:55:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:55:02 +0100 Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72FEFF8311086CD87AD52C5E" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:55:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig72FEFF8311086CD87AD52C5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Fremantle wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near > future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. Nothing wrong with that... > I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper > motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major > problems with this board. A desktop board? http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/DG965OT/index.htm ? Those usually have top-of-the-line devices (SATA, Net, sound) which are not widely supported, or even stable. I've seen (and sometimes built) several Intel Xeon 51xx systems that work without problem with server boards. > 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard > video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. For example something like this: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm > Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, > certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. > Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the > documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable. The server version of Core 2, aka Xeon 51xx, works fine in both 32-bit and 64-bit mode. --------------enig72FEFF8311086CD87AD52C5E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtRacldnAQVacBcgRAmcQAJ4/MgSQGCFo0K93AsCud/sBEpMpBwCfWTNx 25rEpKO7A6cNTuSG+VoJ0dk= =Q0Tg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72FEFF8311086CD87AD52C5E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 20:52:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD23D16A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552AD13C44C for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so17591nfc for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:52:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=f9/KGbvsnnkihulKZ6FRcVy63qgSoTSN5rEX1fD603DG1/typhZrEc5xBekVcSJZe6DlH/ZmpWl6gjd3asfFCa7XM80UlS+JtIwqbH/bQkhjktEV0PN1muCG4a7EtwEaHvhBzBss+4WjYrs0RIhSXnlGvkvJZSSaKOp1R7aDzXM= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr5440758bud.1169485025355; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.13.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:57:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:57:05 -0800 From: patrick To: "Matthew Seaman" In-Reply-To: <45436449.4020509@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061028025626.GA39172@skytracker.ca> <2B8A4ACE-ACE3-44D0-B40B-26D96D43A4E8@shire.net> <17731.22324.706536.159980@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45436449.4020509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to know what DNS server is being used X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:52:48 -0000 On 10/28/06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On recent FreeBSD, the resolver actually iterates through the listed > nameserver lines in order, sending the query out to each in turn until > it gets a response. It used to be that the resolver would wait for the > full 30s DNS timeout before trying the next server (hence the cry dreaded > by sysadmins everywhere that "the Internet is slow today"), but nowadays Is there any way to configure this 30 second delay for older versions of FreeBSD (eg. 4.11)? Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:12:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48E116A404 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorge@salk.edu) Received: from riis.snl.salk.edu (riis.snl.salk.edu [198.202.70.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9259C13C4C9 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jorge@salk.edu) Received: from merckx.snl.salk.edu (merckx.snl.salk.edu [198.202.70.90]) by riis.snl.salk.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E741975D7; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:44:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge Aldana X-X-Sender: jorge@merckx.snl.salk.edu To: Per olof Ljungmark In-Reply-To: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> Message-ID: <20070122123255.K82394@merckx.snl.salk.edu> References: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:12:11 -0000 I know this one. The debug option is on, you need to turn it off, the file is here: /var/db/ports/firefox/options Once the debug variable is removed re-compile and it will be quiet, here's my settings in that file: WITH_NEWTAB=true WITH_SMB=true WITHOUT_DEBUG=true WITH_LOGGING=true WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=true Jorge On Sun, 21 Jan 2007, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Glenn Becker wrote: >> >> All - >> >> I've been away from FreeBSD for some time and have been updating my >> installation, getting used to the ways of portupgrade, etc. >> >> Have noticed that Firefox keeps emitting what sound like console beeps - I >> haven't established much of a pattern for these though it always happens >> when I close the app. >> >> Is there a way to kill these? Apologies in advance if this is a dopey >> question. Obviously more an annoyance than anything. > > perhaps -questions is more appropriate... > > Anyway, that makes two of us - mine beeps too - when sending and reading > mails. No idea why though, sorry. > > Anyone? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:14:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16A216A400 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6803613C45E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: (qmail 96210 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 21:14:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (fr0zen@sbcglobal.net@71.143.226.57 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 21:14:57 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: EAIx4cMVM1kGtKGl6MIqVsWy_sc_KfscdDgU0Yb70mb7lEgz_MQqAPp3805va207hAbMrT_UovvkZ0KGFQnbL_.GsC.ABlS9tGCJthHB1nW.p55k.UVIctY8Nv1bJFZy_w5hgodMQz_beU5YWoGlAjwj7g-- Message-ID: <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:15:09 -0600 From: Peter Pluta User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> In-Reply-To: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:14:58 -0000 Anyone? Peter Pluta wrote: > I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a > freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every > night at 5am (it's below). > > Shell script: > > #!/bin/sh > . `dirname $0`/settings.inc > destination=**.***.***.***::backup > if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ > $destination > > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > pipe (32) > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at > io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] > > Dmesg on the box only shows this: > em0: promiscuous mode enabled > em0: promiscuous mode disabled > > But that is probably pretty old. > > What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they > don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files. > > Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:16:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B0416A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from mail.attiksystem.ch (f29.attiksystem.ch [212.147.59.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207EC13C4C3 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from poweredge.attiksystem.ch (poweredge.attiksystem.ch [10.0.0.29]) by mail.attiksystem.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0MLFqWR097970; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:15:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:15:52 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Message-ID: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? Thread-Index: Acc+YSnJOQVQ882iSO2h+4t6NHgrkwACNIDw References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> From: "Philippe Lang" To: "Ivan Voras" , X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.49 on 10.0.0.111 Cc: Subject: RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:16:03 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? >=20 > If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. > For example something like this: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong? Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says: typedef enum { em_undefined =3D 0, em_82542_rev2_0, em_82542_rev2_1, em_82543, em_82544, em_82540, em_82545, em_82545_rev_3, em_82546, em_82546_rev_3, em_82541, em_82541_rev_2, em_82547, em_82547_rev_2, em_82571, em_82572, em_82573, em_80003es2lan, em_ich8lan, em_num_macs } em_mac_type; Philippe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:21:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D09116A403 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.ORG [192.94.73.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C40F13C45E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from burningc@sdf.lonestar.org) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (burningc@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.1]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0MLL5g9002503; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:05 GMT Received: (from burningc@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.8/8.12.8/Submit) id l0MLLUTT013182; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:30 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Becker To: Jorge Aldana In-Reply-To: <20070122123255.K82394@merckx.snl.salk.edu> Message-ID: References: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> <20070122123255.K82394@merckx.snl.salk.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:11 -0000 Jorge - > I know this one. The debug option is on, you need to turn it off, the > file is here: /var/db/ports/firefox/options I'll try this out when I get home - thanks! GB +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:25:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CF216A4F1 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F03113C54E for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com (vanquish.pgh.priv.collaborativefusion.com [192.168.2.61]) (SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:25:19 -0500 id 00056415.45B52BC0.00013EC3 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:25:19 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Peter Pluta Message-Id: <20070122162519.cc3a0838.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> In-Reply-To: <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> Organization: Collaborative Fusion X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:25:21 -0000 In response to Peter Pluta : > > Peter Pluta wrote: > > I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a > > freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every > > night at 5am (it's below). > > > > Shell script: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > . `dirname $0`/settings.inc > > destination=**.***.***.***::backup > > if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ > > $destination > > > > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > > pipe (32) > > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at > > io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] > > > > Dmesg on the box only shows this: > > em0: promiscuous mode enabled > > em0: promiscuous mode disabled > > > > But that is probably pretty old. > > > > What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they > > don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files. > > > > Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly > > appreciated. I don't know what your problem is, but I can make some recommendations on debugging it. *) Are you running it verbosely when this happens? Crank the verbosity up as high as it will go on both the client and the server and see if anything shows up. Is the a DEBUG option available if you recompile? *) Got any network monitoring stuff available? Heavy packet loss? *) Try ktracing the process while it's running. Should narrow down the cause a good bit. Or maybe attach gdb to it. *) Try rsycing to a local directory to see if it still happens. That should narrow the problem down to either network or not. *) fsck your disks? Hope some of this is helpful. Generally, when I have mystery errors, I start with ktrace. If you're not familiar with it, ktrace can be a bit overwhelming, but it's got lotsa useful information. Same can be said for gdb. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:26:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D0716A481 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from calais.chapman.edu (calais.chapman.edu [192.77.116.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D00013C4B7 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chandler@chapman.edu) Received: from [206.211.142.181] (ist181.chapman.edu [206.211.142.181]) by calais.chapman.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499462E9AF; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B52BE7.2030803@chapman.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:25:59 -0800 From: Jay Chandler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Pluta References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> In-Reply-To: <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chapman-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Chapman-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Chapman-MailScanner-From: chandler@chapman.edu X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:26:09 -0000 Peter Pluta wrote: > Anyone? > > Peter Pluta wrote: >> I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a >> freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every >> night at 5am (it's below). >> >> Shell script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> . `dirname $0`/settings.inc >> destination=**.***.***.***::backup >> if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ >> $destination >> >> After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: >> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: >> Broken pipe (32) >> rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) >> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at >> io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] >> >> Dmesg on the box only shows this: >> em0: promiscuous mode enabled >> em0: promiscuous mode disabled >> >> But that is probably pretty old. >> >> What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they >> don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few >> files. >> >> Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Looks like the 2k3 box is resetting the connection for whatever reason. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu Today's Excuse: excess surge protection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:41:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D18316A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregoryba@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC95B13C4C2 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregoryba@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so29185nfc for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MY5cO3et3voZ6Y3WSiYgkVaqyc50ew0bM2ngyzTAo188TS3KTkahiiYo2I59SNCSpOhjzD3DJe5uHd5z9ryD44QeNNlI3MKeXdPHBlOCliY7VsSdYg5RlGAtzDeAsaYyGLN284UkGItqnPIGg0++w43wRE4W+Pj+4Q53IPCImE4= Received: by 10.48.43.19 with SMTP id q19mr19001nfq.1169502075174; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.202.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39ed86f90701221341r64592914x21ad24e6fbe561e1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:15 -0800 From: "Greg Albrecht" To: "Peter Pluta" In-Reply-To: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:41:17 -0000 On 21/01/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > pipe (32) > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(613) > [sender=2.6.9] i had a similar problem and the fix ended up being pretty simple: make sure the windows box has the right duplex setting, eg: 100full -g -- Greg Albrecht (gregoryba@gmail.com) An Indie, Hip Hop and IDM Podcast: The Letter G http://theletterg.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:42:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC9F716A407 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F45F13C478 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.8) id l0MLgWcU025060; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:42:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:42:32 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: patrick Message-ID: <20070122214232.GB4120@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20061028025626.GA39172@skytracker.ca> <2B8A4ACE-ACE3-44D0-B40B-26D96D43A4E8@shire.net> <17731.22324.706536.159980@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45436449.4020509@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to know what DNS server is being used X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:42:35 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 22), patrick said: > On 10/28/06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >On recent FreeBSD, the resolver actually iterates through the listed > >nameserver lines in order, sending the query out to each in turn > >until it gets a response. It used to be that the resolver would > >wait for the full 30s DNS timeout before trying the next server > >(hence the cry dreaded by sysadmins everywhere that "the Internet is > >slow today"), but nowadays > > Is there any way to configure this 30 second delay for older versions > of FreeBSD (eg. 4.11)? You should be able to apply the changes made in rev1.31 of /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c ; the commit log for that revision is revision 1.31 date: 2003/12/07 12:32:24; author: murray; state: Exp; lines: +20 -0 Add support for timeout: and attempts: resolver options. Submitted by: Paul Vixie / ISC MFC After: 1 week Apparently the MFC never happened :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 21:59:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833C516A402 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143C513C4A6 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:59:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1H97Cm-0000tN-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:59:56 +0100 Received: from 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([89.172.41.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:59:56 +0100 Received: from ivoras by 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:59:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:59:38 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD69B81E177C321F3AE197344" X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89-172-41-77.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) In-Reply-To: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Sender: news Subject: Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:59:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD69B81E177C321F3AE197344 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philippe Lang wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >=20 >>> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >>> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? >> If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. >> For example something like this: >> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm= >=20 > This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not > supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong? >=20 > Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:... I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to me. Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :) --------------enigD69B81E177C321F3AE197344 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtTPRldnAQVacBcgRAutfAJ4s1RwE7YcxHyH3RphepuRyqYZfsQCfQ6jo GvbGce6tXlRCFrmtd4+LrKo= =DOPW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD69B81E177C321F3AE197344-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 22:22:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FEA16A407 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A3613C4C8 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0MMLu6A035530; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:21:56 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <45B538FE.50409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:21:50 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patrick References: <20061028025626.GA39172@skytracker.ca> <2B8A4ACE-ACE3-44D0-B40B-26D96D43A4E8@shire.net> <17731.22324.706536.159980@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <45436449.4020509@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFA44B78862D5B0C0B70BA08C" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:22:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2478/Mon Jan 22 17:07:10 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: how to know what DNS server is being used X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:22:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFA44B78862D5B0C0B70BA08C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable patrick wrote: > On 10/28/06, Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 >> On recent FreeBSD, the resolver actually iterates through the listed >> nameserver lines in order, sending the query out to each in turn until= >> it gets a response. It used to be that the resolver would wait for th= e >> full 30s DNS timeout before trying the next server (hence the cry drea= ded >> by sysadmins everywhere that "the Internet is slow today"), but nowada= ys >=20 > Is there any way to configure this 30 second delay for older versions > of FreeBSD (eg. 4.11)? Nope. It's specified in the DNS RFCs, and consequently built into the client side resolver stuff in libc. 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X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1H97ZT-0001cV-7u 76554d53e652bae7047d45f0e75c1f0f Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:23:24 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:10:15PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: > > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > > /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > > /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > ^^^^^^ > > Where did you get to create slices. When I installed this system (Sun > U60) sysinstall didn't offer the possibility of creating a slice at all. > The only devices of this sort that I can create are da0x and da1x - no 's'! > > Is this due to the SPARC64 plattform or did I miss something? It is almost certainly due to your platform. Slices (aka partitions in MS-DOS) are pretty much specific to the IBM PC (and derivatives thereof.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 22 22:26:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1C516A404 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A32E13C469 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-29-241.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.29.241]:60831 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H97cH-0004Ur-6Z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:26:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 24796 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 23:26:15 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 23:26:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 30205 invoked by uid 1001); 22 Jan 2007 23:26:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:26:15 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Nagy =?iso-8859-1?B?TOFzemzz?= Zsolt Message-ID: <20070122222615.GB30161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nagy =?iso-8859-1?B?TOFzemzz?= Zsolt , "B. Cook" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1H97cH-0004Ur-6Z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1H97cH-0004Ur-6Z f5c0de16c10f77a65452ae22f6018b40 Cc: "B. Cook" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:26:18 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:44:26PM +0100, Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > B. Cook wrote: > >I'm inheriting an older network and I'm trying to update it.. > > > >cvsup to 6_2.. > > > >Doing a build kernel && install kernel > > > >then reboot and build world && install world && mergemaster -p if needed > > > >then rebuild the kernel and reinstall it.. > > > >right? > > > >I couldn't see anything major in UPDATING.. am I missing something? > First, you should update your system to RELENG_5_5. Then probably you=20 > can try to update to RELENG_6_2. It is always good to update to the=20 > latest minor before you update to a different major version. >=20 > By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating from= =20 > 4 to 5 is much easier.) It is the other way around in my experience. Going from 4.x to 5.x is quite a bit of work and not for the faint of heart. From 5 to 6 is not much more difficult than upgrading from (say) 5.4 to 5.5 or 6.1 to 6.2 > Many will suggest (including me) to install your=20 > new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your programs and users,= =20 > if possible. --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 00:41:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2AE16A40F for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF8A13C45A for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA36CE510; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22FF323E89; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N0fsFm022635; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N0frIr022623; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:53 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:53 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: Doug Hardie Message-ID: <20070123004153.GB22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: <3C109E4B-5636-498F-A7C2-0C728ED0E81D@lafn.org> <20070112132821.17286c49@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Use of CVS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:41:56 -0000 On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:35:43PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2007, at 18:28, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > >On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:35:38 -0800 > >Doug Hardie wrote: > > > >> Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated. > >>Thanks, > > > >I suggest you read the CVS Red book, in particular the section on > >branch > >management and merging. > >http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html > > > >I agree with other posters, you may want to move to newer SCM > >systems... I've > >been using SVN for a while now, and couldn't be happier. There's > >also a SVN red > >book , with sections for current CVS users to understand the > >differences. > > Thanks. I have started reading them. Don't forget the Cderquist! It should have been installed along with the CVS binary and man pages. I haven't used Subversion myself, but have plenty of experience with release management using CVS. If you start using branches, make sure you keep complete and accurate documentation of your branching and merging. Also, make sure you understand what will and will not get merged in certain situations. For example, it's fairly common to make the following mistake: 1) You main development branch is on the trunk. 2) You create a branch for some development and add some new directories 3) You prepare for a merge by updating to the latest version of the trunk with something like "cvs -q up -PAd" 4) You perform your merge operation: "cvs -q up -j DEV_BRANCH" You will not have merged your new directories to the trunk. This is because you pruned empty directories in step 3 and CVS will only examine directories that exist in your working copy during a merge. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 00:45:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757A916A469 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50ADD13C4E9 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BDF8A5C86; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20378323E8E; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N0IBD0009985; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N0IBbV004321; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: Peter Thoenen Message-ID: <20070123001811.GA22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: <459D2195.5040504@pixelhammer.com> <470134.51008.qm@web51902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <470134.51008.qm@web51902.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: DAve , Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Sun Fire x2100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:45:23 -0000 On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:27:15PM -0800, Peter Thoenen wrote: > --- DAve wrote: > > Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Sun Fire X2100? Any caveats I should > > know > > about? > > I don't recommend them if you plan to use as a file server. They have > an issue with randomly rebooting under a large network load with > thousands of open connections. Have seen this on my system and have > have had a dozen or so folk email me with the identical problem. > > -Peter I've had the same problem, but with x86 systems (specifically an IBM xSeries system and a home-built AMD64 system) running FreeBSD 6.0 (IIRC). These systems were on a home cable modem connection and there were pretty regular break-in attempts. When reviewing logs, I'd see attempts to brute-force logins and passwords for the ftp and ssh services. I eventually had to turn ftpd off since it seemed guaranteed to panic the box during one of these cracking attempts. sshd seemed to handle things better, but I have had one panic occur. I haven't tried 6.2 to see if I encounter similar problems. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 00:57:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5793216A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A9613C45E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6478A5C93; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6884323E8D; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N0vs49012400; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N0vsmY003832; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: Jay Chandler Message-ID: <20070123005754.GC22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: <45AC1847.6000308@chapman.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45AC1847.6000308@chapman.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Install from CVS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:57:55 -0000 On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:11:51PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: > Is it possible to install (instead of upgrading) FreeBSD from my local > CVS repository? Looking to find a good way to automate installations, > and figured I'd start there. > > -- > Jay Chandler > Network Administrator, Chapman University > 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu > Today's Excuse: emissions from GSM-phones I really need to do the same sort of thing for the *BSD systems I admin. You may want to look at Ghost 4 Unix, although for the record I have not yet tried it. Our Solaris installs have been automated using Jumpstart and cfengine, but we haven't worked out a similar system for the BSDs. A quick and dirty hack that's worked for me thus far is to mirror your primary disk with gmirror, then pull the second drive and just insert it into a new system. You'll then want to modify the typical files with the new IP, hostname, etc. If you end up using gmirror on the new system, be sure you do a "gmirror forget" to erase the metadata stored at the end of the disk. If you forget to do this, you'll run into some issues when to try to create the new mirror. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 01:17:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C70116A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A5013C480 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E241DCE509; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFA7323E8A; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N1GxCq023845; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N1Gxxl012616; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:17:00 -0000 On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 11:33:47AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > I'm tired of win2k crashing, and we won't even go into my opinion of vista's > strongarm marketing tactics (read: changing my hardware means I have to pay > again? they can keep their OS). > > Problem is, I've got 320GB of accumulated detrius on ntfs volumes to > migrate. I see there is some good r/w ports for ntfs, so I'm willing to > evaluate that to see if it's stable (shoestring budget here obviously - this > is my personal stuff only). > > Forging ahead, I get ready to start playing the mounting game, but > lo-and-behold, suddenly I have 4 disks whereas in windows I had two. Now I > praise FreeBSD for it's superior intellect here, but now I have a problem. > I want two 160GB mirrored volumes, not 4 unmirrored ones. The RAID is an > ASUS P5DR1-VM motherboard with a ULI raid chipset onboard. Very nice setup > for the money. > > Is this normal? Am I going to break my mirror if I mount a single disk? If > so, how do I mount a mirror? > > Thanks, > Steve > > -- > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 It sounds like your onboard RAID chip is either not supported, or the appropriate driver is not being loaded. Can you post the output of dmesg? Also, be aware that you may not really have a hardware RAID chip. Many (most?) times the onboard chips simply make multiple disks look like a single LUN to the operating system; they also require driver support. Real hardware RAID chips/cards tend to be expensive, proprietary, don't require an OS driver and include a battery backup system for data in the RAID cache should the system lose power. You may want to read up on gmirror. -Damian ps. I've got at least a half-dozen different x86 system boards that include these crappy RAID chips from vendors like nVidia, Intel, Adaptec, LSI, etc. Typically you get closed-source, Windows-only driver support. pps. If you do want real hardware RAID support under FreeBSD, I've had great experiences with the Promise arrays (m500 and m300) and one of the PCI cards (I'd have to check on the exact model). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 01:23:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB9016A406 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CEE13C442 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:23:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4303DCE50F; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0EA323E98; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N1NRrs015614; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N1NR9u000863; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:27 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:27 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: hal Message-ID: <20070123012327.GE22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:23:28 -0000 On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:31:22PM -0700, hal wrote: > This came down from above?! > > Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month > by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March) > and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November). > > > What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be > daylight savings 2007 ready? > > Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25 > > Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10 > > hal You can grab the latest zoneinfo file from http://www.nih.gov/ and recompile it with /usr/sbin/zic. Yeah, you could use the ports tree, but I prefer using methods that are a little more portable across operating systems. I've got like two dozen different OS releases of various flavors to update with the new timezone information. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 01:33:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0939716A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dprobd02.vailsys.com (dprobd02.vailsys.com [63.149.73.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91D713C4B7 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by dprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8751D8A5C77; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39047323E8A; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N1WxUj023808; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:59 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N1Ww2r013058; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:58 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:58 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: "gs_stoller@juno.com" Message-ID: <20070123013258.GF22569@dfwdamian.vail> References: <20070117.184525.20085.1692098@webmail29.nyc.untd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070117.184525.20085.1692098@webmail29.nyc.untd.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, George.Vanev@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Execute script every time a specified user logs in (FreeB SD 6.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:33:00 -0000 > > On Jan 17, 2007, at 18:46 , George Vanev wrote: > > >> On 1/17/07, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wednesday 17 January 2007 11:49, George Vanev wrote: > >>>> Every time user X (for example) logs in the system I want to execute some script. > >>>> The user must not have the permission to change this behavior. > >>>> Also the script must be run as root. > >>>> Something like crontab, but depending on logins, not time > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas?! > >>> If this user logs in via SSH you can use the ForceCommand keyword in > >>> sshd_config(5) to execute your script. The root part can be > >>> achieved with sudo(8) . > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Pieter de Goeje > >>> > >> > >> Thanks, nice idea. But it seems I can't use it. > >> Let me be more specific: > >> If user X logs in then I want to run "/usr/bin/script -aq /path/user_X" > >> The file user_X must be protected from modifying/deleting > >> > >> Could this be done?! > >> > >> -- > >> George Vanev > A simple technique is to have /etc/profile check for user X and for him > source another file (containing the commands which X can't modify). Have root > own this file and allow all others to only read and execute it. sudo is unnecessary. > This is inelegant in that it has a general and widely used file look for special cases, > but that is something that almost all programs do. This inelegancy is present in other > places in UNIX . FWIW if you're really feeling up to it you can simply craft your own shell for the user. You can write a short C program that forks a process, and call execve() with your script in the child, and then execve() with their desired shell in the parent. I'm probably mistaken about this, but I didn't think /etc/profile was necessarily executed should someone login via ssh. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 02:31:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAC116A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:31:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg) Received: from laspinas.global.net.pg (laspinas.global.net.pg [202.1.52.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B277513C44B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg) Received: from mail.pngharbours.com.pg (mail.pngports.com.pg [202.171.241.229]) by laspinas.global.net.pg (8.13.3/8.12.4) with ESMTP id l0N281F2003521 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:08:04 +1000 (PGT) (envelope-from Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg) X-SEF-DF5F1DF6-1D42-4B80-A7DE-85F1C16E3C94: 1 Received: from Unknown [200.200.176.196] by mail.pngharbours.com.pg - SurfControl E-mail Filter (5.0); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:00:48 +1000 To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003 Message-ID: From: Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:43:05 +1000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Domino01/SVR/PNGHL(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 01/23/2007 11:43:06 AM, Serialize complete at 01/23/2007 11:43:06 AM X-Virus-Scan: Clean X-Dubious-Status: No, hits=0.292 required=5 tests=SPF_SOURCE_KNOWN, NO_SIZE_SPECIFIED, HELO_INCORRECT, HTML_MESSAGE, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART, NO_REAL_NAME server=laspinas.global.net.pg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: cache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:31:51 -0000 I am running FreeBSD 4.4 and currently have the following displayed as output from the command df FileSystem 1K blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 63503 63214 -4791 108% / In issuing the following command: du / | sort -n the following 5 files are listed as biggest in size / /usr /usr/local /usr/local/squid /usr/local/squid/cache I would like some assistance as to how to go about removing/clearing the files, in this case I assume the cache logs would have to be removed to clear up the space in /. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 02:37:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D07416A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krinklyfig@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6038E13C4BD for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krinklyfig@speakeasy.net) Received: (qmail 11409 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 02:07:55 -0000 Received: from 209-188-117-232.taosnet.com (HELO smogmonster.local) (krinklyfig@[209.188.117.232]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jan 2007 02:07:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:07:55 -0700 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123020755.GA73904@smogmonster.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: paragui-1.0.4 fails - wants earlier version of libSDL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: krinklyfig@speakeasy.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:37:21 -0000 I've run into this problem since the ports freeze, still getting it now. As mentioned in this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-September/035572.html except that the answer here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-September/035573.html doesn't work. I don't know enough about libtool to understand which port is referencing the old version of libSDL. Here's the failure: ... Making all in data Making all in bindings Making all in test Making all in keyboard c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -c keyboard.cpp c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -c main.cpp /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=link c++ -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -pthread -o keyboard keyboard.o main.o -L../../src/.libs -lparagui -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -lSDL -pthread -lSDL_image -lexpat -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -lfreetype -lz -lstdc++ -lpng -ltiff -ljpeg mkdir .libs libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libSDL-1.1.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/local/lib/libSDL-1.1.la' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4/test/keyboard. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4/test. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.57570.1 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=paragui-1.0.4_5 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.0.4_5 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ---> Skipping 'games/asc' (asc-1.16.3.0) because a requisite package 'paragui-1.0.4_5' (x11-toolkits/paragui) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-toolkits/paragui (paragui-1.0.4_5) (unknown build error) * games/asc (asc-1.16.3.0) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 33 ignored, 1 skipped and 1 failed It's also happening when trying to upgrade from openoffice.org-2.0.3 to openoffice.org-2.1.0. Am running: FreeBSD smogmonster.local 6.1-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Sun Sep 10 16:20:43 MDT 2006 krinklyfig@smogmonster.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL61 i386 - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 02:46:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80EDD16A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51C13C428 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (a17-128-113-37.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0N2kCst023036; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay7.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id ADA4530046; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:12 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807125-a2a4fbb000006e4c-78-45b576f45f63 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 9C7513003D; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9DCBAEB0-931E-47B8-B02D-CB7782618ADA@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:11 -0800 To: Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cache logs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:46:13 -0000 On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 4.4 and currently have the following > displayed as > output from the command df > > > FileSystem 1K blocks Used Available Capacity > Mounted > on > /dev/ad0s1a 63503 63214 -4791 > 108% / > > > In issuing the following command: du / | sort -n the following 5 > files are > listed as biggest in size It's almost certain that you've got more partitions on that machine, and that the files under /usr are on another partition then the root partition. Try using "du -x /" to only consider files on the root partition without crossing filesystem mountpoints.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 03:10:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF8D16A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@p15178485.pureserver.info) Received: from p15178485.pureserver.info (ns.123-webhosting.de [212.227.63.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7C713C467 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@p15178485.pureserver.info) Received: by p15178485.pureserver.info (Postfix, from userid 30) id 09A9080EBD1; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:10:11 +0100 (CET) To: questions@freebsd.org From: Saint Zero MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20070123031011.09A9080EBD1@p15178485.pureserver.info> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:10:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Company Representative Is Needed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: saint_zr@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:10:14 -0000 Good Day Barry Travels and Tours Limited, An Asian Based Multinational Company seek the service of a liaison officer who would act as a medium of reaching our customers abroad. Your Job is to receive payment on our behalf and settle our clients with the payment. If you choose to work with us, you do not need to quite your present job, or have problems with your employers as this is on a part time basis. An agent commission would be paid to you on a weekly basis. Kindly reply so that i can provide you with more details. KINDLY INDICATE YOUR ACCEPTANCE BY FILLING THE BELOW FORM SO THAT WE CAN SEND YOU THE PAYMENT FOR IMMEDIATE PROGRESS. KINDLY SEND US: ==================================== 1. YOUR NAME: 2. YOUR FULL ADDRESS 3. 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CITY =================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 03:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E35E16A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E788E13C4DB for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bignose@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1470162wxc for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:14:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YFtf+BecbmiG42QfpAKTH4r60EWakQOfI8JTie/ii92YD8OGJRxfDOE/Bxyf4ShgswMJ2LYRmjRN58/LEFTLTnvrdd3eIgBLO7jCFxihqj+VeshWJLjiYIqyXywMz/C8rOpCB1Q1v2YYeXM2nKJWUH1FnNf0pTCGikZFpp9syGw= Received: by 10.90.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr7188418agc.1169522081296; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.70.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:14:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:14:41 -0500 From: "Jeff MacDonald" To: "Pieter de Goeje" In-Reply-To: <200701192211.41454.pieter@degoeje.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200701192211.41454.pieter@degoeje.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: php5-session port seems borked X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:14:42 -0000 > > -I/usr/ports/www/php5-session/work/php-5.2.0/ext/session/main > > -I/usr/ports/www/php5-session/work/php-5.2.0/ext/session > > -I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main > > -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend > > -I/usr/local/include/php/ext -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O -pipe > > My output differs significantly from your output, I guess you have removed the > first 100 lines of output here; if not you should probably do a 'make clean' > before 'make'. If that is not the case then I would try recompiling all php > related ports. > > - Pieter Well here's the thing, I was able to reproduce it on 2 separate machines both with full up to date ports, even after a make clean. And i got the same error whether i used portupgrade or just a plain make file... here is a script, just after a make clean http://preview2.interchange.ca/script.txt So I'm still at a loss. -- Unless otherwise indicated, anything I write is either garnered from experience or pulled out of my ass, depending on situational needs.. Jeff MacDonald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 03:28:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09BB16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@p15178485.pureserver.info) Received: from p15178485.pureserver.info (ns.123-webhosting.de [212.227.63.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918A13C4BB for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wwwrun@p15178485.pureserver.info) Received: by p15178485.pureserver.info (Postfix, from userid 30) id 05E0A80ED6C; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:54:51 +0100 (CET) To: questions@freebsd.org From: Saint Zero MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20070123025451.05E0A80ED6C@p15178485.pureserver.info> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:54:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Company Representative Is Needed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: saint_zr@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:28:36 -0000 Good Day Barry Travels and Tours Limited, An Asian Based Multinational Company seek the service of a liaison officer who would act as a medium of reaching our customers abroad. Your Job is to receive payment on our behalf and settle our clients with the payment. If you choose to work with us, you do not need to quite your present job, or have problems with your employers as this is on a part time basis. An agent commission would be paid to you on a weekly basis. Kindly reply so that i can provide you with more details. KINDLY INDICATE YOUR ACCEPTANCE BY FILLING THE BELOW FORM SO THAT WE CAN SEND YOU THE PAYMENT FOR IMMEDIATE PROGRESS. KINDLY SEND US: ==================================== 1. YOUR NAME: 2. YOUR FULL ADDRESS 3. 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CITY =================================== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 03:29:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E9216A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@revolt.com) Received: from mail.cow.org (neu.cow.org [66.94.69.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438AC13C44B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:29:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@revolt.com) Received: by mail.cow.org (Postfix, from userid 1014) id 3E6F2B8B3; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:10:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:16:22 -0500 From: chris neill To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123021622.GA39711@revolt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Resent-From: noise@revolt.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:10:25 -0500 Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Message-Id: <20070123031025.3E6F2B8B3@mail.cow.org> Cc: Subject: 6.2-REL w/ SuperMicro Pentium D board, installer problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:29:47 -0000 It is my understanding that the new Dualcore Pentiums fall under the auspices of the AMD64 port.. Anywho, whenever I try to run the bootonly installer, the boot stalls here: acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 If I run from an i386 kernel, everything is hunky-dorey. From dmesg: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (3391.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf64 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe49d,> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 3756916736 (3582 MB) avail memory = 3677409280 (3507 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 ... acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 238408MB (488259584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30392C) da1 at twa0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 100.000MB/s transfers da1: 953632MB (1953038336 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121571C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a em0: link state changed to UP I know the media works because I just used the same disc today to install 6.2-RELEASE on a Sun XFire X4200 (AMD Opteron). Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 04:11:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5301F16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from regulus.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BCFE13C467 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by regulus.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0N4B5xB082648 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:11:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:11:05 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701222211.05393.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on regulus.dfwlp.com Subject: gmirror setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:11:08 -0000 i just set up my first gmirror raid1, and... it was really simple. too simple. "ok... what did i skip or do wrong?", was my first thought. i follow the doc from onlamp.com: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 i did have one giant deviation tho, and im wondering if it really makes a difference. the article depicts creating the gmirror immediately following initial operating system install, but i did my example on a fully functioning system. other than that, i have 2 identical disks, and things seem to be working: castor# gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0 DEGRADED ad0 ad1 (33%) im sure im seeing less than the best performance since im using but a single ide channel, but other than that, is it feasible to insert an identical disk, and setup the gmirror at anytime a freebsd'er likes? also, the doc didnt mention it, but if you do use to differing disk sizes, obviously the smaller one should be ad0? and other than that, is there any difference in setting up gmirror if the second disk is larger? cheers, jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 04:24:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F96F16A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A45813C4E8 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N4OG8o015659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:24:17 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N4OGIn002314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:24:16 -0800 Message-ID: <45B58DEE.4060607@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:24:14 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B3E0D0.70005@u.washington.edu> <17844.85.335537.317957@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20070122134235.GB1382@polands.org> <20070122222320.GA30161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20070122222320.GA30161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.22.200933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:24:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:10:15PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: >> >>> # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# >>> /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 >>> /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 >> ^^^^^^ >> >> Where did you get to create slices. When I installed this system (Sun >> U60) sysinstall didn't offer the possibility of creating a slice at all. >> The only devices of this sort that I can create are da0x and da1x - no 's'! >> >> Is this due to the SPARC64 plattform or did I miss something? > > It is almost certainly due to your platform. Slices (aka partitions in > MS-DOS) are pretty much specific to the IBM PC (and derivatives thereof.) The first step covered the partitions in sysintall, the second step the slices. Maybe you did everything beforehand in fdisk before going to the "graphical" version of disklabel? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtY3uEnKyINQw/HARArY7AKCMJf6QQKkIQkDRTER9wa3n/oKV+QCeOIWK Nq96nEqdrAKDzF6ogGlzhYw= =rAnQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 04:42:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8172116A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E14F13C471 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N4gHFr020301 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:42:18 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N4gH8B018864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:42:17 -0800 Message-ID: <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:42:15 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.22.202933 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:42:18 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ajm wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: >> Andrew Gould wrote: >>> [snip] > > this is from a previous message in the thread: >> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > try as root or su to root > > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you using amd(8)? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtZICEnKyINQw/HARAjhPAKCpcrg9i5+pw3Hv/0qDqnrO7E3Y1gCeJHpN XJG0nd+4LjvIvNM8ZX5uiFo= =GTAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 05:16:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166CF16A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:16:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF3013C468 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from nox.student.utwente.nl (nox.student.utwente.nl [130.89.165.91]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id l0N5GQLr014915; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:16:26 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:16:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <200701192211.41454.pieter@degoeje.nl> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701230616.26196.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact helpdesk@ITBE.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Jeff MacDonald Subject: Re: php5-session port seems borked X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:16:33 -0000 On Tuesday 23 January 2007 04:14, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > Well here's the thing, I was able to reproduce it on 2 separate > machines both with full up to date ports, even after a make clean. And > i got the same error whether i used portupgrade or just a plain make > file... > > here is a script, just after a make clean > > http://preview2.interchange.ca/script.txt > > So I'm still at a loss. Hmm, perhaps your environment is corrupting the build. Try "env -i make". - Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 05:36:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DB216A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D464213C4A7 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm-freebsd-questions@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2007 00:36:35 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,223,1167627600"; d="scan'208"; a="394826587:sNHT26753704" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IDR08470; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-209-180.c3-0.bkl-ubr2.sbo-bkl.ma.static.cable.rcn.com (HELO sentinelchicken.net) ([207.172.209.180]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 00:36:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 11760 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 05:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO crichton.skepsi.net) (10.0.0.101) by aeryn.skepsi.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 05:36:32 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 11757 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:36:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:31 -0500 From: Jason Morgan To: Jonathan Horne Message-ID: <20070123053631.GD5367@sentinelchicken.net> References: <200701222211.05393.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701222211.05393.freebsd@dfwlp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A09020A.45B59EE1.0027,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.125/2006-10-10 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:36:39 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:11:05PM -0600, Jonathan Horne wrote: > i just set up my first gmirror raid1, and... it was really simple. too > simple. "ok... what did i skip or do wrong?", was my first thought. I thought the exact same thing. My previous experience was with vinum and, while it was great 4 years ago (props to grog), the simplicity of geom for simple setups was greatly needed. > i follow the doc from onlamp.com: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 > > i did have one giant deviation tho, and im wondering if it really makes a > difference. the article depicts creating the gmirror immediately following > initial operating system install, but i did my example on a fully functioning > system. other than that, i have 2 identical disks, and things seem to be > working: > > castor# gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 DEGRADED ad0 > ad1 (33%) > > im sure im seeing less than the best performance since im using but a single > ide channel, but other than that, is it feasible to insert an identical disk, > and setup the gmirror at anytime a freebsd'er likes? Whether or not this is the *right* way to do it or not, I am not sure, but I can tell you that this is basically what I did on two servers about 6 months ago and I've had no problems. I even had a drive failure. When I plugged the new one in, it rebuilt correctly and has been running well since. > also, the doc didnt mention it, but if you do use to differing disk sizes, > obviously the smaller one should be ad0? and other than that, is there any > difference in setting up gmirror if the second disk is larger? Yes, make the first disk the smaller one. I don't believe there is a difference in setup, but the extra space on the second drive (say, ad2) will be wasted. Cheers, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 06:29:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E57016A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2914D13C44B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0N6SU2H038297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:28:30 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.3/8.12.11) id l0N6TOKa037949; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:29:24 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:29:24 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200701230629.l0N6TOKa037949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: Mirroring FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:29:22 -0000 Hi, We are considering to set-up a mirror for FreeBSD in Thailand, how much disk space should we target for a full irror? Best regards, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 06:31:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9C716A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83BA413C467 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: (qmail 87523 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 06:31:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; b=SSBAewcvHMajYOTBD3nY28Yv3HsLP68pC8PRreEOuVZwiEJKwk5w+QpuMZp4pwnIFMdVAXW1fJRb9FUnRPv2efnuvJjWz5kD2Ao0nAef6WVHTIZb7sKawOe20H/yqFF9WR3MJUoNJCUmQnNn7kWRIrvTKb9FDyYPwtnrADPtjX4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net@70.129.18.230 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 06:31:38 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Wb.rMYsVM1nERE7B0ddZXoU8TemjoBR6Rw1QsnU_VgAA7kOKoGoM3AmlI3U3SCVfweMGHxpxSAQxsLefvuzIjdFSc7cO3gPTPTe90tEalPXHuAn1q2xeTj.LyGctMbjxCb6q0cI- Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:30:48 -0600 From: ajm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123063048.GA728@powerfull.bsd> References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:31:39 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ajm wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > >> Andrew Gould wrote: > >>> [snip] > > > > this is from a previous message in the thread: > >> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > > > try as root or su to root > > > > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could > resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. > Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. > > Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as > a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you > using amd(8)? > > - -Garrett > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFtZICEnKyINQw/HARAjhPAKCpcrg9i5+pw3Hv/0qDqnrO7E3Y1gCeJHpN > XJG0nd+4LjvIvNM8ZX5uiFo= > =GTAC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the following command as regular user: for my mp3 player [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player for my camera [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak for a memory card reader [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. Also use sudo to un mount the device: [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using amd(8). -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 07:15:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8F916A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from mail.attiksystem.ch (f29.attiksystem.ch [212.147.59.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA1713C455 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) Received: from poweredge.attiksystem.ch (poweredge.attiksystem.ch [10.0.0.29]) by mail.attiksystem.ch (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0N7Eqad002860; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from philippe.lang@attiksystem.ch) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:14:51 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Message-ID: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F4218CD41@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? Thread-Index: Acc+cPi/cCxc0sS7QnqxmR9WyDIHLAATJyvg References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> From: "Philippe Lang" To: "Ivan Voras" , X-Spam-Score: -1.44 () ALL_TRUSTED X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.49 on 10.0.0.111 Cc: Subject: RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:15:01 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Philippe Lang wrote: >> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >>=20 >>>> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >>>> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? >>> If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. >>> For example something like this: >>>=20 >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cf >> m=20 >>=20 >> This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK >> not supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm >> wrong?=20 >>=20 >> Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:... >=20 > I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some > other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to > me. Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :)=20 Hum, that means LAN works on a SuperMicro X7DBE motherboard? That's really good news! I was hesitating buying one, because of the supposed lack of 82563EB support, but I see I'm wrong. Can anyone explain how this chip could be supported, even if not mentioned in the driver itself and in the documentation? Ivan, do you have the opportunity to open your server, and check what LAN chip there is inside? Thanks, bye Philippe Lang From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 07:16:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F2E16A405 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D39213C4F2 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N7GunI009340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:16:56 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0N7GuNV012098 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:16:56 -0800 Message-ID: <45B5B666.5030801@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:16:54 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> <20070123063048.GA728@powerfull.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20070123063048.GA728@powerfull.bsd> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.22.230435 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:16:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ajm wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ajm wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: >>>>> Andrew Gould wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>> this is from a previous message in the thread: >>>>> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 >>>> try as root or su to root >>>> >>>> # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could > resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. > Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. > > Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as > a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you > using amd(8)? > > -Garrett > Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) > I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the > following command as regular user: > for my mp3 player > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player > for my camera > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak > for a memory card reader > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader > Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. > You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory > so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. > Also use sudo to un mount the device: > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 > NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using > amd(8). That's not an absolute solution though, because it should work as a regular user (maybe with a bit of fenaggling). Besides, installing sudo is a security risk anyhow.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtbZmEnKyINQw/HARAjMJAJwPrVm8VI64gdwBwtDOrDmxO+Cv4gCfQzXT eudjUIzKZtXf9g3khIaK84k= =oY+M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 07:35:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE30316A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDB213C4A7 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41187CE506; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:35:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6AD323E90; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:35:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0N7Z6h9010761; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:35:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id l0N7Z6p9025362; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:35:06 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:35:06 -0600 From: Damian Wiest To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20070123073506.GB6053@dfwdamian.vail> References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:35:07 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:16:59PM -0600, Damian Wiest wrote: [snip] > Real hardware RAID chips/cards tend to be expensive, > proprietary, don't require an OS driver and include a battery backup > system for data in the RAID cache should the system lose power. I don't know what I was thinking, of course the hardware RAID systems require drivers. -Damian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 08:41:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830416A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eyede.com) Received: from smtp.mortis.net.nz (203-167-147-189.cable.telstraclear.net [203.167.147.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F26013C459 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eyede.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.mortis.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470A3F421; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:15:59 +1300 (NZDT) Received: from pandora.mortis.net.nz (pandora.mortis.net.nz [192.168.99.7]) by smtp.mortis.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CDA3F41E; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:15:56 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <45B5C437.7050309@eyede.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:15:51 +1300 From: Nigel Wohlers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (Macintosh/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200701230629.l0N6TOKa037949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200701230629.l0N6TOKa037949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mirroring FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:41:01 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > We are considering to set-up a mirror for FreeBSD in Thailand, how > much disk space should we target for a full irror? > > Best regards, > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html N From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 09:13:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8846116A404 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from bossdog.realss.com (bossdog.realss.com [211.157.108.128]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E39F13C465 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zhangweiwu@realss.com) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2E91C0006 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:37 +0800 (CST) Received: from bossdog.realss.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bossdog.realss.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03567-08 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:36 +0800 (CST) Received: from [218.193.55.195] (unknown [222.76.190.111]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bossdog.realss.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9431C0005 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:36 +0800 (CST) From: Zhang Weiwu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Real Softservice Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:02 +0800 Message-Id: <1169542022.6177.7.camel@bossdog.realss.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bossdog.realss.com Subject: laptop screen always shutdown if no keyboard interaction for several minutes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:13:09 -0000 Hello. I tried various ways to stop the laptop screen from being shutting down, as I use this screen to watch debug message of an application I am working on, I need monitor always on, no screensaver, no blank, no dpms etc. I cannot do it. I have tried: 1. set blanktime to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf 2. set saver to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf 3. start X server and run a terminal in it, run xset -dpms 4. check laptop BIOS setting (there is no setting for automatic blank time I have not tried: I. remove 'apm' from kernel (I didn't compile ACPI into kernel because this is an old notebook I am not sure if ACPI works, but I have compiled apm in kernel, which is not shown in dmesg and doesn't seem to work, e.g. 'shutdown -p' do not turn off the power) II. install Windows on the same computer to see if Windows can keep the monitor on. III. boot the system to FreeDOS and see if monitor keep turned up (to decide if LCD is turned off by hardware or software) Any suggestions? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 09:24:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD6C16A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE00213C442 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so547743ana for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:24:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=h9Gh0vZ1yVofh5jjshL70kQRvBlVCpr8FSrp0nlLSxz85qN2+M/+LefMnDn2i8bfyJ/ky6XMTkLlzhuUlEjwor4scbaYrK5Y2snhSIDgk7MpSEiuI9G4QYW5lcca2M79wRp51iLHTRwmj76bnhzv9YSW1oANF937tKQ7DgQdU3Q= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr207271hub.1169544248341; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:24:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:24:03 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "Zhang Weiwu" In-Reply-To: <1169542022.6177.7.camel@bossdog.realss.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1169542022.6177.7.camel@bossdog.realss.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e57b0624d6f9b724 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptop screen always shutdown if no keyboard interaction for several minutes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:24:10 -0000 On 1/23/07, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Hello. I tried various ways to stop the laptop screen from being > shutting down, as I use this screen to watch debug message of an > application I am working on, I need monitor always on, no screensaver, > no blank, no dpms etc. > > I cannot do it. I have tried: > 1. set blanktime to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf > 2. set saver to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf > 3. start X server and run a terminal in it, run xset -dpms > 4. check laptop BIOS setting (there is no setting for automatic > blank time > > I have not tried: > I. remove 'apm' from kernel (I didn't compile ACPI into kernel > because this is an old notebook I am not sure if ACPI works, but > I have compiled apm in kernel, which is not shown in dmesg and > doesn't seem to work, e.g. 'shutdown -p' do not turn off the > power) > II. install Windows on the same computer to see if Windows can keep > the monitor on. > III. boot the system to FreeDOS and see if monitor keep turned up (to > decide if LCD is turned off by hardware or software) > > Any suggestions? Try playing a movie with mplayer, it keeps the display on by default, I'm not sure how, but if it can than there's a way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 09:25:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6166E16A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giorgosfm@yahoo.gr) Received: from web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6DF413C474 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:25:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giorgosfm@yahoo.gr) Received: (qmail 90037 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2007 08:58:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.gr; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Uv2LsYIsawLgxaLygFdY/ZVnTx9QlfKOkYO9jsCv1b+Ng7ce216/tTZwWqI2YJly4sq2lsj1cxqjVuzRlv/eHN7r4BznNb+Fa1MyMX/jqULIfSDLgy5EAr6wKBD9Qlb6HYc8rjdXwnIV5nGVjFI+KypeyXC3zGfBd52oIWMelMw= ; Message-ID: <20070123085847.90035.qmail@web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1cji3esVM1mZB6iTFK5M5FmFwy20SygRUdzyWoR8YmYEd0bhv.ZcOu9aMyiyKs1oCcoW0eUMShdXFnNtJpMrtAHy5Qyy0StCDm.HeKoe.NA_k5oL047esMQvB4dLMoqo.OpZnqfbwbDP Received: from [88.218.32.125] by web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:58:47 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:58:47 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-7?q?=C3=E9=F9=F1=E3=EF=F2=20=D6=F9=F4=E5=E9=ED=EF=F0=EF=F5=EB?= =?iso-8859-7?q?=EF=F2?= To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-304251051-1169542727=:89571" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Does 82915PM/GMS support dri??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:25:30 -0000 --0-304251051-1169542727=:89571 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello there, i have a problem configuring dri support for my laptop (a celeron 1.5Ghz, with i915GM GMCH chipset and 768Mb memory).Does anyone knows firstly if there is a support for this chipset?If so, can you please check the glxinfo and dmesg and tell me what's wrong? Thanks for the time. --------------------------------- ×ñçóéìïðïéåßôå Yahoo! ÂáñåèÞêáôå ôá åíï÷ëçôéêÜ ìçíý ìáôá (spam); Ôï Yahoo! 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: rsync issues (Peter Pluta) 2. RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? (Philippe Lang) 3. Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... (Glenn Becker) 4. Re: rsync issues (Bill Moran) 5. Re: rsync issues (Jay Chandler) 6. Re: rsync issues (Greg Albrecht) 7. Re: how to know what DNS server is being used (Dan Nelson) 8. Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? (Ivan Voras) 9. Re: how to know what DNS server is being used (Matthew Seaman) 10. Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive (Erik Trulsson) 11. Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? (Erik Trulsson) 12. Re: Use of CVS (Damian Wiest) 13. Re: Sun Fire x2100 (Damian Wiest) 14. Re: Install from CVS? (Damian Wiest) 15. Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd (Damian Wiest) 16. Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11 (Damian Wiest) 17. Re: Subject: Re: Execute script every time a specified user logs in (FreeB SD 6.1) (Damian Wiest) 18. cache logs (Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg) 19. paragui-1.0.4 fails - wants earlier version of libSDL (Joshua Tinnin) 20. Re: cache logs (Chuck Swiger) 21. Company Representative Is Needed. (Saint Zero) 22. Re: php5-session port seems borked (Jeff MacDonald) 23. Company Representative Is Needed. (Saint Zero) 24. 6.2-REL w/ SuperMicro Pentium D board, installer problem? (chris neill) 25. gmirror setup (Jonathan Horne) 26. Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive (Garrett Cooper) 27. Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder (Garrett Cooper) 28. Re: php5-session port seems borked (Pieter de Goeje) 29. Re: gmirror setup (Jason Morgan) 30. Mirroring FreeBSD (Olivier Nicole) 31. Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder (ajm) 32. RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? (Philippe Lang) 33. Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder (Garrett Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:15:09 -0600 From: Peter Pluta Subject: Re: rsync issues To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anyone? Peter Pluta wrote: > I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a > freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every > night at 5am (it's below). > > Shell script: > > #!/bin/sh > . `dirname $0`/settings.inc > destination=**.***.***.***::backup > if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ > $destination > > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > pipe (32) > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at > io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] > > Dmesg on the box only shows this: > em0: promiscuous mode enabled > em0: promiscuous mode disabled > > But that is probably pretty old. > > What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they > don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files. > > Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:15:52 +0100 From: "Philippe Lang" Subject: RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? To: "Ivan Voras" , Message-ID: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? > > If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. > For example something like this: > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong? Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says: typedef enum { em_undefined = 0, em_82542_rev2_0, em_82542_rev2_1, em_82543, em_82544, em_82540, em_82545, em_82545_rev_3, em_82546, em_82546_rev_3, em_82541, em_82541_rev_2, em_82547, em_82547_rev_2, em_82571, em_82572, em_82573, em_80003es2lan, em_ich8lan, em_num_macs } em_mac_type; Philippe ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:21:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Becker Subject: Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... To: Jorge Aldana Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Jorge - > I know this one. The debug option is on, you need to turn it off, the > file is here: /var/db/ports/firefox/options I'll try this out when I get home - thanks! GB +-----------------------------------------------------+ Glenn Becker - burningc@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org +-----------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:25:19 -0500 From: Bill Moran Subject: Re: rsync issues To: Peter Pluta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122162519.cc3a0838.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In response to Peter Pluta : > > Peter Pluta wrote: > > I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a > > freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every > > night at 5am (it's below). > > > > Shell script: > > > > #!/bin/sh > > . `dirname $0`/settings.inc > > destination=**.***.***.***::backup > > if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination > > rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ > > $destination > > > > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > > pipe (32) > > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at > > io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] > > > > Dmesg on the box only shows this: > > em0: promiscuous mode enabled > > em0: promiscuous mode disabled > > > > But that is probably pretty old. > > > > What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they > > don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few files. > > > > Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly > > appreciated. I don't know what your problem is, but I can make some recommendations on debugging it. *) Are you running it verbosely when this happens? Crank the verbosity up as high as it will go on both the client and the server and see if anything shows up. Is the a DEBUG option available if you recompile? *) Got any network monitoring stuff available? Heavy packet loss? *) Try ktracing the process while it's running. Should narrow down the cause a good bit. Or maybe attach gdb to it. *) Try rsycing to a local directory to see if it still happens. That should narrow the problem down to either network or not. *) fsck your disks? Hope some of this is helpful. Generally, when I have mystery errors, I start with ktrace. If you're not familiar with it, ktrace can be a bit overwhelming, but it's got lotsa useful information. Same can be said for gdb. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:25:59 -0800 From: Jay Chandler Subject: Re: rsync issues To: Peter Pluta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45B52BE7.2030803@chapman.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Peter Pluta wrote: > Anyone? > > Peter Pluta wrote: >> I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a >> freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every >> night at 5am (it's below). >> >> Shell script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> . `dirname $0`/settings.inc >> destination=**.***.***.***::backup >> if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ >> $destination >> >> After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: >> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: >> Broken pipe (32) >> rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) >> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at >> io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] >> >> Dmesg on the box only shows this: >> em0: promiscuous mode enabled >> em0: promiscuous mode disabled >> >> But that is probably pretty old. >> >> What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they >> don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few >> files. >> >> Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Looks like the 2k3 box is resetting the connection for whatever reason. -- Jay Chandler Network Administrator, Chapman University 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu Today's Excuse: excess surge protection ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:41:15 -0800 From: "Greg Albrecht" Subject: Re: rsync issues To: "Peter Pluta" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <39ed86f90701221341r64592914x21ad24e6fbe561e1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 21/01/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: Broken > pipe (32) > rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(613) > [sender=2.6.9] i had a similar problem and the fix ended up being pretty simple: make sure the windows box has the right duplex setting, eg: 100full -g -- Greg Albrecht (gregoryba@gmail.com) An Indie, Hip Hop and IDM Podcast: The Letter G http://theletterg.org ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:42:32 -0600 From: Dan Nelson Subject: Re: how to know what DNS server is being used To: patrick Cc: Robert Huff , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070122214232.GB4120@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the last episode (Jan 22), patrick said: > On 10/28/06, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >On recent FreeBSD, the resolver actually iterates through the listed > >nameserver lines in order, sending the query out to each in turn > >until it gets a response. It used to be that the resolver would > >wait for the full 30s DNS timeout before trying the next server > >(hence the cry dreaded by sysadmins everywhere that "the Internet is > >slow today"), but nowadays > > Is there any way to configure this 30 second delay for older versions > of FreeBSD (eg. 4.11)? You should be able to apply the changes made in rev1.31 of /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c ; the commit log for that revision is revision 1.31 date: 2003/12/07 12:32:24; author: murray; state: Exp; lines: +20 -0 Add support for timeout: and attempts: resolver options. Submitted by: Paul Vixie / ISC MFC After: 1 week Apparently the MFC never happened :) -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:59:38 +0100 From: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Philippe Lang wrote: > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > >>> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >>> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? >> If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. >> For example something like this: >> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cfm > > This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK not > supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm wrong? > > Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:... I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to me. Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It used to be that the resolver would wait for the >> full 30s DNS timeout before trying the next server (hence the cry dreaded >> by sysadmins everywhere that "the Internet is slow today"), but nowadays > > Is there any way to configure this 30 second delay for older versions > of FreeBSD (eg. 4.11)? Nope. It's specified in the DNS RFCs, and consequently built into the client side resolver stuff in libc. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 250 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20070122/0b a51815/signature-0001.pgp ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:23:20 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive To: Christian Baer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122222320.GA30161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:10:15PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: > > > # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# > > /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 > > /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 > ^^^^^^ > > Where did you get to create slices. When I installed this system (Sun > U60) sysinstall didn't offer the possibility of creating a slice at all. > The only devices of this sort that I can create are da0x and da1x - no 's'! > > Is this due to the SPARC64 plattform or did I miss something? It is almost certainly due to your platform. Slices (aka partitions in MS-DOS) are pretty much specific to the IBM PC (and derivatives thereof.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:26:15 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? To: Nagy L?szl? Zsolt Cc: "B. Cook" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070122222615.GB30161@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 06:44:26PM +0100, Nagy Laszls Zsolt wrote: > B. Cook wrote: > >I'm inheriting an older network and I'm trying to update it.. > > > >cvsup to 6_2.. > > > >Doing a build kernel && install kernel > > > >then reboot and build world && install world && mergemaster -p if needed > > > >then rebuild the kernel and reinstall it.. > > > >right? > > > >I couldn't see anything major in UPDATING.. am I missing something? > First, you should update your system to RELENG_5_5. Then probably you > can try to update to RELENG_6_2. It is always good to update to the > latest minor before you update to a different major version. > > By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating from > 4 to 5 is much easier.) It is the other way around in my experience. Going from 4.x to 5.x is quite a bit of work and not for the faint of heart. From 5 to 6 is not much more difficult than upgrading from (say) 5.4 to 5.5 or 6.1 to 6.2 > Many will suggest (including me) to install your > new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your programs and users, > if possible. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:41:53 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: Use of CVS To: Doug Hardie Cc: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20070123004153.GB22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 08:35:43PM -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2007, at 18:28, Norberto Meijome wrote: > > >On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 11:35:38 -0800 > >Doug Hardie wrote: > > > >> Any suggestions on these approaches will be appreciated. > >>Thanks, > > > >I suggest you read the CVS Red book, in particular the section on > >branch > >management and merging. > >http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html > > > >I agree with other posters, you may want to move to newer SCM > >systems... I've > >been using SVN for a while now, and couldn't be happier. There's > >also a SVN red > >book , with sections for current CVS users to understand the > >differences. > > Thanks. I have started reading them. Don't forget the Cderquist! It should have been installed along with the CVS binary and man pages. I haven't used Subversion myself, but have plenty of experience with release management using CVS. If you start using branches, make sure you keep complete and accurate documentation of your branching and merging. Also, make sure you understand what will and will not get merged in certain situations. For example, it's fairly common to make the following mistake: 1) You main development branch is on the trunk. 2) You create a branch for some development and add some new directories 3) You prepare for a merge by updating to the latest version of the trunk with something like "cvs -q up -PAd" 4) You perform your merge operation: "cvs -q up -j DEV_BRANCH" You will not have merged your new directories to the trunk. This is because you pruned empty directories in step 3 and CVS will only examine directories that exist in your working copy during a merge. -Damian ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:18:11 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: Sun Fire x2100 To: Peter Thoenen Cc: DAve , Free BSD Questions list Message-ID: <20070123001811.GA22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:27:15PM -0800, Peter Thoenen wrote: > --- DAve wrote: > > Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Sun Fire X2100? Any caveats I should > > know > > about? > > I don't recommend them if you plan to use as a file server. They have > an issue with randomly rebooting under a large network load with > thousands of open connections. Have seen this on my system and have > have had a dozen or so folk email me with the identical problem. > > -Peter I've had the same problem, but with x86 systems (specifically an IBM xSeries system and a home-built AMD64 system) running FreeBSD 6.0 (IIRC). These systems were on a home cable modem connection and there were pretty regular break-in attempts. When reviewing logs, I'd see attempts to brute-force logins and passwords for the ftp and ssh services. I eventually had to turn ftpd off since it seemed guaranteed to panic the box during one of these cracking attempts. sshd seemed to handle things better, but I have had one panic occur. I haven't tried 6.2 to see if I encounter similar problems. -Damian ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:57:54 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: Install from CVS? To: Jay Chandler Cc: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20070123005754.GC22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:11:51PM -0800, Jay Chandler wrote: > Is it possible to install (instead of upgrading) FreeBSD from my local > CVS repository? Looking to find a good way to automate installations, > and figured I'd start there. > > -- > Jay Chandler > Network Administrator, Chapman University > 714.628.7249 / chandler@chapman.edu > Today's Excuse: emissions from GSM-phones I really need to do the same sort of thing for the *BSD systems I admin. You may want to look at Ghost 4 Unix, although for the record I have not yet tried it. Our Solaris installs have been automated using Jumpstart and cfengine, but we haven't worked out a similar system for the BSDs. A quick and dirty hack that's worked for me thus far is to mirror your primary disk with gmirror, then pull the second drive and just insert it into a new system. You'll then want to modify the typical files with the new IP, hostname, etc. If you end up using gmirror on the new system, be sure you do a "gmirror forget" to erase the metadata stored at the end of the disk. If you forget to do this, you'll run into some issues when to try to create the new mirror. -Damian ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:16:59 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd To: Steve Franks Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Message-ID: <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 11:33:47AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > I'm tired of win2k crashing, and we won't even go into my opinion of vista's > strongarm marketing tactics (read: changing my hardware means I have to pay > again? they can keep their OS). > > Problem is, I've got 320GB of accumulated detrius on ntfs volumes to > migrate. I see there is some good r/w ports for ntfs, so I'm willing to > evaluate that to see if it's stable (shoestring budget here obviously - this > is my personal stuff only). > > Forging ahead, I get ready to start playing the mounting game, but > lo-and-behold, suddenly I have 4 disks whereas in windows I had two. Now I > praise FreeBSD for it's superior intellect here, but now I have a problem. > I want two 160GB mirrored volumes, not 4 unmirrored ones. The RAID is an > ASUS P5DR1-VM motherboard with a ULI raid chipset onboard. Very nice setup > for the money. > > Is this normal? Am I going to break my mirror if I mount a single disk? If > so, how do I mount a mirror? > > Thanks, > Steve > > -- > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > Staff Engineer > La Palma Devices, LLC > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > (520) 312-0089 It sounds like your onboard RAID chip is either not supported, or the appropriate driver is not being loaded. Can you post the output of dmesg? Also, be aware that you may not really have a hardware RAID chip. Many (most?) times the onboard chips simply make multiple disks look like a single LUN to the operating system; they also require driver support. Real hardware RAID chips/cards tend to be expensive, proprietary, don't require an OS driver and include a battery backup system for data in the RAID cache should the system lose power. You may want to read up on gmirror. -Damian ps. I've got at least a half-dozen different x86 system boards that include these crappy RAID chips from vendors like nVidia, Intel, Adaptec, LSI, etc. Typically you get closed-source, Windows-only driver support. pps. If you do want real hardware RAID support under FreeBSD, I've had great experiences with the Promise arrays (m500 and m300) and one of the PCI cards (I'd have to check on the exact model). ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:23:27 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: Daylight savings time / 6.1 and 4.11 To: hal Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20070123012327.GE22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 01:31:22PM -0700, hal wrote: > This came down from above?! > > Beginning in 2007, Daylight Savings Time will be lengthened one month > by starting three weeks earlier (2AM on the second Sunday in March) > and ending one week later (2AM on the first Sunday in November). > > > What patch levels do I need to be at for my 4.7 and 6.1 systems to be > daylight savings 2007 ready? > > Currently: 4.11-RELEASE-p25 > > Currently: 6.1-RELEASE-p10 > > hal You can grab the latest zoneinfo file from http://www.nih.gov/ and recompile it with /usr/sbin/zic. Yeah, you could use the ports tree, but I prefer using methods that are a little more portable across operating systems. I've got like two dozen different OS releases of various flavors to update with the new timezone information. -Damian ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:32:58 -0600 From: Damian Wiest Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Execute script every time a specified user logs in (FreeB SD 6.1) To: "gs_stoller@juno.com" Cc: pieter@degoeje.nl, George.Vanev@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123013258.GF22569@dfwdamian.vail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Jan 17, 2007, at 18:46 , George Vanev wrote: > > >> On 1/17/07, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wednesday 17 January 2007 11:49, George Vanev wrote: > >>>> Every time user X (for example) logs in the system I want to execute some script. > >>>> The user must not have the permission to change this behavior. > >>>> Also the script must be run as root. > >>>> Something like crontab, but depending on logins, not time > >>>> > >>>> Any ideas?! > >>> If this user logs in via SSH you can use the ForceCommand keyword in > >>> sshd_config(5) to execute your script. The root part can be > >>> achieved with sudo(8) . > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Pieter de Goeje > >>> > >> > >> Thanks, nice idea. But it seems I can't use it. > >> Let me be more specific: > >> If user X logs in then I want to run "/usr/bin/script -aq /path/user_X" > >> The file user_X must be protected from modifying/deleting > >> > >> Could this be done?! > >> > >> -- > >> George Vanev > A simple technique is to have /etc/profile check for user X and for him > source another file (containing the commands which X can't modify). Have root > own this file and allow all others to only read and execute it. sudo is unnecessary. > This is inelegant in that it has a general and widely used file look for special cases, > but that is something that almost all programs do. This inelegancy is present in other > places in UNIX . FWIW if you're really feeling up to it you can simply craft your own shell for the user. You can write a short C program that forks a process, and call execve() with your script in the child, and then execve() with their desired shell in the parent. I'm probably mistaken about this, but I didn't think /etc/profile was necessarily executed should someone login via ssh. -Damian ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:43:05 +1000 From: Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg Subject: cache logs To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am running FreeBSD 4.4 and currently have the following displayed as output from the command df FileSystem 1K blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 63503 63214 -4791 108% / In issuing the following command: du / | sort -n the following 5 files are listed as biggest in size / /usr /usr/local /usr/local/squid /usr/local/squid/cache I would like some assistance as to how to go about removing/clearing the files, in this case I assume the cache logs would have to be removed to clear up the space in /. Any assistance on this will be appreciated. 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Scanning of this message and addition of this footer is performed by SurfControl E-mail Filter software in conjunction with virus detection software. ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:07:55 -0700 From: Joshua Tinnin Subject: paragui-1.0.4 fails - wants earlier version of libSDL To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123020755.GA73904@smogmonster.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've run into this problem since the ports freeze, still getting it now. As mentioned in this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-September/035572.html except that the answer here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2006-September/035573.html doesn't work. I don't know enough about libtool to understand which port is referencing the old version of libSDL. Here's the failure: ... Making all in data Making all in bindings Making all in test Making all in keyboard c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -c keyboard.cpp c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/SDL -I/usr/local/include -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -c main.cpp /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/libtool --mode=link c++ -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wall -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -fno-exceptions -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -pthread -o keyboard keyboard.o main.o -L../../src/.libs -lparagui -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib -lSDL -pthread -lSDL_image -lexpat -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -lfreetype -lz -lstdc++ -lpng -ltiff -ljpeg mkdir .libs libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/local/lib/libSDL-1.1.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/local/lib/libSDL-1.1.la' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4/test/keyboard. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4/test. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui/work/paragui-1.0.4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/paragui. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.57570.1 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=paragui-1.0.4_5 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.0.4_5 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ---> Skipping 'games/asc' (asc-1.16.3.0) because a requisite package 'paragui-1.0.4_5' (x11-toolkits/paragui) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! x11-toolkits/paragui (paragui-1.0.4_5) (unknown build error) * games/asc (asc-1.16.3.0) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 33 ignored, 1 skipped and 1 failed It's also happening when trying to upgrade from openoffice.org-2.0.3 to openoffice.org-2.1.0. Am running: FreeBSD smogmonster.local 6.1-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Sun Sep 10 16:20:43 MDT 2006 krinklyfig@smogmonster.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL61 i386 - jt ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:46:11 -0800 From: Chuck Swiger Subject: Re: cache logs To: Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <9DCBAEB0-931E-47B8-B02D-CB7782618ADA@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jan 22, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Helen.Nanong@pngharbours.com.pg wrote: > I am running FreeBSD 4.4 and currently have the following > displayed as > output from the command df > > > FileSystem 1K blocks Used Available Capacity > Mounted > on > /dev/ad0s1a 63503 63214 -4791 > 108% / > > > In issuing the following command: du / | sort -n the following 5 > files are > listed as biggest in size It's almost certain that you've got more partitions on that machine, and that the files under /usr are on another partition then the root partition. Try using "du -x /" to only consider files on the root partition without crossing filesystem mountpoints.... -- -Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:10:11 +0100 (CET) From: Saint Zero Subject: Company Representative Is Needed. To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123031011.09A9080EBD1@p15178485.pureserver.info> Content-Type: text/plain Good Day Barry Travels and Tours Limited, An Asian Based Multinational Company seek the service of a liaison officer who would act as a medium of reaching our customers abroad. Your Job is to receive payment on our behalf and settle our clients with the payment. If you choose to work with us, you do not need to quite your present job, or have problems with your employers as this is on a part time basis. An agent commission would be paid to you on a weekly basis. Kindly reply so that i can provide you with more details. 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CITY =================================== ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:14:41 -0500 From: "Jeff MacDonald" Subject: Re: php5-session port seems borked To: "Pieter de Goeje" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > -I/usr/ports/www/php5-session/work/php-5.2.0/ext/session/main > > -I/usr/ports/www/php5-session/work/php-5.2.0/ext/session > > -I/usr/local/include/php -I/usr/local/include/php/main > > -I/usr/local/include/php/TSRM -I/usr/local/include/php/Zend > > -I/usr/local/include/php/ext -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O -pipe > > My output differs significantly from your output, I guess you have removed the > first 100 lines of output here; if not you should probably do a 'make clean' > before 'make'. If that is not the case then I would try recompiling all php > related ports. > > - Pieter Well here's the thing, I was able to reproduce it on 2 separate machines both with full up to date ports, even after a make clean. And i got the same error whether i used portupgrade or just a plain make file... here is a script, just after a make clean http://preview2.interchange.ca/script.txt So I'm still at a loss. -- Unless otherwise indicated, anything I write is either garnered from experience or pulled out of my ass, depending on situational needs.. Jeff MacDonald ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 03:54:51 +0100 (CET) From: Saint Zero Subject: Company Representative Is Needed. To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123025451.05E0A80ED6C@p15178485.pureserver.info> Content-Type: text/plain Good Day Barry Travels and Tours Limited, An Asian Based Multinational Company seek the service of a liaison officer who would act as a medium of reaching our customers abroad. Your Job is to receive payment on our behalf and settle our clients with the payment. If you choose to work with us, you do not need to quite your present job, or have problems with your employers as this is on a part time basis. An agent commission would be paid to you on a weekly basis. Kindly reply so that i can provide you with more details. KINDLY INDICATE YOUR ACCEPTANCE BY FILLING THE BELOW FORM SO THAT WE CAN SEND YOU THE PAYMENT FOR IMMEDIATE PROGRESS. KINDLY SEND US: ==================================== 1. YOUR NAME: 2. YOUR FULL ADDRESS 3. TELEPHONE NUMBER 4. PRESENT OCCUPATION 5. POSITION HELD 6. STATE 7. ZIP CODE 8. CITY =================================== ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:16:22 -0500 From: chris neill Subject: 6.2-REL w/ SuperMicro Pentium D board, installer problem? To: freebsd-questions@lists.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123021622.GA39711@revolt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It is my understanding that the new Dualcore Pentiums fall under the auspices of the AMD64 port.. Anywho, whenever I try to run the bootonly installer, the boot stalls here: acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 If I run from an i386 kernel, everything is hunky-dorey. From dmesg: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (3391.51-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf64 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe49d,> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 3756916736 (3582 MB) avail memory = 3677409280 (3507 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 ... acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 100.000MB/s transfers da0: 238408MB (488259584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30392C) da1 at twa0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 100.000MB/s transfers da1: 953632MB (1953038336 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121571C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a em0: link state changed to UP I know the media works because I just used the same disc today to install 6.2-RELEASE on a Sun XFire X4200 (AMD Opteron). Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Chris ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:11:05 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne Subject: gmirror setup To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <200701222211.05393.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i just set up my first gmirror raid1, and... it was really simple. too simple. "ok... what did i skip or do wrong?", was my first thought. i follow the doc from onlamp.com: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 i did have one giant deviation tho, and im wondering if it really makes a difference. the article depicts creating the gmirror immediately following initial operating system install, but i did my example on a fully functioning system. other than that, i have 2 identical disks, and things seem to be working: castor# gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/gm0 DEGRADED ad0 ad1 (33%) im sure im seeing less than the best performance since im using but a single ide channel, but other than that, is it feasible to insert an identical disk, and setup the gmirror at anytime a freebsd'er likes? also, the doc didnt mention it, but if you do use to differing disk sizes, obviously the smaller one should be ad0? and other than that, is there any difference in setting up gmirror if the second disk is larger? cheers, jonathan ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:24:14 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45B58DEE.4060607@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:10:15PM +0100, Christian Baer wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:42:36 -0600 Doug Poland wrote: >> >>> # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# >>> /dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0 >>> /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 >> ^^^^^^ >> >> Where did you get to create slices. When I installed this system (Sun >> U60) sysinstall didn't offer the possibility of creating a slice at all. >> The only devices of this sort that I can create are da0x and da1x - no 's'! >> >> Is this due to the SPARC64 plattform or did I miss something? > > It is almost certainly due to your platform. Slices (aka partitions in > MS-DOS) are pretty much specific to the IBM PC (and derivatives thereof.) The first step covered the partitions in sysintall, the second step the slices. Maybe you did everything beforehand in fdisk before going to the "graphical" version of disklabel? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtY3uEnKyINQw/HARArY7AKCMJf6QQKkIQkDRTER9wa3n/oKV+QCeOIWK Nq96nEqdrAKDzF6ogGlzhYw= =rAnQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:42:15 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ajm wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: >> Andrew Gould wrote: >>> [snip] > > this is from a previous message in the thread: >> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > try as root or su to root > > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you using amd(8)? - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtZICEnKyINQw/HARAjhPAKCpcrg9i5+pw3Hv/0qDqnrO7E3Y1gCeJHpN XJG0nd+4LjvIvNM8ZX5uiFo= =GTAC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:16:26 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje Subject: Re: php5-session port seems borked To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Jeff MacDonald Message-ID: <200701230616.26196.pieter@degoeje.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tuesday 23 January 2007 04:14, Jeff MacDonald wrote: > Well here's the thing, I was able to reproduce it on 2 separate > machines both with full up to date ports, even after a make clean. And > i got the same error whether i used portupgrade or just a plain make > file... > > here is a script, just after a make clean > > http://preview2.interchange.ca/script.txt > > So I'm still at a loss. Hmm, perhaps your environment is corrupting the build. Try "env -i make". - Pieter ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:36:31 -0500 From: Jason Morgan Subject: Re: gmirror setup To: Jonathan Horne Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123053631.GD5367@sentinelchicken.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:11:05PM -0600, Jonathan Horne wrote: > i just set up my first gmirror raid1, and... it was really simple. too > simple. "ok... what did i skip or do wrong?", was my first thought. I thought the exact same thing. My previous experience was with vinum and, while it was great 4 years ago (props to grog), the simplicity of geom for simple setups was greatly needed. > i follow the doc from onlamp.com: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 > > i did have one giant deviation tho, and im wondering if it really makes a > difference. the article depicts creating the gmirror immediately following > initial operating system install, but i did my example on a fully functioning > system. other than that, i have 2 identical disks, and things seem to be > working: > > castor# gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 DEGRADED ad0 > ad1 (33%) > > im sure im seeing less than the best performance since im using but a single > ide channel, but other than that, is it feasible to insert an identical disk, > and setup the gmirror at anytime a freebsd'er likes? Whether or not this is the *right* way to do it or not, I am not sure, but I can tell you that this is basically what I did on two servers about 6 months ago and I've had no problems. I even had a drive failure. When I plugged the new one in, it rebuilt correctly and has been running well since. > also, the doc didnt mention it, but if you do use to differing disk sizes, > obviously the smaller one should be ad0? and other than that, is there any > difference in setting up gmirror if the second disk is larger? Yes, make the first disk the smaller one. I don't believe there is a difference in setup, but the extra space on the second drive (say, ad2) will be wasted. Cheers, Jason ------------------------------ Message: 30 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:29:24 +0700 (ICT) From: Olivier Nicole Subject: Mirroring FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <200701230629.l0N6TOKa037949@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Hi, We are considering to set-up a mirror for FreeBSD in Thailand, how much disk space should we target for a full irror? Best regards, Olivier ------------------------------ Message: 31 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:30:48 -0600 From: ajm Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123063048.GA728@powerfull.bsd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ajm wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > >> Andrew Gould wrote: > >>> [snip] > > > > this is from a previous message in the thread: > >> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > > > try as root or su to root > > > > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could > resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. > Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. > > Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as > a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you > using amd(8)? > > - -Garrett > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFtZICEnKyINQw/HARAjhPAKCpcrg9i5+pw3Hv/0qDqnrO7E3Y1gCeJHpN > XJG0nd+4LjvIvNM8ZX5uiFo= > =GTAC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the following command as regular user: for my mp3 player [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player for my camera [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak for a memory card reader [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. Also use sudo to un mount the device: [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using amd(8). -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE i386 ------------------------------ Message: 32 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:14:51 +0100 From: "Philippe Lang" Subject: RE: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? To: "Ivan Voras" , Message-ID: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F4218CD41@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > Philippe Lang wrote: >> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: >> >>>> 2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, >>>> onboard video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs? >>> If you're willing to pay for it, server boards will suit you better. >>> For example something like this: >>> >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE.cf >> m >> >> This board ships with a 82563EB network controller, which is AFAIK >> not supported under FreeBSD yet. I haven't tested it, so maybe I'm >> wrong? >> >> Latest intel drivers vresion 6.2.9 says:... > > I can't reliably explain it. Maybe I've got an OEM version with some > other NIC or someone stuck an additional NIC in it before it got to > me. Or maybe the documentation or the driver are wrong :) Hum, that means LAN works on a SuperMicro X7DBE motherboard? That's really good news! I was hesitating buying one, because of the supposed lack of 82563EB support, but I see I'm wrong. Can anyone explain how this chip could be supported, even if not mentioned in the driver itself and in the documentation? Ivan, do you have the opportunity to open your server, and check what LAN chip there is inside? Thanks, bye Philippe Lang ------------------------------ Message: 33 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:16:54 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <45B5B666.5030801@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ajm wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ajm wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: >>>>> Andrew Gould wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>> this is from a previous message in the thread: >>>>> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 >>>> try as root or su to root >>>> >>>> # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could > resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. > Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. > > Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as > a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you > using amd(8)? > > -Garrett > Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) > I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the > following command as regular user: > for my mp3 player > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player > for my camera > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak > for a memory card reader > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader > Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. > You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory > so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. > Also use sudo to un mount the device: > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 > NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using > amd(8). That's not an absolute solution though, because it should work as a regular user (maybe with a bit of fenaggling). 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After upgrading from 6.2-PRERELEASE to 6.2-STABLE all my servers are terribly slow, the webservers use only 300Mb memory instead of the previous 1500Mb. Anything changed between those releases which affects the memory usage? FreeBSD uhura.pocketinfo.nl 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #9: Mon Jan 22 23:07:01 CET 2007 root@uhura.pocketinfo.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/UHURA i386 Resource limits (current): cputime infinity secs filesize infinity kB datasize 1572864 kB stacksize 131072 kB coredumpsize infinity kB memoryuse infinity kB memorylocked infinity kB maxprocesses 5547 openfiles 11095 sbsize infinity bytes vmemoryuse infinity kB last pid: 23922; load averages: 0.86, 0.87, 0.85 up 0+09:29:53 10:25:48 95 processes: 1 running, 94 sleeping CPU states: 13.9% user, 0.0% nice, 3.5% system, 0.1% interrupt, 82.6% idle Mem: 265M Active, 455M Inact, 182M Wired, 20K Cache, 112M Buf, 1100M Free My kernel config: machine i386 #i386 architecture cpu I686_CPU ident UHURA #Kernel config name maxusers 0 #Dynamically allocate resources # LSI Logic SAS controller device mpt device mfi # # Watchdog routines. # device puc #options MP_WATCHDOG #options SCHED_ULE #Use the new ULE kernel scheduler options SCHED_4BSD #Use the 4BSD kernel scheduler e options DEVICE_POLLING #Adds network robustness at slightly higher response times options HZ=1000 #Polls network ever 1 sec. options PREEMPTION #Allow kernel to be preempted by higher priority threads options ADAPTIVE_GIANT #This improves the performance of SMP machines options KDB #Kernel debugger options DDB #Support DDB. options GDB #Support remote GDB. makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options KDB_UNATTENDED #Automatic reboot on Kernel panic #options BEEP_ONHALT #Beeps the speaker multiple times when it is safe to power off the machine #options BEEP_ONHALT_COUNT=3 # Times to beep #options BEEP_ONHALT_PITCH=1500 # Default frequency (in Hz) #options BEEP_ONHALT_PERIOD=250 # Default duration (in msecs) options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #This prevents OS fingerprinting but breaks support for RFC1644 device pf #Use the OpenBSD packetfilter device carp #Enable CARP (OpenBSD) #options DUMMYNET #Dummynet for loadbalancing #options IPFIREWALL #Enable IPFW firewalling #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #Enable Logging of packets #options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #options IPDIVERT #Divert Sockets options IPSTEALTH #Support for stealth forwarding packets w/o touching the TTL of packets options SUIDDIR options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols # # PERFMON causes the driver for Pentium/Pentium Pro performance counters # to be compiled. See perfmon(4) for more information. # options PERFMON device acpi #ACPI support device agp #AGP GART support device apic #I/O apic device ipmi options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options MAXDSIZ=(1224*1024*1024) options DFLDSIZ=(1224*1024*1024) options MAXSSIZ=(128*1024*1024) # Optional: options MPTABLE_FORCE_HTT # Enable HTT CPUs with the MP Table options IPI_PREEMPTION # Broadcom Gigabit Ethernet device bce options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options UFS_ACL #Support for access control lists options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options QUOTA #Enable disk quotas options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PSEUDOFS #Pseudo-filesystem framework options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=1500 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI #options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console #options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options USER_LDT #Allow user-level control of i386 ldt #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SC_KERNEL_CONS_ATTR=(FG_LIGHTRED|BG_BLACK) # kernel message will be printed bright red on black background options SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR=(FG_BLACK|BG_RED) # The reversed message will be black on red background options MSGMNB=8192 # max # of bytes in a queue options MSGMNI=40 # number of message queue identifiers options MSGSEG=512 # number of message segments per queue options MSGSSZ=64 # size of a message segment options MSGTQL=2048 # max messages in system #options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #options ICmP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #install a CDEV entry in /dev options IPFILTER #Packetfilter options IPFILTER_LOG #Log denied connections #options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK #Per default block all traffic options VESA device sc options SC_PIXEL_MODE #options IPSEC #IPSec encryption req. for VPN #options IPSEC_ESP # #options IPSEC_DEBUG #debug for IPSEC - optional options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV #Install CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT #Giant mutex is adaptive options DDB options DDB_NUMSYM options SW_WATCHDOG #Software watchdog # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O #device mca #device eisa device isa device pci # ALTQ options #options ALTQ #alternate queueing options ALTQ_CBQ #class based queueing #options ALTQ_WFQ #weighted fair queueing #options ALTQ_FIFOQ #fifo queueing options ALTQ_RED #random early detection #options ALTQ_FLOWVALVE #flowvalve for RED (needs RED) options ALTQ_RIO #triple red for diffserv (needs RED) #options ALTQ_LOCALQ #local use options ALTQ_HFSC #hierarchical fair service curve #options ALTQ_JOBS #joint buffer management and scheduling #options ALTQ_IPSEC #check ipsec in IPv4 options ALTQ_CDNR #diffserv traffic conditioner #options ALTQ_BLUE #blue by wu-chang feng options ALTQ_PRIQ #priority queue #options ALTQ_NOPCC #don't use processor cycle counter #options ALTQ_DEBUG #for debugging # you might want to set kernel timer to 1kHz if you use CBQ, # especially with 100baseT # options added for ALTQ #options MROUTING # Multicast routing #pseudo-device atm #device en #options NATM #native mode atm # DAC960 Mylex SCSI RAID #device mlx # Floppy drives device fdc # If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy, # don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one: #device fdc0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device atapicam # SCSI emulation for IDE device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering #device ar # Promise IDE RAID # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device ciss # Compaq SmartRAID 5* series # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # splash screen/screen saver device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see LINT for more options) #device apm #device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's. REQUIRES COMPAT_AOUT! #device apm_saver # Requires APM # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support #device de # DEC/Intel 21143 based Fast Ethernet NICs / ZYNX ZX 3xx #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F device sk # Marvell Gigabit device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') #device bge # Broadcom BCM570x (``Tigon III'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface #device usb # USB Bus (required) #device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse Thanks for your help. Remy. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 11:07:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0EF16A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn.smith@vidicom.co.uk) Received: from mail.vidicom.co.uk (mail.vidicom.co.uk [212.159.81.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A89513C461 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn.smith@vidicom.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vidicom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14F62901E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:40:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vidicom.co.uk Received: from mail.vidicom.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vidicom.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JMHsxNT4Z5eC for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from glynpc (unknown [192.168.0.13]) by mail.vidicom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B78A28FFA for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <007701c73edb$29a5a530$0d00a8c0@glynpc> From: "Glyn Smith" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Cc: Subject: MoBillCash bill mobile phones direct for your content X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:07:09 -0000 Vidicom=92s MoBillCash the only billing platform for mobiles The mobile payment mechanism MoBillCash created by Vidicom has been = taken to another level and released as an easy to setup drag and drop = billing mechanism for webmasters of all abilities. 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The (Dell) > > > FreeBSD box I'm using at the moment cost $10 at a flea market, > ... > > This is a totally unfair comparison. They guy dropping $1K on a > > Mac is walking out with a machine that is fully configured and > > ready to run. > > As was the Sawtooth. > Hmm - "Mac Sawtooth" to me is a circa 1999 Power Mac G4. I think we are talking about something different since you couldn't possibly be just buying used devices and -not- nuking and repaving.. or could you? > > When you get an old clunker by the time you tally up the time you > > have spent on getting it ready to run, your at the same amount. > ... > > Skilled UNIX tech time is at min $95 an hour. Your talking a > > min of 4 hours to get a Goodwill find up and going on FreeBSD > > by the time you work out the quirks, assuming that the ram in it > > doesen't have a flaw and the disk is good, if you have to replace > > that stuff you count the hours it takes to drive to Fry's and > > back, buy the disk, etc.. well your getting pretty close to that > > $1K in my book. > > It took me *zero* more time to get this box (Dell #1) ready for > FreeBSD than if it had come direct from Dell with Windoze preloaded. Not fair - you aren't including the time spent "preloading" FreeBSD. The entire point is of the labor to get it to where you can start the userland configuration. Not to get it to where you can insert the operating system install CD and boot it. When you buy them new, the windows is already loaded and ready to start the userland configuration (which in my experience mainly consists of uninstalling all the trialware and crap on them) Granted, you might have FBSD installs down pat and get a machine where you can just insert the CD, and 2 hours later your ready to start userland config. But, you had to spend time LEARNING HOW to do this, and typical L-user (Low level user) who bought a brand new box for a grand, DIDN'T. As a matter of fact they didn't even have to spend time learning how to use a screwdriver to open the case! So, in TOTAL time you have spent on these boxes, including all the time you have spent learning how to use the OS, L-User is still ahead of you in that they have spent a lot less time on the box in front of them. Remember, Windows preloads are designed so morons can get the machine working. You don't have to know -anything-, you don't even have to spend time learning how to use Windows. At least, I have to conclude this based on the actions of many many people I have dealt with, in corporations even, who are behind Windows boxes. > Yes, the hard drive did fail after a while, but that is not unheard > of with brand new boxes either. I'm not convinced that a trip to > Fry's for a new drive takes any longer than packing up a dead drive > and taking it to the post office to ship back for warranty replacement. > If you're an L-User, when this happens you don't save files, take disk out, ship it back, get new disk, install, test. You take it back to store where you bought it under the extended warranty, give it to them, say fix it, and come back a week later. It isn't necessary to actually spend time learning how to fix your system or how to unscrew the case for that matter Sure, some tech is going to spend time fixing the 'doze box. But, said tech -isn't- the person who -paid- for the box. > > In any case I was really speaking about the delta in a more > > general sense. I see a lot of folks going to comcast - who > > as I understand their pricing, for Internet service only over > > comcast, you pay more too. > > You really shouldn't have given me an excuse to bash Comcast :) > > They claim they are faster, but since I seldom see anywhere near > rated speed on DSL I don't think the DSL line is the limiting factor. > Given that, I would not expect cable to be any faster *in practice* > than DSL. When I tried to explain this to the door-to-door droid > who was trying to sell me Comcast a while back, it was completely > beyond his comprehension. I don't care for their TOS either -- as > I understand it, I can't even leave an SSH port open to enable me > to log in from the office because that would be considered "running > a server". > Correct, they block all incoming ports for well known services. Obviously, people can and do run servers on ports above 1024. What do you mean you seldom see rated speed on your DSL line? Are you talking from world to you, or are you talking from ISP to you? > > The real point is how much do you value something? Are you > > going to say that PPP-only DSL service from an ISP (verizon.net) > > that does not give you a static IP number, and has a support desk > > that is based in India and only speaks Windowease (and does a poor > > job of that) is worth the same as all-the-time-on fully bridged > > DSL service with a static IP and no goofy MTU size restrictions > > and is supported by the same people that built the system and > > who run Windows, FreeBSD and Linux both on their desktops and > > servers? > > I could get a static IP from Verizon if I wanted to pay extra for > it, but so far I haven't seen the need; my Netgear* firewall gets > its IP address etc. via DHCP AFAIK. As to PPP vs bridged, that is > taken care of somehow between some Verizon server and the firewall. > I only know that I haven't had to program any username or password > into the firewall, which I think would have been needed for PPP. > Ah, so then what your saying is that you -don't- value the better service? Fair enough. Many people don't value microbrews, that's why they still sell the cheaper Bud Lite. > * Keeping this marginally on-topic, I was originally using a > GNATbox, which is based on FreeBSD. I switched to the Netgear > after the GNATbox couldn't handle a Verizon "system upgrade" a > while back. > > Anyway, I'm comparing the wire charges, not the ISP service. The > DSL modem, pair to the CO, and whatever transport from there to the > ISP are presumably the same in either case; if anything connecting > to a local ISP should be cheaper than having to send the bits all > the way to Verizon Online on the east coast. Yet -- as of when > I looked into it -- Verizon was charging something like $5 or $10 > *more* for the wire connection to a 3rd party ISP than for the > equivalent connection to Verizon Online, and effectively throwing > in the ISP "service" for free. > Right, as I said, this is when the ISP sells DSL service over Verizon via retail. Not wholesale. You only talked to the ones at the time that were selling retail. Not unsurprising since Verizon is not the majority LEC in the Portland Metro area, and most DSL ISPs in Portland probably didn't have enough potential Verizon DSL customers to even be able to sign the wholesale contract. In other areas of the country where Verizon IS the majority LEC, (particularly back east) all the ISP's there have signed the wholesale agreement and you won't find the pricing differential. > > ... 40 years ago you went to the grocery store and bought > > bread and all they had was Wonder air bread. You went to the > > bar and bought a beer and all they had was Bud. Restaurants > > either came in Burger, Steak, or American Menu ... > > I have been around long enough to have had personal experience with > 40 years ago, and I can assure you that, at least in central Iowa, > the food situation was a whole lot better than that. I can't speak > to the beer, for which I was underage, although not by a lot :) > I would expect that in Iowa also. But seriously, 40 years ago was only 1966 and food had already started to take a dump in quality. We were still 15 years away from Reaganimicist John Block, Sec. of Agriculture, defending "Ketchup as a vegetable" which I think was the zenith of horrible food quality in the US, but the rot had already started > > Today, you go to the grocery store and sure you can still get the > > air-bread. But for more money you can get bread that tastes far, > > far better, and was baked locally. > > I don't think local is relevant to your argument. probably not but you get the idea. > > > Why is it OK for the food industry to be like this, and it's not > > OK for the Internet Service industry to be like this? It seems > > like everyone only wants Internet Service to be as cheap as > > possible and couldn't give a damn about quality. > > I don't need much from an ISP beyond connectivity, bandwidth, > an IP address, and access to a nameserver; why should I pay for > services I'm not going to use? Hmmm - interesting, I didn't list any services that you aren't currently using, but your still trying to equate higher prices with services you don't need. What I listed is -better- implementations of the services that you are already using. > (I have *never* logged on to > Verizon -- I think they sent me an ID and password, but I have > no clue what they are for; I've never needed to use them :) > I *do* want it to work properly, which has been a lot less of > an issue recently than it used to be; and when it quits working, > esp. when nothing has changed on my end, I'd like to be able to > reach someone who has a clue. > We all would like this and that, the question was, would you value it? As in, would you pay extra to be able to reach someone who has a clue when it stops working? It sounds like with you, the answer is no. That is, you aren't willing to fork over anything more. Not even as little as $1 a month to get better, faster service if that is all it took. That is fair enough - however you must understand that just because you think that internet service is purely a commodity market, going to the lowest bidder, that does not have to apply to everyone else. When people like you are running around telling everyone that all ISP's are the same, and just get the cheapest service possible, your doing a disservice to people who don't want an Internet experience just like you, who are in fact willing to pay the extra $1 a month or so, to get better service. Who would be willing to pay more for an external DSL modem to be able to use a public IP address on a real FreeBSD machine. And, frankly, it might be that they might not pay more, they might pay the same as you, for better service if they just called around a little more. > > > > Basically IMHO the Verizon pricing program was designed to > > > > push the really tiny independents, ie: the guys that might > > > > have a grand total of 5 or 10 Verizon DSL customers, off of > > > > their network. > > > > > > That would have violated at least the intent, if not the letter, > > > of the antitrust laws. > > > > Actually, no. Here's the problem. Have you ever wondered why > > the telephone companies over the last 10 years have all stopped > > referring to themselves as "telephone" companies and started > > referring to themselves as "communications companies"? > > > > The reason is that they successfully convinced the FCC that an ISP > > can be nothing more than services offered by the telephone company. > > (or cable or dish, company) > > If they were an FCC-regulated "common carrier" they would have certain > equal-access obligations. Having successfully argued that Internet > service should *not* be so regulated, they lose the common carrier's > exemption from the antitrust laws. That is correct. > They should not be able to have > it both ways. > They don't, according to the FCC, because: > > So, in most areas you have a telephone company that offers DSL, > > and a cable company that offers cable Internet. So according to > > the FCC, there -is- competition because there are 2 separate ISPs > > there. One ISP is owned by the telephone company and the other > > is owned by the cable company. > > Last I heard*, the prohibition on anticompetitive practices extends > to anyone having "market power", generally defined as over roughly > 1/3 of a market. As applied to the market in broadband residential > Internet service, in the part of the Portland metro area where > Verizon is authorized to provide local wired telephone service, > the only way for the piece of Verizon that provides the actual DSL > connection (not the ISP part) to *not* have market power would be > for Comcast plus Dish to have something like 70% of it. I very > much doubt that this has ever been the case. > I belive that Coke and Pepsi have the soft drink market split about 50-50. Certainly, they have pushed all smaller soft drink mfgrs out of a solid 80% of the distribution channel - when was the last time for example you saw Old Bob Millers Sarsaparilla in a McDonalds, Burger King, or movie theatre? And I think you would have to be blind to not think that there's collusion on pricing with Coke and Pepsi. In the grocery store they are all the same price, and the house brand sodas are a lot cheaper. Where's the anti-trust action there? What the communications companies are doing is nothing compared to that. > The real problem is that the authorities have not been enforcing the > antitrust laws. No surprise, they didn't meaningfully enforce them > against Micro$oft either. > Well, they aren't enforcing them because they think that the consumer isn't being made to suffer unduly. For example, they don't go after Coke and Pepsi because everybody knows that soft drinks are about the worst food item you can put into your body, the Feds would like to see people drinking less soda (reduces nutrition-related health costs) so if letting Coke and Pepsi jack prices through the roof causes consumers to drink less soda, good thing, that. And they aren't going after the communications companies because the FCC has told them that allowing communications companies to balloon up and push smaller independent ISP's out of business is a Good Thing, because after all, "...nobody needs much from an ISP beyond connectivity, bandwidth, an IP address, and access to a nameserver..." and big giant communications companies must be more likely to run DSL lines out to the farmers in Boring, Oregon, since they have a lot more money. > * from the legal department of a former employer, large enough > in its industry to consider it worthwhile to brief engineering > employees on antitrust law so as to forestall violations that > might otherwise arise through ignorance > > > Dialup is the gateway drug to DSL but by definition the only > > people out there seeking dialup, are the bottom feeders (people > > who won't pay a penny more than the absolute minum) and as > > a result would never countenence paying the extra money for > > broadband. Verizon is leaving it to the independent ISP's > > to deal with this crowd. > > Well I am a "bottom feeder" as far as DSL is concerned, There are no bottom feeders in DSL. You see, by getting DSL you have made the internal decision that your Internet service is a product that you actually care something about. The bottom feeders internal decisions are that Internet service is a product that they feel forced to have. (because grandkids or social services or whatnot mandates that they do it over broadband) > but also a > very early adopter; and I have never had dialup IP. (I have had > email for over a decade, and it still runs over UUCP. It ain't > broke.) > I ran UUCP off Agora for years to my personal system, to handle e-mail, as a matter of fact. And my employer still has a handful of customers that use ETRN (ISDN ones, as you might guess) And if we needed to, we could deploy a UUCP account, we have all the components needed. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 11:44:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A7716A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from electromir.ru (gate.electromir.ru [213.33.202.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E8613C45E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from palukhin@electromir.ru) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (account paluhin [192.168.0.124] verified) by electromir.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.12) with ESMTPA id 1574773 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:44:49 +0300 Message-ID: <45B5F570.1070802@electromir.ru> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:45:52 +0300 From: Oleg Palukhin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: buildworld_6.2-release_error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:44:52 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:48:04 +0300, Oleg Palukhin wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:55:56 +0300, Garrett Cooper > wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Oleg Palukhin wrote: > >> `make buildworld` fails with this error: > >> > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c:120: error: field `res_state_ext` > has > >> incomplete type > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: In function `__res_init`: > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: `_res_ext` undeclared > >> (first use in this function) > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: (Each undeclared > >> identifier is reported only once > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 219: error: for each function it > >> appears in.) > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: At top level > >> /usr/src/lib/libc/net/res_init.c: 630: error storage size of > `_res_ext` > >> isn`t known > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> Stop in /usr/src/lib/libc. > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> Stop in /usr/src/lib. > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> Stop in /usr/src. > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> > >> FreeBSD palukhin.xxx.com 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: > Mon > >> Oct 9 16:40:57 MSD 2006 > >> oleg@palukhin.xxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSKERN i386 > >> > >> And I keep getting same error trying make buildworld from these src > on > >> other machine under 6.1-RELEASE. > >> > >> > >> Any thoughts about it? > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> -- > >> > >> oleg palukhin > > > > Try cvsup'ing on both machines and rebuild world for both. > > If the error still occurs post-CVSUP, what's your arch and build > options > > (/etc/make.conf or CLI set variables)? > > - -Garrett > > ok, thanks, I`ll try cvsup and rebuild again and tell about results soon; > just hoped that can do without re-cvsup > > oleg palukhin Yes, after re-cvsup`ing rebuilding to 6.2 passed successfully. Thank you for advise. oleg palukhin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 12:40:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02B216A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from mailout11.sul.t-online.com (mailout11.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F8113C467 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from fwd34.aul.t-online.de by mailout11.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1H9Kbt-0007hO-07; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:18:45 +0100 Received: from p54a56541.dip.t-dialin.net (rI6xZMZdoevOoWtUHg9IE4l7lx20bNO1DMYCVajPJ3TrtMtMU3Ex8X@[84.165.101.65]) by fwd34.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1H9Kbh-1KjWJk0; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:18:33 +0100 From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:17:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> X-ID: rI6xZMZdoevOoWtUHg9IE4l7lx20bNO1DMYCVajPJ3TrtMtMU3Ex8X X-TOI-MSGID: 4e48bb25-d730-4315-88e6-f0d613118a8e Subject: Problem with Enabling DRI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:40:07 -0000 Hello list, I tried to enable the nice composite features of KDE on my workstation. It seems they work, but very slow. The KERNEL contains "device agp", /boot/loader.conf contains "sis_load="YES"" and that are some interesting outputs: "dmesg | grep drm" outputs: drm0: port 0xa000-0xa07f mem 0x88000000-0x8fffffff,0x80000000-0x8001ffff at device 0.0 on pci1 info: [drm] AGP at 0x40000000 64MB info: [drm] Initialized sis 1.1.0 20030826 "grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log" outputs: (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) SIS(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling the DRI. "grep failed /var/log/Xorg.0.log" outputs: (--) SIS(0): CRT2 DDC probing failed (II) SIS(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (6, pci:0000:01:00.0), Permission denied (EE) SIS(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling the DRI. "uname -a" outputs: FreeBSD vagabund.w33 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #1: Sat Jan 20 10:31:01 CET 2007 root@vagabund.w33:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 It seems that drmSetBusid causing problems, but I don't know how to resolve it. Any ideas? With regards Stevan Tiefert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 12:59:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E45916A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6E13C468 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ppp109-217.lns5.adl4.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.44.109.217]) by ipmail02.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2007 23:29:21 +1030 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,225,1167571800"; d="scan'208"; a="75199547:sNHT101265990" From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:29:20 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <561554.90532.qm@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <561554.90532.qm@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701232329.20372.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: ann kok Subject: Re: error boot up from clone drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:59:24 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:18 am, ann kok wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to test the clone harddrive to boot up the > system. I got an error > > init: can't exec getty '/usr/libexec/getty' for port > /dev/tty.. > > but I check the clone harddive. the file is there > /usr/libexec/getty and /dev/tty. > > i am using the following to copy the production drive > to clone drive > > 1/ add the secondary ad2 (clone) in the computer > 2/ fdisk and parition as same as the primary drive > (ad0) > 3/ newfs and mount ad2 eg: /usr1 /var1 .... > 4/ using tar command to copy file from /var/ to /var1 > eg: tar cf - var | ( cd var1; tar xvfBp - ) If you do it exactly like this then you have created an extra directory level. If you now remount the partition written to /var1 at /var; then /var/tmp for example will now be at /var/var/tmp. I think you really needed: # cd /var # tar cf - . | ( cd var1; tar xvfBp - ) or something similar > 5/ shutdown the computer > 6/ unplug ad0 and plug the IDE1 to IDE0 > 7/ boot up > > Thank you for your help Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 13:08:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A7B16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bleeber@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FE113C45D for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bleeber@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1595142wxc for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 05:08:01 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VxyJho7jS5sB8bF2fpz0kbFsHKYnUmRgqlmCjDKDE3InJ/rtAzSxSPcOLlG585ytw51ubKOQEyQF4QOzGDQfaRTkYN87G9hTRsiK6O8b0J1QqimkrmdOiMBrxkLJoqQY+mhyXEcxKe034lSISlIo4b1yvaZW6md5eXttxoFCu3c= Received: by 10.90.116.6 with SMTP id o6mr7781032agc.1169555969010; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.30.18 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:39:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:39:28 -0500 From: Bleeber To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8efc42630602090805k12d133b9haa18ac95c7a38b82@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Simon Chang , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:08:01 -0000 Sorry to bring up an old thread but if others catalog this list for searching later like I do then at least they will have this updated information. As suggested by Ted, I went out and looked for a webcam port and the cams supported by that port. PWCBSD - the author states that it "should work with any webcam supported by the Linux pwc driver." A list of supported cams can be found here: http://raaf.atspace.org/ On 2/10/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Go into the ports and build one of the webcam programs, get the > list of supported cameras from it's docs, find one of these on ebay, is > about > the best you can do I think. > > Ted > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Simon Chang > >Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:06 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD > > > > > >Ted, > > > >First of all, I am a fan of your FreeBSD and the Corporate Networking > >Guide. You have done an excellent job writing that book and I often > >refer to it for suggestions on specific topics. > > > >Regarding self-contained webcams, I realize that these gizmos are out > >there. But so far none of them have the two criteria I am looking > >for: > > > >1) Wireless connectivity (802.11g preferred), and > >2) VPN / IPsec capable. > > > >The reason is that I want to be able to move the camera at a moment's > >notice, and I don't want the images of my bedroom / study / backyard > >to be broadcast in the clear. However, I have not seen any webcam > >that has those two capabilities, so that's why I am trying to get them > >to work with Free and OpenBSD. > > > >SC > > > >On 2/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> > >> The reason there's little interest in this is that webcams are > >> rapidly becoming completely self-contained. Lots of them today > >> have an ethernet port, and integrated webserver in the camera. > >> The need for a PC to be involved here for anything other than > >> running a web browser to display output is pretty questionable. > >> > >> When network address translation first came out the only way you > >> could get it was to used a modded open source UNIX on a PC with > >> 2 nics. Then Cisco came out with it so you could use their routers > >> to get it. Then linksys came out with cheap routers that had > >> it. Nowadays, only the diehards are running FreeBSD nat routers > >> with 2 nics in them. The same thing is happening with webcams. > >> > >> Ted > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Simon Chang > >> >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:49 PM > >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >> >Subject: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD > >> > > >> > > >> >Howdy, > >> > > >> >I happen to have been doing quite a bit of research in this area. > >> >What I wanted to do was to set up a *nix box with a webcam and a > >> >wireless NIC, so that I can mount the headless machine in the bedroom > >> >to keep an eye on our seven-month-old baby. (Link between the *nix > >> >box and the home private network will be encrypted using IPsec VPN.) > >> > > >> >What I have found so far are the following: > >> > > >> >1) The apps that I have found do not work with a wide > >variety of more > >> >recent makes of webcams. If you do a Google search on "FreeBSD > >> >webcam" or "OpenBSD webcam", you actually see some tools that > >> >purportedly work with QuickCam Express or QuickCam B/W (or > >Color), and > >> >a handful of other models. > >> > > >> >2) Logitech, the maker of QuickCam, used to make available technical > >> >specs and docs for the developers to write drivers with. > >> >Unfortunately, the company does not do that anymore, and anyone who > >> >wants to make a QuickCam-series work has to either reverse-engineer > >> >it, use available drivers and hope for the best, or run it under > >> >Windows. > >> > > >> >3) By contrast, NetBSD and some Linux distros (so far I've heard > >> >promising things about Fedora Core 4 and I think Gentoo) have more > >> >development work going on for webcams. If FreeBSD doesn't work for > >> >you, try some of the other *nixes. > >> > > >> >HTH, > >> > > >> >SC > >> > > >> >- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> > > >> >On 1/29/06, Xn Nooby wrote: > >> >> I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no > >> >idea how to make > >> >> it work with FreeBSD. I installed qcamview, but when I run > >> >it as root, it > >> >> says "Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied". > >> >> > >> >> Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD? I don't > >> >expect it to work, > >> >> but it would be cool if it did. There seems to be very > >> >little information > >> >> on the net about qcamview. > >> >> > >> >> I'd be happy to just snapshots with it. I'm using FreeBSD > >> >6.0 and Fluxbox. > >> >> The cam is USB 2.0. > >> >> > >> >> Any suggestions? > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > >> >-- > >> >No virus found in this incoming message. > >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release > >> >Date: 1/25/2006 > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - Release Date: 2/8/2006 > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- The Bleeber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 13:11:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6830616A406 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:11:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417E13C448 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.4) with SMTP id AAA17564; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:11:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:11:32 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Zhang Weiwu In-Reply-To: <20070123110959.0303A16A479@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: laptop screen always shutdown if no keyboard interaction for several minutes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:11:47 -0000 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 162, Issue 5 > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:47:02 +0800 > From: Zhang Weiwu > Hello. I tried various ways to stop the laptop screen from being > shutting down, as I use this screen to watch debug message of an > application I am working on, I need monitor always on, no screensaver, > no blank, no dpms etc. What make and model laptop? > I cannot do it. I have tried: > 1. set blanktime to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf > 2. set saver to "NO" in /etc/rc.conf On my Compaq 1500c, saver only affects it while viewing a vty; I use apm_saver which actually does power down my screen. In X (KDE) saver has no effect, and I usually have KDE's power management turned off. > 3. start X server and run a terminal in it, run xset -dpms What window manager? KDE, for instance, can do its own screensaver management, that could override or bypass your manual -dpms setting. > 4. check laptop BIOS setting (there is no setting for automatic > blank time Your BIOS surely has settings for power management, both for battery and mains power? These might include screenblanking even if it's not called that (eg maximum / minimum / no power savings or such)? Apart from manually invoked suspend/resume and battery state reporting, apm relies on (and is oblivious to) the machine's BIOS APM settings for blanking / disk off / suspend timers, or does on my 1500c at least. > I have not tried: > I. remove 'apm' from kernel (I didn't compile ACPI into kernel > because this is an old notebook I am not sure if ACPI works, but > I have compiled apm in kernel, which is not shown in dmesg and > doesn't seem to work, e.g. 'shutdown -p' do not turn off the > power) Usually - given we don't know what sort of old laptop - you can or must specifically enable or disable APM and/or ACPI in BIOS. If apm is not shown in /var/run/dmesg.boot then it isn't being used, or perhaps not detected. checking dmesg after booting verbosely might give at least some clue about that, assuming that APM is enabled in BIOS. Boot to the loader prompt and check that hint.apm.0.disabled=0 and that hint.apm.0.flags="0x20" (a safe default). You could then 'boot -v' to get your verbose dmesg.boot, which you may want to save for reference. > II. install Windows on the same computer to see if Windows can keep > the monitor on. Hopefully it hasn't come to that, yet :) > III. boot the system to FreeDOS and see if monitor keep turned up (to > decide if LCD is turned off by hardware or software) Sounds like an easy non-destructive test from a floppy or CD boot. > Any suggestions? Provide some basic info. Somebody else might know the same machine. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 13:18:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A9316A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx33.mail.ru (mx33.mail.ru [194.67.23.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0759313C45B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=59034 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H9LXS-000KBJ-00; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:18:14 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:18:14 +0500 To: =?utf-8?B?zpPOuc+Jz4HOs86/z4IgzqbPic+EzrXOuc69zr/PgM6/z4XOu86/z4I=?= From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070123085847.90035.qmail@web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070123085847.90035.qmail@web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does 82915PM/GMS support dri??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:18:17 -0000 > i have a problem configuring dri support for my laptop (a celeron > 1.5Ghz, with i915GM GMCH chipset and 768Mb memory).Does anyone knows > firstly if there is a support for this chipset?If so, can you please > check the glxinfo and dmesg and tell me what's wrong? > Thanks for the time. I haven't this card but it seems that i915GM is supported. Excerpt from /usr/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_pciids.h: '#define i915_PCI_IDS \ {0x8086, 0x3577, 0, "Intel i830M GMCH"}, \ {0x8086, 0x2562, 0, "Intel i845G GMCH"}, \ {0x8086, 0x3582, 0, "Intel i852GM/i855GM GMCH"}, \ {0x8086, 0x2572, 0, "Intel i865G GMCH"}, \ {0x8086, 0x2582, 0, "Intel i915G"}, \ {0x8086, 0x2592, 0, "Intel i915GM"}, \ {0x8086, 0x2772, 0, "Intel i945G"}, \ {0x8086, 0x27A2, 0, "Intel i945GM"}, \ {0, 0, 0, NULL}' Have you the following strings in kernel configuration file: device drm device i915drm ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 13:32:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53D116A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx33.mail.ru (mx33.mail.ru [194.67.23.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8306313C4BF for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=7833 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx33.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H9LlB-000F6a-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:32:25 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> References: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:32:25 +0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Problem with Enabling DRI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:32:26 -0000 Stevan Tiefert wrote: > (II) SIS(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (6, pci:0000:01:00.0), Permission > denied Driver says 'Permission denied'. Try to add the following to your xorg.conf: ' Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection ' as written in http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/install.html. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 13:44:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFE216A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F384E13C45D for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1H9Lwi-0002ED-05; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:44:20 +0100 Received: from p54a56541.dip.t-dialin.net (E20gcrZfZedaKDifEfEJCPkWTmKsl7guNMIg8l9j6BIssEAK9r8Y0B@[84.165.101.65]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1H9LwR-1ZX8WO0; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:44:03 +0100 From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:43:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1900707.NHRic6DR21"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200701231443.28474.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> X-ID: E20gcrZfZedaKDifEfEJCPkWTmKsl7guNMIg8l9j6BIssEAK9r8Y0B X-TOI-MSGID: a31916f8-9494-411d-b3c1-c8b6874d550f Subject: Re: Problem with Enabling DRI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:44:22 -0000 --nextPart1900707.NHRic6DR21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2007 14:32 schrieb applecom@inbox.ru: > Stevan Tiefert wrote: > > (II) SIS(0): [drm] drmSetBusid failed (6, pci:0000:01:00.0), > > Permission denied > > Driver says 'Permission denied'. Try to add the following to your > xorg.conf: > ' > Section "DRI" > Mode 0666 > EndSection > ' > as written in http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/install.html. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, /etc/X11/xorg.conf contains already this entry. With regards Stevan Tiefert --nextPart1900707.NHRic6DR21 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQBFthEAShwvFt8BFVwRAvhtAJ4gyfBfEyManLP08U0Qxu5IUD1xDgCYxXLY GcYvjKq1bEcJX3nHGLYVWA== =C4O7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1900707.NHRic6DR21-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 14:29:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9B516A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtriende@wisc.edu) Received: from medmicro.wisc.edu (listserv.medmicro.wisc.edu [128.104.10.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02813C4BC for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jtriende@wisc.edu) Received: from [128.104.10.240] (unknown [128.104.10.240]) by medmicro.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196F6302833; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:29:26 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: James Riendeau Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:29:25 -0600 To: Jonathan Horne X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:27 -0000 > i just set up my first gmirror raid1, and... it was really simple. > too > simple. "ok... what did i skip or do wrong?", was my first thought. > > i follow the doc from onlamp.com: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page=1 > > i did have one giant deviation tho, and im wondering if it really > makes a > difference. the article depicts creating the gmirror immediately > following > initial operating system install, but i did my example on a fully > functioning > system. other than that, i have 2 identical disks, and things seem > to be > working: > > castor# gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/gm0 DEGRADED ad0 > ad1 (33%) > > im sure im seeing less than the best performance since im using but > a single > > ide channel, but other than that, is it feasible to insert an > identical > disk, > and setup the gmirror at anytime a freebsd'er likes? > > also, the doc didnt mention it, but if you do use to differing disk > sizes, > obviously the smaller one should be ad0? and other than that, is > there any > difference in setting up gmirror if the second disk is larger? > > cheers, > jonathan The surest way to test your raid is to unplug the IDE cable to one drive while the system is running and see if it still works. Plug it back in and rebuild the drive. Do the same for the other drive. Setting up gmirror on a new system is straight forward; trying to set it up on a system that can't be taken down for a day can be a major headache. I would like to stress that a mirrored RAID setup is no substitute for a solid backup plan. If there is a data error, gmirror will faithfully replicate that error on the other drive. You may not find out that a drive has failed until both drives fail especially if you're not keeping a close eye on your daily reports, so a backup is essential. James Riendeau MMI Computer Support Technician 1300 University Ave Rm. 436, Dept. of MedMicro Madison, WI 53706 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 14:29:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A08F16A407 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2-2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E113C428 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=49637 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx2.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H9Me0-000KcF-00; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:29:04 +0300 To: "Stevan Tiefert" From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> <200701231443.28474.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:28:17 +0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200701231443.28474.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Enabling DRI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:29:41 -0000 From http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting: 'If it says: [drm] drmSetBusid failed (7, PCI:1:0:0), Permission denied people have said that it's because the modules were built with a different gcc version than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync. Also, dmesg output should show something about version magic mismatches if this is the case. Another possibility (for the i915/i810 chipsets) is that you have an old buggy version of the i810 driver. Be sure to upgrade to the latest and "greatest".' Maybe it will help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 14:39:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F32C16A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F35E13C45E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from fwd27.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1H9Mo1-00032W-00; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:39:25 +0100 Received: from p54a5516a.dip.t-dialin.net (Z6zSUmZLweQHIgiRRgM3J-vcLsWYMTCy3+Pql8s3ksoG5dKH7VDQ8b@[84.165.81.106]) by fwd27.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1H9Mnn-0DwooS0; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:39:11 +0100 From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:38:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200701231317.58035.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> <200701231443.28474.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6222684.b7TLatpp2t"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200701231538.36751.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> X-ID: Z6zSUmZLweQHIgiRRgM3J-vcLsWYMTCy3+Pql8s3ksoG5dKH7VDQ8b X-TOI-MSGID: 0c923ecd-4fb9-4dfe-b5f1-14d3dbba1e42 Subject: Re: Problem with Enabling DRI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:27 -0000 --nextPart6222684.b7TLatpp2t Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2007 15:28 schrieb applecom@inbox.ru: > From http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting: > 'If it says: > [drm] drmSetBusid failed (7, PCI:1:0:0), Permission denied > people have said that it's because the modules were built with a > different gcc version than the kernel. Make sure they are in sync. > Also, dmesg output should show something about version magic > mismatches if this is the case. Another possibility (for the > i915/i810 chipsets) is that you have an old buggy version of the i810 > driver. Be sure to upgrade to the latest and "greatest".' > Maybe it will help. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello, =46irst: you cut & pasted a solution for Linux!!! Are you sure you know what you advice??? Second: I never said anything about the intel-chipset! I have a=20 sis-chipset! Did you really read my mail? With regards Stevan Tiefert --nextPart6222684.b7TLatpp2t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFth3sShwvFt8BFVwRAkYtAJ44jr1+qGqjMQHh4hUb87UNb5OKHACg2RXD kC2sAAZDDwy1MlpXoCRiIRg= =5oyr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6222684.b7TLatpp2t-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 14:49:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A1516A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from gamma.dnsresolution.net (54.ce.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.206.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9594813C4C1 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:49:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from wnpgmb06dc1-181-149.dynamic.mts.net ([142.161.181.149] helo=batman) by gamma.dnsresolution.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H9Mx9-0004J7-3w for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:48:53 -0500 From: "VH-Brody" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:52:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 Thread-Index: Acc+/h+zIzc8/+yDS46b47VPHRE15w== X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gamma.dnsresolution.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - versehost.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20070123144903.9594813C4C1@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Image not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:49:11 -0000 Hey guys, I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want to boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, but obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. I'm out of ideas and I've ruled out the system as at fault. What do you guys think? Brody Winnipeg, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 14:50:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BCC16A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:50:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordon@datapipe.com) Received: from exchfe04.datapipe-corp.net (exchfe04.datapipe-corp.net [64.106.130.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EC013C43E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgordon@datapipe.com) Received: from [192.168.89.125] ([192.168.89.125]) by exchfe04.datapipe-corp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: <45B61DFF.7010304@datapipe.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:38:55 -0500 From: Jay Gordon User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Chandler References: <45B5019B.6070804@chapman.edu> In-Reply-To: <45B5019B.6070804@chapman.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2007 14:38:56.0144 (UTC) FILETIME=[35F77900:01C73EFC] Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Page Faulting Box? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:50:57 -0000 My guess would be bad ram. I would do a memory test or swap the ram out, see if the error happens again. Jay Chandler wrote: > One of our servers is restarting at random. Not entirely sure what > causes it-- hopefully someone here can help me track it down (I > suspect hardware at some point, potentially the Broadcom NIC). > > This is what's in the messages log-- what else can I provide y'all with? > > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in > kernel mode > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: cpuid = 2; apic id = 06 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault virtual address = 0x104 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: fault code = supervisor > read, page not present > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc066c731 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xe4f99c90 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xe4 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: f99c9c > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: code segment = base 0x0, > limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: > Jan 22 10:16:55 montreal kernel: processor eflags = resume, IOPL > = 0 > Jan 22 10:20:58 montreal syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel > > -- Jay Gordon Unix Systems Administrator DataPipe Managed Hosting Services - What It Means To Be Sure - http://www.datapipe.com Tel: 201.792.1918 x2402 | Fax: 201-792-3090 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:07:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EAA16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54413C4A5 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so641517ana for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:07:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HKkFqFRGKP1lTYRTodeZ2lnMjWXf6VF/FLMVOAmZSISShjTtwEKWNoSkXn22Sltt6Tcya+seQnKkX2HbEqNLX09LPOF3DC3bR5S1L76LPMpwcoom6quVmTdGp4XmrdDVeBWXIn+UmfdztoQiVXgt4e5lF8uIadWm7MT0INxzR+I= Received: by 10.49.36.6 with SMTP id o6mr1256253nfj.1169564834099; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.123.111? ( [84.0.96.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27sm2871294nfa.2007.01.23.07.07.12; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B6254B.3090609@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:10:03 +0100 From: deeptech71@gmail.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd realtime network usage limiter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:15 -0000 That is, I have a router connecting to the internet through PPP. There are 4 computers (and a DSL modem) connected to the router. The router does not limit or share internet speed evenly, so if I download via TCP at full speed, others complain about slow loading web pages. My comp has a FreeBSD OS. How can I limit my upload and download speed to, say, 0.333 of the speed permitted by my provider? Also, if I had a FreeBSD router, how could I share speed evenly? BTW: Is it true that are some types of traffic that need higher priority, such as games using UDP, so that data does not lag? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:10:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D875A16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C1713C4B8 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0NF5JZt015465; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:05:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0NF5Jul015464; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:05:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:05:19 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Damian Wiest Message-ID: <20070123150519.GA15419@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> <20070123073506.GB6053@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070123073506.GB6053@dfwdamian.vail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:10:36 -0000 On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 01:35:06AM -0600, Damian Wiest wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:16:59PM -0600, Damian Wiest wrote: > > [snip] > > > Real hardware RAID chips/cards tend to be expensive, > > proprietary, don't require an OS driver and include a battery backup > > system for data in the RAID cache should the system lose power. > > I don't know what I was thinking, of course the hardware RAID systems > require drivers. Of course, what you meant to say was that they don't require an OS raid utility to zip the raid together. They look like a single hardware device and the driver must just be for that device sort of like any other device. ////jerry > > -Damian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:23:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8F916A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7373913C44B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:23:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0NFIWvn015500; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0NFIWSV015499; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:18:32 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Damian Wiest Message-ID: <20070123151832.GB15419@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Steve Franks , FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:23:49 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:16:59PM -0600, Damian Wiest wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 11:33:47AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > > I'm tired of win2k crashing, and we won't even go into my opinion of vista's > > strongarm marketing tactics (read: changing my hardware means I have to pay > > again? they can keep their OS). > > > > Problem is, I've got 320GB of accumulated detrius on ntfs volumes to > > migrate. I see there is some good r/w ports for ntfs, so I'm willing to > > evaluate that to see if it's stable (shoestring budget here obviously - this > > is my personal stuff only). > > > > Forging ahead, I get ready to start playing the mounting game, but > > lo-and-behold, suddenly I have 4 disks whereas in windows I had two. Now I > > praise FreeBSD for it's superior intellect here, but now I have a problem. > > I want two 160GB mirrored volumes, not 4 unmirrored ones. The RAID is an > > ASUS P5DR1-VM motherboard with a ULI raid chipset onboard. Very nice setup > > for the money. > > > > Is this normal? Am I going to break my mirror if I mount a single disk? If > > so, how do I mount a mirror? First, I am guessing that what you say is just correct - somehow you are seeing your disks in a non-raid form rather than treating it as a raid. Second of all, if you mount one side of the mirror as read-only, and use that to read up what is on the drive, it should not break anything. You can't write NTFS in FreeBSD anyway - or couldn't the last I knew. You can only read NTFS in FreeBSD. You should only have to read one disk of each of the two mirrors. Then you can copy that stuff to some safe place - on another drive probably - check it out and make sure it is ok and then reuse those other 4 drives for something. Maybe you can find a raid controller that works or figure out how to use the one you have and use those disks over again - now nicely reset to FreeBSD type (165) and with FreeBSD filesystems built on them. I have only used one raid in FreeBSD so far (and don't have it now) and it worked just fine after I figured out what driver it needed. So, have hope. You can get it to work. One more thing, is it at all possible that you are really seeing four slices and two of them are vendor diagnostic/maintenance slices - one for each raid rather than four actual disks? Those don't show up in MS but FreeBSD sees them. That occasionally throws people when they think they should be on slice 1 (or slice 2 if dual booting) and it is really slice 2 (or 3 for dual boot) because of the vendor slice on the front of the drive. Just an extra thought. ////jerry > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > -- > > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > > Staff Engineer > > La Palma Devices, LLC > > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > > (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:32:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD4916A40F for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E2F13C4C4 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:31:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so1096883wri for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tbfYLlFQQfaYuxVdsSxqMgbeiqWDbla4OAu1hU51nrZ5pZiuV1h2/cVX13WLKbVlEgEttpdAffaNPUjEsi9wj2VHSFaRVVPVHnGf0E+ujkHFrlul4/yFiU84z6eQVeLjzoSzHAbcZv8j1UdNiv4TFtA9KXikUxV9pfF2Lzr31oQ= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr410880hug.1169566316040; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.135.13 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:31:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ee9ca710701230731l492b2aa8l4448c3e12a6defc7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:31:56 -0500 From: "Andy Greenwood" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <45B6254B.3090609@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B6254B.3090609@gmail.com> Subject: Re: freebsd realtime network usage limiter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:32:00 -0000 On 1/23/07, deeptech71@gmail.com wrote: > That is, I have a router connecting to the internet through PPP. There are 4 > computers (and a DSL modem) connected to the router. The router does not limit > or share internet speed evenly, so if I download via TCP at full speed, others > complain about slow loading web pages. My comp has a FreeBSD OS. How can I > limit my upload and download speed to, say, 0.333 of the speed permitted by my > provider? Also, if I had a FreeBSD router, how could I share speed evenly? > You can pretty easily set up a FBSD router to shpe bandwidth like this. I have done exactly that using the PF firewall with ALTQ. Unfortunately, ALTQ is not availible as a loadable module, so if you want to use it, you'll have to recompile the kernel with support enabled. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls-pf.html http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ that should get you started > BTW: Is it true that are some types of traffic that need higher priority, such > as games using UDP, so that data does not lag? Absolutely it is true. I don't run any gaming through my firewall, but one great example is TCP ACK packets. If you are on an asymmetrical connection (up/down bandwith aren't equal) you should prioritize outgoing TCP ACK packets to the highest level, since this will improve download performance. You might want to look at ports/security/pfw if you're not familiar with pf syntax, and it can make building a ruleset a lot easier, at least for the first time. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -- I'm nerdy in the extreme and whiter than sour cream From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:39:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162316A400; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:39:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rapopp@eastcentral.edu) Received: from ecmail.eastcentral.edu (ecmail.eastcentral.edu [198.209.216.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F74413C461; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rapopp@eastcentral.edu) Received: from barbados.eastcentral.edu ([10.15.0.132]) by ecmail.eastcentral.edu (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0NFOkMd027658; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:24:46 -0600 From: "Reuben A. Popp" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:24:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1551696.7E2Cj8MWU0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200701230925.11930.rapopp@eastcentral.edu> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Best HBA cards to get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rapopp@eastcentral.edu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:39:38 -0000 --nextPart1551696.7E2Cj8MWU0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Morning everyone :) I was curious if anyone could reccomend the best supported/stable HBA cards= =20 available. 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Popp Systems Administrator Information Technology Department East Central College 1+ 636 583 5195 x2480 --nextPart1551696.7E2Cj8MWU0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFtijXf+ihZq7YgSMRAtJtAJ9n3bH1iAdKmHKgXnym+DzInbsDJACeMzGD uabNyGmhmANdQutVDvZ2O1k= =s4HM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1551696.7E2Cj8MWU0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 15:41:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FF816A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF23E13C468 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so1084740wra for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:41:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jMyzSfOjVFdL70xL3OqgYR/KEcO/DmxNSN0HE791xU0ln0kUi5sSbJwYQO+wCI8KP0tKyU0ouse2oeS2UVSYauD9qJ9/3tmDgAOifiL0W1ndd/KxjH7UvZ/gXvVQVS+p3aoz8r8+pA17JHhWPk7Ui/xu1Tovsr3/d5Csn2Jo320= Received: by 10.48.43.19 with SMTP id q19mr1236669nfq.1169566272786; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.22? ( [82.126.184.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c28sm2957824nfb.2007.01.23.07.31.11; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:31:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B62A3A.3050608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:31:06 +0100 From: "felix.schalck" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061223) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cardbus not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:41:56 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get a WLAN pcmcia card working on freebsd 6.2. Kernel with cardbus support compiled fine, but when the card is inserted, i get: Status is 0x30000086 Status is 0x30000820 cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 cbb0: cbb_power: 3V cbb0: cbb_power: 0V Dmesg shows: cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci2 cbb0: Found memory at e0202000 cbb0: Secondary bus is 2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 Any ideas ? What are my possibilities/chances to get it work ? Thanks a lot, Felix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 16:13:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC016A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E56213C465 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2007 15:46:50 -0000 Received: from AStrasbourg-251-1-87-24.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr (EHLO [192.168.1.22]) [82.126.184.24] by mail.gmx.net (mp053) with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 16:46:50 +0100 X-Authenticated: #23426003 Message-ID: <45B62DE9.1090907@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:46:49 +0100 From: "felix.schalck" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061223) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: cardbus not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:13:32 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to get a WLAN pcmcia card working on freebsd 6.2. Kernel with cardbus support compiled fine, but when the card is inserted, i get: Status is 0x30000086 Status is 0x30000820 cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 cbb0: cbb_power: 3V cbb0: cbb_power: 0V Dmesg shows: cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci2 cbb0: Found memory at e0202000 cbb0: Secondary bus is 2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 Any ideas ? What are my possibilities/chances to get it work ? Thanks a lot, Felix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 16:22:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8744616A4B3 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:22:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195F513C4C1 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so293518nfc for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:22:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=dP4FBAR9z+lSDnIgyy1JAsvCopVlOUl+Xu+6oTo8gV0DJrBSCmczgYGsF4j4Q5OGcc4N6hGqm796iTsbMd3bR01jDaWaMA74dYBCQRaS4MHxr+LENTPOs7T0y9O8+YVbJLCWdLeKptFP4h64dOjVEbmqdr/r6QmnUOIP+x85vtU= Received: by 10.49.41.12 with SMTP id t12mr1314859nfj.1169569369347; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.34? ( [194.125.99.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x27sm3126989nfb.2007.01.23.08.22.47; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:22:48 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd ORG From: eoghan Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:22:44 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:22:51 -0000 Hi Just a general question: should all values in rc.conf be in quotes... like: network_enable="rl0" Thanks Eoghan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 16:25:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0345516A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2363313C455 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i3so12927wra for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:25:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=fLjitr70vPCyejcsZLGEyXmFHcnlchnPD9i8hVukZtuLzToMWx6j+ee51sn/2AzVl5A80DwN4/kcNCRrCiBuvl2c1A7WMKkQNYnfC4DRaKlX3wRmkbzO8eJufIatWuB5+v2hmtfZJFRuC21do7fxACJkvE+MgY63cYMFXaLnTC8= Received: by 10.78.122.11 with SMTP id u11mr444490huc.1169569499498; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:24:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:24:59 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: eoghan In-Reply-To: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 173856f844cb07ca Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:25:04 -0000 On 1/23/07, eoghan wrote: > Hi > Just a general question: > should all values in rc.conf be in quotes... like: > network_enable="rl0" rc.conf is just a bourne shell script, so all sh(1) rules apply (no one really knows _all_ the rules, though). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 16:48:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7C016A404 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA2C13C45D for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1186269uge for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:48:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:from; b=dv6xL/xCVcU/UGhO4YeKNfOyHyxY4t6GN+A5b4qMhOnDreC/wnNeaXfnRTs977cQUxgDCDKSmuW+epxLij19v0u+/6KM20eNATihMgUjel4sdlqWuBT5vIPichaMijfaeb/x5hZp4MJGE7BHWDFzQCz7pifQ0U6dLf6mbaxGnD4= Received: by 10.78.205.7 with SMTP id c7mr455640hug.1169570418122; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.12? ( [81.86.47.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 40sm8381577hue.2007.01.23.08.40.17; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:40:17 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:40:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070123144903.9594813C4C1@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070123144903.9594813C4C1@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701231640.13650.jeffrey.rollin@gmail.com> From: Jeffrey Rollin Subject: Re: Image not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:48:31 -0000 On Tuesday 23 January 2007 14:52, VH-Brody wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), > 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want to > boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, but > obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. I'm out of > ideas and I've ruled out the system as at fault. > > If amd64 "boots up just fine", how is it that "it obviously doesn't work"? "64-bit Intel is ambiguous"; do you mean "Itanium" (also known as IA64) or "EMT64"? "EMT64" and amd64 are (almost) identical: the "amd64" moniker is used for both (a) because amd invented it; and (b) to avoid confusion with "ia64/itanium" Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 16:56:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CD316A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vanev@unisoft-ltd.com) Received: from unisoft-ltd.com (unisoft.pppoe.lan1.rousse.spnet.net [62.204.132.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C24813C4D3 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vanev@unisoft-ltd.com) Received: (qmail 11384 invoked by uid 1007); 23 Jan 2007 16:29:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Vanev) (vanev@unisoft-ltd.com@10.0.0.2) by unisoft-ltd.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 16:29:30 -0000 Message-ID: <008101c73f0b$3dd83c40$0200000a@Vanev> From: "George Vanev" To: "freebsd ORG" , "eoghan" References: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:26:31 +0200 Organization: Unisoft Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Cc: Subject: Re: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:56:18 -0000 In man rc.conf everything is written with double quotes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 17:26:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366B016A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: from outgoing.holservices.gr (outgoing.holservices.gr [62.38.2.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 782A813C45B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apatewna@yahoo.gr) Received: (qmail 23069 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 17:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO deliver.mail.dc.hol.net) (192.168.20.70) by arete.mail.dc.hol.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 17:26:37 -0000 Received: from auth-smtp.hol.gr (takeit02.mail.dc.hol.net [192.168.20.72]) by deliver.hol.gr (8.12.11/8.11.6) with ESMTP id l0NHQhO7008427 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 bits) verified OK) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:26:43 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.20] (ppp044-037.dsl.hol.gr [89.210.44.37]) by auth-smtp.hol.gr (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0NHQgEB020643 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:26:42 +0200 Message-ID: <45B64542.6000600@yahoo.gr> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:26:26 +0200 From: Apatewna User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Users Questions References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> <20070123151832.GB15419@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20070123151832.GB15419@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2480/Tue Jan 23 13:21:51 2007 on takeit02.mail.dc.hol.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: apatewna@yahoo.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:26:57 -0000 > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:16:59PM -0600, Damian Wiest wrote: > >>> >>> Forging ahead, I get ready to start playing the mounting game, but >>> lo-and-behold, suddenly I have 4 disks whereas in windows I had two. Now I >>> praise FreeBSD for it's superior intellect here, but now I have a problem. >>> I want two 160GB mirrored volumes, not 4 unmirrored ones. The RAID is an >>> ASUS P5DR1-VM motherboard with a ULI raid chipset onboard. Very nice setup >>> for the money. >>> >>> Is this normal? Am I going to break my mirror if I mount a single disk? If >>> so, how do I mount a mirror? I have a Gigabyte motherboard GA-7N400Pro2 with an onboard IDE RAID controller IT8212F. Two IDE disks of 80GB connected on it. I have created a RADI-1 volume using the onboard RAID utility and partitioned the volume (50-50) while installing windows. In windows I could see two primary partitions. When I installed FreeBSD 6.1, sysinstall gave me the option of installing on three different disks. The "ad0", "ad1" and "ar0". The last is the RAID-1 volume that FreeBSD recognises by default. I chose "ar0" and proceeded to install into the second partition of the volume. All well so far. I chose to install Gnome 2.16 from Tinderbox which brought HAL along the way. When I booted the Gnome desktop, I saw a sum of six partitions, thanks to HAL not separating/hiding the drives that the RAID-1 volume consists of (a known issue). Maybe this is what you see? I also wonder, since I have never had a true PCI RAID controller together with FreeBSD, if every RAID volume behaves like this. I am familiar with the term "soft-raid controller" and clarifying, it means that it is half implemented as hardware, and half as software (something like win-modems). That's why FreeBSD sees the detailed "interior" of the array - the driver can control the whole RAID process, add/remove member disks and so on. I could be wrong about this, gotta get some hardware to test. Thanasis Rizoulis Electronic Computing Systems Engineer Greece From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 17:42:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F227D16A404 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2FB13C471 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (qpszcd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0NHgmRA080915; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:42:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l0NHgmFi080914; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:42:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:42:48 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200701231742.l0NHgmFi080914@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, giorgosfm@yahoo.gr In-Reply-To: <20070123085847.90035.qmail@web27611.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:42:54 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Does 82915PM/GMS support dri??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, giorgosfm@yahoo.gr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:42:56 -0000 giorgosfm@yahoo.gr wrote: > i have a problem configuring dri support for my laptop (a celeron > 1.5Ghz, with i915GM GMCH chipset and 768Mb memory). Does anyone knows > firstly if there is a support for this chipset? If so, can you please > check the glxinfo and dmesg and tell me what's wrong? I also have a notebook with 915GM, and DRI works perfectly fine out of the box (using FreeBSD 6.2). For comparison, you can find dmesg, pciconf etc. here: http://www.secnetix.de/~olli/dmesg/centaur/ Make sure you have the "agp", "drm" and "i915drm" devices compiled into your kernel (or have them loaded as modules, but personally I prefer to compile them statically into my kernel). You should also have the latest version of the "graphics/dri" port installed (and latest version of X.org, of course). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > Can the denizens of this group enlighten me about what the > advantages of Python are, versus Perl ? "python" is more likely to pass unharmed through your spelling checker than "perl". -- An unknown poster and Fredrik Lundh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 17:50:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56C16A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5901913C45D for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff.rollin@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so320629nfc for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:50:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=ZHuNU5TJCeAJe8xDU8ZSoGPDd64kQqWtenziEfYMSLAM3iS9dJifovM+8YglXha5kq9cmsVUF1YyYxproW37jDJEeG4FfCzVYhc96dblckVmCIuQDRmHjz4MFQnq7wcQsH7NfjZSl2rLRnsp/fbQNWRTRGWllWKpJ1CcMSsThUw= Received: by 10.49.54.3 with SMTP id g3mr1515715nfk.1169574634069; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.12? ( [81.86.47.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c1sm6494115ugf.2007.01.23.09.50.33; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:50:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Rollin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:50:28 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701231750.29533.jeff.rollin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Image not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jeff.rollin@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:50:38 -0000 On Tuesday 23 January 2007 17:09, Your Name wrote: > amd64 & i386 won't install with this system, what I was trying to > explain is that the system hardware works just fine- its the fact that > the 6.2-RELEASE ia64 refuses to boot off of CD.. > > I've never had this problem with FBSD before, I also tried 6.1-RELEASE > ia64 with no luck. > > > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 14:52, VH-Brody wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), > > > 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want > > > to boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, > > > but obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. > > > I'm > I'm still not clear: I've never heard of an Itanium laptop. Is it Itanium (ia64), or amd64? The point I was trying to make is that amd64 is NOT limited to AMD. It is an extension to the x86 instruction set, created by AMD and in use by both AMD *and* Intel. IA64, or Itanium, is completely different. You most likely need amd64. If the amd64 iso boots up fine, then you have amd64 and the rest of the system should work. Jeff. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 17:54:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE716A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1A13C4C1 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0NHi9rX043657; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:44:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45B64963.7060902@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:44:03 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060925 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "felix.schalck" References: <45B62DE9.1090907@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <45B62DE9.1090907@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:54:18 -0000 felix.schalck wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a WLAN pcmcia card working on freebsd 6.2. Kernel with > cardbus support compiled fine, but when the card is inserted, i get: > > Status is 0x30000086 > Status is 0x30000820 > cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 > cbb0: cbb_power: 3V > cbb0: cbb_power: 0V > > Dmesg shows: > > cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci2 > cbb0: Found memory at e0202000 > cbb0: Secondary bus is 2 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > > Any ideas ? What are my possibilities/chances to get it work ? > First shot, and it's from the dark* ... You don't mention the type of WLAN card. It *looks to me as if* you don't have driver support for this card. What's the chipset, and have you researched to see if the card is supported? Also, what output does 'pciconf -l' produce? Kevin D. Kinsey *I'm not a wireless guru, and don't play one on TV. P.S. I didn't choose this .sig intentionally ;-) -- You'll feel much better once you've given up hope. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:14:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551E16A403 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3B613C4C9 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1206731uge for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:14:22 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LbhhVKSkDRboccRdNuOgfSJ48Lv8D1yf/Aq1qXLdaFA6DOuLuno3mw4a5EioVwCDJb+j177PyAMYYGGe7vOIDWUOnkLhFvca3fJkJfqoLX5IGydriqLkJCdRbVgOhZVyDHp2eavI0EG92BUZiE3UzBhYozhr8lLRJ26PqlPwnLk= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr192921buc.1169576061869; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.176.11 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:14:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90701231014k5d8fb5d3s605fe764adc1ee5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:14:21 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Damian Wiest" In-Reply-To: <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <539c60b90701161033v5e316ef4m19332bd6e86ab67b@mail.gmail.com> <20070123011659.GD22569@dfwdamian.vail> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7fc82bd650c5af1a Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: hardware mirrors recognized as individual disks in fbsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:14:24 -0000 dmesg gives me: atapci1: port 0xec00-0xec0f,0xe880-0xe887,0xe800-0xe80f,0xe480-0xe487,0xe400-0xe41f mem 0xdffff800-0xdffffbff irq 21 at device 31.1 on pci0 Two pairs of drives are identical in terms of partitions, and no ar0 devices found, So I'd guess I have one of those "crappy software raid's:" that you mention. Guess I'll buy 2 new disks, format to 165's, build a BSD-software raid, take the two of the origonals over to the neighbor's for an off-site backup. Thanks all, Steve On 1/22/07, Damian Wiest wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 11:33:47AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > > I'm tired of win2k crashing, and we won't even go into my opinion of vista's > > strongarm marketing tactics (read: changing my hardware means I have to pay > > again? they can keep their OS). > > > > Problem is, I've got 320GB of accumulated detrius on ntfs volumes to > > migrate. I see there is some good r/w ports for ntfs, so I'm willing to > > evaluate that to see if it's stable (shoestring budget here obviously - this > > is my personal stuff only). > > > > Forging ahead, I get ready to start playing the mounting game, but > > lo-and-behold, suddenly I have 4 disks whereas in windows I had two. Now I > > praise FreeBSD for it's superior intellect here, but now I have a problem. > > I want two 160GB mirrored volumes, not 4 unmirrored ones. The RAID is an > > ASUS P5DR1-VM motherboard with a ULI raid chipset onboard. Very nice setup > > for the money. > > > > Is this normal? Am I going to break my mirror if I mount a single disk? If > > so, how do I mount a mirror? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > -- > > Steve Franks, KE7BTE > > Staff Engineer > > La Palma Devices, LLC > > http://www.lapalmadevices.com > > (520) 312-0089 > > It sounds like your onboard RAID chip is either not supported, or the > appropriate driver is not being loaded. Can you post the output of > dmesg? > > Also, be aware that you may not really have a hardware RAID chip. > Many (most?) times the onboard chips simply make multiple disks look > like a single LUN to the operating system; they also require driver > support. Real hardware RAID chips/cards tend to be expensive, > proprietary, don't require an OS driver and include a battery backup > system for data in the RAID cache should the system lose power. > > You may want to read up on gmirror. > > -Damian > > ps. I've got at least a half-dozen different x86 system boards that > include these crappy RAID chips from vendors like nVidia, Intel, > Adaptec, LSI, etc. Typically you get closed-source, Windows-only > driver support. > > pps. If you do want real hardware RAID support under FreeBSD, I've had > great experiences with the Promise arrays (m500 and m300) and > one of the PCI cards (I'd have to check on the exact model). > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:18:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD6916A51B for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vangyzen@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42E913C455 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vangyzen@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f31so843392pyh for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:18:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=juv3gxguvVgpPNlKNhqLEXITjyVMjm1oz+17/zA7sV1BJRpVEjyMrbEOZc8Miuk6tdn1lIzfWbdjBaXOSzXC4165Oy7xXXAjI30+CFMEDiQVUk7irrjHh+Yb/wqxi+LW4RsRBR3Gw+suvuLygojweJYN5QNo8EoyEPuN7UUkSxA= Received: by 10.35.96.11 with SMTP id y11mr13359285pyl.1169574588200; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:49:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.79.17 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <68678f9f0701230949p2e729d10v43f029e75e7a6690@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:49:48 -0600 From: "Eric van Gyzen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ath(4) as hostap on sparc64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:18:52 -0000 Does anyone have experience using an ath(4) card as a host access point on a sparc64 machine? Does it work? I'm just asking before I waste time installing, configuring, etc. Thanks, Eric From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:20:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0B616A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4657413C47E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (zcdsdy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0NIK7Qs082583; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:20:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l0NIK79c082582; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:20:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:20:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200701231820.l0NIK79c082582@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, brody@versehost.com In-Reply-To: <20070123144903.9594813C4C1@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:20:13 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Image not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, brody@versehost.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:20:14 -0000 VH-Brody wrote: > I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), > 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want to > boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, but > obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. I'm out of > ideas and I've ruled out the system as at fault. > > What do you guys think? I think you're confusing ia64 and amd64. Most likely your system is amd64-compliant, _not_ ia64. If it was ia64, then the amd64 CD wouldn't boot at all (i.e. it would be dead right from the start). If the amd64 CD boots successfully, then you definitely have an amd64-compliant system, and both amd64 (for a 64bit system) and i386 (for a 32bit system) should work fine. If you have problems installing amd64 later on, then please tell us exactly what the problem is (i.e. at which step during installation, what have you tried, what are the error messages, etc.). When the and64 CD has successfully booted to the sysinstall utility, you can press the ScrollLock key and then the PageUp key to scroll back through the boot messages. At the top there should be a line telling you what kind of CPU exactly your system has. Hope that helps. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:31:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1D816A405 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD7613C4C9 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0NIQU4F016307; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:26:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0NIQUtB016306; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:26:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:26:30 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: eoghan Message-ID: <20070123182630.GD16158@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd ORG Subject: Re: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:31:47 -0000 On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 04:22:44PM +0000, eoghan wrote: > Hi > Just a general question: > should all values in rc.conf be in quotes... like: > network_enable="rl0" It is a good idea. I think, if there is no white space in the value, then you can get away without it, but maybe I have my shells confused in my mind. Anyway, using the quotes will always be OK. ////jerry > Thanks > Eoghan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:34:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8696016A414 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2123213C4B8 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:34:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eoghanj@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1211697uge for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HSTs6dn0VlbFC1s09l+U23aOchQCrPRgpxi/WGhcNqIG2L2ODFSYQ8Yd2k6U7isavtWyixH0LLN4Jv4N/60oIKsR7ovB/8S8Q2cayyUEDIf6AmfnVlzQhGePllJ5OF7++spvRcBUvggEzzjj5abpR4ivwaeD819NFpCn8SN+lRk= Received: by 10.67.19.20 with SMTP id w20mr8974532ugi.1169577291430; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.34? ( [194.125.99.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h1sm6699546ugf.2007.01.23.10.34.50; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20070123182630.GD16158@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <603807C4-19A7-4956-9E64-2EF5B1552D1E@gmail.com> <20070123182630.GD16158@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: eoghan Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:34:48 +0000 To: Jerry McAllister X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd ORG Subject: Re: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:34:53 -0000 On 23 Jan 2007, at 18:26, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> Hi >> Just a general question: >> should all values in rc.conf be in quotes... like: >> network_enable="rl0" > > It is a good idea. I think, if there is no white space in the value, > then you can get away without it, but maybe I have my shells confused > in my mind. Anyway, using the quotes will always be OK. ok thanks to all who replied. Eoghan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 18:52:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAB416A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from server1.tntpowerhost.com (server1.tntpowerhost.com [208.100.3.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE25813C4BF for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:51:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@mkproductions.org) Received: from ppp-70-247-252-64.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net ([70.247.252.64] helo=localhost) by server1.tntpowerhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H9QkU-0007PH-61 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:52:02 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 12:51:56 -0600 From: Mark Kane To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123125156.6e9d20b4@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.1cvs47 (GTK+ 2.10.7; x86_64-unknown-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.tntpowerhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mkproductions.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: nForce5 Status / Socket AM2 Board Suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:52:00 -0000 Hi everyone. I'm trying to build a new machine to replace my existing workstation. So far with all the motherboard research I've been doing, most of the available boards that have the configurations I need use nForce5 chipsets (such as 570 or 590). I've searched around and have seen that nForce5 is not fully supported in FreeBSD yet with some problems with SATA and also possibly network (I understand the nfe driver might solve the net part). SATA and network are important so I started looking at AM2 nForce4 boards and have found a couple possibilities, but not nearly as many as nForce5 (and not necessarily from manufacturers that I particularly like). One of the problems with the AM2 nForce4 boards is the lack of dual gigabit LAN. That could be solved by adding in a PCI gigabit LAN card which is fine, but then I need a minimum of 3 PCI and only a few boards seem to have that in AM2 using nForce4. So, I'm wondering what the status of nForce5 support is currently, and if there are any recommendations for boards that are compatible with FreeBSD/amd64 and meet the following requirements: - Socket AM2 - Athlon64 X2 CPU (probably a 5200+) - At least two PCI Slots (but as many as possible) - Dual gigabit LAN (or single gigabit with min 3x PCI as noted above) - At least four SATA (more preferred) - At least one PATA - At least one PCI Express x16 I'd prefer to go nForce5 if possible since the board selection for my requirements is much greater and I've already got a couple picked out that are very good candidates. I also don't want to go with the older nForce4 if support for nForce5 is very close to being finished or if I'm missing something else. Thanks very much in advance. -Mark -- Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 19:09:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8991116A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EC113C457 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jc@irbs.com) Received: from exuma.irbs.com (exuma.irbs.com [216.86.160.225]) by mxout-04.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EE9A3231 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by exuma.irbs.com (Postfix, from userid 2500) id 0FCD9BA8A; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:09:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:09:20 -0500 From: John Capo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070123190920.GA26413@exuma.irbs.com> References: <20070121015703.GA67097@exuma.irbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070121015703.GA67097@exuma.irbs.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: PV entry limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jc@irbs.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:09:21 -0000 Hopefully answering one of my own questions will save someone else some time. > If there is enough KVA now, what kept more PV entries from being > allocated when needed? Used plus free PV entries has been stuck > at 2520365 for days. The PV ENTRY limit shown with sysctl vm is off by vm_page_array_size. 90% of (PV LIMIT - vm_page_array_size) is the value of pv_entry_high_water and that is where used pv entries + free pv entries sticks. Still puzzling over whether I need more KVA, more KMEM, or both. Quoting John Capo (jc@irbs.com): > I got the infamous pmap_collect: collecting pv entries message 5 > times within 4 hours 12 days ago. The machine is a Cyrus IMAP > server with 4Gigs of memory peaking around 2000 IMAP processes and > a about 200 other processes. The machine is running 4.11 with these > compile tweaks. > > options PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=300 > options KVA_PAGES=384 > > and one sysctl boot tweak. > > kern.maxfiles=60000 > > Open files are 30K or so with about 200MB of shared files mmapped > into each IMAP process. > > sysctl vm | grep PV every 10 seconds shows this. > > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2501404, 18961, 296551065 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2501472, 18893, 296563037 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2513275, 7090, 296601432 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 151597, 2368768, 296689650 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 211052, 2309313, 296783099 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 283356, 2237009, 296896244 > > Used plus free PV entries is 2520365 which is considerably less > that the 3749470 PV entry limit. > > AFAICT, I have plenty of kernel space available to allocate more > PV entries from. > > ITEM SIZE LIMIT USED FREE REQUESTS > > PIPE: 160, 0, 522, 294, 22806126 > SWAPMETA: 160, 233016, 14858, 29455, 3964171 > unpcb: 160, 0, 2659, 4541, 15805192 > ripcb: 192, 12328, 2, 40, 31222 > syncache: 160, 15359, 0, 76, 8077824 > tcpcb: 576, 12328, 1391, 2889, 10030866 > udpcb: 192, 12328, 33, 73, 11663049 > socket: 224, 12328, 4086, 6848, 37530493 > DIRHASH: 1024, 0, 1684, 292, 8344073 > KNOTE: 64, 0, 2, 126, 9094626 > NFSNODE: 352, 0, 6, 14118, 105689 > NFSMOUNT: 544, 0, 3, 11, 6 > VNODE: 192, 0, 216941, 41, 216941 > NAMEI: 1024, 0, 1, 255, 3156465410 > VMSPACE: 192, 0, 1352, 2168, 9106225 > PROC: 416, 0, 1403, 2223, 15245401 > DP fakepg: 64, 0, 0, 0, 0 > PV ENTRY: 28, 3749470, 2263440, 256925, 801513627 > MAP ENTRY: 48, 0, 64374, 99039, 862331760 > KMAP ENTRY: 48, 73807, 8234, 256, 30468915 > MAP: 108, 0, 7, 3, 7 > VM OBJECT: 92, 0, 215656, 64792, 403861231 > vm.zone_kmem_pages: 13773 > vm.zone_kmem_kvaspace: 136269824 > vm.zone_kern_pages: 21225 > vm.kvm_size: 1606414336 > vm.kvm_free: 494923776 > > Obviously I need to bump PMAP_SHPGPERPROC some more. > > Do I need more KVA also? > > If there is enough KVA now, what kept more PV entries from being > allocated when needed? Used plus free PV entries has been stuck > at 2520365 for days. > > I know 4.11 is EOL but switching to [56].something is just not an > option right now. > > Thanks, > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 19:22:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E0416A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7309813C4C2 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stapleton.41@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so1222890uge for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:22:06 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rJgR5vogT8J6rzydTEMU5qHi2F2z/Omwf98hHycfKpP/+qDAdwEEEtzooKYc46WzYzooSybUKrH7LxDubH/iQQxihqW9qZZb2+DsExd1BTglLFtwod1S06RryZm7snFMxkMaTnBqgtU2XJQKMNmpYAY8WN5oMJ6t9DZlG5IeXtw= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr253589buc.1169580126145; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.191.16 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:22:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <80f4f2b20701231122s4e7b1f68g6671bc95f1ba210c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:22:05 -0500 From: "Jim Stapleton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: USB2 drive speed problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:22:07 -0000 I have a notebook that has a USB2 controller. In windows I can get a 14MB/s data transfer rate in Windows (write) to my USB drive. However in BSD, I only get a 630KB/s transfer rate. Whats the best way to ascertain *why* I'm getting this slow performance? I'm not sure which diagnostic steps to take at this point. I know I had the USB2 modules compiled into my kernel. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 20:42:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E3A16A408 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reevejd@mchsi.com) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7100413C448 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reevejd@mchsi.com) Received: from gateway (unknown[12.206.242.117]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id <20070123203230m9100nrco0e>; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:32:30 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c73f2d$9a592480$75f2ce0c@GATEWAY> From: "John D. Reeve" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:32:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: SCSI not found during install - help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:42:33 -0000 Hello All, I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a system consisting of an Ampro Littleboard 486 with 32 Mb ram, a built-in Adaptec 6360 SCSI controller, an 18.2 Gb Quantum Atlas III SCSI drive (50 pin narrow), a 256 Mb IDE flash drive containing MS-DOS, and an IDE CD drive. I want FreeBSD to take over the entire SCSI drive. The SCSI drive has been low-level formatted using the software that came with the Ampro for the Adaptec controller. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 using three floppies (boot, kernel 1, kernel 2) and CD's containing the rest of the system. Here is the problem. After booting with the floppies and getting to the point where I'm supposed to select the drive for FreeBSD, the install program doesn't see the SCSI drive. It does see the IDE flash drive. The odd thing is that under MS-DOS, the fdisk program finds the SCSI drive and allows me to partition it, at least a 230 Mb piece of it. I can format this piece for DOS and copy files to it, so the drive does seem to be working. I have the BIOS configured to see the SCSI as the second hard drive in the system. According to the documentation with the Ampro, the BIOS can supposedly handle drives of this size or larger. Thanks for any help! Cheers, John R. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 21:39:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956416A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E480413C45A for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0NLd0cG094924; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:35:07 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <001f01c73f2d$9a592480$75f2ce0c@GATEWAY> In-Reply-To: <001f01c73f2d$9a592480$75f2ce0c@GATEWAY> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701231635.07650.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: "John D. Reeve" Subject: Re: SCSI not found during install - help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:39:01 -0000 On Tuesday 23 January 2007 15:32, John D. Reeve wrote: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a system consisting of an Ampro > Littleboard 486 with 32 Mb ram, a built-in Adaptec 6360 SCSI controller, an > 18.2 Gb Quantum Atlas III SCSI drive (50 pin narrow), a 256 Mb IDE flash > drive containing MS-DOS, and an IDE CD drive. I want FreeBSD to take over > the entire SCSI drive. The SCSI drive has been low-level formatted using > the software that came with the Ampro for the Adaptec controller. I'm > trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 using three floppies (boot, kernel 1, kernel > 2) and CD's containing the rest of the system. Sounds like you're well prepared. > Here is the problem. After booting with the floppies and getting to the > point where I'm supposed to select the drive for FreeBSD, the install > program doesn't see the SCSI drive. It does see the IDE flash drive. The > odd thing is that under MS-DOS, the fdisk program finds the SCSI drive and > allows me to partition it, at least a 230 Mb piece of it. I can format > this piece for DOS and copy files to it, so the drive does seem to be > working. I have the BIOS configured to see the SCSI as the second hard > drive in the system. According to the documentation with the Ampro, the > BIOS can supposedly handle drives of this size or larger. DOS just uses BIOS calls to access the hard drive. FreeBSD and other real operating systems that expect decent drive performance use actual real drivers to access the hardware. In this case, the driver you need isn't enabled by default in recent versions of FreeBSD. You most likely want to use the aic(4) driver for your controller. Fortunately for you it _is_ included in the GENERIC kernel, but is just disabled in device.hints. To install, you'll need to escape to the boot loader prompt before the kernel is booted and type something like the following: set hint.aic.0.disabled="0" Then type "boot" to continue the normal bootup process. This is just off the top of my head and based on the aic(4) manpage and GENERIC and device.hints from my 6.2-RELEASE desktop; I haven't used your controller and I'm not 100% sure of the syntax for the preboot environment. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 21:46:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0748416A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: from gdead.mooseriver.com (gdead.mooseriver.com [205.166.121.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801BD13C4B7 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: by gdead.mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 2010) id 45B873C9EEC; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:46:22 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on gdead.mooseriver.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=no version=3.1.7 Received: from mooseriver.com (adsl-75-61-201-134.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.61.201.134]) by gdead.mooseriver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4223C9EE8; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by mooseriver.com (Postfix, from userid 200) id 7D06F2E5C10; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:46:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:46:19 -0800 From: Josef Grosch To: "Reuben A. Popp" Message-ID: <20070123214619.GA71508@mooseriver.com> References: <200701230925.11930.rapopp@eastcentral.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200701230925.11930.rapopp@eastcentral.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: Moose River, LLC Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best HBA cards to get? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:46:23 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 09:24:59AM -0600, Reuben A. Popp wrote: > Morning everyone :) >=20 > I was curious if anyone could reccomend the best supported/stable HBA car= ds=20 > available. I've poked around a bit and found that there is support for t= he=20 > Qlogic cards using isp(4), but that dosen't seem to cover most (if not al= l)=20 > of their newer cards. Anyone have a suggestion please? >=20 > Thanks in advance=20 > Reuben A. Popp We have had a lot of luck with the Qlogic HBA cards. We tried the LSI but we could not get it to work correctly. Stick with the Qlogic. Josef --=20 Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 6.2 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | Berkeley, Ca. --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFFtoIqy8prLS1GYSERAgTHAKDjPvuc0h/hxEzNOPCCpFwo4OeD5wCgyL4w L1EWUFfyazDeNkUpCunhimE= =d2vB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 22:13:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0F16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4A1A13C455 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@placidpublishing.net) Received: (qmail 26906 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 22:13:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.20?) (fr0zen@sbcglobal.net@71.143.226.57 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 22:13:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4kobb5cVM1lJ7ZGiFqhXjLqoR7s_fNPJPi93OMSpZ_NIrzP0mzji3J2LtK5pLWqkg4BB8PRnqVhJGfUtamOzDXXYguZDkSNx8N3kUWALGwA8FYnd.4xS9n_vzCIskEFpimeu0XqbPomTc_pzqIz46fEpwTnbL7uSAXjLGwpoZcAju2fmHYUXvXpB_oHC Message-ID: <45B68887.3070105@placidpublishing.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:13:27 -0600 From: Peter Pluta User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> In-Reply-To: <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:13:15 -0000 I've gotten a few replies and i've tried almost all of the suggestions but the problem still resides. I re-installed rsync on both box's and it still does this. Peter Pluta wrote: > Anyone? > > Peter Pluta wrote: >> I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a >> freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every >> night at 5am (it's below). >> >> Shell script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> . `dirname $0`/settings.inc >> destination=**.***.***.***::backup >> if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ >> $destination >> >> After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: >> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: >> Broken pipe (32) >> rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) >> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at >> io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] >> >> Dmesg on the box only shows this: >> em0: promiscuous mode enabled >> em0: promiscuous mode disabled >> >> But that is probably pretty old. >> >> What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they >> don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few >> files. >> >> Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 22:19:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CFF16A402 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73ECC13C4C2 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H9Tzo-00058E-1d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:20:04 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.7 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:20:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <62343.192.168.11.7.1169590804.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <45B68887.3070105@placidpublishing.net> References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> <45B68887.3070105@placidpublishing.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:20:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:19:15 -0000 Hi, > I've gotten a few replies and i've tried almost all of the suggestions > but the problem still resides. I re-installed rsync on both box's and it > still does this. Most likely won't help, but do you have any sort of traffic shaping between the two boxes (not sure if they are on the same LAN or remote), but it is something to check - give appropriate bandwidth for the operation. If they are remotely localted, how about trying to rsync locally (picking up a similar machine) and see if you get the same error. I am not a technical guy. I am just suggesting to check QoS. Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 22:20:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EEB16A416 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregoryba@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA7813C4DB for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:20:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gregoryba@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id m19so387721nfc for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O309O8jwbeKAaqx7nANF/i13Hf5o8XC5CnA1e4d6M5g1STt0nC/FE4uWzYg0cv7phm3/FefU284FxhoxfiLaDIL8Kr4Ss0AiJf3zTPcasnE7LsNIokNCIDJ3huQ2HYbgpzf9O647bnCpQButuFhuVw33a+zOcTwO/DawbtFf9LY= Received: by 10.48.230.5 with SMTP id c5mr1849220nfh.1169590808082; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.202.3 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39ed86f90701231420qeee37a0y12f75f27e76bf443@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:20:08 -0800 From: "Greg Albrecht" To: "Peter Pluta" In-Reply-To: <45B68887.3070105@placidpublishing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B4032C.3070404@placidpublishing.net> <45B5295D.3020205@placidpublishing.net> <45B68887.3070105@placidpublishing.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:20:10 -0000 just to go through what i'd normally check: 1) make sure the source host is up at 100full 2) make sure the port the source host is plugged into is 100full 3) make sure the destination host is up at 100full 4) make sure the port the destination host is plugged into is 100full given all of that, if you still have trouble you might want to start doing some packet dumps and see if one host or the other are terminating the connection: $ tcpdump -n -vvv -s 1518 -g On 23/01/07, Peter Pluta wrote: > I've gotten a few replies and i've tried almost all of the suggestions > but the problem still resides. I re-installed rsync on both box's and it > still does this. > > > Peter Pluta wrote: > > Anyone? > > > > Peter Pluta wrote: > >> I have a win2k3 server running as my rsync server. I also have a > >> freebsd web server being the rsync client. A shell script runs every > >> night at 5am (it's below). > >> > >> Shell script: > >> > >> #!/bin/sh > >> . `dirname $0`/settings.inc > >> destination=**.***.***.***::backup > >> if [ "$TERM" ]; then verbose=-v; fi > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/etc/ $destination > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /usr/local/lib/sasl2/ $destination > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /var/cron/ $destination > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /root/ $destination > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after /etc/ $destination > >> rsync $verbose -azR --delete-after --exclude httpd-*.log $wwwDir/ > >> $destination > >> > >> After it runs for 5 minutes it throws this: > >> rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes [sender]: > >> Broken pipe (32) > >> rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer (54) > >> rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at > >> io.c(613) [sender=2.6.9] > >> > >> Dmesg on the box only shows this: > >> em0: promiscuous mode enabled > >> em0: promiscuous mode disabled > >> > >> But that is probably pretty old. > >> > >> What can the problem be? backups are really important to me and they > >> don't currently work as the transfer times out after the first few > >> files. > >> > >> Anyone got an idea? Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Peter > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Greg Albrecht (gregoryba@gmail.com) An Indie, Hip Hop and IDM Podcast: The Letter G http://theletterg.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 22:31:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F1516A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC84813C478 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0NMUqsJ008998; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:30:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070123162726.025a1d98@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:30:39 -0600 To: "John D. Reeve" , From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <001f01c73f2d$9a592480$75f2ce0c@GATEWAY> References: <001f01c73f2d$9a592480$75f2ce0c@GATEWAY> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: SCSI not found during install - help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:31:18 -0000 You can play with your BIOS settings. In the last part of the installer it will give a list of found drives. You should be using a generic kernel for the install. However in all this, with only 32 MB RAM, it seems a bit pointless. You would do better spending a few dollars for a more current system board you can add some memory to, as you should have at LEAST 64 MB, but I rarely have a system with less than 512 MB if not more. -Derek At 02:32 PM 1/23/2007, John D. Reeve wrote: >Hello All, > >I'm trying to install FreeBSD on a system consisting of an Ampro >Littleboard 486 with 32 Mb ram, a built-in Adaptec 6360 SCSI controller, >an 18.2 Gb Quantum Atlas III SCSI drive (50 pin narrow), a 256 Mb IDE >flash drive containing MS-DOS, and an IDE CD drive. I want FreeBSD to >take over the entire SCSI drive. The SCSI drive has been low-level >formatted using the software that came with the Ampro for the Adaptec >controller. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 using three floppies (boot, >kernel 1, kernel 2) and CD's containing the rest of the system. > >Here is the problem. After booting with the floppies and getting to the >point where I'm supposed to select the drive for FreeBSD, the install >program doesn't see the SCSI drive. It does see the IDE flash drive. The >odd thing is that under MS-DOS, the fdisk program finds the SCSI drive and >allows me to partition it, at least a 230 Mb piece of it. I can format >this piece for DOS and copy files to it, so the drive does seem to be >working. I have the BIOS configured to see the SCSI as the second hard >drive in the system. According to the documentation with the Ampro, the >BIOS can supposedly handle drives of this size or larger. > >Thanks for any help! > >Cheers, >John R. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 22:48:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA1F16A401 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960DC13C459 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [10.0.0.100] (crayfish.unsane.co.uk [10.0.0.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0NMmxot097683 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:59 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45B690AA.9060400@unsane.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:10 +0000 From: Vince Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gilbert Cao References: <200701172234.12466.daniel.tourde@spray.se> <45AEC0F4.3070900@unsane.co.uk> <20070121145925.GA3130@bsdmon.com> In-Reply-To: <20070121145925.GA3130@bsdmon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, daniel.tourde@spray.se Subject: Re: How to install the 3945ABG Driver on a fresh FreeBSD 6.2 install? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:48:36 -0000 Gilbert Cao wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:36:04AM +0000, Vince Hoffman wrote: > >> I hate to say this but this driver only seems to compile on -CURRENT as >> far as i can tell (and as far as the conversation at >> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=0+0+archive/2007/freebsd-drivers/20070107.freebsd-drivers >> leads me to believe.) >> There is another less complete driver floating around that is usable on >> 6.x although it only works for some people and even then only at 6 meg >> (i believe the conversation i linked contains links to that driver if >> you dont fancy running current.) >> >> Vince >> > > Hi, > > I think you are talking about that one > http://people.freebsd.org/~flz/local/wpi/wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz > about a "less complete driver" "usable on 6.x". > And, yes, I have tried it, but it did not work for me. (I don't know yet > how it works for some people). > In my case, with ifconfig, the status is still on "no carrier". > No "associated" status. > > Hi, Could be although i got it from a different source. > About the following, > http://www.clearchain.com/~benjsc/download/20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz > basically yes, it only compiles on -CURRENT. I have tried it and it > works for me. > > > As I wanted to stay on 6.x, I have installed a 6.2-RELEASE, and tried to > make the 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz compiles. > Here, you will find the result of my work : > http://www.bsdmon.com/download/20070121-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz > > Excelent, just got a chance to try this on an unsecured network (couldnt get wep to work but i dont tend to need it anyway,) works great, got more than the 6 meg connection speed the other one i was using gave me. > To make it compiles, I basically started from 20070107-wpi-freebsd.tar.gz > and took some code on wpi-freebsd-20061109.tgz. > > Now, this new one compiles and it works for me : > "status: associated" on ifconfig output. > Don't ask why I do this or that, in the code. I don't really know :p. > First, I just wanted to make the latest package I found, compile. > And, on the plus side, it works for me. > In the package, I have kept the original file as .orig, so you will see > what I have added and changed. > > My programming skill are limited to shell and perl (and limited even then) so i'll take your word for it. > I have intentionally commented WPI_DEBUG and WPI_CURRENT. > About WPI_CURRENT, this have to be commented, on 6.x. > About WPI_DEBUG, it is just that I wanted to get rid of lots of output, > in my daily use. > > > Hope it helps ;) > > It does indeed. many thanks, Vince From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 23:42:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D12E16A400 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from strbenjr@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22CA913C4B8 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from strbenjr@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 4649 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 23:16:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UtkCIGCnB07J0W/xbh2Zh1Ej+oZlxbVf0JU+HamTiAt6L7xN67m4r5sA5fKmSx3FDrR4W+BAoqxr6CNnkYdrH3N0BhOFux7ncSaocVVUrLVbHmw/Q+gJV/PgfphKdzNMxodiCWD3zripy7JFmKddRj3Ckm8gRTfkY1MLD4ct+PI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.7.202?) (strbenjr@69.143.49.135 with plain) by smtp104.plus.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 23:16:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: bp9yN4gVM1nEP3sjNeLoKiAaAbbjqYd3BGlIgdySpmh38wWfQUMKe3hEV4kkC_HtHF2kO4wnB7C6a8rYJDrsPs3pz8gOxMSNHGne1rT5L4tBFKQWIurJK8dpbgWyxFLAlFH2TdTDAuE6adPxae4vxL0OMf_gEfq.hQ-- Message-ID: <45B6973D.3010405@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:16:13 -0500 From: Ben Hacker Jr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061224) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stable FBSD , questions FBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Audio (Record) not functioning... (record interrupt timeout) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:42:56 -0000 Any help will be Greatly appreciated! I currently believe this is a problem with the "snd_t4dwave" driver device" Please respond directly as well as to the list. Thanks! http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=45514 [HISTORY] http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?p=242514 [More Detail] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/...rch/003877.html [Related Links] http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-L...05-10/0446.html I am trying to get Skype or Vonage softphone(via wine) working on my notebook. My problem is getting the input from the mic to the application. The "mic" is working because I can talk and hear the sound via the external speakers. If (on command line mixer) I turn the "rec" and "igain" to 0 the I CAN still hear any sound I make via the mic on the attached speakers. If I turn "mic" to 0 then I cannot hear any sound I make via the mic on the attached speakers. Here is the error I am seeing on the system console: pcm0:record:0:dsp0.0: record interrupt timeout, channel dead Here are my settings: user@sony$ uname -a FreeBSD sony.family.hom 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #2: Tue Dec 19 16:55:50 EST 2006 root@sony.family.hom :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SONY01 i386 user@sony$ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x1800 irq 9 kld snd_t4dwave (4p/1r/4v channels duplex default) user@sony$ dmesg | grep pcm pcm0: port 0x1800-0x18ff mem 0xe8100000-0xe8100fff at device 6.0 on pci0 pcm0: pcm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] pcm0:record:0:dsp0.0: record interrupt timeout, channel dead pcm0:record:0:dsp0.0: record interrupt timeout, channel dead user@sony$ sysctl hw.snd hw.snd.report_soft_formats: 1 hw.snd.targetirqrate: 32 hw.snd.verbose: 1 hw.snd.maxautovchans: 4 hw.snd.unit: 0 hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize: 4096 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans: 4 -- Ben Network Systems Administrator strbenjr {at} yahoo.com -- -- -- http://www.coeba.org http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=1419445n From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 23 23:47:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCEE16A406 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from gamma.dnsresolution.net (54.ce.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.206.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C1413C43E for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from wnpgmb06dc1-181-149.dynamic.mts.net ([142.161.181.149] helo=batman) by gamma.dnsresolution.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H9VMd-0005QN-LE; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:47:44 -0500 From: "VH-Brody" To: , Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:51:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acc/HBqGz52PYwtaSuqbzHxeevkqaAALTFCQ In-Reply-To: <200701231820.l0NIK79c082582@lurza.secnetix.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gamma.dnsresolution.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - versehost.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20070123234756.B3C1413C43E@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Image not booting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:47:56 -0000 Ok guys, I got the amd64 cd booted, it goes through the CD Loader, and the splash screen comes up (I hit enter, selecting the default). It runs through all the stuff, and the last thing I caught on the screen was VGA ISA something, then the system reboots. Does this everytime. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Oliver Fromme [mailto:olli@lurza.secnetix.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; brody@versehost.com Subject: Re: Image not booting VH-Brody wrote: > I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), > 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want to > boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, but > obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. I'm out of > ideas and I've ruled out the system as at fault. > > What do you guys think? I think you're confusing ia64 and amd64. Most likely your system is amd64-compliant, _not_ ia64. If it was ia64, then the amd64 CD wouldn't boot at all (i.e. it would be dead right from the start). If the amd64 CD boots successfully, then you definitely have an amd64-compliant system, and both amd64 (for a 64bit system) and i386 (for a 32bit system) should work fine. If you have problems installing amd64 later on, then please tell us exactly what the problem is (i.e. at which step during installation, what have you tried, what are the error messages, etc.). When the and64 CD has successfully booted to the sysinstall utility, you can press the ScrollLock key and then the PageUp key to scroll back through the boot messages. At the top there should be a line telling you what kind of CPU exactly your system has. Hope that helps. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:00:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB5816A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B0313C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O10JVX022508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:00:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O10JEN001375 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:00:19 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:00:19 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:00:19 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.164432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: [OT] What does this pipe do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:00:20 -0000 I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". Thanks, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:01:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744E916A407 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F7113C480 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O11lGr023082 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:01:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O11lt4003462 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:01:47 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:01:47 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.164932 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:01:48 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, eoghan wrote: > On 23 Jan 2007, at 18:26, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> >>> Hi >>> Just a general question: >>> should all values in rc.conf be in quotes... like: >>> network_enable="rl0" >> >> It is a good idea. I think, if there is no white space in the value, >> then you can get away without it, but maybe I have my shells confused >> in my mind. Anyway, using the quotes will always be OK. > > ok thanks to all who replied. > Eoghan I always use quotes because it's easier to follow along with and in case of whitespace, the rc.conf parser won't bail / give the relevant command incorrect values, IIRC. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:02:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AC116A408 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from gamma.dnsresolution.net (54.ce.1343.static.theplanet.com [67.19.206.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5C013C4F2 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brody@versehost.com) Received: from wnpgmb06dc1-181-149.dynamic.mts.net ([142.161.181.149] helo=batman) by gamma.dnsresolution.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H9WWp-00041m-Ku for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:02:20 -0500 From: "VH-Brody" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:06:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acc/HBqGz52PYwtaSuqbzHxeevkqaAALTFCQAAKYE9A= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2742.200 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gamma.dnsresolution.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - versehost.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20070124010223.0B5C013C4F2@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: Image not booting (update) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:02:23 -0000 Ok, so I disconnected to two Raptor drives in the system, and now the system does not reboot, rather it sits at this error: Fatal trap 12....Cannot dump. No dump defined. I researched it and found to disable PNP in the BIOS...i'm off to try that. Anything else I should look for? -----Original Message----- From: VH-Brody [mailto:brody@versehost.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:52 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; brody@versehost.com Subject: RE: Image not booting Ok guys, I got the amd64 cd booted, it goes through the CD Loader, and the splash screen comes up (I hit enter, selecting the default). It runs through all the stuff, and the last thing I caught on the screen was VGA ISA something, then the system reboots. Does this everytime. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Oliver Fromme [mailto:olli@lurza.secnetix.de] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:20 PM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; brody@versehost.com Subject: Re: Image not booting VH-Brody wrote: > I've downloaded multiple copies (from different FTP servers), > 6.2-RELEASE-ia64 and it seems like this particular image doesn't want to > boot up in my system. The i386 and amd64 distro's bootup just fine, but > obviously don't work because system architecture is 64bit Intel. I'm out of > ideas and I've ruled out the system as at fault. > > What do you guys think? I think you're confusing ia64 and amd64. Most likely your system is amd64-compliant, _not_ ia64. If it was ia64, then the amd64 CD wouldn't boot at all (i.e. it would be dead right from the start). If the amd64 CD boots successfully, then you definitely have an amd64-compliant system, and both amd64 (for a 64bit system) and i386 (for a 32bit system) should work fine. If you have problems installing amd64 later on, then please tell us exactly what the problem is (i.e. at which step during installation, what have you tried, what are the error messages, etc.). When the and64 CD has successfully booted to the sysinstall utility, you can press the ScrollLock key and then the PageUp key to scroll back through the boot messages. At the top there should be a line telling you what kind of CPU exactly your system has. Hope that helps. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse. -- Larry Wall _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" __________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:05:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1067616A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5B613C441 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0O150jM078278 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l0O1503s078271 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:05:00 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20070124010459.GA77770@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: Subject: How ignorant a question is this?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:05:02 -0000 Guys, Dunno how dumb this question is to ask, but given the breadth of knowledge on this list, this is the place; esp'ly since my question involves web-crawlers. Or spiders[?] So I'm thinking of setting loose my own crawler to search. Are there any network tools that will search for pages with a TOPIC and look for any kind of subtopics? Say the TOP="dogfood" and the subtopics are "for poodles", "standard poodles", "black poodles." i Am pretty good with the search engines, but I thought: just for the hell of it.... Any feedback will be greatly appreciated. tia, people, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:11:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2658B16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEF213C4BB for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay7.apple.com (relay7.apple.com [17.128.113.37]) by mail-out3.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0O1BJGa028562; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:11:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay7.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay7.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id DD06F30059; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:11:19 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807125-a224ebb000006e4c-4c-45b6b2379fa3 Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay7.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id C8CDA30078; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:11:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <08BEFA26-04F6-45B0-83F5-0A86772A421E@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:11:19 -0800 To: youshi10@u.washington.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] What does this pipe do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:11:20 -0000 On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:00 PM, youshi10@u.washington.edu wrote: > I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm > curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end > in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is > synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". In csh/tcsh shells, that construct means to pipe stderr of the first process into stdin of the second process in the pipeline. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:17:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B65916A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1F413C4BE for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:17:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2007 20:17:25 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,226,1167627600"; d="scan'208"; a="395581399:sNHT25995902" Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id IDU08131; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-203-219.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.203.219]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2007 20:17:19 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17846.45976.831959.633584@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:17:12 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta27) "fiddleheads" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A090208.45B6B3A4.00D6,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=207.172.4.11, so=2006-05-09 23:27:51, dmn=5.2.125/2006-10-10 Subject: [OT] What does this pipe do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:17:26 -0000 youshi10@u.washington.edu writes: > I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm > curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end > in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is > synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". That's (t)csh-speak for "send both stdout and stderr to the pipe". '|' only covers stdout. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 01:38:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DC716A408 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67AD213C459 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27713 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2007 01:38:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=3f3j3Dl8BrhU9MAJcRT3oaENs0WfTs/CfXqN4DN11P1UjzDSqPu6B0mU4Tngmw+MEc8UCY8fv2ixhhAmCYlE1y6ixzsRwzyEKGyqapDO8wFPs3cbRgxLTz3A6Noy/lFE00DUOAof2DGAovLqnLEcMoM05DcnSxog3cApx/b9pik=; X-YMail-OSG: kYq8w_AVM1lecLlkZ_c_MFvRJPAOqLJ7c4SbtnNbix.ha8OWXPuBSh.y741ePhKI9nRzfkMg.dP6_GJeCgYXwu8qXzQcP0zpgyVpPymNzRyySwPDa1UdoNVLUnysJPyOQ22ibUg1VwiYi9peBT3D3Hm3BjtzDm7q Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:38:14 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Gould To: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <798850.27258.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:38:15 -0000 > From: Garrett Cooper =0A> To: freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org=0A> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:42:15 PM=0A> Subject: R= e: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder=0A> =0A> -----BEGIN PGP = SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0A> Hash: SHA1=0A> =0A> ajm wrote:=0A> > On Mon, Jan 22= , 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote:=0A> >> Andrew Gould wrote:=0A>= >>> [snip]=0A> > =0A> > this is from a previous message in the thread:=0A>= >> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310=0A> > =0A> > try as = root or su to root=0A> > =0A> > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310=0A> = =0A> Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could= =0A> resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results.= =0A> Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed.=0A> =0A> D= oes anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as=0A> = a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you=0A= > using amd(8)?=0A> =0A> - -Garrett=0A=0AI tried mounting the partition as = root. It didn't work. I think I'll install an older version of FreeBSD so= mewhere and see if the problem is isolated to 6.2.=0A=0AAndrew=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 02:40:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D8116A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9469113C43E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O2es1J025739 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:40:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O2esTo011527 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:40:54 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:40:54 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:40:54 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <798850.27258.qm@web35312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.182932 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:40:55 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Andrew Gould wrote: >> From: Garrett Cooper >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:42:15 PM >> Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder >> >> >> Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could >> resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. >> Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. >> >> Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as >> a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you >> using amd(8)? >> >> - -Garrett > > I tried mounting the partition as root. It didn't work. I think I'll install > an older version of FreeBSD somewhere and see if the problem is isolated to > 6.2. > > Andrew cd /dev; ls -l xpt* pass* da0 says? You do need pass and da compiled into the kernel with the right permissions in order to make stuff work with cameras AFAIK. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 02:44:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C3916A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358D013C480 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn03.u.washington.edu (hymn03.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.169]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O2i5j1028026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:44:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn03.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O2i5bk014817 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:44:05 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.4] by hymn03.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:44:05 PST Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:44:05 -0800 (PST) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.182932 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Subject: Re: [OT] What does this pipe do? (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:44:06 -0000 On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Robert Huff wrote: > > youshi10@u.washington.edu writes: > >> I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm >> curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end >> in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is >> synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". > > That's (t)csh-speak for "send both stdout and stderr to the > pipe". '|' only covers stdout. > > > Robert Huff No similar shortened command for bash/sh, other than &1>/dev/stdout &2>/dev/stdout? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 03:06:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C92216A40D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E3B13C45E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.13.6/8.13.8) id l0O366Kn094089; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:06:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:06:06 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: youshi10@u.washington.edu Message-ID: <20070124030606.GD4120@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] What does this pipe do? (fwd) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:06:14 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 23), youshi10@u.washington.edu said: > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007, Robert Huff wrote: > >youshi10@u.washington.edu writes: > >> I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm > >> curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end > >> in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is > >> synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". > > > > That's (t)csh-speak for "send both stdout and stderr to the pipe". > > '|' only covers stdout. > > No similar shortened command for bash/sh, other than &1>/dev/stdout > &2>/dev/stdout? "2>&1 |" is the sh equivalent. Here's a snippet from the from the zsh manpage: A pipeline is either a simple command, or a sequence of two or more simple commands where each command is separated from the next by `|' or `|&'. Where commands are separated by `|', the standard output of the first command is connected to the standard input of the next. `|&' is shorthand for `2>&1 |', which connects both the standard output and the standard error of the command to the standard input of the next. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 04:13:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3782116A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: from web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.179.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD69313C442 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewgould@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 50320 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2007 04:13:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=neB6iePaLOBawx0HKLXOm2GGASSm3wIs3cE2oSj82HTzUFG/05OV3KALMbN3nhdljZK7obwGMVUT7XA3T6dtbmM93Sg8MSoZvKkoujyyVDRzuJCsw2PmO2IILv05QPQ5DLKZnR3E4N8zrF76Tc5TKpyWLm+eIpBlslOMzQYZMUc=; X-YMail-OSG: VP.uAcIVM1k2DdQpF4XVGYnR4ESzgic6Y4AX9HnWcdeFF1yK18oyllpXLxruyofAUFOvh6d8nVQUnW.tf5YWzxQ0KhjNqTGBrb3DPQhuHYn0.84QcjNgRxw8WongURc- Received: from [206.255.31.21] by web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:13:58 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/368.3 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.7 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:13:58 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Gould To: youshi10@u.washington.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <423259.48989.qm@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:13:59 -0000 > cd /dev; ls -l xpt* pass* da0 says?=0A> =0A> You do need pass and da comp= iled into the kernel with the right permissions in order to=0A> make stuff = work with cameras AFAIK.=0A> =0A> -Garrett=0A=0AHere's the output:=0A=0A# l= s -l xpt* pass* da0=0Acrw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 139 Jan 23 22:05 d= a0=0Acrw------- 1 root operator 0, 126 Jan 23 22:05 pass0=0Acrw-------= 1 root operator 0, 138 Jan 23 22:05 pass1=0Acrw------- 1 root opera= tor 0, 127 Jan 23 22:05 xpt0=0A=0AFYI - In case it makes a difference, t= he Olympus WS-310 is a digital voice recorder, not a camera.=0A=0AThanks,= =0A=0AAndrew=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 05:03:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C45616A407 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ajm91qw@sbcglobal.net) Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CD0713C45D for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45B5B666.5030801@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:03:00 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:16:54PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > ajm wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > > ajm wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: > >>>>> Andrew Gould wrote: > >>>>>> [snip] > >>>> this is from a previous message in the thread: > >>>>> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > >>>> try as root or su to root > >>>> > >>>> # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 > > Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could > > resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. > > Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. > > > > Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as > > a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you > > using amd(8)? > > > > -Garrett > > > Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) > > > I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the > > following command as regular user: > > > for my mp3 player > > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player > > > for my camera > > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak > > > for a memory card reader > > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader > > > Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. > > You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory > > so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. > > > Also use sudo to un mount the device: > > > [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 > > > NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using > > amd(8). > > That's not an absolute solution though, because it should work as a > regular user (maybe with a bit of fenaggling). Besides, installing sudo > is a security risk anyhow.. > - -Garrett > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFtbZmEnKyINQw/HARAjMJAJwPrVm8VI64gdwBwtDOrDmxO+Cv4gCfQzXT > eudjUIzKZtXf9g3khIaK84k= > =oY+M > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Sudo...security risk??? It depends on how you set it up. This is my setup: See man visudo for a description of Defaults section... # Defaults specification Defaults env_reset Defaults timestamp_timeout=0 Defaults tty_tickets Defaults requiretty Defaults passwd_timeout=1 # User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL) ALL wtck57 ALL=/sbin/shutdown,/sbin/mount,/sbin/umount,\ /sbin/mount_msdosfs # Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands # %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL # Same thing without a password # %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL As you can see I can only run certain commands from sudo... -- Alexander FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 05:07:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAF916A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY) Received: from GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (gorilla.epedas.com.my [218.111.79.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890F713C4C8 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7201B5EF; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:06:02 +0800 (MYT) Received: from GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15628-10; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:04:41 +0800 (MYT) Received: from EPEDAS.COM.MY (localhost.EPEDAS.COM.MY [127.0.0.1]) by GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A441B5D4; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:04:40 +0800 (MYT) From: "Ahmad Faisal M. Nor" To: "Tamouh H." , wmoran@collaborativefusion.com Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:04:40 +0800 Message-Id: <20070124050314.M509@EPEDAS.COM.MY> In-Reply-To: <20070122143606.AC1F61B5DB@GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY> References: <20070122034736.M60473@EPEDAS.COM.MY> <20070122143606.AC1F61B5DB@GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY> Priority: urgent X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050228 X-OriginatingIP: ::ffff:10.10.20.20 (ded1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new AntiVirus & AntiSpam Scanner run on FreeBSD mail server at GORILLA.EPEDAS.COM.MY Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Enquiry on SAS in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ded1@EPEDAS.COM.MY List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:07:12 -0000 Thanks a lot for shed me a light :-) --- EPedas Sdn. Bhd. 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If you are not the intended recipient,you are From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 05:28:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32FC16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA4313C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:28:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O5SPEj032212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:28:26 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O5SPCG032563 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:28:25 -0800 Message-ID: <45B6EE76.20906@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:28:22 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <922655.25365.qm@web35313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45B3F6CE.3060402@netscape.net> <20070122010355.GA1544@powerfull.bsd> <45B59227.3010204@u.washington.edu> <20070123063048.GA728@powerfull.bsd> <45B5B666.5030801@u.washington.edu> <20070124050209.GA755@powerfull.bsd> In-Reply-To: <20070124050209.GA755@powerfull.bsd> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.211433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:28:26 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ajm wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:16:54PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > ajm wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 08:42:15PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: >>>> ajm wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:27:10AM +0100, Tore Lund wrote: >>>>>>>> Andrew Gould wrote: >>>>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> this is from a previous message in the thread: >>>>>>>> attempt: mount -tmsdos -orw /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 >>>>>>> try as root or su to root >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/ws310 >>>> Interestingly enough I tried out these steps as root to see if I could >>>> resimulate this with my camera and I ended up with the same results. >>>> Only by trying to mount the camera as root could I succeed. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a FAT16/FAT32 drive properly mounting under FreeBSD as >>>> a non-root user? If so, did you modify /dev, /etc/devfs.conf, or are you >>>> using amd(8)? >>>> >>>> -Garrett >>>> Take a look at sudoers(5) and visudo(8) >>>> I use sudo to mount my mass storage compliant devices with the >>>> following command as regular user: >>>> for my mp3 player >>>> [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/mp3player >>>> for my camera >>>> [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/kodak >>>> for a memory card reader >>>> [ajm@bsd]$ sudo mount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 /usr/home/ajm/mnt/card_reader >>>> Just make sure you change the ? to an actual device number. >>>> You do need to create the /mnt directories in your own home directory >>>> so that you can read and write to those devices as a regular user. >>>> Also use sudo to un mount the device: >>>> [ajm@bsd]$ sudo umount_msdosfs /dev/da?s1 >>>> NOTE: I did not change anything in the /etc/devfs.conf or am I using >>>> amd(8). > That's not an absolute solution though, because it should work as a > regular user (maybe with a bit of fenaggling). Besides, installing sudo > is a security risk anyhow.. > -Garrett > > Sudo...security risk??? It depends on how you set it up. This is my > setup: > See man visudo for a description of Defaults section... > # Defaults specification > Defaults env_reset > Defaults timestamp_timeout=0 > Defaults tty_tickets > Defaults requiretty > Defaults passwd_timeout=1 > # User privilege specification > root ALL=(ALL) ALL > wtck57 ALL=/sbin/shutdown,/sbin/mount,/sbin/umount,\ > /sbin/mount_msdosfs > # Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands > # %wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL > # Same thing without a password > # %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL > As you can see I can only run certain commands from sudo... Last time I checked though, the FreeBSD Security group warned against using it (you know.. the warning message after installing some ports). But that was some time ago when I last used that command.. I dunno. su serves its purpose well enough and it's a rock solid command. If there's a problem with su there's a problem with the login/password storage mechanism, like there would be with sudo. I admit that your setup does look secure though. Cheers on that. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtu52EnKyINQw/HARAr7oAJ9dPnD73y1NI2eLjnzVOQ2NAnM6iACcDPgP PmFRtdSnetLs3xq5gGpOHeM= =ibQ9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 05:29:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC54116A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A8913C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O5T0EC001587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:29:00 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0O5SxPh032594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:29:00 -0800 Message-ID: <45B6EE99.8020402@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:28:57 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <423259.48989.qm@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <423259.48989.qm@web35309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.23.211433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: trouble mounting Olympus WS-310M voice recorder X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:29:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gould wrote: >> cd /dev; ls -l xpt* pass* da0 says? >> >> You do need pass and da compiled into the kernel with the right permissions in order to >> make stuff work with cameras AFAIK. >> >> -Garrett > > Here's the output: > > # ls -l xpt* pass* da0 > crw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 139 Jan 23 22:05 da0 > crw------- 1 root operator 0, 126 Jan 23 22:05 pass0 > crw------- 1 root operator 0, 138 Jan 23 22:05 pass1 > crw------- 1 root operator 0, 127 Jan 23 22:05 xpt0 > > FYI - In case it makes a difference, the Olympus WS-310 is a digital voice recorder, not a camera. > > Thanks, > > Andrew Technically it's a mountable item via SCSI though.. so it's really no different. Try adding +x permissions to those items and mounting as root to see if stuff works. Getting pass and SCSI stuff to work properly permissions wise is a bit weird sometimes.. - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFtu6YEnKyINQw/HARAmZlAJ90CcAJhA/Vz+u0I+hQ4pjClEsFsgCfTzGH AlnKMqJcE3vxT1YyN0lzz9o= =03rg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 06:21:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB8D16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B5E13C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so82758wxc for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:21:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kPz9kK1ALjrRHDLx4WBS8RlNTKBhutbHL3sItFbuV02VQbQmd2RqrnBUE9t1gIqQimnH9WRoxGCoF/HC4ln9xoJ3For25cPDj7afUYwH1TNc+5NHt8+jqVVNzyL9f3Ymos719Dbo0rg1nz2M65BwbjczdKXsEWzNwBYlG4N7ZlY= Received: by 10.70.99.9 with SMTP id w9mr730633wxb.1169619704696; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.39.18 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:21:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0701232221x87e308dj6b68c03ed25349e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:21:44 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: felix.schalck In-Reply-To: <45B62A3A.3050608@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B62A3A.3050608@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:21:45 -0000 Hi Felix, On 23/01/07, felix.schalck wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get a WLAN pcmcia card working on freebsd 6.2. Kernel with > cardbus support compiled fine, but when the card is inserted, i get: > > Status is 0x30000086 > Status is 0x30000820 > cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 > cbb0: cbb_power: 3V > cbb0: cbb_power: 0V > > Dmesg shows: > > cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci2 > cbb0: Found memory at e0202000 > cbb0: Secondary bus is 2 > cardbus0: on cbb0 > pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 > > Any ideas ? What are my possibilities/chances to get it work ? Please provide some more information about your system. Is this a laptop, or are you using a PCMCIA- to PCI-Adapter with a desktop system? What model is your laptop or desktop system? Did you load the appropriate driver for your WLAN card, or is it compiled into the kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 07:03:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660BA16A406 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amarendra.godbole@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2889913C45A for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amarendra.godbole@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id f47so23189pye for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:03:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RBdtHiPVERDt0/DBSBJytSu92jFBPnwsxBE0V8DRXe83AJZWpOvSm8Rjz+kEhWd6BlNJky/UuLWwbxGQu8tr7PWFrinEdtI3FsKw+k1j3Jbm+qmXXgh5aEbfm1H360klBLi0/9x1v+YLgsou4x/k8aWsdpg6sjRLmjEE5zVJ+YU= Received: by 10.35.93.19 with SMTP id v19mr835311pyl.1169622222401; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.108.15 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:03:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <294439d20701232303o41892983o36249ef37fb81d3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:33:41 +0530 From: "Amarendra Godbole" To: "Colin Percival" In-Reply-To: <45B15AFA.4070306@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <294439d20701162337m1b15e385n1200ce4fe3ec98a3@mail.gmail.com> <45B15AFA.4070306@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem upgrading from 6.1-RELEASE to 6.2-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:03:43 -0000 On 1/20/07, Colin Percival wrote: > Amarendra Godbole wrote: > > Fetching metadata index... done. > > Fetching 1 metadata patches. done. > > Applying metadata patches... done. > > Fetching 1 metadata files... failed. > > > > Is this because of a connectivity issue on my end, or some issue with > > update1.freebsd.org? I don't see any connectivity issues from my side > > though. Thanks in advance. > > The server has rebooted a couple of times in the past week (I needed to > upgrade it, too!) so it's possible that you were just happened to hit the > window when it was inaccessible. Aside from that, I haven't seen any > connectivity problems -- but the internet being as unreliable as it is, > it's entirely possible. [...] Still does not work. :-|. I tried this command individually, and here is what I get: dexter# /usr/libexec/phttpget update1.FreeBSD.org 6.2-RELEASE/i386/m/0eb7ad6b9097920c37050d513da36a7d759c49b67bcb63fd9b443f545fc50685.gz phttpget: Connection failure I tried at different times of the day, but still everytime the script reaches this step, it fails. Is there a workaround, or any idea as to why this happens? Thanks! Best, Amarendra From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 08:30:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DEB16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E46713C461 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:30:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H9dWz-000KND-IZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:30:57 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.7 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:30:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:30:57 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: "freebsd-questions " User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: error fetching signatures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:30:10 -0000 Hello, I am using 6.2 release and it is second time the system cannot fetch updates signature. etching updates signature... fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/i386/6.2/updates.sig: Not Found Error fetching updates Anyone else seeing this? Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 08:34:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C3016A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F60B13C455 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JCD0056O6HN2I10@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.146]) by pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JCD00JRD6HM3E31@pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JCD0018P6HMLV80@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:34:34 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 1923 invoked from network); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:34:25 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:34:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:34:25 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-id: <45B71A11.2020403@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061227) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: error fetching signatures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:34:35 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > I am using 6.2 release and it is second time the system cannot fetch > updates signature. > > etching updates signature... > fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/i386/6.2/updates.sig: Not Found > Error fetching updates What's the exact command you ran? What does `uname -r` say? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 08:41:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B17016A40F for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E630A13C4C3 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H9di5-000KWs-Ip for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:42:25 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.7 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:42:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <60124.192.168.11.7.1169628145.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <45B71A11.2020403@freebsd.org> References: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <45B71A11.2020403@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:42:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: error fetching signatures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:41:37 -0000 Hello, >> etching updates signature... >> fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/i386/6.2/updates.sig: Not Found >> Error fetching updates > > What's the exact command you ran? What does `uname -r` say? 6.2-RELEASE I must have set up something long ago because until your email I was sure it was part of the OS functionality (the email came from Charlie Root). I am ashamed but I do not recall typing any commands. Have inspected crontab but not seeing any entries there either. -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 08:52:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0CA16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879E113C480 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr6so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.182]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JCD00FGN7BE8DE0@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:52:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml10so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.80]) by pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JCD00E2S7BDILI0@pd5mr6so.prod.shaw.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:52:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JCD00KOK7BBTYF5@l-daemon> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:52:24 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 1955 invoked from network); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:15 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:15 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:52:15 -0800 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <60124.192.168.11.7.1169628145.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> To: Zbigniew Szalbot Message-id: <45B71E3F.8030303@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 References: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <45B71A11.2020403@freebsd.org> <60124.192.168.11.7.1169628145.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061227) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error fetching signatures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:52:25 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >>> etching updates signature... >>> fetch: http://update.daemonology.net/i386/6.2/updates.sig: Not Found >>> Error fetching updates >> What's the exact command you ran? What does `uname -r` say? > 6.2-RELEASE > > I must have set up something long ago because until your email I was sure > it was part of the OS functionality (the email came from Charlie Root). Ah, I see what's going on now. You had FreeBSD Update installed from the ports tree, and then you upgraded the system to FreeBSD 6.2. As you say, FreeBSD Update is now part of the FreeBSD base system; so you can uninstall the port (pkg_delete freebsd-update-\*). > I am ashamed but I do not recall typing any commands. Have inspected > crontab but not seeing any entries there either. Have you looked in /var/cron/tabs/root ? Colin Percival From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 08:53:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0392D16A488 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:53:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberlab@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5489C13C4C2 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberlab@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 3932 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jan 2007 08:26:26 -0000 Received: from 62.225.62.67 by www073.gmx.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:26 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:26 +0100 From: "Jost Menke" In-Reply-To: <45B6973D.3010405@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070124082626.44750@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45B6973D.3010405@yahoo.com> To: Ben Hacker Jr , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Authenticated: #1026516 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Audio (Record) not functioning... (record interrupt timeout) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:53:08 -0000 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:16:13 -0500 Von: Ben Hacker Jr An: Stable FBSD , questions FBSD Betreff: Audio (Record) not functioning... (record interrupt timeout) > Any help will be Greatly appreciated! I currently believe this is a > problem with the "snd_t4dwave" driver device" Hi Ben, I am experiencing similar problems with the snd_t4dwave driver, but with playback. Playback works for a few seconds, then it stops and the kernel also reports an interrupt timeout. Didn't find a solution yet I'm afraid. Regards, Jost Menke -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:04:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCC116A407 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A2813C459 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost.168.11.51 ([::1] helo=lists.lc-words.com) by lists.lc-words.com with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1H9e4A-000KpV-7C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:05:14 +0100 Received: from 192.168.11.7 (SquirrelMail authenticated user zbyszek@szalbot.homedns.org) by lists.lc-words.com with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:05:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <60590.192.168.11.7.1169629514.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> In-Reply-To: <45B71E3F.8030303@freebsd.org> References: <60002.192.168.11.7.1169627457.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <45B71A11.2020403@freebsd.org> <60124.192.168.11.7.1169628145.squirrel@lists.lc-words.com> <45B71E3F.8030303@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:05:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Zbigniew Szalbot" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: error fetching signatures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:04:29 -0000 Dear Colin and others, > Ah, I see what's going on now. You had FreeBSD Update installed from the > ports tree, and then you upgraded the system to FreeBSD 6.2. Yes, that was it! > > As you say, FreeBSD Update is now part of the FreeBSD base system; so you > can uninstall the port (pkg_delete freebsd-update-\*). Some people say that FBSD community is very hermetic and does not help people who have questions. I find it to be exactly the opposite. Thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:07:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EEA16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F1A13C4BA for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 63252 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 09:09:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 09:09:12 -0000 Received: from 68.165.89.71 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:09:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:09:12 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:07:44 -0000 hi all... i have a problem compiling ghostscript... no mater what version i am using and using the newest port i always get: gcc: ./src/genconf.c: No such file or directory gcc: No input files specified *** Error code 1 apparently that happens only on freebsd... any ideas to solve this... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:46:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947AC16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B83613C4CB for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so110060uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:46:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tQAzGgR/kfNyYshRrkFtgegq0fWpH5bcKLkMCzSPmCp0bvTcJAArJNr+LlYBvkl2/40d/2QZuOoRCcJuZfkWXC3wGflboy/kr1lf7JymwgFO7ubGBR1GVXo44vmUp7qOMLnN5sprpJvdGHBKphTMfyiLC1p+5PevGlgRUbR90A4= Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr289815hue.1169632001837; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:46:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:46:41 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: kalin@el.net In-Reply-To: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0328268a29cf0d5d Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:46:45 -0000 On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: > hi all... > > i have a problem compiling ghostscript... > no mater what version i am using and using the newest port i always get: > > gcc: ./src/genconf.c: No such file or directory > gcc: No input files specified > *** Error code 1 > > apparently that happens only on freebsd... Are you installing from ports? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:49:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF0A16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F1413C44B for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id l0O9nvEU037363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:49:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id l0O9nvNU037360; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 01:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 ([192.168.200.61]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA08837; Wed, 24 Jan 07 00:38:13 PST Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:40:31 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: tedm@toybox.placo.com Message-Id: <45b71b7f.vgEUZGU4FRif7ky4%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <45AC719A.1020809@bobmc.net> <008401c73adc$aab2a900$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20070118154349.587b2673@gumby.homeunix.com> <010601c73b99$78bd1080$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b085ad.bj2Z1G8SQNxJ0p6O%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <003001c73c6e$87665c10$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b2aaf9.V2NP8H4RCXmKwvIZ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <013001c73d51$a5bcaf00$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <45b474ba.mCgi87Gs2EyOmPZQ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <004f01c73ede$c99deae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> In-Reply-To: <004f01c73ede$c99deae0$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:49:59 -0000 > > > > > What I don't get is I see guys walking in > > > > > dropping $1000 on associated Mac hardware crap > > ... > > > > The most expensive system around here is a Mac Sawtooth that cost > > > > $225 -- including a 17" monitor -- last September. The (Dell) > > > > FreeBSD box I'm using at the moment cost $10 at a flea market, > > ... > > > This is a totally unfair comparison. They guy dropping $1K on a > > > Mac is walking out with a machine that is fully configured and > > > ready to run. > > > > As was the Sawtooth. > > Hmm - "Mac Sawtooth" to me is a circa 1999 Power Mac G4. > I think we are talking about something different since you > couldn't possibly be just buying used devices and -not- > nuking and repaving.. or could you? The seller wiped the drives and reloaded the OS. When I turned it on, I got the "new MacOS" sequence -- or whatever it might officially be called -- just as if it had been brand-new from Apple. I suppose the seller figured that the $225 he charged was sufficient to cover both the value of the hardware and his time reinitializing it. > > > When you get an old clunker by the time you tally up the time you > > > have spent on getting it ready to run, your at the same amount. > > ... > > > Skilled UNIX tech time is at min $95 an hour. Your talking a > > > min of 4 hours to get a Goodwill find up and going on FreeBSD > > > by the time you work out the quirks, assuming that the ram in it > > > doesen't have a flaw and the disk is good, if you have to replace > > > that stuff you count the hours it takes to drive to Fry's and > > > back, buy the disk, etc.. well your getting pretty close to that > > > $1K in my book. > > > > It took me *zero* more time to get this box (Dell #1) ready for > > FreeBSD than if it had come direct from Dell with Windoze preloaded. > > Not fair - you aren't including the time spent "preloading" FreeBSD. Totally fair, if the goal is to end up with a FreeBSD system. > The entire point is of the labor to get it to where you can start > the userland configuration. Not to get it to where you can insert > the operating system install CD and boot it. > > When you buy them new, the windows is already loaded and ready to > start the userland configuration (which in my experience mainly > consists of uninstalling all the trialware and crap on them) Yeah, if you want a !!@@##$$ Windoze box, but AFAIK you can't go out and buy a box with FreeBSD preloaded and ready for userland configuration (and kernel hacking :) Linux, maybe, but not any of the *BSD. It takes *zero* longer to wipe the existing Windoze off a pre-owned box than to wipe the preloaded Windoze off a new Dell/Compaq/whatever. The point being that your bashing of "an old clunker" above just doesn't hold water. > > [re Comcast] > > They claim they are faster, but since I seldom see anywhere near > > rated speed on DSL I don't think the DSL line is the limiting > > factor. Given that, I would not expect cable to be any faster > > *in practice* than DSL ... I don't care for their TOS either > > -- as I understand it, I can't even leave an SSH port open > > to enable me to log in from the office because that would be > > considered "running a server". > > Correct, they block all incoming ports for well known services. > Obviously, people can and do run servers on ports above 1024. If so, they are violating the TOS as I understand it -- and you as an ISP employee could never countenance that :) The language was something along the lines of "I agree not to run a server of any kind ..." not "I agree not to run servers on well-known ports" or "I agree not to make servers available to the public." > What do you mean you seldom see rated speed on your DSL line? > Are you talking from world to you, or are you talking from ISP > to you? World, of course. DSL is a dedicated 2.5" fire hose to the ISP. Cable is a shared 5" supply line. When the source is a garden hose, or there is enough congestion that the path from the source to my ISP is effectively a booster line, the capacity from ISP to me doesn't affect matters very much at all. > > Anyway, I'm comparing the wire charges, not the ISP service ... > > as of when I looked into it -- Verizon was charging something > > like $5 or $10 *more* for the wire connection to a 3rd party > > ISP than for the equivalent connection to Verizon Online, and > > effectively throwing in the ISP "service" for free. > > Right, as I said, this is when the ISP sells DSL service over > Verizon via retail. Not wholesale. You only talked to the ones > at the time that were selling retail. When I checked, I looked at everyone I could find via Google. I think there was one quoting a package price that was competitive with Verizon's, and that one was out due to a co-worker's very bad past experience with them. Some didn't mention pricing at all, and they didn't get a second look. The rest quoted separately the wire charge to Verizon, and their own ISP charge, and all those wire charges were the same (and higher than Verizon's package price). Maybe *no one* had a wholesale deal then. > ... most DSL ISPs in Portland probably didn't have enough potential > Verizon DSL customers to even be able to sign the wholesale contract. With the vast majority of silicon forest folks living in Verizon territory (Washington County)? Gimme a break! More likely Verizon was not *offering* wholesale rates to anyone but their own ISP. > > I don't need much from an ISP beyond connectivity, bandwidth, > > an IP address, and access to a nameserver; why should I pay for > > services I'm not going to use? > > Hmmm - interesting, I didn't list any services that you aren't > currently using, but your still trying to equate higher prices > with services you don't need. Here I am referring to the fact that, in effect, I have to *pay* Verizon for full ISP service, including their email and whatever else that I never use, plus a surcharge if I want to use a different ISP. Maybe the situation is different now (but one wouldn't know from your employer's web site -- it mentions only the $15.95, $19.95, etc. ISP charge with no hint as to how much additional goes to Verizon for the DSL line). > What I listed is -better- implementations of the services that > you are already using. Better how? Your outfit's TOS are, in some ways, more restrictive than Verizon's, and I couldn't figure out a total cost from the web site (unless that $15.95 is the entire package cost). > > I *do* want it to work properly, which has been a lot less of > > an issue recently than it used to be; and when it quits working, > > esp. when nothing has changed on my end, I'd like to be able to > > reach someone who has a clue. > > We all would like this and that, the question was, would you value > it? As in, would you pay extra to be able to reach someone who > has a clue when it stops working? Whenever I notice that it has stopped working, without my having done anything to break it, either the ISP or the telco has already failed. I shouldn't have to pay more to reach someone who knows how to fix it. I really shouldn't even have to call -- the network monitoring gear should have notified the responsible tech before I even noticed the outage. If the outage *is* already known, my call can be answered by a machine -- like PGE has -- that tells me it's a known problem and gives an estimated repair time. > It sounds like with you, the answer is no. That is, you aren't > willing to fork over anything more. Not even as little as $1 a > month to get better, faster service if that is all it took ... > When people like you are running around telling everyone that > all ISP's are the same I didn't say all are the same. I said that, when I checked, no one was anywhere near cost-competitive with Verizon. (That was slightly inaccurate: there was one, but I was not willing to risk dealing with them due to reputation.) I do not blame the independents for this; I suspect the lack of substantial competition was by design on Verizon's part. > ... your doing a disservice to people who don't want an Internet > experience just like you, who are in fact willing to pay the extra > $1 a month or so, to get better service. Again, it was not an extra $1 or so. It was more like an extra $30 or $35 total cost. > Who would be willing to pay more for an external DSL modem I *have* got an external Westell. Supplied by Verizon when I first hooked up. Originally connected to a 386 GNATBox, which I had to swap out for a Netgear RP614 when Verizon "upgraded" their system. > to be able to use a public IP address on a real FreeBSD machine. Depends what you mean by "public". My current DHCP address is fully routable, it just changes occasionally. You might issue me a static IP, but your TOS won't allow me to use someone like dyndns to attach a name to it. I could build my own OpenBSD NAT firewall, but *that* is the sort of thing that I *would* prefer to pay Netgear or GNATBox to set up. > There are no bottom feeders in DSL. You see, by getting DSL you > have made the internal decision that your Internet service is a > product that you actually care something about. I care some about the speed, and more about not tying up the phone line. My current DSL does not cost much, if any, more than a second phone line plus a dialup ISP; and it is certainly faster than 56K. > > (I have had email for over a decade, and it still runs over > > UUCP. It ain't broke.) > > I ran UUCP off Agora for years to my personal system, to handle > e-mail, as a matter of fact. You may have noticed a familiar name in my Received: headers :) If I were in Quest territory, I would very likely have DSL through rdrop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:52:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D439C16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 434F013C4DB for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felix.schalck@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2007 09:52:14 -0000 Received: from lns-bzn-21-82-248-163-142.adsl.proxad.net (EHLO [192.168.0.16]) [82.248.163.142] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 10:52:14 +0100 X-Authenticated: #23426003 Message-ID: <45B72C4C.9040800@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:52:12 +0100 From: "felix.schalck" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061223) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Walther References: <45B62A3A.3050608@gmail.com> <14989d6e0701232221x87e308dj6b68c03ed25349e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14989d6e0701232221x87e308dj6b68c03ed25349e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "felix.schalck" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cardbus not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:52:16 -0000 Christian Walther wrote: > Hi Felix, > > On 23/01/07, felix.schalck wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to get a WLAN pcmcia card working on freebsd 6.2. Kernel with >> cardbus support compiled fine, but when the card is inserted, i get: >> >> Status is 0x30000086 >> Status is 0x30000820 >> cbb0: card inserted: event=0x00000000, state=30000820 >> cbb0: cbb_power: 3V >> cbb0: cbb_power: 0V >> >> Dmesg shows: >> >> cbb0: at device 7.0 on pci2 >> cbb0: Found memory at e0202000 >> cbb0: Secondary bus is 2 >> cardbus0: on cbb0 >> pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 >> >> Any ideas ? What are my possibilities/chances to get it work ? > > Please provide some more information about your system. Is this a > laptop, or are you using a PCMCIA- to PCI-Adapter with a desktop > system? What model is your laptop or desktop system? > Did you load the appropriate driver for your WLAN card, or is it > compiled into the kernel? Thank you very much for your help; You're absolutely right: sorry for the poor infos: Card is an orinoco gold 8470 wd with the *theoretically* supported atheros chipset. Drivers ath_hal is compiled into kernel: Perhaps I'shoud try it with separate kernel-module ? #Atheros chipset support device ath device ath_hal device ath_rate_sample # wireless options device wlan_wep device wlan_ccmp device wlan_tkip device wlan_xauth device wlan_acl pciconf -l shows: hostb0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x35808086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none0@pci0:0:1: class=0x088000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x35848086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none1@pci0:0:3: class=0x088000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x35858086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 agp0@pci0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 none2@pci0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x35828086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 uhci0@pci0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 uhci1@pci0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c48086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 uhci2@pci0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c78086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 ehci0@pci0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24cd8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 pcib1@pci0:30:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24488086 rev=0x83 hdr=0x01 isab0@pci0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x24cc8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 atapci0@pci0:31:1: class=0x01018a card=0x01201558 chip=0x24ca8086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 none3@pci0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c38086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 pcm0@pci0:31:5: class=0x040100 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c58086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 none4@pci0:31:6: class=0x070300 card=0x01201558 chip=0x24c68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 rl0@pci2:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x01201558 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 cbb0@pci2:7:0: class=0x060700 card=0x01201558 chip=0x14101524 rev=0x01 hdr=0x02 iwi0@pci2:8:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27028086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 So, do you think the problem is due to the cardbus, or to the inserted card ? Thanks again for your help, Felix > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 09:53:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0081A16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) Received: from mail.segi.pl (mail.segi.pl [89.171.92.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4129013C4B8 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL: 0.000,BAYES_00: -1.665,TOTAL_SCORE: -1.665 X-Spam-Level: Received: from gregslap ([217.17.37.3]) (authenticated user grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) by mail.segi.pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:23:21 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Pluta" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:23:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acc/mUT5PvQmVcj4TGip0Hu9RvSdZQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Subject: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:53:26 -0000 Hi. Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you been using it? Cheers, GregZX From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 10:51:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6915C16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045F413C480 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so121746uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:51:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jXqXWXjk+XVv0SI1+fbgLCy7cy+cFtkN06K8cD9Ate7CKZCFLvUwSp1VKQ7kZ5IcE83trWyo9WaM6Z02PL7rSEUK7rfKWIstVgCHh18FuJw2jaN03vOrvGgoOY8tbKQ8SNpjqUem4Gyda6mCzEBaa5tIQJxwXEsu9anYR/65aJY= Received: by 10.82.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr125404bud.1169634385367; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.168.13 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 02:26:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7dc029620701240226y6f84840lfa3aae497a2f7fe2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:26:25 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on Dell Optiplex 210L X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:51:42 -0000 Hi, i am having a rather peculiar problem with Dell Optiplex 210L. I have been trying to install FreeBSD 6.2-Release on this hardware with no success...i have also tried 6.1 release, as well as 6.0 release but still get the same error, at the same point. i attempted with a boot only CD for 6.1-Release as well. it boots well, but gets to a point and logs: usb1: Host controller halter uhub1: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 1 panic: usbd_transfer: not done and reboots... if i remove the USB keyboard, all above versions of FreeBSD boot, but when i plug the keyboard back in, its not functional. i managed to get it to boot once with the keyboard plugged in, but loose it after it gets to the sysinstall part. I disabled the front USB ports and got no difference, i disabled the USB controller from BIOS, but of course that leaves me with no USB functionality on the system. any one come across this? i ruled out a problem with FreeBSD and USB functionality because i installed FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on to a Dell PowerEdge 1950 and it worked well....tried all other 6.x that i have and they worked well too! Regards, Mike -- -- Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 10:56:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAC216A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from klein.pean.org (pean.org [195.24.165.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECF313C4B7 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from [192.168.12.13] (trusted.jajja.com [217.118.217.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by klein.pean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ABDDE8C7F for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:26:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B7346F.7090701@pean.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:26:55 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: cp to infinity. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:59 -0000 > cd test/ > mkdir foo > touch bar > cp -r * foo/ cp:=20 foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo:=20 name too long (not copied) cp:=20 foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo= /foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/= foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/f= oo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/foo/fo= o/foo:=20 name too long (not copied) It seems FreeBSD cp tries to copy the directory to infinity. Is there an = option to avoid this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 10:56:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE4F16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from klein.pean.org (pean.org [195.24.165.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF0C13C4B8 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from [192.168.12.13] (trusted.jajja.com [217.118.217.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by klein.pean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8196DE8D3B; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:31:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B735B7.20109@pean.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:32:23 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_Ankerst=E5l?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grzegorz Pluta References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:56:59 -0000 Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? > I've been using tightvnc both as server and client. Works fine. I'm using fluxbox as window-manager. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 11:45:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977B916A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E6D13C442 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so97845wri for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:45:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QQOwxoRtehu5MmlKGYGPZWk3Mxyx25Qgg3mZIWuXJpsXaBn+/A8KKPEGaH8xrYYEgQv5wqBAWdWY+r+XqWfRxoW5fSxgnJ22wMJHCTQwRRAo9KgRcqgbgcJ8i+SFBXcCAhtZ4jQ6pZjiYSC1maWUPFBrn79eQw5Mm13mh8jTmvc= Received: by 10.78.204.20 with SMTP id b20mr495623hug.1169639105663; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:45:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:45:05 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: "=?UTF-8?Q?Peter_Ankerst=C3=A5l?=" In-Reply-To: <45B7346F.7090701@pean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <45B7346F.7090701@pean.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: da68ff801b743996 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp to infinity. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:45:10 -0000 T24gMS8yNC8wNywgUGV0ZXIgQW5rZXJzdMOlbCA8cGV0ZXJAcGVhbi5vcmc+IHdyb3RlOgo+ICA+ IGNkIHRlc3QvCj4gID4gbWtkaXIgZm9vCj4gID4gdG91Y2ggYmFyCj4gID4gY3AgLXIgKiBmb28v Cj4gY3A6Cj4KPiBuYW1lIHRvbyBsb25nIChub3QgY29waWVkKQo+IGNwOgo+Cj4gbmFtZSB0b28g bG9uZyAobm90IGNvcGllZCkKPgo+Cj4gSXQgc2VlbXMgRnJlZUJTRCBjcCB0cmllcyB0byBjb3B5 IHRoZSBkaXJlY3RvcnkgdG8gaW5maW5pdHkuIElzIHRoZXJlIGFuCj4gb3B0aW9uIHRvIGF2b2lk IHRoaXM/CgpTdXJlLCBqdXN0IGRvbid0IGNvcHkgZGlyZWN0b3JpZXMgaW50byB0aGVtc2VsdmVz CnJlY3Vyc2l2ZWx5Lgo= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 11:50:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0651216A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from klein.pean.org (pean.org [195.24.165.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8134513C461 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@pean.org) Received: from [192.168.12.13] (trusted.jajja.com [217.118.217.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by klein.pean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C858DE8D66; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:49:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B74805.9070802@pean.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:50:29 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQW5rZXJzdMOlbA==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061123) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Pantyukhin References: <45B7346F.7090701@pean.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cp to infinity. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:50:01 -0000 > Sure, just don't copy directories into themselves > recursively. How hard could it be to make cp avoid this problem? GNU cp does not have any problems with this action. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:00:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAE316A58D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: from suncom4.cms.hu-berlin.de (suncom4.cms.hu-berlin.de [141.20.1.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1A213C45D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from free.bsd@gmx.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suncom4.cms.hu-berlin.de (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OBDiZv017464; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:13:44 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis at cms.hu-berlin.de Received: from [141.20.9.159] (sandring.cms.hu-berlin.de [141.20.9.159]) by suncom4.cms.hu-berlin.de (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OBD3dB017041; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:13:03 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B73F55.1040400@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:13:25 +0100 From: FreeBSD Daemon User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grzegorz Pluta References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:45 -0000 Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? > > Cheers, > GregZX > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I use net/tightvnc port both as client ans server. Works file for me. I am running a lightweight WM ... aewm++ and pwm. Zheyu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:03:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57AAD16A408; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nixx@freebsd.se) Received: from thebox.our-own.net (our-own.net [72.36.210.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34DC713C4A6; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nixx@freebsd.se) Received: from thebox.our-own.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aq.our-own.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518263883D; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:31:56 -0600 (CST) X-Spam-Virus: No X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on thebox.our-own.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=3.5 tests=AWL,DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [87.253.82.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bq.our-own.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8446763883A; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:31:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45B743A5.8080103@freebsd.se> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:31:49 +0100 From: Nikolaj Farrell User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per olof Ljungmark References: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> In-Reply-To: <45B39891.4030207@intersonic.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Glenn Becker , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firefox keeps beeping at me ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:03:56 -0000 Per olof Ljungmark skrev: > Glenn Becker wrote: >> >> All - >> >> I've been away from FreeBSD for some time and have been updating my >> installation, getting used to the ways of portupgrade, etc. >> >> Have noticed that Firefox keeps emitting what sound like console >> beeps - I haven't established much of a pattern for these though it >> always happens when I close the app. >> >> Is there a way to kill these? Apologies in advance if this is a dopey >> question. Obviously more an annoyance than anything. > > perhaps -questions is more appropriate... > > Anyway, that makes two of us - mine beeps too - when sending and > reading mails. No idea why though, sorry. > > Anyone? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" The beeping can be avoided by recompiling without the debug option. (I am clueless on how to disable it if debug is on though). Sorry for the crosspost-reply. /Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:07:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6839B16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1B313C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stevan-tiefert@t-online.de) Received: from fwd32.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1H9guT-0005tf-04; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:07:25 +0100 Received: from p54a5685c.dip.t-dialin.net (rxvnfQZEweNTzoSCDuqPpsj8hqV4iLhCjIYPHggByaQtCm97cpJP4N@[84.165.104.92]) by fwd32.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1H9guG-1EeFDU0; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:07:12 +0100 From: Stevan Tiefert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:06:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <45B7346F.7090701@pean.org> <45B74805.9070802@pean.org> In-Reply-To: <45B74805.9070802@pean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1234841.cLDbd3Ke3C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200701241306.36527.stevan-tiefert@t-online.de> X-ID: rxvnfQZEweNTzoSCDuqPpsj8hqV4iLhCjIYPHggByaQtCm97cpJP4N X-TOI-MSGID: c363d077-e99e-4e93-b018-da071102df7e Cc: Peter =?iso-8859-1?q?Ankerst=E5l?= Subject: Re: cp to infinity. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:07:27 -0000 --nextPart1234841.cLDbd3Ke3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Am Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 12:50 schrieb Peter Ankerst=C3=A5l: > > Sure, just don't copy directories into themselves > > recursively. > > How hard could it be to make cp avoid this problem? > GNU cp does not have any problems with this action. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You need only to write a patch and send it to the developers and voil=C3=A0= =20 you have what you want! --nextPart1234841.cLDbd3Ke3C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBFt0vMShwvFt8BFVwRApdmAKDZFblS6POVslOGqRSfcf2wiJJdcwCeNZoh mfRwNg6sK0fNDt2EmUHGfqM= =s7TI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1234841.cLDbd3Ke3C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:35:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B2E16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vanev@unisoft-ltd.com) Received: from unisoft-ltd.com (unisoft.pppoe.lan1.rousse.spnet.net [62.204.132.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEAF913C4C6 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vanev@unisoft-ltd.com) Received: (qmail 35588 invoked by uid 1007); 24 Jan 2007 12:35:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Vanev) (vanev@unisoft-ltd.com@10.0.0.2) by unisoft-ltd.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 12:35:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c73fb4$200bb5d0$0200000a@Vanev> From: "George Vanev" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:35:26 +0200 Organization: Unisoft Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Subject: HP Embedded SATA RAID controller (FreeBSD 6.2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:35:43 -0000 I have HP ProLiantML 110 G3 server. I am trying to install FreeBSD 6.2. But it doesn't seem to recognise the RAID controller. I don't know what exactly is the controller. In the hp site I didn't find anything usefull, except that this is "HP embedded SATA RAID controller" Not much, uh?! Any one could help?! Regards -- George Vanev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:41:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCCB16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from voop@free.fr) Received: from ml.free.fr (ml-g19.proxad.net [212.27.60.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1785E13C469 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from voop@free.fr) Received: from ml-g19 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ml.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7628EC368D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:25:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from ml-g19 by ml-g19 (LISTAR/0.42); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:25:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:25:35 +0100 (CET) From: Listar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-listar-antiloop: ml-g19 Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Expiry-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:25:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: Listar: Post sent to moderator. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Reply-To: olympus-repost@ml.free.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:41:17 -0000 >> Post to list olympus >> Subject: Post submitted to moderator for reason: Non-member submission to closed-post list. --- Gestionnaire de liste Listar/0.42 - fin de traitement/job execution complete. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:52:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19D016A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-03.mxes.net (mxout-03.mxes.net [216.86.168.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB81D13C4BD for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAD25190F for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:52:33 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070124125233.1e3a8ec1@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> References: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.0 (GTK+ 2.10.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:52:43 -0000 On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:26 +0100 Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: =20 > By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating > from 4 to 5 is much easier.) Many will suggest (including me) to > install your new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your > programs and users, if possible. That an odd thing to say. The major version number was only bumped to 6 because some interfaces changed. I remember it as a particularly easy upgrade, simpler than the average 5.x to 5.x+1 upgrade. The 4.x to 5.x upgrade was one of the most radical. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:57:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD73F16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: from skywagon.kjsl.com (skywagon.kjsl.com [69.36.240.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB65F13C469 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: from [199.46.16.11] (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com [64.102.254.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: javier) by skywagon.kjsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF672A68D7; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:57:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20070124125233.1e3a8ec1@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <45B4D5FA.7000000@poughkeepsieschools.org> <45B4F7FA.8020308@freemail.hu> <20070124125233.1e3a8ec1@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5C005D0A-9E3D-4820-AF56-5E6FCBECAC05@kjsl.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Javier Henderson Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:57:01 -0500 To: RW X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 -> 6.2 should work right? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:57:04 -0000 On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:52 AM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:44:26 +0100 > Nagy L=E1szl=F3 Zsolt wrote: > >> By the way, updating a system from 5 to 6 is a headache. (Updating >> from 4 to 5 is much easier.) Many will suggest (including me) to >> install your new 6.2 system from binaries, and then transfer your >> programs and users, if possible. > > That an odd thing to say. The major version number was only bumped =20 > to 6 > because some interfaces changed. I remember it as a particularly easy > upgrade, simpler than the average 5.x to 5.x+1 upgrade. The 4.x to 5.x > upgrade was one of the most radical. I will have to agree. I did a remote upgrade of a system running 5.5-=20 RELEASE to 6.2-RELEASE last week, without console access (ie, I had =20 to reboot into multi-user mode a few times during the process) and it =20= worked just fine. -jav From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 12:58:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6746516A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBE613C441 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so161274wxc for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:58:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AFi0F8qDt7IxGHiXUiKUrlGKIxdpMIRV7OHylf2QwPyhOkWGDrhI8WSNYiP7YASdroVbpYmrMZ77Ux26E6X5h/ive6ULWqhRUiMD43mcFX4iuZyGa7tKlvDC8hR+Z8+IjYKPgqGC9g3DQdMtAlL0yNx9/yYeCviFOthozgoKtNo= Received: by 10.70.111.2 with SMTP id j2mr1376372wxc.1169643527568; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:58:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.39.18 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:58:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <14989d6e0701240458v2e91e9c7uc27729a9646751f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:58:47 +0100 From: "Christian Walther" To: "Grzegorz Pluta" In-Reply-To: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:58:48 -0000 On 24/01/07, Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? > > Cheers, > GregZX I like using X. Either start your session locally and login to a remote machine, for example using "ssh -X " and start the application there, or configure the remote X server to listen to tcp, and connect your local X server using X -query . There are some nice Howtos out there, or read the X11 chapter of the FreeBSD manual, especially "The X Display-Manager": http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html Should describe everything you need... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 13:16:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085A216A404 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75E13C4C5 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-69-196.51-151.net24.it [151.51.196.69]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0ODPvef006577 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:26:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0ODHCTh014592; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:17:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml.diespammer@netfence.it) Message-ID: <45B75C16.5080002@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:16:06 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grzegorz Pluta References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 212.31.247.179 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:16:22 -0000 Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? There are really countless possibilities, depends on what you are looking for. I've been using rdesktop to connect to Windows 2000 server/XP/2003 machines. Works really fine. KDE has a frontend for it called krdc. What WM you use should not matter much in any case, since you'll get a window with the whole remote "screen" in it. I've used VNC in the past to connect to older Windows machines, but it's a lot slower. Again kdrc can be used as a frontend to it, and again WM should not matter. Be aware that what you are doing will display on the remote machine's physical screen (can be good, can be bad). It's also possible to run a VNC server on UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD/..., but I never tested this. I prefer to user ssh with X11 forwarding for that; works like a charm when on a local network. Fine, but obviously slower when used remotely. Every single application will have its windows on your screen, mixed with local applications, to the point you can hardly tell the difference. I sometimes used to log to a Digital Alpha box using XDM. Quite slow at the time (pre ADSL) and no encryption (i.e. very poor security); I din't manage that box, so I didn't investigate wether that could be solved. KDE has KDM, Gnome has GDM, which are all (compatible, I believe) alternatives to XDM. They could in some rare cases be an alternative to using a remote shell with direct X11 connections. IIRC KDE has some sort of remote desktop server built in, but I never checked this out. I guess there are other ways too... bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 13:17:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D613D16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from mail.totaldiver.net (fl-209-26-20-205.sta.embarqhsd.net [209.26.20.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFBD13C441 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from questions@totaldiver.net) Received: from mail.totaldiver.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.totaldiver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E00DB873 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.1.2 (SquirrelMail authenticated user questions@totaldiver.net) by mail.totaldiver.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:18:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1619.192.168.1.2.1169644730.squirrel@mail.totaldiver.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Questions" To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: ports with -DBATCH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:17:31 -0000 Hello, I'm writing a script to install a series of ports, and would like to use the following: cd /usr/ports/foo/bar make WITH_OPTION1=yes WITH_OPTION2=yes WITHOUT_ANOTHER=yes -DBATCH install That works as expected, but I would also like those settings written to the /var/db/ports/foobar/options file, so that future upgrades also include the choices I made during the batch install. I've scoured the /usr/ports/Mk/* files, and don't see anything useful for both BATCH and writing to the options file. Suggestions would be much appreciated. Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:11:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E3E16A404 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A611013C474 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 22890 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 14:13:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 14:13:27 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:13:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:13:27 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:11:56 -0000 > On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: >> hi all... >> >> i have a problem compiling ghostscript... >> no mater what version i am using and using the newest port i always get: >> >> gcc: ./src/genconf.c: No such file or directory >> gcc: No input files specified >> *** Error code 1 >> >> apparently that happens only on freebsd... > > Are you installing from ports? no. this is from src.from the port i get: 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to alps/gdevalps.mak-5.50.rej >> Patch patch-alps:gdevalps.mak failed to apply cleanly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gpl. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:19:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B4716A405 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4378F13C45A for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so161403uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:19:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=VDYB42IqRvo9Pa1WHjhNk8vQYcOvHqRlHhUADrQ3flwbJqIUsv0G0/DmT/LfUGDDFXPsIkxBjFG4Vu/KSH5c5IC47dze6Tbq3UWEA73V/T4ZWQ+zY2Ci93NDcDX7Umakp71ICs592bmwvPhO6KHP8CcUibzjSR4a6utOy4LpJI4= Received: by 10.78.158.11 with SMTP id g11mr629329hue.1169646793292; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.140.9 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:53:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:53:12 +0100 From: "Warren Head" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:19:57 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get write access on a nfs share. As far as I can tell by reading around, this should be the syntax in the exports file: /maptoshare machinetoshareto(rw) When I -HUP mountd though, it tells me that the line in the exports file is wrong. So I change it into this: /maptoshare machinetoshareto and then all is fine. I can mount it as well, but I don't have writing access, only reading. How should I specify the (rw) part? Thanks, Warren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:20:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D88D16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B9F13C504 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0OEKlnX051923; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:20:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45B76B3A.3050902@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:20:42 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060925 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grzegorz Pluta References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:20:52 -0000 Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop connections: FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see manpage). FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to like it. Windows -> FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the "window manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D Kevin Kinsey -- Condense soup, not books! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:32:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903016A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF00B13C4A5 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so136752wri for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:32:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rfMCYUEwS1SOixTAv+ynoDs0TCLj34uKXBvoSAo/oxYqGS73s+9slDsGmsnrxJfeegqz9yc/oBG1yoNCFcIXf5bzVHUKWTSh7u4VYLZubFoxe1n/1kgGZFPksuwaBIfhH8cWE3sgxGFr18LS7gg8A1R0H49hax7QZN1eUZD2ad4= Received: by 10.78.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr652637hub.1169649142608; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.140.9 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:32:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51e113440701240632t7a5e6a4apfde6851f7b61271b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:32:22 +0100 From: "Warren Head" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: compiling postgresql with tsearch2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:32:27 -0000 Hi, I am looking for a postgresql installation with the tsearch2 module. I require the tsearch2 module for mediawiki. When I install the mediawiki, it tells me my postgresql server does not have the tsearch2 module loaded. I installed postgresql 8.1-server from the ports. The tsearch2 code is available in one of its subdirectories, but I don't know how I can get that compiled as a module. I am new to FreeBSD, and thus new to the ports, so not having to ./configure --myoptions is new to me. Sofar I like it though. So, should I compile it afterwards or should I change something in some configure file? What I could find on the net is that I should compile tsearch2 from its own directory afterwards, but that is on linux. Thanks, Warren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:36:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759FF16A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416613C4C8 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so165000uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:36:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LAOmI6ML6S2B2UtDYCzOHVCriqFTRkEQ6BcGIYqXfw3psnyecGt3yvCu2JlIVdVJvYoITzFLU4HeGzFypzMN8FtXI1V5jB+tMrLV3RwQoPNX5MCtTp2XdeHzOVHsy2mQ+p8H3JnC2Kq4SU2dxUFsoH/HUBTksNN4ML0lBDBGNyM= Received: by 10.78.171.20 with SMTP id t20mr540823hue.1169649363403; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.140.9 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:36:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:36:03 +0100 From: "Warren Head" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: autostart apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:36:19 -0000 Hi, I would like Apache2 to start automatically when FreeBSD is done booting. I thought that would happen because I placed this inside /etc/rc.conf apache_enable="YES" But that doesn't seem to be the case. It doesn't start automatically, I have to start it manually with: apachectl start Is this behaviour correct or not? Thanks, Warren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 14:52:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800A216A405 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from mail42.e.nsc.no (mail42.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2269B13C46A for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:52:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toreld@netscape.net) Received: from [84.202.200.209] (084202200209.customer.alfanett.no [84.202.200.209]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail42.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l0OEqsQn008860 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:52:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B7707B.20407@netscape.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:43:07 +0100 From: Tore Lund User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Line-spacing and leading in X X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:52:57 -0000 This question drew exactly zero responses on another forum, so I try the experts here: By using Firefox and Thunderbird on both Windows and FreeBSD I have noticed that line-spacing is slightly denser on Windows. Lines are one or two pixels taller on FreeBSD, which probably means that leading is included. Now, leading as part of line-spacing can be turned on and off in X by setting minspace to false or true, respectively. This can be done in ~/.fonts.conf or by including minspace in commands like this one: xterm -fa monospace-11:minspace=true My problem is, this does not work. Initially, I suspected that GTK might have something to with it. However, when I installed 6.2-RELEASE - which I did from scratch - I took care to run the test above with only base and X, and it still did not work. Whatever the reason, Xorg itself seems to be responsible. Anyone know more about this? And, whether in X or GTK, is there a way to control line-spacing? It looks like Gnome adjusts some parameter that has to do with the vertical spacing of icons (in the folder and thread panes of Thunderbird.) I suppose this and other parameters could be adjusted in my ~/.gtkrc-2.0 if only I knew what they are called. -- Tore From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:09:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16CB16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3313C4C6 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0OF9ZMQ028975 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:09:35 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0OF9YjB019802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:09:35 -0800 Message-ID: <45B776AB.2030408@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:09:31 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.24.65432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Warren Head wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get write access on a nfs share. > As far as I can tell by reading around, this should be the syntax in the > exports file: > > /maptoshare machinetoshareto(rw) > > When I -HUP mountd though, it tells me that the line in the exports file is > wrong. > So I change it into this: > /maptoshare machinetoshareto > > and then all is fine. I can mount it as well, but I don't have writing > access, only reading. > > How should I specify the (rw) part? > > Thanks, > > Warren That's more of a non-Sun type exports file format I believe. Here's mine as an example: /store/ad0 hoover shiina mrouter /store/ad1 hoover shiina mrouter /media/cdrom -alldirs,ro -mapall=gcooper:gcooper:wheel hoover Cheers, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt3arEnKyINQw/HARAgzeAKCudIOKe1pOJk9wTOlNb/y9YsVPugCfeLMz uqAbbFtxPKB/JhPzNkl+F+8= =dqf1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:09:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246AA16A40B for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (www.unsane.co.uk [85.233.185.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC7013C480 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from [192.168.10.217] (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0OFA5vS013188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:10:07 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <45B776A8.30802@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:28 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Head References: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:09:42 -0000 Warren Head wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get write access on a nfs share. > As far as I can tell by reading around, this should be the syntax in the > exports file: > > /maptoshare machinetoshareto(rw) > hmm man exports suggests examples such as /usr /usr/local -maproot=0:10 friends /usr -maproot=daemon grumpy.cis.uoguelph.ca 131.104.48.16 /usr -ro -mapall=nobody /u -maproot=bin: -network 131.104.48 -mask 255.255.255.0 /u2 -maproot=root friends /u2 -alldirs -network cis-net -mask cis-mask /cdrom -alldirs,quiet,ro -network 192.168.33.0 -mask 255.255.255.0 so not sure where you got that from. > When I -HUP mountd though, it tells me that the line in the exports file is > wrong. > So I change it into this: > /maptoshare machinetoshareto > > and then all is fine. I can mount it as well, but I don't have writing > access, only reading. > Shoudl be rw by default. who doesnt have writing access? are the unix permissions on both sides correct, if its an issue with root not being able to write, the manpage says: In the absence of -maproot and -mapall options, remote accesses by root will result in using a credential of -2:-2. All other users will be mapped to their remote credential. If a -maproot option is given, remote access by root will be mapped to that credential instead of -2:-2. If a -mapall option is given, all users (including root) will be mapped to that credential in place of their own. Hope this helps, sorry for the RTFM but is a cliche for a reason :) Vince > How should I specify the (rw) part? > > Thanks, > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:18:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C728716A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from orchid.homeunix.org (avs237.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.27.52.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29813C551 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Received: from blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org (blackacidevil.orchid.homeunix.org [192.168.1.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by orchid.homeunix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0OFI1eM037917 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:18:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org) Message-ID: <45B778A2.3030702@orchid.homeunix.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:17:54 +0100 From: Karol Kwiatkowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (X11/20070119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Head References: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 OpenPGP: id=06E09309; url=http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1CB6705CB584D9CA29CF2A49" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2486/Wed Jan 24 15:47:09 2007 on orchid.homeunix.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autostart apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:18:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1CB6705CB584D9CA29CF2A49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warren Head wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I would like Apache2 to start automatically when FreeBSD is done bootin= g. > I thought that would happen because I placed this inside /etc/rc.conf >=20 > apache_enable=3D"YES" >=20 > But that doesn't seem to be the case. It doesn't start automatically, I= > have >=20 > to start it manually with: > apachectl start >=20 > Is this behaviour correct or not? It depends on which version you've installed (was it www/apache20? www/apache21?) Have a look at 'pkg-message' file in the ports tree, here's for apache22 for example: % $ cat /usr/ports/www/apache22/pkg-message % To run apache www server from startup, add apache22_enable=3D"YES" % in your /etc/rc.conf. Extra options can be found in startup script. HTH, Karol --=20 Karol Kwiatkowski OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc --------------enig1CB6705CB584D9CA29CF2A49 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt3ipezeoPAwGIYsRCL05AKCeZWVpT+efAwXEdp+5Jg1KmYMmMwCdECSc h6KOVBBhi6bbmFPZhxOLkn4= =OWyR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1CB6705CB584D9CA29CF2A49-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:21:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D451616A404 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DAE13C45E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0OFLmVO018405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:21:48 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.41] (c-67-187-172-166.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.166]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l0OFLliB021288 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:21:47 -0800 Message-ID: <45B77988.2060805@u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:21:44 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20070124095325.4129013C4B8@mx1.freebsd.org> <45B76B3A.3050902@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <45B76B3A.3050902@daleco.biz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.1.24.70935 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:21:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Grzegorz Pluta wrote: >> Hi. >> Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? >> Which >> client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env >> have you >> been using it? > > I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop > connections: > > FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see > manpage). > > FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works > beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to > like it. > > Windows -> FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind > of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the > breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the "window > manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D > > Kevin Kinsey Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats to using different means of connecting. Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want to install KDE. X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on all ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 connection. VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort of bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 only widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better than gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap the connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a large LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, so passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable individual. I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but it's a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. Cheers, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt3mHEnKyINQw/HARAr1VAJ47ezl8/9q419n4+yccB3zkpx7HRgCfbOub FqdQscYz6GQlSH3EJKcO67U= =qIhM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:24:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA6216A40A for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA8E13C4DA for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (archangel.daleco.biz [69.27.145.126]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l0OFNvdm052384; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:24:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45B77A08.4060703@daleco.biz> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:23:52 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060925 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Head References: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:24:03 -0000 Warren Head wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get write access on a nfs share. > As far as I can tell by reading around, this should be the syntax in the > exports file: > > /maptoshare machinetoshareto(rw) > > When I -HUP mountd though, it tells me that the line in the exports file is > wrong. > So I change it into this: > /maptoshare machinetoshareto > > and then all is fine. I can mount it as well, but I don't have writing > access, only reading. > > How should I specify the (rw) part? You don't need to specify "rw" as such --- it is the default, which is why you get an error message when you attempt to do so. See exports(5) for more information about the configuration file. You don't say much about whom should have access, and to what, but I suspect you want to either use "-maproot=user" or "-public" or ? .... Disclaimer: IANAE. Kevin Kinsey -- Ain't no right way to do a wrong thing. -- The Mad Dogtender From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:26:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C343B16A526 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:26:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: from smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CC9213C4B7 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from heli@mikestammer.com) Received: (qmail 12156 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2007 15:26:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mikestammer.com) (mikestammer@sbcglobal.net@70.131.134.249 with login) by smtp114.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 15:26:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nRiQoKcVM1lgz0ltzf.Ba_0m4iXy2fJJl0zMshD88sEo45cKrLXEXvhbrgb3_ziBtr2_FmGvyKevXslGcBBjMVfK7xjON9MGhS6XegvEE3H117tboKvU5Q-- Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECA41146C; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:15 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mikestammer.com Received: from mail.mikestammer.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gondolin.middleearth.mikestammer.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0g3+scjv0-R; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: eric) by mail.mikestammer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B761141B; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <45B77A93.6020607@mikestammer.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:26:11 -0600 From: Eric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Windows/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd@orchid.homeunix.org References: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> <45B778A2.3030702@orchid.homeunix.org> In-Reply-To: <45B778A2.3030702@orchid.homeunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Warren Head , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autostart apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:26:18 -0000 Karol Kwiatkowski wrote: > Warren Head wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like Apache2 to start automatically when FreeBSD is done booting. >> I thought that would happen because I placed this inside /etc/rc.conf >> >> apache_enable="YES" >> >> But that doesn't seem to be the case. It doesn't start automatically, I >> have >> >> to start it manually with: >> apachectl start >> >> Is this behaviour correct or not? >> a good rule of thumb is to always check out the startup script. it will give you the parameter to add to rc.conf in order to get things to start up automatically From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:28:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273DF16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfruge4@lsu.edu) Received: from gate012.lsu.edu (gate012.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.184.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F312413C461 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfruge4@lsu.edu) Received: from [130.39.198.198] ([130.39.198.198]) by gate012.lsu.edu (Lotus Domino Release 6.0.3) with ESMTP id 2007012409134390-690 ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:13:43 -0600 From: Joshua =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frug=E9?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240632t7a5e6a4apfde6851f7b61271b@mail.gmail.com> References: <51e113440701240632t7a5e6a4apfde6851f7b61271b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:13:43 -0600 Message-Id: <1169651623.25419.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Warren Head Subject: Re: compiling postgresql with tsearch2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:28:53 -0000 go to=20 /usr/ports/databases/postgresql81-server/work/postgresql-8.1.6/contrib/tsea= rch2 in here you can do a gmake and a make install I think then=20 psql wikidb < tsearch2.sql -U wikiuser or something along those lines... --=20 Joshua Frug=C3=A9 Louisiana State University Information Technology Services=20 Email: jfruge4@lsu.edu On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 15:32 +0100, Warren Head wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am looking for a postgresql installation with the tsearch2 module. > I require the tsearch2 module for mediawiki. When I install the mediawiki= , > it tells me my postgresql server does not have the tsearch2 module loaded= . >=20 > I installed postgresql 8.1-server from the ports. The tsearch2 code is > available in one of its subdirectories, but I don't know how I can get th= at > compiled as a module. >=20 > I am new to FreeBSD, and thus new to the ports, so not having to ./config= ure > --myoptions is new to me. > Sofar I like it though. > So, should I compile it afterwards or should I change something in some > configure file? >=20 > What I could find on the net is that I should compile tsearch2 from its o= wn > directory afterwards, but that is on linux. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Warren > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:41:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E85416A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) Received: from mail.segi.pl (mail.segi.pl [89.171.92.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45DE13C4BE for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL: 0.168,BAYES_00: -1.665,TOTAL_SCORE: -1.497 X-Spam-Level: Received: from gregslap ([217.17.37.3]) (authenticated user grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) by mail.segi.pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:41:36 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Pluta" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:41:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <45B75C16.5080002@netfence.it> Thread-Index: Acc/udZJWkbkgYwmTjGshDEnYT6BBgAFDisg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070124154137.A45DE13C4BE@mx1.freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:38 -0000 Thanks for a huge reply! It was really usefull ;] Cheers, gregZX -----Original Message----- From: Andrea Venturoli [mailto:ml.diespammer@netfence.it] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:16 PM To: Grzegorz Pluta Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Remote Desktop Connection Grzegorz Pluta wrote: > Hi. > Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? Which > client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env have you > been using it? There are really countless possibilities, depends on what you are looking for. I've been using rdesktop to connect to Windows 2000 server/XP/2003 machines. Works really fine. KDE has a frontend for it called krdc. What WM you use should not matter much in any case, since you'll get a window with the whole remote "screen" in it. I've used VNC in the past to connect to older Windows machines, but it's a lot slower. Again kdrc can be used as a frontend to it, and again WM should not matter. Be aware that what you are doing will display on the remote machine's physical screen (can be good, can be bad). It's also possible to run a VNC server on UNIX/Linux/FreeBSD/..., but I never tested this. I prefer to user ssh with X11 forwarding for that; works like a charm when on a local network. Fine, but obviously slower when used remotely. Every single application will have its windows on your screen, mixed with local applications, to the point you can hardly tell the difference. I sometimes used to log to a Digital Alpha box using XDM. Quite slow at the time (pre ADSL) and no encryption (i.e. very poor security); I din't manage that box, so I didn't investigate wether that could be solved. KDE has KDM, Gnome has GDM, which are all (compatible, I believe) alternatives to XDM. They could in some rare cases be an alternative to using a remote shell with direct X11 connections. IIRC KDE has some sort of remote desktop server built in, but I never checked this out. I guess there are other ways too... bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:41:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A794116A4CA for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687B013C457 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so156725wri for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:41:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=tZgGTFaGsIZJqMPY7/NDfx8lM4UzB88BqyOfjseTj5h9BnLSG6l+twkrksHDr2Wq+Z3yVSWj38EyOK6q1o5X5AddwUfyAQhTTUWxq0VuYZfQBJieduov7Okw32GBQ3dlXrNSMsJe69ZyVClxuuaOvGuLEGhzIgrYFuB+u+p8NVo= Received: by 10.78.142.14 with SMTP id p14mr600129hud.1169653242332; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:40:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:40:42 +0300 From: "Andrew Pantyukhin" Sender: infofarmer@gmail.com To: kalin@el.net In-Reply-To: <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 22cc0b7ab7ee23f3 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:41:43 -0000 On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: > > On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: > >> hi all... > >> > >> i have a problem compiling ghostscript... > >> no mater what version i am using and using the newest port i always get: > >> > >> gcc: ./src/genconf.c: No such file or directory > >> gcc: No input files specified > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> apparently that happens only on freebsd... > > > > Are you installing from ports? > > no. this is from src.from the port i get: > > 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to alps/gdevalps.mak-5.50.rej > >> Patch patch-alps:gdevalps.mak failed to apply cleanly. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gpl. Forget about src. Try updating your ports. Try ghostscript-afpl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:44:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5480916A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) Received: from mail.segi.pl (mail.segi.pl [89.171.92.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DA013C4C7 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.5 tests=AWL: 0.126,BAYES_00: -1.665,TOTAL_SCORE: -1.539 X-Spam-Level: Received: from gregslap ([217.17.37.3]) (authenticated user grzegorz.pluta@segi.pl) by mail.segi.pl for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:44:46 +0100 From: "Grzegorz Pluta" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:44:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <45B77988.2060805@u.washington.edu> Thread-Index: Acc/zD4IQLdHWaCRSEiMb9rYoZoD9QAAjoiw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070124154447.A6DA013C4C7@mx1.freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Remote Desktop Connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:44:48 -0000 Thanks for all the replies guys! It was really helpful Cheers, Greg Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Grzegorz Pluta wrote: >> Hi. >> Id like to asj you guys if you used any remote desktops with freebsd? >> Which >> client/server would you recommend, and why? Witch wich desktop env >> have you >> been using it? > > I use Xorg & XFCE4 on my FreeBSD desktop(s). For remote desktop > connections: > > FreeBSD -> FreeBSD: ssh with X11 forwarding (-X or -Y options, see > manpage). > > FreeBSD -> Windows: rdesktop (/usr/ports/net/rdesktop). Works > beautifully for work. Can't recall which, but some games don't seem to > like it. > > Windows -> FreeBSD: freeXer and PuTTY with X11 forwarding enabled. Kind > of interesting to have my FreeBSD desktop apps on my wife's lappy at the > breakfast table ;-). With this setup, Windows actually is the "window > manager" --- kinda disconcerting at first glance :-D > > Kevin Kinsey Overall, as many have suggest on the list there are a number of caveats to using different means of connecting. Here's a short rundown with all of my comments: rdesktop and krdc (KDE rdesktop) work for connecting to Windows NT 5.0+ servers. Don't have a Windows server that meets that spec? Probably won't need rdesktop/krdc then.. Don't install krdc unless you also want to install KDE. X11 forwarding through ssh is great when you're connections between you and the remote machine are relatively fast (fast up on the server, fast down on the client). Compression with ssh (-C flag--not available on all ssh or ssh2 implementations) is a good idea when using this to connect remotely because there's a lot of data that gets piped through an X11 connection. VNC is better for keeping remote sessions active after disconnecting from the machine. There are many VNC servers software titles, but you will either probably look into tightvnc (creates a new X session per instance), or x11vnc (connects to an existing X session on your machine). Quality, speed and latency are an issue here as VNC is sort of bad at caching tiles on the desktop. Using a lightweight wm or desktop is a wise idea though without a desktop picture and sticking to X11 only widgets (xclock, xterm, etc) is a good idea as the redraw is better than gtk or qt apps or other programs (firefox, thunderbird). Try to wrap the connection using portforwarding via SSH if you're logged in from a large LAN or over a WAN because everything sent with tightvnc is cleartext, so passwords, credit card numbers, etc can be sniffed by a knowledgeable individual. I'm still amazed that nomachinex hasn't been ported to FreeBSD, but it's a complete binary release of a 'hacked' X11 system, so the devs at the nomachine group probably haven't gotten around to porting it yet. Cheers, - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt3mHEnKyINQw/HARAr1VAJ47ezl8/9q419n4+yccB3zkpx7HRgCfbOub FqdQscYz6GQlSH3EJKcO67U= =qIhM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 15:47:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E82C16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F95313C4A7 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (czgzuv@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l0OFlUZg098160 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:47:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id l0OFlUJR098159; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:47:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:47:30 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200701241547.l0OFlUJR098159@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17846.45976.831959.633584@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-questions User-Agent: tin/1.8.2-20060425 ("Shillay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-STABLE (i386)) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:47:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: [OT] What does this pipe do? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:47:42 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > youshi10@u.washington.edu writes: > > I know this is a Unix shell command, and off-topic, but I'm > > curious. I've been reading a few 'make' commands at work that end > > in "|&" and I was wondering if that redirection string is > > synonymous to "| /dev/stdout". > > That's (t)csh-speak for "send both stdout and stderr to the > pipe". '|' only covers stdout. Just for completeness, ">&" (file) and ">|" (pipe) are also supported by zsh (which is a bourne-shell like sh, ksh or bash). In fact it's simply a shortcut for "2>&1" (which means to dup descriptor 2 [=stderr] to desciptor 1 [=stdout]). The effect is, as several people have pointed out, to redirect both stdout and stderr to the same file or pipe, respectively. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing Dienstleistungen mit Schwerpunkt FreeBSD: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible." -- John William Chambless From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:04:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4668116A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (dsl081-227-250.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E7713C428 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l0OG4Tx2002754; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:04:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20070124100254.0260e310@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:04:15 -0600 To: "Warren Head" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: autostart apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:04:59 -0000 Check the startup script in /usr/local/etc, you may need to add set -x at the top of the script to see why it isn't started it at boot. -Derek At 08:36 AM 1/24/2007, Warren Head wrote: >Hi, > >I would like Apache2 to start automatically when FreeBSD is done booting. >I thought that would happen because I placed this inside /etc/rc.conf > >apache_enable="YES" > >But that doesn't seem to be the case. It doesn't start automatically, I have > >to start it manually with: >apachectl start > >Is this behaviour correct or not? > >Thanks, Warren >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. >MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:19:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E3816A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A481813C4C5 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.barnardq@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so189581uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:19:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tj54nZpne2IhxI0bZB/I00vAikGIKowwwl2CT/wDHqadFc3fulMkHOxhKP3FLOUrmhdXAYxd97gtq3catGw1iOMTJ/0Zv4QyXLD48tujoHj2IM4t0uL5HV+yUJ1d/Y8NlzNBes8vcUFdnxsINQ6a68YNOehYrGEY66LhbhyJayk= Received: by 10.82.169.4 with SMTP id r4mr264365bue.1169655584904; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.168.13 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:19:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7dc029620701240819v3876b799g600cfd20f60f5c9a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:19:44 +0300 From: "Mike Barnard" To: "Derek Ragona" In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20070124100254.0260e310@mail.computinginnovations.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <51e113440701240636q60e5e05an6bcfe50d6acae13c@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20070124100254.0260e310@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Warren Head , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: autostart apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:47 -0000 Hi, , > > > >I would like Apache2 to start automatically when FreeBSD is done booting. > >I thought that would happen because I placed this inside /etc/rc.conf > > > >apache_enable="YES" > > you cannot start any of the apache2x family like that in FreeBSD, that is for apache13, for apache2x you need to specify apache2_enable="YES" or apache22_enable="YES" in the rc.conf file... depending on which apache you have installed, also, check /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh (it can be apache2.sh as well) and look out for lines that look like the rc.conf enable settings, that should guide you on how to include it in your rc.conf >But that doesn't seem to be the case. It doesn't start automatically, I > have > > make those changes above and you should have no problem Regards -- Mike -- Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:19:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B1C16A409 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dharris@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5545713C441 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dharris@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so208452wxc for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:19:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=SkdjJXzzNb3GUtISUt+ZXS8V85iyYarlbCBdTNfNq9oAs9xxqajh5IoLn+IniYebwhXUMTCRYlGirBMfgcQzqK/Y+jIkqeOGMCyvEXODJggfDlzkYFT88jIU7Eh2BM+k2OhvVsIhn2kk85Kt2RUXU/WQQxvxeM/s0jJQz+IO1TM= Received: by 10.70.90.12 with SMTP id n12mr1663700wxb.1169654069060; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.12.13 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:54:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:54:28 -0500 From: "Doug Harris" Sender: dharris@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 67fe66dc1d3b88a9 Subject: Re: automake19: texinfo error during build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:19:56 -0000 I'm new to the list, but I'm having the same problem as somebody else reported earlier this month. I'm trying to install subversion (by doing "cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion/ && make install clean") and I'm getting stuck on the build of automake19 with the same error as reported earlier: ===> Building for automake-1.9.6 Making all in . Making all in doc restore=: && backupdir=".am$$" && am__cwd=`pwd` && cd . && rm -rf $backupdir && mkdir $backupdir && if (makeinfo --no-split --version) >/dev/null 2>&1; then for f in ./automake19.info ./automake19.info-[0-9] ./automake19.info-[0-9][0-9] ./automake19.i[0-9] ./automake19.i[0-9][0-9]; do if test -f $f; then mv $f $backupdir; restore=mv; else :; fi; done; else :; fi && cd "$am__cwd"; if makeinfo --no-split -I . -o ./automake19.info ./automake19.texi; then rc=0; cd .; else rc=$?; cd . && $restore $backupdir/* `echo "././automake19.info" | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`; fi; rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc ./automake19.texi:8788: Unknown command `tie'. ./automake19.texi:8788: Misplaced {. ./automake19.texi:8788: Misplaced }. ./automake19.texi:9090: Unknown command `tie'. ./automake19.texi:9090: Misplaced {. ./automake19.texi:9090: Misplaced }. ./automake19.texi:9310: Unknown command `tie'. ./automake19.texi:9310: Misplaced {. ./automake19.texi:9310: Misplaced }. ./automake19.texi:9318: Unknown command `tie'. ./automake19.texi:9318: Misplaced {. ./automake19.texi:9318: Misplaced }. makeinfo: Removing output file `./automake19.info' due to errors; use --force to preserve. Per requests from earlier responses, here's my env (with some hostnames and IPs changed): BLOCKSIZE=K EDITOR=vi FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES GROUP=wheel HOME=/root HOST=FOO.BAR.net HOSTTYPE=FreeBSD LOGNAME=root MACHTYPE=i386 MAIL=/var/mail/root OLDPWD=/usr/ports/devel/automake19 OSTYPE=FreeBSD PAGER=more PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/www/bin:/root/bin PWD=/usr/ports/devel/subversion REMOTEHOST=999.999.999.999 SHELL=/bin/csh SHLVL=2 TERM=xterm USER=root VENDOR=intel _=/usr/bin/env From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:26:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F8F16A408 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB513C4BE for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 55632 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 16:28:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 16:28:00 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:28:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <62686.74.64.6.149.1169656080.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:28:00 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:26:28 -0000 > > Forget about src. Try updating your ports. Try > ghostscript-afpl. ok... same crap: >>> extracting gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch ... ===> Patching for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 -e: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-afpl. what next? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:33:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E37E16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92F613C47E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 57241 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 16:35:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 16:35:00 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54732.74.64.6.149.1169656500.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Andrew Pantyukhin" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:33:34 -0000 all the nox11 ones are breaking at the same place - the freakin' gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch i don;t want all this drivers... i just need cli utility to turn a postscript file into an image - jpg or png.. it seams its only doable with ghostscript...; > On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: >> > On 1/24/07, kalin mintchev wrote: >> >> hi all... >> >> >> >> i have a problem compiling ghostscript... >> >> no mater what version i am using and using the newest port i always >> get: >> >> >> >> gcc: ./src/genconf.c: No such file or directory >> >> gcc: No input files specified >> >> *** Error code 1 >> >> >> >> apparently that happens only on freebsd... >> > >> > Are you installing from ports? >> >> no. this is from src.from the port i get: >> >> 1 out of 1 hunks ignored--saving rejects to alps/gdevalps.mak-5.50.rej >> >> Patch patch-alps:gdevalps.mak failed to apply cleanly. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-gpl. > > Forget about src. Try updating your ports. Try > ghostscript-afpl. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 16:40:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE33316A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giorgosfm@yahoo.gr) Received: from web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.177.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20DF013C457 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from giorgosfm@yahoo.gr) Received: (qmail 13670 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2007 16:40:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.gr; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gPNkbr9axqNyIw8wZePig6cp/QHz2k77L6A/8FRhm9pOzVNsvHSMLIpDkAUEpmzLQFKUFE99Hda6RZZMc7CuAjYF0up+hSL6ERw5L89xFudZ7RKD3OkBCCADtMJw7KOw3t4n+wRZAj/Syz9a6TWwUNNGL+kuCIepsOHxs1Cxem0= ; Message-ID: <20070124164039.13668.qmail@web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 27LH9J8VM1kN7sC.hTw_SqtvTwTB.txtGgZeTdrPtaQOmc7soiUkubxnm8gskIcVgLgTqUtGDxFxihxEPSOh.HOCLIhB0bvFDfYkO6OKOv3787RD8BQa5YY2fAuAx7krYc5f7oGE3fDO Received: from [88.218.43.56] by web27606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:40:39 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:40:39 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-7?q?=C3=E9=F9=F1=E3=EF=F2=20=D6=F9=F4=E5=E9=ED=EF=F0=EF=F5=EB?= =?iso-8859-7?q?=EF=F2?= To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1672220318-1169656839=:13013" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Does 82915PM/GMS support dri??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:40:41 -0000 --0-1672220318-1169656839=:13013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello there, i have a problem configuring dri support for my laptop (a celeron 1.5Ghz, with i915GM GMCH chipset and 768Mb memory).Does anyone knows firstly if there is a support for this chipset?If so, can you please check the glxinfo and dmesg and tell me what's wrong? Thanks for the time. --------------------------------- ×ñçóéìïðïéåßôå Yahoo! ÂáñåèÞêáôå ôá åíï÷ëçôéêÜ ìçíý ìáôá (spam); Ôï Yahoo! 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m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <45B78FE1.50105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:57:05 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin@el.net References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> <62686.74.64.6.149.1169656080.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: <62686.74.64.6.149.1169656080.squirrel@mail.el.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6DB33ECF71BC5AA42009AB87" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:57:30 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2486/Wed Jan 24 14:47:09 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_POLICY_TESTING,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:57:39 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6DB33ECF71BC5AA42009AB87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kalin mintchev wrote: >> Forget about src. Try updating your ports. Try >> ghostscript-afpl. >=20 > ok... same crap: >=20 >>>> extracting gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch ... > =3D=3D=3D> Patching for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 > =3D=3D=3D> Applying FreeBSD patches for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 > -e: not found > *** Error code 127 >=20 > Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-afpl. >=20 >=20 > what next? What's the result if you type: make -V REINPLACE_CMD=20 in the Ghostscript port directory? It should look like this: happy-idiot-talk:...ports/print/ghostscript-afpl:% make -V REINPLACE_CMD /usr/bin/sed -i.bak Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6DB33ECF71BC5AA42009AB87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.1 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt4/q8Mjk52CukIwRCF6pAJ9YGqAjVknwmjgQLhGfPzEg4fooEwCfWi5e tqz4aA7oTIhDZMgEg27URLE= =FcUc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6DB33ECF71BC5AA42009AB87-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 17:06:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD50B16A405 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls405.t-com.hr (ls405.t-com.hr [195.29.150.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4906313C465 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@fer.hr) Received: from ls242.t-com.hr (ls242.t-com.hr [195.29.150.134]) by ls405.t-com.hr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB95147091; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from ls242.t-com.hr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ls242.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 9EBE810F8049; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from ls242.t-com.hr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ls242.t-com.hr (Qmlai) with ESMTP id 87A7F10F803E; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:58 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-Sender-Info: qNMqIwJL6pMxrLsv6Bv6Q0pNlQW/GPGSaQ2CcGWneZhM9iIFzLoPeE8q5w/auABt X-Envelope-Sender: ivoras@fer.hr Received: from [10.0.0.103] (89-172-46-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr [89.172.46.110]) by ls242.t-com.hr (Qmali) with ESMTP id 860FC6C0074; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B791E4.9030500@fer.hr> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:05:40 +0100 From: Ivan Voras User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philippe Lang References: <45B445B8.2090804@skyhawk.ca> <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F421D171A@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F4218CD41@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> In-Reply-To: <6C0CF58A187DA5479245E0830AF84F4218CD41@poweredge.attiksystem.ch> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8A139C4471AF1539B6AFE882" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:06:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8A139C4471AF1539B6AFE882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philippe Lang wrote: > Hum, that means LAN works on a SuperMicro X7DBE motherboard? That's Note that I'm really emphasizing that I don't know *why* it was working := ) > really good news! I was hesitating buying one, because of the supposed > lack of 82563EB support, but I see I'm wrong. Can anyone explain how > this chip could be supported, even if not mentioned in the driver itsel= f > and in the documentation? >=20 > Ivan, do you have the opportunity to open your server, and check what > LAN chip there is inside? Sorry, no, it went to a client and I don't have physical access to it. --------------enig8A139C4471AF1539B6AFE882 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFt5HqldnAQVacBcgRAvOiAJ9I/gaY7tuLn72HgoutNt3Oz3JWpgCgsjYg g4lzE56uzpdFBP7CNhWXLfM= =L5MU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8A139C4471AF1539B6AFE882-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 17:24:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E223316A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from achilles.leela.ws (achilles.leela.ws [66.207.162.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DE213C448 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.0.249] ([158.145.111.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by achilles.leela.ws (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0OHNuHH063383 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:24:01 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from pgiessel@mac.com) Message-ID: <45B79625.3050601@mac.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:23:49 -0900 From: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kalin@el.net References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> <54732.74.64.6.149.1169656500.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: <54732.74.64.6.149.1169656500.squirrel@mail.el.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:24:07 -0000 On 2007/01/24 7:35, kalin mintchev seems to have typed: > > all the nox11 ones are breaking at the same place - the freakin' > gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch > > i don;t want all this drivers... i just need cli utility to turn a > postscript file into an image - jpg or png.. it seams its only doable > with ghostscript...; Why don't you just uncheck?: [ ] lex7000 Lexmark 7000 [LEX7000] in the config options screen? cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-afpl make Up comes the "AFPL Ghostscript driver configuration" screen. Just uncheck all the printers except the image ones... [X] jpeg JPEG format, RGB output [X] jpeggray JPEG format, gray output [X] pngmono PNG Monochrome Portable Network Graphics [X] pnggray PNG 8-bit gray Portable Network Graphics [X] png16 PNG 4-bit color Portable Network Graphics [X] png256 PNG 8-bit color Portable Network Graphics [X] png16m PNG 24-bit color Portable Network Graphics [X] pngalpha PNG 32-bit RGBA color Portable Network Graphics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 17:42:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E25016A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@revolt.com) Received: from mail.cow.org (neu.cow.org [66.94.69.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E537C13C45E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:42:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@revolt.com) Received: by mail.cow.org (Postfix, from userid 1014) id D838BB8B3; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:42:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:42:23 -0500 From: chris neill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070124174223.GA56974@revolt.com> References: <20070123021622.GA39711@revolt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070123021622.GA39711@revolt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: 6.2-REL w/ SuperMicro Pentium D board, installer problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:42:25 -0000 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:16:22PM -0500, chris neill wrote: > It is my understanding that the new Dualcore Pentiums fall under the auspices of the AMD64 port.. > > Anywho, whenever I try to run the bootonly installer, the boot stalls here: > > acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave PIO4 > > If I run from an i386 kernel, everything is hunky-dorey. From dmesg: > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (3391.51-MHz 686-class CPU) [snip] .. Any takers? I'll follow up with the output of boot -v from the AMD64 bootonly disc later in the day, if need be. Thanks in advance, -C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 18:13:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCADE16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@chlgroup.com) Received: from gateway.chlgroup.com (netblock-68-183-140-41.dslextreme.com [68.183.140.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797D013C45D for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@chlgroup.com) Received: from [192.168.100.51] (firewall [68.183.140.198]) by gateway.chlgroup.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id l0OHxQXE008313 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:59:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@chlgroup.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Greg Himes Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:59:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 68.183.140.41 Subject: Qlogic QMH2462 Fibre Channel on HP Blade Servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:13:19 -0000 Hello All, I'm trying to install 6.2 Release on an HP blade, but the isp driver doesn't recognize the new Qlogic fibre channel adapters. I also tried stopping at the boot loader and manually loading /boot/kernel/isp.ko, but the fibre channel still doesn't work. Because of the way the blades are managed, I can't capture the device info at boot time. However, they are seen as serial fibre channel devices by pci. Is there a patch for isp forthcoming? Any suggestions? (I'm only subscribed to freebsd-isp, so please copy me with any replies) Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 18:49:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B05216A401 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dds@aueb.gr) Received: from mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAC913C43E for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dds@aueb.gr) Received: from mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-02.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0OHIgt1016591 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:18:42 +0200 Received: from mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (mx-in-04.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.163]) by mx-av-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OHIfTP017356 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:18:41 +0200 Received: from [192.168.136.22] (ppp197-7.adsl.forthnet.gr [62.1.146.7]) by mx-in-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l0OHIb6Q004012 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:18:38 +0200 Authentication-Results: mx-in-04.forthnet.gr from=dds@aueb.gr; sender-id=neutral; spf=neutral Message-ID: <45B794E5.4070709@aueb.gr> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:18:29 +0200 From: Diomidis Spinellis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061211 SeaMonkey/1.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrading from 4 to 6 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:49:06 -0000 With the EOL of FreeBSD 4.X coming close, I'm in the process of upgrading to 6.2. According to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/migration-guide.html#UPGRADE "Probably the most straightforward approach is that of ``backup everything, reformat, reinstall, and restore user data''." However, things are not that simple, because a system typically has many configured files, other than user data. I'm currently setting up a new 6.2 system on a VMWare host trying to mirror the existing system. After a clean installation of 6.2, I also installed ports and some CPAN modules. I then configured the apache configuration files, the sendmail local host file, the named masters and configuration file, /etc/inetd.conf, /etc/rc.conf, and the imap certificates. Just before the switchoover, I'll also also need to copy the users parts of /etc/passwd* and /etc/group, the mail aliases, the httpd logs, the user mailboxes in /var/mail, and, of course, /home. However, I have an uneasy feeling I may miss copying/adjusting some files. Although I've documented the changes I made to the original system from 2002 onward, the documentation is a 1000-line file and I can't be sure it is 100% complete or that I will spot all required changes. Is there a checklist or a procedure for restoring a 4.X system configuration to a system running 6.X? Am I missing any obvious files or directories I should copy over? Diomidis Spinellis - http://www.spinellis.gr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 19:08:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74D116A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4512B13C448 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 97239 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 19:10:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 19:10:29 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:10:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <64303.74.64.6.149.1169665829.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: <45B79625.3050601@mac.com> References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> <54732.74.64.6.149.1169656500.squirrel@mail.el.net> <45B79625.3050601@mac.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:10:29 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Peter A. Giessel" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:08:57 -0000 > On 2007/01/24 7:35, kalin mintchev seems to have typed: >> >> all the nox11 ones are breaking at the same place - the freakin' >> gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch >> >> i don;t want all this drivers... i just need cli utility to turn a >> postscript file into an image - jpg or png.. it seams its only doable >> with ghostscript...; > > Why don't you just uncheck?: > [ ] lex7000 Lexmark 7000 [LEX7000] > > in the config options screen?\ options screen????!!! i'd love an option screen.... whats the command line option to ignore options?? > > cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-afpl > make > > Up comes the "AFPL Ghostscript driver configuration" screen. Just > uncheck all the printers except the image ones... > > [X] jpeg JPEG format, RGB output > [X] jpeggray JPEG format, gray output > > [X] pngmono PNG Monochrome Portable Network Graphics > [X] pnggray PNG 8-bit gray Portable Network Graphics > [X] png16 PNG 4-bit color Portable Network Graphics > [X] png256 PNG 8-bit color Portable Network Graphics > [X] png16m PNG 24-bit color Portable Network Graphics > [X] pngalpha PNG 32-bit RGBA color Portable Network Graphics > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 19:11:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1504116A404 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: from mail.el.net (mail.el.net [68.165.89.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1713C45B for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kalin@el.net) Received: (qmail 98038 invoked by uid 1008); 24 Jan 2007 19:13:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.el.net) (127.0.0.1) by mail.el.net with SMTP; 24 Jan 2007 19:13:22 -0000 Received: from 74.64.6.149 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kalin@el.net) by mail.el.net with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:13:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <61271.74.64.6.149.1169666002.squirrel@mail.el.net> In-Reply-To: <45B78FE1.50105@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <58592.68.165.89.71.1169629752.squirrel@mail.el.net> <57582.74.64.6.149.1169648007.squirrel@mail.el.net> <62686.74.64.6.149.1169656080.squirrel@mail.el.net> <45B78FE1.50105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: "kalin mintchev" To: "Matthew Seaman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kalin@el.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:11:50 -0000 > kalin mintchev wrote: >>> Forget about src. Try updating your ports. Try >>> ghostscript-afpl. >> >> ok... same crap: >> >>>>> extracting gs6.0.lexmark7000.patch ... >> ===> Patching for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 >> ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for ghostscript-afpl-8.54,1 >> -e: not found >> *** Error code 127 >> >> Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript-afpl. >> >> >> what next? > > What's the result if you type: > > make -V REINPLACE_CMD a new line.... absolutly nothing..... > > in the Ghostscript port directory? It should look like this: > > happy-idiot-talk:...ports/print/ghostscript-afpl:% make -V REINPLACE_CMD > /usr/bin/sed -i.bak > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 20:00:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3953C16A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B9D13C468 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:00:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warrenhead@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so238337uge for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oE5wrbdjPjd8U5brb7CRt/bfPbED4JclqW1rL4y2ARW1vyDDI4vOWmLMTS6Vempqb4s5NNFp7W6dKzo5EA3BCDxyUX83+R5W4cZIeNuta/vcnRdJDjAvCqy70BJ74Nll0BuHmIDfOYoyLcH4w1fAV4wcfpDNNnK6R+u2VeMh4hE= Received: by 10.66.232.10 with SMTP id e10mr1539758ugh.1169668853392; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.179.11? ( [81.206.93.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 27sm1544558ugp.2007.01.24.12.00.52; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:00:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B7BAFC.50808@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:01:00 +0100 From: WarrenHead User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> <45B776A8.30802@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45B776A8.30802@unsane.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:00:55 -0000 Vince schreef: > so not sure where you got that from. > > Hi Vince, Well, I got that from numerous man pages through google. One of the first ten results of 'man exports' was even a link to www.freebsd.org. But, now I see on the server that the man page there really is different. A difference then between linux and bsd I guess. > Shoudl be rw by default. who doesnt have writing access? Should it be? Well, it isn't right now. My own user account under ubuntu doesn't have write access by default, nor does root. > are the unix > permissions on both sides correct, I'm not using nis (yet), so perhaps that is what is needed here? I never used nfs before, if that wasn't totally obvious. :-) The exports syntax shown in the local man page is helping me out. The options are all working, -mapall is usefull, but what I really want is the 'rw by default' bit. So that each user can create files and get their own uid:gid accordingly. If NIS is the answer here, I would not be surprised. Could it be? Thanks, Warren From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 20:09:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF0216A404 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A3013C459 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay8.apple.com (a17-128-113-38.apple.com [17.128.113.38]) by mail-out4.apple.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0OK9wVa004532; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay8.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay8.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id E347140088; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807126-a2e83bb000000245-1a-45b7bd15caab Received: from [17.214.13.96] (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay8.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id CCACC40012; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45B7BAFC.50808@gmail.com> References: <51e113440701240553t53217acfna5c60db02ddeb3c8@mail.gmail.com> <45B776A8.30802@unsane.co.uk> <45B7BAFC.50808@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1F52A303-699B-4D54-A2AF-08289E92599F@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Swiger Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:09:57 -0800 To: WarrenHead X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs mount rw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:09:58 -0000 On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:01 PM, WarrenHead wrote: > I really want is the 'rw by default' bit. So that each user can > create files and get their own uid:gid accordingly. > If NIS is the answer here, I would not be surprised. Could it be? In order for NFS filesharing to work sensibly, the server and client need to share the same uid/gid information. You can manually sync the contents of /etc/group and /etc/passwd, but over the long term, setting up some form of network directory services (ie, NIS, LDAP/ OpenDirectory, etc) will make life much easier... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 20:31:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F74C16A402 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0459213C461 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0OKVrTg088727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:31:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1169670714; bh=8bkGn0+qqIQlJOq8uCI1eV9235A=; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=lQL1juKzmTYe33PVcNjiXXHGTA+GlV5y1XiRH4rmI19xH9VZoox 2mOiu8GYSVDkS5eSCruwsGo7OBvexUc92Gw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=JDAbCWIvOKevabRVnX3CiATN72pvP2S96WajRHcvnRIJFcJcW/QSSdqmq6m4FTYOZ htrpLhueBpyj1UfJ0PzKA== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id l0OKVrOO088719; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:31:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:31:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Problem with "ipfw flush" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:31:55 -0000 Hey all. In trying to tweak my firewall setup I'm using a file called /etc/ipfw.rules However, it seems even though I copy my rules perfectly to that file, the system freezes up and locks me out when I do: ipfw -f flush; ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules I've also tried doing it as ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules But to no avail. if it matters, ipfw is loaded as a kernel module, not compiled in. -Dan -- [23:49:00] LarpGM: Did my little TP comment scare you off? [23:49:22] ilzarion: no, the shrieking retarded child eating people did -Feb 06, 2001, times apparent. --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 20:56:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF70B16A408 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from public.aci.on.ca (aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEFE13C4E7 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:56:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from (invalid client hostname: host address literal does not match remote client address)[127.0.0.1] (xtreme-156-171.dyn.aci.on.ca[69.17.156.171] port=4386) by public.aci.on.ca([205.207.148.252] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (1788 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:37:51 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2006-Feb-21) Message-ID: <45B7C39E.5080605@qwirky.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:37:50 -0500 From: Jeff Royle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0706-1, 24/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Problem with "ipfw flush" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@qwirky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:56:12 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hey all. > > In trying to tweak my firewall setup I'm using a file called > /etc/ipfw.rules > > However, it seems even though I copy my rules perfectly to that file, > the system freezes up and locks me out when I do: > > ipfw -f flush; ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > I've also tried doing it as > > ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > But to no avail. > > if it matters, ipfw is loaded as a kernel module, not compiled in. > > -Dan > > -- I haven't used IPFW in a while but if I recall right IPFW has a default policy of drop. So when you flush the ruleset your pass rules are all gone. You could run the command like: ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules That should allow you flush and load your ruleset. You may also want to look into changing the default policy to accept. However this may require you to adjust your rules depending on how you wrote them. Cheers, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 20:59:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381E16A400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from public.aci.on.ca (public.aci.on.ca [205.207.148.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042D13C44C for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@qwirky.net) Received: from (invalid client hostname: host address literal does not match remote client address)[127.0.0.1] (xtreme-156-171.dyn.aci.on.ca[69.17.156.171] port=4503) by public.aci.on.ca([205.207.148.252] port=25) via TCP with esmtp (2240 bytes) (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:59:25 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.122-Pre 2005-Nov-17 #1 built 2006-Feb-21) Message-ID: <45B7C8AE.6060805@qwirky.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:59:26 -0500 From: Jeff Royle User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lists@qwirky.net References: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> <45B7C39E.5080605@qwirky.net> In-Reply-To: <45B7C39E.5080605@qwirky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0706-1, 24/01/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with "ipfw flush" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lists@qwirky.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:59:29 -0000 Jeff Royle wrote: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> Hey all. >> >> In trying to tweak my firewall setup I'm using a file called >> /etc/ipfw.rules >> >> However, it seems even though I copy my rules perfectly to that file, >> the system freezes up and locks me out when I do: >> >> ipfw -f flush; ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules >> >> I've also tried doing it as >> >> ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules >> >> But to no avail. >> >> if it matters, ipfw is loaded as a kernel module, not compiled in. >> >> -Dan >> >> -- > > I haven't used IPFW in a while but if I recall right IPFW has a default > policy of drop. So when you flush the ruleset your pass rules are all > gone. > > You could run the command like: ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > That should allow you flush and load your ruleset. You may also want > to look into changing the default policy to accept. However this may > require you to adjust your rules depending on how you wrote them. > > Cheers, > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ Opps I am sorry, I got pulled away while reading your original email, guess I didn't finish reading it. I see you are trying &&. You still may want to look into a default policy of accept for IPFW, this way its a non issue. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth! :) Cheers, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 21:10:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD3416A403 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECC613C459 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from localhost (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l0OLAdcG031157 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:06:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> <45B7C39E.5080605@qwirky.net> <45B7C8AE.6060805@qwirky.net> In-Reply-To: <45B7C8AE.6060805@qwirky.net> X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200701241606.53149.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Problem with "ipfw flush" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:10:40 -0000 On Wednesday 24 January 2007 15:59, Jeff Royle wrote: > Jeff Royle wrote: > > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > >> In trying to tweak my firewall setup I'm using a file called > >> /etc/ipfw.rules > >> > >> However, it seems even though I copy my rules perfectly to that file, > >> the system freezes up and locks me out when I do: > >> > >> ipfw -f flush; ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > >> > >> I've also tried doing it as > >> > >> ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > >> > >> But to no avail. > >> > >> if it matters, ipfw is loaded as a kernel module, not compiled in. > > > > I haven't used IPFW in a while but if I recall right IPFW has a default > > policy of drop. So when you flush the ruleset your pass rules are all > > gone. > > > > You could run the command like: ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > > > That should allow you flush and load your ruleset. You may also want > > to look into changing the default policy to accept. However this may > > require you to adjust your rules depending on how you wrote them. > > Opps I am sorry, I got pulled away while reading your original email, > guess I didn't finish reading it. I see you are trying &&. > > You still may want to look into a default policy of accept for IPFW, > this way its a non issue. Three things to remember when modifying ipfw rules remotely: 1) Make sure that you have a way to recover when you lock yourself out. Once you get the hang of it this doesn't happen very often, but it can definitely happen. 2) Put whatever rules you need to access your session at the top of your ruleset. (e.g. allow tcp from any to me 22 and allow tcp from me 22 to any) 3) Make sure to use "nohup" at the beginning of your reload command(s). It's helpful to make a script that flushes and reloads the firewall so all you have to do is "nohup reload.sh". If you use screen or the like you can get the same result. The point is to keep the system from hanging up on you and interrupting your session while you're momentarily not allowed in. Changing the default to accept would alleviate the need for some or all of the above, but I've never thought that to be a good approach in situations where I actually want a firewall. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 24 21:13:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C3C16A405 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from mx27.mail.ru (mx27.mail.ru [194.67.23.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2238D13C428 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from applecom@inbox.ru) Received: from [85.115.165.63] (port=18837 helo=xml.opera.com) by mx27.mail.ru with asmtp id 1H9pR7-000MqZ-00; Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:13:41 +0300 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:13:40 +0500 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" From: applecom@inbox.ru Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070124152310.E82156@prime.gushi.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.10 (FreeBSD) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with "ipfw flush" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:13:45 -0000 > In trying to tweak my firewall setup I'm using a file called = > /etc/ipfw.rules > > However, it seems even though I copy my rules perfectly to that file, = = > the system freezes up and locks me out when I do: > > ipfw -f flush; ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > I've also tried doing it as > > ipfw -f flush && ipfw /etc/ipfw.rules > > But to no avail. Firewall script is a common shell script. You don't need to run 'ipfw =