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Date:      Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:51:03 -0700
From:      Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
Message-ID:  <bfcb9d00-8a2c-0b01-3b4f-5bb2f268896b@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <bec7888a-b194-aea6-617d-07877854c841@marino.st>
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From: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org,
 svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Message-ID: <bfcb9d00-8a2c-0b01-3b4f-5bb2f268896b@FreeBSD.org>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile
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On 9/14/16 12:48 PM, John Marino wrote:
> On 9/14/2016 14:44, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>> On 9/14/16 12:28 PM, John Marino wrote:
>>> On 9/14/2016 14:25, Bryan Drewery wrote:
>>>> Author: bdrewery
>>>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016
>>>> New Revision: 422154
>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>>   Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base.
>>>>
>>>>   With hat:    portmgr
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Very mature and classy.
>>> I solved a problem and you're flexing muscles.
>>>
>>> Are all portmanagers on board with this?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> P.S.  If you want, I'll get into a commit war and take it back.
>>> You'll win.
>>>
>>
>> Ports need maintainers.  It is standard practice to deprecate ports
>> without a maintainer, though usually after a much longer time frame.  =
We
>> can either do this right away or let this rot for that period and wast=
e
>> time on the package build cluster.  Portmgr's who have weighed in on
>> this are in agreement that the port never should have been committing
>> and dropped like it was, and there is growing consensus that it should=

>> just be deleted.  So I've marked it deprecated.
>>
>> It's also questionable why we need this at all since it is in base
>> already and is not receiving updates.  If we had a packaged base syste=
m
>> it would perhaps make sense to have a port, but we're not there yet.  =
I
>> have not seen any valid justification for the port in the first place.=

>>
>> Also, there are no "laws" here except for the CoC.  There are only
>> conventions and guidelines, and portmgr has the ultimate say over port=
s
>> as a whole.  This clearly was committed/dropped against the spirit of
>> the conventions, regardless of any pedantic reading of any guideline.
>>
>=20
> I find it extremely doubtful you don't understand the point of the fix.=

> I'm trying to decide whether or not to start shucking off many more
> (all?) of the 70 ports that I current maintain because I really don't
> need this vindictive grief.  I thought we were past all this.
>=20
> JOhn
>=20

John,

Please take a deep breath.  This is not personal, please do not make it s=
o.

Please review https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html

"Do not make it personal. Do not take it personally."


--=20
Regards,
Bryan Drewery


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