From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 14:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DD415730 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb@acm.org) Received: (qmail 16081 invoked by uid 1001); 8 May 1999 20:40:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 06:40:55 +1000 From: Greg Black To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III References: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> of Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg Quinlan" writes: > Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) > by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00704 > for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:31:22 +0100 (BST) > Message-ID: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> > Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" > From: "Greg Quinlan" > To: > Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III > Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 > [...] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 It may be the final two lines of the headers I've shown above that explains it, but the Date header on that message is in the future, although the very first Received header appears to have the correct date. This date in the future error has been very common on posts from Greg Quinlan. It would be a trivial thing to fix it. > Who wants a piece of my humble pie? I think I may have found my problem! Please learn from this experience and recognise that the advice that people were offering, in particular the suggestions that you check your hardware, was indeed good advice and should have been followed a little earlier rather than wasting so much of people's time with the scare stories about FreeBSD. > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the > CPU fan was not running!! Since this is an obvious candidate for the problems and since it's extremely simple to check, it should have been found a little earlier. I do think this saga points to the advisability of putting a warning about checking for hardware problems (including fans) in some prominent place that might be easily seen by people who are puzzled by unexplained system failures -- it is always the first thing to check in this kind of case. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 20:12:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256751573C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02410 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:06:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <3734FBD7.CB44EA7@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:07:03 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > You can give a list of directories to be exported, but all directories for a ... > /usr \ ... > All of these directories are in the filesystem /usr, and the computer foo can > only mount /usr, /usr/source/src, /usr/obj, /usr/source/ports, and ... So what you are saying then, is that I am right in assuming that FreeBSD cannot export (in your case) anything under /usr, without /usr itself. Sorry if I sound terse, but I do realise that I can list specific dirs under a filesystem to export if I do export the entire filesystem. My issue is that I dont want to export the root of the filesystem (/, in my case) to the remote machine, just to have a directory underneath it exported. (/usr/home, in my case.) I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ For the record tho, the SYSV-ish NFSd on Linux can export individual directories however. (But has other problems too.) > On 08-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." ... > > Has this been changed in FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE? Or do I have to live with only > > being able to export whole filesystems? > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 21:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5CD14FAB for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01778 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25676 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3734FB2C.DAA448D5@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > John Baldwin wrote: >> You can give a list of directories to be exported, but all directories for a > ... >> /usr \ > ... >> All of these directories are in the filesystem /usr, and the computer foo >> can >> only mount /usr, /usr/source/src, /usr/obj, /usr/source/ports, and > ... > > So what you are saying then, is that I am right in assuming that FreeBSD > cannot > export (in your case) anything under /usr, without /usr itself. No, I just happen to export my /usr. On a server at work, I have a /usr filesystem and only export /usr/X11R6 amd /usr/local from it. You just list all the directories you want to export. :) > Sorry if I sound terse, but I do realise that I can list specific dirs under > a filesystem to export if I do export the entire filesystem. My issue is that > I dont want to export the root of the filesystem (/, in my case) to the > remote > machine, just to have a directory underneath it exported. (/usr/home, in my > case.) No problem, was just making sure. > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > For the record tho, the SYSV-ish NFSd on Linux can export individual > directories > however. (But has other problems too.) > >> On 08-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: >> > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per >> > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot >> > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > ... >> > Has this been changed in FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE? Or do I have to live with >> > only >> > being able to export whole filesystems? > >> John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net > Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 21:46:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DDF15A77 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp1569.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.249.33]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22784; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA04505; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:45:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 00:45:48 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Greg Black Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III Message-ID: <19990509004548.A3961@mad> References: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:40:55AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:40:55AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > > Who wants a piece of my humble pie? I think I may have found my problem! > > Please learn from this experience and recognise that the advice > that people were offering, in particular the suggestions that > you check your hardware, was indeed good advice and should have > been followed a little earlier rather than wasting so much of Bah. -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:17:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095C21570C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00719; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:17:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:17:56 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <3733E063.3C0132FD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > export /. > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( If you are interested in trying it: 1) disable NFS server by commenting 'nfs_server_enable="YES"' in /etc/rc.conf 2) rebuild your kernel with "options NFS_NOSERVER". 3) ask me for the hacked source (somebody could make a proper patch out of it? I am complete new to this) or try to build it yourself; the package I used is called nfs-server-2.2beta41.tar.gz 4) rewrite your exports file (see manpage from the sources); syntax is different from BSD 5) reboot with new kernel and start new versions of rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd. FreeBSD pcnfsd port seems to work with this server. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE30C14D5C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gNRB-0001a1-00; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:51:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: tetragon@cyber.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > > export /. > > > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > > I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD > (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by > several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not > supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong First of all, NFS is only designed to export filesystems. FreeBSD can indeed export selective directories in a filesystem (see manpage), and nfsd will do its best to limit access to that directory. However, clients could guess and probably access stuff outside that directory tree. NFS uses inode numbers which come right out of the filesystems. > with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, > namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but > not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories > which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write > performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel > implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full > duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using > NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). K is KB or kb? M is MB or Mb? Anyhow, what you are seeing is the difference between safe NFS and unsafe NFS. Put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe mode, and you should get similar performance. By default FreeBSD NFS will not ack a write until the write has been hit the disk. Linux NFS acks writes as soon as they are received. > Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some > directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, > or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it > seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. > Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( Probably not. You need to understand the issues. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:53:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AF2315794 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gNSa-0001fI-00; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <3734FBD7.CB44EA7@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It just needs more testing. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 0:15:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E314D10 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00418 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:18:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 10:18:07 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 May 1999, Tom wrote: > > > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > > > > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > > > > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > > > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > > > export /. > > > > > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > > > > I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD > > (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by > > several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not > > supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong > > First of all, NFS is only designed to export filesystems. FreeBSD can > indeed export selective directories in a filesystem (see manpage), and > nfsd will do its best to limit access to that directory. However, > clients could guess and probably access stuff outside that directory tree. Yes, that is my concern on this issue. I need to export /var/spool for PCNFS printing, but exporting entire /var makes everybody's mail readable by everybody from the subnet :-( > NFS uses inode numbers which come right out of the filesystems. I understand that. But in reality, NFS client does not care about true inode numbers, right? Therefore NFS server could supply fake inode numbers, just as Linux NFSD does. This will also allow transparent exporting of underlying mountpoints (e.g., if /home/group1 is mounted on separate disk, it will still be visible from NFS-mounted /home) and re-export NFS-mounted subdirectories which I also would like to have. > > with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, > > namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but > > not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories > > which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write > > performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel > > implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full > > duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using > > NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). > > K is KB or kb? M is MB or Mb? Anyhow, what you are seeing is the KB and MB. > difference between safe NFS and unsafe NFS. Put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe > mode, and you should get similar performance. By default FreeBSD NFS will > not ack a write until the write has been hit the disk. Linux NFS acks > writes as soon as they are received. I do understand that. But how do I put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe mode? I can't seem to find the reference anywhere. > > Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some > > directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, > > or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it > > seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. > > Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( > > Probably not. You need to understand the issues. Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 1:18:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BCA1551C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02965; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:18:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:19:04 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > just needs more testing. I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, good to know that v3 is being worked on and will be in there once all the issues are worked out. (Almost tempted to switch to -CURRENT, but I think I will resist that temptation.) On a side note, I have to say that the SYSV-ish NFS under Linux, though it can export on a per-directory basis, seemed to have its own quirks and problems when I used it. Its been a little while now, but I think I would prefer to live with the tested NFS under FreeBSD than try to hack in the Linux NFS. After all, thats why I run -STABLE.. > Tom -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 2:57:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5911715162 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 02:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id SAA11417; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:56:31 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:54:13 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > just needs more testing. > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default became nfsv3 instead of v2. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4: 5:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62314D32 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03240; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:00:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 21:01:57 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, > Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default Ok, so this list likes to keep me guessing. I assume then that NFSv3 cant do per-directory exporting? Or it just dosent make a difference on any version of BSD4.4? Or, I am just doing something wrong? Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A747014FF1 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19909; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:23:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:23:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199905091123.NAA19909@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ===> libc_r [...] cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- still the same problem. CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:32:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BD415054 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA13432; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:43:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199905091143.VAA13432@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable In-Reply-To: <199905091123.NAA19909@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from Oliver Fromme at "May 9, 1999 1:23:17 pm" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:43:04 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jb@cimlogic.com.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Fromme wrote: > ===> libc_r [...] > > I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object > and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- > still the same problem. > > CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. > Thanks for reporting this. I forgot to add the RELENG_3 tag to the new files. And good 'ol cvs just chose to ignore the extra files that were in the checked out RELENG_3 tagged directory. Sigh. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:51:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E2F14F10 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA33776; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:51:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:51:14 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: John Birrell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable In-Reply-To: <199905091143.VAA13432@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Birrell wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > ===> libc_r > [...] > > > > I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object > > and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- > > still the same problem. > > > > CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. > > > > Thanks for reporting this. I forgot to add the RELENG_3 tag to the new > files. And good 'ol cvs just chose to ignore the extra files that were in > the checked out RELENG_3 tagged directory. Sigh. I had a bunch of those with gdb too... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 5:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.relcom.ru (mail1.relcom.ru [193.125.153.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266714E61 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voux@iname.com) Received: from voux.pp.relcom.ru (voux.pp.relcom.ru [193.125.20.103]) by mail1.relcom.ru (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) with ESMTP id QAA26508 for ;Sun, 9 May 1999 16:34:44 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43A6541E4E; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCEA3C544 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) From: voux X-Sender: voux@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I have cvsup'ed 3.1-STABLE at may 9. Then I tryed to make buildworld and got following error when tryed to build uthread: cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Only I have this problem or anyone else ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 6: 3: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sequent.relcom.ru (sequent.relcom.ru [193.125.152.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7166714CFE for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voux@iname.com) Received: from voux.pp.relcom.ru (voux.pp.relcom.ru [193.125.20.103]) by sequent.relcom.ru (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) with ESMTP id QAA05878 for ;Sun, 9 May 1999 16:58:45 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DEC1041E4B; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6357F3C544 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) From: voux X-Sender: voux@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have cvsup'ed 3.1-STABLE at may 9. Then I tryed to make buildworld and got following error when tryed to build uthread: cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Only I have this problem or anyone else ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 6:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C1150E5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA182766749; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:29 -0400 Subject: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1870 Message-Id: <19990509133233.930C1150E5@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am still trying to make gnome on my 3-STABLE laptop. I finally traced down the compile fialure to imlib's failure to proerly compile, amnd install. It did register itself as installed even though it failed the build process :-( Now the problem with it seems to be related to gtk2, so I tried to rebuild it, but that failed in a really strange way: Script started on Sun May 9 09:23:21 1999 \n\nWARNING: YOU ARE SUPERUSER !!\n ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ make install Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd Copyright 1987-1998, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ Script done on Sun May 9 09:23:43 1999 What version of perl ist it expecting? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 7: 4:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011B914F5C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA19756; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:05:52 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda19748; Sun May 9 07:05:09 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA21109; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091401.HAA21109@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdH21105; Sun May 9 07:01:46 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) Cc: rmillian@rochester.rr.com (Rudynell Millian), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade path,... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 May 1999 02:05:47 GMT." <3730f80f.221416229@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 07:01:46 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running four machines at 3.1 and one at 2.2.8 (no time to upgrade). Of the four 3.1 machines, three are extremely stable. The fourth has had very occasional problems when under heavy VM load since upgrading to 3.1 -- e.g 3 lockups since Feb. It also happens to be the fastest (333 MHz compared to 150, 120, and 33 MHz). I just applied the patches listed in PR 8416. We'll see what happens. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <3730f80f.221416229@mail.sentex.net>, Mike Tancsa writes: > On 5 May 1999 19:04:42 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you wrote: > > >o Cvsup directly to 3.1 stable from my current 3.0 setup? > > I would say cvsup. > > >I see a lot of problems reported against 3.1. in the stable group. This > >makes me reluctant to upgrade. It seems there were fewer issues with > >2.2.8. > > Yes and no.. Remember, you are generally only going to hear about problems, > and not posts that say "Everything OK here... no problems to report". I > have a couple of 3.x machines in production, and so far I have been quite > happy with them. But going from 3.0 to STABLE should do you well, > especially if you are using well supported hardware. > > ---Mike > Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) > Sentex Communications Corp, > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 8: 7:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carabosse.oleane.net (carabosse.oleane.net [194.2.28.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D06154FB for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@titine.fr.eu.org) Received: from tom.oleane.net (smtp.dial.oleane.com [194.2.0.54]) by carabosse.oleane.net with ESMTP id RAA08542; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:07:27 +0200 Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (dyn-1-1-010.Tls.dialup.oleane.fr [194.2.21.10]) by tom.oleane.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02626; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:07:25 +0200 Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2737B195E4; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:04:56 +0200 (CEST) To: "Stan Brown" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Subject: Re: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( References: <19990509133233.930C1150E5@hub.freebsd.org> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 09 May 1999 17:04:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Stan Brown"'s message of "Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Stan Brown" writes: > ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 > $ make install > Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. > *** Error code 1 > $ perl -v > > This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd In 3.1-Stable, perl version is now 5.005_03 : % perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd -- --------------------------------------------------------- Éric Jacoboni Ŧ No sport, cigars! ŧ (W. Churchill) --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 8:55: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5BC14FB1 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA20144; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:55:55 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda20138; Sun May 9 08:55:34 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA21421; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091554.IAA21421@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpds21417; Sun May 9 08:54:26 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Eric Jacoboni Cc: "Stan Brown" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Subject: Re: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "09 May 1999 17:04:55 +0200." <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:54:26 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org>, Eric Jacoboni writes: > "Stan Brown" writes: > = > > =1B]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12=07root@brown.f= as.com:/usr/ > ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 > > $ make install > > Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. > > *** Error code 1 > = > > $ perl -v > > = > > This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd > = > In 3.1-Stable, perl version is now 5.005_03 : > = > % perl -v > This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd The quick circumvention is to change the line bsd.port.mk containing, PERL_VERSION=3D 5.00503 to PERL_VERSION=3D 5.00502 The best fix is to upgrade to the latest -stable. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=3D0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:16:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.4.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C669B14BF4 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from homer.louisville.edu (ktstev01@homer.louisville.edu [136.165.1.20]) by unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21106 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 Received: (from ktstev01@localhost) by homer.louisville.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15393 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990509121630.A14743@homer.louisville.edu> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 From: Keith Stevenson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au>; from Gavan McCormack on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:01:57PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:01:57PM +1000, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) This is from a 3.1-STABLE box: # df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 1016303 20277 914722 2% / /dev/wd0s1e 508143 1 467491 0% /home/home1 /dev/wd1s1e 1016303 7702 927297 1% /soft/soft1 /dev/wd0s1g 417119 2 383748 0% /tmp /dev/wd0s1f 2032623 404667 1465347 22% /usr /dev/wd1s1f 1016303 2193 932806 0% /var /dev/wd1s1g 1016303 137 934862 0% /var/log /dev/wd1s1h 925215 6 851192 0% /var/tmp procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/wfd0s1e 119439 5068 104816 5% /var/adm/tcheck # cd /var/adm/tcheck/ # ls -l total 7 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 26 20:58 databases drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 osaka -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3753 Mar 26 20:52 tw.config # showmount -e localhost Exports list on localhost: /var/adm/tcheck/osaka foo.example.org My analysis of this is that FreeBSD _CAN_ export subdirectories under a mount point. As for the issue of whether or not the NFS client can somehow trick the NFS server into granting access about the export point, well I don't export to hosts I don't trust. (You shouldn't with Linux either.) I ran Linux for 5 years prior to switching to FreeBSD. The hardest thing about setting up NFS under Linux is that *&%@! config file format. FreeBSD's /etc/exports format is a lot closer to the commercial *NIXs I work with. I'd recommend against reinstalling RedHat. I came from that world, and have been much happier since I made the switch. I only wish that my HPUX systems were as well-behaved as my FreeBSD boxen. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FBD14FA6 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA01779; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Keith Stevenson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <19990509121630.A14743@homer.louisville.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) > > This is from a 3.1-STABLE box: > > # df -k > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0s1a 1016303 20277 914722 2% / > /dev/wd0s1e 508143 1 467491 0% /home/home1 > /dev/wd1s1e 1016303 7702 927297 1% /soft/soft1 > /dev/wd0s1g 417119 2 383748 0% /tmp > /dev/wd0s1f 2032623 404667 1465347 22% /usr > /dev/wd1s1f 1016303 2193 932806 0% /var > /dev/wd1s1g 1016303 137 934862 0% /var/log > /dev/wd1s1h 925215 6 851192 0% /var/tmp > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > /dev/wfd0s1e 119439 5068 104816 5% /var/adm/tcheck > > # cd /var/adm/tcheck/ > # ls -l > total 7 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 bin > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 26 20:58 databases > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 osaka > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3753 Mar 26 20:52 tw.config > > # showmount -e localhost > Exports list on localhost: > /var/adm/tcheck/osaka foo.example.org And your /etc/exports file?? > My analysis of this is that FreeBSD _CAN_ export subdirectories under > a mount point. As for the issue of whether or not the NFS client can > somehow trick the NFS server into granting access about the export > point, well I don't export to hosts I don't trust. (You shouldn't > with Linux either.) Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: Invalid argument May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. > I ran Linux for 5 years prior to switching to FreeBSD. The hardest thing about > setting up NFS under Linux is that *&%@! config file format. FreeBSD's > /etc/exports format is a lot closer to the commercial *NIXs I work with. I'd > recommend against reinstalling RedHat. I came from that world, and have been > much happier since I made the switch. I only wish that my HPUX systems were > as well-behaved as my FreeBSD boxen. So far I did not reach any stage of happiness yet... Config format is rather minor issue IMHO unless you have 100-line exports file which is unlikely. All in all, right now Linux NFS looks better for me: it has more features and is much faster. This might depend on many factors, of course. If your clients are Solaris or other commercial Unixes with NFSv3, FreeBSD might be a lot better for you than Linux. In my case, it is not. The bad part about Linux NFS was that pcnfsd tends to crash from time to time (esp. when printing files over 10MB), sometimes taking also lpd with him. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:41:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6052715748 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA00834 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: NOAOUT default for -STABLE Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. Opinions? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:55: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8513157F5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:54:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA53864; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:54:47 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: "David O'Brien" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NOAOUT default for -STABLE In-Reply-To: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today David O'Brien wrote: > I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it > to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. > > Opinions? Do it please. And while your're at it, add compat22 to the COMPAT_DISTS?= line in .../release/Makefile in both STABLE and CURRENT. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 10:51:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com (dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com [24.95.40.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681EF15CB7 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowland@dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com) Received: (from rowland@localhost) by dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10044; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:49:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rowland) To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: X-Face: "<|%>c@Vfv/8}+Av1z:R5sDzf!3QVer!n\,.&+&h\k1,BHAoyw8Gp10<-SqZ<*"|!U!a#xg6ls?1,Vj$m@r?uHcfB,'i:LLgtyb;~}O8v7zZThuB`X~#IE{v*"PhI]cl/>&ys(MGa%y:6~TuHFw&~|V?!9HZ_R"<}dC5D:%igP2Q6ZJex,P0M From: Shaun Rowland Date: 09 May 1999 13:49:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Sergey Ayukov's message of "Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD)" Message-ID: <87iua2rv52.fsf@dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com> Lines: 65 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" writes: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > > > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > > > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) If I understand you correctly, yes. This is a look at my system: [rowland@dhcp9540076 rowland]$ df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 31743 20627 8577 71% / /dev/wd2s1f 1414895 596818 704886 46% /home /dev/wd0s1f 10847082 2251228 7728088 23% /usr /dev/wd0s1e 29751 4675 22696 17% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc I can export the directory /usr/local/mp3 to my laptop without exporting /usr. > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > Invalid argument > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > 255.255.255.0 > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. This is a piece of the exports man page: In a mount entry, the first field(s) specify the directory path(s) within a server filesystem that can be mounted on by the corresponding client(s). There are two forms of this specification. The first is to list all mount points as absolute directory paths separated by whites- pace. The second is to specify the pathname of the root of the filesys- tem followed by the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount at any point within the filesystem, including regular files if the -r op- tion is used on mountd. The pathnames must not have any symbolic links in them and should not have any "." or ".." components. Mount points for a filesystem may appear on multiple lines each with different sets of hosts and export options. If you use the -alldirs flag it placed after the root of a filesystem which you want to allow the client(s) to mount any directory under. Therefore, you could do: /var -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 in /etc/exports to allow clients to mount any directory under /var. If all you want to do is export /var/spool/pcnfsd, don't use -alldirs. I have a 3.1-STABLE box and I can export a directory on my /usr filesystem to my laptop across a VPN. This is my /etc/exports file: # This is for the laptop to add mp3 files to the Rio player. /usr/local/mp3 -webnfs laptop.vpn0.domain I believe I did this in 3.1-RELEASE as well. -- Shaun Rowland rowland@cis.ohio-state.edu IICF System Administrator DL798 http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~rowland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11: 5: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B37150AF for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29238; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29337; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" Subject: RE: NOAOUT default for -STABLE Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 David O'Brien wrote: > I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it > to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. > > Opinions? Yes. Before 3.2 if possible. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F68715776 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29233; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28870; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Keith Stevenson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > Invalid argument > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > 255.255.255.0 > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another exports line that contains a host from 195.208.220 --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11:13:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4415A8C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00507; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:15:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:15:33 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Keith Stevenson Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > > Invalid argument > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > > 255.255.255.0 > > > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. > > Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another exports > line that contains a host from 195.208.220 No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: # # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1 lab /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab /home -alldirs lab /tmp1 lab --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11:24:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAB314C22 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01012; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22690; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: Keith Stevenson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: >> Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another >> exports >> line that contains a host from 195.208.220 > > No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: > ># ># This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. ># It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1 lab > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab > /home -alldirs lab > /tmp1 lab Does it still give an error if you take the "-alldirs" option out of the /var/spool/pcnfs lines? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4B814CF2 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA01092; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:30:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:30:30 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another > >> exports > >> line that contains a host from 195.208.220 > > > > No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: > > > ># > ># This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. > ># It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /vol1 lab > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab > > /home -alldirs lab > > /tmp1 lab > > Does it still give an error if you take the "-alldirs" option out of the > /var/spool/pcnfs lines? Surprisingly, no. This looks quite interesting. The reason I was putting -alldirs flag is in stupid pcnfs printing which mounts directories like /var/spool/pcnfs/machine-name. The solution I have settled on is rather ugly but seems to work: /var/spool/pcnfs/fine \ /var/spool/pcnfs/fine2 \ /var/spool/pcnfs/lyambda \ /var/spool/pcnfs/solar \ /var/spool/pcnfs/universe \ /var/spool/pcnfs/silden \ /var/spool/pcnfs/rillanon /var/spool/pcnfs/practic \ /var/spool/pcnfs/prof \ /var/spool/pcnfs/spiral \ lab friends (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:47:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025AA1581D for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07308; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26970; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > Surprisingly, no. This looks quite interesting. The reason I was putting > -alldirs flag is in stupid pcnfs printing which mounts directories like > /var/spool/pcnfs/machine-name. The solution I have settled on is rather > ugly but seems to work: > > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine2 \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/lyambda \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/solar \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/universe \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/silden \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/rillanon > /var/spool/pcnfs/practic \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/prof \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/spiral \ > lab friends > > (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least > one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! Glad that it worked. Also, according to the exports(5) manpage, the -alldirs flag would have exported all of /var, which is not what you wanted: "...the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount at any point within the filesystem..." Which is not what you wanted. The best solution might be to (in the future) make /var/spool/pcnfs it's own partition and then export that with -alldirs. I looked through the mountd source very briefly but didn't see why the -alldirs option made a difference. Hmm. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:52:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38B1538A for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA01205; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:54:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:54:44 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least > > one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! > > Glad that it worked. Also, according to the exports(5) manpage, the -alldirs > flag would have exported all of /var, which is not what you wanted: > > "...the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount > at any point within the filesystem..." I wanted all directories under /var/spool/pcnfs ;-) and thought -alldirs would do exactly that if I write /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs but it seems that -alldirs wants to export entire local filesystem. > Which is not what you wanted. The best solution might be to (in the > future) make /var/spool/pcnfs it's own partition and then export that > with -alldirs. I looked through the mountd source very briefly but > didn't see why the -alldirs option made a difference. Hmm. Thank you again for help! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 13:48:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E67F014EBD for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gaUH-0004Hj-00; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:47:49 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > Tom wrote: > > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > just needs more testing. > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, > good to know that v3 is being worked on and will be in there once all the > issues are worked out. (Almost tempted to switch to -CURRENT, but I think I > will resist that temptation.) No. NFSv3 has been around since 3.0-RELEASE. > On a side note, I have to say that the SYSV-ish NFS under Linux, though it > can export on a per-directory basis, seemed to have its own quirks and > problems when I used it. Its been a little while now, but I think I would > prefer to live with the tested NFS under FreeBSD than try to hack in the > Linux NFS. After all, thats why I run -STABLE.. Beware, exporting filesystems on a per directory basis can just be an illusion. > > Tom > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net > Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Tom Systems Support Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14: 5:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF6215760 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:05:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA21052; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:06:24 -0700 Received: from da014.inetex.com(139.142.118.29), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdb21043; Sun May 9 14:06:04 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA23091; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091854.LAA23091@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdD23087; Sun May 9 11:54:14 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "Justin Wolf" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stability concerns in latest -STABLEs. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 1999 08:38:27 PDT." <003701be989f$bb6f2d00$06c3fe90@bleeding.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:54:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <003701be989f$bb6f2d00$06c3fe90@bleeding.com>, "Justin Wolf" writes: > than "It was up for a few weeks, then I came home one night and it was > sitting at the "System halted" message (that turned out to be bad memory > that for some reason, Windows liked just fine - it only crashed during > kernel compiles). Take a look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454AB15851 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA21059; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:07:04 -0700 Received: from da014.inetex.com(139.142.118.29), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda21057; Sun May 9 14:06:56 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA33676; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdL33672; Sun May 9 14:05:36 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 1999 22:07:18 +0300." <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:05:36 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov writes: > Just FYI: > > $ uname -r; uptime > 2.2.1-RELEASE > 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > (last reboot was due to ) > > $ uname -r; uptime > 3.1-STABLE > 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > (last reboot was due to system freeze) You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold some promise of fixing this. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14:37: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E3A157D7 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25801; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092131.OAA25801@implode.root.com> To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 14:05:36 PDT." <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:31:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov >writes: >> Just FYI: >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> 2.2.1-RELEASE >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 >> (last reboot was due to ) >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> 3.1-STABLE >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold >some promise of fixing this. I had problems with a couple of systems spontaneously rebooting when doing lots of disk I/O. Turned out that the 450MHz Pentium-II's in them were actually re-marked 350's. Needless to say, the problems disappeared when I put real 450's in them. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 16:37:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D41520B for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA198713042; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:22 -0400 Subject: curese foiled again, or the ongoing saga of the gnome port :-( To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 69297 Message-Id: <19990509233728.248D41520B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well the unending battle with the gnome port continuse. I think I made some progeress, but I am stuck again. The current problem is in gnumeric. Here is the build script: Script started on Sun May 9 19:25:21 1999 \n\nWARNING: YOU ARE SUPERUSER !!\n ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/math/gnumericroot@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/math/gnumeric $ make ===> Extracting for gnumeric-0.18 >> Checksum OK for gnumeric-0.18.tar.gz. ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on executable: panel - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on executable: python - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on shared library: xml.0 - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Patching for gnumeric-0.18 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gnumeric-0.18 ===> Configuring for gnumeric-0.18 creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for working aclocal... missing checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... missing checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for gnome-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config checking if /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config works... yes checking for orbit-config... /usr/local/bin/orbit-config checking for orbit-idl... /usr/local/bin/orbit-idl checking for working ORBit environment... yes checking for gnorba libraries... yes checking for gcc... cc checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for gcc... (cached) cc checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for bison... bison -y checking host system type... i386--freebsd3.2 checking build system type... i386--freebsd3.2 checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/libexec/elf/ld checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... no checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for object suffix... o checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... no checking if cc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/libexec/elf/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd3.2 ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wno-unused checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... no checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads... no checking for pthread_create in -lc_r... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... yes checking for SmcSaveYourselfDone in -lSM... yes checking for X11/SM/SMlib.h... yes checking for XpmFreeXpmImage in -lXpm... yes checking for gnome-config... (cached) /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config checking for xmlNewDoc in -lxml... yes checking for main in -lqthreads... no checking for qt_null in -lqt... no checking for main in -ltermcap... yes checking for main in -lreadline... yes checking for guile-config... yes checking whether guile-config works... yes checking for sin in -lm... yes checking for guile libraries... -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm checking for guile headers... -I/usr/local/include checking whether guile works... yes checking for working const... yes checking for inline... inline checking for off_t... yes checking for size_t... yes checking for working alloca.h... no checking for alloca... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking for getpagesize... yes checking for working mmap... yes checking for argz.h... no checking for limits.h... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking for nl_types.h... yes checking for malloc.h... no checking for string.h... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking for values.h... no checking for sys/param.h... yes checking for getcwd... yes checking for munmap... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for setlocale... yes checking for strchr... yes checking for strcasecmp... yes checking for __argz_count... no checking for __argz_stringify... no checking for __argz_next... no checking for stpcpy... no checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking whether NLS is requested... yes checking whether included gettext is requested... no checking for libintl.h... yes checking for gettext in libc... no checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... yes checking for gettext in libintl... no checking whether catgets can be used... no checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext checking for catalogs to be installed... cs de es es_DO es_GT es_HN es_MX es_PA es_PE es_SV fr hu it ja ko no pt ru pl checking for perl... true checking for perl ExtUtils::Embed module... yes checking for python... true updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating gnumeric.spec creating Makefile creating src/Makefile creating doc/Makefile creating doc/C/Makefile creating doc/es/Makefile sed: ./doc/es/Makefile.in: No such file or directory creating plugins/Makefile creating plugins/sample/Makefile creating plugins/excel/Makefile creating plugins/python/Makefile creating plugins/perl/Makefile creating plugins/perl/ext/Makefile.PL creating plugins/stat/Makefile creating plugins/guile/Makefile creating plugins/ff-csv/Makefile creating plugins/text/Makefile creating intl/Makefile creating po/Makefile.in creating macros/Makefile creating stamp.h creating config.h ===> Building for gnumeric-0.18 make all-recursive Making all in intl Making all in po Making all in macros Making all in plugins Making all in stat /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c stat.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC stat.c -o stat.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c stat.c -o stat.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libstat.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins stat.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libstat.so.0 -o .libs/libstat.so.0 stat.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libstat.so.0 libstat.so) ar cru .libs/libstat.a stat.o ranlib .libs/libstat.a creating libstat.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libstat.la libstat.la) Making all in excel cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c boot.c boot.c: In function `excel_init': boot.c:70: warning: implicit declaration of function `file_format_register_open' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-excel.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-formula.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-ole.c In file included from ms-ole.c:13: /usr/include/malloc.h:2: warning: #warning "this file includes which is deprecated, use instead" rm -f libexcel.a ar cru libexcel.a boot.o ms-excel.o ms-formula.o ms-ole.o ranlib libexcel.a Making all in ff-csv /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c csv-io.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c -fPIC -DPIC csv-io.c -o csv-io.lo In file included from csv-io.c:29: ../../src/file.h:31: warning: declaration of `open' shadows global declaration csv-io.c:173: warning: no previous prototype for `csv_read_workbook' csv-io.c: In function `csv_cleanup_plugin': csv-io.c:215: warning: passing arg 1 of `file_format_unregister_save' from incompatible pointer type csv-io.c:216: warning: control reaches end of non-void function csv-io.c: At top level: csv-io.c:226: warning: no previous prototype for `init_plugin' csv-io.c: In function `init_plugin': csv-io.c:230: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c csv-io.c -o csv-io.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libcsv.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib/gnumeric/plugins csv-io.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libcsv.so.0 -o .libs/libcsv.so.0 csv-io.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libcsv.so.0 libcsv.so) ar cru .libs/libcsv.a csv-io.o ranlib .libs/libcsv.a creating libcsv.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libcsv.la libcsv.la) Making all in text /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c text-io.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c -fPIC -DPIC text-io.c -o text-io.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c text-io.c -o text-io.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libtext.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib/gnumeric/plugins text-io.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libtext.so.0 -o .libs/libtext.so.0 text-io.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libtext.so.0 libtext.so) ar cru .libs/libtext.a text-io.o ranlib .libs/libtext.a creating libtext.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libtext.la libtext.la) Making all in python /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/sharelocale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c python.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/sharelocale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC python.c -o python.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/sharelocale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c python.c -o python.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libpython.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins -L/usr/local/lib/python1.5/config python.lo -lpython1.5 -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libpython.so.0 -o .libs/libpython.so.0 python.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libpython.so.0 libpython.so) ar cru .libs/libpython.a python.o ranlib .libs/libpython.a creating libpython.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libpython.la libpython.la) Making all in perl cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -DPIC -fpic -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -c perl.c perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e xsinit -- -o xsinit.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -DPIC -fpic -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -c xsinit.c ( cd ext ; perl Makefile.PL LIB=/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/perl/lib ) Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Writing Makefile for Gnumeric touch ext.timestamp cc -shared -o perl.so perl.o xsinit.o -Wl,-E /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -lperl -lm -lc -lcrypt -lperl Making all in guile /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c plugin.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC plugin.c -o plugin.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c plugin.c -o plugin.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libgnumguile.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins plugin.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgnumguile.so.0 -o .libs/libgnumguile.so.0 plugin.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libgnumguile.so.0 libgnumguile.so) ar cru .libs/libgnumguile.a plugin.o ranlib .libs/libgnumguile.a creating libgnumguile.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libgnumguile.la libgnumguile.la) Making all in src cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c main.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c normal-args.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c about.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cell.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cellspan.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c clipboard.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c color.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cursors.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dates.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-cell-comment.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-cell-format.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-goto-cell.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-insert-cells.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-define-names.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-delete-cells.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include 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-DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c widget-editable-label.c widget-editable-label.c: In function `el_button_press_event': widget-editable-label.c:255: warning: passing arg 2 of `gtk_widget_event' from incompatible pointer type cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c workbook.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c xml-io.c /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o gnumeric -export-dynamic main.o normal-args.o about.o cell.o cellspan.o clipboard.o color.o cursors.o dates.o dialog-cell-comment.o dialog-cell-format.o dialog-goto-cell.o dialog-insert-cells.o dialog-define-names.o dialog-delete-cells.o dialog-paste-special.o dialog-zoom.o dump.o eval.o expr.o file.o formats.o func.o fn-date.o fn-eng.o fn-financial.o fn-math.o fn-misc.o fn-sheet.o fn-stat.o fn-string.o format.o gnumeric-sheet.o gnumeric-util.o item-bar.o item-cursor.o item-debug.o item-edit.o item-grid.o number-match.o parser.o pattern-selector.o plugin.o plugin-manager.o render-ascii.o sheet.o sheet-autofill.o sheet-object.o sheet-view.o str.o style.o symbol.o utils.o widget-editable-label.o workbook.o xml-io.o ../plugins/excel/libexcel.a -Wl,-E -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E -lXpm -ljpeg -lpng -lz -ltiff -lgif -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk12 -lgdk12 -lgmodule12 -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lglib12 -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -lxml -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs creating .libs/gnumericS.c extracting global C symbols from `main.o' extracting global C symbols from `normal-args.o' extracting global C symbols from `about.o' extracting global C symbols from `cell.o' extracting global C symbols from `cellspan.o' extracting global C symbols from `clipboard.o' extracting global C symbols from `color.o' extracting global C symbols from `cursors.o' extracting global C symbols from `dates.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-cell-comment.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-cell-format.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-goto-cell.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-insert-cells.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-define-names.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-delete-cells.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-paste-special.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-zoom.o' extracting global C symbols from `dump.o' extracting global C symbols from `eval.o' extracting global C symbols from `expr.o' extracting global C symbols from `file.o' extracting global C symbols from `formats.o' extracting global C symbols from `func.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-date.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-eng.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-financial.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-math.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-misc.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-stat.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-string.o' extracting global C symbols from `format.o' extracting global C symbols from `gnumeric-sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `gnumeric-util.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-bar.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-cursor.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-debug.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-edit.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-grid.o' extracting global C symbols from `number-match.o' extracting global C symbols from `parser.o' extracting global C symbols from `pattern-selector.o' extracting global C symbols from `plugin.o' extracting global C symbols from `plugin-manager.o' extracting global C symbols from `render-ascii.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-autofill.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-object.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-view.o' extracting global C symbols from `str.o' extracting global C symbols from `style.o' extracting global C symbols from `symbol.o' extracting global C symbols from `utils.o' extracting global C symbols from `widget-editable-label.o' extracting global C symbols from `workbook.o' extracting global C symbols from `xml-io.o' extracting global C symbols from `../plugins/excel/libexcel.a' (cd .libs && cc -c -fno-builtin "gnumericS.c") cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o gnumeric .libs/gnumericS.o -Wl,--export-dynamic main.o normal-args.o about.o cell.o cellspan.o clipboard.o color.o cursors.o dates.o dialog-cell-comment.o dialog-cell-format.o dialog-goto-cell.o dialog-insert-cells.o dialog-define-names.o dialog-delete-cells.o dialog-paste-special.o dialog-zoom.o dump.o eval.o expr.o file.o formats.o func.o fn-date.o fn-eng.o fn-financial.o fn-math.o fn-misc.o fn-sheet.o fn-stat.o fn-string.o format.o gnumeric-sheet.o gnumeric-util.o item-bar.o item-cursor.o item-debug.o item-edit.o item-grid.o number-match.o parser.o pattern-selector.o plugin.o plugin-manager.o render-ascii.o sheet.o sheet-autofill.o sheet-object.o sheet-view.o str.o style.o symbol.o utils.o widget-editable-label.o workbook.o xml-io.o ../plugins/excel/libexcel.a -Wl,-E -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E -lXpm -ljpeg -lpng -lz -ltiff -lgif -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk12 -lgdk12 -lgmodule12 -lXext -lX11 -lgnome - lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lglib12 -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -lxml -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c corba-args.c orbit-idl -I`/usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config --datadir`/idl ./Gnumeric.idl cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c Gnumeric-impl.c Gnumeric-impl.c:12: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Table' Gnumeric-impl.c:12: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:15: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:15: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:18: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet' Gnumeric-impl.c:18: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:21: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:21: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:24: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric' Gnumeric-impl.c:24: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:26: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:29: parse error before `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory' Gnumeric-impl.c:29: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:31: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:31: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:46: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:49: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:50: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:53: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:56: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:62: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:65: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:72: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:77: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:78: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:81: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:84: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:90: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:92: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:93: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:96: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:99: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:105: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:111: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:116: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:120: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:124: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:151: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:153: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:155: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:157: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:159: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:167: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:169: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:170: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:172: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:174: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:175: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:177: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:178: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:179: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:180: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:187: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:189: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:190: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:191: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:193: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:194: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:195: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:196: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:197: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:199: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:200: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:201: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:202: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:209: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:211: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:212: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:227: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:229: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:230: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:231: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:233: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:235: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:236: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:237: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:238: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:239: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:241: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:242: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:243: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:244: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:246: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:248: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:249: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:250: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:251: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GenericFactory_new': Gnumeric-impl.c:285: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GenericFactory_new_args': Gnumeric-impl.c:295: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:301: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:302: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:303: `GNOME_Table' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:303: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once Gnumeric-impl.c:303: for each function it appears in.) Gnumeric-impl.c:303: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:304: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:305: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:307: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:310: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Table__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:311: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:313: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:316: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:320: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:323: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Table__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:323: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:323: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:327: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:328: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:332: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:333: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:333: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:336: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:339: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:345: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:351: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:352: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:353: `GNOME_Spreadsheet' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:353: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:354: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:355: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:357: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:360: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:361: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:363: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:366: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:370: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:373: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:373: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:373: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:378: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:387: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_get_string': Gnumeric-impl.c:392: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:397: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:398: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:402: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:403: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:403: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:406: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:409: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:415: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:421: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:422: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:423: `GNOME_Gnumeric' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:423: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:424: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:425: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:427: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:430: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:431: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:433: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:436: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:440: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:443: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:443: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:443: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:447: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:448: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:452: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:453: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:453: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:456: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:459: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:465: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:471: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:480: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_get_string': Gnumeric-impl.c:485: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:491: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:492: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:493: `GNOME_GnumericFactory' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:493: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:494: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:495: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:497: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:500: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:501: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:503: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:506: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:510: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:513: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:513: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:513: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:518: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_supports': Gnumeric-impl.c:522: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:528: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_create_object': Gnumeric-impl.c:533: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/math/gnumericroot@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/math/gnumeric $ Script done on Sun May 9 19:31:46 1999 Anyone have any clues? I have been trying to build this port for about 2 months now. Maybe I should just use kde, comercial license and all :-( -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 17:47:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D92E14CA4 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA20599; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:14 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd020596; Mon May 10 00:47:09 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29248; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:08 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199905100047.KAA29248@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: John Polstra Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Directories disappearing with CVSUP, -stable, and SOFTUPDATE In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 07 May 1999 09:01:14 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:08 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 1. Was NFS involved in any way? Nope. NFS configured in the kernel but not running on this box. > 2. Please bracket the date when it happened as tightly as possible. > I.e., definitely after XX date, but definitely before YY date. Definitely after Apr 22 12:45 (UTC+1000) (I have some flat files in the symlinked-to dir with that date - I assume the mtime gets tweaked by CVSUP?). Definitely before Apr 28 11:22 (UTC+1000) as most the dirs in the new non-symlinked tree have that (28/5) date. Judging by the timestamps, I'd say the cvsup on 28th was the culprit because the timestamps on the dirs are 5-10 minutes apart, indicating a whole buncha processing for each dir. > 3. If anybody has the log output from the offending run, that would > really help. Alas, no more :< > 4. You didn't fiddle with that symlink around that time, did you? Nope. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 20:29:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.javanet.com (mail1.javanet.com [205.219.162.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B714DEC for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from media@mail1.nai.net) Received: from [209.150.38.84] (ct-hartford-hiper2172.javanet.com [209.150.38.174]) by mail1.javanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA13947 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01be98d0$5ffba760$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: media@mail1.nai.net Subject: possible stand/install bug in 3.1-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a newbie, and I apologize if this message is inappropriate for this forum. Following the advice of the freeBSD-questions list, I installed 3.1-STABLE-1990503 in place of 3.1-RELEASE. I installed everything over again from scratch. When I installed 3.1R, I didn't try to install the src and xf86333 distributions. This time I tried, but it didn't work. I downloaded all new files from releng3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/spapshots/i386 and made new floppies. I am using a 133 Pentium w/64M RAM with no cd. I then booted from the floppies and went to install from my primary DOS partition. The installer told me "Unable to transfer the scontrib distribution from wd0s1" Trying again didn't work. It then told me the same thing for sggnu, setc, slib, sgames, sinclude, sliexec, etc. The installer then gave me the same message for all of the X-files. I checked the list of distribution files it couldn't transfer or extract against the contents of C:\FREEBSD\xf86333 and C:\FREEBSD\src and they are all there. When I tried to install these files after the fact the installer crashes. When I stand/install from root and go to load them I get: "Unable to transfer the scontrib distribution from wd0s1" I try again. It fails again. I choose "no" to not try again, it moves on to the next src file, tries, fails, I select "no" again, and boom: "B roken Pipe" I get a root prompt that's blind (I can't see what I'm typing). I type "shutdown -h now" and it shuts down. I reboot it and it seems the same. I've repeated this several times. Everytime the same thing happens. I have not attempted to modify the OS in any way, or have installed any ports or packages. So, I'm thinking this is a bug. THANX!! PEACE OUT :) MARK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 2:17:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AFC14CB4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saper@system.pl) Received: from localhost (saper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) with ESMTP id LAA25734 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:20:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:20:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marcin Cieslak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad swap partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 May 1999, Jay Nelson wrote: > Another question for the developers: what symptoms would I see if a > disk block in a swap partition were bad and no more blocks could be > remapped? (Not a developer, though :) Once I was using 3.1-R on a PC with some (few) bad blocks on IDE disks, and some sectors in swap area were also suspicious. Result: Sometimes FreeBSD just freezed (under X, mostly). It never rebooted. Also an attempt to boot a system faulty disk usually caused some-kind-of-freeze-during-zillions-of-fsck complaints. But the OS was not guilty in either case. -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 3: 7:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl (schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl [130.89.238.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722E14DEA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroen@vangelderen.org) Received: from wit395301.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.235.121]:52484 "EHLO vangelderen.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl with ESMTP id <8177-10583>; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: <3736AFE4.404A8C03@vangelderen.org> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:07:32 +0200 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga References: <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: [...] > You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > some promise of fixing this. I had the same problem on two of my systems (PII 300 and 450). In both cases the culprit was an overheated CPU, even though all the fans were running smoothly. Try running without the cover and/or measuring the temperature of your CPU. Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen - jeroen@vangelderen.org - 0xC33EDFDE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 3:38:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M12.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E048152D3 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00907 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:39:10 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:39:02 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, everybody, after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory contains all the deltas.Is this write? And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is my cvsup-file: *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org *default base=/mnt/usr *default prefix=/mnt/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_3_1 *default delete use-rel-suffix compress src-base src-bin src-contrib src-etc #src-games src-gnu src-include src-kerberosIV src-lib src-libexec src-release src-sbin src-secure src-share src-sys src-tools src-usrbin src-usrsbin *default tag=. ports-all -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target Ã80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 4:38:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CDD15451 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01790; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26763; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: RE: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 Just RELENG_3 no _1. > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 6:45:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643B214CBB for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id JAA12046; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma011201; Mon, 10 May 99 09:43:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III In-reply-to: <19990508101231.A44239@nuxi.com> To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" :) SB On Sat, 8 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 11:31:11AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the > > CPU fan was not running!! > > Another satisfied FreeBSD customer. :-) > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84903152E5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00535; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:02:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Seth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Seth wrote: : Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" I found the offending lines of code in the kernel: speed = FSPEED_LUDICROUSLY_FAST; spin_cpu_fan_till_it_smells_funny(speed); Patch is attached: 124c124 < speed = FSPEED_LUDICROUSLY_FAST; --- > speed = FSPEED_MUCH_MORE_SLOWLY; :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7:36:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tuvok.ubi.se (tuvok.ubi.se [193.14.168.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E51714BD6 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from attila.raffai@intermec.com) Received: (from mail@localhost) by tuvok.ubi.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15266 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:36:46 +0200 Received: from (astrid.ptc.ubi.se [10.1.12.130]) by tuvok.ubi.se via smap (V2.1) id xma015264; Mon, 10 May 99 16:36:41 +0200 Received: from chekov.eu.intermec.com by astrid.ptc.ubi.se with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03055; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:37:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:38:40 +0000 From: Attila Raffai X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: out of file descriptors? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupd RELENG_3 to upgrade my system running 3.0-RELEASE . Make world compiled without errors but when I tried to build a new kernel I got undefined references in syscons.o so I cvsuped RELENG_3 again and made the world once more (this time I also managed to mess up my source tree, when comparing /etc with /usr/src/etc, I think). When compiling the kernel I got the same undefined references in syscons.o as the first time. Frustrated as I was I shut down the computer for that day. Now, when I boot the machine it probes the hardware and then says ":. out of file descriptors" and asks me for the shell I would like to use in single user mode. When I press return for /bin/sh I get "source not found" printed before getting the prompt. The only partition mounted is my root partition. I can still mount the other partitions manually and everything looks intact. Can someone tell me what's wrong and what to do next? Thanks, Attila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7:52:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FB0B1562B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 585 invoked by uid 1000); 10 May 1999 14:52:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:51 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: Attila Raffai Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: out of file descriptors? Message-ID: <19990510105251.A543@palomine.net> References: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com>; from Attila Raffai on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:38:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:38:40PM +0000, Attila Raffai wrote: > I cvsupd RELENG_3 to upgrade my system running > 3.0-RELEASE . > Make world compiled without errors but when I tried > to build a new kernel I got undefined references in syscons.o > so I cvsuped RELENG_3 again and made the world once > more (this time I also managed to mess up my source tree, > when comparing /etc with /usr/src/etc, I think). > When compiling the kernel I got the same undefined references > in syscons.o as the first time. Read /usr/src/UPDATING, paying particular attention to the part that refers you to http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt. The best thing to do would be to create a new kernel config file from scratch based on GENERIC and LINT. > Frustrated as I was I shut down the computer for that day. > Now, when I boot the machine it probes > the hardware and then says ":. out of file descriptors" You have /etc/rc.conf sourcing itself. Look at the bottom of the file and find where it's sourcing itself, and change it. Chris > and asks me for the shell I would like to use in single user mode. > When I press return for /bin/sh I get "source not found" > printed before getting the prompt. > The only partition mounted is my root partition. > I can still mount the other partitions manually and everything looks > intact. > > Can someone tell me what's wrong and what to do next? > > Thanks, > Attila > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8: 2:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 769E614E00 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mal@algonet.se) Received: (qmail 21064 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 Received: (mal@localhost) by kairos.algonet.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.12) id RAA03718; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199905101502.RAA03718@kairos.algonet.se> X-Authentication-Warning: kairos.algonet.se: mal set sender to mal@kairos.algonet.se using -f From: Mats Lofkvist To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (owner-freebsd-stable-digest@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. Linux NFS isn't perfect either; two Sun's (Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6 respectively) mounting filesystems from a Linux NFS server at work have continous problems with files randomly being unreadable. Upgrading the Linux server from RedHat something based on 2.0.36 to Debian something based on 2.2.6 didn't seem to make any difference. _ Mats Lofkvist mal@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8: 7:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.cybervillage.com (www.cybervillage.com [208.13.245.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0A8114F28 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@netdesign1.com) Received: from eric.netdesign1.com (eric.netdesign1.com [208.13.245.47]) by www.netdesign1.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/7.aasz) with ESMTP id ya050334 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:58:25 -0400 Message-ID: <002501be9af7$0c93b940$2ff50dd0@eric.netdesign1.com> From: "Eric Griff" To: Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:09:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hehe, You know, My mom just got a computer, with a AMD K6-2 400Mhz, with Win98 with the same effects (random reboots) as well as GPF's and tons of illegal operations.. Initially reconfiguring the board to 300Mhz fixed it.. On further inspection, it turns out that Window's 98 dried up all the heat sink compound on the CPU Fan->CPU Connection.. It dried it so well, that it looked like there was none on it.. So FreeBSD isn't the only hot OS, hehe. =) Eric -----Original Message----- From: Seth To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Greg Quinlan ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III >Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" > >:) > >SB > >On Sat, 8 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > >> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 11:31:11AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: >> > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the >> > CPU fan was not running!! >> >> Another satisfied FreeBSD customer. :-) >> >> -- >> -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:10:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Homer.Web-Ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1614F28 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by Homer.Web-Ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA59825 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Homer.Web-Ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: scsi timeouts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am wondering if any other Buslogic BT-948 users out there are experiencing this problem. On a Dual P2 machine running up to 3.0-SNAP i had my workstations running perfect (Dual pentium at home, same card and 6 gig quantum scsi) Upon installing 3.0-RELEASE, i started to get scsi timeouts on both boxes, a la: Homer.Web-Ex.com kernel log messages: > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5544b40 - timed out > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5544b40 - timed out > bt0: No longer in timeout > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5542f80 - timed out > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5542f80 - timed out > bt0: No longer in timeout > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 I initially contacted the developers to report a bug, which they acknowledged the 'flakiness' of the buslogic driver, and urged me to upgrade to a post 3.0-RELEASE SNAP, which I did, and kept upgrading to 3.1-RELEASE, with no resolution to the problem. The timeouts can last up to 30 seconds, freezing the machines console and Xwindows, but queueing up all kbd and mouse inputs. I am wondering since the developers acknowledged this back in (October?) if anyone has a solution for it. Thanks. Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:12: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D771158A9 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA34301 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:12:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:11:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with CD-ROM not found!!! He has tried everything including booting from floppies! Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! :) Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do not have any 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:32:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.v-wave.com (area51.v-wave.com [24.108.26.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3726A1511E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwasser@v-wave.com) Received: (qmail 24579 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 1999 15:32:42 -0000 From: cwasser@v-wave.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:32:42 -0600 (MDT) To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > I have a ASUS 40x ATAPI cdrom in my machine, here's my output: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 0 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked I didn't do anything special either, just plugged 'er in and away she went. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:43:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F2515868 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA36428 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:43:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <012c01be9afb$d1792980$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:43:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well further to this; he's got a 24x .... same cable, same config.....(primary on the second ide controller) No problem! Works like a charm! I will get some more details... on the CD-ROM manufacturer.... This guy is no dill... he's been working with PC's since they were made from stone....or bronze or something :) (poor guy ... it is very ... very earily in the morning.... he's done an all-night-er) -----Original Message----- From: cwasser@v-wave.com To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 10 May 1999 16:32 Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > I have a ASUS 40x ATAPI cdrom in my machine, here's my output: > >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa >wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy >acd0: drive speed 0 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache >acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA >acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels >acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > > I didn't do anything special either, just plugged 'er in and away she >went. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:12:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC0BE14C9C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 12256 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 1999 16:12:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > :) > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do not have any > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! The only time I've encountered that I had the CD connected as the slave with no master - which is an illegal configuration. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:29: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clearsail.net (mail.clearsail.net [207.252.227.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1281535D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@clearsail.net) Received: from capitan (capitan.clearsail.net [208.247.217.194]) by mail.clearsail.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05372; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jason Cropper" To: "Greg Quinlan" , Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01be9b01$858f82c0$c2d9f7d0@capitan.clearsail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 other servers and they are fine. Jason Cropper CTO ClearSail Communications Houston, TX USA > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > > > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > :) > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do > not have any > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! > > > Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:33: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [142.154.7.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCE51535D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00213; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:32:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: Jason Cropper Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <000f01be9b01$858f82c0$c2d9f7d0@capitan.clearsail.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried making it the slave and putting a drive on the master? On Mon, 10 May 1999, Jason Cropper wrote: > We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to > install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it > our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER > to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. > We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 > other servers and they are fine. > > Jason Cropper > CTO > ClearSail Communications > Houston, TX USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > > > > > > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > > CD-ROM not found!!! > > > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > > :) > > > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do > > not have any > > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > melange@yip.org - Napalm: Cures what ails ya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:57:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C692B1561A for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA52882; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:56:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:56:20 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mats Lofkvist Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <199905101502.RAA03718@kairos.algonet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mats Lofkvist wrote: > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > Linux NFS isn't perfect either; two Sun's (Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6 > respectively) mounting filesystems from a Linux NFS server at work > have continous problems with files randomly being unreadable. > Upgrading the Linux server from RedHat something based on 2.0.36 > to Debian something based on 2.2.6 didn't seem to make any difference. Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: All of the procedures in the NFS protocol are assumed to be synchronous. When a procedure returns to the client, the client can assume that the operation has completed and any data associated with the request is now on stable storage. For example, a client WRITE request may cause the server to update data blocks, filesystem information blocks (such as indirect blocks), and file attribute information (size and modify times). When the WRITE returns to the client, it can assume that the write is safe, even in case of a server crash, and it can discard the data written. This is a very important part of the statelessness of the server. If the server waited to flush data from remote requests, the client would have to save those requests so that it could resend them in case of a server crash. The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on risks data loss. Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD clients... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drtboi.lanminds.com (drtboi.lanminds.com [207.33.49.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7014C21 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drtboi@lmi.net) Received: by drtboi.lanminds.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C18938306; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:38 +0000 (GMT) Content-Length: 1345 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:37 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: todd@lmi.net Organization: LMI.net From: Todd Meister To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: RE: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Perhaps this has been answered. Your tag is wrong. Should be: *default tag=RELENG_3 Check out: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html#CVSUP It shows the valid tags, and warns against using the wrong one. Didn't stop me from doing it once, though. -Todd On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-base > src-bin > src-contrib > src-etc >#src-games > src-gnu > src-include > src-kerberosIV > src-lib > src-libexec > src-release > src-sbin > src-secure > src-share > src-sys > src-tools > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > > > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:56:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509214E4E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA41671 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:56:51 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <016701be9b0e$6a497900$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:56:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK! This is his (mike's) solution! 40 x CD-ROM setup in the BIOS to AUTO and as the primary drive for the second ide controller. He also made sure the drive was set as master. Works fine! (Now that the installation has already been done using the 32x.) But he is still unsure whether the drive will work for the original 3.1-R installation. Poor guy spent atleast 1 hour talking to me (in the UK) from Australia via my mobile at 4.00am his time! And just wanted to go home!! -----Original Message----- From: Bob K To: Jason Cropper Cc: Greg Quinlan ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 10 May 1999 17:33 Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! >Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried making it the slave and putting a >drive on the master? > >On Mon, 10 May 1999, Jason Cropper wrote: > >> We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to >> install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it >> our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER >> to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. >> We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 >> other servers and they are fine. >> >> Jason Cropper >> CTO >> ClearSail Communications >> Houston, TX USA >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan >> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 >> > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! >> > >> > >> > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install >> > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: >> > >> > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" >> > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation >> > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with >> > CD-ROM not found!!! >> > >> > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! >> > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! >> > :) >> > >> > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do >> > not have any >> > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! >> > >> > >> > Greg >> > >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >melange@yip.org - Napalm: Cures what ails ya > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:59:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EEF150BE for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA05561; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:01:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:01:11 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: Mats Lofkvist , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: [skipped] > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > risks data loss. I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, with rsize and wsize of 8192. NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments speed Read Write FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 Linux 10 1020 800 ! Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by both local read and remote write. > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > clients... I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11: 7:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F6115B4B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA53417; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:06:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:06:30 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: Mats Lofkvist , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). > > Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see > anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get > reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients are writing. > > > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: > > [skipped] > > > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > > risks data loss. > > I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, > with rsize and wsize of 8192. > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > speed Read Write > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while > 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant > performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the > information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read > apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. > FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring > problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by > both local read and remote write. Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to be better than this. > > > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > > clients... > > I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While > performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very > fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. > Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on > writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M10.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41115B8D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00523 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:20:29 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3737235D.A4B782DA@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:20:14 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank U. guys, it works. One more question: Should I make aaou-to-elf before the "make world", etc. Any tips? John Baldwin wrote: > On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > > Hello, everybody, > > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > > my cvsup-file: > > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/mnt/usr > > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > > *default release=cvs > > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > > Just RELENG_3 no _1. > > > -- > > Andy V. Oleynik > > (When U aim for perfection, > > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > --- > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target ö80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0377E14ED1 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA05676; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:41:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:41:46 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > > > > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). > > > > Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see > > anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get > > reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > are writing. Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is another question. > > > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > > > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: > > > > [skipped] > > > > > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > > > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > > > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > > > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > > > risks data loss. > > > > I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, > > with rsize and wsize of 8192. > > > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > > speed Read Write > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > > > 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while > > 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant > > performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the > > information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read > > apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. > > FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring > > problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by > > both local read and remote write. > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > be better than this. Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip > > > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > > > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > > > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > > > clients... > > > > I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While > > performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very > > fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. > > Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on > > writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:10:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84BA15AF0 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA54012; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:43 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > > are writing. > > Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less > reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about > ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was > thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write > caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is > impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write > caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is > another question. The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > > be better than this. > > Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of the samba source code). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:12:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCB11594C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA25437; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:13:24 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25435; Mon May 10 12:13:18 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA34150; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905101912.MAA34150@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdm28371; Mon May 10 12:11:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 17:47:57 EDT." <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:11:28 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writes: > At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov > >writes: > >> Just FYI: > >> > >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> 2.2.1-RELEASE > >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > >> (last reboot was due to ) > >> > >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> 3.1-STABLE > >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > > > >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > >some promise of fixing this. > > Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on > one of my systems... > > e.g. > find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > > will lock a 3.x box solid. > > ---Mike > ********************************************************************** > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:20:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CB714E37 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:20:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19431; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:19:33 -0400 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Mike Tancsa Subject: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905101912.MAA34150@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects preventing it from being committed ? ---Mike >In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike >Tancsa writes: >> At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >> > >> >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov >> >writes: >> >> Just FYI: >> >> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> >> 2.2.1-RELEASE >> >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 >> >> (last reboot was due to ) >> >> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> >> 3.1-STABLE >> >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 >> >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) >> > >> >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur >> >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R >> >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, >> >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a >> >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running >> >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and >> >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is >> >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold >> >some promise of fixing this. >> >> Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on >> one of my systems... >> >> e.g. >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & >> >> will lock a 3.x box solid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:46:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.firecracker.com (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D742C1569B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Received: from opscntr.dbq.mwci.net (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by boom.firecracker.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00378 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" X-Sender: jbutt@boom.firecracker.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? If you would you *PLEASE* let me know as I am about to start ripping into the code further to find the problem...(and from what I can tell from the code I do not have a config problem but more it is just broken) Thank You.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Butt 'J.D.' jbutt@mwci.net - jbutt@firecracker.com MidWest Communications, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:52:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610FA152A4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00818; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905101950.MAA00818@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:56 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:50:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. > > I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able > to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? > > If you would you *PLEASE* let me know as I am about to start ripping into > the code further to find the problem...(and from what I can tell from the > code I do not have a config problem but more it is just broken) You have a config problem; it works just fine. At a guess, I'd say you have forgotten to set the flags on your desired serial console device. You may also have forgotten to put -P in /boot.config, and you might have forgotten to turn on the getty in /etc/ttys. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:57: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFA815E7C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA28780; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510155612.01a7a100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:56:12 -0400 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able >to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? Cant help you in 3.x, but I do use it regularly in 2.2.x... If it helps, I can dig up the config I have on the two ends for that. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:58:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEA0915BE7 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gwBt-0001lz-00; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, James D. Butt 'J.D' wrote: > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. I saw your old e-mail. It seems that your configuring the serial console the very old way. You don't need to recompile either the kernel or the boot blocks, as both support it by default now. You basically just need to put the correct flags into /boot.config and start a getty and you are done. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305F514BF5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05915; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it within a few hours. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > preventing it from being committed ? > > ---Mike > > > >In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike > >Tancsa writes: > >> At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >> > > >> >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov > >> >writes: > >> >> Just FYI: > >> >> > >> >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> >> 2.2.1-RELEASE > >> >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > >> >> (last reboot was due to ) > >> >> > >> >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> >> 3.1-STABLE > >> >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > >> >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > >> > > >> >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > >> >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > >> >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > >> >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > >> >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > >> >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > >> >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > >> >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > >> >some promise of fixing this. > >> > >> Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on > >> one of my systems... > >> > >> e.g. > >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > >> > >> will lock a 3.x box solid. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:22: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.firecracker.com (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8833215832 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Received: from opscntr.dbq.mwci.net (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by boom.firecracker.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02181; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" X-Sender: jbutt@boom.firecracker.com To: mike@smith.net.au, Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. > > I saw your old e-mail. It seems that your configuring the serial > console the very old way. You don't need to recompile either the kernel > or the boot blocks, as both support it by default now. You basically just > need to put the correct flags into /boot.config and start a getty and you > are done. If the cause is some simple config issue I am very sorrt for wasting peoples time but I am not preceiving it as that because I have even had other people here look at this (as a sanity check) and we can still not get it work work) Thank You in advance.. /boot.config contains -D -h (though I have tried -P but I can not use it because the paticular bios I have does not support booting without a keyboard ..grr..) My kernel config file device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 Snipit from ttys.. console "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure the above line was added by installing the comconsole port.. # #cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure I can get a login to spawn if I uncomment the above line.. In all past 2.2.x releases I was able to use ttyd0 instead of cuaa0?? Seems strange but hey... When the boot loader loads I am able to use the serial console to set options ect.. but when it loads the kernel for what ever reason it reverts back to the vga... (But I will eventually get the console prompt) Am I incorrect to assume that the old FORCE_COMCONSOLE back in 2.2.x releases would not show anything on VGA but the boot loader and the the login prompt (aka the output of device probes ect are sent to the serial port (and most importantly when a boot fails because of file system problems you can fsck the drives manualy) is not how the current serial console works?? I have set this up a ton of times with 2.2.x releases... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Butt 'J.D.' jbutt@mwci.net - jbutt@firecracker.com MidWest Communications, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:28: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satty.npi.msu.su (satty.npi.msu.su [158.250.20.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08114DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@zippy.machaon.ru) Received: from zippy.machaon.ru (ws-134.machaon.ru [195.230.75.134] (may be forged)) by satty.npi.msu.su (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16292; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:49 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Khrustalev To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > Another thing to try is to turn off write gathering - it can interact poorly with clients that write one block at a time instead of having multiple outstanding writes. You can check if write gathering is being effective using nfsstat, look for Opsaved number. The knob is vfs.nfs.gatherdelay, set it to 0. -Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED6314DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01059; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905102028.NAA01059@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > /boot.config contains > > -D -h > > (though I have tried -P but I can not use it because the paticular bios I > have does not support booting without a keyboard ..grr..) Get a new board. 8) > My kernel config file > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 That should be 0x10. The 'force' flag only exists to allow you to select between multiple candidate devices. > #cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > I can get a login to spawn if I uncomment the above line.. In all past > 2.2.x releases I was able to use ttyd0 instead of cuaa0?? Seems strange > but hey... We use ttyd0 on the freebsd.org cluster. It Just Works. freefall:~>grep ttyd0 /etc/ttys ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EBC14DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA07804; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510163104.01a7b100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:31:04 -0400 To: Cliff Skolnick From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:17 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > >It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready >to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it >within a few hours. You mean, find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & does not lock up your system right away ? I can do it on a number of my 3.x systems here and it locks them right away. I never had to wait a few hours for it to happen. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Fri May 7 06:54:06 EDT 1999 for example dies within seconds. Or do you mean you are running with the patche as opposed to without ? ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DFA15AAA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06181; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, James D. Butt 'J.D' wrote: > My kernel config file > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 my flags are 0x30, and it is working :) I have the console line in /etc/ttys "off" and ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:37:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E5115DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06218; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510163104.01a7b100@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had been finding my system in deadlock (kernel running, responding to pings, but unable to do any user level stuff). My system was swapping, but not a hell of a lot, and doing a bunch of file access. It looked like a disk or a vm thing, and the PR sounded like it fit. So I applied the patch and it has seemed to help. It's only been a few days, so I'm not willing to say it has been fixed 100%. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 01:17 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > > >It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready > >to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it > >within a few hours. > > You mean, > > find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & > find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & > > does not lock up your system right away ? I can do it on a number of my > 3.x systems here and it locks them right away. I never had to wait a few > hours for it to happen. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Fri May 7 06:54:06 EDT 1999 > for example dies within seconds. Or do you mean you are running with the > patche as opposed to without ? > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 14: 5:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6BE1561A for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@gil.net) Received: from gil.net ([216.76.208.137]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06559; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37374A0D.9F95E72D@gil.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:05:18 -0400 From: Chris Holden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andyo@prime.net.ua Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine? References: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yep. you just cvsupped to 3, by using the RELENG_3 tag. as for using these ports, you should look in to the "upgrade" pacakge which will allow you to use the 2.x os with the 3.x ports. the location of these ports will be in /usr/ports. -Otter áÎÄŌÅĘ ũ. ïĖÅĘÎÉË (Andy V. Oleynik) wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-base > src-bin > src-contrib > src-etc > #src-games > src-gnu > src-include > src-kerberosIV > src-lib > src-libexec > src-release > src-sbin > src-secure > src-share > src-sys > src-tools > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 14:11:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ED114CFF; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA25974; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:48 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25972; Mon May 10 14:12:33 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA50817; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905102111.OAA50817@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdt50811; Mon May 10 14:11:03 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, julian@freebsd.org, dillon@freebsd.org, luoqi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 15:19:33 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:03 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writ es: > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > preventing it from being committed ? > > ---Mike > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c does have the fix, however it relies on macros that only exist in -current. Not being a FreeBSD kernel wizard, I can only guess that the version of the fix in PR 8416 may cause other problems or it might just be that version 1.24 of kern_lock.c is simply a more elegant solution. If it is the latter, then temporarily committing the PR 8416 version into -stable might provide some relief until a more permanent solution based on version 1.24 can be engineered into -stable. Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c only fixes read()/mmap() deadlocks. Write()/mmap() deadlocks still have the potential of hanging the system, which may answer why the solution hasn't been MFC'd yet, as it's only a partial solution. [IMO a partial solution is better than nothing, but then again I'm not a FreeBSD kernel wizard.] Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 17:51:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE43B15286 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20970 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:51:21 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199905110051.VAA20970@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: fingerd new "feature" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:51:21 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Since my last upgrade on a 3.1-stable system, I'm receiving these errors: May 10 21:45:45 krakatoa inetd[183]: /usr/libexec/fingerd[11913]: exit status 0x100 My inetd is configured this way: finger stream tcp nowait/3/10 nobody /usr/libexec/fingerd fingerd -s What's the problem ? Is the new inetd too paranoid ? Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Enginner jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 17:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BDC14C89; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00869; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <199905102111.OAA50817@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out how to trace a specific process. :( Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until *I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday rolls around and poof - locked up. I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take a look at this. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike > Tancsa writ > es: > > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > > preventing it from being committed ? > > > > ---Mike > > > > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c does have the fix, however it relies on > macros that only exist in -current. Not being a FreeBSD kernel > wizard, I can only guess that the version of the fix in PR 8416 may > cause other problems or it might just be that version 1.24 of > kern_lock.c is simply a more elegant solution. If it is the > latter, then temporarily committing the PR 8416 version into > -stable might provide some relief until a more permanent solution > based on version 1.24 can be engineered into -stable. > > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c only fixes read()/mmap() deadlocks. > Write()/mmap() deadlocks still have the potential of hanging the > system, which may answer why the solution hasn't been MFC'd yet, as > it's only a partial solution. [IMO a partial solution is better > than nothing, but then again I'm not a FreeBSD kernel wizard.] > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Province of BC > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:11:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55015510 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz ([209.110.239.105]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id SAA00890 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: Subject: Booting 3.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9b4a$e3a1ceb0$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. I boot off the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I hit F3 to get FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any ideas on how to proceed? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:20:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBBB15EDC; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00175; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. > >I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a >bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and >doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out >how to trace a specific process. :( > >Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it >too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until >*I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, >and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took >the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday >rolls around and poof - locked up. > >I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take >a look at this. There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D962B14F6F for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05625; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25723; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3737235D.A4B782DA@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Thank U. guys, > it works. > One more question: > Should I make aaou-to-elf before > the "make world", etc. Any tips? > John Baldwin wrote: I think it is more like this: make upgrade disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 # install new bootblocks merge in changes to /etc (lots of these!) reboot make world (or buildworld/installworld) edit your kernel config (probably just want to start from scratch with new GENERIC) make new kernel and install reboot install new X (either as package or via /usr/ports) reinstall ports reboot if ports require it... Hope this helps. Read the Makefile in /usr/src as well as /usr/src/UPDATING for additional hints. HTH. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:27: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC9414C39; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01303; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: David Greenman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using the later patch, the one patching kern_lock.c. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > > > >After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. > > > >I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a > >bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and > >doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out > >how to trace a specific process. :( > > > >Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it > >too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until > >*I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, > >and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took > >the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday > >rolls around and poof - locked up. > > > >I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take > >a look at this. > > There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 20: 9:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.pdq.net (alice.pdq.net [204.145.251.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6F81522E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-178.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.178-7] by pocahontas.pdq.net; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be9b5c$21d8b7a0$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: Subject: watchdog timeout Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:12:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When copying files from my unix server to my win 98 machine (ftp and = smb) I often get very slow transfer rates followed by 'xl0: watchdog = timeout' on my freebsd terminal. Does anyone know what this means or = how I can fix it? ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When copying files from my unix server = to my win 98=20 machine (ftp and smb)  I often get very slow transfer rates = followed=20 by 'xl0: watchdog timeout' on my freebsd terminal.  Does anyone = know what=20 this means or how I can fix it?
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 20:36: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85E1513A; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA27175; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:36:59 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda27173; Mon May 10 20:36:47 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA11597; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110335.UAA11597@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdz11592; Mon May 10 20:35:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: dg@root.com Cc: Cliff Skolnick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 PDT." <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:29 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman writes: > > There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? The later patch. The former patch is already in -stable vm_fault.c,v 1.93.2.2 and in -current 1.100. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.yore.net (www.yore.net [38.193.45.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59A71590D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Received: from bagby1 ([38.193.45.50]) by www.yore.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18580 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:01:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Message-ID: <007801be9b73$d4315620$322dc126@bagby1> From: "Ray Bagby" To: Subject: su suddenly-upchucks Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:02:08 -0500 Organization: yore.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, Running 2.8.8 for about 5 months and have been very happy with it. = Suddenly, about 3 days ago, trying to run "su" returned a segmentation = error and a signal 11. I though maybe the executable had an accident so I restored from the = epoch dump but that did not clear up the problem. Any ideas? Thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
    Running 2.8.8 for about 5 months = and have=20 been very happy with it. Suddenly, about 3 days ago, trying to run "su"=20 returned a segmentation error and a signal 11.
    I though maybe the executable had = an=20 accident so I restored from the epoch dump but that did not clear up the = problem.
    Any ideas?
 
    = Thanks!
------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 2:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fep7.mail.ozemail.net (fep7.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2FF158E4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au) Received: from atlas.newcastle.edu.au (slnew54p12.ozemail.com.au [203.108.151.28]) by fep7.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA14048; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:02:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3737C803.4364028A@atlas.newcastle.edu.au> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:02:43 +1000 From: obituary X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Griff Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III References: <002501be9af7$0c93b940$2ff50dd0@eric.netdesign1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric Griff wrote: > It dried it so well, that it looked like there was none on it.. > So FreeBSD isn't the only hot OS, hehe. FreeBSD is hardly a "hot" OS compared to Windows 98. FreeBSD, Linux, and other OSs that expect the system to be running stable 24/7 use the HLT instruction on x86 CPUs to save power and keep the processor cool. This is only possible in Windows 98 by using a 3rd party utility like "Rain". I run a Celeron 300A overclocked to 464MHz (also running at 2.4V) and as you can imagine, keeping the processor as cool as possible is a high priority! If you're running Windows 98 and running into overheating problems, I *highly* recommend you use Rain (or something similar) to assist with stability. > Eric -jake (obituary) c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au -- Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 7 16:36:14 EST 1999 root@carcass.death.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/CARCASS i386 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90AD1599E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id PAA20679; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:29:58 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Schmitt Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 References: <000001be9b4a$e3a1ceb0$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Schmitt wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. I boot off > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I hit F3 to get > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any ideas on how to > proceed? Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the slightest clue on what is freezing. Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the one piece of information omitted. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 4: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DA515921 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:04:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id PAA20696; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3737B398.EFE2ECF4@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:36 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: "(Andy V. Oleynik)" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > > I think it is more like this: > (read /usr/src/UPDATING, Release Notes and Errata) > make upgrade But make sure you have enough disk space before doing it. It takes twice the space of a normal world, which is already bigger than your 2.2.5 world. > disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 # install new bootblocks Not needed (done in upgrade) > merge in changes to /etc (lots of these!) Install mergemaster port and use it. *DO NOT* copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf over /etc/rc.conf. > reboot > make world (or buildworld/installworld) not needed. Make upgrade will make world twice already, no need for one more... :-) > edit your kernel config (probably just want to start from scratch with new > GENERIC) Starting from the scratch is better. The upgrade target will give you a so-so kernel configuration file. > make new kernel and install > reboot A reboot with a new world, a new /etc, and *not* a new kernel is definitely not warranted. But the upgrade target goes through the process of creating a new kernel. If it does not, do not reboot up there. (Follow the upgrade instructions, generally speaking) > install new X (either as package or via /usr/ports) > reinstall ports > reboot if ports require it... Yup. Not needed, but will save you a lot of trouble. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23:16:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14A515C6E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz (ali-ca20-17.ix.netcom.com [209.110.228.209]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id XAA14885; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:12:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-reply-to: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing else. Pentium 233MMX, Tyan motherboard, 64mb RAM, single IDE hard disk partitioned for DOS, Solaris for Intel, and FreeBSD. Intel EtherExpress Pro & DEC PCI network cards. Mach64 video. IDE CD ROM. I'll make a note of the chipset when I get access to the machine next. As a test, we pulled out all the adapter cards except the video card, and disconnected the CD ROM. Same result. Let me know what else to provide -- this is a mystery to me as well, as I've installed BSD on several quite similar systems (Tyan motherboards, etc.) and they've worked fine. Thanks in advance! Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel C. Sobral [mailto:dcs@newsguy.com] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:30 PM > To: Mike Schmitt > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 > > > Mike Schmitt wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. > I boot off > > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I > hit F3 to get > > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any > ideas on how to > > proceed? > > Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and > quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a > many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the > slightest clue on what is freezing. > > Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. > Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, > everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the > one piece of information omitted. > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his > predictions have come true yet." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 0:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgrd.orion.no (postkontor.orion.no [194.143.1.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280B914C9A for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@orion.no) Received: from postkontor.orion.no (unverified [62.92.20.132]) by mailgrd.orion.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:52 +0200 Received: from foobar.orion.no by postkontor.orion.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id J865MXTR; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:19 +0200 X-Mailer: 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.67 under 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) From: "Raymond Wiker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <14135.57670.216107.982103@foobar.orion.no> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:30 +0200 (CEST) To: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 In-Reply-To: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> References: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Schmitt writes: > Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 > ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing > else. Do you have a large hard disk, with the FreeBSD root partition outside the first 1024 (logical) disk cylinders? If so, then that is quite likely to be the reason. Possible solutions include reformatting the disk using a different logical geometry, or shuffling the disk partitions so that all data necessary for booting are within the first 1024 logical cylinders. //Raymond. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 0:53:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC4114F8C for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03258 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:01:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <3737E3D2.2CB44D2@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:01:23 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: makefile.upgrade vs makefile in 3.1 sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, everybody, once I've cvsupped RELENG_3, I've discovered that there is makefile.upgrade in the src directory. After quick look through it I assumed that it would be better to " make -f makefile.upgrade world". Am I right? -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 1: 0: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCC31599E for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03276 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:08:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <3737E560.ED99BF5D@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:08:01 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: makefile.upgrade vs makefile in 3.1 sources References: <3737E3D2.2CB44D2@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Question cancelled: makefile's target "upgrade" get in the makefile.upgrade. Sorrey :) "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > Hi, everybody, > once I've cvsupped RELENG_3, I've discovered that there is > makefile.upgrade > in the src directory. After quick look through it I assumed that it > would be > better to " make -f makefile.upgrade world". Am I right? > > -- > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 4:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C415DF5 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24584; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03878; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3737B398.EFE2ECF4@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, (Andy V. Oleynik) , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-May-99 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> make world (or buildworld/installworld) > > not needed. Make upgrade will make world twice already, no need for > one more... :-) Ahh.. I actually did this before upgade existed and had to manually do all the steps I listed. Thanks for the corrections. :) --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 6:47:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3D314C8B; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA29762; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:46:41 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... looks fixed! Cc: luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com In-Reply-To: <199905110335.UAA11597@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman >writes: >> >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD rocks! ;-) ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 6:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761515982 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00621 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:51:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01ca01be9bb5$49ab46e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: SMC 8416BT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:22:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know this is not really the place to ask this question: But do the SMC - 8416BT networks work with 3.1-Stable? If so which driver name (ed?) Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 7: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2515127 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA07417; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:00:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:00:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMC 8416BT In-Reply-To: <01ca01be9bb5$49ab46e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I know this is not really the place to ask this question: > > But do the SMC - 8416BT networks work with 3.1-Stable? > If so which driver name (ed?) Well .. it's not exactly the same card .. but my old SMC-8216 Elite Ultra work perfectly with 3.1-STABLE using the ed device -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:19:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A2514F8F for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz (dynamic13.pm02.san-mateo.best.com [205.149.174.77]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id IAA14745 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:17:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be9bc1$69c47a30$2fe36ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <14135.57670.216107.982103@foobar.orion.no> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do you have a large hard disk, with the FreeBSD root partition > outside the first 1024 (logical) disk cylinders? If so, then that is > quite likely to be the reason. This may very well be it -- I'll check once I'm on the machine later today. If this is the case, why is a warning not issued when the system is set up? I assume that after doing the fdisk and slice partitioning, enough information is available to tell the user that their disk/slice setup will not allow the system to boot ... Just a thought. :P Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:31:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F1E159B6 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA36011 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is aha broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kernels from source cvsupped yesterday morning and afternoon (EDT) with the aha driver fail to boot. Just after the waiting for scsi devices to settle message I get: aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed then after a few seconds: probe17 aha0:2:0 CCB 0xc466f450 - time out probe17 aha0:2:0 CCB 0xc466f450 - time out aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed I build world and the kernel (twice) and got the same results. A kernel from May 3 source still works fine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:59:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ED514E38 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA29890; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:00:42 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda29886; Tue May 11 09:00:26 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA54849; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905111559.IAA54849@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdT54845; Tue May 11 08:59:07 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 21:01:57 +1000." <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:07 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au>, Gavan McCormack writes: > > > "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so > far no > > > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. > It > > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Stil > l, > > Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default > > Ok, so this list likes to keep me guessing. > > I assume then that NFSv3 cant do per-directory exporting? Or it just dosent > make a difference on any version of BSD4.4? Or, I am just doing something > wrong? > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) Actually you can export filesystems on a directory basis, without the -alldirs flag. If you want to use the -alldirs flag you'll need to jump through an extra hoop to get that working: Mount a nullfs filesystem with the directory you wish to export with -alldirs, then export that instead. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:16:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D439C154F4; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA25904; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:59 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1950 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering if anybody out there has actually done any experimentation with gigabit ethernet boards using the Alteon Tigon driver. I know that it works on my hardware, but it's nice to actually have some feedback from people so that I know if it's actually working worth a damn. So far I have not heard a peep out of anybody, other than a couple of people who were nice enough to help out with some driver testing, and that was months ago. I usually consider this a good thing, because it means that at least nobody is complaining. But when people ask me "hey Bill, how well do these boards work with FreeBSD?" all I can tell them is that they seem to work okay in my limited test environment. This does not exactly provide a lot of motivation to go out and buy some gigabit ethernet cards. Also, I only have access to a limited selection of cards (I have a 3Com and a Netgear board, and others have tested AceNIC boards) so I don't know for sure if some of the ones that I claim to support actually work. (I don't have any reason to believe they won't, but Murphy's Law applies.) I also don't have access to a gigabit switch, so my testing is limited to blasting traffic between two hosts through a fiber patch. So, if anybody is actually using a Tigon-based gigabit board with STABLE or CURRENT, let me know. Is it working reliably? Is performance good? Is it bad? Inquiring minds want to know. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:21:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2871614ED7 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01702 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:21:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001001be9bca$48109d20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga IV, REAL CRASH Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:21:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK! Spoke too soon........ PANIC..... after 3 days...... Originally I found that a FAN was not running! .... but considering the CPU was a PII-333 with a good heat sink in a very cold computer room I was suspicious. I still have had a system panic... but after carefully checking off all the steps for saving a panic dump... So now I have the following files: # pwd /var/crash # ls -l total 132818 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2 May 11 16:44 bounds -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1696185 May 11 16:44 kernel.0 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root wheel 5 Feb 15 10:45 minfree -rw------- 1 root wheel 134217728 May 11 16:44 vmcore.0 # Obviously I won't attach them Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:26:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from btw.plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us (btw.aa.net [206.125.75.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269C14BEE; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com) Received: from localhost (dennisg@localhost) by btw.plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32528; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting To: Bill Paul Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. -- Dennis Glatting Copyright (c) 1999 Software Munitions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:34:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A9514FC0 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27518 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:34:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14198 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:31:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA08194 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:33:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:33:54 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: latest Perl Message-ID: <19990511193354.A5035@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, Perl is in system, but what if one wants a newer version of Perl (*replacing* the current one?). Now why should one want this ...maybe because newer modules scream for things that are now bundled with the latest stable.tar.gz of Perl for instance. -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:39:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78C2415406; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA25952; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:26 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199905111638.MAA25952@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? To: dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com (Dennis Glatting) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dennis Glatting" at May 11, 99 09:25:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1414 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dennis Glatting had to walk into mine and say: > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. You didn't read what I said. I don't have a gigabit ethernet switch. I only have cards. Therefore the *only* way I can test the operation of the driver and adapters is to connect two machines with gigabit cards back to back with a patch cable. This automatically implies 'using gb end-to-end.' As for corruption due to TCP sequence number wrapping, I don't know what to tell you. I never noticed such behavior in my tests, but that's why I'm asking for feedback from other people. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C214515B7F for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA10797; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:41:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:41:39 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Dmitry Khrustalev Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dmitry Khrustalev wrote: > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > > Another thing to try is to turn off write gathering - it can interact > poorly with clients that write one block at a time instead of having > multiple outstanding writes. You can check if write gathering is being > effective using nfsstat, look for Opsaved number. The knob is > vfs.nfs.gatherdelay, set it to 0. Dmitry, thank you a *LOT*!! After setting it, I am getting steady 2.9MB/s on write via 100MBit network. The problem has been solved! Futhermore, I examined sysctl -a output and set "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". After that, Samba rocked! (850KB/s on write via 10MBit/s network). Is there any good source of information about sysctls? manpages are very brief and do not cover all sysctls. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:44:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAC9155B1; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id SAA26851; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:44:05 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:43:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Bill Paul Cc: stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Feedback on new drivers (was: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?) In-Reply-To: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There should be a more general mechanism for this. I have the same problem with the USB stuff. 100+ people on the usb-bsd mailing list and only answers to directed questions. What about, like 'HEADS-UP', a 'FEEDBACK: ' message that should invite people to send 'it works' messages. And maybe provide a template of commands to cut and paste. Something like: (echo it works for me uname -a ident dmesg | grep '^' ) | mail -s "" person@address assuming that people are too lazy to type things in themselves. Cheers, Nick On Tue, 11 May 1999, Bill Paul wrote: > I'm wondering if anybody out there has actually done any experimentation > with gigabit ethernet boards using the Alteon Tigon driver. I know that > it works on my hardware, but it's nice to actually have some feedback > from people so that I know if it's actually working worth a damn. So > far I have not heard a peep out of anybody, other than a couple of people > who were nice enough to help out with some driver testing, and that > was months ago. > > I usually consider this a good thing, because it means that at least > nobody is complaining. But when people ask me "hey Bill, how well do > these boards work with FreeBSD?" all I can tell them is that they seem > to work okay in my limited test environment. This does not exactly > provide a lot of motivation to go out and buy some gigabit ethernet > cards. > > Also, I only have access to a limited selection of cards (I have a 3Com > and a Netgear board, and others have tested AceNIC boards) so I don't > know for sure if some of the ones that I claim to support actually > work. (I don't have any reason to believe they won't, but Murphy's > Law applies.) I also don't have access to a gigabit switch, so my > testing is limited to blasting traffic between two hosts through a > fiber patch. > > So, if anybody is actually using a Tigon-based gigabit board with > STABLE or CURRENT, let me know. Is it working reliably? Is performance > good? Is it bad? Inquiring minds want to know. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu > Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research > Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City > ============================================================================= > "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" > ============================================================================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:46: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4821715CB9 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA10847; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:08 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > > > are writing. > > > > Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less > > reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about > > ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was > > thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write > > caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is > > impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write > > caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is > > another question. > > The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't > expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec > and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. There are cases when NFSv3 is simply not an option (can't upgrade clients). IMHO, the filesystem which does fflush() after each write() (effectively, this is a requirement for NFSv2) is seriously broken in design. > > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > > > be better than this. > > > > Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. > > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip > > Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized > requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance > considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it > is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. The problem has been solved! (see my other message). Answer: sysctl -w vfs.nfs.gatherdelay=0 > > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > > > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > > > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). > > > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > > Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of > the samba source code). Samba started to perform reasonably well (870KB/s on write via 10MBit/s) after "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". I wonder why an option in the smb.conf had no effect. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:48: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [209.73.230.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7BE158B7; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D00FE1A0; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narcissus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C11F813F; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: Snob Art Genre To: Dennis Glatting Cc: Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? Ben @narcissus.net -- finally To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:50: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96426159F9 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05732; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:41:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00698; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:39:35 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:39:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest Perl In-Reply-To: <19990511193354.A5035@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope.. simply compile and install it in /usr/local/ then the apps that need the new perl can use /usr/local/bin/perl as the call to perl istead of /usr/bin/perl advantage of this is that your current stuff keeps on working. Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Tue, 11 May 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > OK, Perl is in system, but what if one wants a newer version of Perl > (*replacing* the current one?). > > Now why should one want this ...maybe because newer modules scream for things > that are now bundled with the latest stable.tar.gz of Perl for instance. > > -- > Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include > adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:51:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AB8415DEF for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 8449 invoked by uid 1001); 11 May 1999 16:51:37 +0000 (GMT) To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu Cc: dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT)" References: <199905111638.MAA25952@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:51:37 +0200 Message-ID: <8447.926441497@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You didn't read what I said. I don't have a gigabit ethernet switch. > I only have cards. Therefore the *only* way I can test the operation > of the driver and adapters is to connect two machines with gigabit > cards back to back with a patch cable. This automatically implies 'using > gb end-to-end.' > > As for corruption due to TCP sequence number wrapping, I don't know > what to tell you. I never noticed such behavior in my tests, but that's > why I'm asking for feedback from other people. The obvious answer to the TCP sequence number problem is RFC 1323. I assume anybody who wants to use gigabit Ethernet over significant distances *will* use RFC 1323, if they are interested in any performance at all. Otherwise the 64 kbyte window will kill you. As for me, I have tested the driver with Netgear cards. Works great here, I got 470 Mbps (effective application to application) with ttcp, running back to back on a PII-350 and a Celeron 300A (overclocked to 337, thus PCI bus clocked at 37.5 Mhz). The limit in my case is clearly the CPU. However I did *not* see any better performance when I turned on jumbo frames. Next I'll put one card in an old PPro-200 and see what I can get from that. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:10: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD515167; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA30240; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:11:04 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda30236; Tue May 11 10:10:47 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA00755; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905111709.KAA00755@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdARD751; Tue May 11 10:09:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kudos In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 09:46:41 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:09:29 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd have to agree. About five years ago, when I was deciding whether to switch to FreeBSD or NetBSD from Linux, I had been corresponding with Jordan about the goals of the FreeBSD project. I was impressed then and have been impressed by the work of The Team ever since. Keep up the good work guys! Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writ es: > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > >writes: > >> > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > rocks! ;-) > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A8C14DA6; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BC81F72; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:11:43 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Snob Art Genre Cc: Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400." Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:11:43 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? Well, maybe it would, but.... [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). It's off by default. :-( Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:41:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [209.73.230.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9551214D87; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C78A4190; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narcissus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B9AAE18E; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Peter Wemm Cc: Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? > > Well, maybe it would, but.... > > [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). > > It's off by default. :-( IMO that's a good thing, because for some reason, the RFC 1323 extensions break a lot of older terminal servers. Ben @narcissus.net -- finally To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11: 6:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7F31512E; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00602; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... looks fixed! In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed the new sources and installed the new kernel. I am hopeful that this will fix the problem, and I'll post if I get another lockup or run a week without one. Thanks again to the FreeBSD team, you guys do rock! Cliff On Tue, 11 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > >writes: > >> > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > rocks! ;-) > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D3915003; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id TAA77827; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:13:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:13:47 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Peter Wemm Cc: Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? Message-ID: <19990511191347.C33364@pavilion.net> References: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au>; from Peter Wemm on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Snob Art Genre wrote: > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > > > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > > > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > > > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > > > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. > > > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? > > Well, maybe it would, but.... > > [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:18:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nsx.cybersites.com (unknown [207.92.123.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6D015003; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) Received: from localhost (cyouse@localhost) by nsx.cybersites.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA13535; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nsx.cybersites.com: cyouse owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Youse To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Peter Wemm , Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <19990511191347.C33364@pavilion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where did you learn to read? Chuck Youse Director of Systems cyouse@cybersites.com On Tue, 11 May 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). > > No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) > > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:23:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F289159F9; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20434; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA01371; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Chuck Youse Cc: Josef Karthauser , Peter Wemm , Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 EDT." Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1369.926446995@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Isn't it more appropriate to ask where he didn't learn to read ? :-) Poul-Henning In message , Chuc k Youse writes: > >Where did you learn to read? > >Chuck Youse >Director of Systems >cyouse@cybersites.com > > >On Tue, 11 May 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > >> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). >> >> No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) >> >> Joe >> -- >> Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? >> Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) >> Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 12:14:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E070414BEE for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01497; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:14:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:14:05 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't > > expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec > > and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. > > There are cases when NFSv3 is simply not an option (can't upgrade > clients). IMHO, the filesystem which does fflush() after each write() > (effectively, this is a requirement for NFSv2) is seriously broken in > design. I agree there. I'm still not changing the default though since its not my data which would be risked. It has to be a decision made by the individual admin (it would be nice to have better documentation though). > > Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized > > requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance > > considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it > > is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. > > The problem has been solved! (see my other message). Answer: > sysctl -w vfs.nfs.gatherdelay=0 Excellent. > > Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of > > the samba source code). > > Samba started to perform reasonably well (870KB/s on write via 10MBit/s) > after "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". I wonder why an option in > the smb.conf had no effect. I'm sure I managed to get samba to use TCP_NODELAY with an option. Its been a while since I had to tune a samba installation. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 13:16:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M4.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B314C18; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00921; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:17:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3738906E.34CAA50C@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:17:51 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: elf interpretor References: <3.0.5.32.19990511153039.0080d100@mail.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2.2.7-R I've same prob during "make upgrade" to 3.1-S (now). It's not fatal, but sinternal voice tell me that is not all. So ur question is mine too. Garrett Rose wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently installed enlightenment from a package, along with all the > files necessary to run it. When I tried running it, I got the error > message 'ld-elf.so.1 not found', the elf interpretor. The version of > FreeBSD I currently have is 2.6.6, is this the problem, do I need to ugrade > to 3.X? Or could I just get the elf interpretor for 2.6.6, as well as any > other file I might need? > > Garrett Rose > garose@vt.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target ö80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 13:23:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.lonetree.com (falcon.lonetree.com [207.141.55.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70039150C0 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:23:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolfnet@wolfnet-irc.org) Received: from wolfnet-irc.org (users.wolfnet-irc.org [209.64.46.42]) by falcon.lonetree.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00980; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:22:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3738923E.3D31A5C3@wolfnet-irc.org> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:25:34 -0600 From: Jonathan Frazier Organization: The WolfNet-IRC Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Schmitt Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 References: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem on 2.2.8-stable and 3.1-stable. I found out that my drive geometry was incorrect. After changing the type of drive in my bios configuration and changing the geometry with FBSD, I never had another problem. Mike Schmitt wrote: > Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 > ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing else. > > Pentium 233MMX, Tyan motherboard, 64mb RAM, single IDE hard disk partitioned > for DOS, Solaris for Intel, and FreeBSD. Intel EtherExpress Pro & DEC PCI > network cards. Mach64 video. IDE CD ROM. I'll make a note of the chipset > when I get access to the machine next. > > As a test, we pulled out all the adapter cards except the video card, and > disconnected the CD ROM. Same result. > > Let me know what else to provide -- this is a mystery to me as well, as I've > installed BSD on several quite similar systems (Tyan motherboards, etc.) and > they've worked fine. > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel C. Sobral [mailto:dcs@newsguy.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:30 PM > > To: Mike Schmitt > > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 > > > > > > Mike Schmitt wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. > > I boot off > > > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > > > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I > > hit F3 to get > > > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any > > ideas on how to > > > proceed? > > > > Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and > > quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a > > many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the > > slightest clue on what is freezing. > > > > Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. > > Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, > > everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the > > one piece of information omitted. > > > > -- > > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > > dcs@newsguy.com > > dcs@freebsd.org > > > > "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his > > predictions have come true yet." > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Jonathan C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 19:30:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from helios.newcastle.edu.au (helios.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.140.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8514F20 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c9710216@engmail.newcastle.edu.au) Received: (from c9710216@localhost) by helios.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA08826; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:30:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:30:35 +1000 (EST) From: Jacob Hart To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [offtopic] Rain (CPU Cooler for Win95/98) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since many people from this list have asked where they can download the program, I'll post here. Rain sends HLT instructions to your CPU when it's idle. This lowers the temperature of the processor and thus assists stability on systems that typically run hot. Q: What about a FreeBSD version? A: FreeBSD (and other OSs designed to be run in a 24/7 uptime environment) enable this by default in the kernel. Website for Rain/WaterfallPro containing some useful info: http://cpu.simplenet.com/leading_wintech/ You can grab a (perfectly legal) copy from the following site: http://cpu.simplenet.com/files.htm -jake (obituary) Powered by FreeBSD c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 22:32:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B95514ED2 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id AAA91673 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:32:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199905120532.AAA91673@aurora.sol.net> Subject: New boot loader question To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:32:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a /boot/loader.rc that looks like set autoboot_delay=15 set console=comconsole set prompt="boot: aurora >" and a serial console. This goes into another machine. My (simple) question, why do the first two "set" commands work and the third does not? If I hit space to abort the autoboot, the prompt does not set, which would be sort of nice because once in a while I get machines a bit confused ("now, let's see, which one is on which port...") ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 22:47:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6115101; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00559; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. An unhappy freebsd user once again, Cliff On Tue, 11 May 1999, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > I cvsup'ed the new sources and installed the new kernel. I am hopeful that > this will fix the problem, and I'll post if I get another lockup or run a > week without one. > > Thanks again to the FreeBSD team, you guys do rock! > > Cliff > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > > >writes: > > >> > > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > > rocks! ;-) > > > > ---Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain > Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty > cliff@steam.com | nor safety." > http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 0:12: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from callisto.geotec.net (callisto.geotec.net [208.244.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949291529B for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chebon@geotec.net) Received: from geotec.net (apogee.geotec.net [208.244.246.24]) by callisto.geotec.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-60637U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:24:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37392A62.F9468ADD@geotec.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:14:43 -0500 From: chebon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe me please To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 0:56:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF82C15CF1 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 12 May 1999 07:56:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512075625.30627.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: [Q] kernel panic in 3.1-stable To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Does anyone experienced similar kernel panics in 3.1-stable? panic message: # dmesg -N kernel.0 -M vmcore.0 | tail panic: lockmgr: locking against myself syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself dumping to dev 20401, offset 798146 [... skipped...] With best regards, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 0:56:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F8615D07; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01361; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com> To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:26 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:55:29 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. Time is very short for getting this fixed before the release deadline. I think Luoqi's patch that was in the PR was suseptible to a priority inversion problem and has risks associated with using it. The fix that Matt Dillion made for -current that I back-ported to -stable was an attempt to fix the problem while minimizing the side effects. If it doesn't fix the problem then we'll proceed with plan B which is probably to just go with Luoqi's fix or to possibly troubleshoot Matt's fix (but as I said, time is short). >Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, >no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. > >An unhappy freebsd user once again, Is this really necessary? It sure doesn't help the debugging process. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 1:36:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFC4152D8 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA02793 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:36:06 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00a801be9c52$72f40a80$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: [Q] kernel panic in 3.1-stable Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:35:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Panic ... Yes.... In a previous message I reported that I am still having kernel panics in 3.1-Stable.... Unfortunately because of circumstances ... Partial reinstall (corrupt /usr file system) and a restore from backup... I seem to have no actual panic message. (perhaps because I did a full restore overwriting the /var/messages file) It has been and ongoing thing with no real indicators.... the primary server which does almost everything complex crashes about every two - three days... if it were a hardware problem it would crash all the time! (since it does so much) But my last plea went un-heard... my reputation is somewhat tarnished by the whole affair with people asking serious questions. I would like to spend more time trying to filter through the core but it will require a little more time than I currently have right now... (learning all about crash dumps and how to read them) I also have files called "vmcore.0" & "kernel.0" which were placed into the /var/crash directory so after the last crash. Also a message momentarily flashed up on the console.... but I did not get a good look at it... it had something to do with "page fault" but I could be wrong. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Sergey To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 12 May 1999 08:57 Subject: [Q] kernel panic in 3.1-stable >Hi! > >Does anyone experienced similar kernel panics in 3.1-stable? > >panic message: ># dmesg -N kernel.0 -M vmcore.0 | tail >panic: lockmgr: locking against myself > >syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself > >dumping to dev 20401, offset 798146 >[... skipped...] > > >With best regards, Sergey. > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 1:39:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3F915C88 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01497; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905120838.BAA01497@implode.root.com> To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] kernel panic in 3.1-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "12 May 1999 07:56:25 -0000." <19990512075625.30627.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:38:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Does anyone experienced similar kernel panics in 3.1-stable? > >panic message: ># dmesg -N kernel.0 -M vmcore.0 | tail >panic: lockmgr: locking against myself > >syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself Are you using softupdates? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 2: 8:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD4614DD7; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:08:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02414; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: David Greenman Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-Reply-To: <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the > >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that > >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. > > Time is very short for getting this fixed before the release deadline. I > think Luoqi's patch that was in the PR was suseptible to a priority inversion > problem and has risks associated with using it. The fix that Matt Dillion > made for -current that I back-ported to -stable was an attempt to fix the > problem while minimizing the side effects. If it doesn't fix the problem > then we'll proceed with plan B which is probably to just go with Luoqi's > fix or to possibly troubleshoot Matt's fix (but as I said, time is short). I'll do whatever I can do, I've been looking at the code and am thinking about some debugging strategies to try and figure out what is happening. Unfortunately this code is complex in regards to potential interactions, so I am going through this quite slowly. I really can't afford to back out the patch at this point, but I can add any code to my kernel to gather debugging info for people working on this. It would be probably better for you to tell me what you want to know than for me to guess. I have lots of disk space, so super verbose stuff is OK. My system is a PII 350 with 128MB of memory and 512MB swap, 3 SCSI buses (a 2940 and a 3940), an intel etherexpress 10/100, and a zynx 4 port 10/100 card. This problem started the begining of this month after an installworld and kernel update. This system had been running 3.1 since 3.1-release and 2.2.x since mid summer without a single crash, well except for that bad SCSI cable in september which was my fault. The problem does not occur until there is some paging activity. It also usually seems to happen when users with large mailboxes are writing to their mail spools. Usually there are 2-6 people reading mail on the machine at any given time, 15 active users in total. 20% of the users use PINE accessing the spool directly, 20% use pine but accessing the spool via IMAP, and 60% use IMAP only from other systems (at times also with a shell open on the system but not reading mail). It seems the first two pine categories are much more likely to cause the problem, but those users also are the ones with bigger spool files. The last deadlock was me running screen, pine, and compiling egcs. There was one other user logged into the system with an idle shell open, the other user was also reading mail via IMAP from netscape. This is not really a heavy load for this system, but with 128MB it will probably start to use swap at this point. The same machine runs: samba, active mounts - no tranfers in progress apache, no requests being served DNS, constant traffic, but not high volume sendmail, was attempting a few local and about 10 remote deliveries at the time. IMAP had two connections active, my pine session and the netscape session on a remote machine No X server is ever run on this machine, ssh, telnet and an occasional console login is how this machine is used. Routing, it's the router between a few very low use LANs and the firewall router. > > >Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, > >no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. > > > >An unhappy freebsd user once again, > > Is this really necessary? It sure doesn't help the debugging process. This was not a flame, but an expression of my frustration. Necessary, no. True, yes. I make my living helping other people with their systems figuring out solutions. I've recommended FreeBSD a hell of a lot, it is my #1 choice due to it's stability. I used to use linux, but stopped recommending Linux for anything except a firewall almost a year ago after bad luck with most any user level process running for a long period of time, especially named. When I install FreeBSD for or at a client site and it crashes, it is I who looks bad. I know there will be more mail in my mailbox about people that can't get access to their mail and web sites that are down. I think it is perfectly reasonable to be unhappy, and to express that in a limited manner. Anyways, it's late and I hope this post made sense. My writing skills decrease rapidly when I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. Cliff -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 2:19:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA1115315 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11709 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07438 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14915 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:08 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. Message-ID: <19990512111908.A58262@internal> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:30:30PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 09-May-1999 at 22:30:30 +0400, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another > > >> exports > > >> line that contains a host from 195.208.220 > > > > > > No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: > > > > > ># > > ># This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. > > ># It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. > > > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 > > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 > > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > /vol1 lab > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab > > > /home -alldirs lab > > > /tmp1 lab > > > > Does it still give an error if you take the "-alldirs" option out of the > > /var/spool/pcnfs lines? > > Surprisingly, no. This looks quite interesting. The reason I was putting > -alldirs flag is in stupid pcnfs printing which mounts directories like > /var/spool/pcnfs/machine-name. The solution I have settled on is rather > ugly but seems to work: > > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine2 \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/lyambda \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/solar \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/universe \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/silden \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/rillanon > /var/spool/pcnfs/practic \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/prof \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/spiral \ > lab friends > > (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least > one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! OK, a lot of people will tell me now that this is terribly bad/insecure/ hacked/false/... (pick what you want), but this is what I do: /var/spool/pcnfs -network 192.168.1.0 and the following patch to mountd.c (compile with -DANDRE, of course): *** mountd.c.ORI Wed May 12 09:08:11 1999 --- mountd.c Wed May 12 11:13:31 1999 *************** *** 1230,1236 **** --- 1230,1240 ---- int cmp; if (dp) { + #ifdef ANDRE + cmp = strncmp(dp->dp_dirp, dirpath, strlen(dp->dp_dirp)); + #else cmp = strcmp(dp->dp_dirp, dirpath); + #endif if (cmp > 0) return (dirp_search(dp->dp_left, dirpath)); else if (cmp < 0) This implies -alldirs for every line in /etc/exports and this even if it isn't the root of a filesystem. It worked well for years now here... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 3: 2:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CD614D67; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id KAA86935; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:58:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:58:49 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Chuck Youse , Peter Wemm , Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? Message-ID: <19990512105849.A71991@pavilion.net> References: <1369.926446995@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <1369.926446995@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Tue, May 11, 1999 at 08:23:15PM +0200 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 08:23:15PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Isn't it more appropriate to ask where he didn't learn to read ? :-) > Ok. ok. thanks for the abuse :) > > > >> > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). > > So we're agreed that this is confusing no? Couldn't it read: tcp_extensions="NO" # Switch RFC1323 extensions on? That way I'd understand it however awake I was :) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 3:11:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027814EA8 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00322 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:19:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <373955B2.D9DA3E07@prime.net.ua> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:19:31 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FS Subject: Got 3.1! But some questions remains. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today I've finished upgrade from 2.2.7-R to 3.1-S! SUBJ: Q.1. during upgrade libc.so.3.1 was not installed. Instead of it was installed libc.so.3 which I think will work with new apps I will install. My aout libc.so.3.1 was moved in aout subdir. I would like to use some of my old aouts so I've symlinked aout version into /usr/lib. Now all my old aouts works fine. But after I'll install new (elf) software, there will be definite conflict. How to avoid it in the future? Any refs? Q.2. please give me mailing list archieve's URL. To not disturb U guys :) -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 3:35: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813871522D; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20349; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:34:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:34:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199905121034.MAA20349@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "make release" breaks in Handbook Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: olli@FreeBSE.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /usr/doc/en/handbook/install/chapter.sgml broke between yesterday and today... Looks like a bunch of SGML errors (see below), like character data inside a etc. Unfortunately I'm not that much of an SGML expert to fix it myself. :-( Regards Oliver ===> en/handbook /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -c /usr/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/3.0/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml handbook.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:279:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:280:22:E: end tag for "NOTE" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:287:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:287:30:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:288:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:288:30:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:289:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:289:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:297:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:297:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:298:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:298:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:299:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:299:32:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:300:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:300:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:301:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:301:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:302:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:302:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:303:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:303:32:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:304:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:304:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:305:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:305:32:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:313:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:313:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:314:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:314:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:315:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:315:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:316:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:316:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:317:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:317:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:318:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:318:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:319:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:319:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:320:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:320:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:321:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:321:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:329:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:329:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:330:13:E: character data is not allowed here /usr/local/bin/jade:install/chapter.sgml:330:31:E: end tag for "LISTITEM" which is not finished *** Error code 1 -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 6: 1:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www0l.netaddress.usa.net (www0l.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3977614CB3 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:01:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezamys@netscape.net) Received: (qmail 14223 invoked by uid 60001); 12 May 1999 13:01:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512130145.14222.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.41 by www0l via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Wed May 12 13:01:45 GMT 1999 Date: 12 May 99 06:01:45 PDT From: Reza Tahir To: freeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 6:27:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D1A14FFC; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA48245; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199905121034.MAA20349@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:19:11 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: olli@FreeBSE.ORG Subject: RE: "make release" breaks in Handbook Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-May-99 Oliver Fromme wrote: > /usr/doc/en/handbook/install/chapter.sgml broke between > yesterday and today... Looks like a bunch of SGML errors > (see below), like character data inside a etc. > Unfortunately I'm not that much of an SGML expert to fix > it myself. :-( I've just committed the fix, so it must build now. Thanks JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 6:47:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (pascal.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC4814CBA for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Received: from protheus.ravel.ufrj.br (protheus.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.67]) by pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA23222; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:11 -0300 (EST) From: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria Received: (from rodolfo@localhost) by protheus.ravel.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17323; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:11 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Message-Id: <199905121347.KAA17323@protheus.ravel.ufrj.br> Subject: ppbus broken in 3.1-RELEASE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:47:11 -0300 (EST) Cc: macedo@ravel.ufrj.br (Sergio Ricardo Ferreira Macedo) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We had a HP LaserJet 4 Plus printer working perfectly in a 2.2.6-STABLE system using the old lpt driver. I've changed it to a 3.1-RELEASE system and used the new ppbus driver. Then there was a problem in printing that sometimes strange characters randomly showed in the printouts, I've tryed everything from changing cables, printer memory, ghostscript version, paralel port configuration (normal, ECP, EPP), and nothing worked. Finally I've tryed reversing to the old lpt driver, and everything worked great. That seemed strange since I've already used a Canon Bubblejet printer with the ppbus in an old pre 3.0-RELEASE system, I even had a paralel Zip Drive with it. Had anyone out there the same problem ? I believe that's something really dangerous, especially since you are planning to disable permanentely the lpt driver. Rodolfo H G Faria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 6:49:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CDE14CBA for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 06:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id WAA18732; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:47:59 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <373984A8.B97D503D@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:39:52 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Greco Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New boot loader question References: <199905120532.AAA91673@aurora.sol.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Greco wrote: > > I've got a /boot/loader.rc that looks like > > set autoboot_delay=15 > set console=comconsole > set prompt="boot: aurora >" > > and a serial console. This goes into another machine. My (simple) > question, why do the first two "set" commands work and the third does > not? If I hit space to abort the autoboot, the prompt does not set, > which would be sort of nice because once in a while I get machines a > bit confused ("now, let's see, which one is on which port...") Because you use an older version of loader. :-) Read the man page. After processing loader.rc, loader(8) sets the prompt. The current version of loader doesn't have this idiosyncrasy. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 7: 1:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEE514CBA for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id JAA28177; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:01:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199905121401.JAA28177@aurora.sol.net> Subject: Re: New boot loader question In-Reply-To: <373984A8.B97D503D@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "May 12, 1999 10:39:52 pm" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:01:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Because you use an older version of loader. :-) Read the man page. And it'd tell me that I'm using an older version of loader? I doubt it! :-) (I did read the man page and didn't get real far, but it was not so important that I was about to go bug hunting in code I'd never seen before).. I suppose I won't ask about dual console support since somebody probably did that already. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 7:45: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C8115D97 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA09437; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:44:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373993F7.4D37E7F@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:45:11 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppbus broken in 3.1-RELEASE References: <199905121347.KAA17323@protheus.ravel.ufrj.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes I had problems like that. It seems to have been fixed in STABLE. For now, I would use the depreciated lpt driver. Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria wrote: > > > > Hello, > > We had a HP LaserJet 4 Plus printer working perfectly in a > 2.2.6-STABLE system using the old lpt driver. I've changed it > to a 3.1-RELEASE system and used the new ppbus driver. > > Then there was a problem in printing that sometimes strange characters > randomly showed in the printouts, I've tryed everything from changing > cables, printer memory, ghostscript version, paralel port configuration > (normal, ECP, EPP), and nothing worked. Finally I've tryed reversing > to the old lpt driver, and everything worked great. > > That seemed strange since I've already used a Canon Bubblejet printer > with the ppbus in an old pre 3.0-RELEASE system, I even had a paralel > Zip Drive with it. > > Had anyone out there the same problem ? I believe that's something > really dangerous, especially since you are planning to disable > permanentely the lpt driver. > > Rodolfo H G Faria > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 7:54: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (pascal.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB55615D61 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Received: from protheus.ravel.ufrj.br (protheus.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.67]) by pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA24023; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:53:55 -0300 (EST) From: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria Received: (from rodolfo@localhost) by protheus.ravel.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18006; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:53:55 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Message-Id: <199905121453.LAA18006@protheus.ravel.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: ppbus broken in 3.1-RELEASE In-Reply-To: from "Dr. F. Gubarev" at "May 12, 99 04:19:57 pm" To: gubarev@mppmu.mpg.de (Dr. F. Gubarev) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:53:54 -0300 (EST) Cc: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dr. F. Gubarev was saying that, ^ ^ On Wed, 12 May 1999, Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria wrote: ^ ^ > Hello, ^ > ^ > We had a HP LaserJet 4 Plus printer working perfectly in a ^ > 2.2.6-STABLE system using the old lpt driver. I've changed it ^ > to a 3.1-RELEASE system and used the new ppbus driver. ^ > ^ > Then there was a problem in printing that sometimes strange characters ^ > randomly showed in the printouts, I've tryed everything from changing ^ > cables, printer memory, ghostscript version, paralel port configuration ^ > (normal, ECP, EPP), and nothing worked. Finally I've tryed reversing ^ > to the old lpt driver, and everything worked great. ^ > ^ > That seemed strange since I've already used a Canon Bubblejet printer ^ > with the ppbus in an old pre 3.0-RELEASE system, I even had a paralel ^ > Zip Drive with it. ^ > ^ > Had anyone out there the same problem ? I believe that's something ^ > really dangerous, especially since you are planning to disable ^ > permanentely the lpt driver. ^ ^ I had the same problem upgrading 2.2.8S->3.1R. The problem appears to be ^ in the line: ^ ^ device ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 ^ ^^^^^ ^ If "tty" is changed to "net" (as it was in GENERIC, if I remember) then ^ printer begins print some garbage ... Check that this flag is indeed ^ "tty", should work perfectly after that. That seems to be problem. It is working fine now. Thanks. ^ ^ Regards, Gubarev Fedor. ^ Rodolfo H G Faria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 7:56:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mate.kjsl.com (Mate.KJSL.COM [204.87.183.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D3215DF6 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc@reanimators.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mate.kjsl.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id HAA09097 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fmc@localhost) by daemonweed.reanimators.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01982; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc) Message-Id: <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? References: From: Frank McConnell Date: 12 May 1999 07:29:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: jack's message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT)" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jack wrote: > Kernels from source cvsupped yesterday morning and afternoon > (EDT) with the aha driver fail to boot. Just after the waiting > for scsi devices to settle message I get: Hmm, I'm getting a slightly different set of output, both with -stable CVSup'd Sunday morning (I think) and on Monday morning (ooh, 3.2-BETA): aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa aha0: AHA-1542CP FW Rev. F.0 (ID=46) SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 16 CCBs create_intr: requested irq-1 too high, limit is 23 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out aha0: No longer in timeout (probe21:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out (probe21:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out aha0: No longer in timeout (Repeat the last six lines until you lose patience...each group of three is good for a couple of minutes.) > I build world and the kernel (twice) and got the same results. A > kernel from May 3 source still works fine. Don't know about that here, I updated this system from 3.1-RELEASE to -stable before pulling the 1542CP from a functioning 2.2.1-RELEASE system (different box). I'm not convinced (yet) that this isn't some stupid configuration error on my part, though the hardware from the 1542 on out is the same as it was on the 2.2.1 system (same card, cable, tape drive, termination). Figuring that the "create_intr" message above might have something to do with my explicitly configuring irq 11 in the config file (as that's how the card is set), I changed the irq in the config file to ? and rebuilt. No difference. Haven't tried changing the card's irq to something other than 11 yet, but I think irq 11 is available for this use. Suggestions of other things to look at and do would be welcome but I won't get to them 'til tonight. -Frank McConnell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 8: 0:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2EA1552D; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA02535; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:01:23 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda02533; Wed May 12 08:01:13 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA27314; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905121459.HAA27314@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdi27310; Wed May 12 07:59:46 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: dg@root.com Cc: Cliff Skolnick , Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 00:55:29 PDT." <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:59:44 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would plan B risk corruption of any data? Could itself be the likely cause of any potential panics? Assuming plan B has no major risks, this might be a temporary workaround until we can wrap our minds around this one. It's just a rework of Luoqi's patch, just in case we want to try plan B again. --- kern_lock.c.orig Tue May 11 08:34:52 1999 +++ kern_lock.c Wed May 12 05:38:52 1999 @@ -215,7 +215,9 @@ * lock itself ). */ if (lkp->lk_lockholder != pid) { - if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { + if ((p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) || + ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && + (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { error = acquire( lkp, extflags, If this workaround doesn't work, then setting error = 0 and allowing the code to fall through to the subsequent sharelock may be our only choice for now. The other point I wish to make for all on this list is that Matt's patch fixes a read()/mmap() deadlock. It doesn't fix a write()/mmap() deadlock. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com>, David Greenman writes: > >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the > >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that > >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. > > Time is very short for getting this fixed before the release deadline. I > think Luoqi's patch that was in the PR was suseptible to a priority inversion > problem and has risks associated with using it. The fix that Matt Dillion > made for -current that I back-ported to -stable was an attempt to fix the > problem while minimizing the side effects. If it doesn't fix the problem > then we'll proceed with plan B which is probably to just go with Luoqi's > fix or to possibly troubleshoot Matt's fix (but as I said, time is short). > > >Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, > >no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. > > > >An unhappy freebsd user once again, > > Is this really necessary? It sure doesn't help the debugging process. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 8: 3:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DF2153A9 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adepoo@tamnet.com.mx) Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by correo.tamnet.com.mx (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id KAA11825 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:03:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:03:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: no /boot/loader problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm installing 3.1R on a couple of 4GB Seagate Medallist disks (from a dumped installation), I make a only one partition of the disk and in that I make a / fs and a swap, my problem is: If I do the partition of the entire disk (in the mode that some space is left in the front of the disk), then when I boot up with that disk, an error show telling that no /boot/loader exist, and then the boot prompt show and I can boot the kernel (but everything I have on the loader do not work). If I do the partition and all for FreeBSD (in the mode all space is the same partition, no space left at front), then everything go ok. I have to make a disk that need to have a DOS partition, so I'm stuck with problem of the no /boot/loader Can someone know what is this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 8:37:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.pentalpha.com.hk (unknown [210.176.109.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E2D14E1E for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@pentalpha.com.hk) Received: from ras.pentalpha.com.hk ([10.0.0.153]) by server.pentalpha.com.hk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA17360 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:37:35 +0800 (CST) From: danny To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:32:57 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051223370900.00435@ras.pentalpha.com.hk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to get the 3.1 stable, however, after compile, it is 3.2-BETA. what wrong with my supfile? my supfile is : # Defaults that apply to all the collections *default host=cvsup3.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr # The following line is for 3-stable. If you want 2.2-stable, change # "RELENG_3" to "RELENG_2_2". *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix # If your network link is a T1 or faster, comment out the following line. *default compress ## The international secure collections. src-all src-crypto src-eBones src-secure Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 8:40:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BD314C59 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA06868; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:40:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:40:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: danny Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable In-Reply-To: <99051223370900.00435@ras.pentalpha.com.hk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, danny wrote: > I want to get the 3.1 stable, however, after compile, it is 3.2-BETA. > what wrong with my supfile? I do not think anything is wrong with your supfile ... I think with 3.2 scheduled for release around May 15th ... They simply renamed the 3.1-STABLE branch 3.2-BETA as this will most probably be the actual 3.2-RELEASE ... after that the stable-supfile will simply be 3.2-STABLE -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 8:41:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.firecracker.com (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C757314C59 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Received: from opscntr.dbq.mwci.net (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by boom.firecracker.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24962; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:36:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:36:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" X-Sender: jbutt@boom.firecracker.com To: danny Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable In-Reply-To: <99051223370900.00435@ras.pentalpha.com.hk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I want to get the 3.1 stable, however, after compile, it is 3.2-BETA. > what wrong with my supfile? I had this same "problem" yesterday upon searching the mailing list archives it seems as if 3.1-STABLE becomes 3.2-BETA while in transition to 3.2-STABLE (I would imagine this is why there is the ports freeze and such) If this is incorrect I am sure someone will slap me around... Though I am curious how long it stays BETA as It seems beta is more of a cooling off period... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Butt 'J.D.' jbutt@mwci.net - jbutt@firecracker.com MidWest Communications, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 9:24:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF377151C4 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25688; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30154; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "James D. Butt 'J.D" Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danny Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-May-99 James D. Butt 'J.D wrote: >> I want to get the 3.1 stable, however, after compile, it is 3.2-BETA. >> what wrong with my supfile? > > I had this same "problem" yesterday upon searching the mailing list > archives it seems as if 3.1-STABLE becomes 3.2-BETA while in transition to > 3.2-STABLE (I would imagine this is why there is the ports freeze and > such) > > If this is incorrect I am sure someone will slap me around... > > Though I am curious how long it stays BETA as It seems beta is more of a > cooling off period... It became -BETA Sunday, AFAIK, and the release is scheduled for Saturday.. (U.S days). It is -BETA so that 1) all the pre-built packages on the CD have 3.2 in them, and 2) it gives a week for -stable users to beat it to death to try and find bugs before release. AFAIK, no new features are allowed during -BETA, only bugfixes. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 10:12:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BD51531F for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA31985; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990512101152.A31956@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:11:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin , "James D. Butt 'J.D" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danny Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from John Baldwin on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 12:24:02PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It became -BETA Sunday, AFAIK, and the release is scheduled for > Saturday.. (U.S days). It is -BETA so that 1) all the pre-built > packages on the CD have 3.2 in them, and 2) it gives a week for -stable > users to beat it to death to try and find bugs before release. AFAIK, > no new features are allowed during -BETA, only bugfixes. VERY correct. Also by calling it "BETA" hopefully users will know this is their last chance to let us know of any show stoppers before the release. In general the version goes like this: 3.1-RELEAES --> 3.1-STABLE --> 3.2-BETA --> 3.2-RELEASE --> 3.2-STABLE P.S. Another need for "3.2-BETA" for a period of time is to let port maintainers make sure their ports will build under "3.2". My own LSOF for instance didn't recognize "FreeBSD 3.2" and thus this period of time gave me time to fix it before the code freeze. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 10:24:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3E615457 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-25.cybcon.com [205.147.75.26]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA25479 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: Kernel boot problems..... Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:24:28 -0700 Message-ID: <000101be9c9c$4a664480$1a4b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running 3.1 -Release I just finished doing a : /usr/sbin/config William then did ../../compile/William make depend make make install did a reboot command to reboot and got this: Booting [kernel]... /kernel text=0x1cf19e elf_loadexex: archsw.readin failed can't load 'kernel' But I can boot to kernel.GENERIC ideas folks ? Thanks, William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 10:39:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aries.postnet.com (aries.postnet.com [209.96.9.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D779F14E3D for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aries@aries.postnet.com) Received: from localhost (aries@localhost) by aries.postnet.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA74428; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from aries@aries.postnet.com) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:40:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Danny To: William Woods Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Kernel boot problems..... In-Reply-To: <000101be9c9c$4a664480$1a4b93cd@william> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the exact same problem. A 'make world' fixed it. Danny On Wed, 12 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > Running 3.1 -Release I just finished doing a : > > /usr/sbin/config William > then did ../../compile/William > make depend > make > make install > > did a reboot command to reboot and got this: > > Booting [kernel]... > /kernel text=0x1cf19e > elf_loadexex: archsw.readin failed > can't load 'kernel' > > > But I can boot to kernel.GENERIC > > ideas folks ? > > Thanks, > > William > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 10:49:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FB214DC0 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12696 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:49:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002101be9c9f$c4e49380$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:49:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Further: Another panic earlier today... The message was seen on the console as "panic....kernel trap 12" Syncing disks..... The system did not seem to writing anything to disk. Just sitting on the message syncing disk...... If the problem was in the scsi driver (cam) and the server was not able to write to disk... then there would be no message (in /var/log/messages) would there? I have checked .... no message.... and yet it was a panic, the system tried to sync disks and froze before rebooting. Any ideas? I recently updated to 3.1-Stable (10 May 1999) (this was a hopeful exercise) Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 11: 0:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D6D14D20 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA25876; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199905121759.KAA25876@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: andyo@prime.net.ua, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got 3.1! But some questions remains. In-Reply-To: <373955B2.D9DA3E07@prime.net.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:19:31 +0300 >From: "Andy V. Oleynik" >Today I've finished upgrade from 2.2.7-R to 3.1-S! >Q.1. during upgrade libc.so.3.1 was not installed. Instead of it >was installed libc.so.3 which I think will work with new apps >I will install. My aout libc.so.3.1 was moved in aout subdir. I would have *expected* that to go to /usr/lib/compat/aout; that's certainly where it is on my 3.1-R system(s). >I would like to use some of my old aouts so I've symlinked >aout version into /usr/lib. Now all my old aouts works fine. That ought not be necessary. (We load several 2.2-x-flavored programs via NFS and run them on 3.x-flavored systems.) >But after I'll install new (elf) software, there will be >definite conflict. How to avoid it in the future? Any refs? As above: the a.out-format libs go in compat/aout; the ELF ones don't. >Q.2. please give me mailing list archieve's URL. To not >disturb U guys :) I believe that "http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html" will serve you nicely. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 12:36:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558DE14DA9; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA21195; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.pa.dtd.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04386; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199905121935.PAA04386@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Fubar w/3.2-BETA Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:45 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not sure which list to send this to (-hackers, -stable, or -current), so I'll ship it to -stable, and let it sort itself out. Anyhow, I just ran 3.2-BETA (which SHOULD be stable), and hit a show stopper right after boot. I did a custom install (starting clean), went through the normal menus to set it up for an FTP install. Distributions were binaries, and a few others, but I don't think thats relevant to the problem. When I commited, it died claiming it couldn't make the parition enteries in /dev. Switching to the debug screen, the last few enteries were: DEBUG: Scanning disk wd0 for root filesystem DEBUG: Scanning disk wd0 for swap partitions DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1b DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1e DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1f Anyhow, looks like a sysinstall issue. I don't have any CVS repositories that I think I can look at for this, but it looks like its not processing the drive/partition name correctly. If anyone has any suggestions or corrections, let me know. I'm looking forward to trying 3.2. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 12:46:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C75A153C4 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23640; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:46:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3739DACB.2A970C13@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:47:23 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppbus broken in 3.1-RELEASE References: <199905121453.LAA18006@protheus.ravel.ufrj.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just wanted to add to my previous post: I did do this with an early version of 3.1-STABLE, and my HP printer still did not work properly. Itowrked better, but not perfectly. However, it does work with more recent versions of 3.1-STABLE. Before the lpt driver was completely removed, I used it with success. > ^ I had the same problem upgrading 2.2.8S->3.1R. The problem appears to be > ^ in the line: > ^ > ^ device ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 > ^ ^^^^^ > ^ If "tty" is changed to "net" (as it was in GENERIC, if I remember) then > ^ printer begins print some garbage ... Check that this flag is indeed > ^ "tty", should work perfectly after that. > > That seems to be problem. > It is working fine now. > > Thanks. > > ^ > ^ Regards, Gubarev Fedor. > ^ > > > > Rodolfo H G Faria > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 12:56:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76324153EB for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (chap-ppp0 [10.40.1.30]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA13106 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:56:40 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:48:39 +0100 Message-ID: <01be9cb0$6e508360$0101a8c0@greg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried a config -r & config -rg -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith To: Greg Quinlan Date: 12 May 1999 20:39 Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable >That is exactly the kind of problem that I fixed with a >config -r >when I was building the kernel. > >Greg Quinlan wrote: >> >> Further: >> >> Another panic earlier today... >> >> The message was seen on the console as "panic....kernel trap 12" >> Syncing disks..... >> >> The system did not seem to writing anything to disk. Just sitting on the >> message syncing disk...... >> If the problem was in the scsi driver (cam) and the server was not able to >> write to disk... then there >> would be no message (in /var/log/messages) would there? >> >> I have checked .... no message.... and yet it was a panic, the system tried >> to sync disks and froze before rebooting. >> >> Any ideas? >> I recently updated to 3.1-Stable (10 May 1999) >> (this was a hopeful exercise) >> >> Greg >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >-- > >Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu >307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu >Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu >University of Missouri-Columbia >Columbia, MO 65211 >USA > >Phone (573) 882 4540 >Fax (573) 882 1869 > >http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 13:33:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC2D14C21 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA32899; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990512133344.A32874@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:33:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppbus broken in 3.1-RELEASE Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199905121453.LAA18006@protheus.ravel.ufrj.br> <3739DACB.2A970C13@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3739DACB.2A970C13@math.missouri.edu>; from Stephen Montgomery-Smith on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 02:47:23PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > However, it does work with more recent versions of 3.1-STABLE. Before > the lpt driver was completely removed, I used it with success. Actually the older lpt driver wasn't removed, just pushed out of the way. If you use device olpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr -or maybe- device olpt0 at isa? port? tty and remove the 'lpt' associated with the 'ppc' you will get the older one. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 13:36: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9B115D9A for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from gronk (gronk.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA51781 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:35:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199905122035.PAA51781@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:26:05 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: What happenned to the INN-1.7.2 port?? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey guys, I just almost had my new news system ready to roll with INN 1.7.2 on 3.1-19990218-STABLE. I needed to change a config option and recompile but the INN port is now CVSupped to INN-2.2 and there is now an INN-STABLE but it's 2.2-stable. Enough stuff has changed in INN 2.2 that my Managing USENET book doesn't help much. Can I readd the old INN-1.7.2 port as maybe INN-1.7.2 in my ports tree somehow? Or do I get to go back to the 19990218-SNAP of -STABLE? Do I need to not follow -STABLE for production machines? I was hoping following -STABLE would improve the stability/security of my production machines. It's bit me in the *** twice this week. I started trying to keep -STABLE last week after thinking about it for several months before. Maybe tracking -STABLE requires that you have several years of *nix admin experience? I have about six months experience. Thanks in advance, Scott Lambert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 14:12:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599771504D; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA36811; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:12:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:12:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Brian McGovern Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-Reply-To: <199905121935.PAA04386@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Brian McGovern wrote: > I'm not sure which list to send this to (-hackers, -stable, or -current), so > I'll ship it to -stable, and let it sort itself out. > > Anyhow, I just ran 3.2-BETA (which SHOULD be stable), and hit a show stopper > right after boot. > > I did a custom install (starting clean), went through the normal menus to set > it up for an FTP install. Distributions were binaries, and a few others, but > I don't think thats relevant to the problem. > > When I commited, it died claiming it couldn't make the parition enteries in > /dev. Switching to the debug screen, the last few enteries were: > > DEBUG: Scanning disk wd0 for root filesystem > DEBUG: Scanning disk wd0 for swap partitions > DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1b > DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1e > DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1f > > Anyhow, looks like a sysinstall issue. I don't have any CVS > repositories that I think I can look at for this, but it looks > like its not processing the drive/partition name correctly. Here's a "me too" saying something might be just a little funky (but wasn't fatal, at least on my end) in sysinstall. I came across a similar glitch when trying to install 3.1-19990505-STABLE from releng3.freebsd.org yesterday (that was the latest 3.1 snapshot I could find on it). After I had labeled the disks and gone to commit everything, it told me I forgot to add swap (duh), so I went back into the label editor and fixed it up. Upon trying to commit everything again, it told me it couldn't add /dev/da0s1b and /dev/da1s1b as swap because the device nodes were missing (or it said _something_ to that effect). I didn't pay attention to anything it may have said on the debug console, sorry. I ended up starting completely over for some other reason and the next time around it worked without a hitch. 3.2-BETA as of last night (8:00 CDT) is now running fine on the Proliant 3000 with single PIII-500, 256MB RAM, three 9.1GB UW SCSI HDs on a Symbios Logic 53c876, 5 Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B's and one Dual Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (and might get one more PRO/100B installed soon). Just in case anybody wonders wether it works on this hardware. WorldStone(TM) was just under an hour. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 14:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BC51516D for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:50:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16000 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Possible to get sendmail config files separately? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the 2.x days, the sendmail configurations files used to come in a separate distribution. It looks like they're now rolled into the contrib source distribution. Are these available separately, or do you have to get all the contrib sources to get them? - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 14:54:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCA115086; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA25386; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.pa.dtd.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA04760; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199905122154.RAA04760@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: Chris Dillon Cc: Brian McGovern , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 16:12:46 CDT." Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:54:54 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You're one up on me. My errors were fatal, as it wouldn't allow the creation of the devices in /dev, thereby not allowing newfs to run, or even to mount them if I didn't newfs them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from step.everex.com (unknown [209.77.194.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B08415E64 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ninot@everex.com) Received: from orion005 (orion005.everex.com [209.77.194.25]) by step.everex.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA16750 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990512160920.00a5fce0@mail.everex.com> X-Sender: i004675@mail.everex.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:12:38 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Nino Tungul Subject: Password Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can somebody please help me. I forgot the super user password. how can i possibly change it? dont want to reinstall again. thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16: 9:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Homer.Web-Ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF87515146 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by Homer.Web-Ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07984; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:09:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Homer.Web-Ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: Nino Tungul Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512160920.00a5fce0@mail.everex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG reboot from console (CTRL-ALT-DEL if you have to) and type -s when you get the boot prompt. This will bring you into single user mode, where you can set the root passwd. you would not have to re-install, the worst case like this that I ever came across was on older linux boxes (1.0 kernels) where you would boot to floppy and mount the root partition as something else and edit the password file.11 Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 On Wed, 12 May 1999, Nino Tungul wrote: > > Can somebody please help me. I forgot the super user password. how can i > possibly change it? dont want to reinstall again. > > thanks. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:11: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com [24.5.122.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0F15146 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Received: from localhost (tbackman@localhost) by c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA07738; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tbackman@c523578-a.sttls1.wa.home.com) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Backman To: Nino Tungul Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512160920.00a5fce0@mail.everex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reboot to single user mode. On Wed, 12 May 1999, Nino Tungul wrote: > > Can somebody please help me. I forgot the super user password. how can i > possibly change it? dont want to reinstall again. > > thanks. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ========================================================================= Todd Backman "there are two major products that came out of berkley: Geek and FreeBSD user lsd and unix. Seattle, WA we don't believe this to be "The mountain is out!" a coincidence." j.s.anderson ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:20:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879D315675 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA05619 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:20:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA05587; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:19:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199905122319.SAA05587@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Password In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512160920.00a5fce0@mail.everex.com> from "Nino Tungul" at "May 12, 1999 4:12:38 pm" To: ninot@everex.com (Nino Tungul) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:19:28 -0500 (CDT) Cc: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, A few ideas: 1. If you haven't set the password to be used in a single-user mode (i.e. if you didn't set "insecure" for the console in /etc/ttys)- boot the computer into single-user mode (-s at the boot time ) mount the root partition (otherwise it is read-only) then the "FINAL" step below. 2. Boot from a floppy (e.g. install floppy, or may be fixit.flp), start a hologram shell. I think it should let you mount the root partition . then "FINAL" step below. 3. Install a minimum set of FreeBSD on a spare disc (binaries only), boot from it, and then mount the root partition of the "Main" installation. FINAL: edit /etc/master.passwd file, removing the password field from it for the root. Don't forget to run pwd-mkdb(8) after editing the /etc/master.passwd file. pwd-mkdb /path-to-mounted-partition/etc/master.passwd Hope that helps. Igor > Can somebody please help me. I forgot the super user password. how can i > possibly change it? dont want to reinstall again. > > thanks. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:21: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D9C15D05 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10893; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id QAA38455; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905122319.QAA38455@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: jobaldwi@vt.edu Cc: jbutt@mwci.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danny@pentalpha.com.hk In-reply-to: (message from John Baldwin on Wed, 12 May 1999 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: John Baldwin * days). It is -BETA so that 1) all the pre-built packages on the CD have 3.2 in * them, Just FYI, this is not necessary, as the package builder ran a make world thinking they are "3.2-RELEASE" machines. (Do you really want some packages proclaiming they are built on "-BETA"? :) -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:31: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4696215A2D; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA66749; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Brian McGovern Cc: Chris Dillon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 17:54:54 EDT." <199905122154.RAA04760@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:30:48 -0700 Message-ID: <66746.926551848@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is really weird; I can't reproduce this! I wonder if it's because my test box uses SCSI. Damn, time to dust off the IDE system I think. :) - Jordan > You're one up on me. My errors were fatal, as it wouldn't allow the creation > of the devices in /dev, thereby not allowing newfs to run, or even to mount > them if I didn't newfs them. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:43: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AADF15AF2 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:43:00 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: It's never done that before (AHC driver) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:42:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9cd1$2b2d4e80$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the basic gist of my SCSI controller and disk drive: ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.16.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4096MB (8388608 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) I have the BIOS set for slow transfers to this drive. The reason is not particularly important. And today it did this: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x15 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0x9 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Bus Device Reset on A:0. 31 SCBs aborted I'm tracking STABLE, running 3.2-BETA. I suppose it could be a hardware problem, but I've never had any such problem before. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:46:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F241714EDD; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02146; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905122344.QAA02146@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, pkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 16:30:48 PDT." <66746.926551848@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This is really weird; I can't reproduce this! > > I wonder if it's because my test box uses SCSI. Damn, time to dust > off the IDE system I think. :) > > - Jordan > > > You're one up on me. My errors were fatal, as it wouldn't allow the creation > > of the devices in /dev, thereby not allowing newfs to run, or even to mount > > them if I didn't newfs them. The error messages here really worry me: DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1b Something has corrrupted (or never set) the device prefix in the path entries in the disk chunk that's being fed to MakeDevDisk() here. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how this can happen though; it's meant to be maintained by libdisk... Brian, can you offer any more details on your install? Disk type? Prior disk layout, etc? I'd like to try to reproduce it if I can... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 16:54: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2813E15463; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02206; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905122351.QAA02206@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, pkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 16:44:47 PDT." <199905122344.QAA02146@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:51:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The error messages here really worry me: > > DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1b > > Something has corrrupted (or never set) the device prefix in the path > entries in the disk chunk that's being fed to MakeDevDisk() here. > I'm at a bit of a loss as to how this can happen though; it's meant to > be maintained by libdisk... > > Brian, can you offer any more details on your install? Disk type? > Prior disk layout, etc? I'd like to try to reproduce it if I can... Whoops, no, this is my fault. I screwed up the addition of 'ad' support in libdisk (why did I MFC this?). You'll want to try the next complete snapshot (unless Jordan wants to reroll libdisk), I've just committed the fix. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 17:12:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E02B15F17 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10hj72-0003pR-00; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:12:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:12:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: lambert@cswnet.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What happenned to the INN-1.7.2 port?? In-Reply-To: <199905122035.PAA51781@troi.csw.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > Enough stuff has changed in INN 2.2 that my Managing USENET book doesn't > help much. Can I readd the old INN-1.7.2 port as maybe INN-1.7.2 in my > ports tree somehow? Or do I get to go back to the 19990218-SNAP of > -STABLE? cvsup can be used to checkout source code as it was on a particular date. > Do I need to not follow -STABLE for production machines? I was hoping > following -STABLE would improve the stability/security of my production > machines. It's bit me in the *** twice this week. I started trying to > keep -STABLE last week after thinking about it for several months before. Yes, but there is no -stable for ports. -stable is purely a OS branch. The ports people only maintain one branch. I would watch the freebsd-ports lists if you want to cvsup the ports tree. > Maybe tracking -STABLE requires that you have several years of *nix admin > experience? I have about six months experience. > > Thanks in advance, > Scott Lambert Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 17:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rage.arpa.com (rage.arpa.com [199.245.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218B914DBF; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@rage.arpa.com) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by rage.arpa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12987; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:14:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:14:21 -0500 From: Jamie Rishaw To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Mike Smith , Seth , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG, jamie@exodus.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.1 remote reboot exploit (fwd) Message-ID: <19990512191420.A12813@rage.arpa.com> References: <199905040140.SAA01305@dingo.cdrom.com> <30986.925789368@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <30986.925789368@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, May 03, 1999 at 08:42:48PM -0700 X-No-Archive: Yes X-Face: d=) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Problem: FreeBSD kernel panics under SYN attack. Solution seems to be modifying: net.inet.ip.rtexpire: 12 net.inet.ip.rtminexpire: 10 Discuss. -jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 17:24:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lake1.lakefield.net (lake1.lakefield.net [198.70.64.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36459151EE for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aheffner@lakefield.net) Received: from enterprise.muriel.penguinpowered.com (strd-usr3-42.lakefield.net [206.40.103.46]) by lake1.lakefield.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA21961 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:24:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:24:44 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE9CAD.16E90DC0.aheffner@lakefield.net> From: Mike Heffner To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: kernel problem Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:24:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just the other day i remade my GENERIC kernel, as it was still in 2.2 land and wouldn't boot with 3.1. i also remade my custom kernel. now when i boot up i get this: elf_loadexec: /kernel text=0x159eca archsw.readin failed I've read other responses to this problem, but my kernel.GENERIC and kernel.old also give the same error. can i reinstall a new kernel from the boot disks, and how? or can i rebuild the boot loader to work with the new kernel? Thanks, Mike Heffner aheffner@lakefield.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 19:53: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E2A15E7D; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00567; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: dg@root.com, Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-Reply-To: <199905121459.HAA27314@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've added "options DEBUG_LOCKS" to my kernel, and added the following code. I'll post any interesting log messages that I see over the next day or so. If I've done something terribly wrong that will hose my system, please email me! Hacking locking code makes me a bit nervous. Here's the diff to kern_lock.c I just added - someone in the know please review this, and email if I need to add more instrumentation: *** kern_lock.c-orig Tue May 11 22:53:19 1999 --- kern_lock.c Wed May 12 19:45:59 1999 *************** *** 229,236 **** LK_WANT_UPGRADE ); } ! if (error) ! break; sharelock(lkp, 1); COUNT(p, 1); break; --- 229,248 ---- LK_WANT_UPGRADE ); } ! ! /* we will fall through and grant the lock after printing info */ ! if (error) { ! if ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && ! (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { ! printf("deadlocktreat=%d, flags=0x%x\n", ! p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT, ! extflags); ! lockmgr_printinfo(lkp); ! /* fall through to grant lock */ ! } else { ! break; ! } ! } sharelock(lkp, 1); COUNT(p, 1); break; On Wed, 12 May 1999, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > Would plan B risk corruption of any data? Could itself be the likely > cause of any potential panics? > > Assuming plan B has no major risks, this might be a temporary > workaround until we can wrap our minds around this one. It's just a > rework of Luoqi's patch, just in case we want to try plan B again. > > --- kern_lock.c.orig Tue May 11 08:34:52 1999 > +++ kern_lock.c Wed May 12 05:38:52 1999 > @@ -215,7 +215,9 @@ > * lock itself ). > */ > if (lkp->lk_lockholder != pid) { > - if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { > + if ((p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) || > + ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && > + (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { > error = acquire( > lkp, > extflags, > > If this workaround doesn't work, then setting error = 0 and allowing > the code to fall through to the subsequent sharelock may be our only > choice for now. > > The other point I wish to make for all on this list is that Matt's > patch fixes a read()/mmap() deadlock. It doesn't fix a write()/mmap() > deadlock. > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Province of BC > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > In message <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > writes: > > >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the > > >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that > > >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. > > > > Time is very short for getting this fixed before the release deadline. I > > think Luoqi's patch that was in the PR was suseptible to a priority inversion > > problem and has risks associated with using it. The fix that Matt Dillion > > made for -current that I back-ported to -stable was an attempt to fix the > > problem while minimizing the side effects. If it doesn't fix the problem > > then we'll proceed with plan B which is probably to just go with Luoqi's > > fix or to possibly troubleshoot Matt's fix (but as I said, time is short). > > > > >Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, > > >no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. > > > > > >An unhappy freebsd user once again, > > > > Is this really necessary? It sure doesn't help the debugging process. > > > > -DG > > > > David Greenman > > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 20:33:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0707314DAB; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA39242; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:33:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:33:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brian McGovern , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-Reply-To: <66746.926551848@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > This is really weird; I can't reproduce this! > > I wonder if it's because my test box uses SCSI. Damn, time to dust > off the IDE system I think. :) The minor oddity I experienced did happen on a SCSI system. Just in an attempt to reproduce this, I'll wipe off what I've already put on the box and install the latest 3.2-BETA snapshot on it (I'm just playing with it right now anyway). This time, I'll document every move. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 20:58:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF514D91; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA69128; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:58:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990512205853.A69103@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:58:53 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , jobaldwi@vt.edu Cc: jbutt@mwci.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danny@pentalpha.com.hk Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199905122319.QAA38455@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905122319.QAA38455@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 04:19:09PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just FYI, this is not necessary, as the package builder ran a make > world thinking they are "3.2-RELEASE" machines. This time. :-)) It is also useful for port maintainers to see if their GNU autoconfig'ed ports still build, before being yelled at by the Ports Wraith. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 21:16:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voicenet.com (mail12.voicenet.com [207.103.0.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B7391544D for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schwenk@voicenet.com) Received: (qmail 20062 invoked from network); 13 May 1999 04:16:29 -0000 Received: from delaware129-pri.de.voicenet.com (HELO voicenet.com) (207.103.18.93) by mail12.voicenet.com with SMTP; 13 May 1999 04:16:29 -0000 Message-ID: <373A5264.C568B85C@voicenet.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:17:40 -0400 From: Peter Schwenk Organization: Schwenk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello: I just wanted to let the developers know that I have trouble printing with the 3.2-BETA kernel using the GENERIC configuration file. I print Postscript to my HP LJ4L using Ghostscript. Without the "fix" described below, the printing turns to crap about 3cm down the page. Printing just plain text also runs into trouble, but less dramatically. I've been having this trouble since 3.1-R (I never tried 3.0). The problem goes away by changing the device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 line to device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 tty irq 7 I don't know what the "tty" or "net" parts do. This change was discussed in -questions a bit after 3.1-RELEASE was released. I just wanted to let you folks know just in case you want to include the change in the 3.2-RELEASE. - Peter Schwenk - schwenk@voicenet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 21:18:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD7714FB8 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 21:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA42126; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:17:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA26127; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:18:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905130418.WAA26127@harmony.village.org> To: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "12 May 1999 07:29:14 PDT." <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> References: <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:18:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Frank McConnell writes: : SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! : (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out : (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out I've never used aha on the SMP machine. Usually this error is an indication that one of two things. First one is a termination error. The second is a IRQ/DRQ mismatch. Usually a termination. : Figuring that the "create_intr" message above might have something to : do with my explicitly configuring irq 11 in the config file (as that's : how the card is set), I changed the irq in the config file to ? and : rebuilt. No difference. Haven't tried changing the card's irq to : something other than 11 yet, but I think irq 11 is available for this : use. Suggestions of other things to look at and do would be welcome : but I won't get to them 'til tonight. The aha driver will read the settings from the card, so I doubt this is the problem. I use the 1542CP and a 1542CF. The CP is always in my gateway machine and works fairly well. The driver doesn't use the hardware status bits that can tell if the cable configuration is illegal, nor does it tell you if the termination is bad. Plug and play is poorly supported. It seems that works sometimes. However, I've had reports of problems which I've been unable to recreate here. I have firmware F.0. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 22:28:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDEF14D91; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01555; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: dg@root.com, Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had to back this out for 2 reasons: 1) options DEBUG_LOCKS changes the size of the proc structure, which mean "ps" and "w" will not work without a compile. I don't understand the proper use of this flag, so I'm not going to try. 2) After looking more deeply into the suggestion at checking the error return, I now realize that an error is probably not returned. Instead the thread will most likely just go to sleep. I thought of using a LK_NOWAIT, but that will not work and will return right off the bat. I looked into LK_SLEEPFAIL to give it a chance at the lock, but I'm seeing that the majority of locks are created with a 0 timeout value so no luck there. I thought of setting the LK_SLEEPFAIL, and mucking with the timeout on the lock structure itself before calling acquire. This is a little beyond my experience with FreeBSD kernel hacking. I'll wait until someone familiar with the code gives me a bit of advice on this. Any takers? I'm also thinking that a generic deadlock detector could be placed as debug code in the acquire/apause procedure. It would be impossible to catch complex ones, but simple ones could only be a little work. I'm going to look into that in the next couple days after I learn a bit more about the structure of the kernel. I hate to admit that most of my kernel hacking was in network drivers and the VM system for solaris 2.x (where x <= 3), along with a bit of SCSI work on 4.0.3. It has been a while. So many things, so little time, Cliff On Wed, 12 May 1999, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > I've added "options DEBUG_LOCKS" to my kernel, and added the following code. > I'll post any interesting log messages that I see over the next day or so. > > If I've done something terribly wrong that will hose my system, please email > me! Hacking locking code makes me a bit nervous. > > > Here's the diff to kern_lock.c I just added - someone in the know please > review this, and email if I need to add more instrumentation: > > *** kern_lock.c-orig Tue May 11 22:53:19 1999 > --- kern_lock.c Wed May 12 19:45:59 1999 > *************** > *** 229,236 **** > LK_WANT_UPGRADE > ); > } > ! if (error) > ! break; > sharelock(lkp, 1); > COUNT(p, 1); > break; > --- 229,248 ---- > LK_WANT_UPGRADE > ); > } > ! > ! /* we will fall through and grant the lock after printing info */ > ! if (error) { > ! if ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && > ! (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { > ! printf("deadlocktreat=%d, flags=0x%x\n", > ! p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT, > ! extflags); > ! lockmgr_printinfo(lkp); > ! /* fall through to grant lock */ > ! } else { > ! break; > ! } > ! } > sharelock(lkp, 1); > COUNT(p, 1); > break; > > > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > Would plan B risk corruption of any data? Could itself be the likely > > cause of any potential panics? > > > > Assuming plan B has no major risks, this might be a temporary > > workaround until we can wrap our minds around this one. It's just a > > rework of Luoqi's patch, just in case we want to try plan B again. > > > > --- kern_lock.c.orig Tue May 11 08:34:52 1999 > > +++ kern_lock.c Wed May 12 05:38:52 1999 > > @@ -215,7 +215,9 @@ > > * lock itself ). > > */ > > if (lkp->lk_lockholder != pid) { > > - if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { > > + if ((p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) || > > + ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && > > + (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { > > error = acquire( > > lkp, > > extflags, > > > > If this workaround doesn't work, then setting error = 0 and allowing > > the code to fall through to the subsequent sharelock may be our only > > choice for now. > > > > The other point I wish to make for all on this list is that Matt's > > patch fixes a read()/mmap() deadlock. It doesn't fix a write()/mmap() > > deadlock. > > > > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > > Province of BC > > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > > > In message <199905120755.AAA01361@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > > writes: > > > >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the > > > >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that > > > >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. > > > > > > Time is very short for getting this fixed before the release deadline. I > > > think Luoqi's patch that was in the PR was suseptible to a priority inversion > > > problem and has risks associated with using it. The fix that Matt Dillion > > > made for -current that I back-ported to -stable was an attempt to fix the > > > problem while minimizing the side effects. If it doesn't fix the problem > > > then we'll proceed with plan B which is probably to just go with Luoqi's > > > fix or to possibly troubleshoot Matt's fix (but as I said, time is short). > > > > > > >Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, > > > >no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. > > > > > > > >An unhappy freebsd user once again, > > > > > > Is this really necessary? It sure doesn't help the debugging process. > > > > > > -DG > > > > > > David Greenman > > > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > > > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain > Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty > cliff@steam.com | nor safety." > http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 23:33:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9A9153A0 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11323; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id XAA39752; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905130633.XAA39752@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: jobaldwi@vt.edu, jbutt@mwci.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, danny@pentalpha.com.hk In-reply-to: <19990512205853.A69103@nuxi.com> (obrien@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: cvsup problem in 3.1 stable From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <199905122319.QAA38455@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990512205853.A69103@nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: "David O'Brien" * It is also useful for port maintainers to see if their GNU autoconfig'ed * ports still build, before being yelled at by the Ports Wraith. Oh gosh, I was allowed to yell at people for that? Dang. :) -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 0:28:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE661546C for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id QAA13537; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:58:26 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA16332; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:09 +0930 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:05 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: FS Subject: Re: Got 3.1! But some questions remains. In-Reply-To: <373955B2.D9DA3E07@prime.net.ua> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Today I've finished upgrade from 2.2.7-R to 3.1-S! Congratulations! Although 3.2 is just about to be released in a few days (essentially just the cleaned-up snapshot of the 3.1-stable branch). There have been a lot of changes merged from -current lately, so it may be worth your while to upgrade again once it comes out. > SUBJ: > > Q.1. during upgrade libc.so.3.1 was not installed. Instead of it > > was installed libc.so.3 which I think will work with new apps > > I will install. My aout libc.so.3.1 was moved in aout subdir. Correct - ELF libs have only a single extension (libfoo.so.x instead of libfoo.so.x.y) > > I would like to use some of my old aouts so I've symlinked > > aout version into /usr/lib. Now all my old aouts works fine. > > But after I'll install new (elf) software, there will be > > definite conflict. How to avoid it in the future? Any refs? This should be unnecessary - /usr/lib/aout should be in the ldconfig path for aout libraries, so dynamically-linked a.out binaries should look here by default. If this isn't the case, check to make sure you have upgraded everything in /etc (not just 'make world', which doesn't touch /etc). The mergemaster port is very good for helping merge changes. This is an essential part of an upgrade, especially if you're jumping over a period of a month or more in your OS versions. Kris ----- "That suit's sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde witticisms that's been rolled up into a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" "Wow, that's sharp!" - Ace Rimmer and the Cat, _Red Dwarf_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 0:58:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buddha.ghandi.cx (resnet0192.unm.edu [129.24.180.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6985914D5B for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 00:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghandi@ghandi.cx) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by buddha.ghandi.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B27A11F for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:58:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:58:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Dino Dai Zovi To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: timeout flushing dbuf_out, ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After making world on May 12, my sound card has been having some problems. Some programs (mpg123, x11amp) don't play any sound at all, while some others play sound but are cut short. These messages are sent to syslog: May 13 01:32:55 buddha /kernel: timeout flushing dbuf_out, chan 5 cnt 0xff00 fla gs 0x000001c1 AFAIK, I did not change anything between make worlds (not kernel conf, hardware, etc). My previous system was built on April 16. My sound card is a SoundBlaster 16 isa (old style, not PnP). I have the following in my kernel config: device pcm0 at isa ? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 and this is displayed at boot: buddha /kernel: pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa These values are what I used previously which worked fine (except for a this printed to syslog when using x11amp: buddha /kernel: sorry, read DMA channel unavailable ) I looked around the Web CVS repository for files that recently changed, but no recent changes looked as if they would do this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -Dino --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dino A. Dai Zovi "The world grasps after systems, ghandi@mindless.com and is imprisoned in dogmas." http://www.ghandi.cx -Buddha --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 1:18:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A914D27 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06218 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:33:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37399F62.BC646547@prime.net.ua> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:33:54 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FS Subject: mergemaster did nothing problem seems not problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In previous messages I wrote that mergemaster didnt changes for me. But I've forgotten that my new sources is in separate from /usr/src (old 2.2.7-R) place. So I'm going to temporary rename old /usr/src and symlynk my new 3.1 src tree to /usr/src and restart mergemaster. I think things'll go right :) -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 1:47: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35BF15419 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA39109; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:46:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002701be9d1d$192944e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:46:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is the best I can do, since it was written down by someone non technical in "short-hand" before it rebooted. NO messages in /var/log/messages Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fatal virtual address: 0x0 fatal code = supervisor read page not present instruction pointer = ....... stack pointer = ....... frame pointer = ...... code segment = base 0x0 limit 0xfffff current process = 14802 interupt mask trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks................ -----Original Message----- From: Andy V. Oleynik To: Greg Quinlan Date: 13 May 1999 07:55 Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable >I've not such complicated hardware+software environment. >So my attempts may lead to no result. But isnt there some >aiming messages just before PANIC in ur /var/log/messages >or other logs? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 1:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8AA1543B for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA39768 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:55:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002801be9d1e$585ca980$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.1 remote reboot exploit (fwd) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:55:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would like to know more Greg -----Original Message----- From: Jamie Rishaw To: Jordan K. Hubbard Cc: Mike Smith ; Seth ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG ; security@FreeBSD.ORG ; jamie@exodus.net Date: 13 May 1999 01:24 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.1 remote reboot exploit (fwd) >Problem: FreeBSD kernel panics under SYN attack. > >Solution seems to be modifying: > >net.inet.ip.rtexpire: 12 >net.inet.ip.rtminexpire: 10 > >Discuss. > >-jamie > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 1:57:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.sim.com.pl (unix.sim.com.pl [195.117.85.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042415576 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gawel@unix.sim.com.pl) Received: from unix.sim.com.pl (pawel.sim.com.pl [192.168.1.20]) by unix.sim.com.pl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03335 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:59:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gawel@unix.sim.com.pl) Message-ID: <373A937E.454ECAD1@unix.sim.com.pl> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:55:26 +0200 From: Gawel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: How to remoteboot 3.1 kernel? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible to remote boot 3.1-Stable kernel on diskless workstation? I am successfully booting 2.2.8 kernel. Using 3.1 kernel I receive Bad executable format! Could you help me how to patch /usr/src/i386/boot/netboot files from 3.1-Stable to remote boot 3.1 kernel? With regards, Gawel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 2:13:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1211543B; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01419; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:10:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:10:25 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@freebsd.org, pkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-Reply-To: <199905122351.QAA02206@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > The error messages here really worry me: > > > > DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype 0s1b > > > > Something has corrrupted (or never set) the device prefix in the path > > entries in the disk chunk that's being fed to MakeDevDisk() here. > > I'm at a bit of a loss as to how this can happen though; it's meant to > > be maintained by libdisk... > > > > Brian, can you offer any more details on your install? Disk type? > > Prior disk layout, etc? I'd like to try to reproduce it if I can... > > Whoops, no, this is my fault. I screwed up the addition of 'ad' > support in libdisk (why did I MFC this?). > > You'll want to try the next complete snapshot (unless Jordan wants to > reroll libdisk), I've just committed the fix. I think it was me that MFC'ed libdisk (I needed all the alpha fixes). I saw the 'ad' bit but I didn't think it could possibly cause problems. Obviously I was wrong :-( -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 2:54:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C8A150E3 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02550 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 02:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: help w/ deadlock avoiding code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could someone please take a look at the following patch to kern_lock.c and tell me if I am insane. I'd like to help find/fix the deadlock problem ASAP. The following code hopefully will limit the time on the sleepq to 10 seconds for a shared lock if there is another holder of a shared lock and LK_CANRECURSE is set. After 10 seconds the shared lock will be granted, even if there are waiting upgrade or exclusive requests. There is a bit of uglyness in how I pass the request type down to acquire, but then again this is to debug only. The code compiles, but I am not running this kernel. Hopefully this will work around the problem while gathering data to figure out what is really happening. I also would like to point out that the commited patch adds a dereference to "p" in the LK_SHARED case. The COUNT() macro checks for NULL, and there is a check against NULL at the top of the function. It just caught my eye, don't know enough to gauge if this is a real problem. Cliff PS if this thread should be moved to freebsd-hackers I'll join that list. *** /sys/kern/kern_lock.c-orig Tue May 11 22:53:19 1999 --- kern_lock.c Thu May 13 02:48:54 1999 *************** *** 41,46 **** --- 41,48 ---- * $Id: kern_lock.c,v 1.23.2.1 1999/05/11 07:54:18 dg Exp $ */ + #define CCS + #include "opt_lint.h" #include *************** *** 48,53 **** --- 50,59 ---- #include #include + #ifdef CCS + #include + #endif CCS + /* * Locking primitives implementation. * Locks provide shared/exclusive sychronization. *************** *** 123,132 **** --- 129,154 ---- return 1; } + static int acquire(struct lock *lkp, int extflags, int wanted) { int s, error; + #ifdef CCS + #define LK_DEADCHECK 10 + + int isshared = 0; + int deadlockavoid = 0; + struct timeval deadlocktime; + + /* + * This is ugly, quick and dirty way to pass in the request. This is + * only to debug. + */ + isshared = extflags & LK_SHARED; + extflags &= ~LK_SHARED; + + #endif CCS if ((extflags & LK_NOWAIT) && (lkp->lk_flags & wanted)) { return EBUSY; } *************** *** 137,148 **** --- 159,190 ---- return 0; } + #ifdef CCS + if ((isshared != 0) && + (lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) && + (extflags & LK_CANRECURSE)) { + deadlockavoid = 1; + getmicrotime(&deadlocktime); + } + #endif CCS + s = splhigh(); while ((lkp->lk_flags & wanted) != 0) { lkp->lk_flags |= LK_WAIT_NONZERO; lkp->lk_waitcount++; simple_unlock(&lkp->lk_interlock); + #ifdef CCS + if ((deadlockavoid == 0) || + ((lkp->lk_timo > 0) && (lkp->lk_timo < LK_DEADCHECK*hz))) { + error = tsleep(lkp, lkp->lk_prio, lkp->lk_wmesg, + lkp->lk_timo); + } else { + error = tsleep(lkp, lkp->lk_prio, lkp->lk_wmesg, + LK_DEADCHECK*hz); + } + #else CCS error = tsleep(lkp, lkp->lk_prio, lkp->lk_wmesg, lkp->lk_timo); + #endif CCS simple_lock(&lkp->lk_interlock); if (lkp->lk_waitcount == 1) { lkp->lk_flags &= ~LK_WAIT_NONZERO; *************** *** 158,163 **** --- 200,230 ---- splx(s); return ENOLCK; } + #ifdef CCS + /* if the lock is still held and deadlock avoiding */ + if ((lkp->lk_flags & wanted) != 0 && + deadlockavoid != 0) { + struct timeval curtime; + + /* looked safe to call at a hight spl */ + getmicrotime(&curtime); + + if ((curtime.tv_sec - deadlocktime.tv_sec) > + LK_DEADCHECK) { + + splx(s); /* drop the priority while printing */ + + /* waited long enough, grant the request now + if no one has an exclusive lock */ + + printf("lock request modified\n"); + lockmgr_printinfo(lkp); + s = splhigh(); + + wanted &= ~(LK_WANT_EXCL | LK_WANT_UPGRADE); + } + } + #endif CCS } splx(s); return 0; *************** *** 218,230 **** --- 285,307 ---- if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { error = acquire( lkp, + #ifdef CCS + /* ugly, but overload the parameter by adding in the LK_SHARED bit */ + extflags | LK_SHARED, + #else CCS extflags, + #endif LK_HAVE_EXCL ); } else { error = acquire( lkp, + #ifdef CCS + /* ugly again, as above */ + extflags | LK_SHARED, + #else CCS extflags, + #endif LK_HAVE_EXCL | LK_WANT_EXCL | LK_WANT_UPGRADE ); -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 5:25:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABB814BF9 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 05:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: (from netch@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.Who.Cares/Guinness_Is_Better) id PAA03403; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:25:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:25:37 +0300 (EEST) From: Valentin Nechayev Message-Id: <199905131225.PAA03403@burka.carrier.kiev.ua> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm problem? In-Reply-To: Organization: Lucky Netch Incorporated User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980226 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-RELEASE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IMHO this problem was solved by sys/vm/vm_fault.c patch in kern/8416 followup by Luoqi Chen, which was ported to -stable branch a few days ago. This problem also was described in kern/10226; I think it can be closed too. But, more careful tests are needed. Andy Farkas wrote: AF> Is anyone else seeing this? AF> On a 3.1-STABLE (Apr 14 1999) system, the following causes a vm lockup: AF> $ find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & AF> $ find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & AF> (ie. the same find command twice put in background... as a normal user) -- -- Valentin Nechayev netch@lucky.net II:LDXIII/MCMLXXII.CCC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 6:35:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE5014DB3; Thu, 13 May 1999 06:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA07641; Thu, 13 May 1999 06:36:44 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07639; Thu May 13 06:36:38 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA32197; Thu, 13 May 1999 06:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905131334.GAA32197@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdO32193; Thu May 13 06:34:31 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: Doug Rabson , Mats Lofkvist , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, bde@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 21:01:11 +0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 06:34:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" writes: > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > speed Read Write > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 I don't think that this is an NFS issue. You'll generally find that write local filesystem performance of FreeBSD is slower on FreeBSD than on Linux. Linux filesystems are written asynchronously while FreeBSD by default writes metadata synchronously (SMD). SMD (Synchronous Metadata) writes are not the same as synchronous writes (all writes to the filesystem being synchronous) -- sync option on the mount command. IIRC, Bruce Evans made the comment last year that by mounting a filesystem async, he had an incredible performance improvement. I'm sorry I cannot recall the actual percentage of performance improvement. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 7:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C0D14F98 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA47241; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905130418.WAA26127@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The plot took an interesting twist in my case yesterday. The box that fails is a PPro 200 with a 1542C FW Rev. 0.1 (ID=44) and a 2940UW in it. I stuck an identical 1542 in a P133 with no other controllers and it works fine with the identical source. (NFS mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj, installed the world and built a kernel.) I'm beginning to suspect that the two different controllers in the Pro may be causing my problem. When I get time I'll pull the 2940 out and see what happens. On May 12 Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Frank > McConnell writes: > : SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > : (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out > : (probe15:aha0:0:0:0) CCB 0xc7f51508 - timed out > > I've never used aha on the SMP machine. Usually this error is an > indication that one of two things. First one is a termination error. > The second is a IRQ/DRQ mismatch. Usually a termination. > > : Figuring that the "create_intr" message above might have something to > : do with my explicitly configuring irq 11 in the config file (as that's > : how the card is set), I changed the irq in the config file to ? and > : rebuilt. No difference. Haven't tried changing the card's irq to > : something other than 11 yet, but I think irq 11 is available for this > : use. Suggestions of other things to look at and do would be welcome > : but I won't get to them 'til tonight. > > The aha driver will read the settings from the card, so I doubt this > is the problem. I use the 1542CP and a 1542CF. The CP is always in > my gateway machine and works fairly well. > > The driver doesn't use the hardware status bits that can tell if the > cable configuration is illegal, nor does it tell you if the > termination is bad. Plug and play is poorly supported. It seems that > works sometimes. However, I've had reports of problems which I've > been unable to recreate here. > > I have firmware F.0. > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 7:29:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rmx09.globecomm.net (rmx09.iname.net [165.251.8.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA82014F98 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lordportico@iname.com) Received: from weba1.iname.net by rmx09.globecomm.net (8.9.1/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA03674 ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:29:08 -0400 (EDT) From: lordportico@iname.com Received: (from root@localhost) by weba1.iname.net (8.9.1a/8.9.2.Alpha2) id KAA29682; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:29:07 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9905131029075S.19435@weba1.iname.net> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.1-stable make world and kernel compile problems Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there... I'm running FreeBSD 3.1-stable, and am unable to make the world or make a new kernel. I've had this problem every time i tried to make the world for the last week or so... When i try to make the world, it runs for a while, then gives me this error message: ===> libexec/bootpd cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DETC_ETHERS -DSYSLOG -DDEBUG -DVEND_CMU -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/libexec/bootpd/bootpd.c In file included from /usr/src/libexec/bootpd/bootpd.c:87: /usr/src/libexec/bootpd/dovend.h:1: parse error at null character /usr/src/libexec/bootpd/bootpd.c: In function `sendreply': /usr/src/libexec/bootpd/bootpd.c:1088: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I cvsup-ed last night around 11pm pacific time Problem 2: When i try to build a new kernel, (config -r TERU, cd ../../compile/TERU, make depend, make, make install), i get this error message while trying to make the kernel: In file included from ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:65: machine/ultrasound.h:1: parse error before character 0300 ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:478: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_initialize': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:809: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:809: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:809: for each function it appears in.) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_note_on': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1303: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_exclusive_off': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1388: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_set_pitch': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1406: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_set_pan': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1489: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_calc_pitch': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1587: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_calc_pitch_from_freq': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1646: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_calc_volume': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1699: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_kill_note': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:1988: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_start_note': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2047: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_set_instr': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2174: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_hw_gus_control': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2234: `_GUS_NUMVOICES' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2246: `_GUS_VOICESAMPLE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2250: `_GUS_VOICEBALA' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2255: `_GUS_VOICEVOL' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2256: `_GUS_VOICEVOL2' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2260: `_GUS_RAMPRANGE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2261: `_GUS_RAMPRATE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2262: `_GUS_RAMPMODE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2263: `_GUS_RAMPON' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2264: `_GUS_RAMPOFF' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2268: `_GUS_VOLUME_SCALE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2271: `_GUS_VOICE_POS' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2277: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2283: `_GUS_VOICEON' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2287: `_GUS_VOICEOFF' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2293: `_GUS_VOICEFADE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2299: `_GUS_VOICEFREQ' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2302: warning: unreachable code at beginning of switch statement ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_hw_awe_control': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2337: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_aftertouch': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2458: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_controller': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2495: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_panning': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2615: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_volume_method': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2626: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_bender': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:2659: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_load_guspatch': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:3344: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_setup_voice': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:3809: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_mixer_ioctl': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:3844: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_init_fm': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:4124: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_detect_base': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:4283: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_detect': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:4295: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c: In function `awe_check_dram': ../../gnu/i386/isa/sound/awe_wave.c:4354: `debug_mode' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. I have the sound support in the kernel set up to work properly with my AWE64 Gold card, using the voxware sound drivers. I should be able to remove the sound drivers and have it work, but I haven't tried this yet... (I like having sound) Any solution to these two problems? Thanks Adam --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 7:56:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mate.kjsl.com (Mate.KJSL.COM [204.87.183.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE814DD0 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc@reanimators.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mate.kjsl.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id HAA18233; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fmc@localhost) by daemonweed.reanimators.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00961; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc) Message-Id: <199905131443.HAA00961@daemonweed.reanimators.org> To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? References: <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> <199905130418.WAA26127@harmony.village.org> From: Frank McConnell Date: 13 May 1999 07:43:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: Warner Losh's message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 22:18:21 -0600" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > I've never used aha on the SMP machine. Usually this error is an > indication that one of two things. First one is a termination error. > The second is a IRQ/DRQ mismatch. Usually a termination. I thought about termination before writing, but the cabling is the same cabling that it had when it was in the 2.2.1-STABLE box, I thought it was terminated properly (but does the 1542CP do auto-termination on its internal connector if there's nothing connected there? -- can't find TFM), I've been over it just in case I wiggled a connector loose during the box swap, and I've replaced a 6' cable with a 3' just in case. No joy doing that. But this morning I changed the card's idea of its IRQ to 9 and it all works with no "create_intr" complaint. I'm guessing that IRQ 11 was falling foul of (and being changed to -1 by) the "#ifdef APIC_IO" code just before the call to register_intr() in config_isadev_c(), but as I'm not sure what is going on in that code I think I'm just going to rejoice and do a backup now that I can get to my tape drive. > The driver doesn't use the hardware status bits that can tell if the > cable configuration is illegal, nor does it tell you if the > termination is bad. Plug and play is poorly supported. It seems that > works sometimes. However, I've had reports of problems which I've > been unable to recreate here. OK, here's a couple of additional data points: plug and play is disabled on this card, and this is all now plugged into a Tyan S1832DL "Tiger 100" motherboard with two CPUs. -Frank McConnell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 8: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF1514EED for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:05:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12753 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13231 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04510 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199905131504.IAA04510@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: potential inetd heap corruptor found Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I finally got bit by the inetd malloc bug on a newly upgrade 3.1-STABLE machine a couple weeks ago. Of course, it only happened right after the first boot and was totally unreproduceable. I finally had some time last night to try to track down the problem. I went after inetd and the libraries it was using with the bc-gcc and turned up a bug in login_class() that has the potential to corrupt the heap. See PR bin/11687 for more information and a patch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 8:12:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F33C14CA0 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 50074 invoked by uid 1003); 13 May 1999 15:12:32 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 1999 15:12:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: jack Cc: Warner Losh , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, jack wrote: > The plot took an interesting twist in my case yesterday. The box > that fails is a PPro 200 with a 1542C FW Rev. 0.1 (ID=44) and a > 2940UW in it. I stuck an identical 1542 in a P133 with no other > controllers and it works fine with the identical source. (NFS > mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj, installed the world and built a > kernel.) I'm beginning to suspect that the two different > controllers in the Pro may be causing my problem. When I get > time I'll pull the 2940 out and see what happens. > I also have a 2940: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da0: 8683MB (17783204 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) and a 1542: aha0 at 0x130-0x133 irq 10 drq 6 on isa aha0: AHA-1542CP FW Rev. F.0 (ID=46) SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 16 CCBs cd0 at aha0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 5.000MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present cd1 at aha0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd1: 3.300MB/s transfers cd1: cd present [234280 x 2048 byte records] and get: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed (probe18:aha0:0:3:0): CCB 0xc56c233c - timed out (probe18:aha0:0:3:0): CCB 0xc56c233c - timed out aha0: No longer in timeout This is from -stable cvsupped at 8:30 EDT... I've tried longer longer SCSI_DELAY's, different IRQ's, DMA's, termination is correct (term on the board (not auto-termination), last device termed)) to no avail. My (lack of) understanding of ahafetchtransinfo is that it queries the card for syncronous transfers. I tried removing my CDR (cd1) and did not get this error. cd1 does 3.300MB/s transfers (plain SCSI-1, no synchronous) whereas cd0 does do synchronous transfers. Is this possibly a problem (for lack of a better word) with the routine querying about sync when a device doesn't support it? What devices are other people using that might be similiar (or possibly a lack of devices)? Regards, Chris D. Faulhaber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 8:16:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1569514CA0; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07260; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:16:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:16:19 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Peter Schwenk , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing In-Reply-To: <373A5264.C568B85C@voicenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Peter Schwenk wrote: > I just wanted to let the developers know that I have trouble printing > with the 3.2-BETA kernel using the GENERIC configuration file. I print ... > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 > > line to > > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 tty irq 7 This still hasn't been resolved? If not, we have taken one step forward and two steps back with respect to parallel ports. What is the rational of choosing net over tty in GENERIC? The net option has caused a lot of grief among people who want to print. If it changes to tty, what breaks (and who will that inconvenience)? -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 9:13:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from noc.demon.net (server.noc.demon.net [193.195.224.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1211614D25 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: by noc.demon.net; id RAA05823; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net(195.11.55.83) by inside.noc.demon.net via smap (3.2) id xmaa05801; Thu, 13 May 99 17:13:16 +0100 Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 1.73 #2) id 10hy6h-0003dJ-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:13:11 +0100 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Tony Finch Subject: Re: 3.1-stable make world and kernel compile problems In-Reply-To: <9905131029075S.19435@weba1.iname.net> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:13:11 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG lordportico@iname.com wrote: > >I'm running FreeBSD 3.1-stable, and am unable to make the world or >make a new kernel. I've had this problem every time i tried to make >the world for the last week or so... I have had no problems of this sort and I update & build the world every night. From these errors: >/usr/src/libexec/bootpd/dovend.h:1: parse error at null character >machine/ultrasound.h:1: parse error before character 0300 it looks like you have file corruption problems. You can either track down the problem files one-by-one and delete them before cvsupping or just nuke the lot and download again. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net black dog To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 10:20:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC06A15293 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA68532; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:20:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <008201be9d64$de7ee0a0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:20:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG They should be in /var/log/messages.... ? But I have searched and nothing! Is there some way I can delay the reboot process; so that some one can write down a proper message when it happens again? ps. no PANIC all day today :) Greg -----Original Message----- From: Andy V. Oleynik To: Greg Quinlan Date: 13 May 1999 11:56 Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable >AFAIK the reason of PANIC was the kernel's attempt to read mem page >from RAM or swap, & this page must been present either in RAM or swap, >but it wasnt. I think it's vm trouble. >But I was rather interested in that log lines preceeding the "Fatal >trap" >message. Do U have them? >Greg Quinlan wrote: > >> This is the best I can do, since it was written down by someone non >> technical in "short-hand" before it rebooted. >> NO messages in /var/log/messages >> >> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >> fatal virtual address: 0x0 >> fatal code = supervisor read page not present >> instruction pointer = ....... >> stack pointer = ....... >> frame pointer = ...... >> code segment = base 0x0 limit 0xfffff >> current process = 14802 >> interupt mask >> trap number = 12 >> panic: page fault >> syncing disks................ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy V. Oleynik >> To: Greg Quinlan >> Date: 13 May 1999 07:55 >> Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable >> >> >I've not such complicated hardware+software environment. >> >So my attempts may lead to no result. But isnt there some >> >aiming messages just before PANIC in ur /var/log/messages >> >or other logs? > >-- >WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 11:36:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E2914D8A; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA101845265; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:21:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:21:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brian McGovern , Chris Dillon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-Reply-To: <66746.926551848@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > This is really weird; I can't reproduce this! > > I wonder if it's because my test box uses SCSI. Damn, time to dust > off the IDE system I think. :) Through in an UltraATA controller while you're at it. *HINT* see i386/11655 *HINT* - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 12: 4:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC0514F67; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA08769; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:05:54 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08767; Thu May 13 12:05:39 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA33482; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905131502.IAA33482@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdU33080; Thu May 13 08:02:02 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: David Greenman , Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 02:09:00 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:02:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , C liff Skolnick writes: > On Wed, 12 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > > > >Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the > > >kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that > > >solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. The problem occurred again while running a memory intensive application (tripwire) on the system normally suffers these hangs this morning. It responds to pings, nothing else. I think it's time to try plan B again. Interestingly enough I was running the same application on another system with ~ 1/3 the clock speed (120 MHz v.s. 333 MHZ) and 63% of the memory (80 MB v.s. 128 MB). It's never hung slower system. Could it be that CPU speed contributes to this? Or could it be that the speed of the CPU in relation to the amount of memory installed on the system might be a factor? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 12:21:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4154114BDE for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA43771; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:20:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA28929; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905131921.NAA28929@harmony.village.org> To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: jack , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 11:12:32 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:35 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message "Chris D. Faulhaber" writes: : I've tried longer longer SCSI_DELAY's, different IRQ's, DMA's, termination : is correct (term on the board (not auto-termination), last device termed)) : to no avail. Hmmm. If your machine supports PnP, and the card isn't jumpered for PnP, are you sure that you have the IRQ reserved for the legacy card? The timeout indicates that the command went to the aha card, but didn't get an interrupt within a reasonable amount of time. This may indicate an interrupt conflict. : Is this possibly a problem (for lack of a better word) with the routine : querying about sync when a device doesn't support it? What devices are : other people using that might be similiar (or possibly a lack of devices)? Shouldn't be. I've put a variety of devices on my cards. Some support sync, others do not. The reporting code isn't always right about things with the aha driver for faster disks. I've not looked deeply into this problem, so I'm not sure what the deal here is exactly. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 12:24:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7C814BDE for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA43779; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:23:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA28953; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905131924.NAA28953@harmony.village.org> To: jack Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:02 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:24:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message jack writes: : The plot took an interesting twist in my case yesterday. The box : that fails is a PPro 200 with a 1542C FW Rev. 0.1 (ID=44) and a : 2940UW in it. I stuck an identical 1542 in a P133 with no other : controllers and it works fine with the identical source. (NFS : mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj, installed the world and built a : kernel.) I'm beginning to suspect that the two different : controllers in the Pro may be causing my problem. When I get : time I'll pull the 2940 out and see what happens. I did all my development with a 1542C on a PPro with a builtin 2940UW controller. Make sure that you set in the BIOS of your mobo that the IRQ that you are using is for a legacy and/or ISA card. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 13:25:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89F9414D7F for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 50692 invoked by uid 1003); 13 May 1999 20:25:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 1999 20:25:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:25:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Warner Losh Cc: jack , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905131921.NAA28929@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > Hmmm. If your machine supports PnP, and the card isn't jumpered for > PnP, are you sure that you have the IRQ reserved for the legacy card? > The timeout indicates that the command went to the aha card, but > didn't get an interrupt within a reasonable amount of time. This may > indicate an interrupt conflict. > The MB is an Asus P2B w/PII-450; card is set for IRQ 10 and 10 is set for legacy ISA use in the BIOS (I've also tried IRQ 11 set up the same way). I do have the 2940 and video (Matrox Millenium G200 AGP) sharing a different IRQ, but I wouldn't think that it would be related. I've not tried PnP (and don't really want to). Also the DMA channel is set for 6; according to dmesg, there are no conflicts. The card and drives work just fine, it's just the 50 - 60 delay during startup while this timeout occurs that is annoying. Regards, Chris D. Faulhaber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 13:36:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub2.isdnet.net (mailhub2.isdnet.net [195.154.209.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3A1560E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@mmania.com) Received: from mmp.mmania.com (mmp.aspic.com [195.154.103.7]) by mailhub2.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA78266 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:36:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [212.198.84.220] by mmp.mmania.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.acox) with ESMTP id ia171608 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:36:25 +0200 Message-ID: <373B37C8.B8DF2996@mmania.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:36:24 +0200 From: Erik Robertson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 13:47:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0947D14C1D for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:47:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15777 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513153114.00bbec50@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:45:06 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: BIND 8.2 Problems when reloading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I was just writing to see if anyone else has experienced this problem under FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE. I am trying to run BIND-8.2 (from ports) and am getting some really weird behavior. The name server seems to come up fine and serves up names unhindered for an indefinite period (probably "forever", but it hasn't gotten that far.). However, every once in a while (OK, probably once every couple of days), someone wants to make a change to their zone files. This works fine, then a named.reload is run. named.reload is a wrapper script that we have customized to grab some files with "mirror" the to run "ndc reload". This works fine and dandy about 2 of 3 times. Every third time or so the program hangs and the following is dumped to the server logs: May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_wrtimeout: /var/run/ndc: write timeout, closing May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_srvr.c:660: REQUIRE(sess->state == writing) failed. May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_srvr.c:660: REQUIRE(sess->state == writing) failed. May 13 15:14:04 ox /kernel: pid 81161 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) This same set of messages will appear without delay approximately every third time, if not by then it happens very shortly after. This doesn't seem to have anything to do with how close the commands are run after each other. I have successfully run 5 reloads in a row (within 1 sec of each other), then the 6th dies. On another occasion the first one I run (first time it has been reloaded in about 10 hrs) it dies straight out. The messages are always the same. Has anyone seen this problem before. I have another system running BIND-8.2 and 3.2-BETA that doesn't seem to exhibit this problem. I have included the system information below: Pentium 133 128MB RAM SCSI Hard Drives 3Com 3C905B Ethernet 3.1-STABLE (CVSUP/kernel reinstall 4/26/1999) The only difference between the working machine and the one that doesn't work seems to be the OS version and the number of zones being served. It seems to be a problem with named connecting to a file-based control socket. Any ideas?? Thanks, Ben Gavin /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 13:55:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Homer.Web-Ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0749014D46 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by Homer.Web-Ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10747; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Homer.Web-Ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: Benjamin Gavin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND 8.2 Problems when reloading In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990513153114.00bbec50@mail.supranet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG we downgraded from 8.2 to 8.1.2 for problems under bsd/os and freebsd 2.2.8. CPU usage went through the roof with 8.2. Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 On Thu, 13 May 1999, Benjamin Gavin wrote: > Hi all, > I was just writing to see if anyone else has experienced this problem > under FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE. I am trying to run BIND-8.2 (from ports) and am > getting some really weird behavior. The name server seems to come up fine > and serves up names unhindered for an indefinite period (probably > "forever", but it hasn't gotten that far.). However, every once in a while > (OK, probably once every couple of days), someone wants to make a change to > their zone files. This works fine, then a named.reload is run. > > named.reload is a wrapper script that we have customized to grab some > files with "mirror" the to run "ndc reload". This works fine and dandy > about 2 of 3 times. Every third time or so the program hangs and the > following is dumped to the server logs: > > May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_wrtimeout: /var/run/ndc: write > timeout, closing > May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_srvr.c:660: REQUIRE(sess->state == > writing) failed. > May 13 15:14:04 ox named[81161]: ctl_srvr.c:660: REQUIRE(sess->state == > writing) failed. > May 13 15:14:04 ox /kernel: pid 81161 (named), uid 0: exited on signal 6 > (core dumped) > > This same set of messages will appear without delay approximately every > third time, if not by then it happens very shortly after. This doesn't > seem to have anything to do with how close the commands are run after each > other. I have successfully run 5 reloads in a row (within 1 sec of each > other), then the 6th dies. On another occasion the first one I run (first > time it has been reloaded in about 10 hrs) it dies straight out. The > messages are always the same. Has anyone seen this problem before. I have > another system running BIND-8.2 and 3.2-BETA that doesn't seem to exhibit > this problem. I have included the system information below: > > Pentium 133 > 128MB RAM > SCSI Hard Drives > 3Com 3C905B Ethernet > 3.1-STABLE (CVSUP/kernel reinstall 4/26/1999) > > The only difference between the working machine and the one that doesn't > work seems to be the OS version and the number of zones being served. It > seems to be a problem with named connecting to a file-based control socket. > Any ideas?? > > Thanks, > Ben Gavin > > /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 14: 1:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5979014CC1 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA72202; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:05 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905131924.NAA28953@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Warner Losh wrote: > I did all my development with a 1542C on a PPro with a builtin 2940UW > controller. Make sure that you set in the BIOS of your mobo that the > IRQ that you are using is for a legacy and/or ISA card. Yes, the BIOS has that IRQ reserved for ISA. It's not practical to take this box down other than late at night, but I may stay up and stick some printfs into aha.c and see if I can narrow it down a bit more. Any particular info that you think may be helpful? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 14: 6:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from troi.csw.net (troi.csw.net [209.136.192.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72FC14D46 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Received: from gronk (gronk.csw.net [209.136.201.13]) by troi.csw.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA95811 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:06:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@cswnet.com) Message-Id: <199905132106.QAA95811@troi.csw.net> From: lambert@cswnet.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:05:21 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: What happenned to the INN-1.7.2 port?? X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.60 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In , on 05/12/99 at 05:12 PM, Tom said: >On Wed, 12 May 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: >> Enough stuff has changed in INN 2.2 that my Managing USENET book doesn't >> help much. Can I readd the old INN-1.7.2 port as maybe INN-1.7.2 in my >> ports tree somehow? Or do I get to go back to the 19990218-SNAP of >> -STABLE? > cvsup can be used to checkout source code as it was on a particular >date. Nevermind, the production hardware died last night and I rooted around in the INN 2.2 stuff rather than reinstall the new box. It only took me 4 hours to get it figured out and ready to put in place. So this has forced me to learn something new and brought me closer to the edge of news technology. I just hope I don't bleed out here. :-) Thanks for the pointers from everybody, Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 14:30:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E64F14FD1 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tmckay@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (tmckay@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA18558; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:30:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (tmckay@localhost) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA32544; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Travis J. McKay" To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: Warner Losh , jack , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Hmmm. If your machine supports PnP, and the card isn't jumpered for > > PnP, are you sure that you have the IRQ reserved for the legacy card? > > The timeout indicates that the command went to the aha card, but > > didn't get an interrupt within a reasonable amount of time. This may > > indicate an interrupt conflict. > > > > The MB is an Asus P2B w/PII-450; card is set for IRQ 10 and 10 is set > for legacy ISA use in the BIOS (I've also tried IRQ 11 set up the same > way). I do have the 2940 and video (Matrox Millenium G200 AGP) > sharing a different IRQ, but I wouldn't think that it would be > related. > I've not tried PnP (and don't really want to). Also the DMA channel is set > for 6; according to dmesg, there are no conflicts. The card and drives > work just fine, it's just the 50 - 60 delay during startup while this > timeout occurs that is annoying. I can report a similar experience. After compiling the STABLE / kernel from May 11th, I received the same error message upon startup. I haven't had time to do any other testing (sorry). When I booted back up with the old kernel (from maybe two weeks ago on STABLE), everything worked fine. I am sure that there are no conflicts, and I do not have a PnP capable motherboard. The firmware in the 1540CF is the newest available from Adaptec as of a 3-4 months ago. I believe it is dated '97. Regards, Travis McKay tmckay@u.washington.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 14:37: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6F114FD1 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07655 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:36:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: deadlock problem related to MFS & paging? In-Reply-To: <199905131502.IAA33482@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >From an offlist email exchange with Cy, it seem that Cy and myself are both mounting /tmp with mount_mfs. We are also both locking up when the system is doing IO in general, paging, and lots of I/O to /tmp. I'm wondering if there is an interaction with the MFS code. I hope this is the case, and that removing the mount_mfs will stop the lockups. This would explain why more people are not having the same problem. Is anyone having these deadlocks not running MFS? I've emailed a couple other people that posted about deadlocks in the past few weeks to -stable asking them if they were running MFS. Cliff -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 14:46:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE0D14E6D; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01582; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905132143.OAA01582@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Fieber Cc: Peter Schwenk , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 10:16:19 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:43:34 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Peter Schwenk wrote: > > > I just wanted to let the developers know that I have trouble printing > > with the 3.2-BETA kernel using the GENERIC configuration file. I print > > ... > > > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 > > > > line to > > > > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 tty irq 7 > > This still hasn't been resolved? If not, we have taken one step > forward and two steps back with respect to parallel ports. What > is the rational of choosing net over tty in GENERIC? The net > option has caused a lot of grief among people who want to print. > If it changes to tty, what breaks (and who will that > inconvenience)? It probably breaks PLIP, ie. network installs for laptops. I'm still not really sure why the interrupt mask isn't manipulated by the ppbus code according to active use; I presume just because Nicolas has been too busy to take it on. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 15:14:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41D314E6E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA44165; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:13:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA29676; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905132213.QAA29676@harmony.village.org> To: "Travis J. McKay" Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: "Chris D. Faulhaber" , jack , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 14:30:24 PDT." References: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:13:59 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message "Travis J. McKay" writes: : I can report a similar experience. After compiling the STABLE / kernel : from May 11th, I received the same error message upon startup. I haven't : had time to do any other testing (sorry). When I booted back up with the : old kernel (from maybe two weeks ago on STABLE), everything worked fine. Hmmm. That's a pretty big hint if STABLE is the 3.x branch. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 15:14:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FFB150D0; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA24865; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990513151415.A24853@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Smith , John Fieber Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199905132143.OAA01582@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905132143.OAA01582@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 02:43:34PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > with the 3.2-BETA kernel using the GENERIC configuration file. I print > > > > > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 > > > line to > > > device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 tty irq 7 ..snip.. > > If it changes to tty, what breaks (and who will that inconvenience)? > > It probably breaks PLIP, ie. network installs for laptops. Is it possible to change `GENERIC' to "tty" and create a new kernel config file, `INSTALL' where we tweak it for things like this. Having 'bpf' active in `GENERIC' for DHCP installs (when we get to it), is another example of where what we need for installs may not be best in `GENERIC'. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 15:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E246B150D6; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02692; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:17:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:17:40 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" , Mats Lofkvist , stable@freebsd.org, bde@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <199905131334.GAA32197@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message , > "Sergey > Ayukov (mailing lists)" writes: > > > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > > speed Read Write > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > I don't think that this is an NFS issue. You'll generally find that > write local filesystem performance of FreeBSD is slower on FreeBSD than > on Linux. Linux filesystems are written asynchronously while FreeBSD > by default writes metadata synchronously (SMD). SMD (Synchronous > Metadata) writes are not the same as synchronous writes (all writes to > the filesystem being synchronous) -- sync option on the mount command. > IIRC, Bruce Evans made the comment last year that by mounting a > filesystem async, he had an incredible performance improvement. I'm > sorry I cannot recall the actual percentage of performance improvement. I have found that softupdates works at least as well as async (possibly better) and keeps me feeling 'safe' about my filesystems. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 15:20:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EC6715256 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 51067 invoked by uid 1003); 13 May 1999 22:20:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 May 1999 22:20:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:20:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Warner Losh Cc: "Travis J. McKay" , jack , Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905132213.QAA29676@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message "Travis J. McKay" writes: > : I can report a similar experience. After compiling the STABLE / kernel > : from May 11th, I received the same error message upon startup. I haven't > : had time to do any other testing (sorry). When I booted back up with the > : old kernel (from maybe two weeks ago on STABLE), everything worked fine. > > Hmmm. That's a pretty big hint if STABLE is the 3.x branch. > Same here...worked fine a few weeks ago; I updated the sources the other day and this started happening. I can boot 3.1-RELEASE and no problems; I can boot a GENERIC kernel (-STABLE) from the middle of last month without problems also. Regards, Chris D. Faulhaber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 16: 2:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FDB1532B for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21251; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16527; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA05755; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199905132302.QAA05755@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:02:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cliff Skolnick "deadlock problem related to MFS & paging?" (May 13, 2:36pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: Cliff Skolnick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: deadlock problem related to MFS & paging? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On May 13, 2:36pm, Cliff Skolnick wrote: } Subject: deadlock problem related to MFS & paging? } } >From an offlist email exchange with Cy, it seem that Cy and myself are both } mounting /tmp with mount_mfs. We are also both locking up when the system is } doing IO in general, paging, and lots of I/O to /tmp. I'm wondering if } there is an interaction with the MFS code. } } I hope this is the case, and that removing the mount_mfs will stop the } lockups. This would explain why more people are not having the same } problem. } } Is anyone having these deadlocks not running MFS? Our news server wedged a couple days ago after running for a couple weeks. The code dated from about May 1, which was before the latest fix (attempt?). We are not using MFS on that machine. In our case, it was not a total lockup. There were three processes stuck in the inode state (syncer, innd, and *grep*). Before the May 1 software upgrade, we were running an old version of 3.0 from late last year. It was completely stable and had months of uptime. In addition to upgrading to more current code, we also started using vinum. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 16:50:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917CB15630; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02242; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:45:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905132345.QAA02242@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Mike Smith , John Fieber , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:15 PDT." <19990513151415.A24853@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:45:52 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > If it changes to tty, what breaks (and who will that inconvenience)? > > > > It probably breaks PLIP, ie. network installs for laptops. > > Is it possible to change `GENERIC' to "tty" and create a new kernel > config file, `INSTALL' where we tweak it for things like this. Having We tried this before. It doesn't work too good. > 'bpf' active in `GENERIC' for DHCP installs (when we get to it), is > another example of where what we need for installs may not be best in > `GENERIC'. No, having bpf in the install kernel and not in GENERIC would be extra-unsmart if we go to DHCP. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 17: 1:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4178D14C48; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA25392; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990513170116.A25363@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Smith Cc: John Fieber , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990513151415.A24853@nuxi.com> <199905132345.QAA02242@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905132345.QAA02242@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, May 13, 1999 at 04:45:52PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > 'bpf' active in `GENERIC' for DHCP installs (when we get to it), is > > another example of where what we need for installs may not be best in > > `GENERIC'. > > No, having bpf in the install kernel and not in GENERIC would be > extra-unsmart if we go to DHCP. Wouldn't say "extra-unsmart" as you can try to give enough directions to tell people they need to compile a new kernel immediately after the install with BPF enabled. I do acknowledge the support headache this could lead to. However, if BPF is enabled in GENERIC, I think we will take a lot of heat... for the security implications. Admittedly.. a hard problem. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 18:11:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netrinsics.com (unknown [202.99.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11901517F for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id JAA46457 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:10:34 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:10:34 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199905140110.JAA46457@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: >> > 'bpf' active in `GENERIC' for DHCP installs (when we get to it), is >> > another example of where what we need for installs may not be best in >> > `GENERIC'. >> >> No, having bpf in the install kernel and not in GENERIC would be >> extra-unsmart if we go to DHCP. > >Wouldn't say "extra-unsmart" as you can try to give enough directions to >tell people they need to compile a new kernel immediately after the >install with BPF enabled. I do acknowledge the support headache this >could lead to. > >However, if BPF is enabled in GENERIC, I think we will take a lot of >heat... for the security implications. > >Admittedly.. a hard problem. I thought the new whizz-bang three-stage configurable kernel boot loader was supposed to make this kind of problem go away. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 18:21:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A983F1522E; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:21:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA46851; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:21:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:21:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Brian McGovern , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > This is really weird; I can't reproduce this! > > > > I wonder if it's because my test box uses SCSI. Damn, time to dust > > off the IDE system I think. :) More on the quirk I encountered... I just attempted an install of 3.2-19990512-BETA, the latest available on releng3.freebsd.org. In a nutshell, I: Disabled all disableable (is that a word?) devices EXCEPT: fd0, wdc1 (yes, no wdc0), ppc0, sio0, atkbd0, psm0, sc0. The PCI devices probed/attached are fxp0-fxp6 (though I only had one fxp card installed the first time around), ncr0, ncr1. Attached to ncr0 are three 9.1GB UW SCSI drives. "Custom" install. I partition each disk using "Use Entire Disk" in the partition editor, using a true partition entry (not dangerously dedicated), set bootable on da0 and da1. Label them as such: da0s1a: 100M - / da0s1e: 200M - /var da0s1f: 1700M - /usr da0s1g: remainder (6675MB) - /cache.0 da1s1e: 100M - /root.bak da1s1f: 1000M - /devel da1s1g: 900M - /usr/src da1s1h: remainder (6675MB) - /cache.1 da2s1e: 1000M - /usr/obj da2s1f: 1000M - /spare da2s1g: remainder (6675MB) - /cache.2 Pick bin, dict, doc, games, info, man distributions. Media - FTP - fxp6 - 3.0 SNAP Server. Commit. "You must have at least one swap partition..." "Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting" "Commit completed with errors. Not updating /etc" Whoops. Go back into the label editor. Remove: da0s1f: 1700M - /usr da1s1g: 900M - /usr/src Create: da0s1b: 300M - swap da0s1f: 1400M - /usr da1s1b: 300M - swap da1s1g: 600M - /usr/src Commit. "WARNING! Unable to swap to /dev/da0s1b: Device not configured...." "Making filesystem for /dev/rda0s1a" (or whatever... It happened quickly) "Unable to add /mnt/dev/da1s1b as a swap device: Device not configured." Over on the debug console: DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype - DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype - DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype - DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype - DEBUG: MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype - All of the filesystems are newfs'd, FTP installation begins, and I abort it (just wanted to make sure it would get that far). Just noticed something else. After aborting the install and playing around a bit with attempting to choose the FTP site again (started install a second time just fine after re-choosing site), I finally went to do something else and "I've got a Signal 11. Not good!". Debug console said something like (I really need to write things down _before_ I make them go away): DEBUG: Deleting default route on fxp6 DEBUG: Caught signal 11 After I hit OK, it rebooted. AND, now that I've gone back into sysinstall, I examine the previously created partitions via label editor. It seems the second time around after making the changes in the label editor, they were never actually committed. The supposedly deleted/recreated da0s1f and da1s1g are still the originals (original size), and da0s1b and da1s1b don't exist. Should I have hit (W)rite in the label editor the second time around before I went to re-commit (that might have solved all the problems)? If so, should the default behaviour be changed to make those changes automatically upon final "Commit"? Anyway, assuming I do things right the first time, everything goes without a hitch. I'm only thinking about those people who occasionally screw up. :-) -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 18:35:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.transfar.com (unknown [202.103.100.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5A1522E for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phj@www.transfar.com) Received: from mail.transfar.com ([202.103.100.243]) by www.transfar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA3E7B; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:31:40 +0900 Message-ID: <373BEF43.29D21BE0@mail.transfar.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:39:18 +0000 From: Peng HaiJie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Quinlan Cc: "Andy V. Oleynik" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable References: <008201be9d64$de7ee0a0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try to use 0:wd(0,a)kernel to boot your box,maybe the panic wouldn't happen again. I met the same problem yesterday. P.H.J. Greg Quinlan wrote: > They should be in /var/log/messages.... ? > > But I have searched and nothing! > > Is there some way I can delay the reboot process; so that some one can write > down a proper message when it happens again? > > ps. no PANIC all day today :) > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy V. Oleynik > To: Greg Quinlan > Date: 13 May 1999 11:56 > Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable > > >AFAIK the reason of PANIC was the kernel's attempt to read mem page > >from RAM or swap, & this page must been present either in RAM or swap, > >but it wasnt. I think it's vm trouble. > >But I was rather interested in that log lines preceeding the "Fatal > >trap" > >message. Do U have them? > >Greg Quinlan wrote: > > > >> This is the best I can do, since it was written down by someone non > >> technical in "short-hand" before it rebooted. > >> NO messages in /var/log/messages > >> > >> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > >> fatal virtual address: 0x0 > >> fatal code = supervisor read page not present > >> instruction pointer = ....... > >> stack pointer = ....... > >> frame pointer = ...... > >> code segment = base 0x0 limit 0xfffff > >> current process = 14802 > >> interupt mask > >> trap number = 12 > >> panic: page fault > >> syncing disks................ > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Andy V. Oleynik > >> To: Greg Quinlan > >> Date: 13 May 1999 07:55 > >> Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable > >> > >> >I've not such complicated hardware+software environment. > >> >So my attempts may lead to no result. But isnt there some > >> >aiming messages just before PANIC in ur /var/log/messages > >> >or other logs? > > > >-- > >WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > > U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 18:36:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAEF1536B for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:35:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA10207; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:35:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513214533.075844c0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:46:11 -0400 To: Cliff Skolnick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: deadlock problem related to MFS & paging? In-Reply-To: References: <199905131502.IAA33482@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I've emailed a couple other people that posted about deadlocks in the past >few weeks to -stable asking them if they were running MFS. No MFS here, and I havent had the same degree of lockups as you and Cy have seen... ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 19:48:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00452152CF for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA32879 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:48:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: deadlock problem related to MFS & paging? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990513214533.075844c0@granite.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll summerize the results, please drop me a note personally instead of to this list. Mail me the last time you cvsup'ed, and the output of uname -a. So maybe we can figure out another correlation. I just ordered another 128MB of memory and a real disk to mount /tmp on a UFS system. I might install that if I can make any progress on the software hacks, I'll see if that gets rid of the problem next week. Cliff On Thu, 13 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > >I've emailed a couple other people that posted about deadlocks in the past > >few weeks to -stable asking them if they were running MFS. > > No MFS here, and I havent had the same degree of lockups as you and Cy have > seen... > > ---Mike > ********************************************************************** > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > Canada * > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 21:56:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAB015425 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA44960; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:55:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA31430; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:56:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905140456.WAA31430@harmony.village.org> To: jack Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 17:01:05 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:56:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message jack writes: : Yes, the BIOS has that IRQ reserved for ISA. It's not practical : to take this box down other than late at night, but I may stay up : and stick some printfs into aha.c and see if I can narrow it down : a bit more. Any particular info that you think may be helpful? Yes. What version of FreeBSD are you using? I haven't tried aha on -current in about a month. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 21:59:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EFF15425 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:59:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA44970; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:58:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA31457; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:59:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905140459.WAA31457@harmony.village.org> To: jack Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: Frank McConnell , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 10:23:02 EDT." References: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:59:32 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anybody tried a before/after Ken's changes cam to -stable? I'll have to try that myself, as that is really the only significant commit to -stable in the area of aha/scsi/cam. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 22:59:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7181527B for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11523; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905140456.WAA31430@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On May 13 Warner Losh wrote: > : Yes, the BIOS has that IRQ reserved for ISA. It's not practical > : to take this box down other than late at night, but I may stay up > : and stick some printfs into aha.c and see if I can narrow it down > : a bit more. Any particular info that you think may be helpful? > > Yes. What version of FreeBSD are you using? I haven't tried aha on > -current in about a month. -stable (that's why I posted to this list :\), cvsup'ed on the 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th has had the problem. A kernel left over from -stable cvsup'ed on the third works fine. If it is caused by Ken's latest changes to cam it involves more than just aha.c. I backed those changes out of that file and it still fails. Also, it't only a problem if both cards (1542 and 2940) are installed since GENERIC and custom kernels with both controllers compiled in work in a box with only a 1542 in it. I'll checkout /sys from before that commit and see what happens on the box with both. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 13 23:26:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mate.kjsl.com (Mate.KJSL.COM [204.87.183.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E6D14BF7 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc@reanimators.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mate.kjsl.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id XAA03173; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fmc@localhost) by daemonweed.reanimators.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01354; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fmc) Message-Id: <199905140606.XAA01354@daemonweed.reanimators.org> To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? References: <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> <199905130418.WAA26127@harmony.village.org> <199905131443.HAA00961@daemonweed.reanimators.org> From: Frank McConnell Date: 13 May 1999 23:06:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: Frank McConnell's message of "13 May 1999 07:43:42 -0700" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank McConnell wrote: > But this morning I changed the card's idea of its IRQ to 9 and it all > works with no "create_intr" complaint. I'm guessing that IRQ 11 was > falling foul of (and being changed to -1 by) the "#ifdef APIC_IO" code > just before the call to register_intr() in config_isadev_c(), but as > I'm not sure what is going on in that code I think I'm just going to > rejoice and do a backup now that I can get to my tape drive. Um, well, duh, turns out I had the ROM BIOS set to hand IRQ 11 over to PCI/PnP. Changing that setting to allocate the IRQ (and DMA channel 5) to ISA/EISA (and changing the card back to IRQ 11) also solved the problem. Why it worked for IRQ 9 (which is set the same way) is a mystery to me. Thanks to Warner for dropping that hint. -Frank McConnell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 0:54:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.cca.usart.ru (linux.cca.usart.ru [194.226.230.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F781515D for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@cca.usart.ru) Received: from localhost (max@localhost) by linux.cca.usart.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA11876; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:47:13 +0600 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:47:12 +0600 (ESD) From: Max Gotlib To: Gawel Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: How to remoteboot 3.1 kernel? In-Reply-To: <373A937E.454ECAD1@unix.sim.com.pl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! The most conveniet way is to build aout kernel ... Best regards, Max. On Thu, 13 May 1999, Gawel wrote: > > Is it possible to remote boot 3.1-Stable kernel on diskless workstation? > > I am successfully booting 2.2.8 kernel. > Using 3.1 kernel I receive Bad executable format! > Could you help me how to patch /usr/src/i386/boot/netboot > files from 3.1-Stable to remote boot 3.1 kernel? > > With regards, > Gawel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 1:12:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.sim.com.pl (unix.sim.com.pl [195.117.85.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD981551F for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gawel@unix.sim.com.pl) Received: from unix.sim.com.pl (pawel.sim.com.pl [192.168.1.20]) by unix.sim.com.pl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA10068; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:02:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gawel@unix.sim.com.pl) Message-ID: <373BD7A5.85009A97@unix.sim.com.pl> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:58:29 +0200 From: Gawel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Max Gotlib Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: How to remoteboot 3.1 kernel? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks a lot !!! I have just made a.out 3.1 kernel and it works perfect with netboot. Now I am waitng for etherboot-4.2 in ports collection to boot elf kernel. With regards, Gawel Max Gotlib wrote: > Hi! > > The most conveniet way is to build aout kernel ... > > Best regards, > Max. > > On Thu, 13 May 1999, Gawel wrote: > > > > Is it possible to remote boot 3.1-Stable kernel on diskless workstation? > > > > I am successfully booting 2.2.8 kernel. > > Using 3.1 kernel I receive Bad executable format! > > Could you help me how to patch /usr/src/i386/boot/netboot > > files from 3.1-Stable to remote boot 3.1 kernel? > > > > With regards, > > Gawel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 1:40:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5C7151BC for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 01:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00358; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:41:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:41:42 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <199905131334.GAA32197@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > > speed Read Write > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > I don't think that this is an NFS issue. You'll generally find that > write local filesystem performance of FreeBSD is slower on FreeBSD than > on Linux. Linux filesystems are written asynchronously while FreeBSD > by default writes metadata synchronously (SMD). SMD (Synchronous > Metadata) writes are not the same as synchronous writes (all writes to > the filesystem being synchronous) -- sync option on the mount command. Actually, the remedy for slow writes has been identified. Thanks to all who replied. After doing /sbin/sysctl -w vfs.nfs.async=1 /sbin/sysctl -w vfs.nfs.gatherdelay=0 I get about 2.9MB/s on write over clean 100MBit/s network (this will violate NFSv2 specs since server will report that operation is completed before actual write). Thank you for explanation about filesystem internals; I think the performance difference due to SMD is much smaller than the 2.1MB/s difference I was getting. > IIRC, Bruce Evans made the comment last year that by mounting a > filesystem async, he had an incredible performance improvement. I'm > sorry I cannot recall the actual percentage of performance improvement. I did try it (added async to options in fstab), but NFS performance seemed to be almost unaffected. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 2:13: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B193315431 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 02:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA76694 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:13:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:13:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" Reply-To: K.J.Bosschaart@wtb.tue.nl To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable In-Reply-To: <008201be9d64$de7ee0a0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 13 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > They should be in /var/log/messages.... ? > > But I have searched and nothing! > > Is there some way I can delay the reboot process; so that some one can write > down a proper message when it happens again? I also have nothing in /var/log/messages, but I find the messages in the dumped core when looking at it with kgdb... I produced 3 dumps last night, finally I know more or less how to reproduce the panic on my system. It's weird; the panics *only* happen when I "cold-started" the computer, that's with the power-button. Then it lasts for minutes to some hours for the panic to occur. After the subsequent reboot, the system appears rock stable to me. I have 3.1-STABLE cvsupped on 30 April, from that day I left my computer on and I didn't get any panic until I switched it off (after 10 days) and turned it on couple of hours later: reboot in one hour. It seems indicative to me for some hardware initialization problems, but I wouldn't know exactly what part of the system. What does the message "BIOS EXTMEM (...) != RTC EXTMEM (...)" mean exactly? Is it harmful? I noticed it scrolling by when rebooting but couldn't find it back with dmesg. BIOS EXTMEM was 64MB, the other 128MB, which is the amount of memory I have and is also used by FreeBSD. Do I need to revise my BIOS settings? There is an option "OS/2 Onboard Memory > 64 MB" which is disabled by default. > >> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > >> fatal virtual address: 0x0 > >> fatal code = supervisor read page not present > >> instruction pointer = ....... > >> stack pointer = ....... > >> frame pointer = ...... > >> code segment = base 0x0 limit 0xfffff > >> current process = 14802 > >> interupt mask > >> trap number = 12 > >> panic: page fault > >> syncing disks................ Very similar to my messages (from kgdb, see below). This one was with the GENERIC kernel (as of 30 April). It looks very similar for my own kernel, though some numbers are different. Always a page fault, either read or write. Karel. (kgdb) symbol-file kernel Reading symbols from kernel...done. (kgdb) exec-file /home/karelj/crash.GENERIC/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /home/karelj/crash.GENERIC/vmcore.0 IdlePTD 3469312 initial pcb at 2da760 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xc5eb9dd0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0225165 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc5e3ee6c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc5e3ee78 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 34940 (sh) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 2 done dumping to dev 40001, offset 142128 dump 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 3:36: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from richard.eu.org (osf-dial22.taide.lt [193.219.244.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47C1537C for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:36:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@richard.eu.org) Received: (from rch@localhost) by richard.eu.org (8.9.2/8.9.3) id MAA01125 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:06:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rch) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:06:29 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?UmnEjWFyZGFzIMSMZXBhcw==?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: setlocale() Message-ID: <19990514120628.A1014@richard.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Why does setlocale() fails for LC_ALL and LC_CTYPE and for multibyte locales? There are compiled LC_CTYPE files in /usr/share/locale. I'm running 3.1-STABLE. --=20 Ri=C4=8Dardas =C4=8Cepas ~~ ~ --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: Fvh1ZaYvGsr7/0Pl67NWZoh2gAc4JOnE iQA/AwUBNzv1pLj15+7mW/OBEQIHNACgkrXMDN5UwK/8ISnzAOxBQkNsdkUAn2h9 cX5iPoAU32PDbMHi/cdDX5RN =5W54 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BOKacYhQ+x31HxR3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 3:55:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gidgate.gid.co.uk (gidgate.gid.co.uk [193.123.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B9D1537C for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: (from rb@localhost) by gidgate.gid.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00721; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:55:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990513223249.007b7bc0@192.168.255.1> X-Sender: rbmail@192.168.255.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:32:49 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: Possible to get sendmail config files separately? Cc: Mike Holling In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, At 14:53 12/05/99 -0700, Mike Holling wrote: >In the 2.x days, the sendmail configurations files used to come in a >separate distribution. It looks like they're now rolled into the contrib >source distribution. Are these available separately, or do you have to >get all the contrib sources to get them? Something very similar could be said about the softupdates source files. -- Bob Bishop +44 118 977 4017 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 118 989 4254 (0800-1800 UK) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 4:36:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop-serv1.customersvc.com (pop-serv1.customersvc.com [208.135.116.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D7F14E0C for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 04:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacobsm@customersvc.com) Received: from bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com ([168.161.131.229]) by pop-serv1.customersvc.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-29023U510) with SMTP id AAA306 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:39:41 -0400 From: jacobsm@customersvc.com (Mark Jacobs) Organization: Time Customer Service To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:36:47 -0400 Subject: KDE Port Problem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-ID: <19990514113941796.AAA306@bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I attempted to make port kdebase-i18n-1.1.1 last night from a freshly cvsuped ports collection and the process failed during the ftp of ja-kdelocale- 0.9.3. That port is looking for file pofiles-ja-0.9.3.tar.bz2, which does not seem to exist anywhere. The download link from www.freebsd.org is pointing to kdelocal.tar. I am running 3.2 beta, cvsuped/make world from Wednesday. Mark Jacobs MVS/JES2 Systems Programmer Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL ------------------------------------------------------ "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Army Last Words, 1864 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 5:38:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EEF155F9 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id VAA19004; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:38:23 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <373C0932.8128762B@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:29:54 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Heffner Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: kernel problem References: <01BE9CAD.16E90DC0.aheffner@lakefield.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Heffner wrote: > > Just the other day i remade my GENERIC kernel, as it was still in 2.2 land > and wouldn't boot with 3.1. i also remade my custom kernel. now when i boot > up i get this: > elf_loadexec: > /kernel text=0x159eca > archsw.readin failed > > I've read other responses to this problem, but my kernel.GENERIC and > kernel.old also give the same error. can i reinstall a new kernel from the > boot disks, and how? or can i rebuild the boot loader to work with the new > kernel? When the | shows up (boot[12]), before loader starts, press any key and then tell it to load the kernel directly instead of the loader. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 5:38:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6199C1562A for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 05:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id VAA19052; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:38:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <373C0FF0.3EF8CD5F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:58:40 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Schwenk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing References: <373A5264.C568B85C@voicenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Schwenk wrote: > > I don't know what the "tty" or "net" parts do. This change was > discussed in -questions a bit after 3.1-RELEASE was released. I just > wanted to let you folks know just in case you want to include the change > in the 3.2-RELEASE. Basically, net is needed for SLIP. Because we want to support the extremely unlikely case of installing through SLIP (extremely unlikely, yes, but *NOT* inexistent! in fact, I'm almost sure there is at least one committer who keeps this change from happening because he wants to install through SLIP instead of upgrading his set up to something that have actually been in use for the past five years or so), we subject people to a seeming buggy printer driver. GENERIC is not only the default kernel. It's the kernel used during installation, thus, it must be kept this way. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 6:21:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7C514D84; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA08434; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.pa.dtd.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00284; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:21:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199905141321.JAA00284@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: Chris Dillon Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Brian McGovern , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ok as of 19990512-BETA (was: Re: Fubar w/3.2-BETA) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 20:21:26 CDT." Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:21:17 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I noticed similar "Do it right the first time" issues, as well. However, the 19990512-BETA snapshot cleared up the sysinstall issues with IDE disks, and I'm now hoping it'll clear up some uglyness with a SCSI system I was experiencing yesterday where I was getting signal 11's near the end of the install, apparently when it was trying to get PnP devices, and there weren't any. If it continues to be a problem, I'll start a new thread. Otherwise, its pretty stable on my home system so far (just did a few installs and built the packages I'll want for today). -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 7:37:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625F414F04; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA10953; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.pa.dtd.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00604; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:37:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199905141437.KAA00604@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS Crashes with 3.2-19990512-BETA... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 May 1999 20:21:26 CDT." Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:37:37 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a heads up. I have a machine at home thats crashed twice while using it as an NFS client. Unfortunately, I've not been at the console, and it looks like I've hung it up good this time. But, basically, all I did was mount a 3.1 server to a 3.2-BETA client, and, on the client, ran tar zcvpf to compress the packages tree (/usr/ports/packages) on to my home directory on the server. In both cases, between 500K and 1MB, the box died. This may be just my box, as its acted quirky before, but, I'll be verifying it shortly locally. I figured you may want a jump-start at looking at it, in case I can't verify it to the 11th hour, with the 3.2 release pending tomorrow. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 7:52: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.symmetron.com (mail.symmetron.com [206.239.186.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC8214F43 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from John.Shue@symmetron.com) Received: from mail (mail.symmetron.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.symmetron.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA305 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:53:06 -0400 Reply-To: From: John.Shue@symmetron.com (John A. Shue) To: Subject: make aout-to-elf-build failed w/ sources from 05/13/99 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:53:06 -0400 Message-ID: <000801be9e19$79847f10$42baefce@mail.symmetron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to upgrade a 2.1-STABLE machine to RELENG_3. I cvsup'ed RELENG_3 on 5/13/99 from cvsup.freebsd.org. I'm following instructions I found by searching the mail archives in combination w/ Nik Clayton's "Making the world your own" (which I've used many times in the past to track 2.1-STABLE and 2.2-STABLE). They say to do "make aout-to-elf-build" in /usr/src. It immediately flashed the warning message: "Makefile.upgrade", line 111: warning: Couldn't read shell's output This doesn't seem to bother the make, because it continues to: -------------------------------------------------------------- Upgrading the installed make -------------------------------------------------------------- Then it does: -------------------------------------------------------------- Doing an aout buildworld to get an up-to-date set of tools -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the temporary aout build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- Then it dies during: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making make -------------------------------------------------------------- with the following error message: main.o: Undefined symbol `_sysctlbyname' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Is it supposed to make "make" after it did so in the first step "Upgrading the installed make"? And why did it appear to build "make" successfully the first time and die w/ an unresolved symbol the second time? What can I try to get this thing to build? I used "script" to capture the output from running make, if anyone wants to take a look --------------- John A. Shue 4000 Legato Road, Suite 600 Fairfax, VA 22033 (703) 591-5559 (703) 591-6337 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 8: 1: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7496A1540F for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA28505; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990514080057.A28484@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:00:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Peter Schwenk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GENERIC 3.2-BETA kernel and printing Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <373A5264.C568B85C@voicenet.com> <373C0FF0.3EF8CD5F@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <373C0FF0.3EF8CD5F@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 08:58:40PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I don't know what the "tty" or "net" parts do. > > Basically, net is needed for SLIP. Because we want to support the s/SLIP/PLIP/g > extremely unlikely case of installing through SLIP (extremely > unlikely, yes, but *NOT* inexistent! in fact, I'm almost sure there Maybe unlikely on desktops/servers, rather common on laptops. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 8: 7:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1C15427 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA35628; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is aha broken? In-Reply-To: <199905140459.WAA31457@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On May 13 Warner Losh wrote: > Has anybody tried a before/after Ken's changes cam to -stable? I'll > have to try that myself, as that is really the only significant commit > to -stable in the area of aha/scsi/cam. That sure looks like what caused it. *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 date=99.05.07.00.00.00 Works Here[tm] *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 date=99.05.07.01.00.00 doesn't 1.19.2.1 Fri May 7 0:43:24 1999 by ken Branch: RELENG_3 Diffs to 1.19 ; Diffs to 1.23 MFC: Add a number of interrelated CAM feature enhancements and bug fixes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 10:19:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tornado.cisco.com (tornado.cisco.com [171.69.104.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F367514D34 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [171.69.104.147]) by tornado.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15836; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.pa.dtd.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA01092; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:19:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <199905141719.NAA01092@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: Brian McGovern Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS in 19990512-BETA In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 09:21:17 EDT." <199905141321.JAA00284@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:19:43 -0400 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, looks like its either been fixed, or my machine at home is just acting flakey (thats not ruled out yet). I'm running 19990514-BETA, and so far, all is well. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 10:38: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326E114C3C; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA03605; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma003020; Fri, 14 May 99 13:37:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: SYN floods against FreeBSD (fwd) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: security@freebsd.org Message-id: Content-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/Mixed; BOUNDARY="Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ)" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Don't know whether this hit the list yet, so I'm passing along. Apologies if it's old news. Note: I am not the author of the message; I'm just reposting it here. Please remove my address from any replies to the -stable mailing list. Thanks. SB ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:35:43 -0700 From: Richard Steenbergen To: BUGTRAQ@netspace.org Subject: SYN floods against FreeBSD Here's a quickie for the people who have been plagued with high bandwidth syn flood attacks, a kernel patch for FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE which rate limits SYN processing. Its messy but functional and I don't have time to make it better (thats the fbsd developers job, not mine :P), cd /usr/src/sys, patch < synlim, add "options SYN_RATELIM" (I highly recommend ICMP_BANDLIM as well) to your kernel, recompile, and sysctl net.inet.tcp.synlim will be available (default to 100). This is the maximium number of SYNs per second that will be processed, the rest will be silently discarded. On my test system (P2 450 running 3.1-stable being hit w/15,000 packets per sec), this has successfully brought CPU usage from 100% to ~20% (against an open port which is replying with unacknowledged ACKs). Which brings us to the more sticky topic of kernel panics when under SYN flood (which I believe to be the cause of some earlier posts from certain people at Exodus Communications *cough*). Lord knows I found enough of them when doing this testing, but the one that seems to be the biggie for crashing when under syn flood is as follows (heh just turned off the synlim and panic'd within 8 seconds while writing this): panic: free: multiple frees (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc0138c09 in panic (fmt=0xc02192b7 "free: multiple frees") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc0135aaf in free (addr=0xc0cdd600, type=0xc0239330) at ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:333 #3 0xc01768f4 in ifafree (ifa=0xc0cdd600) at ../../net/route.c:262 #4 0xc0176876 in rtfree (rt=0xc34ce700) at ../../net/route.c:236 #5 0xc0176c84 in rtrequest (req=2, dst=0xc34cbac0, gateway=0xc34cbad0, netmask=0x0, flags=393223, ret_nrt=0x0) at ../../net/route.c:536 #6 0xc017b34d in in_rtqkill (rn=0xc34ce700, rock=0xc0231610) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:242 #7 0xc0176064 in rn_walktree (h=0xc0cd9e00, f=0xc017b2fc , w=0xc0231610) at ../../net/radix.c:956 #8 0xc017b3ec in in_rtqtimo (rock=0xc0cd9e00) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:283 #9 0xc013d19b in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:124 Which after a quick examination seems to be a perioditic routing table cleanup. It seems that in_rtqtimo is scheduled to run every net.inet.ip.rtexpire seconds (which is dynamicly adjusted and can never go lower then net.inet.ip.rtminexpire). When the system is under heavy load from processing lots of small packets (they don't even have to be SYNs, anything which can get routed will do the trick, though the packet kiddies would get very little gain from just sending an ip header since its going to be padded to 64 bytes for the eth frame anyhow), this route cleanup code will go wacking at routes it shouldn't and free some memory twice. In the course of testing I've gotten my rtq_reallyold to -3 and seen lots of "tvotohz: negative time difference -2 sec 0 usec". Perhaps someone with free time or more specific knowledge of this area would like to FIX IT? =) Perhaps when I get more free time I'll test some other *nix's. I would really recommend putting all this rate limiting code at an ipfw level. If you would like to contact me regarding this please use humble@quadrunner.com (at least if you want a quick reply), thanks. -- Richard Steenbergen humble@EFNet PGP ID: 0x741D0374 PGP Key Fingerprint: C6EF EFA0 83B2 071F 1AB6 B879 1F70 4303 741D 0374 http://users.quadrunner.com/humble --Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME=synlim; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Content-Description: SYN rate limit patch for fbsd 3.1 Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME=synlim *** conf/options.old Sat May 15 23:08:03 1999 --- conf/options Sat May 15 23:40:21 1999 *************** *** 68,73 **** --- 68,74 ---- SYSVSHM opt_sysvipc.h UCONSOLE ICMP_BANDLIM + SYN_RATELIM # POSIX kernel options P1003_1B opt_posix.h *** netinet/tcp_var.h.old Sat May 15 23:25:39 1999 --- netinet/tcp_var.h Sat May 15 23:45:05 1999 *************** *** 40,45 **** --- 40,49 ---- * Kernel variables for tcp. */ + #ifdef KERNEL + #include "opt_syn_ratelim.h" + #endif + /* * Tcp control block, one per tcp; fields: * Organized for 16 byte cacheline efficiency. *************** *** 305,311 **** #define TCPCTL_RECVSPACE 9 /* receive buffer space */ #define TCPCTL_KEEPINIT 10 /* receive buffer space */ #define TCPCTL_PCBLIST 11 /* list of all outstanding PCBs */ ! #define TCPCTL_MAXID 12 #define TCPCTL_NAMES { \ { 0, 0 }, \ --- 309,316 ---- #define TCPCTL_RECVSPACE 9 /* receive buffer space */ #define TCPCTL_KEEPINIT 10 /* receive buffer space */ #define TCPCTL_PCBLIST 11 /* list of all outstanding PCBs */ ! #define TCPCTL_SYNLIM 12 /* Rate limiting of SYNs */ ! #define TCPCTL_MAXID 13 #define TCPCTL_NAMES { \ { 0, 0 }, \ *************** *** 320,325 **** --- 325,331 ---- { "recvspace", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ { "keepinit", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ { "pcblist", CTLTYPE_STRUCT }, \ + { "synlim", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ } #ifdef KERNEL *** netinet/tcp_input.c.old Sat May 15 23:08:10 1999 --- netinet/tcp_input.c Sun May 16 01:33:51 1999 *************** *** 72,77 **** --- 72,85 ---- static struct tcpiphdr tcp_saveti; #endif + #ifdef SYN_RATELIM + static int synlim = 100; + SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_tcp, TCPCTL_SYNLIM, synlim, CTLFLAG_RW, &synlim, 0, ""); + #else + static int synlim = -1; + SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_tcp, TCPCTL_SYNLIM, synlim, CTLFLAG_RD, &synlim, 0, ""); + #endif + static int tcprexmtthresh = 3; tcp_seq tcp_iss; tcp_cc tcp_ccgen; *************** *** 98,104 **** struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); static int tcp_reass __P((struct tcpcb *, struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); static void tcp_xmit_timer __P((struct tcpcb *, int)); ! /* * Insert segment ti into reassembly queue of tcp with --- 106,112 ---- struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); static int tcp_reass __P((struct tcpcb *, struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); static void tcp_xmit_timer __P((struct tcpcb *, int)); ! static int syn_ratelim(void); /* * Insert segment ti into reassembly queue of tcp with *************** *** 130,135 **** --- 138,183 ---- } \ } + #ifdef SYN_RATELIM + int syn_ratelim(void) + { + static int lticks; + static int lpackets; + int dticks; + + /* + * Return ok status if feature disabled or argument out of + * ranage. + */ + + if (synlim <= 0) + return(0); + + dticks = ticks - lticks; + + /* + * reset stats when cumulative dt exceeds one second. + */ + + if ((unsigned int)dticks > hz) { + if (lpackets > synlim) + printf("syn rate limit reached %d/%d pps\n", lpackets, synlim); + lticks = ticks; + lpackets = 0; + } + + /* + * bump packet count + */ + + if (++lpackets > synlim) { + return(-1); + } + + return(0); + } + #endif + static int tcp_reass(tp, ti, m) register struct tcpcb *tp; *************** *** 379,384 **** --- 427,438 ---- ip_fw_fwd_addr = NULL; } else #endif /* IPFIREWALL_FORWARD */ + + #ifdef SYN_RATELIM + if ((tiflags & TH_SYN) && !(tiflags & TH_ACK)) + if (syn_ratelim() < 0) + goto drop; + #endif inp = in_pcblookup_hash(&tcbinfo, ti->ti_src, ti->ti_sport, ti->ti_dst, ti->ti_dport, 1); --Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ)-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 11:45:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M12.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD3B14E24 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00442 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:47:05 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <373C6FA4.4EAAE0C4@prime.net.ua> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:47:01 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Oddness while switching between console & X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, this morning I've began to rebuid XFree86 sources to elf format. After rebuld & restart X (I run xdm), Just after switchig in X, it's fozen untill I rebooted by reset (I should not do that 'cos it was alive). Next start of X just did the same. But as I said earlier it was alive. It was pinged, ftp'd, smtp'd but its console & kbd was frozen anyway. Only after being ssh'd it became melted and did worked properly. Ok. Look. I switch from console to X with ALT-*. Turning into X kbd, mouse, screen becomes frozen until I remotly ssh this host (just after "ssh xhost" - no more). well, I turn into console. result is console, kbd become frozen again untill I remotly "ssh xhost". Etc. Being not switched between modes system works just fine. I'll resolve this prob anyway. But U, guys, what do U think about it? Seems like ssh protocol do some strobe making kbd, screen & mouse to become alive after switching from mode to mode. And only when ssh *starts* from remote. No errors in any logs, no traffic on lo0, just normal traffic on ed0 ssh/tcp. -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target ö80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 12: 7:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400FA14E18 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from dialup1.avias.com (dialup1.avias.com [195.14.38.68]) by main.avias.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA20882 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:07:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:09:12 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.31) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10964.990514@avias.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: keyboard problem in STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have 3.2-BETA. If I press keys while system is loading(before prompt occurrence) I get broken keyboard. Any keys and their combinations don`t work include Ctrl-Alt-Del. Only "reset" does. :( After series of pressing while I press Ctrl I have at the console next repeating string load: 0.14 cmd: login 289 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.023 0% 732k I saw the same problem at the CURRENT-FreeBSD 6-8 weeks ago. Does somebody has this problem? Bye, Juriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 12:14:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9814F2F for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01428; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905141912.MAA01428@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Juriy Goloveshkin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: keyboard problem in STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 23:09:12 +0300." <10964.990514@avias.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:12:08 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > I have 3.2-BETA. > If I press keys while system is loading(before prompt occurrence) I > get broken keyboard. Any keys and their combinations don`t work > include Ctrl-Alt-Del. Only "reset" does. :( I've seen this if you hit a key at just the "wrong" moment. I haven't been able to establish exactly which is the "wrong" moment though. It looks like the keyboard controller becomes confused or otherwise unhappy; I've no idea why. You should talk to Kazu (yokota@freebsd.org) if you want to help debugging this. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 12:57:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1CE14F31; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA03794; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199905141957.MAA03794@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SYN floods against FreeBSD (fwd) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Don't know whether this hit the list yet, so I'm passing along. Apologies :if it's old news. : :Note: I am not the author of the message; I'm just reposting it here. :Please remove my address from any replies to the -stable mailing list. :Thanks. : :SB Addressing the bugtrack posting and not the messenger :-) I think this patch is a bad idea. I recall fixing a bug in the route table code that could cause a double-free panic, but I do not remember if it was before or after the 3.1 release. In anycase, a double-free panic has nothing to do with a high volume of SYN traffic apart from ticking some new bug. The appropriate fix is *not* to try to limit the sync traffic but instead to track down, locate, and fix the double-free. I will go over the route table code to see if the softclock interrupt is being properly masked while the route table is being manipulated. -Matt :---------- Forwarded message ---------- :Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:35:43 -0700 :From: Richard Steenbergen :To: BUGTRAQ@netspace.org :Subject: SYN floods against FreeBSD : :Here's a quickie for the people who have been plagued with high bandwidth :syn flood attacks, a kernel patch for FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE which rate limits :SYN processing. Its messy but functional and I don't have time to make it :better (thats the fbsd developers job, not mine :P), cd /usr/src/sys, :patch < synlim, add "options SYN_RATELIM" (I highly recommend ICMP_BANDLIM :as well) to your kernel, recompile, and sysctl net.inet.tcp.synlim will be :available (default to 100). This is the maximium number of SYNs per second :that will be processed, the rest will be silently discarded. On my test :system (P2 450 running 3.1-stable being hit w/15,000 packets per sec), :this has successfully brought CPU usage from 100% to ~20% (against an open :port which is replying with unacknowledged ACKs). : :Which brings us to the more sticky topic of kernel panics when under SYN :flood (which I believe to be the cause of some earlier posts from certain :people at Exodus Communications *cough*). Lord knows I found enough of :them when doing this testing, but the one that seems to be the biggie for :crashing when under syn flood is as follows (heh just turned off the :synlim and panic'd within 8 seconds while writing this): : :panic: free: multiple frees :(kgdb) bt :#0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 :#1 0xc0138c09 in panic (fmt=0xc02192b7 "free: multiple frees") : at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 :#2 0xc0135aaf in free (addr=0xc0cdd600, type=0xc0239330) : at ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:333 :#3 0xc01768f4 in ifafree (ifa=0xc0cdd600) at ../../net/route.c:262 :#4 0xc0176876 in rtfree (rt=0xc34ce700) at ../../net/route.c:236 :#5 0xc0176c84 in rtrequest (req=2, dst=0xc34cbac0, gateway=0xc34cbad0, : netmask=0x0, flags=393223, ret_nrt=0x0) at ../../net/route.c:536 :#6 0xc017b34d in in_rtqkill (rn=0xc34ce700, rock=0xc0231610) : at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:242 :#7 0xc0176064 in rn_walktree (h=0xc0cd9e00, f=0xc017b2fc , : w=0xc0231610) at ../../net/radix.c:956 :#8 0xc017b3ec in in_rtqtimo (rock=0xc0cd9e00) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:283 :#9 0xc013d19b in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:124 : :Which after a quick examination seems to be a perioditic routing table :cleanup. It seems that in_rtqtimo is scheduled to run every :net.inet.ip.rtexpire seconds (which is dynamicly adjusted and can never go :lower then net.inet.ip.rtminexpire). When the system is under heavy load :from processing lots of small packets (they don't even have to be SYNs, :anything which can get routed will do the trick, though the packet kiddies :would get very little gain from just sending an ip header since its going :to be padded to 64 bytes for the eth frame anyhow), this route cleanup :code will go wacking at routes it shouldn't and free some memory twice. In :the course of testing I've gotten my rtq_reallyold to -3 and seen lots of :"tvotohz: negative time difference -2 sec 0 usec". Perhaps someone with :free time or more specific knowledge of this area would like to FIX IT? =) : :Perhaps when I get more free time I'll test some other *nix's. I would :really recommend putting all this rate limiting code at an ipfw level. : :If you would like to contact me regarding this please use :humble@quadrunner.com (at least if you want a quick reply), thanks. : :-- :Richard Steenbergen humble@EFNet PGP ID: 0x741D0374 :PGP Key Fingerprint: C6EF EFA0 83B2 071F 1AB6 B879 1F70 4303 741D 0374 :http://users.quadrunner.com/humble : :--Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ) :Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME=synlim; CHARSET=US-ASCII :Content-ID: :Content-Description: SYN rate limit patch for fbsd 3.1 :Content-Disposition: ATTACHMENT; FILENAME=synlim : :*** conf/options.old Sat May 15 23:08:03 1999 :--- conf/options Sat May 15 23:40:21 1999 :*************** :*** 68,73 **** :--- 68,74 ---- : SYSVSHM opt_sysvipc.h : UCONSOLE : ICMP_BANDLIM :+ SYN_RATELIM : : # POSIX kernel options : P1003_1B opt_posix.h :*** netinet/tcp_var.h.old Sat May 15 23:25:39 1999 :--- netinet/tcp_var.h Sat May 15 23:45:05 1999 :*************** :*** 40,45 **** :--- 40,49 ---- : * Kernel variables for tcp. : */ : :+ #ifdef KERNEL :+ #include "opt_syn_ratelim.h" :+ #endif :+ : /* : * Tcp control block, one per tcp; fields: : * Organized for 16 byte cacheline efficiency. :*************** :*** 305,311 **** : #define TCPCTL_RECVSPACE 9 /* receive buffer space */ : #define TCPCTL_KEEPINIT 10 /* receive buffer space */ : #define TCPCTL_PCBLIST 11 /* list of all outstanding PCBs */ :! #define TCPCTL_MAXID 12 : : #define TCPCTL_NAMES { \ : { 0, 0 }, \ :--- 309,316 ---- : #define TCPCTL_RECVSPACE 9 /* receive buffer space */ : #define TCPCTL_KEEPINIT 10 /* receive buffer space */ : #define TCPCTL_PCBLIST 11 /* list of all outstanding PCBs */ :! #define TCPCTL_SYNLIM 12 /* Rate limiting of SYNs */ :! #define TCPCTL_MAXID 13 : : #define TCPCTL_NAMES { \ : { 0, 0 }, \ :*************** :*** 320,325 **** :--- 325,331 ---- : { "recvspace", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ : { "keepinit", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ : { "pcblist", CTLTYPE_STRUCT }, \ :+ { "synlim", CTLTYPE_INT }, \ : } : : #ifdef KERNEL :*** netinet/tcp_input.c.old Sat May 15 23:08:10 1999 :--- netinet/tcp_input.c Sun May 16 01:33:51 1999 :*************** :*** 72,77 **** :--- 72,85 ---- : static struct tcpiphdr tcp_saveti; : #endif : :+ #ifdef SYN_RATELIM :+ static int synlim = 100; :+ SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_tcp, TCPCTL_SYNLIM, synlim, CTLFLAG_RW, &synlim, 0, ""); :+ #else :+ static int synlim = -1; :+ SYSCTL_INT(_net_inet_tcp, TCPCTL_SYNLIM, synlim, CTLFLAG_RD, &synlim, 0, ""); :+ #endif :+ : static int tcprexmtthresh = 3; : tcp_seq tcp_iss; : tcp_cc tcp_ccgen; :*************** :*** 98,104 **** : struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); : static int tcp_reass __P((struct tcpcb *, struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); : static void tcp_xmit_timer __P((struct tcpcb *, int)); :! : : /* : * Insert segment ti into reassembly queue of tcp with :--- 106,112 ---- : struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); : static int tcp_reass __P((struct tcpcb *, struct tcpiphdr *, struct mbuf *)); : static void tcp_xmit_timer __P((struct tcpcb *, int)); :! static int syn_ratelim(void); : : /* : * Insert segment ti into reassembly queue of tcp with :*************** :*** 130,135 **** :--- 138,183 ---- : } \ : } : :+ #ifdef SYN_RATELIM :+ int syn_ratelim(void) :+ { :+ static int lticks; :+ static int lpackets; :+ int dticks; :+ :+ /* :+ * Return ok status if feature disabled or argument out of :+ * ranage. :+ */ :+ :+ if (synlim <= 0) :+ return(0); :+ :+ dticks = ticks - lticks; :+ :+ /* :+ * reset stats when cumulative dt exceeds one second. :+ */ :+ :+ if ((unsigned int)dticks > hz) { :+ if (lpackets > synlim) :+ printf("syn rate limit reached %d/%d pps\n", lpackets, synlim); :+ lticks = ticks; :+ lpackets = 0; :+ } :+ :+ /* :+ * bump packet count :+ */ :+ :+ if (++lpackets > synlim) { :+ return(-1); :+ } :+ :+ return(0); :+ } :+ #endif :+ : static int : tcp_reass(tp, ti, m) : register struct tcpcb *tp; :*************** :*** 379,384 **** :--- 427,438 ---- : ip_fw_fwd_addr = NULL; : } else : #endif /* IPFIREWALL_FORWARD */ :+ :+ #ifdef SYN_RATELIM :+ if ((tiflags & TH_SYN) && !(tiflags & TH_ACK)) :+ if (syn_ratelim() < 0) :+ goto drop; :+ #endif : : inp = in_pcblookup_hash(&tcbinfo, ti->ti_src, ti->ti_sport, : ti->ti_dst, ti->ti_dport, 1); : :--Boundary_(ID_Gb/ZMISfT+tnDS1nELJmmQ)-- : : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message : Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14: 4:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.pdq.net (alice.pdq.net [204.145.251.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6D5614D31 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-225.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.225-10] by meg.pdq.net; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:04:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01a901be9e4d$115053e0$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: xl0 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:02:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A6_01BE9E23.27448B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A6_01BE9E23.27448B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm getting the following error message when copying files over the = network, from my Freebsd machine. It is running 3.1-stable and has a = 3com 905TX network adapter.=20 xl0: watchdog timeout does anyone know what this is referring to or how I can fix it? Any = input would be appreciated. Thanks :) ------=_NextPart_000_01A6_01BE9E23.27448B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm getting the following error message = when=20 copying files over the network, from my Freebsd machine.  It is = running=20 3.1-stable and has a 3com 905TX network adapter.
 
xl0: watchdog timeout
 
does anyone know what this is referring = to or how I=20 can fix it?  Any input would be appreciated.  Thanks=20 :)
------=_NextPart_000_01A6_01BE9E23.27448B00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14: 6:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clubserv.rp-online.de (clubserv.rp-online.de [149.221.232.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D19914F93 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as12-pri53.rp-plus.de [149.221.242.53]) by clubserv.rp-online.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25306; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:04:56 +0200 (METDST) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25876; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:15:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05164; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:05:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:05:49 +0200 To: cwasser@v-wave.com Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Message-ID: <19990514230549.E5010@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake cwasser@v-wave.com (cwasser@v-wave.com): > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > > CD-ROM not found!!! You should try to use it master or slave or together on the IDE primary with the hdd or without a hdd on the secondary and so on. I've had this, too, and then I rearranged the stuff and now it works. It could also be a BIOS problem. I remember something that my CD-ROM have not been recognized when letting the BIOS detect the CD in the harddrive-section. Or when it was a slave on a IDE-Interface without a master. And so on. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14:18:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E479F14D31 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00999 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:18:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <373C9312.880BF319@partitur.se> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:18:10 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ls -l shows groups numbers instead of names w/ NIS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! A fresh cvsup and rebuild of RELENG_3 yesterday. Suddenly I realized that ls -l shows output like this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen 60 848 17 Jul 1998 tempmail* -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen 20 59 17 Jul 1998 test.sh* -rw-r--r-- 1 girgen 1000 4760 11 Maj 10:32 tex-ref.dvi -rw-rw-r-- 1 girgen 1000 50154 11 Maj 10:36 tex-ref.ps instead of the usual way: -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen cyrus 848 17 Jul 1998 tempmail* -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen staff 59 17 Jul 1998 test.sh* -rw-r--r-- 1 girgen girgen 4760 11 Maj 10:32 tex-ref.dvi -rw-rw-r-- 1 girgen girgen 50154 11 Maj 10:36 tex-ref.ps This happens on all fresh systems; the ones still not updated works fine. Happens both on yp servers and yp clients... I can't verify if it happens on non NIS systems. What's happened? uname -a: FreeBSD workstation.partitur.se 3.2-BETA FreeBSD 3.2-BETA #1: Fri May 14 15:09:55 CEST 1999 girgen@tb303.partitur.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRUMPET i386 /Palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14:33:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (unknown [209.198.197.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C1414D31 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obonilla@voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu) Received: (from obonilla@localhost) by voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00725; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:32:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from obonilla) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:32:42 -0600 From: Oscar Bonilla To: Palle Girgensohn Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ls -l shows groups numbers instead of names w/ NIS Message-ID: <19990514153241.D315@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <373C9312.880BF319@partitur.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <373C9312.880BF319@partitur.se>; from Palle Girgensohn on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:18:10PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:18:10PM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi! > > A fresh cvsup and rebuild of RELENG_3 yesterday. Suddenly I realized > that ls -l shows output like this: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen 60 848 17 Jul 1998 tempmail* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen 20 59 17 Jul 1998 test.sh* > -rw-r--r-- 1 girgen 1000 4760 11 Maj 10:32 tex-ref.dvi > -rw-rw-r-- 1 girgen 1000 50154 11 Maj 10:36 tex-ref.ps > > instead of the usual way: > -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen cyrus 848 17 Jul 1998 tempmail* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 girgen staff 59 17 Jul 1998 test.sh* > -rw-r--r-- 1 girgen girgen 4760 11 Maj 10:32 tex-ref.dvi > -rw-rw-r-- 1 girgen girgen 50154 11 Maj 10:36 tex-ref.ps > > > This happens on all fresh systems; the ones still not updated works > fine. Happens both on yp servers and yp clients... I can't verify if it > happens on non NIS systems. > > What's happened? did you run mergemaster? you might have trashed your /etc/group regards, -Oscar > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD workstation.partitur.se 3.2-BETA FreeBSD 3.2-BETA #1: Fri May 14 > 15:09:55 CEST 1999 > girgen@tb303.partitur.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRUMPET i386 > > > /Palle > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14:36: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polio.ecst.csuchico.edu (polio.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36CF614D31 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 17667 invoked by uid 21024); 14 May 1999 14:35:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.2-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This might be too late, but here's a suggestion, how about turning off mail relaying (which is on by default) for 3.2-RELEASE Sameer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sameer Manek manek@ecst.csuchico.edu "They that will sacrifice liberty in exchange for temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." -Ben Franklin -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14:49:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7860151EB for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Message-ID: <373C99CC.FEC14AE0@loverso.southborough.ma.us> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:46:52 -0400 From: "John R. LoVerso" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kingston 10/100 enet (3.2-BETA) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------65E9E53CD4825308BF8B37F5" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------65E9E53CD4825308BF8B37F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to get a Kingston 10/100 ethernet card working in a Pentium II box. This card uses a 21140-AF, so I expected it should work. As it is, the system successfully probes the card, but never attaches it. I tracked this down by adding code in tulip_pci_attach() in all the places where it just returns on an error without printing a message. I found that it is the call to pci_map_port() that is falling, although I don't know why. The driver claims to "mostly" support any other PCI board with a 21140. Am I in the "mostly" grey zone? Any help would be appreciated. Anyway, FWIW, I include my minor changes to pci/if_de.c to print out several attach error messages. These would be useful to find out why the device is probed but not attached. I also include my boot messages, incase this is somehow a PCI or motherboard issue. This is basically a 3.2-BETA GENERIC kernel with "option TULIP_DEBUG" added. John --------------65E9E53CD4825308BF8B37F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="if_de.c.diffs" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="if_de.c.diffs" --- if_de.c_orig Thu Mar 18 13:47:28 1999 +++ if_de.c Fri May 14 17:28:26 1999 @@ -5652,8 +5652,14 @@ else if (PCI_CHIPID(id) == CHIPID_21142) chipid = (revinfo >= 0x20) ? TULIP_21143 : TULIP_21142; } - if (chipid == TULIP_CHIPID_UNKNOWN) + if (chipid == TULIP_CHIPID_UNKNOWN) { +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ + printf("de%d", unit); +#endif + printf(": unknown; vendorid=%d chipid=%d\n", + PCI_VENDORID(id), PCI_CHIPID(id)); return; + } if ((chipid == TULIP_21040 || chipid == TULIP_DE425) && revinfo < 0x20) { #ifdef __FreeBSD__ @@ -5673,8 +5679,13 @@ #if defined(__FreeBSD__) sc = (tulip_softc_t *) malloc(sizeof(*sc), M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT); - if (sc == NULL) + if (sc == NULL) { +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ + printf("de%d", unit); +#endif + printf(": can't malloc softc\n"); return; + } bzero(sc, sizeof(*sc)); /* Zero out the softc*/ #endif @@ -5747,6 +5758,10 @@ #endif if (!retval) { free((caddr_t) sc, M_DEVBUF); +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ + printf("de%d", unit); +#endif + printf(": couldn't map mem/port; csr_base=0x%x retval=%d\n", csr_base, retval); return; } tulips[unit] = sc; @@ -5805,6 +5820,10 @@ if (sc->tulip_txdescs) free((caddr_t) sc->tulip_txdescs, M_DEVBUF); free((caddr_t) sc, M_DEVBUF); +#ifdef __FreeBSD__ + printf("de%d", unit); +#endif + printf(": couldn't alloc rx/tx descs\n"); return; } #else --------------65E9E53CD4825308BF8B37F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg" May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: FreeBSD 3.2-19990512-BETA #5: Fri May 14 17:28:30 EDT 1999 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: root@fin.sitaranetworks.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/TULIP May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (333.05-MHz 686-class CPU) May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x650 Stepping=0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Features=0x183f9ff> May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: avail memory = 127180800 (124200K bytes) May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc033d000. May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: fxp0: rev 0x02 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:97:d8:69 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: de0: rev 0x22 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: de0: couldn't map mem/port; csr_base=0xc034 retval=0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: vga0: rev 0xf3 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 May 14 17:34:05 fin /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sc0 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ed0 not found at 0x280 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: fe0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: psm0 irq 12 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sio0: type 8250 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: sio1 not found at 0x2f8 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wd0: 3020MB (6185088 sectors), 6136 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wd1: 4124MB (8446410 sectors), 8938 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: acd0: drive speed 5512KB/sec, 256KB cache May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ppc0 not found May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ie0: unknown board_id: f000 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ie0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ep0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ex0 not found May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: le0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: lnc0 not found at 0x280 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: ze0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: zp0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: cs0 not found at 0x300 May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa May 14 17:34:06 fin /kernel: npx0 on motherboard May 14 17:34:07 fin /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 14 17:34:07 fin /kernel: changing root device to wd0s1a --------------65E9E53CD4825308BF8B37F5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 14:52:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3443F1543B for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14226 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.2/8.6.9) id OAA55591; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905142152.OAA55591@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's the new /boot/loader.rc equivalent of -P in /boot.config? Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 15:23:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D768B14CB6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02318; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 14:52:09 PDT." <199905142152.OAA55591@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:29 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What's the new /boot/loader.rc equivalent of -P in /boot.config? -P in /boot.config (This is the best place to do it) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 15:25: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E362614CB6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:24:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01258 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:24:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <373CA2A9.2D3964B8@partitur.se> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:24:41 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ls -l shows groups numbers instead of names w/ NIS References: <373C9312.880BF319@partitur.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well... Erhmm... I just recall... This is probably pilot error. I had problems installing, since libc.a was missing in the /ust/obj tree... so I remade with -DNOCLEAN. Probably that wasn't a great idea :-/ Remaking from scratch right now. Sorry to bother you. /Palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 15:46: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC93A14CB6 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA56515; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:44:57 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Found a Fix (was: Is aha broken?) In-Reply-To: <199905140459.WAA31457@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 3.2-19990514-BETA onto another box today and ran into the same thing. Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed (probe1:aha0:0:4:4): CCB 0xc3d25508 - timed out (probe1:aha0:0:4:4): CCB 0xc3d25508 - timed out aha0: No longer in timeout sa0 at aha0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 3.333MB/s transfers (3.333MHz, offset 8) changing root device to da0s1a da0 at aha0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0: 1006MB (2061108 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1006C) Sticking printfs into aha.c showed that before before the failure message sa0 was being queried first and succeeding then da0 was queried and failed. Removing the tape drive from the chain eliminated the problem. Adding a CD, with the tape and hard drive made it error twice. My PPro has a tape, CD, and two hard drives on the 1542 and it errored twice. I put a printf before the call to aha_cmd in ahafetchtransinfo and the errors went away. The all powerful DELAY(10000) fixes it for both of my boxes. :) *** aha.c.orig Thu May 13 03:00:34 1999 --- aha.c Fri May 14 18:01:41 1999 *************** *** 1777,1782 **** --- 1777,1783 ---- * the sync info for older models. */ param = sizeof(setup_info); + DELAY(10000); error = aha_cmd(aha, AOP_INQUIRE_SETUP_INFO, ¶m, /*paramlen*/1, (u_int8_t*)&setup_info, sizeof(setup_info), DEFAULT_CMD_TIMEOUT); -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 16: 1:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674D514E0B for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:01:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA47272; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:00:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA37025; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905142301.RAA37025@harmony.village.org> To: jack Subject: Re: Found a Fix (was: Is aha broken?) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 18:44:57 EDT." References: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:01:27 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message jack writes: : I installed 3.2-19990514-BETA onto another box today and ran into : the same thing. Dang. :-( : The all powerful DELAY(10000) fixes it for both of my boxes. :) Cool. I can't find anything in the docs that would explain why this delay is needed. Did you try the less powerful DELAY(1000) or DELAY(100)? 10mS is a long time to spin in the kernel (granted, it is only on the probe, but there are moves afoot to make that happen at any time now). There were similar delays in the old aha driver, but I seem to recall they were in different locations. I'm committing this fix (as soon as alc's lock in src/sys/dev/aha is released). It is a very strong 3.2 candidate for merging. What's the deadline for merge? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 16: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987C214C35 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA47285; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:01:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA37067; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:02:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905142302.RAA37067@harmony.village.org> To: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Is aha broken? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "13 May 1999 23:06:42 PDT." <199905140606.XAA01354@daemonweed.reanimators.org> References: <199905140606.XAA01354@daemonweed.reanimators.org> <199905121429.HAA01982@daemonweed.reanimators.org> <199905130418.WAA26127@harmony.village.org> <199905131443.HAA00961@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:02:23 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199905140606.XAA01354@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Frank McConnell writes: : problem. Why it worked for IRQ 9 (which is set the same way) is a : mystery to me. Sometimes the BIOS doesn't assign all the IRQs that it can, and if it chose to not assign that one, you'd get no conflict. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 17: 1: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277E614FA0 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA59971; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Found a Fix (was: Is aha broken?) In-Reply-To: <199905142301.RAA37025@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Warner Losh wrote: > : I installed 3.2-19990514-BETA onto another box today and ran into > : the same thing. > > Dang. :-( You're much more mellow than I am Warner. My comment involved sexual activity and a parent of the female persuation. :) > : The all powerful DELAY(10000) fixes it for both of my boxes. :) > > Cool. I can't find anything in the docs that would explain why this > delay is needed. Did you try the less powerful DELAY(1000) or > DELAY(100)? No, but I will. ..... OK, 1000 works but 100 doesn't. > 10mS is a long time to spin in the kernel (granted, it is > only on the probe, "only on the probe" was why I didn't bother to try anything shorter. > but there are moves afoot to make that happen at any time > now). That I didn't know about. > There were similar delays in the old aha driver, but I seem to recall > they were in different locations. The only place I see them on my 2.2.6 box is within loops. When the printf `fixed' this I did remember the one in this version for ..... (Alt-F1) the the geometry register in the 1542B. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 17:41:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C6C14E6C for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA61823; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Found a Fix (was: Is aha broken?) In-Reply-To: <199905142301.RAA37025@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today Warner Losh wrote: > I'm committing this fix (as soon as alc's lock in src/sys/dev/aha is > released). It is a very strong 3.2 candidate for merging. What's the > deadline for merge? s/What's/When was/ Edit src/COPYRIGHT,v Add tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.2 Edit src/Makefile,v Add tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.222.2.4 IIRC, Jordan is in Japan. It's the 15th there. Maybe he's building in a margin for the "12th hour" fixes. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 18:37:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513B14EE3 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18380; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA03336; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150137.SAA03336@vashon.polstra.com> To: mike@smith.net.au Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-Reply-To: <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith wrote: > > What's the new /boot/loader.rc equivalent of -P in /boot.config? > > -P in /boot.config (This is the best place to do it) I'm curious about how it fits together. Does the bootblock code pass the -P to /boot/loader, which then does the right thing with it? John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 18:42:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (stampede.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.45.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A57315643 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (sji-ca43-212.ix.netcom.com [209.111.209.212]) by stampede.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14475; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA39129; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905150142.SAA39129@bubble.didi.com> X-Authentication-Warning: bubble.didi.com: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: mike@smith.net.au Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com> (message from Mike Smith on Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:29 -0700) Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Mike Smith * -P in /boot.config (This is the best place to do it) Ok, thanks. Just rebooted the machine, it came up fine. :) -PW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 14 21:54:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from css.tuu.utas.edu.au (css.tuu.utas.edu.au [131.217.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F6215049 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iaint@css.tuu.utas.edu.au) Received: from localhost (iaint@localhost) by css.tuu.utas.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA14112 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:54:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from iaint@depravitas.tuu.utas.edu.au) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:54:11 +1000 (EST) From: Iain Templeton To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Small typo in 3.0-stable's src/release/texts/RELNOTES.txt Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thought that you might have missed this one, and would like to fix this before 3.2 comes out (assuming it hasn't already, I don't know the actual date). The word "Feburary" on the 5th line of the RELNOTES.TXT file is spelt wrongly. Iain Who can't remember whether that should be spelled or spelt, probably spelled, but I don't are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 1:18:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (196-31-98-240.iafrica.com [196.31.98.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67AAF14C9D for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id KAA22268; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:16:56 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905150816.KAA22268@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-Reply-To: <199905150137.SAA03336@vashon.polstra.com> from John Polstra at "May 14, 1999 06:37:40 pm" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:16:51 +0200 (SAST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > In article <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com>, > Mike Smith wrote: > > > What's the new /boot/loader.rc equivalent of -P in /boot.config? > > > > -P in /boot.config (This is the best place to do it) > > I'm curious about how it fits together. Does the bootblock code pass > the -P to /boot/loader, which then does the right thing with it? The -P is completely handled by boot2. The effect is to set the bootblock -D (dual) and -h (serial) options, if no keyboard is found. When control is passed to /boot/loader (and, because loader masquerades as an a.out kernel, the bootblocks are never completely sure whether they are loading loader or loading a kernel) the -h option causes a bit to be set in the "howto" flags passed to the kernel. So, the only outward result of -P is that (howto & RB_SERIAL) is non-zero, and this is what loader (or the kernel) reacts to. It's useful to have the -P or -h options in /boot.config in case control never reaches loader: both to see diagnostics and because, if /boot/loader is inaccessible, the bootblocks will attempt to boot the kernel directly. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 1:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ED414CD3 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:47:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id JAA17498; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:57:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05972; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:07:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905141807.UAA05972@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: keyboard problem in STABLE In-Reply-To: <10964.990514@avias.com> from Juriy Goloveshkin at "May 14, 1999 11: 9:12 pm" To: j@avias.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:07:15 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Juriy Goloveshkin wrote ... > Hi, > > I have 3.2-BETA. > If I press keys while system is loading(before prompt occurrence) I > get broken keyboard. Any keys and their combinations don`t work > include Ctrl-Alt-Del. Only "reset" does. :( > > After series of pressing while I press Ctrl I have at the console next repeating string > > load: 0.14 cmd: login 289 [ttyin] 0.00u 0.023 0% 732k > > I saw the same problem at the CURRENT-FreeBSD 6-8 weeks ago. > > Does somebody has this problem? Yes, I've also seen it occasionally. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 1:49:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52AF014CD3 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 01:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from dialup1.avias.com (dialup1.avias.com [195.14.38.68]) by main.avias.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA86170 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:49:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:50:56 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.31) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15535.990515@avias.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mysql problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, In last STABLE-freebsd mysqld 3.22.22 began to fall constantly with signal 11. Any ideas? Two weeks ago mysqld worked fine... Bye, Juriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 2:13:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB21015135 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from dialup1.avias.com (dialup1.avias.com [195.14.38.68]) by main.avias.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA97379; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:13:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:14:41 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.31) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5551.990515@avias.com> To: "Marcin Swietochowski" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odp: mysql problem In-reply-To: <004701be9eb0$9edba4e0$6c56f4d4@ilion.safenet.pl> References: <004701be9eb0$9edba4e0$6c56f4d4@ilion.safenet.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Marcin I know this, but I thing it is broken something. Why? I have not only mysql(for example squid). And fall only mysqld which uses libc_r. I will try to back out last changes in c_r on my machine and I will test my assumption. MS> always when I have signal 11, I have trouble with my hardware. Ussualy it is MS> RAM. MS> Not only in FreeBSD, on Linux too ;-) >> >> In last STABLE-freebsd mysqld 3.22.22 began to fall constantly with MS> signal 11. >> Any ideas? >> Two weeks ago mysqld worked fine... Bye, Juriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 3:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5057914F35 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 03:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 15 May 1999 10:42:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990515104210.25299.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Kernel PANIC in 3.1-R and higher To: , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, All! I was told that panic message: panic: lockmgr: locking against myself syncing disks... panic: lockmgr: locking against myself was caused by bug in softupdates code. Does anyone have a patch? Version of ffs_softdep.c from May 12 still doesn't work. $Id: ffs_softdep.c,v 1.20.2.2 1999/05/12 02:13:03 dg Exp $ With best regards, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 4:32:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5750D14E95 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA48735; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:32:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 13:32:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Sameer R. Manek"'s message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sameer R. Manek" writes: > This might be too late, but here's a suggestion, how about turning off > mail relaying (which is on by default) for 3.2-RELEASE It is not on by default. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 4:34:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFC914E8D for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA48748; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:34:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Robert Nordier Cc: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config References: <199905150816.KAA22268@ceia.nordier.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 13:34:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: Robert Nordier's message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 10:16:51 +0200 (SAST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Nordier writes: > The -P is completely handled by boot2. The effect is to set the > bootblock -D (dual) and -h (serial) options, if no keyboard is found. Unfortunately, the keyboard probe returns false positives on far too many motherboards for this to be of any use. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 4:36:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471E214E8D for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 04:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA48758; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:36:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Juriy Goloveshkin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql problem References: <15535.990515@avias.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 13:36:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin's message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 12:50:56 +0300" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juriy Goloveshkin writes: > In last STABLE-freebsd mysqld 3.22.22 began to fall constantly with signal 11. > Any ideas? > Two weeks ago mysqld worked fine... I can confirm that this bug has been present in 4.0-CURRENT for some weeks, and started occurring in 3.1-STABLE / 3.2-BETA a short time ago. Somebody should take a close look at recent MFCs in the uthreads code. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 5:48:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (196-31-98-125.iafrica.com [196.31.98.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F19014D03 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 05:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id OAA23595; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:46:38 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905151246.OAA23595@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "May 15, 1999 01:34:14 pm" To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:46:35 +0200 (SAST) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com (Robert Nordier), jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Robert Nordier writes: > > The -P is completely handled by boot2. The effect is to set the > > bootblock -D (dual) and -h (serial) options, if no keyboard is found. > > Unfortunately, the keyboard probe returns false positives on far too > many motherboards for this to be of any use. The new bootblocks don't do a keyboard "probe" as such. The present test is whether an "enhanced" keyboard is installed, as determined by the BIOS (any standard i386 keyboard qualifies as enhanced, except -- in some cases -- when running under i386 emulation). Whether this works is really a function of the BIOS rather than the hardware. It will inevitably require the keyboard is (un)plugged before POST, and some BIOSes may require that the presence or absence of the keyboard is explicitly noted in BIOS setup. The approach certainly does work in a substantial number of cases: and, where it does work, it is highly likely to work reliably (since, if any code understands the given hardware, it is likely to be the BIOS). However, if there is a concensus that the approach used in the old (biosboot) bootblocks, which attempt to interrogate the keyboard controller directly, gives better results in practice, I don't have any problem with changing to that way of doing things. A primary constraint, though, is that only ~100 bytes are available in boot2 for keyboard detection logic, by whatever means. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 5:58: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6986F14FA7 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 05:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA48990; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:57:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Robert Nordier Cc: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config References: <199905151246.OAA23595@ceia.nordier.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 14:57:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: Robert Nordier's message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 14:46:35 +0200 (SAST)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Nordier writes: > The approach certainly does work in a substantial number of cases: > and, where it does work, it is highly likely to work reliably (since, > if any code understands the given hardware, it is likely to be > the BIOS). Well, there are enough boxes out there on which it *doesn't* work that it should at least be documented in the man page. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 7:58:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (196-7-192-75.iafrica.com [196.7.192.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005AB15271 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:58:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id QAA24209; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:56:30 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905151456.QAA24209@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "May 15, 1999 02:57:45 pm" To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:56:26 +0200 (SAST) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com (Robert Nordier), jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Robert Nordier writes: > > The approach certainly does work in a substantial number of cases: > > and, where it does work, it is highly likely to work reliably (since, > > if any code understands the given hardware, it is likely to be > > the BIOS). > > Well, there are enough boxes out there on which it *doesn't* work that > it should at least be documented in the man page. If I receive any properly-substantiated reports to this effect, I'll give the matter every consideration. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 8: 3: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBA214BEF for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 08:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09077 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:02:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:02:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199905151502.RAA09077@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In list.freebsd-stable you wrote (13 May 1999 21:05:21 +0200): > The problem occurred again while running a memory intensive application (tripwire) on the system normally suffers these hangs this morning. It responds to pings, nothing else. I think it's time to try plan B again. > > Interestingly enough I was running the same application on another system with ~ 1/3 the clock speed (120 MHz v.s. 333 MHZ) and 63% of the memory (80 MB v.s. 128 MB). It's never hung slower system. Could it be that CPU speed contributes to this? Or could it be that the speed of the CPU in relation to the amount of memory installed on the system might be a factor? Did you try to set the RAM timings in your BIOS setup to more conservative values? Regards Oliver Fromme PS: Where did you buy that terminal that can display 380 characters per line? Awesome... ;-) -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 9:23:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D1814EC4 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA49452; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:23:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Robert Nordier Cc: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config References: <199905151456.QAA24209@ceia.nordier.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 18:23:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: Robert Nordier's message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 16:56:26 +0200 (SAST)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Nordier writes: > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Well, there are enough boxes out there on which it *doesn't* work that > > it should at least be documented in the man page. > If I receive any properly-substantiated reports to this effect, I'll > give the matter every consideration. Let me rephrase this: it hasn't worked on any box I've tried it on. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 9:37:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles550.castles.com [208.214.165.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2704D15027 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00553; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:35:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905151635.JAA00553@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Polstra Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 18:37:40 PDT." <199905150137.SAA03336@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:35:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In article <199905142221.PAA02318@dingo.cdrom.com>, > Mike Smith wrote: > > > What's the new /boot/loader.rc equivalent of -P in /boot.config? > > > > -P in /boot.config (This is the best place to do it) > > I'm curious about how it fits together. Does the bootblock code pass > the -P to /boot/loader, which then does the right thing with it? -P causes boot2 to probe for a keyboard (by checking the BIOS keyboard type flag), it'll then pass the result of this probe on to the loader. The advantage with doing it this way is that it gets the system onto the right console as early as possible, giving you maximum stuffup survivability. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 10:16:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles550.castles.com [208.214.165.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4447515290 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:16:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00767; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905151714.KAA00767@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Robert Nordier , jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-reply-to: Your message of "15 May 1999 13:34:14 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:14:16 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Robert Nordier writes: > > The -P is completely handled by boot2. The effect is to set the > > bootblock -D (dual) and -h (serial) options, if no keyboard is found. > > Unfortunately, the keyboard probe returns false positives on far too > many motherboards for this to be of any use. Not this one; you may be thinking of the PROBE_KEYBOARD option in the old bootblocks though. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 10:22: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051nc7.san.rr.com (dt051nc7.san.rr.com [204.210.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40DE14BE9; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051nc7.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12807; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <373DAD38.7C739B3D@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:22:00 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA-0511 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Josef Karthauser wrote: > Couldn't it read: > tcp_extensions="NO" # Switch RFC1323 extensions on? How about: tcp_extensions="NO" # Set to Yes to turn on RFC1323 extensions That would match existing style and be a lot more clear. I can submit a PR if anyone thinks that's really necessary... Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 10:25:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051nc7.san.rr.com (dt051nc7.san.rr.com [204.210.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7025214E03 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051nc7.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12830; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@gorean.org) Message-ID: <373DAE00.6A2388F7@gorean.org> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:25:20 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA-0511 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andyo@prime.net.ua, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster did nothing problem seems not problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > > In previous messages I wrote > that mergemaster didnt changes for me. But I've > forgotten that my new sources is in separate from > /usr/src (old 2.2.7-R) place. So I'm going to temporary > rename old /usr/src and symlynk my new 3.1 src tree > to /usr/src and restart mergemaster. I think things'll > go right :) Yes, mergemaster has '/usr/src/etc' hardcoded into the script. Since it's a bourne shell script you could change that path if you want to, but the preferred solution is to make your source directory /usr/src. I suppose I could add an option to specify the source directory, but I've never had a request to do that. Anyone else think that this would be worthwhile? It wouldn't be hard to do at all. Meanwhile, you should definitely read the man page for mergemaster. It explains in more detail how the program works. Also, my direct e-mail address for mailing bug reports is in the man page. Sad to say, I don't always have time to read every message on the freebsd lists, and although I try to scan for mergemaster related items I obviously missed yours. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 11:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pez.hyperreal.org (pez.hyperreal.org [207.181.224.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C22614E4E for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@hyperreal.org) Received: (qmail 32423 invoked by uid 4000); 15 May 1999 18:19:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 May 1999 18:19:43 -0000 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:19:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Behlendorf To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: maxusers/nmbclusters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For those running -stable in heavy production use: Anyone running maxusers > 128? Anyone setting nmbclusters >= 8192? I have a 2.2.8 system with maxusers set to 512 and nmbclusters set to 8192, and I'm *still* in need of more resources (e.g., a panic induced yesterday by "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers!"). I was planning on moving (through a reinstall, actually) to 3.x-stable, but I want to be sure I'm not chomping off more than can be chewed. I know about the panics various people have seen - I'm confident that'll be cleaned up. I'm more concerned about posts I've seen recently claiming "you shouldn't push maxusers > 128 on 3.x-stable" - I just wanted to know if this was dependent on any factors I could mitigate. Thanks. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 11:38:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AEA14F5F for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA49805; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:38:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Mike Smith Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Robert Nordier , jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config References: <199905151714.KAA00767@dingo.cdrom.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 15 May 1999 20:38:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mike Smith's message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 10:14:16 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > > Robert Nordier writes: > > > The -P is completely handled by boot2. The effect is to set the > > > bootblock -D (dual) and -h (serial) options, if no keyboard is found. > > Unfortunately, the keyboard probe returns false positives on far too > > many motherboards for this to be of any use. > Not this one; you may be thinking of the PROBE_KEYBOARD option in the > old bootblocks though. No, I'm thinking of the -P option in /boot.config. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 11:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles550.castles.com [208.214.165.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E432E14C9E for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01211; Sat, 15 May 1999 11:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905151852.LAA01211@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Robert Nordier , jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra), mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-reply-to: Your message of "15 May 1999 14:57:45 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 11:52:17 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Robert Nordier writes: > > The approach certainly does work in a substantial number of cases: > > and, where it does work, it is highly likely to work reliably (since, > > if any code understands the given hardware, it is likely to be > > the BIOS). > > Well, there are enough boxes out there on which it *doesn't* work that > it should at least be documented in the man page. You could perhaps actually tell us about some of these systems, since I have yet to see the new probe fail at all. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 12: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles550.castles.com [208.214.165.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB614C9E for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01275; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905151903.MAA01275@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: equivalent to "-P" in boot.config In-reply-to: Your message of "15 May 1999 18:23:20 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:03:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Robert Nordier writes: > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > Well, there are enough boxes out there on which it *doesn't* work that > > > it should at least be documented in the man page. > > If I receive any properly-substantiated reports to this effect, I'll > > give the matter every consideration. > > Let me rephrase this: it hasn't worked on any box I've tried it on. That's still remarkably content-free, and you know it. I think Robert's "properly substantiated" request is quite appropriate; I'd add "properly specified" as well. As I previously said, I've used it on a wide variety of systems with BIOS code from Award, AMI and Phoenix (including a very nasty Micronics OEM) with 100% success. Robert can probably give you some more detailed test questions, but to start with it'd be useful to know the usual. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 13:53:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69540153BA for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13650; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905152052.NAA13650@implode.root.com> To: Brian Behlendorf Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: maxusers/nmbclusters In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 May 1999 11:19:43 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:52:50 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >For those running -stable in heavy production use: > >Anyone running maxusers > 128? >Anyone setting nmbclusters >= 8192? > >I have a 2.2.8 system with maxusers set to 512 and nmbclusters set to >8192, and I'm *still* in need of more resources (e.g., a panic induced >yesterday by "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers!"). I was planning >on moving (through a reinstall, actually) to 3.x-stable, but I want to be >sure I'm not chomping off more than can be chewed. I know about the >panics various people have seen - I'm confident that'll be cleaned up. >I'm more concerned about posts I've seen recently claiming "you shouldn't >push maxusers > 128 on 3.x-stable" - I just wanted to know if this was >dependent on any factors I could mitigate. On wcarchive, maxusers is 1000 and NMBCLUSTERS is 100000. Don't try that at home, folks, without kernel modifications. With the change to increase the kernel VM in 3.2, you should be able to crank both up significantly. I can't say how much without doing a careful analysis of KVM usage. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 17:32:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.pentalpha.com.hk (unknown [210.176.109.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3AC152B4 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@pentalpha.com.hk) Received: from ras.pentalpha.com.hk ([10.0.0.153]) by server.pentalpha.com.hk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26810 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:32:19 +0800 (CST) From: danny To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help on network connection Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:25:52 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051608315800.00947@ras.pentalpha.com.hk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using a 3.1 Stable with squd 2.1 and connected to internet, However, due to link in China is not very stable, I found that the link was down during the night. When I come back to work, the system can not ping to anyone, and it resume to work after reboot. How can I fix it (I mean on the server, not on the link). Thank! Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 15 20:25:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA19114C87 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simko@maui.net) Received: from maui.net (U1-93.Kahului.Maui.Net [207.175.210.221]) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00497 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:25:37 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <373E3AB3.BE0EF340@maui.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:25:40 -1000 From: Michael Shimko X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Subribe to FreeBSD-stable mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please send me email relating to FreeBSD-stable. shimko@maui.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 3:19:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283A214D6C for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 03:19:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juriy@avias.com) Received: from main.avias.com (main.avias.com [195.14.38.65]) by main.avias.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA69824; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:19:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from juriy@avias.com) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:19:27 +0400 (MSD) From: Juriy Goloveshkin To: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql problem In-Reply-To: <373DA6AE.5DD9776F@prime.net.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 15 May 1999, [koi8-r] =E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA =F7. =EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB= wrote: It was configured, recompiled, recompiled... ;) It is falling at call longjmp() in libc_r... > It was configured & recompiled or rpm'ed binaries? > Juriy Goloveshkin wrote: >=20 > > Hi, > > > > In last STABLE-freebsd mysqld 3.22.22 began to fall constantly with = signal 11. > > Any ideas? > > Two weeks ago mysqld worked fine... > > > > Bye, Juriy > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target =C380) >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 7:43:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au (execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.220.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8572A1509F for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from alex@localhost) by execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03714 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:21:51 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 00:21:51 +0930 From: Alex Ardalich To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ports problem Message-ID: <19990517002151.A3632@gsm.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heyas, I upgraded to the 3.2-BETA 15-05 snapshot today and now if I try to make something within ports I get... : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ or a mirror site and follow the instructions. even after a ports-cvsup What did I break? Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 8:17: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pocahontas.pdq.net (mail.pdq.net [204.145.251.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4A651549D for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-214.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.214-4] by pocahontas.pdq.net; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:16:49 -0500 Message-ID: <001201be9faf$2d0a5e60$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: "Alex Ardalich" , References: <19990517002151.A3632@gsm.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ports problem Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:17:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try downloading and installing the ports archive. I got the same error when I went from 3.0-Release to 3.1-Stable and downloading the upgrade kit fixed it. It's on the mentioned page where it says "Download a gzip'd tar file of all 2359 ports " it's about 5 megabytes. Hope that helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Ardalich To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 9:51 AM Subject: ports problem > Heyas, > > I upgraded to the 3.2-BETA 15-05 snapshot today and now if I try > to make something within ports I get... > > : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh > make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ > or a mirror site and follow the instructions. > > even after a ports-cvsup > > What did I break? > > Thanks, Alex > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 9: 4:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au (execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.220.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A9314F59 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@gsm.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from gsm.adelaide.edu.au (ppp416.adelaide.on.net.au [203.16.208.160]) by execpro.gsm.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03447 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:43:12 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from alex@gsm.adelaide.edu.au) Message-ID: <373EECCD.308DAE69@gsm.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:35:34 +0930 From: Alex Ardalich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports problem References: <19990517002151.A3632@gsm.adelaide.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Ardalich wrote: > Heyas, > > I upgraded to the 3.2-BETA 15-05 snapshot today and now if I try > to make something within ports I get... > > : Your system is too old to use this bsd.port.mk. You need a fresh > make world or an upgrade kit. Please go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ > or a mirror site and follow the instructions. > > even after a ports-cvsup > > What did I break? oh, ignore me. The one partition I didn't spend time on merging after the upgrade was /var which has the os version file which ports was looking at. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 9:40:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614FD15065 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adepoo@tamnet.com.mx) Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by correo.tamnet.com.mx (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA28710 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:40:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:40:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: disk error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the following error at boot up Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0) No /boot/loader If I reformat to use ALL the disk for FreeBSD (no 62 sectors at front) then this error don't show. I need to have one FreeBSD partition and one DOS partition in this disk. The same error show with a couple of other disks, all of them Seagate Medallist IDE (one is 8GB and the other 2 4GB) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 9:43: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD19B14D01 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06470; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: hometeam To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports problem In-Reply-To: <19990517002151.A3632@gsm.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone using sniffit on 3.1 or 3.2 version my ports build and install ?> allthough I get a signal 11 after starting and menu appears. Msg: /kernel: pid 6460 (sniffit), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 10:49:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF46B14E40 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04702 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:50:15 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for make world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone who knows what they are doing to add. It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to print: make world finished Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that make World for XFree86 has this. The reason it would help me is because I start a make buildworld, then I leave the computer for a while (typically go to sleep as I do it at night). Well, for some reason when I get back to it the computer has rebooted or has been switched off - many reasons - brownouts, wife switches it off, system panics (yes I had those a couple of times). In all those times I fairly sure that my make buildworld/make installworld finished, but it would be nice to be absolutely sure. Thanks, Stephen -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11: 5:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B3514BF2; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darinm@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (ppp-1-101.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.101]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05579; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373F08DC.E83121@ipass.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:05:17 -0400 From: Darin Mercer Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions!@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: error making world. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Fresh cvsup 2 hours ago. make buildworld failing here.... ----------------------------- ===> libgroff c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/assert.cc -o assert.o c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/change_lf.cc -o change_lf.o c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc -o cmap.o /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:25: cmap.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: parse error before `(' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: `CMAP_BUILTIN' was not declared in this scope /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `cmlower' with no type or storage class /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: parse error before `(' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: `CMAP_BUILTIN' was not declared in this scope /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `cmupper' with no type or storage class /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:36: parse error before `::' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:48: parse error before `::' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:54: warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `initialised' with no type or storage class /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:56: parse error before `void' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. root on YouAreAt, 1999/05/16Sun 14:01:08 /usr/src > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11:30:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD9E14E40 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06793; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:31:22 -0400 (EDT) From: hometeam To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world In-Reply-To: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try using a log that will tell you. Also you can resume from there after fixing the error should one occur. Also Nik Clayton has an site on making world . check it out... http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html Excellent source of info... --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- On Sun, 16 May 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > who knows what they are doing to add. > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > print: > > make world finished > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > make World for XFree86 has this. > > The reason it would help me is because I start a make buildworld, then > I leave the computer for a while (typically go to sleep as I do it at > night). Well, for some reason when I get back to it the computer has > rebooted or has been switched off - many reasons - brownouts, wife switches > it off, system panics (yes I had those a couple of times). In all those > times I fairly sure that my make buildworld/make installworld finished, > but it would be nice to be absolutely sure. > > Thanks, Stephen > > -- > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu > 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu > Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu > University of Missouri-Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > USA > > Phone (573) 882 4540 > Fax (573) 882 1869 > > http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11:35:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D494714C3C; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:35:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07435; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:35:52 -0400 (EDT) From: hometeam To: mmercer@ipass.net Cc: freebsd-questions!@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error making world. In-Reply-To: <373F08DC.E83121@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG make update all --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- On Sun, 16 May 1999, Darin Mercer wrote: > Hello, > > Fresh cvsup 2 hours ago. > > make buildworld failing here.... > ----------------------------- > ===> libgroff > c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/assert.cc > -o assert.o > c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/change_lf.cc > -o change_lf.o > c++ -Wall -O -pipe -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc > -o cmap.o > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:25: > cmap.h: No such file or directory > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: > parse error before `(' > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: > `CMAP_BUILTIN' was not declared in this scope > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:27: > warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `cmlower' with no type or storage > class > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: > parse error before `(' > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: > `CMAP_BUILTIN' was not declared in this scope > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:28: > warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `cmupper' with no type or storage > class > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:36: > parse error before `::' > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:48: > parse error before `::' > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:54: > warning: ANSI C++ forbids declaration `initialised' with no type or > storage class > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff/../../../../contrib/groff/libgroff/cmap.cc:56: > parse error before `void' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > root on YouAreAt, 1999/05/16Sun 14:01:08 > /usr/src > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11:37: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE6114E40 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA05775; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:36:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373F1072.E4425E39@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:37:38 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hometeam Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, that is exactly what I was doing - I have a log file - the only thing is, when I look at it, it is not immediately obvious from looking at it that the make buildworld/installworld has finished, and has not otherwise been interupted. hometeam wrote: > > Try using a log that will tell you. Also you can resume from there after > fixing the error should one occur. Also Nik Clayton has an site on making > world . check it out... > http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html > > Excellent source of info... > > > --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- > the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- > --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- > > On Sun, 16 May 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > > who knows what they are doing to add. > > > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > > print: > > > > make world finished > > > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > > make World for XFree86 has this. > > > > The reason it would help me is because I start a make buildworld, then > > I leave the computer for a while (typically go to sleep as I do it at > > night). Well, for some reason when I get back to it the computer has > > rebooted or has been switched off - many reasons - brownouts, wife switches > > it off, system panics (yes I had those a couple of times). In all those > > times I fairly sure that my make buildworld/make installworld finished, > > but it would be nice to be absolutely sure. > > > > Thanks, Stephen > > > > -- > > > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu > > 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu > > Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu > > University of Missouri-Columbia > > Columbia, MO 65211 > > USA > > > > Phone (573) 882 4540 > > Fax (573) 882 1869 > > > > http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11:39:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1790914BE9 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12253; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:40:01 -0400 (EDT) From: hometeam To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world In-Reply-To: <373F1072.E4425E39@math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well there at the end will be errors if it fails look at the end of the log. --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- On Sun, 16 May 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Yes, that is exactly what I was doing - I have a log file - the only > thing is, when I look at it, it is not immediately obvious from looking > at it that the make buildworld/installworld has finished, and has > not otherwise been interupted. > > hometeam wrote: > > > > Try using a log that will tell you. Also you can resume from there after > > fixing the error should one occur. Also Nik Clayton has an site on making > > world . check it out... > > http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html > > > > Excellent source of info... > > > > > > --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- > > the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- > > --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- > > > > On Sun, 16 May 1999, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > > > > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > > > who knows what they are doing to add. > > > > > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > > > print: > > > > > > make world finished > > > > > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > > > make World for XFree86 has this. > > > > > > The reason it would help me is because I start a make buildworld, then > > > I leave the computer for a while (typically go to sleep as I do it at > > > night). Well, for some reason when I get back to it the computer has > > > rebooted or has been switched off - many reasons - brownouts, wife switches > > > it off, system panics (yes I had those a couple of times). In all those > > > times I fairly sure that my make buildworld/make installworld finished, > > > but it would be nice to be absolutely sure. > > > > > > Thanks, Stephen > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu > > > 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu > > > Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu > > > University of Missouri-Columbia > > > Columbia, MO 65211 > > > USA > > > > > > Phone (573) 882 4540 > > > Fax (573) 882 1869 > > > > > > http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > > Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu > 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu > Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu > University of Missouri-Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > USA > > Phone (573) 882 4540 > Fax (573) 882 1869 > > http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 11:49:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E2A14BE9 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:49:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA06056 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:49:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373F1374.3CE09AA0@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:50:28 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: problem with building GENERIC References: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just CTMed to the latest sources (3.2-STABLE - May 16 1999 src-3.0141.gz) - when I tried to make the GENERIC kernel by doing cd /sys/i386/conf /usr/sbin/config -r GENERIC cd ../../compile/GENERIC make depend make I get the message: cc -c -O -pipe -DCOMPAT_LINUX_THREADS -DVM_STACK -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf vers.c loading kernel ioconf.o(.data+0xbf8): undefined reference to `xedriver' *** Error code 1 Stop. I had just done a make world. My custom kernel build correctly. But I like to have an up to date GENERIC kernel lying around. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 12:54:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles551.castles.com [208.214.165.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0585A1512C for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07646; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905161939.MAA07646@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 May 1999 12:50:15 CDT." <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:39:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > who knows what they are doing to add. > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > print: > > make world finished > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > make World for XFree86 has this. We do: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> elf make world completed on Sat Mar 6 06:33:59 PST 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------- -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 13:15:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sid.c64.org (dial202-241.canit.se [195.190.202.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8201A15494 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jd@sid.c64.org) Received: (from jd@localhost) by sid.c64.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA60436 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:17:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jd) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:17:50 +0200 From: Johan Dalstrom To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems making world in 3.2-STABLE Message-ID: <19990516221749.A60420@fx.c64.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I cvsupped RELENG_3 today, May 16th. When I do: # cd /usr/src # make includes [snip] # make buildworld [snip] ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl sh config_h.sh Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/miniperlmain.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o miniperl miniperlmain.o -lperl -lm -lcrypt ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl find: build: No such file or directory find: build: No such file or directory mkdir: lib/auto: File exists *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 And then a few more. I've looked into it, but I can't seem to find the problem. Is this a problem for anyone else? Could it be a problem with 3.2-S, or is it just me? I'm looking forward to your replies. Regards Johan Dalstrom -- | Johan Dalstrom | mail: jd@c64.org | | Network/Security Consultant | mail: jd@sekure.net | | Powered by FreeBSD and caffeine... | http: c64.org/~jd/ | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 13:38:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brugere.aub.dk (ns.aub.dk [195.249.214.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE8E14BE9 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigchief@aub.dk) Received: from chief (8-33.aub.dk [10.0.8.33]) by brugere.aub.dk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA05258; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:39:58 +0200 Message-ID: <007101be9fdb$fe044720$2108000a@aub.dk> Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Klintrup?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Klintrup?= To: "Johan Dalstrom" , References: <19990516221749.A60420@fx.c64.org> Subject: Re: Problems making world in 3.2-STABLE Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:38:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi .... I've upgraded/downgraded a few times within the last few days :) (first 3.2-BETA by a mistake, then 3.1-CURRENT and now finally 3.2-STABLE :) try doing this : cd /usr/src make clean make buildworld * drink a lot of coffee and watch some telly * make installworld cd /dev sh MAKEDEV all that did the trick for me .. you might want to upgrade your /etc and /var/MAKEDEV command ... http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html has a great tutorial on how to ugrade the right things :) Søren Klintrup Network Administrator, Post Danmark MailHouse ----- Original Message ----- From: Johan Dalstrom To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 10:17 PM Subject: Problems making world in 3.2-STABLE > Hi, > > I cvsupped RELENG_3 today, May 16th. > When I do: > # cd /usr/src > # make includes > [snip] > # make buildworld > [snip] > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > sh config_h.sh > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/miniperlmain.c > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o miniperl miniperlmain.o > -lperl -lm -lcrypt > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > find: build: No such file or directory > find: build: No such file or directory > mkdir: lib/auto: File exists > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > And then a few more. > > I've looked into it, but I can't seem to find the problem. > Is this a problem for anyone else? > Could it be a problem with 3.2-S, or is it just me? > > I'm looking forward to your replies. > > Regards > > > Johan Dalstrom > > -- > | Johan Dalstrom | mail: jd@c64.org | > | Network/Security Consultant | mail: jd@sekure.net | > | Powered by FreeBSD and caffeine... | http: c64.org/~jd/ | > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 13:47:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polio.ecst.csuchico.edu (polio.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEE0B15159 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 1644 invoked by uid 21024); 16 May 1999 13:47:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Sameer R. Manek" writes: > > This might be too late, but here's a suggestion, how about turning off > > mail relaying (which is on by default) for 3.2-RELEASE > > It is not on by default. > I believe it is..if you recieve an email from foo@evil.com, hardknocks# telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.school.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 hardknocks.school.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.2; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:40:08 -0700 (PDT) helo foo.com 250 hardknocks.school.org Hello localhost.school.org [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you mail from: 250 ... Sender ok rcpt to: 250 ... Recipient ok data 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself see mail relaying is on by default :) Sameer manek@ecst.csuchico.edu . 250 NAA08044 Message accepted for delivery quit 221 hardknocks.school.org closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 13:54:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900D814EF2 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08908; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:53:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <373F308A.B94487FA@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:54:34 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world References: <199905161939.MAA07646@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, someone else told me the same. It is there for make world, which I had not realised, since I always do the make buildworld/installworld combination. I was just wondering if we could have it for make buildworld and make installworld. Mike Smith wrote: > > > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > > who knows what they are doing to add. > > > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > > print: > > > > make world finished > > > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > > make World for XFree86 has this. > > We do: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> elf make world completed on Sat Mar 6 06:33:59 PST 1999 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 14:20:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (196-7-192-123.iafrica.com [196.7.192.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC4F14C0F for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:20:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id XAA03812; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:19:11 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905162119.XAA03812@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: disk error In-Reply-To: from Alberto de Poo Bas at "May 16, 1999 11:40:41 am" To: adepoo@tamnet.com.mx (Alberto de Poo Bas) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:19:10 +0200 (SAST) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have the following error at boot up > > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0) > No /boot/loader > > If I reformat to use ALL the disk for FreeBSD (no 62 sectors at front) > then this error don't show. > > I need to have one FreeBSD partition and one DOS partition in this disk. > > The same error show with a couple of other disks, all of them Seagate > Medallist IDE (one is 8GB and the other 2 4GB) A disk error 0x1 indicates that at attempt was made to read above disk cylinder 1023 using the BIOS. You must ensure that your FreeBSD / filesystem is completely within the cylinder 1023 limit that the BIOS imposes, if you want to boot from your hard drive. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 14:49:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1565A14C91 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 14:48:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id AAA04179; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:46:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 00:46:18 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world Message-ID: <19990517004618.C835@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199905161939.MAA07646@dingo.cdrom.com> <373F308A.B94487FA@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <373F308A.B94487FA@math.missouri.edu>; from Stephen Montgomery-Smith on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 03:54:34PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How about the following hack: date; make buildworld; date :-> On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > Yes, someone else told me the same. It is there for make world, > which I had not realised, since I always do the make buildworld/installworld > combination. > > I was just wondering if we could have it for make buildworld and > make installworld. > > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > I have a suggested change for make world that would be easy for anyone > > > who knows what they are doing to add. > > > > > > It would help me a lot if the last thing that make world did was to > > > print: > > > > > > make world finished > > > > > > Similarly for make buildworld and make installworld. I notice that > > > make World for XFree86 has this. > > > > We do: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> elf make world completed on Sat Mar 6 06:33:59 PST 1999 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 15:34:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD94F14C45 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA53309; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:34:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 17 May 1999 00:34:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Sameer R. Manek"'s message of "Sun, 16 May 1999 13:47:23 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sameer R. Manek" writes: > On 15 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > "Sameer R. Manek" writes: > > > This might be too late, but here's a suggestion, how about turning off > > > mail relaying (which is on by default) for 3.2-RELEASE > > It is not on by default. > I believe it is..if you recieve an email from foo@evil.com, It is not. Read /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 16: 1:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9E31500E; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:00:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmercer@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (ppp-1-112.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.112]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05659; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373F4E29.66DA8507@ipass.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:00:57 -0400 From: "Michael E. Mercer" Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: error make buildworld: different output for make -n depend.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have two systems, both were running 3.1-Stable. I upgraded one yesterday. ( cvsup'd yesterday) No problems... However today my second system fails... here is the different output for make -n depend from both systems. As you can see the options -I and so on are not in the second system HELP! What am I missing here? Thanks Michael Mercer mmercer@ipass.net > make -n depend rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/../include -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DUNISTD_H_DECLARES_GETOPT=1 -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_PUTENV=1 -DSTDIO_H_DECLARES_POPEN=1 -DSTDIO_H_DECLARE_PCLOSE=1 -DHAVE_CC_OSFCN_H=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/include /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/input.cc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/printer.cc cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver; make _EXTRADEPEND > make -n depend rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/input.cc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/printer.cc cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver; make _EXTRADEPEND To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 16:42:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231C31576A for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (ident=ben) by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 3.00 #1) id 10j9qx-000Cc0-00; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:57:51 +0100 (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:57:51 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: "Sameer R. Manek" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <19990516235751.A48462@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sameer R. Manek wrote: > I believe it is.. You are mistaken. > if you recieve an email from foo@evil.com, The MAIL FROM command is not used to determine whether a host can relay or not. Sendmail uses the address of the connecting host to determine whether a host can relay or not. -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 17:21:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863D14BDB for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00728; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:21:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199905170021.RAA00728@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: ports problem In-Reply-To: <001201be9faf$2d0a5e60$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> from Clay Smith at "May 16, 99 10:17:11 am" To: blitz@pdq.net (Clay Smith) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:21:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: alex@gsm.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Clay Smith wrote: > Try downloading and installing the ports archive. I got the same > error when I went from 3.0-Release to 3.1-Stable and downloading the > upgrade kit fixed it. It's on the mentioned page where it says > > "Download a gzip'd tar file of all 2359 ports " > > it's about 5 megabytes. Hope that helps. But why doesn't a CVSup of the ports fix it? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 18:26:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85DA14FC7; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmercer@ipass.net) Received: from ipass.net (ppp-1-112.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.112]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23237; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373F704F.9E527A84@ipass.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:26:40 -0400 From: "Michael E. Mercer" Reply-To: mmercer@ipass.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error make buildworld: different output for make -n depend.... SOLVED! References: <373F4E29.66DA8507@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I had added CXXFLAGS into my make.conf file. Apparently this was interfering with the call to >make depend in the /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver directory. Actually it interfered in a lot of directories, however it only failed in the above mentioned directory. If anyone knows as to why this was happening, please explain it to me. Thanks Michael Mercer mmercer@ipass.net "Michael E. Mercer" wrote: > I have two systems, both were running 3.1-Stable. > I upgraded one yesterday. ( cvsup'd yesterday) > No problems... > > However today my second system fails... here is the different output for > make -n depend > from both systems. > > As you can see the options -I and so on are not in the second system > > HELP! What am I missing here? > > Thanks > Michael Mercer > mmercer@ipass.net > > > make -n depend > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/../include > -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_DIR_H=1 > -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DUNISTD_H_DECLARES_GETOPT=1 > -DSTDLIB_H_DECLARES_PUTENV=1 -DSTDIO_H_DECLARES_POPEN=1 > -DSTDIO_H_DECLARE_PCLOSE=1 -DHAVE_CC_OSFCN_H=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 > -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 > -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/include > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/input.cc > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/printer.cc > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver; make _EXTRADEPEND > > > make -n depend > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/input.cc > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver/../../../../contrib/groff/libdriver/printer.cc > > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libdriver; make _EXTRADEPEND > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 18:46:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945F14FC7 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA14701 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 21:46:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: Subject: Reboots w/ new ahc code Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01bea007$25b3ace0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all, I'm running a 3.2-STABLE kernel dated May 16, 20:37 EDT. I've got an Adaptec 2940 w/ an old Conner Python DDS/DC 4mm DAT drive (scsi ID 2) and an external Zip drive (ID 5). I upgraded earlier today from a May 8th kernel (and yes I did make the world). Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 seconds and spontaneously reboots. Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. I've checked the cables, the termination, etc. The bus is well within the maximum cable length. And, of course, it worked just fine with last week's code. My guess is there is some issue with the new ahc/aic7xxx code that was MFC'd on May 15th. I'd be happy to provide any additional information I can, but as the machine hasn't even booted yet when the problem occurs I don't have any core dumps or back traces to provide. Hoping to be of more help, Ben Greenwald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 19:48:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051nc7.san.rr.com (unknown [204.210.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356521525D for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051nc7.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25190; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <373F82C9.152EDBC0@dal.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:45:29 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dg@root.com Cc: Brian Behlendorf , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: maxusers/nmbclusters References: <199905152052.NAA13650@implode.root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Greenman wrote: > > >For those running -stable in heavy production use: > > > >Anyone running maxusers > 128? > >Anyone setting nmbclusters >= 8192? > > > >I have a 2.2.8 system with maxusers set to 512 and nmbclusters set to > >8192, and I'm *still* in need of more resources (e.g., a panic induced > >yesterday by "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers!"). I was planning > >on moving (through a reinstall, actually) to 3.x-stable, but I want to be > >sure I'm not chomping off more than can be chewed. I know about the > >panics various people have seen - I'm confident that'll be cleaned up. > >I'm more concerned about posts I've seen recently claiming "you shouldn't > >push maxusers > 128 on 3.x-stable" - I just wanted to know if this was > >dependent on any factors I could mitigate. > > On wcarchive, maxusers is 1000 and NMBCLUSTERS is 100000. Don't try that at > home, folks, without kernel modifications. > With the change to increase the kernel VM in 3.2, you should be able to > crank both up significantly. I can't say how much without doing a careful > analysis of KVM usage. We run our IRC servers on 2.2.x with maxusers set to 512 and nmbclusters set to 15000 and have for a long time. Higher settings seem to cause more problems than they solve due to the lack of the abovementioned kernel mods. HTH, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** Nominated for quote of the year is the statement made by Representative Dick Armey (Texas), who when asked if he were in the President's place, would he resign, responded: "If I were in the President's place I would not get a chance to resign. I would be lying in a pool of my own blood hearing Mrs. Armey standing over me saying, 'How do I reload this damn thing?'" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 16 20: 2: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30211523C for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 20:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adepoo@tamnet.com.mx) Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by correo.tamnet.com.mx (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id WAA20046; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:01:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:01:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas To: Robert Nordier Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk error In-Reply-To: <199905162119.XAA03812@ceia.nordier.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, that explain a lot, because some other disk don't have this problem but the geometry was diferent (like 787 cyl, 255 heads, 63 sectors). Other question, the geometry on an IDE disk can affect the performance or break something? This is because the above mentioned disk, to change the values to what they say in the case. On Sun, 16 May 1999, Robert Nordier wrote: > > I have the following error at boot up > > > > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0) > > No /boot/loader > > > > If I reformat to use ALL the disk for FreeBSD (no 62 sectors at front) > > then this error don't show. > > > > I need to have one FreeBSD partition and one DOS partition in this disk. > > > > The same error show with a couple of other disks, all of them Seagate > > Medallist IDE (one is 8GB and the other 2 4GB) > > A disk error 0x1 indicates that at attempt was made to read above disk > cylinder 1023 using the BIOS. You must ensure that your FreeBSD / > filesystem is completely within the cylinder 1023 limit that the BIOS > imposes, if you want to boot from your hard drive. > > -- > Robert Nordier > Saludos Alberto de Poo TamNet - adepoo@tamnet.com.mx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 0: 4:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsidian.noc.dfn.de (obsidian.noc.dfn.de [193.174.247.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3471552F for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@obsidian.noc.dfn.de) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29192; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:03:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <199905170703.JAA29192@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Subject: Re: disk error To: rnordier@nordier.com (Robert Nordier) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:03:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adepoo@tamnet.com.mx, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905162119.XAA03812@ceia.nordier.com> from "Robert Nordier" at May 16, 99 11:19:10 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, world\n # > I have the following error at boot up # > # > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0) # > No /boot/loader # > # > If I reformat to use ALL the disk for FreeBSD (no 62 sectors at front) # > then this error don't show. # > # > I need to have one FreeBSD partition and one DOS partition in this disk. # > # > The same error show with a couple of other disks, all of them Seagate # > Medallist IDE (one is 8GB and the other 2 4GB) # # A disk error 0x1 indicates that at attempt was made to read above disk # cylinder 1023 using the BIOS. That's an interesting and helpful bit of information. Is there enough room in that particular stage to print a message to this effect? Even if 0x1 is not guaranteed to be caused by exceeding the cyl limit, a hint like "Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0), may be caused by read beyond cyl 1023" With disks getting bigger almost everyday and BIOS limits cast in stone I expect this type of error becoming ubiquitous soon... Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.shuttle.de/schweikh/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 0: 8:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsidian.noc.dfn.de (obsidian.noc.dfn.de [193.174.247.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AD6150D7 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@obsidian.noc.dfn.de) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by obsidian.noc.dfn.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA29486; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:05:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Message-Id: <199905170705.JAA29486@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> Subject: Re: Suggestion for make world To: ru@ucb.crimea.ua (Ruslan Ermilov) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:05:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: stephen@math.missouri.edu, mike@smith.net.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990517004618.C835@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> from "Ruslan Ermilov" at May 17, 99 00:46:18 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # # How about the following hack: # # date; make buildworld; date # $ make buildworld && echo buildworld finished successfully Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.shuttle.de/schweikh/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 0:25:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141AD150D7 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id KAA18827; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:22:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:22:49 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Michael Shimko Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world failed after cvsup update Message-ID: <19990517102249.A14592@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Shimko , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <373F5CC3.E5F028D5@maui.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <373F5CC3.E5F028D5@maui.net>; from Michael Shimko on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 02:03:16PM -1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Redirected to -stable] On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 02:03:16PM -1000, Michael Shimko wrote: > Attached is a text file descibing my 'make world' failure. > Something about a psuedo-op section not valid for this target......??? > I've included my cvsup config file and make error message. > > Thanks for you help. > > Michael P. Shimko > shimko@maui.net > Dear freebsd: > > I've recently attempted to upgrade my 2.2.6 Release of FreeBSD to 3.1.0 > Release via the cvsup utility. Atfter successfully creating the source > tree i ran 'make world' which failed. Below are my cvsup config file and > error message from make. There's an unknown psuedo-op section for this build target....I don't understand. What went wrong and how do I fix it so I can run > 'make world' successfully? Use `make upgrade' instead. The details are in the /usr/src/Makefile. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 0:58:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C853815267; Mon, 17 May 1999 00:57:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id KAA27385; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:54:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:54:54 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Benjamin Greenwald , gibbs@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code Message-ID: <19990517105454.C14592@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Greenwald , gibbs@freebsd.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000e01bea007$25b3ace0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <000e01bea007$25b3ace0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu>; from Benjamin Greenwald on Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:46:56PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:46:56PM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm running a 3.2-STABLE kernel dated May 16, 20:37 EDT. I've got an > Adaptec 2940 w/ an old Conner Python DDS/DC 4mm DAT drive (scsi ID 2) and an > external Zip drive (ID 5). I upgraded earlier today from a May 8th kernel > (and yes I did make the world). > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 seconds for scsi > devices to settle, it waits for about 15 seconds and spontaneously reboots. > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external Zip drive and > fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > Just reboots or panics? > I've checked the cables, the termination, etc. The bus is well within the > maximum cable length. And, of course, it worked just fine with last week's > code. > > My guess is there is some issue with the new ahc/aic7xxx code that was MFC'd > on May 15th. I'd be happy to provide any additional information I can, but > as the machine hasn't even booted yet when the problem occurs I don't have > any core dumps or back traces to provide. > > Hoping to be of more help, > Ben Greenwald Contact : gibbs 1999/05/15 17:08:48 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_3) sys/pci ahc_pci.c Log: MFC: Use 'new' PCI API. Look at subvendor ID during probe. Use bus dma so this driver works on the Alpha. Revision Changes Path 1.5.2.4 +605 -256 src/sys/pci/ahc_pci.c Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_3) sys/i386/eisa ahc_eisa.c Log: MFC: Use bus dma so this driver works on the Alpha. Revision Changes Path 1.4.2.2 +21 -25 src/sys/i386/eisa/ahc_eisa.c Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_3) sys/dev/aic7xxx aic7xxx.c aic7xxx.h aic7xxx.reg aic7xxx.seq aicasm_symbol.c Log: MFC: Use bus dma so this driver works on the Alpha. Take advantage of the HS_MAILBOX register to avoid the aic7890/91/96/97 pause race during sync/wide negotiation. Revision Changes Path 1.16.2.8 +613 -367 src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c 1.5.2.2 +84 -53 src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.h 1.12.2.3 +12 -1 src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.reg 1.84.2.4 +13 -1 src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq 1.5.2.1 +11 -9 src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 1:22:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usgs.gov (igsmn002.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.41.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16E3E1545B for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) Received: from IGSMN-Message_Server by usgs.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 May 1999 01:22:54 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 01:22:31 -0700 From: "Robert Sowders" To: manek@ecst.csuchico.edu, ben@scientia.demon.co.uk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ] ]>>> Ben Smithurst 5/16/99 3:57:51 PM >>> ]Sameer R. Manek wrote: ] ]> I believe it is.. ] ]You are mistaken. ] ]> if you recieve an email from foo@evil.com, ] ]The MAIL FROM command is not used to determine whether a host can relay = or ]not. Sendmail uses the address of the connecting host to determine = whether ]a host can relay or not. By default relaying is turned of in 8.9x, for the straight poop see=20 http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/chk-89f.html#RELAYING there are also suggestions for granting it (relaying) if you want. ...when men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty = quits the horizon. Thomas Paine 1737-1809 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 2:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEBF14C4B; Mon, 17 May 1999 02:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id KAA43515; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:13:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:13:04 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Studded Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?] Message-ID: <19990517101304.A32313@pavilion.net> References: <373DAD38.7C739B3D@gorean.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <373DAD38.7C739B3D@gorean.org>; from Studded on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:22:00AM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:22:00AM -0700, Studded wrote: > > How about: > > tcp_extensions="NO" # Set to Yes to turn on RFC1323 extensions > > That would match existing style and be a lot more clear. I can submit a PR > if anyone thinks that's really necessary... I think that this is a good idea. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 5: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD7314D29 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA03599; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:59:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "Ruslan Ermilov" Cc: Subject: RE: Reboots w/ new ahc code Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:59:14 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bea05c$af218ec0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <19990517105454.C14592@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ruslan Ermilov > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:55 AM > To: Benjamin Greenwald; gibbs@freebsd.org > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code > > > On Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:46:56PM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > > Hey all, > > *snip* > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 > seconds for scsi > > devices to settle, it waits for about 15 seconds and > spontaneously reboots. > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external > Zip drive and > > fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > > > Just reboots or panics? > Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. -Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 5:19:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB38152D1 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 05:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id PAA94402; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:17:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:17:11 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Benjamin Greenwald Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code Message-ID: <19990517151711.C84342@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Benjamin Greenwald , stable@freebsd.org References: <19990517105454.C14592@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <001001bea05c$af218ec0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <001001bea05c$af218ec0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu>; from Benjamin Greenwald on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 > > > seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 > > > seconds and spontaneously reboots. > > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external > > > Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > > > > > Just reboots or panics? > > Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. > Be a hacker! Try to back out the latest Justin's (gibbs@freebsd.org) commit, rebuild the kernel (you don't need to run ``make depend'' again), and try with that kernel. You will need the following files/revisions: /usr/src/sys/pci/ahc_pci.c 1.5.2.3 /usr/src/sys/i386/eisa/ahc_eisa.c 1.4.2.1 /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c 1.16.2.7 /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.h 1.5.2.1 /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.reg 1.12.2.2 /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq 1.84.2.3 /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c 1.5 Do you have a local FreeBSD CVS repository? If not, I could send you these files. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 6:27:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C475714D93; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA05998; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:26:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "Ruslan Ermilov" , Cc: Subject: RE: Reboots w/ new ahc code Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:26:34 -0400 Message-ID: <001101bea068$e24a0fa0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <19990517151711.C84342@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruslan Ermilov [mailto:ru@ucb.crimea.ua] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:17 AM > To: Benjamin Greenwald > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code > > > On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > > > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 > > > > seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 > > > > seconds and spontaneously reboots. > > > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external > > > > Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > > > > > > > Just reboots or panics? > > > > Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. > > > Be a hacker! > > Try to back out the latest Justin's (gibbs@freebsd.org) commit, > rebuild the kernel (you don't need to run ``make depend'' again), > and try with that kernel. > > You will need the following files/revisions: Okay. I backed out the May 15th changes locally. The kernel without the changes works just fine. And just to double check, I booted the kernel with the May 15th changes again just to make sure the problem hadn't gone away because something else had changed... no dice. The problem persisted. So I think we can be pretty confident in saying the problem has something to do with the new ahc code. -Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 6:57: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E4F1504E; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id QAA18776; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:55:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:55:32 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: gibbs@freebsd.org Cc: Benjamin Greenwald , stable@freebsd.org Subject: [SOLVED,PR-COMING-SOON]: Reboots w/ new ahc code Message-ID: <19990517165532.B3078@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: gibbs@freebsd.org, Benjamin Greenwald , stable@freebsd.org References: <19990517151711.C84342@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <001101bea068$e24a0fa0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <001101bea068$e24a0fa0$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu>; from Benjamin Greenwald on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 09:26:34AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it's time for send-pr(1). Note, that this will affect 3.2-RELEASE as well. On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 09:26:34AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ruslan Ermilov [mailto:ru@ucb.crimea.ua] > > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:17 AM > > To: Benjamin Greenwald > > Cc: stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code > > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > > > > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 > > > > > seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 > > > > > seconds and spontaneously reboots. > > > > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external > > > > > Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > > > > > > > > > Just reboots or panics? > > > > > > Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. > > > > > Be a hacker! > > > > Try to back out the latest Justin's (gibbs@freebsd.org) commit, > > rebuild the kernel (you don't need to run ``make depend'' again), > > and try with that kernel. > > > > You will need the following files/revisions: > > Okay. I backed out the May 15th changes locally. The kernel without the > changes works just fine. And just to double check, I booted the kernel with > the May 15th changes again just to make sure the problem hadn't gone away > because something else had changed... no dice. The problem persisted. > > So I think we can be pretty confident in saying the problem has something to > do with the new ahc code. > -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 7:25:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.mfa.com (relay.mfa.com [199.88.143.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A0914F4C; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Derek.Inksetter@mchugh.com) Received: from wiex.mfa.com (wiex.mfa.com [10.1.10.9]) by relay.mfa.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA00884; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:23:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wiex.mfa.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Inksetter, Derek" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Problem burning on HP CD-R (stable) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:24:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running 3.1-STABLE (actually, it looks like it's up to 3.2-BETA now), and have an HP 6020 CD-R burner attached to an Adaptec 2940U. I've used this machine (running various incarnations of -STABLE) to burn CDs for more than a year with no trouble. I recently upgraded to -STABLE from 2.2.8, and (apparently) got everything to work. This is the only problem. Shortly after boot-up, I get this on the console: > /kernel: cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > /kernel: cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers > /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable After that, I can burn one CD with no trouble. After that, I get the following errors: > sputnik# cdrecord speed=2 dev=4,0 myimage $fname > Cdrecord release 1.8a20 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jvrg Schilling > scsidev: '4,0' > scsibus: 0 target: 4 lun: 0 > Device type : Removable CD-ROM > Version : 2 > Response Format: 2 > Capabilities : > Vendor_info : 'HP ' > Identifikation : 'CD-Writer 6020 ' > Revision : '1.07' > Device seems to be: Philips CDD-2600. > Using driver for Philips CDD-522 (philips_cdd522). > Driver flags : > cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable > error > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Bytes: F0 00 02 80 00 00 3E 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk -2147483586 (valid) > cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! The drive can be used to mount CD-ROMs just fine. It just fails to write any after the first. The situation can be fixed (at least for one disc) by rebooting, which is not the optimal solution. OOPS...I just tried something again. It looks like the drive works for writing after mounting and umounting a valid CD. Nothing else seems to get it back into gear, though. Any ideas? Derek -- Derek Inksetter McHugh Software International To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 8:22:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AAB155B2; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21719; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:47:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:47:07 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Inksetter, Derek" Cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Problem burning on HP CD-R (stable) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 May 1999, Inksetter, Derek wrote: > I'm running 3.1-STABLE (actually, it looks like it's up to 3.2-BETA > now), and have an HP 6020 CD-R burner attached to an Adaptec 2940U. > I've used this machine (running various incarnations of -STABLE) to > burn CDs for more than a year with no trouble. You may want to check for a firmware update for your drive on HP's site. Some burners will not burn more cdroms until you software eject the cd. hope this helps... cdrecord also has some specific notes about the philips cd-writers, you should review them. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 8:39:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BA3155B1 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA12418; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:39:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA56969; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:39:31 -0500 (CDT) To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with building GENERIC References: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> <373F1374.3CE09AA0@math.missouri.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 17 May 1999 10:39:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith's message of "Sun, 16 May 1999 13:50:28 -0500" Message-ID: <87aev3ln7w.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ** Stephen Montgomery-Smith on Sun, 16 May 1999 13:50:28 -0500 ** in [problem with building GENERIC] writes: Stephen> I just CTMed to the latest sources (3.2-STABLE - May 16 1999 Stephen> src-3.0141.gz) when I tried to make the GENERIC kernel by Stephen> doing Stephen> I get the message: Stephen> ioconf.o(.data+0xbf8): undefined reference to `xedriver' Stephen> I had just done a make world. My custom kernel build Stephen> correctly. But I like to have an up to date GENERIC kernel Stephen> lying around. The problem is that the latest sources overwrote /sys/i386/conf/files.i386 which tells config where to get the source for the xedriver. Add back the line: i386/isa/if_xe.c optional xe device-driver to your files.i386 and that should fix it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 8:58:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.mfa.com (relay.mfa.com [199.88.143.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2828214C20; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Derek.Inksetter@mchugh.com) Received: from wiex.mfa.com (wiex.mfa.com [10.1.10.9]) by relay.mfa.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05653; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:55:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wiex.mfa.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Inksetter, Derek" To: "'Alfred Perlstein'" Cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Problem burning on HP CD-R (stable) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:57:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 17 May 1999, Inksetter, Derek wrote: > > > I'm running 3.1-STABLE (actually, it looks like it's up to 3.2-BETA > > now), and have an HP 6020 CD-R burner attached to an Adaptec 2940U. > > I've used this machine (running various incarnations of -STABLE) to > > burn CDs for more than a year with no trouble. > > You may want to check for a firmware update for your drive on HP's > site. Some burners will not burn more cdroms until you software > eject the cd. > > hope this helps... > > cdrecord also has some specific notes about the philips cd-writers, > you should review them. Hmm...I've been using cdrecord on 2.2.x for some time with no trouble. It's just since the upgrade to 3.[12] that things have been failing. There don't appear to be any firmware updates on HPs site, and the cdrecord page doesn't mention any specific issues with this drive. I'll try the software eject trick and see if that helps. If anyone else is having consistent success with this drive, specifically writing multiple disks without mounting anything between writes, please let me know. Derek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 10:10:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEA114E04 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:wYnI4TmiFaiNTro5FrkdoyZRDkuptY6u@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id CAA15796; Tue, 18 May 1999 02:10:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id CAA02217; Tue, 18 May 1999 02:13:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905171713.CAA02217@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Mike Smith , Juriy Goloveshkin , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: keyboard problem in STABLE In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 12:12:08 MST." <199905141912.MAA01428@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199905141912.MAA01428@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 02:13:57 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> I have 3.2-BETA. >> If I press keys while system is loading(before prompt occurrence) I >> get broken keyboard. Any keys and their combinations don`t work >> include Ctrl-Alt-Del. Only "reset" does. :( > >I've seen this if you hit a key at just the "wrong" moment. I haven't >been able to establish exactly which is the "wrong" moment though. > >It looks like the keyboard controller becomes confused or otherwise >unhappy; I've no idea why. You should talk to Kazu >(yokota@freebsd.org) if you want to help debugging this. Yes, the keyboard and the keyboard controller and their drivers may be confused if a key data is stuck in the buffer at certain moment. The keyboard driver tries to flush data queue before initialized the keyboard in order to avoid this. But, apparently it is failing to do so for you. If this happens now, it must have happned before as well... I will see how we can catch and fix this. In the meantime, please do not hold down a key for too long while the system is starting up :-) Kazu PS: it this machine, by any chance, based on MediaGX CPU? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 10:23:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0C214E04 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA10521; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma009887; Mon, 17 May 99 13:22:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:22:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable weirdness To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, it's probably my fault, but I finally did a build/installworld to 3.2-STABLE (as of ctm 142). Everything went great, and I compiled a new kernel. The kernel won't boot. I get the following: changing root device to da0s1a changing root device to da0a error 6: panic: cannot mount root (2) and drop into the debugger. The old (3.1-stable) kernel works fine and can mount root. I DID mess around w/ /dev... did sh MAKEDEV all per the instructions, doing the ls | awk business before and after. There were no major differences. Please let me know what other information to include (I've attached dmesg from the successful -- 3.1-stable -- boot). Notice that it successfully changes the root device to da0s1a. Thanks for any help. SB Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Tue Apr 27 14:41:30 EDT 1999 seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org:/usr/home/seth/freebsd/src/sys/compile/KERNEL-F Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x653 Stepping=3 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 402653184 (393216K bytes) avail memory = 388853760 (379740K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.good" at 0xc02cd000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x00 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 16 on pci0.13.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:22:14:82 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x24 int a irq 17 on pci0.17.0 xl1: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:68:dc:ec xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.19.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 16 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci2.10.0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x01 int a irq 18 on pci2.14.0 ahc1: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! sa0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) changing root device to da0s1a cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates xl1: selecting MII, 100Mbps, half duplex xl1: selecting MII, 100Mbps, full duplex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 11: 5:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat193.13.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.193.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EF614F3E for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21532 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:05:14 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:05:14 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make upgrade from today breaks ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ld -N -Bstatic -T 110000 -o doscmd.kernel crt0.o AsyncIO.o ParseBuffer.o bios.o callback.o cpu.o dos.o cmos.o config.o cwd.o debug.o disktab.o doscmd.o ems.o emuint.o exe.o i386-pinsn.o int.o int10.o int13.o int14.o int16.o int17.o int1a.o int2f.o intff.o mem.o mouse.o net.o port.o setver.o signal.o timer.o trace.o trap.o tty.o xms.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -L/usr/obj/aout/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/aout -lgcc -lc ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a(): bad magic Anyone know what might be causing this? I'm running: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Mon Apr 5 10:27:27 And trying to go to a FreeBSD 3.2-X system...cvsup as of today... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 11: 6:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C5415109; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by snake.supranet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26529; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:06:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:06:44 -0500 (CDT) From: John Heyer X-Sender: john@snake.supranet.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AMD 53c974 SCSI Controllers in 3.X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi - I have an AMD 53c974 SCSI card and am running 2.2.8, and am looking to take my system up to 3.2 in the near future. However, I noticed this card is not yet supported under the new CAM subsystem. Is there any way I can work around this to use it under 3.x? I really like this card and would like to avoid buying a new one. -- "Your illogical approach ... does have its advantages." -- Spock, after being Checkmated by Kirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 11:25:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF3415357 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA48249; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990517112531.A48225@nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:25:31 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Douglas K. Rand" , Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with building GENERIC Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> <373F1374.3CE09AA0@math.missouri.edu> <87aev3ln7w.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <87aev3ln7w.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com>; from Douglas K. Rand on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 10:39:31AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The problem is that the latest sources overwrote > /sys/i386/conf/files.i386 which tells config where to get the source > for the xedriver. Add back the line: > > i386/isa/if_xe.c optional xe device-driver > > to your files.i386 and that should fix it. Since `if_xe.c' does not live in ``src/sys/i386/isa/'' this isn't going to be of much help. Did you actually test this "patch"? The real problem is that the `xe' driver requires "controller card0" to be in the kernel config file, and that conflicts with the `zp' and `ze' drivers. Thus you can have either `zp/ze' *OR* `xe', but not both. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 11:51:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B866D14DCA for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13799; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:51:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA63100; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:51:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Douglas K. Rand" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14144.25880.42633.857145@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:51:04 -0500 (CDT) To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with building GENERIC In-Reply-To: <19990517112531.A48225@nuxi.com> References: <373F0557.D3A2E838@math.missouri.edu> <373F1374.3CE09AA0@math.missouri.edu> <87aev3ln7w.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> <19990517112531.A48225@nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: $L%T~#'9fAQ])o]A][d7EH`V;"_;2K;TEPQB=v]rDf_2s%> The problem is that the latest sources overwrote >> /sys/i386/conf/files.i386 which tells config where to get the >> source for the xedriver. Add back the line: >> i386/isa/if_xe.c optional xe device-driver >> to your files.i386 and that should fix it. David> Since `if_xe.c' does not live in ``src/sys/i386/isa/'' this David> isn't going to be of much help. Did you actually test this David> "patch"? No, I admit to not testing this "patch". I just copied the instructions out of the README file for v1.16 of the xe-driver. But this is also exactly what happened to me last time I cvsup'ed to -stable. If if_xe.c has moved in later releases of the driver, I'm sorry for the confusion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 12:41: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (c2-31-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AE515330 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA06836; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:39:35 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905171939.VAA06836@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: disk error In-Reply-To: <199905170703.JAA29192@obsidian.noc.dfn.de> from Jens Schweikhardt at "May 17, 1999 09:03:38 am" To: schweikh@noc.dfn.de (Jens Schweikhardt) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:39:23 +0200 (SAST) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com (Robert Nordier), adepoo@tamnet.com.mx, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > # > I have the following error at boot up > # > > # > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0) > # > No /boot/loader > # A disk error 0x1 indicates that at attempt was made to read above disk > # cylinder 1023 using the BIOS. > > That's an interesting and helpful bit of information. Is there enough > room in that particular stage to print a message to this effect? Even if > 0x1 is not guaranteed to be caused by exceeding the cyl limit, a hint > like "Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x299cd0), may be caused by read beyond cyl > 1023" > > With disks getting bigger almost everyday and BIOS limits cast in stone > I expect this type of error becoming ubiquitous soon... As boot2 must fit into 7168 bytes of preallocated space, there's unfortunately not room for anything less cryptic. But some discussion of the diagnostics on the man page would probably be good idea. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 13: 5:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ceia.nordier.com (c2-31-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3827C1500D for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id WAA07125; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:04:55 +0200 (SAST) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199905172004.WAA07125@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: disk error In-Reply-To: from Alberto de Poo Bas at "May 16, 1999 10:01:47 pm" To: adepoo@tamnet.com.mx (Alberto de Poo Bas) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:04:44 +0200 (SAST) Cc: rnordier@nordier.com (Robert Nordier), stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alberto de Poo Bas wrote: > Thanks, that explain a lot, because some other disk don't have this > problem but the geometry was diferent (like 787 cyl, 255 heads, 63 > sectors). > > Other question, the geometry on an IDE disk can affect the performance or > break something? This is because the above mentioned disk, to change the > values to what they say in the case. There should be no performance difference (and, as far as most 32-bit OSes are concerned, the BIOS geometry tends to be used only while booting, anyway). As far as breaking something: changing the geometry will quite likely mess up your fdisk partition table ("slice table" in FreeBSD terminology). Each slice has a cylinder, head, sector (CHS) starting address and, if the geometry is changed, the CHS values won't necessary resolve to the same block address. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 15:35: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA7F14FD4 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id SAA24669; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma024611; Mon, 17 May 99 18:34:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:34:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable weirdness In-reply-to: To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry to follow up (I've deleted the dmesg output), but I thought I'd share this info: The Adaptec 7890 is not being detected with the new kernel. That's the issue. (The 7890 is on the motherboard.) Both HD's are on the 7890; the CD and the tape are on the 7880 (which IS being recognized as ahc0 -- ahc0 is supposed to be the 7890.) SB On Mon, 17 May 1999, Seth wrote: > OK, it's probably my fault, but I finally did a build/installworld to > 3.2-STABLE (as of ctm 142). Everything went great, and I compiled a new > kernel. > > The kernel won't boot. I get the following: > > changing root device to da0s1a > changing root device to da0a > error 6: panic: cannot mount root (2) > > and drop into the debugger. > > The old (3.1-stable) kernel works fine and can mount root. > > I DID mess around w/ /dev... did sh MAKEDEV all per the instructions, > doing the ls | awk business before and after. There were no major > differences. > > Please let me know what other information to include (I've attached > dmesg from the successful -- 3.1-stable -- boot). Notice that it > successfully changes the root device to da0s1a. > > > Thanks for any help. > > SB > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 16:17: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EC5151CE for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 650612EE1A; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 2360 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199905152052.NAA13650@implode.root.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: David Greenman Subject: Re: maxusers/nmbclusters Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Behlendorf Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That David Greenman wrote: >>For those running -stable in heavy production use: >> >>Anyone running maxusers > 128? >>Anyone setting nmbclusters >=3D 8192? >> >>I have a 2.2.8 system with maxusers set to 512 and nmbclusters set to >>8192, and I'm *still* in need of more resources (e.g., a panic induced >>yesterday by "Out of mbuf clusters - increase maxusers!"). I was plannin= g >>on moving (through a reinstall, actually) to 3.x-stable, but I want to be >>sure I'm not chomping off more than can be chewed. I know about the >>panics various people have seen - I'm confident that'll be cleaned up. >>I'm more concerned about posts I've seen recently claiming "you shouldn't >>push maxusers > 128 on 3.x-stable" - I just wanted to know if this was >>dependent on any factors I could mitigate. >=20 > On wcarchive, maxusers is 1000 and NMBCLUSTERS is 100000. Don't try th= at > at > home, folks, without kernel modifications. > With the change to increase the kernel VM in 3.2, you should be able t= o > crank both up significantly. I can't say how much without doing a careful > analysis of KVM usage. >=20 > -DG I have read that if you have needs that would require turning up NMBcluste= rs, and certain sysctl options, etc, that you should do so independantly and no= t increase maxusers up much above 256. Will that recomendation change with 3.= 2 as well? Thanks Nicole >=20 > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.= org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.c= om >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 17:33:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6176915146 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id UAA08281; Mon, 17 May 1999 20:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma008267; Mon, 17 May 99 20:33:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable weirdness In-reply-to: To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I'm following up again. The problem has been fixed with version 1.5.2.5 of sys/pci/aha_pci.c. Thanks to all who helped me track down this problem, and especially to the people who fixed it! SB On Mon, 17 May 1999, Seth wrote: > Sorry to follow up (I've deleted the dmesg output), but I thought I'd > share this info: > > The Adaptec 7890 is not being detected with the new kernel. That's the > issue. (The 7890 is on the motherboard.) Both HD's are on the 7890; the > CD and the tape are on the 7880 (which IS being recognized as ahc0 -- ahc0 > is supposed to be the 7890.) > > SB > > On Mon, 17 May 1999, Seth wrote: > > > OK, it's probably my fault, but I finally did a build/installworld to > > 3.2-STABLE (as of ctm 142). Everything went great, and I compiled a new > > kernel. > > > > The kernel won't boot. I get the following: > > > > changing root device to da0s1a > > changing root device to da0a > > error 6: panic: cannot mount root (2) > > > > and drop into the debugger. > > > > The old (3.1-stable) kernel works fine and can mount root. > > > > I DID mess around w/ /dev... did sh MAKEDEV all per the instructions, > > doing the ls | awk business before and after. There were no major > > differences. > > > > Please let me know what other information to include (I've attached > > dmesg from the successful -- 3.1-stable -- boot). Notice that it > > successfully changes the root device to da0s1a. > > > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > SB > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 18:58:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACBF14CFD for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19665; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905180158.SAA19665@implode.root.com> To: Nicole Harrington Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Behlendorf Subject: Re: maxusers/nmbclusters In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 May 1999 16:16:59 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:58:06 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have read that if you have needs that would require turning up NMBclusters, >and certain sysctl options, etc, that you should do so independantly and not >increase maxusers up much above 256. Will that recomendation change with 3.2 as >well? If you specify NMBCLUSTERS, then you only need to tune maxusers for increased number of processes (nproc = 16 * maxusers). This is true in all versions of FreeBSD. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 19:28:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.portal2.com (ns1.portal2.com [203.85.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D579914E96 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 19:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yusufg@outblaze.com) Received: (qmail 20485 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 02:46:45 -0000 Received: from yusufg.portal2.com (203.85.226.249) by ns1.portal2.com with SMTP; 18 May 1999 02:46:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 20448 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 1999 02:28:41 -0000 Date: 18 May 1999 02:28:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518022841.20447.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> From: Yusuf Goolamabbas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange messages with DPT controller on 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup 3.2-STABLE yesterday on a box containing the DPT SMARTRAID IV PM3334UW attached to 6 9GB disks in a RAID-5 configuration. The RAID partition is NFS exported Today, I see the following message on the console and the system is locked up tight. I have to do a reboot (da0: dpt0: 0:0:0) CCB: 0xC550807c - timed out (da0: dpt0: 0:0:0) CCB: 0xC5508744 - timed out Similar messages also occured last week. This machine was running for a long time on 3.1-RELEASE. I started tracking stable on this and such locks started to occur Any ideas, Yusuf -- Yusuf Goolamabbas yusufg@outblaze.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 17 23:38:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7162F15345; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA32546; Tue, 18 May 1999 00:38:24 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905180638.AAA32546@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: AMD 53c974 SCSI Controllers in 3.X In-Reply-To: from John Heyer at "May 17, 1999 1: 6:44 pm" To: john@arnie.jfive.com (John Heyer) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Heyer wrote... > > Hi - I have an AMD 53c974 SCSI card and am running 2.2.8, and am looking > to take my system up to 3.2 in the near future. However, I noticed this > card is not yet supported under the new CAM subsystem. Is there any way I > can work around this to use it under 3.x? I really like this card and > would like to avoid buying a new one. Yeah, there is a driver, but Justin is in the middle of revamping it and it didn't make it in the tree in time for 3.2. Mail gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG and ask him for the latest version of the amd driver. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 2: 9:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F6915259 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 02:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02134 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:09:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <05ae01bea10e$0fde6600$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:08:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05AB_01BEA116.71813C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01BEA116.71813C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK after 4 days 21 hours and installing DDB_UNATTENDED into the kernel I = got the following (~ 9 May 1999 3.1-Stable, Apache 1.3.6 =3D httpd ) Fatal trape 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address =3D 0xf469b2dc fault code=3Dsupervisor write,page not present. instruction pointer =3D0x8 : 0xf0208a9c stack pointer =3D 0x10 : 0xf6d59f04 frame pointer =3D 0 x 10 : 0xf6d59f14 code segment =3D base 0 x 0, unit 0 x fffff, type 0 x 1b =3Ddpl 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor of lags =3D interupt enabled, resume,=20 10pl =3D 0. current process =3D 58364 (inttpd) interrupt mask =3D net tty bio cam kernel : type 12 trap , code =3D 0 Stopped at p map-remove - pages + 0xe8 : mov | %eax, 0(%edx) db> pmap - remove-pages ( - ) at pmap - remove - pages + 0x e8 exit ! e Thanks Greg. ------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01BEA116.71813C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK after 4 days 21 hours and installing = DDB_UNATTENDED into=20 the kernel I got the following
(~ 9 May 1999 3.1-Stable, Apache 1.3.6 =3D httpd = )
 
 
Fatal trape = 12: page fault=20 while in kernel mode
fault virtual = address =3D=20 0xf469b2dc
fault code=3Dsupervisor write,page not = present.
instruction pointer =3D0x8 : 0xf0208a9c
stack pointer =3D 0x10 : 0xf6d59f04
frame pointer =3D 0 x 10 : 0xf6d59f14
code segment =3D base 0 x 0, unit 0 x = fffff,
          &nbs= p;            = ;=20 type 0 x 1b
          &nbs= p;          =20 =3Ddpl 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor of = lags =3D interupt=20 enabled, resume,
          &nbs= p;            = ;   =20 10pl =3D 0.
current = process =3D 58364=20 (inttpd)
interrupt mask =3D net tty bio cam
kernel : type 12 trap , code =3D 0
Stopped at p map-remove - pages + 0xe8 : mov | %eax, = 0(%edx)=20 db>
    pmap -=20 remove-pages ( - )
        at=20 pmap - remove - pages + 0x e8
exit = !
e
 
Thanks Greg.
 
------=_NextPart_000_05AB_01BEA116.71813C40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 2:13:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2297215259 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 02:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id SAA02016; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:43:27 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA08826; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:44:16 +0930 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:44:16 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Studded Cc: andyo@prime.net.ua, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster did nothing problem seems not problem In-Reply-To: <373DAE00.6A2388F7@gorean.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 15 May 1999, Studded wrote: > Yes, mergemaster has '/usr/src/etc' hardcoded into the script. Since it's > a bourne shell script you could change that path if you want to, but the > preferred solution is to make your source directory /usr/src. I suppose I > could add an option to specify the source directory, but I've never had a > request to do that. Anyone else think that this would be worthwhile? It > wouldn't be hard to do at all. I wanted to do this the other day - I have three checked-out trees on my machine at the moment (3.2, 4.0 pristine and 4.0 + my local mods). It'd be nice to be able to select between them without having to move symlinks around or hack the script. Kris ----- "That suit's sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde witticisms that's been rolled up into a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" "Wow, that's sharp!" - Ace Rimmer and the Cat, _Red Dwarf_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 5: 6:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from k6n1.znh.org (unknown [207.109.235.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0578D15652 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 05:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA02729; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:06:22 GMT (envelope-from zach) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:06:22 -0500 From: Zach Heilig To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make upgrade from today breaks ... Message-ID: <19990518070622.A2452@k6n1.znh.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:05:14PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:05:14PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: ... > Anyone know what might be causing this? I'm running: It's a problem from mixing aout and elf libraries/object files (the X libraries are aout, doscmd is elf). Comment out doscmd from the build, and it should work. (edit /usr/src/usr.bin/Makefile, and remove the doscmd line), you can build it later if you need it. -- Zach Heilig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 6:16: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from samain.fas.ru (samain.fas.ru [195.208.92.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C99153D1 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alick@samain.fas.ru) Received: (from alick@localhost) by samain.fas.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA00389 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from alick) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:40 +0400 From: Oleg Amiton To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel Message-ID: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-System: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 on samain.fas.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've upgraded system from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE. Just compiled 3.2-STABLE kernel not recognized as loadable on boot, but loaded succesfully after make. So, maybe anyone knows, what are the reasons? Error message is: /kernel text=0x119656 elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed can't load module /kernel: input/output error -- WBR, Oleg Amiton mailto: alick@fas.ru Federal Air Service Network tel. +7(095)155-64-84 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 6:20:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C999A153D1 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu ("port 1035"@jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #30976) with ESMTP id <0FBX008ESJOAO8@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:19:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:19:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: What changed between 3.2 yesterday and today To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just went to ftp.freebsd.org, and looked at the mod dates on FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE, and found them to be current as of today. I downloaded and installed 3.2-RELEASE yesterday (I know, before the official announcement), and am wondering what changed. I pulled down boot.flp, and ran a cksum against it, and the checksums do not match, so it looks like they rebuilt the dist. Should I reinstall with the May 18th version? Thanks. Joe Clarke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 6:46: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2946B14A2D; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id WAA08511; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:45:03 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37416DC8.386AD9E2@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:40:24 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oleg Amiton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel References: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, FAQ team, have added this to the FAQ already? Oleg Amiton wrote: > > I've upgraded system from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE. > Just compiled 3.2-STABLE kernel not recognized as loadable on > boot, but loaded succesfully after make. > So, maybe anyone knows, what are the reasons? > Error message is: > > /kernel text=0x119656 > elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed > can't load module /kernel: input/output error We do not support kernel out of synchrony with the world. You must make world. As a temporary work-around, interrupt the system at the second stage of the bootstrapping procedure, at the "|" prompt, and make it boot the kernel directly instead of /boot/loader. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 6:52: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waterwall.inec.ru (waterwall.inec.ru [195.133.150.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5692A14DA2 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsw@inec.ru) Received: from PENTAGRAM (tata.inec.ru [195.133.150.3]) by waterwall.inec.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA00387 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:50:35 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilya Balashov" To: Subject: 3.1(3.2)-stable memory leaks Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:52:51 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i running 3.1-stable durring last month... and all of this time, i have problems with memory... after reboot top says: Mem: 12M Active, 5351K Inact, 19M Wired, 9380K Cache, 8291K Buf, 620K Free i start coping some files (about 100mb), and after that top says: Mem: 20M Active, 78M Inact, 19M Wired, 4540K Cache, 8284K Buf, 1892K Free Inactive memory growing from 5M to 78M.... 75M leaked !!! my machine: P2-350 128M RAM, AHA2940UW + IBM 9lzx, 2xIEE100.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 6:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B93E14D19 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfh@jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de) Received: (from jfh@localhost) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA50740; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:55:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jfh) To: Oleg Amiton Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel References: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Date: 18 May 1999 15:55:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: Oleg Amiton's message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:40 +0400" Message-ID: Lines: 5 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rebuild everything in /sys/boot and btw. rebuild ld-elf.so.1 if you use egcs -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG Elektronische Schaltungen, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 7:16:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Homer.Web-Ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEA814DE5 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by Homer.Web-Ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31000 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:15:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Homer.Web-Ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG where can one find info on how to rebuild ld-elf.so.1? Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 On 18 May 1999, Fritz Heinrichmeyer wrote: > rebuild everything in /sys/boot and btw. rebuild ld-elf.so.1 if you use egcs > -- > Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de > FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG Elektronische Schaltungen, 58084 Hagen (Germany) > tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 7:26:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EF914CFF for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id XAA18092; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:25:49 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37417511.A633986B@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:11:29 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilya Balashov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1(3.2)-stable memory leaks References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilya Balashov wrote: > > i running 3.1-stable durring last month... and all of this time, i have > problems with memory... > after reboot top says: > Mem: 12M Active, 5351K Inact, 19M Wired, 9380K Cache, 8291K Buf, 620K Free > > i start coping some files (about 100mb), and after that top says: > Mem: 20M Active, 78M Inact, 19M Wired, 4540K Cache, 8284K Buf, 1892K Free > > Inactive memory growing from 5M to 78M.... 75M leaked !!! It's inactive. Why do you think there is a leak? Just because things are cached in case you need them again? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 8:26: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ADD14FED for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id SAA72561; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:22:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:22:24 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Joe Marcus Clarke Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What changed between 3.2 yesterday and today Message-ID: <19990518182224.A71936@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Joe Marcus Clarke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Joe Marcus Clarke on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:19:22AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:19:22AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > I just went to ftp.freebsd.org, and looked at the mod dates on FreeBSD > 3.2-RELEASE, and found them to be current as of today. I downloaded and > installed 3.2-RELEASE yesterday (I know, before the official > announcement), and am wondering what changed. I pulled down boot.flp, and > ran a cksum against it, and the checksums do not match, so it looks like > they rebuilt the dist. Should I reinstall with the May 18th version? > Thanks. > > Joe Clarke Edit src/release/sysinstall/config.c,v Delete tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.115.2.19 Add tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.115.2.20 Edit src/release/sysinstall/package.c,v Delete tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.65.2.8 Add tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.65.2.9 Edit src/sys/pci/ahc_pci.c,v Delete tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.5.2.4 Add tag RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE -> 1.5.2.5 -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 9:16:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B078915747 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29889 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:16:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <064b01bea149$c72492e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: KERNEL PANIC in 3.1-stable (take II) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:16:25 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, Sorry to those who could not read the last posting. This should make more sense. (I was so busy I got someone else to type in the message, obvious they can not read my handwriting :) (before you ask I'm running ~ 9 May 1999 3.1-Stable, and Apache 1.3.6 = httpd ) OK after 4 days 21 hours and installing the option DDB_UNATTENDED into the kernel I got the following kernel trap. Can anyone read this and tell me what it all means? Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xf469b2dc fault code = supervisor write, page not present. instruction pointer = 0x8 : 0xf0208a9c stack pointer = 0x10 : 0xf6d59f04 frame pointer = 0x10 : 0xf6d59f14 code segment = base 0x0, unit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor of lags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0. current process = 58364 (httpd) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam kernel : type 12 trap , code = 0 Stopped at pmap_remove_pages + 0xe8 : mov | %eax, 0(%edx) db> Again sorry about the last one! I know how annoying it can get when you have loads mail to filter :) Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 9:32:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.IAEhv.nl (news.IAE.nl [194.151.64.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2667F14E52 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from devet@adv.iae.nl) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news.IAEhv.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with IAEhv.nl id SAA13427; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:32:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from devet@localhost) by adv.iae.nl (8.9.3/8.8.6) id SAA10570; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:29:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:29:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Arjan de Vet Message-Id: <199905181629.SAA10570@adv.iae.nl> To: alick@fas.ru Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> Organization: Internet Access Eindhoven, the Netherlands Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> you write: >/kernel text=0x119656 >elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed >can't load module /kernel: input/output error I had the same error when I ported the 1GB KVM changes to 3.1-stable some time ago (before they were merged from current). The new kernel could not be loaded anymore by the old bootblocks. The solution is to update the bootblocks with something like disklabel -B da0 if da0 is your boot disk. Make sure the contents of /boot is up to date. See the manual page of disklabel for more details. Arjan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 10:14:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat193.13.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.193.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7664914EDB; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA33813; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:14:27 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:14:27 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just installed 3.2-RELEASE from scratch, have only had time so far to install a new kernel onto her, and just installed netscape from ports: atelier# /usr/local/netscape-4.51/netscape Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 10:25:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DF6151C4; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA03912; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:24:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "The Hermit Hacker" , Cc: Subject: RE: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of The Hermit Hacker > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:14 PM > To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. > > > > Just installed 3.2-RELEASE from scratch, have only had time so far to > install a new kernel onto her, and just installed netscape from ports: > > atelier# /usr/local/netscape-4.51/netscape > Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of the X libraries. -Ben Greenwald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 10:50:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5857A14D1A for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09173 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA12909 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905181750.KAA12909@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:09 EDT." <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:15 -0700 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu>, "Benjamin Greenwald" cleopede: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of The Hermit Hacker >> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:14 PM >> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org >> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org >> Subject: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. >> >> >> >> Just installed 3.2-RELEASE from scratch, have only had time so far to >> install a new kernel onto her, and just installed netscape from ports: >> >> atelier# /usr/local/netscape-4.51/netscape >> Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. > >The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out >compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of >the X libraries. Isn't this sort of dependency supposed to be handled automagically? -Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 10:57:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from TripleCrown.Aldridge.com (TripleCrown.Aldridge.com [206.180.151.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E2714BED for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlac@aldridge.com) Received: from aldridge.com (america.aldridge.com [206.180.139.33]) by TripleCrown.Aldridge.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00506 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:56:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3741A9E2.8BACACD8@aldridge.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:56:50 -0500 From: "David L. Aldridge" Organization: The Aldridge Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE now available. References: <9984.927027076@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have several machines running 2.2.8. Will you suggest your choice of: 1. Do the usual source/makeworld upgrade 2. Strip the box and do a new install. Regards Dave "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > It is my usual pleasure to announce the availability of 3.2-RELEASE, > our follow-on release to FreeBSD 3.1 (released February, 1999). Many > bug fixes and general enhancements have been made to the system and a > number of new features added, so please see the release notes for more > information. -- David L. Aldridge The Aldridge Company 281.368.0166 (fax: 281.368.0381) http://www.aldridge.com/ Powered by Pentium/FreeBSD/Apache - Because it works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 11:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ms1.eranet.net (ms1.eranet.net [203.95.230.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A4514CF6; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevlo@hello.com.tw) Received: from hello.com.tw (n168.n203-95-235.eranet.net [203.95.235.168]) by ms1.eranet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA15228; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:47:53 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <3741996C.6F8664@hello.com.tw> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:46:37 +0800 From: Kevin Lo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, faq@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel References: <19990518171440.A359@fas.ru> <37416DC8.386AD9E2@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Hey, FAQ team, have added this to the FAQ already? Yes, see pr-11763. Thanks for your help. -Kevin. > Oleg Amiton wrote: > > > > I've upgraded system from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE. > > Just compiled 3.2-STABLE kernel not recognized as loadable on > > boot, but loaded succesfully after make. > > So, maybe anyone knows, what are the reasons? > > Error message is: > > > > /kernel text=0x119656 > > elf_loadexec: archsw.readin failed > > can't load module /kernel: input/output error > > We do not support kernel out of synchrony with the world. You must > make world. As a temporary work-around, interrupt the system at the > second stage of the bootstrapping procedure, at the "|" prompt, and > make it boot the kernel directly instead of /boot/loader. > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 11:26:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server01.ilap.com (server01.ilap.com [204.50.90.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE09A14C47 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phorechuk@docucom.ca) Received: from phorechuk (server17.docucom.ca [209.5.109.17]) by server01.ilap.com (8.8.7/Internet.Light.and.Power.Inc.) with SMTP id OAA23442 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <019501bea15b$b26657a0$73f8d7a5@phorechuk.docucom.ca> From: "Paul Horechuk" To: Subject: boot problems Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:24:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In an attempt to make more room on /usr, I did created a directory in /var for the libexec files. I copied the directory over and then linked with ln -s /var/libexec /usr/libexec. This has worked for several other directories that I had to move. Unfortunately, during the reboot the system is looking for /usr/libexec/dev/getty, which does not exist at this point, or so it seems. As a result, I can neither login via console or telnet (a similar message appears on the console). I had just finished upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3.1 stable via cvsup (RELENG_3). The system was in the process of make upgrade before the out of space warning. This had aborted the process and was when I started moving files. I have tried the recovery method, via the 2.2.6 CD, yet I can't seem to get any recognizable commands to the emergency shell. Any help other than reinstalling would be appreciated. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 11:28:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071B314CC8 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11142; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What changed between 3.2 yesterday and today In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 09:19:22 EDT." Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:28:38 -0700 Message-ID: <11138.927052118@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just went to ftp.freebsd.org, and looked at the mod dates on FreeBSD > 3.2-RELEASE, and found them to be current as of today. I downloaded and > installed 3.2-RELEASE yesterday (I know, before the official > announcement), and am wondering what changed. I pulled down boot.flp, and ahc_pci.c was updated with Justin's latest fixes for the AHC 295x. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 11:43:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles506.castles.com [208.214.165.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3A415352; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04698; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905181840.LAA04698@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Benjamin Greenwald" Cc: "The Hermit Hacker" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:09 EDT." <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Just installed 3.2-RELEASE from scratch, have only had time so far to > > install a new kernel onto her, and just installed netscape from ports: > > > > atelier# /usr/local/netscape-4.51/netscape > > Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. > > The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out > compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of > the X libraries. There's a bug in the compat22 distball that causes this. We'll update it sometime today (look for new timestamps on the compat22 stuff); the fixed version will be on the CDROMs as well. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 12:12:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from siscom.net (mail1.siscom.net [209.251.2.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8A2314E7C for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: (qmail 75783 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 19:12:35 -0000 Received: from mp.siscom.net (HELO jason) (209.251.2.49) by mail.siscom.net with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:12:35 -0000 Message-ID: <0ec001bea164$077d3440$3102fbd1@siscom.net> From: "Robert J. Adams" To: Subject: NFS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:24:19 -0400 Organization: SISCOM, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Just wondering if the NFS fixes that were applied to -current were backported to 3.2? Thanks, Jason --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 13:16:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E66F14ED9 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05721 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:16:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08064 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:16:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA63925 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:16:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:16:39 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Message-ID: <19990518221639.A64601@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is no joke, actually :-) I am using one NIS master together with two slaves. With the upgrade to 3.2-STABLE, yppush fails when trying to update the maps on the slaves. After suspecting a bug in the NIS system first, it turned out that /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is the reason for that. When replacing libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c from 3.2-STABLE with version 1.13.2.7 it works again. Using 1.13.2.8, it breaks again. The cvs comment for the 1.13.2.8 commit says: ------------------- snip --------------------------- 1.13.2.8 Wed Apr 28 1:27:55 1999 UTC by jdp Branch: RELENG_3 Diffs to 1.13.2.7 MFC 1.21 -> 1.22: Initialize "__progname" and "environ" before calling _init() functions. ------------------- snap --------------------------- So, is there something wrong with ld-elf.so.1 or does yppush and friends need fixing? Because the bug is somehow hard to reproduce (you need the NIS stuff set up with multiple slaves), I will be happy to run any test or try patches. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 13:24:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1916A15755 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07082 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:24:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16012 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:21:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA00335 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:24:01 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:24:00 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /dev/lkm Message-ID: <19990518232400.A321@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I got from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE fine except this: root@hawk: [8] /dev # modstat modstat: /dev/lkm: Device not configured root@hawk: [9] /dev # uname -a FreeBSD hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Tue May 18 23:15:05 EEST 1999 george@hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr:/usr/src/sys/compile/ADAMO i386 Ideas (or what should I sent to be more helpfull) ? -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 15:50:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672D6151CC for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpxeb.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.205]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA02386 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:50:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3741EEA6.17857359@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:50:14 +0200 From: "José MŠ Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: a COMPAT22 flag should be added to 3.2's /etc/make.conf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When "making the world" from the 3.2 sources, the compat22 stuff is only installed if the COMPAT22 variable is defined. However, this flag is not present in /etc/make.conf, while the COMPAT1X, COMPAT20 and COMPAT21 flags are there. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José MŠ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-946013071 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 16:45:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA33514E6D for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C0F52EE1A; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 1442 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199905180158.SAA19665@implode.root.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: David Greenman Subject: Re: maxusers/nmbclusters Cc: Brian Behlendorf , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That David Greenman wrote: >> I have read that if you have needs that would require turning up >> NMBclusters, >>and certain sysctl options, etc, that you should do so independantly and = not >>increase maxusers up much above 256. Will that recomendation change with = 3.2 >>as >>well? >=20 > If you specify NMBCLUSTERS, then you only need to tune maxusers for > increased number of processes (nproc =3D 16 * maxusers). This is true in = all > versions of FreeBSD. >=20 > -DG Ah, but if you set max processes via sysctl, then do you really need to tu= ne max users up at all? Thanks!! Nicole >=20 > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.= org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.c= om |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 16:58: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A05E1509A for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cream.org) Received: from [212.126.149.251] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10jtk9-0004Bs-00; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:57:53 +0000 Message-ID: <3741FDF1.585C0863@cream.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:55:29 +0100 From: Andrew Boothman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What changed between 3.2 yesterday and today References: <11138.927052118@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > ahc_pci.c was updated with Justin's latest fixes for the AHC 295x. Will this new update be present in the Walnut Creek CD-ROM set? -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 17:27:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from toast.asphyxiation.COM (h-CF680FFE.corp.tngi.com [207.104.15.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B31524C for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronn@toast.asphyxiation.COM) Received: (from ronn@localhost) by toast.asphyxiation.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19191 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronn) Message-ID: <19990518173327.A19151@idream.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:33:27 -0700 From: Ronn Pimentel To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem building the world. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i X-Files: Don't you Scully me! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having a problem running a "make buildworld" from a 2.2.6 to 3.2. I have been using the "Make the world your own" document. I am getting an error when I run a "make buildworld" cd /usr/src/usr.bin/f2c; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make before install install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/usr.bin/f2c/f2c.h /usr/obj/usr/src/ tmp/usr/include cd /usr/src/usr.bin/lex; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make before install install -C -o root -g wheel -m 644 /usr/src/usr.bin/lex/FlexLexer.h /usr/obj/us r/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/o bj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/u sr/local/bin:/home/00/r/ronn/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin: BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/t mp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/ usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/o bj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_P ATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t O BJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp /usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 bootstrap-libraries cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOM N -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/ bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i 386-elf/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu /i386-elf/GTAGS cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/includ e -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/includ e -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:32: section attributes are not supported fo r this target /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:33: section attributes are not supported fo r this target {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:68: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. {root@toast:/usr/src}exit exit Script done on Tue May 18 17:21:03 1999 {root@toast:/var/tmp} My current system is: {root@toast:/var/tmp}uname -a FreeBSD toast 2.2.6-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE #0: Tue Jul 21 18:57:33 PDT 1998 root@toast:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL i386 {root@toast:/var/tmp} -- Ronn@iDream.COM http://www.iDream.COM Anything is possible except for skiing through a revolving door. It's kinda fun to do the impossible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 18: 7:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F7C14D91 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA80811 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:07:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:07:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty buffs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting this panic reliably under 3.2-RELEASE and 3.2-STABLE under both the GENERIC kernel and a customized kernel for the particular system I am using. It is a Compaq Proliant 3000, PIII-500, 256MB ECC SDRAM (though GENERIC only sees 16MB), onboard Symbios Logic 53C876, three 9.1GB UW-SCSI drives, six Intel EtherExpress PRO 100Bs, and one Dual Intel EtherExpress PRO 100B. Booting single-user, with no filesystems mounted other than the root (da0s1a) as read-only, I do the following: dd if=/dev/rda0s1a of=/dev/da1s1a I can either let the command complete, or hit Ctrl-C to abort it, either way I get the above-mentioned panic. I have attempted to set up a debugging kernel to get a core dump on this, but every time I try to bring the resultant dump into kgdb, it tells me "kernel symbol `IdlePTD' not found." Any tips? -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 18:21:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca (jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca [142.177.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E2414E94 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse.burns@ns.sympatico.ca) Received: from ns.sympatico.ca ([142.177.204.144]) by jubilee.ns.sympatico.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 607-60631U65000L65000S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA3820 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:21:30 -0300 Message-ID: <3741E800.CDFAAB65@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:21:52 -0300 From: jesse Reply-To: ""@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe jesse.burns@ns.sympatico.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 18:25:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7383914E94 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14572; Tue, 18 May 1999 18:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Andrew Boothman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What changed between 3.2 yesterday and today In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 00:55:29 BST." <3741FDF1.585C0863@cream.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:25:45 -0700 Message-ID: <14568.927077145@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > ahc_pci.c was updated with Justin's latest fixes for the AHC 295x. > > Will this new update be present in the Walnut Creek CD-ROM set? Yes, the final and latest 3.2 version is what was pressed onto CD. Thank the CD testing process, in fact, for significant influencing the quality of the network release. Sometimes paid staff are the only way to go when the external testers take about 4 weeks to test a 2 week BETA :-) [this is a ratio rather than a fixed length of time, BTW. If you have a 1 week BETA, for example, then it will take them 2 weeks. A 4 week BETA will require 8 weeks of feedback. :) ] - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19: 0:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aeolus.conio.net (ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com [24.4.122.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0A9A14CE7 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@conio.net) Received: (qmail 54507 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 02:03:12 -0000 Received: from ci221559-b.grnvle1.sc.home.com (HELO thanatos.conio.net) (sam@24.4.122.130) by ci221559-a.grnvle1.sc.home.com with SMTP; 19 May 1999 02:03:12 -0000 From: Sam Stephenson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.2-STABLE and brooktree drivers Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:02:55 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051822033101.35213@thanatos.conio.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While attempting to compile a 3.2-STABLE kernel with 'device bktr0', make depend stops with the following error: ../../pci/brooktree848.c:406: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/brooktree848.c:407: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. I tried re-CVSing to the newest source tree, but I still get the same problem. Any suggestions? --Sam Stephenson sam@conio.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19: 3:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6616514CE7 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 14EC62EE1A; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 2414 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990517151711.C84342@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Benjamin Greenwald Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 17-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: >> > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 >> > > seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 >> > > seconds and spontaneously reboots. >> > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external >> > > Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. >> > > >> > Just reboots or panics? >>=20 >> Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. >>=20 > Be a hacker! >=20 > Try to back out the latest Justin's (gibbs@freebsd.org) commit, > rebuild the kernel (you don't need to run ``make depend'' again), > and try with that kernel. >=20 Out of curiosity, and the likely need to do this myself, how does one "bac= k out" of a commit change or CVsup level? Thanks! Nicole > You will need the following files/revisions: >=20 > /usr/src/sys/pci/ahc_pci.c 1.5.2.3 > /usr/src/sys/i386/eisa/ahc_eisa.c 1.4.2.1 > /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c 1.16.2.7 > /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.h 1.5.2.1 > /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.reg 1.12.2.2 > /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq 1.84.2.3 > /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c 1.5 >=20 > Do you have a local FreeBSD CVS repository? > If not, I could send you these files. >=20 >=20 > Cheers, > --=20 > Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the > ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank > +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine >=20 > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19: 6:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899B914CE0 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02679; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:06:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518221433.03851020@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:16:09 -0400 To: Sam Stephenson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE and brooktree drivers In-Reply-To: <99051822033101.35213@thanatos.conio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:02 PM 5/18/99 , Sam Stephenson wrote: >While attempting to compile a 3.2-STABLE kernel with 'device bktr0', >make depend stops with the following error: > >../../pci/brooktree848.c:406: smbus_if.h: No such file or directory >../../pci/brooktree848.c:407: iicbus_if.h: No such file or directory >mkdep: compile failed >*** Error code 1 >Stop. > >I tried re-CVSing to the newest source tree, but I still get the same >problem. Any suggestions? Do you have controller smbus0 controller iicbus0 device smb0 at smbus? in your config file ? ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19: 6:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666AF15226 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:06:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA59792; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990518190626.A59764@nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:06:26 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_M=AA_Alcaide?= , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a COMPAT22 flag should be added to 3.2's /etc/make.conf Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <3741EEA6.17857359@we.lc.ehu.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C3741EEA6=2E17857359=40we=2Elc=2Eehu=2Ees=3E=3B_from_Jo?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?s=E9_M=AA_Alcaide_on_Wed=2C_May_19=2C_1999_at_12:50:14AM_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?+0200?= X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When "making the world" from the 3.2 sources, the compat22 stuff > is only installed if the COMPAT22 variable is defined. However, > this flag is not present in /etc/make.conf, while the COMPAT1X, COMPAT20 > and COMPAT21 flags are there. They are also commented out. Did you uncomment them or something? If so then just add a line for COMPAT22. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19:30:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from meg.pdq.net (pop.pdq.net [204.145.251.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E4C715207 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:30:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-190.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.190-3] by pocahontas.pdq.net; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:29:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bea19f$7eb33ba0$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: Subject: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:29:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEA175.949FD1A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEA175.949FD1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been working on a machine running FreeBSD 3.1-Stable and have = failed to get the ISDN terminal adapter that is hooked up to it to work = correctly. There is a generic 56k on com2 that works great. On com 1, = the ISDN terminal adapter is just...dead. PPP will not communicate with = it. The terminal adapter has been tested and works fine on other = machines, just not FreeBSD. Is there something special about ISDN = adapters that I don't know about? (note: the terminal adapter is = external and the modem is internal, not that that makes a lot of = difference as long as the ports are set up right in the bios/jumpers) ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEA175.949FD1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been working on a machine = running FreeBSD=20 3.1-Stable and have failed to get the ISDN terminal adapter that is = hooked up to=20 it to work correctly.  There is a generic 56k on com2 that works=20 great.  On com 1, the ISDN terminal adapter is just...dead.  = PPP will=20 not communicate with it.  The terminal adapter has been tested and = works=20 fine on other machines, just not FreeBSD.  Is there something = special about=20 ISDN adapters that I don't know about? (note: the terminal adapter is = external=20 and the modem is internal, not that that makes a lot of difference as = long as=20 the ports are set up right in the = bios/jumpers)
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEA175.949FD1A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19:32:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4CF151D6 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:51 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Clay Smith" , Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bea19f$e3e3c620$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01bea19f$7eb33ba0$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It would be extremely helpful if you gave us a description of the problem that was just a bit more specific than "dead" or "will not communicate". A specific error message or description of how far you get before things go wrong would be enormously helpful. DS -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Clay Smith Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:30 PM To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ISDN Terminal adapter no work I have been working on a machine running FreeBSD 3.1-Stable and have failed to get the ISDN terminal adapter that is hooked up to it to work correctly. There is a generic 56k on com2 that works great. On com 1, the ISDN terminal adapter is just...dead. PPP will not communicate with it. The terminal adapter has been tested and works fine on other machines, just not FreeBSD. Is there something special about ISDN adapters that I don't know about? (note: the terminal adapter is external and the modem is internal, not that that makes a lot of difference as long as the ports are set up right in the bios/jumpers) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 19:54:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.lonetree.com (falcon.lonetree.com [207.141.55.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6CE150D6 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:54:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolfnet@wolfnet-irc.org) Received: from wolfnet-irc.org (users.wolfnet-irc.org [209.64.46.42]) by falcon.lonetree.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA19681 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:54:37 -0600 Message-ID: <374228E3.DD646607@wolfnet-irc.org> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:58:43 -0600 From: Jonathan Frazier Organization: The WolfNet-IRC Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ADSL?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting an ADSL connection set up this next week and need some help/opinions. I have never done it on a FBSD system before. I am running 3.2-stable as of last night. My options are the Cisco 675 external ADSL modem or the 605 Internal ADSL modem. I'm not sure what's out there for FBSD and ADSL and if my system can use the internal NIC. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Jonathan C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 20: 4:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26371150C9 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03075 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:04:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518231312.04207490@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:14:46 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ADSL?? In-Reply-To: <374228E3.DD646607@wolfnet-irc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:58 PM 5/18/99 , Jonathan Frazier wrote: >I am getting an ADSL connection set up this next week and need some >help/opinions. I have never done it on a FBSD system before. I am >running 3.2-stable as of last night. My options are the Cisco 675 >external ADSL modem or the 605 Internal ADSL modem. I'm not sure what's >out there for FBSD and ADSL and if my system can use the internal NIC. >Any suggestions would be appreciated. External for sure. That way, your FreeBSD box just uses the router as a router and you dont have to worry about device drivers etc. Just get yourself an ethernet card, cross over cable and you are ready to go. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 20:23:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82F7151FB for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id XAA03466; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma003463; Tue, 18 May 99 23:22:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: ADSL?? In-reply-to: <4.1.19990518231312.04207490@granite.sentex.ca> To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 10:58 PM 5/18/99 , Jonathan Frazier wrote: > >I am getting an ADSL connection set up this next week and need some > >help/opinions. I have never done it on a FBSD system before. I am > >running 3.2-stable as of last night. My options are the Cisco 675 > >external ADSL modem or the 605 Internal ADSL modem. I'm not sure what's > >out there for FBSD and ADSL and if my system can use the internal NIC. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > External for sure. That way, your FreeBSD box just uses the router as a > router and you dont have to worry about device drivers etc. Just get > yourself an ethernet card, cross over cable and you are ready to go. > Be careful here. Some ADSL connections don't use routers at all; they use "modems" (really, xlational bridges). These devices don't do any sort of layer-3 function. Why does this matter? It matters because 1) your ISP may require you to use DHCP to get your workstation's address, and 2) you may not be able to attach >1 device w/o NAT. That said, definitely go for the external device. If you can get your NIC working, you're golden. I've got my box working fine (using static IPs for now); it's just a matter of configuring the Ethernet card and plugging it in (via crossover) to my (Alcatel) ADSL "modem". SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 20:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from meg.pdq.net (pop.pdq.net [204.145.251.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BDAB14C0B for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-190.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.190-22] by pocahontas.pdq.net; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: <002801bea1aa$580b4b40$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: "David Schwartz" , References: <000501bea19f$e3e3c620$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:47:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When you load ppp and run term to communicate directly with it, it won't take any commands, it just sits there. It's as if there is no device there to take commands... ----- Original Message ----- From: David Schwartz To: Clay Smith ; Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:32 PM Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work > > It would be extremely helpful if you gave us a description of the problem > that was just a bit more specific than "dead" or "will not communicate". A > specific error message or description of how far you get before things go > wrong would be enormously helpful. > > DS > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Clay Smith > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:30 PM > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: ISDN Terminal adapter no work > > > I have been working on a machine running FreeBSD 3.1-Stable and have failed > to get the ISDN terminal adapter that is hooked up to it to work correctly. > There is a generic 56k on com2 that works great. On com 1, the ISDN > terminal adapter is just...dead. PPP will not communicate with it. The > terminal adapter has been tested and works fine on other machines, just not > FreeBSD. Is there something special about ISDN adapters that I don't know > about? (note: the terminal adapter is external and the modem is internal, > not that that makes a lot of difference as long as the ports are set up > right in the bios/jumpers) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 18 22:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DBB14DEB for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:17:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:17:57 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Clay Smith" , Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:17:56 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bea1b6$f4698b30$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <002801bea1aa$580b4b40$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > When you load ppp and run term to communicate directly with it, it won't > take any commands, it just sits there. > It's as if there is no device there to take commands... I will bet you dollars to donuts this problem has nothing to do with FreeBSD. The problem will be one of the following: 1) The serial port is at the wrong baud rate. 2) The serial cable is wired incorrectly. 3) You are sending the wrong commands to the modem or not speaking the protocol is supports. 4) You are connected to the wrong serial port or a defective serial port. This is a pretty routine problem to troubleshoot. If you're not familiar with basic serial device troubleshooting techniques, you probably shouldn't be attempting to connect an ISDN modem to a UNIX-like machine. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 0:58: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sundance.KKS.net (sundance.KKS.net [212.62.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0F514FEE for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@kksonline.com) Received: from notebook (mb3-27.dialup.amis.net [212.18.32.154]) by sundance.KKS.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/HPatch) with SMTP id JAA22813 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:57:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199905190757.JAA22813@sundance.KKS.net> X-Sender: rozmanal@164.8.8.5 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:46:18 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Aleksander Rozman - Andy Subject: freebsd 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I was looking around 'net few days ago, and I came across some files made for FreeBSD 4.0, but after that I looked on FreeBSD.org and there wasn't any version 4.0. Is this just a hoax or is FreeBSD 4.0 in existence? Andy ************************************************************************** * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Member of: E2:EA, E2F, SAABer, Trekkie, * * andy@mail.kks.net * X-Phile, Heller's angel, True's screamer, * * andy@atechnet.ml.org * True's Trooper, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender * * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 ********************************************* * PGP key available * http://www.atechnet.ml.org/~andy/ * ************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 1:13:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A1215484 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:12:58 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Aleksander Rozman - Andy" , Subject: RE: freebsd 4.0 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bea1cf$679edfc0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <199905190757.JAA22813@sundance.KKS.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is no release or stable build of 4.0. It's currently the 'code name' of the 'latest snapshot' of FreeBSD development, also known as -CURRENT. DS > Hi ! > > I was looking around 'net few days ago, and I came across some files made > for FreeBSD 4.0, but after that I looked on FreeBSD.org and there wasn't > any version 4.0. Is this just a hoax or is FreeBSD 4.0 in existence? > > Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 1:26:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BD414E55 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id LAA90187; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:25 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Nicole Harrington Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Benjamin Greenwald Subject: Re: Reboots w/ new ahc code Message-ID: <19990519112425.D78957@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Nicole Harrington , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Benjamin Greenwald References: <19990517151711.C84342@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Nicole Harrington on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 07:03:42PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 07:03:42PM -0700, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > On 17-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 07:59:14AM -0400, Benjamin Greenwald wrote: > >> > > Since the update, when it gets to the point of waiting 15 > >> > > seconds for scsi devices to settle, it waits for about 15 > >> > > seconds and spontaneously reboots. > >> > > Everytime like clockwork. However, if I unplug the external > >> > > Zip drive and fix up the termination, the machine boots fine. > >> > > > >> > Just reboots or panics? > >> > >> Unfortunately, it just reboots. No warning, no information. > >> > > Be a hacker! > > > > Try to back out the latest Justin's (gibbs@freebsd.org) commit, > > rebuild the kernel (you don't need to run ``make depend'' again), > > and try with that kernel. > > > > Out of curiosity, and the likely need to do this myself, how does one "back > out" of a commit change or CVsup level? > > > Thanks! > > > Nicole Well, you should have a local CVS repository for this purpose. Then you could issue a ``cvs update'' command. ``man cvs'', ``info cvs'' for details. As for this particular problem with Adaptec, the bug has already been fixed, and the fix is included into 3.2-RELEASE. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 1:42: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D06F14D4C; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:40:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id LAA94451; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:38:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:38:32 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Ronn Pimentel , nik@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem building the world. Message-ID: <19990519113832.F78957@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Ronn Pimentel , nik@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990518173327.A19151@idream.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990518173327.A19151@idream.com>; from Ronn Pimentel on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:33:27PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:33:27PM -0700, Ronn Pimentel wrote: > > I am having a problem running a "make buildworld" from a 2.2.6 to 3.2. I > have been using the "Make the world your own" document. > > I am getting an error when I run a "make buildworld" > People, what's up to you? /usr/src/Makefile: [...] # upgrade - Upgrade a.out (2.2.x/3.0) system to the new ELF way [...] # Upgrading an i386 system from a.out to elf format # # # The aout->elf transition build is performed by doing a `make upgrade' (or # `make aout-to-elf') or in two steps by a `make aout-to-elf-build' followed # by a `make aout-to-elf-install', depending on user preference. # You need to have at least 320 Mb of free space for the object tree. [...] Nik, could you please update your brilliant tutorial? -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 2:24: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netrinsics.com (unknown [210.74.174.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EFF15475 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:23:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id RAA44161 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:22:56 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:22:56 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Astonishingly stupid question Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, someone wanted to experiment with a new environment based right on top of the raw BSD kernel. Would anything go horribly wrong if that person replaced /sbin/init with something like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? Just hypothetically speaking, of course. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 2:38:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7E15293 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 02:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA48314; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:37:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Ilya Balashov" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:37:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That is it!!!!!! Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, and kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. This can easily be reproduced..... Daniel do you use the 'ahc' controller? Can others that use the 'ahc' controller also check 'top' last pid: 47457; load averages: 0.15, 0.06, 0.01 up 1+00:50:22 10:19:24 55 processes: 1 running, 54 sleeping CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% idle Mem: 12M Active, 72M Inact, 30M Wired, 6432K Cache, 8007K Buf, 2536K Free Swap: 128M Total, 1024K Used, 127M Free, 1% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 585 root 2 0 1608K 1156K select 8:28 0.00% 0.00% natd 406 root 2 0 2344K 2008K select 0:25 0.00% 0.00% named 602 root 2 0 1448K 916K select 0:19 0.00% 0.00% nmbd 507 root 2 0 1488K 900K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% httpd 509 root 2 0 1488K 880K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% httpd 583 root 2 0 896K 528K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% natd 453 root 2 0 1256K 744K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% sendmail -----Original Message----- From: Daniel C. Sobral To: Ilya Balashov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 18 May 1999 15:27 Subject: Re: 3.1(3.2)-stable memory leaks >Ilya Balashov wrote: >> >> i running 3.1-stable durring last month... and all of this time, i have >> problems with memory... >> after reboot top says: >> Mem: 12M Active, 5351K Inact, 19M Wired, 9380K Cache, 8291K Buf, 620K Free >> >> i start coping some files (about 100mb), and after that top says: >> Mem: 20M Active, 78M Inact, 19M Wired, 4540K Cache, 8284K Buf, 1892K Free >> >> Inactive memory growing from 5M to 78M.... 75M leaked !!! > >It's inactive. Why do you think there is a leak? Just because things >are cached in case you need them again? > >-- >Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) >dcs@newsguy.com >dcs@freebsd.org > > "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 3: 9:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBEF15007 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id NAA17378; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:07:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:06:59 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Message-ID: <19990519130659.A14578@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk>; from Greg Quinlan on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 10:37:19AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > That is it!!!!!! > > Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, and > kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > > I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. > > This can easily be reproduced..... > You didn't tell us how. I'd like to try... > Daniel do you use the 'ahc' controller? > > Can others that use the 'ahc' controller also check 'top' > I use `ahc' and my swap is as follows: # swapinfo -k Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/da0s1b 98304 48336 49840 49% Interleaved I never experienced any memory leaking problems. > last pid: 47457; load averages: 0.15, 0.06, 0.01 up 1+00:50:22 > 10:19:24 > 55 processes: 1 running, 54 sleeping > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% > idle > Mem: 12M Active, 72M Inact, 30M Wired, 6432K Cache, 8007K Buf, 2536K Free > Swap: 128M Total, 1024K Used, 127M Free, 1% Inuse ^^^^^^^^ ;-) PS: So-called ``ahc reboot'' problem has been fixed in rev 1.5.2.5 of sys/pci/ahc_pci.c, and the fix has been included into 3.2-RELEASE. Why don't you upgrade to 3.2-STABLE?! Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 3:55:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E420F15471 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (garatu [158.227.6.222]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04127; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:48:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <374296E8.3AAD6EDC@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:48:08 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Pais Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y Electronica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: a COMPAT22 flag should be added to 3.2's /etc/make.conf References: <3741EEA6.17857359@we.lc.ehu.es> <19990518190626.A59764@nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > > When "making the world" from the 3.2 sources, the compat22 stuff > > is only installed if the COMPAT22 variable is defined. However, > > this flag is not present in /etc/make.conf, while the COMPAT1X, COMPAT20 > > and COMPAT21 flags are there. > > They are also commented out. Did you uncomment them or something? If so > then just add a line for COMPAT22. > Yes, I already did it. :-) What I wanted to say was that the COMPAT22 flag (commented out or not, this could be a point for discussion) should be added to the 3.2's /etc/make.conf. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José MŠ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-946013071 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 3:58:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FFC15453 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA53569 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <007901bea1e6$8683fee0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:28 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov wrote: >I use `ahc' and my swap is as follows: ># swapinfo -k >Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type >/dev/da0s1b 98304 48336 49840 49% Interleaved ^^^^^^ Are you sure? > >I never experienced any memory leaking problems. > Have you also run 'top' checking the headers for 'Inact' >PS: So-called ``ahc reboot'' problem has been fixed in rev 1.5.2.5 >of sys/pci/ahc_pci.c, and the fix has been included into 3.2-RELEASE. > >Why don't you upgrade to 3.2-STABLE?! Hmmm seems I will ..... ahc_pci.c,v 1.5.2.1 ;) > >Cheers, Thanks Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 4: 5: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waterwall.inec.ru (waterwall.inec.ru [195.133.150.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC5815442 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 04:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsw@inec.ru) Received: from PENTAGRAM (tata.inec.ru [195.133.150.3]) by waterwall.inec.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04017; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:04:43 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilya Balashov" To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: Subject: RE: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:07:13 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That is it!!!!!! > > Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot > problem, and > kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > > I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. > > This can easily be reproduced..... reproduce is too easy.... reboot system... run "top"... and remember free memory... run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" run "top" again... and almost all free memory LEAKED !!!! > > Daniel do you use the 'ahc' controller? > i use 'ahc' controller.... > Can others that use the 'ahc' controller also check 'top' > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 4:10:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B054014DE1 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 04:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.e.remski@lmco.com) Received: from emss04g01.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.122]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06009; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) id <0FBZ00O018DKSF@lmco.com>; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sanw00100321 ([129.86.163.80]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) with SMTP id <0FBZ00O3H8DGGM@lmco.com>; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:00:56 -0400 From: Michael Remski Subject: Re: lkm To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: michael.e.remski@lmco.com Message-id: <374299E8.69AC@lmco.com> Organization: Sanders A Lockheed Martin Company MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try using kldstat (command changed due to new interface) m -- "You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 5:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA0A1549B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16154; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:50:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21227; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:48:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA01839; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:50:15 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:50:14 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question Message-ID: <19990519155014.A1803@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com>; from Michael Robinson on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:22:56PM +0800 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:22:56PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > anything go horribly wrong if that person replaced /sbin/init with something > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? IIRC, init is the first thing executed by the kernel (that is why it has PID 1). I think everything will go horribly bad- but if you can spare a system, why don't you try it? -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 5:56:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23AA14C8C for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA05557; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:55:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:55:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Cc: Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: <19990519155014.A1803@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: : On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:22:56PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: : > anything go horribly wrong if that person replaced /sbin/init with something : > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? : IIRC, init is the first thing executed by the kernel (that is why it has PID : 1). : : I think everything will go horribly bad- but if you can spare a system, why : don't you try it? I imagine (since I don't have a spare system) :-) that essentially, your new init will just happily come up in a single-user, console-only, read-only filesystem mode, and be happy doing so. After all, boot -s just runs /sbin/init instead of /bin/sh, right? Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 5:58:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F6A14C0D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA05568; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:58:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:58:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Cc: Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Matt Behrens wrote: : I imagine (since I don't have a spare system) :-) that essentially, : your new init will just happily come up in a single-user, console-only, : read-only filesystem mode, and be happy doing so. After all, boot : -s just runs /sbin/init instead of /bin/sh, right? Ah, fudge. Swap /bin/sh and /sbin/init in that last sentence... Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 6: 6:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D359614C0D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:06:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saper@system.pl) Received: from localhost (saper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) with ESMTP id PAA16441 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:09:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:09:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marcin Cieslak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? Just have a look at PicoBSD, they have replaced /sbin/init with something lighter. /stand/sysinstall is also an example of working init replacement. Yes, try, but be prepared to do everything manually (namely mounting filesystems and expoliting the richness of /etc/rc* files). Remember about static linking and mounting the fs with dynamic libraries. However, the kernel should be usable anyway. -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 6:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server01.ilap.com (server01.ilap.com [204.50.90.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B964155E2 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phorechuk@docucom.ca) Received: from phorechuk (server17.docucom.ca [209.5.109.17]) by server01.ilap.com (8.8.7/Internet.Light.and.Power.Inc.) with SMTP id JAA12809 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000a01bea1fc$f9648ea0$73f8d7a5@phorechuk.docucom.ca> From: "Paul Horechuk" To: Subject: Boot Problems Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:39:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In an attempt to make more room on /usr, I did created a directory in /var for the libexec files. I copied the directory over and then linked with ln -s /var/libexec /usr/libexec. This has worked for several other directories that I had to move. Unfortunately, during the reboot the system is looking for /usr/libexec/dev/getty, which does not exist at this point, or so it seems. As a result, I can neither login via console or telnet (a similar message appears on the console). I had just finished upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3.1 stable via cvsup (RELENG_3). The system was in the process of make upgrade before the out of space warning. This had aborted the process and was when I started moving files. I have tried the recovery method, via the 2.2.6 CD, yet I can't seem to get any recognizable commands to the emergency shell. Any help other than reinstalling would be appreciated. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 6:58: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E35E15604 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:52:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id QAA63703; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:34 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Ilya Balashov Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Not reproduceable on real -stable (Was: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) Message-ID: <19990519160434.A60737@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Ilya Balashov , Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Ilya Balashov on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:07:13PM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:07:13PM +0400, Ilya Balashov wrote: > reproduce is too easy.... > reboot system... > run "top"... and remember free memory... > run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" > run "top" again... and almost all free memory LEAKED !!!! > This is not reproduceable on my 3.2-STABLE system: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Sun May 16 23:51:55 EEST 1999 CPU: Pentium Pro (198.67-MHz 686-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29945856 (29244K bytes) ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) da0: 4157MB (8515173 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4157C) } Just after ``tar cf /dev/null /usr'' has been started: +------- | last pid: 41864; load averages: 1.19, 1.21, 1.14 up 2+14:12:35 14:42:24 | 88 processes: 3 running, 85 sleeping | | Mem: 11M Active, 2876K Inact, 11M Wired, 4272K Cache, 3456K Buf, 488K Free | Swap: 96M Total, 48M Used, 48M Free, 50% Inuse | | | PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND | 262 ru 101 0 1684K 288K RUN 21.5H 91.11% 91.11% mutt | 41636 ru -6 0 548K 280K biord 0:10 1.76% 1.76% tar | 41819 root -6 0 520K 228K piperd 0:00 1.54% 0.15% sh +------- } In the middle of the process: +------- | last pid: 47507; load averages: 0.62, 1.07, 1.13 up 2+14:29:51 14:59:40 | 78 processes: 78 sleeping | | Mem: 12M Active, 2840K Inact, 11M Wired, 3504K Cache, 3461K Buf, 488K Free | Swap: 96M Total, 45M Used, 51M Free, 47% Inuse | | | PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND | 41636 ru -6 0 548K 280K biord 0:37 2.15% 2.15% tar +------- } Right after it has finished: +------- | last pid: 60715; load averages: 0.06, 0.16, 0.18 up 2+15:22:41 15:52:30 | 83 processes: 83 sleeping | | Mem: 9204K Active, 5948K Inact, 11M Wired, 2624K Cache, 3446K Buf, 488K Free | Swap: 96M Total, 48M Used, 48M Free, 50% Inuse | | | PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND +------- I can't see any memory-related problems. By the way, my /usr is as follows: # df -k -i /usr Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/da0s1f 2956432 2096002 623916 77% 216596 497642 30% /usr Why don't you guys upgrade your systems to -stable? Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 7:48:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nhj.nlc.net.au (nhj.nlc.net.au [203.24.133.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E41C15557 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john.saunders@nlc.net.au) Received: (qmail 14137 invoked by uid 1000); 20 May 1999 00:48:50 +1000 Date: 20 May 1999 00:48:50 +1000 Message-ID: <19990519144850.14136.qmail@nhj.nlc.net.au> From: "John Saunders" To: "Jose M. Alcaide" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a COMPAT22 flag should be added to 3.2's /etc/make.conf X-Newsgroups: nlc.lists.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <374296E8.3AAD6EDC@we.lc.ehu.es> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (Linux/2.0.37 (i686)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In freebsd-stable you wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > They are also commented out. Did you uncomment them or something? If so > > then just add a line for COMPAT22. > > Yes, I already did it. :-) > > What I wanted to say was that the COMPAT22 flag (commented out or not, > this could be a point for discussion) should be added to the 3.2's > /etc/make.conf. I've submitted a PR to get it added (commented out) to make.conf. Although it was for -current which has a COMPAT3x flag as well. Cheers. -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ . | John Saunders - mailto:john@nlc.net.au (EMail) | ,--_|\ | - http://www.nlc.net.au/ (WWW) | / Oz \ | - 02-9489-4932 or 04-1822-3814 (Phone) | \_,--\_/ | NORTHLINK COMMUNICATIONS P/L - Supplying a professional, | v | and above all friendly, internet connection service. | +------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 7:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.aps-services.com (adsl-209-232-134-22.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.232.134.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE4D14CCA for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davey@web1.aps-services.com) Received: from dave ([192.168.0.12]) by web1.aps-services.com (8.9.1/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA02357; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905191451.HAA02357@web1.aps-services.com> From: davey@aps-services.com To: Seth Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:56:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ADSL?? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.1.19990518231312.04207490@granite.sentex.ca> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Go with the External ASDL modem, I have Pacific Bell ASDL and I am running a freebsd box 2.2.7 with two nics and running natd. With that said and also paying Warner, to make sure the configurations were right, Pacific Bell found out I was not running Windows 95 and refused to support me as a customer. The point I am trying to make is that as you go farther away from their hardware recommendations, the harder it is to get help. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 8:15:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412B414D32 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA14336; Thu, 20 May 1999 00:10:39 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3742D3A2.CF9B4AAF@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:07:15 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. References: <199905181750.KAA12909@deal1.bogs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Shenaut wrote: > > >The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out > >compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of > >the X libraries. > > Isn't this sort of dependency supposed to be handled automagically? No. The ports system deal with dependency on other ports, not dependencies on old and deprecated versions of FreeBSD. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 9: 3: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F9114C28 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA06044; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:24:32 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda06042; Wed May 19 08:24:17 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA00647; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905191522.IAA00647@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdiGl629; Wed May 19 08:21:34 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: "Ilya Balashov" Cc: "Greg Quinlan" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 15:07:13 +0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:21:34 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , "Ilya Balashov" writes: > > That is it!!!!!! > > > > Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > > once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot > > problem, and > > kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > > > > I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. > > > > This can easily be reproduced..... > reproduce is too easy.... > reboot system... > run "top"... and remember free memory... > run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" > run "top" again... and almost all free memory LEAKED !!!! Don't use top, use vmstat! Vmstat is a better tool for monitoring VM performance. The memory is used by buffers which will eventually be reassigned for use by other buffers, named objects, or anonymous objects. Run vmstat 5. Then fire up something large like netscape, tripwire, or view an email with HTML in it using exmh2. Then terminate the application. You will see the free pool grow to some large number. It will appear to "leak" away as the system uses memory. The system will not free those pages until fre goes below a threshold. When it does free the pages you will see a number of pages in the sr (scan rate) or fr (freed) columns, which will eventually become zero and the system cycles through the whole "process" again while running the next application. Of course the more memory you have the longer it will take reach the threshold and less work will be required by the system to keep the free pool size above the threshold. To determine whether you have a memory leak, periodically perform a swapinfo -k. If you notice the amount of swap space being used constantly rising, you may have a memory leak. To determine whether you have a kernel memory leak you will need to watch wired in top or systat. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 9:51:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net (dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net [209.212.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC2F15083 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.noc.cup.ndp.net [127.0.0.1]) by dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA61407; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy McConnell To: Jonathan Frazier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSL?? In-Reply-To: <374228E3.DD646607@wolfnet-irc.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 May 1999, Jonathan Frazier wrote: }I am getting an ADSL connection set up this next week and need some }help/opinions. I have never done it on a FBSD system before. I am }running 3.2-stable as of last night. My options are the Cisco 675 }external ADSL modem or the 605 Internal ADSL modem. I'm not sure what's }out there for FBSD and ADSL and if my system can use the internal NIC. }Any suggestions would be appreciated. Go with external. Much more flexible, and you can choose a NIC that is known to work with FreeBSD. Besides, that way you can negotiate with your DSL provider to use the external "modem" as where they stop their support - don't let them mess with your FreeBSD machine! Success story: 3.1-RELEASE Using the Kingston 10/100 NIC that PacBell shipped! I use natd, works very well. I'm over 17,000 feet from the central office, and I can get 1.08Mbps max throughput (measured by fetching the latest version of netscape). Not too bad for $50/month. I had a small problem using a second 10/100 NIC and a 10/100 NIC on a windows box on the internal net through a 10mbps NetGear hub... but worked around it by forcing the windows box to use 10mbps in software. -andy -- Andy McConnell $B??8~N}(B $B0BEHN6(B Network and IP Service Division, NTT America "If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." - M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10: 0:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles504.castles.com [208.214.165.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBBD14DA5 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03264; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905191656.JAA03264@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Ilya Balashov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 10:37:19 BST." <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:56:04 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That is it!!!!!! > > Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, and > kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. You totally fail to understand how memory is managed by FreeBSD, and are thus grasping at imaginary problems. Don't do this. The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage, do not interact with the 'ahc' driver, and are unlikely to cause anything to panic. Ask yourself this - if there is a fatal memory management problem in FreeBSD, why isn't everyone else seeing it? How many FreeBSD users are there? How many of you are there? Look somewhere else for your problem. Maybe your CPU fan has stopped again; get someone to shine a light in your ear. 8) -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10: 5:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56F21151E8 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10k9mo-0000Ng-00; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:05:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, someone wanted to experiment > with a new environment based right on top of the raw BSD kernel. Would > anything go horribly wrong if that person replaced /sbin/init with something > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? > > Just hypothetically speaking, of course. > > -Michael Robinson That should work fine. FYI, the install disk does this. /sbin/init is replaced by the installation sofware. Beware that your /sbin/init may have to do some system setup stuff itself (like configuring network interfaces, mounting other filesystems). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281EA1540D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA02457; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:05:43 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3742DA0C.638A3EE7@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:34:36 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/lkm References: <19990518232400.A321@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > > Hi! > > I got from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.2-STABLE fine except this: > > root@hawk: [8] /dev # modstat > modstat: /dev/lkm: Device not configured > > root@hawk: [9] /dev # uname -a > FreeBSD hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Tue May 18 > 23:15:05 EEST 1999 george@hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr:/usr/src/sys/compile/ADAMO > i386 > > Ideas (or what should I sent to be more helpfull) ? LKM was deprecated on 3.1. That usually means it is out by the next version. It might just not be out, and be just a matter of compiling a kernel with "options LKM". But you shouldn't be using it. Is there anything you still have as a lkm only? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10: 6:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA641500B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA02491; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:06:02 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3742E747.5D2D656D@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:31:03 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aleksander Rozman - Andy Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 References: <199905190757.JAA22813@sundance.KKS.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aleksander Rozman - Andy wrote: > > I was looking around 'net few days ago, and I came across some files made > for FreeBSD 4.0, but after that I looked on FreeBSD.org and there wasn't > any version 4.0. Is this just a hoax or is FreeBSD 4.0 in existence? 4.0 is the next major release of FreeBSD. For now, and for a while, all -stable releases of FreeBSD will be in the 3.x line. These are minor releases, which do not introduce big changes and we try our best to avoid breaking compatibility backward compatibility (binary, file formats, etc). Meanwhile, our fearless developers are cooking the 4.0 version. This branch is known as 4.0-current, or just -current (since when 4.0 becomes stable, the current branch will become 5.0-current). Our developers are fearless because a -current system is something in development, and, thus, subject to all sort of bugs, which can wipe out your disks, burn your monitor, erase your BIOS, overheat your CPU(s), spit out your PCI cards, send the fans flying (sometimes throwing stuff at them first), make international phone calls to phone sex services, print pornography until your printer runs out of paper/toner (sorry, no such luck... it's just the Stark report), send insulting faxes to your boss, cheat on the mob and blame you for it, attract attention for the gentle I.R.S. personel, blow your house fuses, open the gas and then set your house on fire, make your girlfriend break up with you (or your wife cheat on you), and bomb Yuguslavia. This last one we are trying to debug, though. Because of the above, we advise against using -current. If you so insist, the following rules must be obeyed: 1) Read cvs-all. No, I'm not kidding. I mean it. 2) Read freebsd-current. Yeah, that one too. 3) If something fails, it's probably because you missed a message on cvs-all or freebsd-current. 4) If that's not the case, it's probably a temporary bug. Cvsup again after the appropriate time (minimum of one hour, though one full day is not unreasonable). 5) If it still crashes *at the same location*, then it's probably your fault. Junk your customized settings, and try to reproduce it with a vanilla system. 6) If you can reproduce it even with a vanilla system, then you might actually have stumbled on a bug. Congratulations! Find out what the bug is, and send us the patches. 7) If you are not capable of the above, you might just keep quiet and wait until someone fixes it. See steps 1 and 2 for how do you know someone fixed it. 8) OTOH, you might help tracking the bug. See the handbook on getting crash dumps, kernel traces, and such stuff. 9) If you loose all data on your hard disks because of a bug, that's one of the risks of running -current. Either you can deal with that, or you shouldn't be running -current. These rules, though written tongue-in-cheek, are for real. FreeBSD 4.0-current is *not* supposed to work all the time. It is being *developed*. And saying "Hey! I have a bug!" does *NOT* help developers. Furthermore, sometimes it breaks *on purpose*, while things are being changed, and the fixes are *not* immediate. If you can live with that, and think you have any compelling reason to run -current, read the handbook for further instructions. Sorry if this seems too harsh, but many people are just not used to the concept of a development tree available publicly, and think of it as the "latest version". It is *not* the latest version. When it is *ready*, it will be the latest version. Until then... read the above. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10: 9:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B7214D00 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA02576; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:06:26 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3742EA7B.81D12C06@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 01:44:43 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilya Balashov Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ilya Balashov wrote: > > > This can easily be reproduced..... > reproduce is too easy.... > reboot system... > run "top"... and remember free memory... > run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" > run "top" again... and almost all free memory LEAKED !!!! The run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" again and "top" again. Memory has not leaked. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:12:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0914D81; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA27023; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:12:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason J. Horton" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.1-RELEASE not seeing all the RAM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 3.1-RELEASE box running, and it keeps running out of memory. The odd thing is 'dmesg' shows the machine having 16M of RAM, while BIOS shows 128M... The system is a PPro 200mHz running a GENERIC kernel. 'dmesg' output below. Are there any known issues as to why the kernel would not see all the RAM? FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 15 11:08:08 GMT 1999 jkh@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 199432716 Hz CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 Features=0xf9ff real memory = 15728640 (15360K bytes) avail memory = 12288000 (12000K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0340000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci0.17.0 -Jason J. Horton Man of Mystery Intercom Online Inc. 212.378.2202 | http://www.intercom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:17:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D3914DA5; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (earth.kawartha.com [204.101.15.14]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15961; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3742F2FC.47016B17@kawartha.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:21:00 -0400 From: OCD Support X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason J. Horton" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1-RELEASE not seeing all the RAM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's really strange as we have a 3.1-RELEASE running here on a Pentium Pro 200 w/515k cache and it finds all the memory properly... wondering if maybe it's a motherboard issue? Just an offthewall guess...:) Paul "Jason J. Horton" wrote: > I have a 3.1-RELEASE box running, and it keeps > running out of memory. The odd thing is 'dmesg' > shows the machine having 16M of RAM, while > BIOS shows 128M... The system is a PPro 200mHz > running a GENERIC kernel. 'dmesg' output below. > Are there any known issues as to why the kernel > would not see all the RAM? > > FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 15 11:08:08 GMT 1999 > jkh@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 199432716 Hz > CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 > > Features=0xf9ff > real memory = 15728640 (15360K bytes) > avail memory = 12288000 (12000K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0340000. > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x02 on > pci0.0.0 > chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 > ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 > ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on > pci0.17.0 > > -Jason J. Horton > Man of Mystery > Intercom Online Inc. > 212.378.2202 | http://www.intercom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [142.154.7.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A522314D60; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA09551; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:25:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: OCD Support Cc: "Jason J. Horton" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1-RELEASE not seeing all the RAM In-Reply-To: <3742F2FC.47016B17@kawartha.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From LINT: # MAXMEM specifies the amount of RAM on the machine; if this is not # specified, FreeBSD will first read the amount of memory from the CMOS # RAM, so the amount of memory will initially be limited to 64MB or 16MB # depending on the BIOS. If the BIOS reports 64MB, a memory probe will # then attempt to detect the installed amount of RAM. If this probe # fails to detect >64MB RAM you will have to use the MAXMEM option. # The amount is in kilobytes, so for a machine with 128MB of RAM, it would # be 131072 (128 * 1024). So (to Jason Horton) put this line in your kernel: options "MAXMEM=(128*1024)" On Wed, 19 May 1999, OCD Support wrote: > That's really strange as we have a 3.1-RELEASE running here on a Pentium Pro > 200 w/515k cache and it finds all the memory properly... wondering if maybe > it's a motherboard issue? Just an offthewall guess...:) > > Paul > > "Jason J. Horton" wrote: > > > I have a 3.1-RELEASE box running, and it keeps > > running out of memory. The odd thing is 'dmesg' > > shows the machine having 16M of RAM, while > > BIOS shows 128M... The system is a PPro 200mHz > > running a GENERIC kernel. 'dmesg' output below. > > Are there any known issues as to why the kernel > > would not see all the RAM? > > > > FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Feb 15 11:08:08 GMT 1999 > > jkh@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 199432716 Hz > > CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) > > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 > > > > Features=0xf9ff > > real memory = 15728640 (15360K bytes) > > avail memory = 12288000 (12000K bytes) > > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0340000. > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > > chip0: rev 0x02 on > > pci0.0.0 > > chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 > > ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 > > ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 > > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > > fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on > > pci0.17.0 > > > > -Jason J. Horton > > Man of Mystery > > Intercom Online Inc. > > 212.378.2202 | http://www.intercom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > melange@yip.org - Mustard gas: The kids love it! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:28: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.comm.hq.af.mil (mail.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.80.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FE6815205; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsletten@nova.org) Received: from nova.org (sam-gatt0011.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.87.92]) by mail.comm.hq.af.mil (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA09663; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3742F50E.401F62B6@nova.org> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:29:50 -0400 From: Brian Sletten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason J. Horton" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.1-RELEASE not seeing all the RAM References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have a 3.1-RELEASE box running, and it keeps > running out of memory. What are your ulimits set to? If you have a repeatable task that usually dies for you, try doing the following from within bash: ulimit -d unlimited ulimit -s unlimited ulimit -m unlimited ulimit -l unlimited And then give it a try. If you want to affect a more permanent change, you can modify /etc/login.conf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:34:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEE714D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA29248; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma029059; Wed, 19 May 99 13:31:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: <002401bea1db$30df4180$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> To: Greg Quinlan Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Ilya Balashov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where is your memory leak? "Inactive" memory is replaceable cache and is not evidence of any memory leakage. You've got 84 megs of available memory in your 'top' output below (not including your swap). SB On Wed, 19 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > That is it!!!!!! > > Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, and > kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > > I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. > > This can easily be reproduced..... > > Daniel do you use the 'ahc' controller? > > Can others that use the 'ahc' controller also check 'top' > > last pid: 47457; load averages: 0.15, 0.06, 0.01 up 1+00:50:22 > 10:19:24 > 55 processes: 1 running, 54 sleeping > CPU states: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.4% system, 0.4% interrupt, 98.1% > idle > Mem: 12M Active, 72M Inact, 30M Wired, 6432K Cache, 8007K Buf, 2536K Free > Swap: 128M Total, 1024K Used, 127M Free, 1% Inuse > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 585 root 2 0 1608K 1156K select 8:28 0.00% 0.00% natd > 406 root 2 0 2344K 2008K select 0:25 0.00% 0.00% named > 602 root 2 0 1448K 916K select 0:19 0.00% 0.00% nmbd > 507 root 2 0 1488K 900K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% httpd > 509 root 2 0 1488K 880K select 0:04 0.00% 0.00% httpd > 583 root 2 0 896K 528K select 0:03 0.00% 0.00% natd > 453 root 2 0 1256K 744K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% sendmail > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel C. Sobral > To: Ilya Balashov > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: 18 May 1999 15:27 > Subject: Re: 3.1(3.2)-stable memory leaks > > > >Ilya Balashov wrote: > >> > >> i running 3.1-stable durring last month... and all of this time, i have > >> problems with memory... > >> after reboot top says: > >> Mem: 12M Active, 5351K Inact, 19M Wired, 9380K Cache, 8291K Buf, 620K > Free > >> > >> i start coping some files (about 100mb), and after that top says: > >> Mem: 20M Active, 78M Inact, 19M Wired, 4540K Cache, 8284K Buf, 1892K Free > >> > >> Inactive memory growing from 5M to 78M.... 75M leaked !!! > > > >It's inactive. Why do you think there is a leak? Just because things > >are cached in case you need them again? > > > >-- > >Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > >dcs@newsguy.com > >dcs@freebsd.org > > > > "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:37:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0264514D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA76768; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:37:29 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00ea01bea21e$3bad8a20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:37:14 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Previously Mike Smith wrote: >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! Do you get many laughs? Yes! I remember you, you're the one with so much time on his hands you play 'bounce' with TCP. >Look somewhere else for your problem. Maybe your CPU fan has stopped >again; get someone to shine a light in your ear. Person insults now... Gauche aren't we? Any other problems you do not want people to talk about? >Ask yourself this - if there is a fatal memory management problem in >FreeBSD, why isn't everyone else seeing it? How many FreeBSD users are >there? How many of you are there? How many people have EXACTLY my hardware config', kernel config', and services....hmmmm none! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith To: Greg Quinlan Cc: Daniel C. Sobral ; Ilya Balashov ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 19 May 1999 17:58 Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >> That is it!!!!!! >> >> Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot >> once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, and >> kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > >You totally fail to understand how memory is managed by FreeBSD, and >are thus grasping at imaginary problems. Don't do this. > >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage, do >not interact with the 'ahc' driver, and are unlikely to cause anything >to panic. > >Ask yourself this - if there is a fatal memory management problem in >FreeBSD, why isn't everyone else seeing it? How many FreeBSD users are >there? How many of you are there? > >Look somewhere else for your problem. Maybe your CPU fan has stopped >again; get someone to shine a light in your ear. 8) >-- >\\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith >\\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:41:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0C14D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA05526; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma005268; Wed, 19 May 99 13:38:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:38:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: RE: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: To: Ilya Balashov Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I am starting to see a common thread....... I use the 'ahc' controller. > > > > This can easily be reproduced..... > reproduce is too easy.... > reboot system... > run "top"... and remember free memory... > run "tar cvf /dev/null /usr" > run "top" again... and almost all free memory LEAKED !!!! > This is NOT LEAKAGE. This is caching of the data in case you need it again. If you don't, it will be reused! Once again, "Inactive" is NOT "leaked". It's "well, we have some data that you may need in the future, so we'll keep it around, but if you need this memory for something else, we'll discard it." To prove this, just run the following script (as a user with no memory restrictions). What it will do is fill up all available memory, reclaim "Inactive" memory, fill up swap, and then crash, freeing up everything and causing all memory to be listed in the "free" output. Like so: Before: Mem: 12M Active, 132M Inact, 19M Wired, 6952K Buf, 213M Free Swap: 512M Total, 512M Free After: Mem: 4084K Active, 544K Inact, 18M Wired, 252K Cache, 7128K Buf, 353M Free Swap: 512M Total, 15M Used, 496M Free, 3% Inuse see? the script: #!/usr/bin/perl # run at your own risk. Haven't had problems here, but YMMV. push @a ,("a"x65536); while (1) { push @a,@a;} SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:44:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3768814D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA09896; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma009313; Wed, 19 May 99 13:43:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:43:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: <00ea01bea21e$3bad8a20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> To: Greg Quinlan Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, Greg, I'm the one who played "bounce" with TCP. If you're going to insult someone, at least get it right. SB On Wed, 19 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > Previously Mike Smith wrote: > >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... > > Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! > Do you get many laughs? > > Yes! I remember you, you're the one with so much time on his hands you play > 'bounce' with TCP. > > >Look somewhere else for your problem. Maybe your CPU fan has stopped > >again; get someone to shine a light in your ear. > > Person insults now... > > Gauche aren't we? > Any other problems you do not want people to talk about? > > >Ask yourself this - if there is a fatal memory management problem in > >FreeBSD, why isn't everyone else seeing it? How many FreeBSD users are > >there? How many of you are there? > > How many people have EXACTLY my hardware config', kernel config', and > services....hmmmm none! > > > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Smith > To: Greg Quinlan > Cc: Daniel C. Sobral ; Ilya Balashov ; > freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: 19 May 1999 17:58 > Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot > > > >> That is it!!!!!! > >> > >> Here is output 'top' after 1 day. This could easily cause a panic/reboot > >> once swap has run-out and may also be related to the ahc reboot problem, > and > >> kernel panic reboots I have been experiencing. > > > >You totally fail to understand how memory is managed by FreeBSD, and > >are thus grasping at imaginary problems. Don't do this. > > > >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage, do > >not interact with the 'ahc' driver, and are unlikely to cause anything > >to panic. > > > >Ask yourself this - if there is a fatal memory management problem in > >FreeBSD, why isn't everyone else seeing it? How many FreeBSD users are > >there? How many of you are there? > > > >Look somewhere else for your problem. Maybe your CPU fan has stopped > >again; get someone to shine a light in your ear. 8) > >-- > >\\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > >\\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > >\\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:47:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DA714D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA51581; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) From: Geff Hanoian Message-Id: <199905191747.KAA51581@kusanagi.boing.com> Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-Reply-To: <00ea01bea21e$3bad8a20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> from Greg Quinlan at "May 19, 1999 6:37:14 pm" To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Spews: > Previously Mike Smith wrote: > >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... > > Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! > Do you get many laughs? > Greg, Do you? Many of us are continuing to laugh. Not due to your lack of knowledge, but the fact that you are unaware of the lack. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:51:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF32154BF for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA00853; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:51:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <011101bea220$31afa380$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Seth" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:51:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My memory isn't what it use to be! (pun intended) Public apology: Sorry Seth! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Seth To: Greg Quinlan Cc: Mike Smith ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 19 May 1999 18:44 Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >Actually, Greg, I'm the one who played "bounce" with TCP. If you're going >to insult someone, at least get it right. > >SB > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:51:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56163155C1 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (deal1.bogs.org [198.137.203.51]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23013 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deal1.bogs.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by deal1.bogs.org (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA16380 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905191751.KAA16380@deal1.bogs.org> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 May 1999 00:07:15 +0900." <3742D3A2.CF9B4AAF@newsguy.com> Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:41 -0700 From: Greg Shenaut Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3742D3A2.CF9B4AAF@newsguy.com>, "Daniel C. Sobral" cleopede: >Greg Shenaut wrote: >> >> >The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out >> >compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of >> >the X libraries. >> >> Isn't this sort of dependency supposed to be handled automagically? > >No. The ports system deal with dependency on other ports, not >dependencies on old and deprecated versions of FreeBSD. Ahh--so this is a feature, not a bug. -Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 10:57:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D9514D2B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA12294; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:57:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Geff Hanoian" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:57:28 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So Geff... Maybe you can educate me then.... After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the threshold... What type of memory would be used next? Greg -----Original Message----- From: Geff Hanoian To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk Cc: mike@smith.net.au ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 19 May 1999 18:47 Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >Greg Spews: > >> Previously Mike Smith wrote: >> >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the >> >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... >> >> Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! >> Do you get many laughs? >> > >Greg, > > Do you? Many of us are continuing to laugh. Not due to your lack >of knowledge, but the fact that you are unaware of the lack. > >Geff > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 11: 7:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F74A1557C for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id OAA28539; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma028026; Wed, 19 May 99 14:06:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> To: Greg Quinlan Cc: Geff Hanoian , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allow me to jump in quickly: What threshold? Here's the way I've seen it work (empirical observation playing around with that perl script I just sent along): Memory listed as "free" gets malloced first. Then, "Inactive" memory gets used. Finally, swap is used. There may be other steps in the process, but the order of these three should be correct. SB On Wed, 19 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > So Geff... > > Maybe you can educate me then.... > > After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the > threshold... > What type of memory would be used next? > > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geff Hanoian > To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk > Cc: mike@smith.net.au ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: 19 May 1999 18:47 > Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot > > > >Greg Spews: > > > >> Previously Mike Smith wrote: > >> >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >> >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... > >> > >> Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! > >> Do you get many laughs? > >> > > > >Greg, > > > > Do you? Many of us are continuing to laugh. Not due to your lack > >of knowledge, but the fact that you are unaware of the lack. > > > >Geff > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 11: 8:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450D152ED for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA51795; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) From: Geff Hanoian Message-Id: <199905191808.LAA51795@kusanagi.boing.com> Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-Reply-To: <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> from Greg Quinlan at "May 19, 1999 6:57:28 pm" To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: boing@boing.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, As Mike TRIED to point out, the numbers in top indicate the break down of physical ram. So what is your question? This isn't a Mickeysoft OS you know. Geff > So Geff... > > Maybe you can educate me then.... > > After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the > threshold... > What type of memory would be used next? > > Greg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Geff Hanoian > To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk > Cc: mike@smith.net.au ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: 19 May 1999 18:47 > Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot > > > >Greg Spews: > > > >> Previously Mike Smith wrote: > >> >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >> >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... > >> > >> Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! > >> Do you get many laughs? > >> > > > >Greg, > > > > Do you? Many of us are continuing to laugh. Not due to your lack > >of knowledge, but the fact that you are unaware of the lack. > > > >Geff > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 11:14:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E2D14F27 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27300; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:14:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <014701bea223$56858aa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Geff Hanoian" Cc: Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:13:46 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes! Amongst many of the talents of obtained in the last 6 months of using FreeBSD is the ability to read! :) Thanks Geff! Greg -----Original Message----- From: Geff Hanoian To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk Cc: boing@boing.com ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 19 May 1999 19:10 Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >Greg, > > As Mike TRIED to point out, the numbers in top indicate the break >down of physical ram. So what is your question? This isn't a Mickeysoft >OS you know. > >Geff > >> So Geff... >> >> Maybe you can educate me then.... >> >> After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the >> threshold... >> What type of memory would be used next? >> >> Greg >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Geff Hanoian >> To: greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk >> Cc: mike@smith.net.au ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> >> Date: 19 May 1999 18:47 >> Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >> >> >> >Greg Spews: >> > >> >> Previously Mike Smith wrote: >> >> >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the >> >> >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... >> >> >> >> Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! >> >> Do you get many laughs? >> >> >> > >> >Greg, >> > >> > Do you? Many of us are continuing to laugh. Not due to your lack >> >of knowledge, but the fact that you are unaware of the lack. >> > >> >Geff >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12: 3:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EB615274 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:03:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfieber@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA72574; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:03:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:03:17 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-Reply-To: <00ea01bea21e$3bad8a20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > Previously Mike Smith wrote: > >The Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free statistics refer to the > >disposition of physical memory. They are unrelated to swap usage..... > > Physical memory unrelated to swap.... that's a new one! You are misinterpreting what top is is reporting. Of course physical memory and swap are related but the particular numbers in question do not have anything to do with swap. As an analogy, an oil pressure gauge and a fuel gauge are related in that they both indicate some operational parameter of an engine, but the oil pressure gauge doesn't tell you anything about how much fuel you have left, it tells you about the oil pressure. Likewise, the Active/Inactive/Wired/Cache/Buf/Free figures tell you absolutely nothing about swap, they tell you about physical memory. Unfortunately the correct interpretation in this case isn't as obvious as it is with the oil pressure gague. As a general rule on *any* system, you cannot interpret a reported number unless you know how the number was calculated and you (recursively) understand each element of the calculation. These things are in desparate need of careful documentation. Incidentally, this is also why you cannot directly compare figures between different operating systems. You sometimes can't even compare between different versions of the same operating system. The calculation of "SIZE" and "RES" as reported by top changed between FreeBSD 2.x and 3.x for instance. You claim to have evidence of a memory leak when in fact there is absolutely no such evidence in the data you report. You have gobs of free memory and your swap space has hardly been touched. As someone else mentioned, you would have to chew through about 84 megabytes before swap would even be touched. Then you have yet another 120 or so before you run into serious trouble. Whatever problem your system is having, a memory leak and/or shortage is definately not it. Good luck tracking down the real probelm. -john To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12: 8:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq1.emergingtech.org (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1740151A2 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq1.emergingtech.org) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq1.emergingtech.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA26511 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:16:08 GMT (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199905191316.NAA26511@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:16:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSDers, Adobe has its Acrobat 4.0 reader available for LINUX. Has anyone tried to install it as a plugin to Netscape for FreeBSD 3.x ? This is to read .pdf files. http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrrwhatsnew.html#download Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq1.emergingtech.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12:12:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix.aecinfo.com (unix.aecinfo.com [209.146.217.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06CBF1546E; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitayai@aecinfo.com) Received: from p09 (tor-239.on.ca.aecinfo.com [209.146.217.239]) by unix.aecinfo.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20822; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:12:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mitayai@aecinfo.com) Message-ID: <005401bea22b$87715ec0$efd992d1@aecinfo.com> Reply-To: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: , Subject: MySQL 322 port Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:12:23 -0400 Organization: AEC Infocenter, Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiya... i'm running a 2.2.8-stable system with the latest stable-src and ports dists via cvsup (as of noon today EDT). I've completely removed perl and mysql and am trying to reinstall them via the ports collection, but mysql keeps whining that it wants a perl of a greater version that the one in the ports collection. Any idea why that is? And yes, i'm using the latest /usr/share/mk files too... :) -Mit --- Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Director of Internet Technology AEC InfoCenter, Inc Suite 200, 25 Imperial Street / Toronto, Ontario / M5P 1B9 / Canada Phone: +1(416)489-9000 Fax: +1(416)489-3201 Email: mitayai@aecinfo.com Web: http://www.aecinfo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12:33:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FF314DAA for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:33:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1004.bossig.com [208.26.241.4]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17583; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37431210.9D2C6628@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:33:36 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 References: <199905191316.NAA26511@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne M Barnes wrote: > > Dear FreeBSDers, > > Adobe has its Acrobat 4.0 reader available for LINUX. > > Has anyone tried to install it as a plugin to Netscape > for FreeBSD 3.x ? This is to read .pdf files. I keep going there and it says that it is the pre-release version. I am waiting for the "real thing". Kent > > http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrrwhatsnew.html#download > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq1.emergingtech.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12:38:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E55E14DAA for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:38:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 97479 invoked by uid 1003); 19 May 1999 19:38:15 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 1999 19:38:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199905191316.NAA26511@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear FreeBSDers, > > Adobe has its Acrobat 4.0 reader available for LINUX. > > Has anyone tried to install it as a plugin to Netscape > for FreeBSD 3.x ? This is to read .pdf files. > > http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrrwhatsnew.html#download > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq1.emergingtech.org > > > Works fine here -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horst.bfd.com (horst.bfd.com [12.9.219.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A653A14D4C for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Received: from HARLIE.bfd.com (bastion.bfd.com [12.9.219.14]) by horst.bfd.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA71873; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ejs@bfd.com) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:40:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199905191316.NAA26511@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear FreeBSDers, > > Adobe has its Acrobat 4.0 reader available for LINUX. > > Has anyone tried to install it as a plugin to Netscape > for FreeBSD 3.x ? This is to read .pdf files. What do you gain by having it as a plugin as opposed to an external program? I'm serious, I don't know, but I view pdfs all the time automatically, because netscape knows to use xpdf to display pdfs in a seperate window. As I understand it, Linux and FreeBSD Netscape plugins are not exchangeable, but I don't know why. Perhaps because Netscape FreeBSD is still not ELF. On the other hand, there are people using Linux Netscape on FreeBSD, including plugins. If there isn't an ELF Netscape for FreeBSD soon, I may just go that route, since either running an aout Netscape or a Linux Netscape under a mostly-ELF FreeBSD 3.X will cause the same (or similar) increases in memory usage, due to lack of sharing libc and X libraries. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 12:41:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4DA14D38 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00519; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:38:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905191938.MAA00519@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: "Geff Hanoian" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 18:57:28 BST." <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:38:51 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So Geff... > > Maybe you can educate me then.... > > After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the > threshold... > What type of memory would be used next? Malloc doesn't allocate physical memory, it allocates virtual memory. Physical memory is allocated by the VM system to back virtual memory as required, and recycled when it's not. Malloc activity and physical memory usage are more or less completely unrelated; you can't draw any connections between them without a far deeper understanding of the system. In your case, I strongly suggest going back to basics and avoiding jumping to conclusions. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 13:30:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07A414E82 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loverso@sitara.net) Message-ID: <37431EBF.F491667C@sitara.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:27:43 -0400 From: "John R. LoVerso" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kingston 10/100 enet (3.2-BETA) References: <373C99CC.FEC14AE0@loverso.southborough.ma.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm trying to get a Kingston 10/100 ethernet card working in a Pentium II > box. This card uses a 21140-AF, so I expected it should work. To follow-up on my own post, this was a Dumb User Error (tm). The BIOS was set for PnP for the Win98 that was previously on the box, and I hadn't switched it off when installing 3.2-BETA. The box is now running 3.2-RELEASE with three 10/100 cards installed and operating correctly. However, the patches I sent for pci/if_de.c should still be considered, as they at least help tell why a card isn't attach()ing! For instance, I finally thought to check the PnP after I plugged in a newer Kingston 10/100 card using the PNIC (a Tulip clone) and saw similar failure messages from if_pn.c. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 15:18:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35FE15511 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:18:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (Hamilton-ppp44838.sympatico.ca [206.172.76.31]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25947; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA52700; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:19:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:19:23 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Michael Robinson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question Message-ID: <19990519181923.B50578@mAd> References: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199905190922.RAA44161@netrinsics.com>; from Michael Robinson on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:22:56PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:22:56PM +0800, Michael Robinson wrote: > anything go horribly wrong if that person replaced /sbin/init with something > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/internals.html . -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 15:45:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC5014E24 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29560; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: "Mike Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 18:37:14 BST." <00ea01bea21e$3bad8a20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:46:18 -0700 Message-ID: <29557.927153978@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please end this thread now. I don't see that it's going in any useful directions at this point and it's only wasting the time of folks like myself to have to read it. Thank you. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 15:52:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A79154FB for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29589; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Aleksander Rozman - Andy , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 May 1999 01:31:03 +0900." <3742E747.5D2D656D@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:52:37 -0700 Message-ID: <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Our developers are fearless because a -current system is something > in development, and, thus, subject to all sort of bugs, which can > wipe out your disks, burn your monitor, erase your BIOS, overheat > your CPU(s), spit out your PCI cards, send the fans flying LOL - sorry Daniel, you've just been condemned to format this into a FAQ entry. It would be too much of a shame to have this explanation vanish into the mail archives. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 16:29:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2C115164 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10982; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199905192329.QAA10982@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <199905191316.NAA26511@klentaq1.emergingtech.org> from Wayne M Barnes at "May 19, 99 01:16:08 pm" To: stabilizer@klentaq.com (Wayne M Barnes) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > > Adobe has its Acrobat 4.0 reader available for LINUX. > > Has anyone tried to install it as a plugin to Netscape > for FreeBSD 3.x ? This is to read .pdf files. I have done (and am doing) Netscape 3.04 and Acrobat Reader 3.0 on FreeBSD 2.2.8. The Netscape is the native FreeBSD version and the Acrobat is under Linux emulation. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 16:35:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from queasy.outpost.co.nz (outpost.inspire.net.nz [203.96.157.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 130B915164 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crh@outpost.co.nz) Received: (qmail 5545 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 23:35:29 -0000 Received: from officedonkey.outpost.co.nz (HELO officedonkey) (192.168.1.3) by queasy.outpost.co.nz.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa with SMTP; 19 May 1999 23:35:29 -0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Craig Harding" Organization: Outpost Digital Media Ltd To: blitz@pdq.net Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:35:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Reply-To: isdn@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org, isdn@freebsd.org In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: <19990519233544.130B915164@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Clay Smith wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BEA175.949FD1A0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it really necessary to send HTML versions of your email? > I have been working on a machine running FreeBSD 3.1-Stable and have > failed to get the ISDN terminal adapter that is hooked up to it to > work correctly. There is a generic 56k on com2 that works great. > On com 1, the ISDN terminal adapter is just...dead. PPP will not > communicate with it. The terminal adapter has been tested and > works fine on other machines, just not FreeBSD. Is there > something special about ISDN adapters that I don't know about? > (note: the terminal adapter is external and the modem is internal, > not that that makes a lot of difference as long as the ports are > set up right in the bios/jumpers) Most TA's act just like very fast modems. Have you configured PPP to do all the right initialisation of the TA? It should just require some AT command strings (including dialing) just like a normal modem. Most of the Windreck drivers that come with the TAs seem to do all this config for you automagically, so you won't be aware of what's required. Often the default config may be with command echoing and response codes off, so until you tell it otherwise the TA will act dumb. The important thing is to get the TA using the right protocol. In my experience (of a single Zyxel Omninet) the TA supports V.120, X.75, and PPP. Depending on your ISPs ISDN interface, you may have to use PPP to get multiple channel bonding. The TA does this weird semi-PPP mode (I don't know much about the details) where it acts as an intermediary between your machine and the ISP without PPP on your machine really knowing it's there. It transparently interfaces between two channels to the ISP and one channel back to your machine. -- C. -- Craig Harding Head of Postproduction, Outpost Digital Media Ltd "I don't know about God, I just think we're handmade" - Polly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17: 2:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A5F152ED; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id UAA02124; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9905192003.ZM2122@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:03:40 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: yokota@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Errors compiling 3-STABLE kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I've copied all the video and keyboard stuff out of GENERIC, but I'm still getting the following errors on a kernel compile of a recently (this morning) cvsup'd & make world'd system: loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o: In function `exchange_scr': syscons.o(.text+0x2efb): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scinit': syscons.o(.text+0x4593): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x45a0): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x45bc): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x477d): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x479c): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `init_scp': syscons.o(.text+0x4a74): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' syscons.o(.text+0x4a80): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `scmmap': syscons.o(.text+0x5623): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `set_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x5805): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x583f): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x58ca): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5927): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow *** Error code 1 Stop. My kernel config file is as follows: # # FIREWALL # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident FIREWALL # for squid, etcetera maxusers 32 ## Filesystems # options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem # avoid needing to load in - Allen options PROCFS #Process filesystem options MFS # for tmp - Allen options FDESC # use with symbolic links options KERNFS # Kernel filesystem - Allen options PROCFS #Process filesystem ## Standard options # options INET #InterNETworking options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options "SCSI_DELAY=15000" options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor ## Extra misc options # options "NO_F00F_HACK" # no need - not Pentium - Allen options "MD5" # may remove - Allen #options OPEN_MAX=1024 # for squid - Allen options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # so that can make sure what kernel version is running - Allen options "MAXMEM=(64*1024)" # spot the last bit of memory - Allen options DIAGNOSTIC # as long as I'm hacking - Allen options INVARIANT_SUPPORT # enable INVARIANT for hacked files - Allen options KTRACE # ditto options "ICMP_BANDLIM" # prevent ICMP error message floods - Allen options NFS_NOSERVER # no NFS server - Allen options "P1003_1B" # POSIX realtime - Allen options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" # ditto options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" # ditto # remember to up data size limit in login.conf for squid, daemon login classes - namely # to 256 MB at least for squid and 1152 MB (128 MB + 1024 MB) for daemon (for MFS); # enable once have increased swap file size to 1280 MB (128 MB + 1152 MB) #options "MAXDSIZ=(1152*1024*1024)" ## Basic configuration # config kernel root on da0 ## Hardware # controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 #disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # may transfer in one - Allen options "AUTO_EOI_1" # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller ahc0 # adaptec - Allen #options AHC_TAGENABLE # see if can use it without problems - Allen controller scbus0 at ahc0 # do we need a scbus1 for the exterior interface? - Allen device da0 disk da0 at scbus0 target 0 #disk da1 at scbus0 target 1 # will set to 1 unless have reason otherwise device sa0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device pass0 # CAM passthrough controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 #device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty # splash screen/screen saver #pseudo-device splash # Enable PnP support in the kernel. This allows you to automaticly # attach to PnP cards for drivers that support it and allows you to # configure cards from USERCONFIG. See pnp(4) for more info. #controller pnp0 # not currently needed - Allen # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 ## Serial ports # device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr ## Parallel port # device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 # Novell NE2000 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether ## Misc pseudo-devices # pseudo-device vn 1 # in case of needing a temporary swap file - Allen pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's It doesn't make any difference whether or not I comment out the splash screensaver. Incidentally, using GENERIC, users other than root have the screen not refreshing with scrolling - it overlays the rest of the screen. -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17: 5: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C691512D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11172 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:05:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199905200005.RAA11172@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: GNATS To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:05:00 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A while back (like, in March) I submitted a bug report (well, really an enhancement request) with a patch. I've since been thinking about it, and have a better idea on how to accomplish what the patch was intended to do. How do I change bin/10705 from open to closed? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17:16:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D541520C for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA61020; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:16:07 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNATS Message-ID: <19990519171607.A60855@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <199905200005.RAA11172@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905200005.RAA11172@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from Chad R. Larson on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:05:00PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:05:00PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > How do I change bin/10705 from open to closed? I've closed it. Only committers can do so, so all you have to do is somehow ask them to do it. :-) Suitable methods would include following up to the PR (to freebsd-gnats-submit) with the request, emailing a committer who has looked into the matter, emailing committers, etc. It is not typically hard to convince us to close PR's when we don't have to do anything. :-) Matt -- Matthew Hunt * UNIX is a lever for the http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * intellect. -J.R. Mashey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17:31:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F161527B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id RAA08607; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:33:28 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08605; Wed May 19 17:33:10 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA04197; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905200031.RAA04197@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdNW4193; Wed May 19 17:31:04 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: "Geff Hanoian" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 18:57:28 BST." <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:31:04 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <012201bea221$0faeffa0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk>, "Greg Quinlan" w rites: > So Geff... > > Maybe you can educate me then.... > > After processes have taken all available memory (malloc) down to the > threshold... > What type of memory would be used next? It uses short-term memory first then long-term memory. While on the topic. Did you unplug your ethernet cable? If you did, that may be your problem. Unplugging your ethernet cable can cause your memory to leak out into the ether. See pp 234 (Section 14.15) of UNIX Power Tools about a similar discussion :-) Seriously, Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System (Marshall Kirk McKusick) discusses this topic at length. System Performance and Tuning (Mike Loukides) discusses the three thresholds (DESFREE, LOTSFREE, and MINFREE) that UNIX uses and any other associated controls on VM algorithms. These are highly recommended reading to understand this relatively complex topic. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17:44: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10863154BF for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:rh7XdputgRiB+drmkhHIPqQiO3YRWNB9@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id JAA23321; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:44:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id JAA03641; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:47:54 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905200047.JAA03641@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "Allen Smith" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Errors compiling 3-STABLE kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 20:03:40 -0400." <9905192003.ZM2122@beatrice.rutgers.edu> References: <9905192003.ZM2122@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:47:54 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi. I've copied all the video and keyboard stuff out of GENERIC, but >I'm still getting the following errors on a kernel compile of a >recently (this morning) cvsup'd & make world'd system: How old was your 3.1-STABLE system before this morning's cvsup? When did you cvsup before? >loading kernel >syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': >syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' >syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' >syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' [...] Are you sure you did the following? cd /sys/i386/conf config FIREWALL cd ../../compile/FIREWALL make depend make >Incidentally, using GENERIC, users other than root have the screen not Do you mean you can rebuild the GENERIC kernel without the above error on the same machine? >refreshing with scrolling - it overlays the rest of the screen. I don't understand :-( Would you describe the problem in more details? Also, please show the output from `dmesg' after starting the system with the GENERIC kernel. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 17:53:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from booger.messerschmitt (cust108.tnt1.dial.tor2.uunet.ca [209.47.186.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2989915168 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:53:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kid@secureshell.com) Received: from eye (kid@eye.messerschmitt [192.168.1.11]) by booger.messerschmitt (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA81002 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:07:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kid@secureshell.com) From: John Chia Reply-To: kid@secureshell.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISO image for 3.2-RELEASE? Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:01:57 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051921033001.00244@eye> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I remember someone posting a url to a cd image of freebsd-3.x, is this still available? -- John Chia "And the generic scsi device | | | | |." -- pupil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 18:49:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nightfly.apk.net (nightfly.apk.net [207.54.149.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 111B714C9B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rme@nightfly.apk.net) Received: (qmail 295 invoked by uid 1000); 20 May 1999 01:51:52 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: lpt0: message shows up twice X-Attribution: rme From: rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) Date: 19 May 1999 21:51:51 -0400 Message-ID: <8790ak33uw.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'ed to 3.2-STABLE (current as of last night) from 3.1-STABLE and I started seeing this (output from dmesg): ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port I'd been using nlpt already, and would see the following: ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port It almost looks like the attach routine for lpt is getting called twice. Looking at src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c didn't do anything for my inexperienced eye. I can still print ok, but this doesn't seem right. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 18:58:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0415114C9B for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:58:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10kI67-0005Bj-00; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:58:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:58:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Yusuf Goolamabbas Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange messages with DPT controller on 3.2-STABLE In-Reply-To: <19990518022841.20447.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 18 May 1999, Yusuf Goolamabbas wrote: > I cvsup 3.2-STABLE yesterday on a box containing the DPT SMARTRAID IV > PM3334UW attached to 6 9GB disks in a RAID-5 configuration. The RAID > partition is NFS exported > > Today, I see the following message on the console and the system is > locked up tight. I have to do a reboot > > (da0: dpt0: 0:0:0) CCB: 0xC550807c - timed out > (da0: dpt0: 0:0:0) CCB: 0xC5508744 - timed out > > Similar messages also occured last week. This machine was running for > a long time on 3.1-RELEASE. I started tracking stable on this and such > locks started to occur > > Any ideas, Yusuf Did you build a kernel with the same config file? There are several DPT kernel compile options that can affect timeout handling. > -- > Yusuf Goolamabbas > yusufg@outblaze.com Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 21: 6:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3E914C83 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA65468; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:06:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990519210621.A65459@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:06:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "R. Matthew Emerson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <8790ak33uw.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <8790ak33uw.fsf@nightfly.apk.net>; from R. Matthew Emerson on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:51:51PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just cvsup'ed to 3.2-STABLE (current as of last night) from 3.1-STABLE > and I started seeing this (output from dmesg): ..snip.. > I'd been using nlpt already, and would see the following: > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa Did you update your kernel config file? 'nlpt' is no longer. Replace all instances of 'nlpt' with 'lpt'. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 21:26:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nightfly.apk.net (nightfly.apk.net [207.54.149.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBCC3150F6 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rme@nightfly.apk.net) Received: (qmail 287 invoked by uid 1000); 20 May 1999 04:27:55 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice References: <8790ak33uw.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> <19990519210621.A65459@nuxi.com> X-Attribution: rme From: rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) Date: 20 May 1999 00:27:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 21:06:21 -0700" Message-ID: <87n1z0xt4k.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Lines: 18 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David O'Brien" writes: > > I just cvsup'ed to 3.2-STABLE (current as of last night) from 3.1-STABLE > > and I started seeing this (output from dmesg): > ..snip.. > > I'd been using nlpt already, and would see the following: > > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > > Did you update your kernel config file? 'nlpt' is no longer. Replace > all instances of 'nlpt' with 'lpt'. Yes, of course: # parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 22: 0:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell2.ba.best.com (shell2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BE614FB9 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asaddi@philosophysw.com) Received: from localhost (asaddi@localhost) by shell2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id WAA04344 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:00:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell2.ba.best.com: asaddi owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Saddi X-Sender: asaddi@shell2.ba.best.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice In-Reply-To: <19990519210621.A65459@nuxi.com> Message-ID: Organization: Philosophy SoftWorks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 19 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > I just cvsup'ed to 3.2-STABLE (current as of last night) from 3.1-STABLE > > and I started seeing this (output from dmesg): > ..snip.. > > I'd been using nlpt already, and would see the following: > > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > > Did you update your kernel config file? 'nlpt' is no longer. Replace > all instances of 'nlpt' with 'lpt'. I just cvsup'ed and made world a few hours ago and I've noticed this same problem. (I also took care to change nlpt to lpt.) After digging around, I found the problem: lpt.o is linked twice. I manually edited my /usr/src/sys/compile/xxxx/Makefile, removed the second reference to lpt.o and rebuilt the kernel... now lpt0 only gets probed once. That's the cause of the problem... I have no idea what the solution is. :) I guess only a config guru can know... -- Allan Saddi "The Earth is the cradle of mankind, asaddi@philosophysw.com but we cannot live in the cradle http://www.philosophysw.com/asaddi/ forever." - K.E. Tsiolkovsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 19 22:47:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nightfly.apk.net (nightfly.apk.net [207.54.149.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 086A414C83 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rme@nightfly.apk.net) Received: (qmail 268 invoked by uid 1000); 20 May 1999 05:49:40 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice References: X-Attribution: rme From: rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) Date: 20 May 1999 01:49:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: Allan Saddi's message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 22:00:06 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <87vhdob897.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allan Saddi writes: > > After digging around, I found the problem: lpt.o is linked twice. I > manually edited my /usr/src/sys/compile/xxxx/Makefile, removed the > second reference to lpt.o and rebuilt the kernel... now lpt0 only gets > probed once. > > That's the cause of the problem... I have no idea what the solution is. :) > I guess only a config guru can know... > Well, I am not a config guru, but the problem appears to be an unnecessary lpt line in sys/i386/conf/files.i386. The lpt line in sys/conf/files already does the job. (I am assuming that sys/conf/files is the right place for it, since that file appears to be for non-machine-specific things.) Deleting the following line from sys/i386/conf/files.i386 and re-running config seems to solve the problem: i386/isa/lpt.c optional lpt device-driver -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 2: 4:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454E614EEA for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.8.8/8.8.8.s) with ESMTP id MAA29390; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:04:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55BC01F8F; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:04:36 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:04:36 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 Message-ID: <19990520120436.B2857@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <3742E747.5D2D656D@newsguy.com> <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:52:37PM -0700 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:52:37PM -0700, "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Our developers are fearless because a -current system is something > > in development, and, thus, subject to all sort of bugs, which can > > wipe out your disks, burn your monitor, erase your BIOS, overheat > > your CPU(s), spit out your PCI cards, send the fans flying > > LOL - sorry Daniel, you've just been condemned to format this into a > FAQ entry. It would be too much of a shame to have this explanation > vanish into the mail archives. :-) Just my point :-) I forwarded the message to our internal list and got some very positive replys :-) -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 2:34:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFC914D54 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10000 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:33:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:33:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199905200933.LAA10000@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISO image for 3.2-RELEASE? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Chia wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > I remember someone posting a url to a cd image of freebsd-3.x, is this > still available? We have two "bare bones" CD images of 3.2-Release at ftp7.de.freebsd.org. They contain just the release, XFree86 and the live filesystem, but no packages or distfiles. They're useful if you need to install the system from CD, and everything else can be installed from the net. However, I recommend that you buy the CD-ROM set from Walnut Creek. You will get a complete set including packages and everything, so you don't have to load your favourite apps from the net. And last but not least, you support the FreeBSD project this way. Regards Oliver PS: If you download the CD images, I'd suggest that you make a donation to the FreeBSD project (there's a form for that at www.freebsdmall.com). PPS: Our FTP server at ftp7.de is currently a bit crowded, because of the recent release of StarOffice 5.1, so it might be a bit difficult to get into the site, and it is probably a bit slow. I'm sorry for that, but we have neither wcarchive's hardware nor its connectivity. ;-) (Note: the server supports "reget", in case the download is interrupted.) -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 3:16:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4783A14E1B for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 03:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05690 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:16:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009501bea2a9$bb12d960$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:15:48 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG LAST TIME: The problem which I had reported, exactly, with the precise kernel panic message, did not get a response. That 's right not one! So many want-to-experts out there who know all-to-little. However thanks to those who gave some constructive assistance earlier, it was greatly appreciated, if to no avail. I have again upgraded (3.2-R) and still the machine panics. All indications (given the load the machine is under and the duration before panics.... 2-4days) show that if it were simply a hardware fault then it would occurr almost immediately. I would be the first to admit that I do not know FreeBSD all that well...I have never claimed to know-it-all, but I do see that I have a genuine problem with FreeBSD and my specific hardware configuration. I have given honest feedback, since I had the opinon that this was what the forum was all about. I will always admit to flaws in my knowledge or mistakes, since I am new to this OS. What seems strange to me and possibly most other people is that the original purpose of this mailling list was to further the stability, distribution, use, and acceptance of FreeBSD. The latest trail of e-mails was unneccessary and I agree a waste of everyone's time. I appreciate from time to time a good 'flame' (if it comes from those who know.) What I dislike from the countless few, who instead of putting forward a valid arguement, instead just want to be one of the crowd, using less then moronic suggestions. All this does is show how little those few want to contribute. and finally .... if you have read down thus far then you are probably interested in the staying on the mailling list for the benefits most people get, some of the time. Thanks Greg -----Original Message----- From: Jordan K. Hubbard To: Greg Quinlan Cc: Mike Smith ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 19 May 1999 23:46 Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >Please end this thread now. I don't see that it's going in any useful >directions at this point and it's only wasting the time of folks like >myself to have to read it. > >Thank you. > >- Jordan > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 3:16:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from htcdns1.htc.com.tw (p239180.sub64.ficnet.net.tw [202.145.239.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3433414E1B for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 03:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ray_hsu@htc.com.tw) Received: from 10.9.32.2 by htcdns1.htc.com.tw (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 20 May 1999 18:18:11 +0800 Received: from htcdns1.htc.com.tw (HTCDNS1 [10.9.32.1]) by htctpemail1.HTC.COM.TW with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id LC5LL9KN; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:14:38 +0800 Received: from 202.145.239.180 by htcdns1.htc.com.tw (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 20 May 1999 18:18:10 +0800 Message-ID: <3743E143.9F57490B@htc.com.tw> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:17:39 +0800 From: Vegetarian Reply-To: ray_hsu@htc.com.tw X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 7: 5:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk (mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk [194.223.249.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D590C14D8B; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamn@csl.com) Received: from csl.com (hermes.criterion.canon.co.uk [194.223.249.13]) by mailhost.criterion.canon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25587; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:56:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <374415C8.4003B9E1@csl.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:01:44 +0000 From: Adam Nealis Organization: Criterion Software, Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.34 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MySQL 322 port References: <005401bea22b$87715ec0$efd992d1@aecinfo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > > Hiya... > > i'm running a 2.2.8-stable system with the latest stable-src and ports dists via cvsup (as of noon > today EDT). I've completely removed perl and mysql and am trying to reinstall them via the ports > collection, but mysql keeps whining that it wants a perl of a greater version that the one in the > ports collection. Any idea why that is? I have MySQL 3.2.2 installed fine on my 2.2.7-STABLE. I built it from the ports collection too. First, what verison of perl _are_ you running? in sh: for f in `whereis perl`; do if [ -x $f -a -f $f ]; then echo $f ; $f -version | grep version; fi; done will get you all the versions of all the perls that whereis finds - but check /us/local/bin anyway ;). IIRC, the 'BSD system perl in a lot of 2.2.X is perl 4.x. This is set in /etc/make.conf, BTW. It was a long time ago, but I recall hacking /etc/make.conf to point to /usr/local/bin/perl (coz that's the one the port builds), because a make world kept shafting my perl 5 with perl 4 before I found out what was happening. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 7:57: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rsfq.npi.msu.su (rsfq.npi.msu.su [194.67.81.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C06150AF for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from svysh@rsfq.npi.msu.su) Received: from handel (handel.rsfq.npi.msu.su [158.250.52.24]) by rsfq.npi.msu.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03965 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:56:35 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990520185625.007c1b60@rsfq.npi.msu.su> X-Sender: svysh@rsfq.npi.msu.su X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:56:25 +0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Sergei Vyshenski Subject: undocumented feature of mountd? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Undocumented feature of mountd? Let /usr/dir1 and /usr/dir2 belong to the same partition on the server, mounted locally as /usr. Then the following would not go: #/etc/exports: /usr/dir1 -ro client_host1 /usr/dir2 client_host1 In other words, mountd does not like to NFS-export different parts of the same filesystem to the same client host, but with NON-identical export attributes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:23:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9119714DC8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02535; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199905201522.IAA02535@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: from Marcin Cieslak at "May 19, 1999 03:09:45 pm" To: saper@system.pl (Marcin Cieslak) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Michael Robinson wrote: > > > like a properly configured Python interpreter and rebooted the system? > > Just have a look at PicoBSD, they have replaced /sbin/init > with something lighter. /stand/sysinstall is also > an example of working init replacement. > > Yes, try, but be prepared to do everything manually (namely > mounting filesystems and expoliting the richness > of /etc/rc* files). Remember about static linking > and mounting the fs with dynamic libraries. > > However, the kernel should be usable anyway. If I am not mistaken additional hooks have been added into the system to make it even easier to replace /sbin/init with what ever you like. I think you can specify this as a kernel compile time option, so you don't have to rename Python to /sbin/init, you can make a kernel load /sbin/Python for you :-) I would start by searching the mail archives of cvs-commit for /sbin/init and see what you find. Then look at the sysinstall binary and the PicoBSD stuff. Next go seek out the developers of these two wounder pieces of work and ask them how they did it :-) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD http://www.aai.dnsmgr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC3D14DC8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:23:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA21912; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:23:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374413A4.5BF35782@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:52:36 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 References: <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > LOL - sorry Daniel, you've just been condemned to format this into a > FAQ entry. It would be too much of a shame to have this explanation > vanish into the mail archives. :-) Oh, well, I suppose I can do it. What would be the Q? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:32:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351B514DC8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18990; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:32:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA41308; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905201532.IAA41308@vashon.polstra.com> To: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush In-Reply-To: <19990518221639.A64601@internal> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990518221639.A64601@internal>, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > I am using one NIS master together with two slaves. With the > upgrade to 3.2-STABLE, yppush fails when trying to update > the maps on the slaves. > > After suspecting a bug in the NIS system first, it turned > out that /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is the reason for that. > > When replacing libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c from 3.2-STABLE > with version 1.13.2.7 it works again. Using 1.13.2.8, > it breaks again. The cvs comment for the 1.13.2.8 commit > says: > > ------------------- snip --------------------------- > > 1.13.2.8 Wed Apr 28 1:27:55 1999 UTC by jdp > Branch: RELENG_3 > Diffs to 1.13.2.7 > > MFC 1.21 -> 1.22: Initialize "__progname" and "environ" before > calling _init() functions. > > ------------------- snap --------------------------- That is very strange! Could you please try an experiment for me? One at a time, comment out these lines in rtld.c: set_program_var("__progname", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); set_program_var("environ", env); and try to find out which one is causing the problem. And I'll have to issue my usual caution about messing with the dynamic linker. Make a copy of a known good dynamic linker, and have it handy in /usr/libexec in case you run into problems. If you break the installed version, it's very handy to have a working one all ready to "mv" back into place. If you lose your dynamic linker, then only statically linked programs will run. (I know you already know this Andre. The caution is for the benefit of others. :-) Thanks, John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:33:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF25A15558 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA23638; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:32:41 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37442A84.D84BBF88@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:30:12 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Marcin Cieslak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question References: <199905201522.IAA02535@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > I would start by searching the mail archives of cvs-commit > for /sbin/init and see what you find. Then look at the > sysinstall binary and the PicoBSD stuff. Next go seek out > the developers of these two wounder pieces of work and ask > them how they did it :-) Well, man loader.conf might be faster. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:36:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5ED151A3 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id SAA15185; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:32:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:32:41 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 Message-ID: <19990520183241.B13608@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: "Daniel C. Sobral" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com> <374413A4.5BF35782@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <374413A4.5BF35782@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:52:36PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:52:36PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > LOL - sorry Daniel, you've just been condemned to format this into a > > FAQ entry. It would be too much of a shame to have this explanation > > vanish into the mail archives. :-) > > Oh, well, I suppose I can do it. What would be the Q? > The question is already in the FAQ, and it's titled as "What is FreeBSD-current?" -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:38:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1391151A3 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19060; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA41353; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905201538.IAA41353@vashon.polstra.com> To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: <199905201522.IAA02535@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199905201522.IAA02535@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > If I am not mistaken additional hooks have been added into > the system to make it even easier to replace /sbin/init > with what ever you like. I think you can specify this > as a kernel compile time option, so you don't have to > rename Python to /sbin/init, you can make a kernel load > /sbin/Python for you :-) It looks like you can even specify a search path for init with the "init_path" variable in "/boot/loader.rc". At least there's a commented-out example of it in "/boot/defaults/loader.conf". John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:42:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897C14D04 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA25005; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:40:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37442C4D.B14BA992@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:37:49 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd 4.0 References: <29585.927154357@zippy.cdrom.com> <374413A4.5BF35782@newsguy.com> <19990520183241.B13608@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:52:36PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > > > LOL - sorry Daniel, you've just been condemned to format this into a > > > FAQ entry. It would be too much of a shame to have this explanation > > > vanish into the mail archives. :-) > > > > Oh, well, I suppose I can do it. What would be the Q? > > > The question is already in the FAQ, and it's titled as > "What is FreeBSD-current?" It's for the sake of humour, not information. I'd have to change the text a bit, since the original question was "I heard about FreeBSD 4.0. Does it really exists?". -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:46:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45161506F for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13665 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11600 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA84751 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:46:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:46:31 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: John Polstra Cc: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Message-ID: <19990520174631.A26506@internal> References: <19990518221639.A64601@internal> <199905201532.IAA41308@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905201532.IAA41308@vashon.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:32:12AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20-May-1999 at 08:32:12 -0700, John Polstra wrote: > In article <19990518221639.A64601@internal>, > Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > > > I am using one NIS master together with two slaves. With the > > upgrade to 3.2-STABLE, yppush fails when trying to update > > the maps on the slaves. > > > > After suspecting a bug in the NIS system first, it turned > > out that /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 is the reason for that. > > > > When replacing libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c from 3.2-STABLE > > with version 1.13.2.7 it works again. Using 1.13.2.8, > > it breaks again. The cvs comment for the 1.13.2.8 commit > > says: > > > > ------------------- snip --------------------------- > > > > 1.13.2.8 Wed Apr 28 1:27:55 1999 UTC by jdp > > Branch: RELENG_3 > > Diffs to 1.13.2.7 > > > > MFC 1.21 -> 1.22: Initialize "__progname" and "environ" before > > calling _init() functions. > > > > ------------------- snap --------------------------- > > That is very strange! Could you please try an experiment for me? Oh yes, it is. > One at a time, comment out these lines in rtld.c: > > set_program_var("__progname", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > set_program_var("environ", env); > > and try to find out which one is causing the problem. Done, it works if at least _one_ of the two lines is commented out. Deleting both also works... I wonder why this just breaks yppush (and only if you have at least two NIS slaves). I haven't seen any other bad behavior caused by that, but I have to confirm the yppush thing (after bothering Bill Paul and searching myself half the night :-). > And I'll have to issue my usual caution about messing with the > dynamic linker. Make a copy of a known good dynamic linker, and > have it handy in /usr/libexec in case you run into problems. If you > break the installed version, it's very handy to have a working one > all ready to "mv" back into place. If you lose your dynamic linker, Yes, I already had a copy of it, thanks anyway. > then only statically linked programs will run. (I know you already > know this Andre. The caution is for the benefit of others. :-) > > Thanks, > John -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:52:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0716714DDD for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19125; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA41434; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990520174631.A26506@internal> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Andre Albsmeier Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Thu, 20-May-1999 at 08:32:12 -0700, John Polstra wrote: >> One at a time, comment out these lines in rtld.c: >> >> set_program_var("__progname", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); >> set_program_var("environ", env); >> >> and try to find out which one is causing the problem. > > Done, it works if at least _one_ of the two lines is commented out. > Deleting both also works... Even stranger still! Please try leaving both lines in, but changing the spelling of the variable names while leaving their lengths the same (one at a time): set_program_var("__PrOgNaMe", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); set_program_var("eNvIrOn", env); Thanks, John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:57:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BA014D04 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA07086; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9905201158.ZM7084@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:58:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: Kazutaka YOKOTA "Re: Errors compiling 3-STABLE kernel" (May 19, 8:45pm) References: <9905192003.ZM2122@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <199905200047.JAA03641@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Subject: Re: Errors compiling 3-STABLE kernel Cc: stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On May 19, 8:45pm, Kazutaka YOKOTA (possibly) wrote: > > >Hi. I've copied all the video and keyboard stuff out of GENERIC, but > >I'm still getting the following errors on a kernel compile of a > >recently (this morning) cvsup'd & make world'd system: > > How old was your 3.1-STABLE system before this morning's cvsup? > When did you cvsup before? About... let's see... a month or so ago. > >loading kernel > >syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': > >syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' > >syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference to `vid_allocate' > >syscons.o(.text+0x26b): undefined reference to `vid_get_adapter' > [...] > > Are you sure you did the following? > > cd /sys/i386/conf > config FIREWALL > cd ../../compile/FIREWALL > make depend > make Yes. > >Incidentally, using GENERIC, users other than root have the screen not > > Do you mean you can rebuild the GENERIC kernel without the above > error on the same machine? Yes, so there's got to be something else in the kernel file that is an inobvious dependence. > >refreshing with scrolling - it overlays the rest of the screen. > > I don't understand :-( Would you describe the problem in more details? Well, when somebody other than root presses the space bar to advance the screen when scrolling, such as when reading a man page, the new text only overrwrites the old text - if the new text has a blank line, the old text remains. Clear still works to clear the screen, BTW. It's possible that this is because I have vidcontrol switching the screen to a different font... but the weird part is that it doesn't happen for root, which makes me think it might be a permission problem in the /dev directory. > Also, please show the output from `dmesg' after starting the system > with the GENERIC kernel. Ok, here's the current /var/run/dmesg.boot file: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Wed May 19 01:13:00 EDT 1999 root@lipman.rutgers.edu:/var/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions (200.46-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x562 Stepping=2 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 61771776 (60324K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0358000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 ide_pci0: rev 0xd0 int a irq 14 on pci0.0.1 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 vga0: rev 0x00 on pci0.2.0 ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ed1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0 ed1: address 00:60:67:2d:a1:6d, type NE2000 (16 bit) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failled for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2062MB (4223444 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 262C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 1010MB (2069860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1010C) Thanks, -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 8:58:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA3815177 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02634; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199905201555.IAA02634@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question In-Reply-To: <37442A84.D84BBF88@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "May 21, 1999 00:30:12 am" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: saper@system.pl (Marcin Cieslak), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > > I would start by searching the mail archives of cvs-commit > > for /sbin/init and see what you find. Then look at the > > sysinstall binary and the PicoBSD stuff. Next go seek out > > the developers of these two wounder pieces of work and ask > > them how they did it :-) > > Well, man loader.conf might be faster. Only if they are running a new enough version of FreeBSD :-) gndrsh:root {145}# uname -a FreeBSD gndrsh.aac.dev.com 3.1-STABLE FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Sat May 1 12:43:29 PDT 1999 root@br2.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 gndrsh:root {146}# man loader.conf No manual entry for loader.conf gndrsh:root {147}# Also no place in the 3.2 man page for loader.conf to I see anything that talks about how to cause the kernel to load a differenct /sbin/init. Remeber he wants to replace init, not the kernel! -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD http://www.aai.dnsmgr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 9: 1:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EAE1583D for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA15521; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:03:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:03:34 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Sergei Vyshenski Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: undocumented feature of mountd? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990520185625.007c1b60@rsfq.npi.msu.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 May 1999, Sergei Vyshenski wrote: > Undocumented feature of mountd? > > Let /usr/dir1 and /usr/dir2 belong to the same partition > on the server, mounted locally as /usr. Then the following would > not go: > > #/etc/exports: > /usr/dir1 -ro client_host1 > /usr/dir2 client_host1 > > In other words, mountd does not like to NFS-export different parts of > the same filesystem to the same client host, but with NON-identical > export attributes. Unfortunately, it is a documented bug of mountd. See exports(5): BUGS The export options are tied to the local mount points in the kernel and must be non-contradictory for any exported subdirectory of the local server mount point. It is recommended that all exported directories --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 9: 6:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4319415177 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24293 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02969 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA84921 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:43 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: John Polstra Cc: Andre Albsmeier , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Message-ID: <19990520180643.A26759@internal> References: <19990520174631.A26506@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Polstra on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:52:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20-May-1999 at 08:52:38 -0700, John Polstra wrote: > Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > On Thu, 20-May-1999 at 08:32:12 -0700, John Polstra wrote: > >> One at a time, comment out these lines in rtld.c: > >> > >> set_program_var("__progname", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > >> set_program_var("environ", env); > >> > >> and try to find out which one is causing the problem. > > > > Done, it works if at least _one_ of the two lines is commented out. > > Deleting both also works... > > Even stranger still! Please try leaving both lines in, but changing > the spelling of the variable names while leaving their lengths the > same (one at a time): > > set_program_var("__PrOgNaMe", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > set_program_var("eNvIrOn", env); Same as before, zero or one work, both break... And this breaks as well: set_program_var("p", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); set_program_var("e", env); But: changing set_program_var("environ", env); to set_program_var("environ", "test"); works (leaving the first line enabled). Might be a space problem? I assume, env is rather big... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 9:25: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F581520B for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19306; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA41666; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990520180643.A26759@internal> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Andre Albsmeier Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre Albsmeier wrote: >> set_program_var("__PrOgNaMe", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); >> set_program_var("eNvIrOn", env); > > Same as before, zero or one work, both break... > > And this breaks as well: > > set_program_var("p", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > set_program_var("e", env); > > > But: changing set_program_var("environ", env); > to set_program_var("environ", "test"); > > works (leaving the first line enabled). Might be a space problem? I assume, > env is rather big... Well, it is supposed to be doing the same thing that "src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c" already did before the change. It just does it a little bit sooner. I have to put this aside until later (hopefully tonight). Meanwhile, another interesting test would be this: set_program_var("__progname", NULL); set_program_var("environ", NULL); John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 9:27:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E70C15217 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id BAA02220; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:26:58 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3744373D.CDEB2872@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 01:24:29 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Marcin Cieslak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question References: <199905201555.IAA02634@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > Only if they are running a new enough version of FreeBSD :-) If it is not new enough for the man page, it probably doesn't have the init thingy either. > Also no place in the 3.2 man page for loader.conf to I see anything > that talks about how to cause the kernel to load a differenct /sbin/init. Well, it does require checking loader(8) for what variables can be changed... :-) Or you can just see what's available in /boot/defaults/loader.conf. > Remeber he wants to replace init, not the kernel! Yeppers. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 9:36: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47FB15444 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07985 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:35:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12660 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:35:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA85223 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:35:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:35:49 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: John Polstra Cc: Andre Albsmeier , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ld-elf.so.1 on 3.2-STABLE breaks yppush Message-ID: <19990520183549.A26838@internal> References: <19990520180643.A26759@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Polstra on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:25:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20-May-1999 at 09:25:06 -0700, John Polstra wrote: > > Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > >> set_program_var("__PrOgNaMe", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > >> set_program_var("eNvIrOn", env); > > > > Same as before, zero or one work, both break... > > > > And this breaks as well: > > > > set_program_var("p", argv[0] != NULL ? basename(argv[0]) : ""); > > set_program_var("e", env); > > > > > > But: changing set_program_var("environ", env); > > to set_program_var("environ", "test"); > > > > works (leaving the first line enabled). Might be a space problem? I assume, > > env is rather big... > > Well, it is supposed to be doing the same thing that > "src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c" already did before the change. It just > does it a little bit sooner. > > I have to put this aside until later (hopefully tonight). Meanwhile, > another interesting test would be this: > > set_program_var("__progname", NULL); > set_program_var("environ", NULL); Works. I am happy to do further tests, but I have to go home now and I don't want to try things like these via my dialup line :-) Tomorrow we can go on, of course. Thanks a lot, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 10:36:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F54B14C15 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 20 May 1999 17:36:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520173615.24308.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm using 3.1R on heavy loaded server ASUS/P-II-233/128Mb/Adaptec 2940UW. It worked good first 2-3 three weeks, but now I got a lot of panics - aprox. one crash per 1-2 day. The 2.2.X works on same hardware works without single crash for monthes... It's very possible that it is caused by hardware problems, but I can't confirm yet. So, I would like to hear expert's and user's opinion... (1) Is there known bugs in kernel that causes panic? (2) Did you got any panic on your new 3.1 server? How many? (3) Does 3.X kernel code is really "dangerous" relative to 2.2.x? For example: due to new CAM, SMP, softupdates ... P.S.: Excuse my ignorance, in case it is well discussed topic. Thanks, Sergey. ___ "It's great to be here, to see you all..." Scorpions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 10:41: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 172E314C15 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10kWoK-00035R-00; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:40:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:40:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990520173615.24308.qmail@nym.alias.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 20 May 1999, Sergey wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using 3.1R on heavy loaded server ASUS/P-II-233/128Mb/Adaptec 2940UW. It > worked good first 2-3 three weeks, but now I got a lot of > panics - aprox. one crash per 1-2 day. The 2.2.X works on same hardware > works without single crash for monthes... > > It's very possible that it is caused by hardware problems, but I can't > confirm yet. > > So, I would like to hear expert's and user's opinion... > > (1) Is there known bugs in kernel that causes panic? 3.1-RELEASE had some problems. 3.0-stable should be good now. > (2) Did you got any panic on your new 3.1 server? How many? See archives. > (3) Does 3.X kernel code is really "dangerous" relative to 2.2.x? > For example: due to new CAM, SMP, softupdates ... > > P.S.: Excuse my ignorance, in case it is well discussed topic. > > Thanks, Sergey. > ___ > "It's great to be here, to see you all..." > Scorpions. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 10:47: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uq.net.au (fox.uq.net.au [203.101.255.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC6814C15 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: from uq.net.au (dyn-1-129.dialin.uq.net.au [203.100.1.129]) by uq.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA02645; Fri, 21 May 1999 03:46:51 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-ID: <374442DD.EA069159@uq.net.au> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:14:06 +1000 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <19990520173615.24308.qmail@nym.alias.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You might want to update to 3.2 R and see if the problems persist. Andrew Sergey wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using 3.1R on heavy loaded server ASUS/P-II-233/128Mb/Adaptec 2940UW. It > worked good first 2-3 three weeks, but now I got a lot of > panics - aprox. one crash per 1-2 day. The 2.2.X works on same hardware > works without single crash for monthes... > > It's very possible that it is caused by hardware problems, but I can't > confirm yet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 11:27:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C121614D03 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA17866; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990520142603.023f9e20@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:26:03 -0400 To: Sergey , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990520173615.24308.qmail@nym.alias.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:36 PM 5/20/99 -0000, Sergey wrote: >Hi! > >I'm using 3.1R on heavy loaded server ASUS/P-II-233/128Mb/Adaptec 2940UW. It >worked good first 2-3 three weeks, but now I got a lot of >panics - aprox. one crash per 1-2 day. The 2.2.X works on same hardware >works without single crash for monthes... Hi, I have a machine that is slightly post 3.1R and so far (knock on wood), its been quite stable uname -v FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Fri Feb 19 11:21:12 EST 1999 uptime 90+ days. ... Its a fairly heavily used SMP box with 512M of RAM and an 2940U2W with 2 LVD SCSI drives... 100K+ web hits a day, ~ 15K worth of email, sent out in 4 batches throughout the day. I dont know how it compares to your load, but before I upgraded the OS to post 3.1R, it did panic once. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 12: 3:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6149F152D3 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18882; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:03:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:03:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199905201903.PAA18882@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/net if_var.h In-Reply-To: <199905201859.LAA03059@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> References: <199905201613.MAA18325@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199905201859.LAA03059@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Aren't these passed in and out via the kernel routing socket? Hummm.. No, they are not. Look closely at a program which uses the routing socket (e.g., `routed'). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 12:12:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7E114CC0 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00396; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905201909.MAA00396@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sergei Vyshenski Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: undocumented feature of mountd? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 May 1999 18:56:25 +0400." <3.0.5.32.19990520185625.007c1b60@rsfq.npi.msu.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:09:34 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Undocumented feature of mountd? Documented and well-known behaviour. > Let /usr/dir1 and /usr/dir2 belong to the same partition > on the server, mounted locally as /usr. Then the following would > not go: > > #/etc/exports: > /usr/dir1 -ro client_host1 > /usr/dir2 client_host1 > > In other words, mountd does not like to NFS-export different parts of > the same filesystem to the same client host, but with NON-identical > export attributes. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 13:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A612A15090 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15884 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:34:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:34:40 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Debugging a stalled connection Message-ID: <19990520163439.B15580@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington X-Phone: 1 606 335 7233 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a number of machines running 3.2-STABLE with no problem, except one, an "old" Pentium 200. It has an Intel PRO/100+ Server Adapter (fxp0), two IDE disks, and 1 IDE CDROM drive (dmesg below). This also was happening in later builds of 3.1-STABLE. Large transfers, such as an NFS-mount installworld or a ftp get of a file over approx 1MB, will stall regularly and indefinately. No other operation appears to be affected and I can start another ssh session with the "stalled" machine. How should I go about debugging this problem? thanks, kenn ---8<--- May 16 23:07:50 andover /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. May 16 23:07:50 andover /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 May 16 23:07:50 andover /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All ri ghts reserved. May 16 23:07:50 andover /kernel: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Sun May 16 04:26:32 EDT 1999 May 16 23:07:50 andover /kernel: root@alysheba.infoteam.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/AND OVER May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 198949163 Hz May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: CPU: Pentium/P55C (198.95-MHz 586-class CPU) May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x544 Stepping=4 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Features=0x8001bf May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: avail memory = 94982144 (92756K bytes) May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b7000. May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc02b709c. May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/splash.bmp" at 0 xc02b7140. May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: chip0: rev 0x1c on pci0.0.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: chip1: rev 0x07 on pci0.2.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: vga0: rev 0x41 int a irq 9 on pci0.4.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: ide_pci0: rev 0x01 int a irq 255 on pci0.5.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: ncr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 1 1 on pci0.14.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: fxp0: rev 0x08 int a irq 10 on pci0.15.0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:64:fc:a4 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: sc0 on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: sio0: type 8250 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: ide_pci: generic_dmainit 01f0:0: warning, IDE contr oller timing not set May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-32 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi -block-32 May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wd1: 202MB (415264 sectors), 683 cyls, 16 heads, 38 S/T, 512 B/S May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 16 on isa May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: acd0: drive speed 2067KB/sec, 128KB cache May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: acd0: Audio: play, 16 volume levels May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray May 16 23:07:51 andover /kernel: acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on i sa May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: npx0 on motherboard May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F 00F bug May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: Waiting 4 seconds for SCSI devices to settle May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: changing root device to wd0s1a May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: stray irq 7 May 16 23:07:52 andover /kernel: stray irq 7 May 16 23:07:52 andover timed[112]: slave to alysheba.infoteam.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 15:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFB914D35 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id RAA07969 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:55:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199905202255.RAA07969@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: CD-R (recordable) drive support? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:55:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FBSD 2.2.8 had this info in the wormcontrol(8) page, but I can't find it in 3.1. Does 3.1-STABLE support a Plextor PX-R412CS scsi CD-R drive? Thanks!! Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 16: 9:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell2.ba.best.com (shell2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB781589C for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asaddi@philosophysw.com) Received: from localhost (asaddi@localhost) by shell2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.sh) with ESMTP id QAA02571; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell2.ba.best.com: asaddi owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Saddi X-Sender: asaddi@shell2.ba.best.com To: Rich Winkel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-R (recordable) drive support? In-Reply-To: <199905202255.RAA07969@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: Organization: Philosophy SoftWorks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 May 1999, Rich Winkel wrote: > FBSD 2.2.8 had this info in the wormcontrol(8) page, but I can't find > it in 3.1. Does 3.1-STABLE support a Plextor PX-R412CS scsi CD-R > drive? I have a Plextor 8/20 CD-R and I've been using it successfully since 2.2.8. I use cdrecord & mkhybrid (found in ports). -- Allan Saddi "The Earth is the cradle of mankind, asaddi@philosophysw.com but we cannot live in the cradle http://www.philosophysw.com/asaddi/ forever." - K.E. Tsiolkovsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 16:18:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.erols.com (lcremeans.erols.com [216.164.87.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3D71530E for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.erols.com) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.erols.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA23450; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:18:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19990520191838.A23358@erols.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:18:38 -0400 From: Lee Cremeans To: Rich Winkel , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-R (recordable) drive support? References: <199905202255.RAA07969@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905202255.RAA07969@chumbly.math.missouri.edu>; from Rich Winkel on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 05:55:36PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 05:55:36PM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > FBSD 2.2.8 had this info in the wormcontrol(8) page, but I can't find > it in 3.1. Does 3.1-STABLE support a Plextor PX-R412CS scsi CD-R > drive? Take a look at /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord. It should do what you want (and it supports many more drives than the old worm driver did). -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 16:20:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D72415824 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adepoo@tamnet.com.mx) Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by correo.tamnet.com.mx (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA24539; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:20:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas To: Oliver Fromme Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISO image for 3.2-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <199905200933.LAA10000@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone point me to some information on how to create a bootable CD (iso image) like this 3.2-release.iso, I know have to use mkisofs or mkhybrid, but be a good idea to look at more information on how to use this commands. Also to create a bootable CD complete system (so I don't need a hard disk, or use this to have dumped filesystems to restore them). Is there a way to create a 2.88 floppy image (like the one to boot 3.x installation procedures) but without having a 2.88 floppy? This to make a boot image for some CDs with more information than the 1.44 ones? On Thu, 20 May 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > John Chia wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > > I remember someone posting a url to a cd image of freebsd-3.x, is this > > still available? > > We have two "bare bones" CD images of 3.2-Release at > ftp7.de.freebsd.org. They contain just the release, > XFree86 and the live filesystem, but no packages or > distfiles. They're useful if you need to install the > system from CD, and everything else can be installed > from the net. > > However, I recommend that you buy the CD-ROM set from > Walnut Creek. You will get a complete set including > packages and everything, so you don't have to load > your favourite apps from the net. And last but not > least, you support the FreeBSD project this way. > > Regards > Oliver > > PS: If you download the CD images, I'd suggest that > you make a donation to the FreeBSD project (there's > a form for that at www.freebsdmall.com). > > PPS: Our FTP server at ftp7.de is currently a bit > crowded, because of the recent release of StarOffice > 5.1, so it might be a bit difficult to get into the > site, and it is probably a bit slow. I'm sorry for > that, but we have neither wcarchive's hardware nor > its connectivity. ;-) (Note: the server supports > "reget", in case the download is interrupted.) > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Saludos Alberto de Poo TamNet - adepoo@tamnet.com.mx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 16:57:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88D0914DDF for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10kcge-0001vG-00; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:57:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Kenn Martin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Debugging a stalled connection In-Reply-To: <19990520163439.B15580@infoteam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 20 May 1999, Kenn Martin wrote: > I have a number of machines running 3.2-STABLE with no problem, except one, > an "old" Pentium 200. It has an Intel PRO/100+ Server Adapter (fxp0), two > IDE disks, and 1 IDE CDROM drive (dmesg below). This also was happening > in later builds of 3.1-STABLE. > > Large transfers, such as an NFS-mount installworld or a ftp get of a file > over approx 1MB, will stall regularly and indefinately. > > No other operation appears to be affected and I can start another ssh > session with the "stalled" machine. > > How should I go about debugging this problem? "netstat -i" will give you interface error counts. "netstat" will the status of all network connections. Check everything between the stalled machine and the client. This includes routers, switches, hubs, and cabling. Check error counters on all intervening equipment. Try switching MTU path discovery off. Misconfigured routers will break MTU discovery. Turn off TCP extensions. Broken routers and clients will not handle TCP extensions properly. > thanks, > kenn Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 20 23:15:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.portal2.com (ns1.portal2.com [203.85.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 623E914FFA for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yusufg@outblaze.com) Received: (qmail 7726 invoked from network); 21 May 1999 06:34:14 -0000 Received: from yusufg.portal2.com (203.85.226.249) by ns1.portal2.com with SMTP; 21 May 1999 06:34:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 29925 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 1999 06:15:20 -0000 Date: 21 May 1999 06:15:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990521061520.29924.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> From: Yusuf Goolamabbas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Trying to understand "proc: table is full" message Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a PII-333 box with 196MB of RAM and two SCSI disks (4GB,8GB) connected to an Adaptec 7880 card. I am running 3.2-STABLE cvsupped yesterday and have configured kernel with maxusers 64 and nmbclusters 4096. Also, I have set somaxconn to be 256 This machine gets a decent volume of mail and also gets a good traffic of web hits to sites which run a lot of CGI programs I started to see this messages since yesterday /kernel: proc: table is full on the console and in /var/log/messages Would appreciate if someone could provide pointers on how to interpret this message and what parameters I should be tweaking. I am considering upgrading the box to 512MB of RAM Thanks, Yusuf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 1: 9:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33DD14D61 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA78619; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:09:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Arjan de Vet Cc: alick@fas.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel References: <199905181629.SAA10570@adv.iae.nl> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 May 1999 10:09:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: Arjan de Vet's message of "Tue, 18 May 1999 18:29:54 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 11 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arjan de Vet writes: > The solution is to update the bootblocks with something like No. It's the loader you need to update, not the boot blocks. # cd /sys/i386/boot # make && make install DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 1:25:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB9F151F1 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA78687; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:25:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Matt Behrens Cc: Yiorgos Adamopoulos , Michael Robinson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Astonishingly stupid question References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 May 1999 10:25:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: Matt Behrens's message of "Wed, 19 May 1999 08:58:05 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Behrens writes: > On Wed, 19 May 1999, Matt Behrens wrote: > > : I imagine (since I don't have a spare system) :-) that essentially, > : your new init will just happily come up in a single-user, console-only, > : read-only filesystem mode, and be happy doing so. After all, boot > : -s just runs /sbin/init instead of /bin/sh, right? > > Ah, fudge. Swap /bin/sh and /sbin/init in that last sentence... No, it runs '/sbin/init -s', whereupon init(8) starts a shell. If you want to f* around with init(8) replacements, you should at the very least read the source code. Some software may become very confused if you do not establish an initial user and session. See setlogin(2), setsid(2). Apart from that, you can do practically anything you want. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 1:39: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3D615950 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA78729; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:38:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice References: <87vhdob897.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 May 1999 10:38:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: rme@nightfly.apk.net's message of "20 May 1999 01:49:40 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) writes: > Deleting the following line from sys/i386/conf/files.i386 and > re-running config seems to solve the problem: > > i386/isa/lpt.c optional lpt device-driver Actually, TRT is to change the third word on that line to 'olpt'. Fixed as of right now (files.i386 rev. 1.220.2.5). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 1:49:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951BC14D61 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id LAA24877; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:43:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:43:51 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Arjan de Vet , alick@fas.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel Message-ID: <19990521114351.A20628@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Arjan de Vet , alick@fas.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199905181629.SAA10570@adv.iae.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:09:47AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:09:47AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Arjan de Vet writes: > > The solution is to update the bootblocks with something like > > No. It's the loader you need to update, not the boot blocks. > > # cd /sys/i386/boot > # make && make install > No. To upgrade boot loader you want to # cd /sys/boot # make all install -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 1:52:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4038F14D61 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 01:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA78800; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:51:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Arjan de Vet , alick@fas.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't load 3.2-STABLE kernel References: <199905181629.SAA10570@adv.iae.nl> <19990521114351.A20628@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 May 1999 10:51:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov's message of "Fri, 21 May 1999 11:43:51 +0300" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov writes: > On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:09:47AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > # cd /sys/i386/boot > > # make && make install > No. To upgrade boot loader you want to > # cd /sys/boot > # make all install Oops! Teach me to check my facts before posting :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 2: 3:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77971596F for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id MAA29217; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:00:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:00:39 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Yusuf Goolamabbas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trying to understand "proc: table is full" message Message-ID: <19990521120039.A10590@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Yusuf Goolamabbas , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990521061520.29924.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990521061520.29924.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com>; from Yusuf Goolamabbas on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 06:15:20AM -0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 06:15:20AM -0000, Yusuf Goolamabbas wrote: > Hi, I have a PII-333 box with 196MB of RAM and two SCSI disks > (4GB,8GB) connected to an Adaptec 7880 card. I am running 3.2-STABLE > cvsupped yesterday and have configured kernel with maxusers 64 and > nmbclusters 4096. Also, I have set somaxconn to be 256 > > This machine gets a decent volume of mail and also gets a good traffic > of web hits to sites which run a lot of CGI programs > > I started to see this messages since yesterday > /kernel: proc: table is full > > on the console and in /var/log/messages > > Would appreciate if someone could provide pointers on how to interpret > this message and what parameters I should be tweaking. I am > considering upgrading the box to 512MB of RAM > > Thanks, Yusuf You need to bounce MAXUSERS. From the /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c: % /* % * Although process entries are dynamically created, we still keep % * a global limit on the maximum number we will create. Don't allow % * a nonprivileged user to use the last process; don't let root % * exceed the limit. The variable nprocs is the current number of % * processes, maxproc is the limit. % */ % uid = p1->p_cred->p_ruid; % if ((nprocs >= maxproc - 1 && uid != 0) || nprocs >= maxproc) { % tablefull("proc"); % return (EAGAIN); % } The formula for ``maxproc'' is ``maxproc = 20 + 16 * MAXUSERS'', and is hardcoded in /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 2:25:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cgi1.tm.net.my (provision.tm.net.my [202.188.95.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A7015906 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rezath@tm.net.my) Received: from setan.tmmaster ([202.188.127.2]) by cgi1.tm.net.my (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990521092507.HDFU24936@setan.tmmaster> for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:25:07 +0800 Message-ID: <010201bea36c$93c7e8a0$081603c8@tmmaster> From: "Rezamys" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:30:33 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FF_01BEA3AF.A1A06400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.203 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.203 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01BEA3AF.A1A06400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01BEA3AF.A1A06400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_00FF_01BEA3AF.A1A06400-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 6:33:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ciam.comtel.ru (unknown [195.208.64.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C989B15B36 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sem@ciam.ru) Received: from sem.ciam.ru ([192.168.45.205] helo=ciam.ru) by ciam.comtel.ru with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10kpR6-0000lv-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:34:04 +0400 Message-ID: <374560C3.F5DCB3F7@ciam.ru> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:33:55 +0400 From: Sergey Matveychuk Organization: CIAM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: troubles with nfs mounts in 3.2-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm waiting so long for 3.2 and ... subj %((( I had some troubles in 3.1 seldom, but now they are permanent. Just typing: mount_nfs machine:/dir /dir/dir1 and it hangs. kill -9 no help. Then I try after rebooting: mount_nfs machine:/dir /dir - it works!!! 8-0 Magic? There is no matter has mount_nfs options (-U,-2 etc.) or not. -- Sem. --------------------------------------------------------------- Sergey Matveychuk | Institute Of Aviation Motors | Moscow, Russia E-Mail: sem@ciam.ru | http://www.ciam.ru/~sem Tel: +7-095-362-93-43 | UIN: 3317990 --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 8:35:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D0215541 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id KAA13801 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:35:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199905211535.KAA13801@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Multihome support ? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:35:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Does the 3.x-STABLE support multihoming nicely ? (i.e. having two different network cards/interfaces connected to different networks/ISPs) How is the decision made by the kernel as to which interface to use for outgoing connections ? IIRC, in the old days people had to hack the system code to be able to have a multihomed host. Altimately, I am looking for a solution which would allow to have some kind of "backup" network connection that can work automatically when one of the networks is down, or connectivity to some particular outside network is bad. Any pointers and advices are appreciated. I appologize if this should've been sent to a different list (like questions) in that case, you can respond directly to me. Thanks, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 8:54: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (unknown [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83B9159F7 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dispatch@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from dispatch@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17543; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dispatch) From: Dispatcher Message-Id: <199905211553.LAA17543@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Multihome support ? In-Reply-To: <199905211535.KAA13801@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> from Igor Roshchin at "May 21, 1999 10:35:47 am" To: igor@physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Igor, Multihoming has worked just fine since the 2.2 days (which is as far back as I've used FreeBSD, so I can't talk about anything earlier. ;) I have used both OSPF and BGP for automatic fallback. Other people use rip. You exact choice depends on your situation. If you have two 56k modems, you probably don't want a full BGP feel down each. ;) If you have a T1+ down each link, and if your upstream can support it, and if you have enough memory, I'd recommend BGP. Other people will tell you that BGP sucks, however, so YMMV. If you just want rip, you can use the built-in routed. If you want something more sophisticated, use gated from ports. And yes, this is probably more appropriate for -questions. But we're not *that* uptight over here. ==ml > > Hello! > > Does the 3.x-STABLE support multihoming nicely ? > (i.e. having two different network cards/interfaces connected to different > networks/ISPs) > How is the decision made by the kernel as to which interface > to use for outgoing connections ? > > IIRC, in the old days people had to hack the system code to be able > to have a multihomed host. > > Altimately, I am looking for a solution which would allow to have > some kind of "backup" network connection that can work automatically > when one of the networks is down, or connectivity to some particular > outside network is bad. > > Any pointers and advices are appreciated. > > I appologize if this should've been sent to a different list (like questions) > in that case, you can respond directly to me. > > Thanks, > > Igor > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 9:56:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF3A14DD3 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14613 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990521115414.00b69620@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:54:23 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: FreeBSD and K6-2's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've had great luck running 3.1-RELEASE through 3.2-RELEASE. It has been blazingly fast (K6-2 300 about as fast compiling as a Pentium II 350). I am also running XFree86 3.3.3.1 with a Millenium G200 16MB SG video card and all is working great. I use the Epox 51MVP3E-M ATX motherboard and have only good things to say about it. I haven't had a crash yet (except when I tried to use the 686 CPU instead of 586 in the kernel config :). ). Say, is there a reason that the AMD chip isn't considered a 686?? Does it not contain certain instructions that are required for 686 compliance?? Thanks, Ben Gavin At 10:01 PM 5/20/99 -0700, you wrote: > > >I'm thinking of upgrading my old P133 FreeBSD machine with a new >Motherboard, RAM and an AMD K6-2 350. They're less than 60 bucks now. :) >I'm thinking about 64 megs of RAM minimum, maybe more depending on my >budget. I have a Win95 machine running on an ASUS P5A motherboard which >seems really nice. Thinking of getting another just the same, or maybe an >ASUS P5A-B which is pretty much the same but it's baby AT size. I plan to >use the machine as a X Workstation, HTTP-FTP-TELNET server, NATD Gateway, >and SAMBA server. I really don't want to spend more than 300 bucks for >Motherboard, CPU, RAM, and Case (if neccessary). > >My questions are: > >1.) Does FreeBSD and AMD K6-2 350 make a good combination as far as >performance, speed, and stability goes? > >2.) Other than ASUS motherboards, what would be another good choice for a >low cost FreeBSD Workstation/Server? > >Thanks in advance, > >Joey > > >================================================================ >Joey Bear Garcia >Downey, CA >bear@pacificnet.net >================================================================ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 10:30:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E865014E67 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA25351; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990521132929.02264e30@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:29:29 -0400 To: igor@physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Multihome support ? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905211553.LAA17543@blackhelicopters.org> References: <199905211535.KAA13801@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:53 AM 5/21/99 -0400, Dispatcher wrote: > >If you just want rip, you can use the built-in routed. If you want >something more sophisticated, use gated from ports. > >And yes, this is probably more appropriate for -questions. But we're >not *that* uptight over here. I would reccomend gated, but in addtion, you can also look at zebra and mrt which are also in the ports section. Zebra looks rather promising for the future. But for today, gated. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 15: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A871153F8 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-125.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.125]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA04969; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:03:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (nospam.hiwaay.net [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA48061; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:56:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199905210056.TAA48061@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Alberto de Poo Bas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ISO image for 3.2-RELEASE? In-reply-to: Message from Alberto de Poo Bas of "Thu, 20 May 1999 18:20:39 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:56:12 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alberto de Poo Bas writes: > = > Can someone point me to some information on how to create a bootable CD= > (iso image) like this 3.2-release.iso, I know have to use mkisofs or > mkhybrid, but be a good idea to look at more information on how to use > this commands. Also to create a bootable CD complete system (so I don't= > need a hard disk, or use this to have dumped filesystems to restore the= m). /usr/share/examples/worm/makecdfs.sh is a script which does what you ask.= Suggest you use cdrecord to actually burn the CDR rather than = wormcontrol as shown in burncd.sh > Is there a way to create a 2.88 floppy image (like the one to boot 3.x > installation procedures) but without having a 2.88 floppy? This to make= a > boot image for some CDs with more information than the 1.44 ones? % man 4 vn % man 8 vnconfig Also study the "cd /usr/src/release; make release" stuff as it uses vn = to build the images in a file mounted as a vnode. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 18: 9: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg (imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg [137.132.14.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC7614CA6; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:08:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccegongw@nus.edu.sg) Received: by imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sat, 22 May 1999 09:09:37 +0800 Message-ID: <762388C091FAD01180FF00A024621378E8EDD1@exs01.ex.nus.edu.sg> From: Gong Wei To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" , "'current@freebsd.org'" Subject: commercial products for computer telephony development (*BSD and/ or Linux) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:09:35 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEA3EF.C20D6DA6" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA3EF.C20D6DA6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi all, Is there any commercial products for computer telephony development on *BSD and/or Linux exists today? Basically we are looking for quite standard features like interactive voice response, voice messaging, text to speech, fax, notification systems, etc. I am in fact trying one product from Dialogic ( http://www.dialogic.com) but unfortunately it doesn't support *BSD/Linux :-( Any hints/pointer of info would be much appreciated! ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA3EF.C20D6DA6 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Gong Wei.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Gong Wei.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Wei;Gong;;; FN:Gong Wei ORG:National University of Singapore; TITLE:Analyst Programmer TEL;WORK;VOICE:+65 8746421 TEL;PAGER;VOICE:+65 94963742 TEL;WORK;FAX:+65 7780198 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;Computer Centre=0D=0ANational University of Singapore=0D=0A2 Engineering D= rive 4;Singapore;;117584;Singapore LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Computer Centre=0D=0ANational University of Singapore=0D=0A2 Engineering Dri= ve 4=0D=0ASingapore, 117584=0D=0ASingapore EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:ccegongw@nus.edu.sg REV:19990518T103531Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA3EF.C20D6DA6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 18:38: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (unknown [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C931150DF for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47C3F2EE1A; Fri, 21 May 1999 18:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 4187 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009501bea2a9$bb12d960$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Greg Quinlan Subject: RE: I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM - Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Greg Well I for one am having almost the exact same problem. At first I though= t it was cheap memory, then when it happend again, I had to deeply paddle up hi= ll with my new manager who swears SUNs rule, what are we doing with FreeBSD... I have now turned on the kernel debugger (incorrectly the 1st time) so if = it dumps again I should have a copy ( I have never used it before) The dumps a= re happening more regularly now, but it seems to be happening after abt 6-8 ho= urs of use to me depending on load. I know I would apprecciate some help. I am using this system to test the n= ew Inktomi port of their Traffic Server software and I hate to have to back re= v to 3.1-stable some time from what my boss keeps calling 3.2 not so stable My System is=20 K6-III 400 384 Megs memory Adaptec 2940U2W card and 6 IBM LVD drives with = an Intel pro/100 Ethernet card. Nicole On 20-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Greg Quinlan wrote: > LAST TIME: >=20 > The problem which I had reported, exactly, with the precise kernel panic > message, did not get a response. That 's right not one! So many > want-to-experts out there who know all-to-little. However thanks to those > who gave some constructive assistance earlier, it was greatly appreciated= , > if to no avail. >=20 > I have again upgraded (3.2-R) and still the machine panics. All indicatio= ns > (given the load the machine is under and the duration before panics.... > 2-4days) show that if it were simply a hardware fault then it would occur= r > almost immediately. >=20 > I would be the first to admit that I do not know FreeBSD all that well...= I > have never claimed to know-it-all, but I do see that I have a genuine > problem with FreeBSD and my specific hardware configuration. I have given > honest feedback, since I had the opinon that this was what the forum was = all > about. I will always admit to flaws in my knowledge or mistakes, since I= am > new to this OS. What seems strange to me and possibly most other people i= s > that the original purpose of this mailling list was to further the > stability, distribution, use, and acceptance of FreeBSD. The latest trail= of > e-mails was unneccessary and I agree a waste of everyone's time. >=20 > I appreciate from time to time a good 'flame' (if it comes from those who > know.) >=20 > What I dislike from the countless few, who instead of putting forward a > valid arguement, instead just want to be one of the crowd, using less the= n > moronic suggestions. All this does is show how little those few want to > contribute. >=20 > and finally .... if you have read down thus far then you are probably > interested in the staying on the mailling list for the benefits most peop= le > get, some of the time. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Greg >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan K. Hubbard > To: Greg Quinlan > Cc: Mike Smith ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: 19 May 1999 23:46 > Subject: Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot >=20 >=20 >>Please end this thread now. I don't see that it's going in any useful >>directions at this point and it's only wasting the time of folks like >>myself to have to read it. >> >>Thank you. >> >>- Jordan >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 20: 5:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047631533E; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA69597; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199905220304.UAA69597@apollo.backplane.com> To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: dg@root.com, Cliff Skolnick , Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! References: <199905121459.HAA27314@cwsys.cwsent.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Would plan B risk corruption of any data? Could itself be the likely :cause of any potential panics? : :Assuming plan B has no major risks, this might be a temporary :workaround until we can wrap our minds around this one. It's just a :rework of Luoqi's patch, just in case we want to try plan B again. : :--- kern_lock.c.orig Tue May 11 08:34:52 1999 :+++ kern_lock.c Wed May 12 05:38:52 1999 :@@ -215,7 +215,9 @@ : * lock itself ). : */ : if (lkp->lk_lockholder != pid) { :- if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { :+ if ((p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) || :+ ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && :+ (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { : error = acquire( : lkp, : extflags, : :If this workaround doesn't work, then setting error = 0 and allowing :the code to fall through to the subsequent sharelock may be our only :choice for now. : :The other point I wish to make for all on this list is that Matt's :patch fixes a read()/mmap() deadlock. It doesn't fix a write()/mmap() :deadlock. : : :Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 :Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 It's an interesting workaround, but a bit too complex. That is, the locking is becoming a too complex. We are going to screw ourselves if we keep patching it. I don't even like *my* patch to fix read/mmap deadlocks. I see a relatively simple solution. Complex to implement, but simple in concept. Actually two potential solutions. Solution #1: A combination uio locking call. uiolock(vnode, vnodelocktype, uio, uiolocktype) The routine would lock *ALL* vnodes associated with the uio plus the passed vnode. If the passed vnode is also present in the uio range then the most stringent lock type will be used for that vnode. Solution #2: Integrate locks in the uio operation. The uio is broken up into segments containing unique vnodes. So, for example, a uio referencing a memory range that spans more then one mmap() would be broken up. The source/destination vnode is relocked with the underlying uio vnode for each segment. The locking order is sorted by pointer address. Each vnode is given a second 'overall' lock to guarentee read/write atomicy. We will design this second lock to eventually allow us to implement (offset,size) ranges to allow concurrent reads/write of non-overlapping areas. I like solution #2. Solution #1 may be too messy. The uio is the interface between the VM system and the VFS system, so it makes sense to integrate the locking within it. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 21:46:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AD014D39 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA78286 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990521214610.A78275@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:46:10 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: lpt0: message shows up twice Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <87vhdob897.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:38:51AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Deleting the following line from sys/i386/conf/files.i386 and > > re-running config seems to solve the problem: > > > > i386/isa/lpt.c optional lpt device-driver > > Actually, TRT is to change the third word on that line to 'olpt'. > Fixed as of right now (files.i386 rev. 1.220.2.5). Grrr. I really don't know what happened, but when doing this change many of the files didn't get committed right even though ``cvs ci'' seemed to work right. :-( -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 21:55: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.nwnexus.com (smtp04.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DFB14C18; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip46.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.46]) by smtp04.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08082; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17306; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:04:15 -0700 From: "William R. Somsky" To: Mike Smith Cc: Benjamin Greenwald , The Hermit Hacker , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Message-ID: <19990521190415.A7247@gramarye.halcyon.com> References: <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> <199905181840.LAA04698@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905181840.LAA04698@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 11:40:49AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 11:40:49AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > Just installed 3.2-RELEASE from scratch, have only had time so far to > > > install a new kernel onto her, and just installed netscape from ports: > > > > > > atelier# /usr/local/netscape-4.51/netscape > > > Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. > > > > The netscape binary is a.out format. You need to install the FreeBSD a.out > > compat libraries and dynamic linker/loader as well as the a.out versions of > > the X libraries. > > There's a bug in the compat22 distball that causes this. We'll update > it sometime today (look for new timestamps on the compat22 stuff); the > fixed version will be on the CDROMs as well. As of yesterday (99/05/20), there still seems to be a problem when doing a "buildworld/installworld" w/ COMPAT22=YES however... I sucked down the compat22 distball, and it worked, but a build w/ COMPAT22=YES didn't. The only difference seems to be the presence of /usr/lib/exec/ld.so. All the other aout compatibility libraries/files seem to be there, but ld.so is missing... ________________________________________________________________________ William R. Somsky wrsomsky@halcyon.com Physicist, Baritone, Guitarist http://www.halcyon.com/wrsomsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 22: 1:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E44151D2 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:01:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA78353; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:01:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990521220144.C78275@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:01:44 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <009501bea2a9$bb12d960$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <009501bea2a9$bb12d960$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk>; from Greg Quinlan on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:15:48AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The problem which I had reported, exactly, with the precise kernel panic > message, did not get a response. That 's right not one! So many Ok, lets handle this in a way that should get you some helpful responce. But first you need to be helpful. You need to compile a new kernel. See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ if you do not know how to do that. At the point in your kernel building where you would normally run ``config KERNEL_NAME'', do ``config -rg KERNEL_NAME'' instead. Also note the extra step below when installing: cp GENERIC FOO vi FOO (make any changes and exit) config -r -g FOO cd ../../compile/FOO make depend make cp -p kernel kernel.debug strip -r kernel make install Before you reboot to use the new kernel, edit /etc/rc.conf and add a line simular to: dumpdev="/dev/wd0s2b" Then the next time you have a panic, the information necessary to debug the problem wil be available. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 21 22:10:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4DC151D2 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA78420; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990521221024.D78275@nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:10:24 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "William R. Somsky" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Couldn't open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000701bea153$61030d20$160e6f12@lcs.mit.edu> <199905181840.LAA04698@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990521190415.A7247@gramarye.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990521190415.A7247@gramarye.halcyon.com>; from William R. Somsky on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 07:04:15PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As of yesterday (99/05/20), there still seems to be a problem when doing > a "buildworld/installworld" w/ COMPAT22=YES however... > > I sucked down the compat22 distball, and it worked, but a build w/ > COMPAT22=YES didn't. Hun? "distballs" sounds like you are doing a installation via ``sysinstall'', not a ``make world''. > The only difference seems to be the presence > of /usr/lib/exec/ld.so. All the other aout compatibility libraries/files > seem to be there, but ld.so is missing... You are saying /usr/libexec/ld.so is there, but then you say it isn't.. huh? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 0:29:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.tomail.com.tw (dns.tomail.com.tw [203.70.70.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47C3114CAA for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 00:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silver@tomail.com.tw) Received: (qmail 1343 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 07:29:38 -0000 Received: from ms2.tomail.com.tw (HELO tomail.com.tw) (203.70.70.16) by dns.tomail.com.tw with SMTP; 22 May 1999 07:29:38 -0000 Message-ID: <37465C0D.4346BC8@tomail.com.tw> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:26:05 +0800 From: Silver CHEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: [Help] My brand new 3.1R freezes or reboot under heavy loading... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir: I have a brand new PC server with the following hardware: * PII 350 x 1, 256 MB SDRAM, 100MHz clock rate * Gigabyte dual CPU motherboard w/ integrated 2940U2W SCSI * Intel 82559 ethernet card * 2*4.3GB SEAGATE LVD HDs, attached on the same channel * FreeBSD 3.1R w/ GENERIC kernel Well, it SHOULD be a real server, but now it IS a 'toy' server.... Each time I try to run some heavy loaded jobs, like sending 500000+ emails out, the system freezes, or automatically reboot, with no resonable reason. However, I've got this message twice: May 22 02:05:00 dns /kernel: vm_page_free: freeing wired page (...then the normal boot message) I've changed SDRAM yesterday, but it freezes again. The only thing I DO make sure is the system load/resource usage is not very high at that moment, but the disk I/O might be high then. (Say, the swap usage is 0, the system load is 3-, and the process # is 200-.) I set the maxusers = 128, is it a resonable level? Someone said that I'd better upgrade to 3.2R, someone said this is an very old bug in 2.X...... I used 2.2.7 for over one year on a very old IDE/PC, it NEVER freezes/ crash, now I'm very upset about my new high-end 'toy' server. :( I like FreeBSD, but if I can't solve this problem, I must give up. I don't want to 'mean' anything that is not related to this problem, so please help me out on my trouble, but not just 'correct' my statement. Thanks a lot. I'll try these two steps soon: 1. upgrade to 3.2R 2. slow down my motherboard from 100MHz to 66MHz 3. remove FreeBSD, switch to other UN*X OS.( that's too bad :( ) -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Shan-Ta CHEN E-Mail : sansil@pchome.com.tw | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 0:38:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E7314C38; Sat, 22 May 1999 00:37:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id KAA18162; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:36:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:36:27 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) Message-ID: <19990522103627.B6482@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: David O'Brien , Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <009501bea2a9$bb12d960$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> <19990521220144.C78275@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990521220144.C78275@nuxi.com>; from David O'Brien on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:01:44PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:01:44PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > The problem which I had reported, exactly, with the precise kernel panic > > message, did not get a response. That 's right not one! So many > > Ok, lets handle this in a way that should get you some helpful responce. > But first you need to be helpful. > > You need to compile a new kernel. See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ > if you do not know how to do that. At the point in your kernel building > where you would normally run ``config KERNEL_NAME'', do ``config -rg > KERNEL_NAME'' instead. Also note the extra step below when installing: > > > cp GENERIC FOO > vi FOO (make any changes and exit) > config -r -g FOO > cd ../../compile/FOO > make depend > make > cp -p kernel kernel.debug > strip -r kernel strip -g kernel > make install > > Before you reboot to use the new kernel, edit /etc/rc.conf and add a line > simular to: > > dumpdev="/dev/wd0s2b" > > > Then the next time you have a panic, the information necessary to debug > the problem wil be available. > -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 1:23: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xkis.kis.ru (xkis.kis.ru [195.98.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882F61526B for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dv@dv.ru) Received: from localhost (dv@localhost) by xkis.kis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA16338; Sat, 22 May 1999 12:22:37 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:22:37 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Valdov X-Sender: dv@xkis.kis.ru To: Silver CHEN Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: [Help] My brand new 3.1R freezes or reboot under heavy loading... In-Reply-To: <37465C0D.4346BC8@tomail.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 May 1999, Silver CHEN wrote: > Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:26:05 +0800 > From: Silver CHEN > To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" > Subject: [Help] My brand new 3.1R freezes or reboot under heavy loading... > > Dear Sir: > > I have a brand new PC server with the following hardware: > > * PII 350 x 1, 256 MB SDRAM, 100MHz clock rate > * Gigabyte dual CPU motherboard w/ integrated 2940U2W SCSI > * Intel 82559 ethernet card > * 2*4.3GB SEAGATE LVD HDs, attached on the same channel > * FreeBSD 3.1R w/ GENERIC kernel > > Well, it SHOULD be a real server, but now it IS a 'toy' server.... > Each time I try to run some heavy loaded jobs, like sending 500000+ > emails out, the system freezes, or automatically reboot, with no > resonable reason. > > However, I've got this message twice: > > May 22 02:05:00 dns /kernel: vm_page_free: freeing wired page > (...then the normal boot message) > Upgrade to 3.2R will do help. Dmitry. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 3:39:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24B314E7F for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05331; Sat, 22 May 1999 06:39:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 06:39:32 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Debugging a stalled connection Message-ID: <19990522063932.A5273@infoteam.com> References: <19990520163439.B15580@infoteam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:57:13PM -0700 Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington X-Phone: 1 606 335 7233 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:57:13PM -0700, Tom wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 1999, Kenn Martin wrote: > > > I have a number of machines running 3.2-STABLE with no problem, except one, > > an "old" Pentium 200. It has an Intel PRO/100+ Server Adapter (fxp0), two > > IDE disks, and 1 IDE CDROM drive (dmesg below). This also was happening > > in later builds of 3.1-STABLE. > > > > Large transfers, such as an NFS-mount installworld or a ftp get of a file > > over approx 1MB, will stall regularly and indefinately. > > > > No other operation appears to be affected and I can start another ssh > > session with the "stalled" machine. > > > > How should I go about debugging this problem? > > "netstat -i" will give you interface error counts. > > "netstat" will the status of all network connections. > > Check everything between the stalled machine and the client. This > includes routers, switches, hubs, and cabling. Check error counters on > all intervening equipment. I've done all of this with no success. One fast ethernet switch between the 2, 3.2-STABLE systems. No errors reported anywhere, other than occasionally from NFS (server not responding) on the client "problem" machine. > Try switching MTU path discovery off. Misconfigured routers will break > MTU discovery. Turn off TCP extensions. Broken routers and clients will > not handle TCP extensions properly. Is this with "mtu 0" on the ifconfig command? Putting it in rc.conf doesn't seem to work. TCP extensions are off (the default). thanks, kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 4: 3:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from extra.gc.lviv.ua (unknown [195.5.17.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D8714E7F for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 04:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vadim@gc.lviv.ua) Received: from gate.gc.lviv.ua (gate.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.168.18]) by extra.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA73878 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:02:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gc.lviv.ua (intra.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.1.93]) by gate.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA35896 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:02:12 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37468DDB.6C296E49@gc.lviv.ua> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:58:35 +0300 From: Vadim Chekan Organization: Galitsky Kontrakty X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Error in /usr/src/etc/Makefile Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody! I've got a troubles when I tryed to upgrade from sourses my 2.2.5 box to 3.2-RELEASE in /usr/src/etc/Makefile:13 etc.${MACHINE_ARCH}/rc.${MACHINE_ARCH} \ But where is MACHINE_ARCH defined? Only place where I meneged to find it is /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk In /usr/src/etc/Makefile is only one ".include" .include Vadim Chekan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 4:17:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C61B14DEC for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 04:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id OAA62512; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:15:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:15:10 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Vadim Chekan Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Error in /usr/src/etc/Makefile Message-ID: <19990522141510.A60899@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Vadim Chekan , "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" References: <37468DDB.6C296E49@gc.lviv.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <37468DDB.6C296E49@gc.lviv.ua>; from Vadim Chekan on Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:58:35PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:58:35PM +0300, Vadim Chekan wrote: > Hello everybody! > > I've got a troubles when I tryed to upgrade from sourses my 2.2.5 box to > 3.2-RELEASE > in /usr/src/etc/Makefile:13 > etc.${MACHINE_ARCH}/rc.${MACHINE_ARCH} \ > Use ``make upgrade'' option. > But where is MACHINE_ARCH defined? > Only place where I meneged to find it is /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > In /usr/src/etc/Makefile is only one ".include" > .include > It's not defined in 2.2.5. You can find it in /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 5: 9:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2A214E15 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id PAA72291; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:01:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:01:13 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Vadim Chekan Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error in /usr/src/etc/Makefile Message-ID: <19990522150113.A69072@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Vadim Chekan , stable@freebsd.org References: <37468DDB.6C296E49@gc.lviv.ua> <19990522141510.A60899@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <374697A8.242D6D4D@gc.lviv.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <374697A8.242D6D4D@gc.lviv.ua>; from Vadim Chekan on Sat, May 22, 1999 at 02:40:24PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 02:40:24PM +0300, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:58:35PM +0300, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > Hello everybody! > > > > > > I've got a troubles when I tryed to upgrade from sourses my 2.2.5 box to > > > 3.2-RELEASE > > > in /usr/src/etc/Makefile:13 > > > etc.${MACHINE_ARCH}/rc.${MACHINE_ARCH} \ > > > > > Use ``make upgrade'' option. > > I use mergemaster version-1.24 :) > ``mergemaster'' is just a supplement for ``make world''. It's not supposed for 2.2.x -> 3.x jumps. In your case (2.2.5 -> 3.2), use ``make upgrade'' if you want to upgrade from sources. Another possibility would be the ``binary'' upgrade option of sysinstall. Advice: upgrade to 2.2.8-STABLE first, then ``make upgrade'' to 3.2-STABLE. > > > But where is MACHINE_ARCH defined? > > > Only place where I meneged to find it is /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > > In /usr/src/etc/Makefile is only one ".include" > > > .include > > > > > It's not defined in 2.2.5. You can find it in /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk. > > Ok, It's true. I think in this case /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk must be > included in /usr/src/etc/Makefile > Isn't it? > It is (from /usr/src/Makefile): # # Handle the user-driven targets, using the source relative mk files. # ${TGTS} : upgrade_checks @cd ${.CURDIR}; \ ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc0 -m ${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${.TARGET} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 5:12:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F131C14E15 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA90429 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:12:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19556 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:15:48 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199905221215.QAA19556@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: tarkhil@svib.ru Subject: Cannot make release on -STABLE X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:15:46 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! While running 3.0-STABLE, I was trying to make release, and it finished with ===> compat/compat22 [...] uudecode -p /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/libz.so.2.0.gz.uu | gunzip > libz.so.2. 0 make: don't know how to make ld.so.gz.uu. Stop *** Error code 2 What could be wrong? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ÁÂ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 5:15: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851C014E15; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id IAA19525; Sat, 22 May 1999 08:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma019518; Sat, 22 May 99 08:14:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 08:14:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) In-reply-to: <19990521220144.C78275@nuxi.com> To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: [ stuff about configuring a kernel with -g and setting dump deleted ] > > Then the next time you have a panic, the information necessary to debug > the problem wil be available. > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) Sorry for the (silly?) question, but what next? I've done all of this, and am still clueless as to how to access/analyze/whatever a crashdump when something happens. Right now I just drop into the debugger on panic/fault, with no idea what to do next. I usually just type "panic" and the machine seems to reboot. (I've read the ddb manpage, not even sure whether it's the right thing to read, as the "panic" command isn't documented there.) Is there a tutorial on how to analyze crashdumps? If not, would someone familiar with the process please share his/her knowledge? The next time something bad happens, I'd like to post with some meaningful information and avoid the "you haven't given us enough information" speeches. Thanks. SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 5:29:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from extra.gc.lviv.ua (unknown [195.5.17.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0363F14E15 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vadim@gc.lviv.ua) Received: from gate.gc.lviv.ua (gate.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.168.18]) by extra.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA74264 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:27:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gc.lviv.ua (intra.gc.lviv.ua [192.168.1.93]) by gate.gc.lviv.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA40476 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:27:44 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3746A1E7.23E43E44@gc.lviv.ua> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:24:07 +0300 From: Vadim Chekan Organization: Galitsky Kontrakty X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Error in /usr/src/etc/Makefile References: <37468DDB.6C296E49@gc.lviv.ua> <19990522141510.A60899@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> <374697A8.242D6D4D@gc.lviv.ua> <19990522150113.A69072@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 02:40:24PM +0300, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > > > > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:58:35PM +0300, Vadim Chekan wrote: > > > > Hello everybody! > > > > > > > > I've got a troubles when I tryed to upgrade from sourses my 2.2.5 box to > > > > 3.2-RELEASE > > > > in /usr/src/etc/Makefile:13 > > > > etc.${MACHINE_ARCH}/rc.${MACHINE_ARCH} \ > > > > > > > Use ``make upgrade'' option. > > > > I use mergemaster version-1.24 :) > > > ``mergemaster'' is just a supplement for ``make world''. > It's not supposed for 2.2.x -> 3.x jumps. Why? I think it's version-independed. It just help to compare and correct files in /etc I'd had to install new aout version of mtree but it's pretty simple Now I'm in the middle of the way :) > > In your case (2.2.5 -> 3.2), use ``make upgrade'' if you want to upgrade > from sources. Another possibility would be the ``binary'' upgrade option > of sysinstall. I'm doing remote upgrade on box in other city. I know, I can do it from binary so. But I prefer sources. > > Advice: upgrade to 2.2.8-STABLE first, then ``make upgrade'' to 3.2-STABLE. I did this on another macine, but if I can work around my problems, it's too long way > > > > > But where is MACHINE_ARCH defined? > > > > Only place where I meneged to find it is /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk > > > > In /usr/src/etc/Makefile is only one ".include" > > > > .include > > > > > > > It's not defined in 2.2.5. You can find it in /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk. > > > > Ok, It's true. I think in this case /usr/src/share/mk/sys.mk must be > > included in /usr/src/etc/Makefile > > Isn't it? > > > It is (from /usr/src/Makefile): > # > # Handle the user-driven targets, using the source relative mk files. > # > ${TGTS} : upgrade_checks > @cd ${.CURDIR}; \ > ${MAKE} -f Makefile.inc0 -m ${.CURDIR}/share/mk ${.TARGET} I haven't time to check all this more carefully, but MACHINE_ARCH was undefined, and mergemaster fail to install ... etc./rc ... (must be etc.i386) Vadim Chekan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 6:34:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BA814D3D for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 06:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id QAA90263; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:32:39 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:32:38 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cannot make release on -STABLE Message-ID: <19990522163238.B85793@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Povolotsky , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199905221215.QAA19556@shuttle.svib.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905221215.QAA19556@shuttle.svib.ru>; from Alex Povolotsky on Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:15:46PM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:15:46PM +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > While running 3.0-STABLE, I was trying to make release, and it finished with > You didn't specify that you were trying to make 4.0-CURRENT release. > ===> compat/compat22 > [...] > uudecode -p /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/libz.so.2.0.gz.uu | gunzip > libz.so.2. > 0 > make: don't know how to make ld.so.gz.uu. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > > What could be wrong? > Yesterday's commit... I have already notified David (obrien@freebsd.org) about it. Workaround: # cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22 # cp ../compat21/ld.so.gz.uu . Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 9:32: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374F714F34 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 09:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (d60-077.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.77]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA83969; Sat, 22 May 1999 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA60828; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:32:01 GMT (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:32:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Seth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot) Message-ID: <19990522093201.F60647@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990521220144.C78275@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Seth on Sat, May 22, 1999 at 08:14:39AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sorry for the (silly?) question, but what next? I've done all of this, > and am still clueless as to how to access/analyze/whatever a crashdump If you are getting them correctly, they will be in /var/crash/ > Is there a tutorial on how to analyze crashdumps? If not, would someone > familiar with the process please share his/her knowledge? The next There is a section to get you going in the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 12: 9:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EEB314FAC for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 12:09:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lH9W-0002kB-00; Sat, 22 May 1999 12:09:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Silver CHEN Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: [Help] My brand new 3.1R freezes or reboot under heavy loading... In-Reply-To: <37465C0D.4346BC8@tomail.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 22 May 1999, Silver CHEN wrote: > Dear Sir: > > I have a brand new PC server with the following hardware: > > * PII 350 x 1, 256 MB SDRAM, 100MHz clock rate Servers should have ECC memory. > * Gigabyte dual CPU motherboard w/ integrated 2940U2W SCSI > * Intel 82559 ethernet card > * 2*4.3GB SEAGATE LVD HDs, attached on the same channel > * FreeBSD 3.1R w/ GENERIC kernel Upgrade to 3.0-stable (or 3.2-RELEASE). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 15: 1:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 582F814D7B for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lJoA-00045H-00; Sat, 22 May 1999 14:59:55 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:59:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Nicole Harrington Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM - Finally (Re: Memory leaks & kernel panic/reboot & ahc reboot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 21 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > Hi Greg > Well I for one am having almost the exact same problem. At first I thought it > was cheap memory, then when it happend again, I had to deeply paddle up hill > with my new manager who swears SUNs rule, what are we doing with FreeBSD... Make sure you use ECC memory, which is what Sun equipment uses, then you won't have to guess on whether your memory is good or not. > I have now turned on the kernel debugger (incorrectly the 1st time) so if it > dumps again I should have a copy ( I have never used it before) The dumps are > happening more regularly now, but it seems to be happening after abt 6-8 hours > of use to me depending on load. > > I know I would apprecciate some help. I am using this system to test the new > Inktomi port of their Traffic Server software and I hate to have to back rev to > 3.1-stable some time from what my boss keeps calling 3.2 not so stable > > My System is > K6-III 400 384 Megs memory Adaptec 2940U2W card and 6 IBM LVD drives with an > Intel pro/100 Ethernet card. > > > Nicole Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 16:36:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37514D43 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 16:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA087896197; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:36:37 -0400 Subject: KDE port question To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 701 Message-Id: <19990522233640.5F37514D43@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I give up, after more than 2 months of ocasianal attempts to build the gnome port. I will comprimise my principles and try kde, maybe it will at least compile :-( So I find 2 ports, kde and kde1, which one should I try to build? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 22 18:22:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from biwasv01.biwa.ne.jp (biwasv01.biwa.ne.jp [210.161.160.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF45D14E85 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sakai-m@mx.biwa.ne.jp) Received: from DNSserver.biwa.ne.jp (ykw21.biwa.ne.jp [210.250.133.21]) by biwasv01.biwa.ne.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with SMTP id KAA17740 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 10:19:45 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:17:04 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPHIwZhsoQiAbJEI0cE06GyhCIA==?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <3747571037A.3826SAKAI-M@biwasv01.biwa.ne.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG help To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 11:45:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C661501D for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (chap-ppp0 [10.50.1.30]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05499 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:45:26 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Where is kgdb? Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:37:33 +0100 Message-ID: <01bea54b$522f14a0$0101a8c0@greg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Very simple question: Where can I find kgdb? Thanks Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 11:48:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.fremont.ca.us (d60-076.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE261501D for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us) Received: (from mharo@localhost) by area51.fremont.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA04341; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:47:59 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Greg Quinlan Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Where is kgdb? Message-ID: <19990523114759.A4314@area51.fremont.ca.us> References: <01bea54b$522f14a0$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01bea54b$522f14a0$0101a8c0@greg>; from Greg Quinlan on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 07:37:33PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 07:37:33PM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > Very simple question: > > Where can I find kgdb? Use gdb -k Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 11:49: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.fremont.ca.us (d60-076.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC6315211 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us) Received: (from mharo@localhost) by area51.fremont.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA04357; Sun, 23 May 1999 11:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:49:01 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: KDE port question Message-ID: <19990523114901.B4314@area51.fremont.ca.us> References: <19990522233640.5F37514D43@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990522233640.5F37514D43@hub.freebsd.org>; from Stan Brown on Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:36:36PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:36:36PM -0400, Stan Brown wrote: > > So I find 2 ports, kde and kde1, which one should I try to build? I would install kde11. The kde port is for version 1.0 of kde, which I don't think exists anymore. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 14: 3:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B9714C8A; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:03:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-42.cybcon.com [205.147.75.43]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA04670; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "FreeBSD Stable" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:03:39 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea55f$bb10d030$2b4b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG UNAME output: Freebsd 3.2-STABLE /etc/rc.conf has this in it for the mouse: moused_enable="YES" moused_port="/dev/psm0" moused_type="auto" DMESG output about psm0 rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time screensaver mousedmoused: unable to open /dev/psm0: Device not configured ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What the hell is that !!! more DMESG: psm0 not found but in /dev I do have psm0 crw------- 1 wheel 21, 1 May 23 03:35 psm0 <<<<------------------ This is too weird. Any ideas? William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 14:15: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508C14C97; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01339; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:14:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:14:43 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: William Woods Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Message-ID: <19990523171443.A1269@infoteam.com> References: <000001bea55f$bb10d030$2b4b93cd@william> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000001bea55f$bb10d030$2b4b93cd@william>; from William Woods on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:03:39PM -0700 Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington X-Phone: 1 606 335 7233 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:03:39PM -0700, William Woods wrote: > UNAME output: Freebsd 3.2-STABLE > > /etc/rc.conf has this in it for the mouse: > > moused_enable="YES" > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > moused_type="auto" > > DMESG output about psm0 > > rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time screensaver mousedmoused: unable to > open > /dev/psm0: Device not configured ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > What the hell is that !!! > > more DMESG: > > psm0 not found > > > but in /dev I do have psm0 > > crw------- 1 wheel 21, 1 May 23 03:35 psm0 <<<<------------------ Is the device actually enumerated at boot? demsg | grep psm If not, is it enabled in the BIOS/CMOS? Is it in your kernel config? kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 14:26:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD39914DE9; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-42.cybcon.com [205.147.75.43]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA05938; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Kenn Martin" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:26:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bea562$dcbacbc0$2b4b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <19990523171443.A1269@infoteam.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dmesg | grep psm* psm0 not found ppc0 :Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATABLE mode That is the output of a dmesg | grep psm* As for enabling it in the bios....God I wish I could check...It is a toshiba satellite and I have no clue how to get into the bios....but....it worked on 2.2.8, 3.0 and 3.1...go figure THAT.... Ideas...... William > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kenn Martin > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:15 PM > To: William Woods > Cc: FreeBSD Stable; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. > > > On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 02:03:39PM -0700, William Woods wrote: > > UNAME output: Freebsd 3.2-STABLE > > > > /etc/rc.conf has this in it for the mouse: > > > > moused_enable="YES" > > moused_port="/dev/psm0" > > moused_type="auto" > > > > DMESG output about psm0 > > > > rc.i386 configuring syscons: blank_time screensaver > mousedmoused: unable to > > open > > /dev/psm0: Device not configured ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > What the hell is that !!! > > > > more DMESG: > > > > psm0 not found > > > > > > but in /dev I do have psm0 > > > > crw------- 1 wheel 21, 1 May 23 03:35 psm0 > <<<<------------------ > > Is the device actually enumerated at boot? > demsg | grep psm > > If not, is it enabled in the BIOS/CMOS? Is it in your kernel config? > > kenn > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 14:35:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8591714DE9; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-42.cybcon.com [205.147.75.43]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA06416; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Kim Culhan" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:35:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea564$3023fc90$2b4b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG BUT...I DO have that in the kernel....... device psm0 at isa? tty 1rq 12 THAT is in my kernel already!! Thats why this is so weird........ William > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Culhan [mailto:kimc@kim.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:32 PM > To: William Woods > Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. > > > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > > > /dev/psm0: Device not configured ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > What the hell is that !!! > > When you see the message 'Device not configured' it means you don't > have the this configured in the kernel. > > You need in your kernel config file: > > device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 > > Now remake the kernel, install and reboot. > > -kim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 14:57:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.2win.com (ns1.2win.com [206.40.35.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7267B14DCB for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alee@2win.com) Received: from ns1.2win.com (ns1.2win.com [206.40.35.1]) by ns1.2win.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25986 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alee@2win.com) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:57:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Lee To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: make buildworld fail - 3.0 STABLE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having problem in making buildworld from 3.0 STABLE source. I got the following error message: : cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr /src/usr.bin/make/arch.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/make -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr /src/usr.bin/make/buf.c stdin/usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c: In function `Buf_OvAddByte': /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:101: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c: In function `Buf_AddBytes': /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested /usr/src/usr.bin/make/buf.c:132: conversion to non-scalar type requested *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Anyone knows what I am missing here? Thanks for your help! Alex Lee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 15: 1:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E3714F67; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-20.cybcon.com [205.147.75.21]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA07501; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Kim Culhan" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:40 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bea567$d6253610$154b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OKOK......I see what you are pointing to... I mis-typed, I am writing this on a different system than FreeBSD is on. If you would like I can send you a copy of dmesg and my kernel config..... William > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Culhan [mailto:kimc@kim.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:41 PM > To: William Woods > Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. > > > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > > > device psm0 at isa? tty 1rq 12 > > You do have irq and not 1rq right ? > > -kc > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 15: 2: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F6914F6F; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-20.cybcon.com [205.147.75.21]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA07498; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Bart Smit" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" , "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:38 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea567$d52fb280$154b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OKOK......I see what you are pointing to... I mis-typed, I am writing this on a different system than FreeBSD is on. If you would like I can send you a copy of dmesg and my kernel config..... William > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Smit [mailto:bit@signature.nl] > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:46 PM > To: William Woods > Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > > > device psm0 at isa? tty 1rq 12 > > look again. hard. is this what's in your kernel config file and did you > compile a kernel with it? didn't you get errors on that? > > --Bart > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 15: 2: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73F315099; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-20.cybcon.com [205.147.75.21]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA07505; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Bart Smit" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" , "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bea567$d6d80b50$154b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, dmesg | grep psm0 psm0 not found William > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Smit [mailto:bit@signature.nl] > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 2:44 PM > To: William Woods > Subject: RE: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. > > > > > On Sun, 23 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > > > dmesg | grep psm* > > You added an asterisk there. That's wrong. The shell will glob it into > filenames. You only want the string 'psm'. > > dmesg | grep psm > > will search the boot messages. > > --Bart > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 16: 7:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD821539B for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:07:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA00793; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:07:23 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Greg Quinlan Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Where is kgdb? Message-ID: <19990523160723.A705@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <01bea54b$522f14a0$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <01bea54b$522f14a0$0101a8c0@greg>; from Greg Quinlan on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 07:37:33PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 07:37:33PM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > Where can I find kgdb? AFAIK, it's "gdb -k". You can, of course, make an alias if you'd like. -- Matthew Hunt * UNIX is a lever for the http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * intellect. -J.R. Mashey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 19:47: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.ukdw.ac.id (ns1.ukdw.ac.id [202.155.16.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3219D151AE for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hendra@ns1.ukdw.ac.id) Received: from localhost (hendra@localhost) by ns1.ukdw.ac.id (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25794 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:44:42 +0700 (JAVT) (envelope-from hendra@ns1.ukdw.ac.id) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:44:42 +0700 (JAVT) From: Hendra Sentono To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: is this related to error of adaptec scsi drivers on 3.1-R? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since I upgrade my sistem from 2.2.7-R to 3.1-R via sysinstall -- it is a Pentium 120MHz, 64MB RAM, with Adaptec aic7850 on board, de0 network card onboard, an IDE HDD (Quantum 6.4GB, and a NE2000 compatible/ed0 NIC -- my logfile keep giving me this message: /kernel: ahc0: Data Parity Error Detected during address or write data phase AFAIK it didn't happened before with 2.2.7-R. So far I don't find any strange behaviour of the machine except a system hang (can't telnet to the box but ping got replies) today. But a system boot solved the problem. Any explanations about this? Should I cvsup and doing make world to make it a 3.2-R or 3.2-STABLE?? TIA.. part of dmesg : FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 24 13:07:12 JAVT 1999 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/STUDENTSUKDW Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 120273503 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (120.27-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62054400 (60600K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02bd000. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x11 on pci0.0.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 5 on pci0.1.0 ahc0: Using left over BIOS settings ahc0: aic7850 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.2.0 de0: rev 0x24 int a irq 5 on pci0.3.0 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:21:5b:46 wdc0: rev 0x02 int a irq 14 on pci0.4.0 ------------------------------------------- Hendra Sentono Internetworking maintenance Duta Wacana Christian University Yogyakarta, Indonesia http://www.ukdw.ac.id To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 23 19:59: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B2DB151AE for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lkvS-0002sx-00; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:57:15 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Hendra Sentono Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is this related to error of adaptec scsi drivers on 3.1-R? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Hendra Sentono wrote: > Since I upgrade my sistem from 2.2.7-R to 3.1-R via sysinstall -- it is a > Pentium 120MHz, 64MB RAM, with Adaptec aic7850 on board, de0 network card > onboard, an IDE HDD (Quantum 6.4GB, and a NE2000 compatible/ed0 NIC -- my > logfile keep giving me this message: > > /kernel: ahc0: Data Parity Error Detected during address or write data > phase It means that data is being corrupted somewhere between the controller and your scsi device(s). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 0:20: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dbft.daimlerbenz.com (venus.daimlerbenz.com [53.122.79.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AE5C14C98 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ritwik@dbrci.blr.daimlerbenz.com) Received: by dbft.daimlerbenz.com; id JAA06004; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:20:26 +0200 Received: from mail.dbrci.blr.daimlerbenz.com(53.248.60.16) by fdedcft1.dbft.daimlerbenz.com via smap (V4.2) id xma005962; Mon, 24 May 99 09:19:45 +0200 Received: from hamsadhwani.dbrci.blr.daimlerbenz.com [53.248.60.17] by soham.dbrci.blr.DaimlerBenz.COM with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 10loyG-000097-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:24 +0530 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:45:27 +0530 (IST) From: Ritwik Bhattacharya To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: "make world" failed for 2.2.8-RELEASE sources Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I downloaded sources for 2.2.8-RELEASE from ftp.freebsd.org, and just tried doing a "make world", like so : ***** $ script /var/tmp/mw.out $ make world $ exit $ tail -30 /var/tmp/mw.out cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/src/usr.bin/global/gtags/../../../contrib/global/lib -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -o gtags gtags.o /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/global/gtags/../lib/libglobalutil.a gzip -c /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gtags/gtags.1 > gtags.1.gz ===> usr.bin/global/gctags cc -nostdinc -O -I/usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/../../../contrib/global/lib -I/usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/../../../contrib/global/gctags -DGLOBAL -DYACC -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -c /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/C.c /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/C.c: In function `c_entries': /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/C.c:280: `rflag' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/C.c:280: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.bin/global/gctags/C.c:280: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. # exit # exit Script done on Sun May 23 16:43:49 1999 ***** Can anybody help me ? Should I get a new version of gcc ? I'm using 2.7.2.1. tia, for any help. Ritwik The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. -- George Bernard Shaw ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daimler Benz Research Center India 302 A Somerset Apartments 137, Infantry Road 18 MG Road Bangalore 560 001 Bangalore 560 001 India India Tel : +91 80 286 1722 Fax : +91 80 286 1723 Mail : ritwik@dbrci.blr.daimlerbenz.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 0:56:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B29614CB9 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:56:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:i93CpSSwsCsQ23NHBqx1P3OpoOM/Kkxv@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id QAA02559; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:56:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id RAA07911; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:00:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905240800.RAA07911@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "William Woods" Cc: stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 May 1999 15:01:41 MST." <000201bea567$d6d80b50$154b93cd@william> References: <000201bea567$d6d80b50$154b93cd@william> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:00:20 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >OK, dmesg | grep psm0 > >psm0 not found > >William We need much more information in order to diagnose your problem. When starting your system, please hit return while the message "Booting kernel in X seconds..." is being shown, then you will drop into the loader prompt. Type boot -v The kernel will print lot more boot messages this time. After the system is completely up and running. Login and send us the output from the `dmesg' command. In another messages, you said your machine is Toshiba laptop and the pointing device (is it a built-in stick or something?) worked on FreeBSD 2.2.X and 3.1. The PS/2 mouse driver has changed little since 2.2.6 and EXACTLY the same in 3.1 and 3.2. Kazu yokota@FreeBSD.ORG. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 1:30:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547D314BFE for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA90514; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:31:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:31:00 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: William Woods , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. In-Reply-To: <199905240800.RAA07911@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > >OK, dmesg | grep psm0 > > > >psm0 not found > > > >William > > We need much more information in order to diagnose your problem. > > When starting your system, please hit return while the message > > "Booting kernel in X seconds..." I thought return started the boot immediately. I use space... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 1:58:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAE714E07 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:Z416LjGOKdPYqgxc8PvG4qlo2JI7jTIv@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id RAA02626; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:53:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id RAA10379; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:57:38 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905240857.RAA10379@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Doug Rabson Cc: William Woods , stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: PS/2 mouse on Fresh 3.2 install doesnt wiork.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 09:31:00 +0100." References: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:57:37 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> >OK, dmesg | grep psm0 >> > >> >psm0 not found >> > >> >William >> >> We need much more information in order to diagnose your problem. >> >> When starting your system, please hit return while the message >> >> "Booting kernel in X seconds..." > >I thought return started the boot immediately. I use space... Oops. You are absolutely right. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 6:38:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BEB14EBC for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-153.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.153]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA18686 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:38:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (nospam.hiwaay.net [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA05828 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:38:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199905241338.IAA05828@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured From: David Kelly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:38:21 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: % mdir a: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured Cannot initialize 'A:' % fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440 fdformat: /dev/rfd0.1440: Device not configured % ls -l /dev/rfd0 crw-rx---- 9 root operator 9, 0 May 24 08:24 /dev/rfd0 % id uid=928(dkelly) gid=928(dkelly) groups=928(dkelly), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 68(dialer) % dmesg | grep fdc fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold % Built a new kernel too. My selections are a subset of GENERIC, the fdc stuff was untouched. What broke? It used to work with earlier 3.1's. It appears dmesg sees the floppy device. Is it something I'm doing? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 7: 4:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DB314BD3; Mon, 24 May 1999 07:04:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA90209; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:04:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: blitz@pdq.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work References: <19990519233544.130B915164@hub.freebsd.org> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 24 May 1999 16:04:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Craig Harding"'s message of "Thu, 20 May 1999 11:35:11 +1200" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Craig Harding" writes: > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 9:41:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9D1114E41; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lxnM-0000Mi-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, blitz@pdq.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > "Craig Harding" writes: > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. Nope. First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. Here is what is looks like: 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec So a 64k ISDN channel is fair amount faster (about 20%) than two 33.6k modems. > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 9:48:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A951553F; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:48:14 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Tom" Cc: , Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:48:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea605$374504f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Umm, 33.6 modems are synchronous. DS > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > "Craig Harding" writes: > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. > > Nope. > > First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. > > Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. > > Here is what is looks like: > > 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec > 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec > > So a 64k ISDN channel is fair amount faster (about 20%) than two 33.6k > modems. > > > DES > > -- > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > Tom > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 9:57:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ixori.demon.nl (ixori.demon.nl [195.11.248.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DA214CF5; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Received: from localhost.ixori.demon.nl (localhost.ixori.demon.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ixori.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01806; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:01:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bart@ixori.demon.nl) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:01:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Bart van Leeuwen To: Tom Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , isdn@freebsd.org, blitz@pdq.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom wrote: > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > "Craig Harding" writes: > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. > > Nope. > > First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. > > Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. > > Here is what is looks like: > > 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec > 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec > Uusually async modems also support things like mnp4 and 5, v42, v42bis etc. one of the results of this is that the actual transport of data across a pstn or leased line with 2 async modems looks pretty much the same, and also achieves pretty much the same throughput as using 2 sync modems on that same line. Your comparison is only true for a plain async connection, but thats not what 2 async modems do. (and, when testing this on a network that has way more throughput then your async connection, you will plainly see this by achieving approx 110% of the theoretical async throughput, given you use things like a as high as possible dte-dce connection and hardware handshaking) > So a 64k ISDN channel is fair amount faster (about 20%) than two 33.6k > modems. > So... this is only true for a async connection employing 2 plain async modems without any error correction and such, which are almost extinct nowadays. Still there are a lot of advantages when using isdn, and esp. when compared to 2 33k6 connections the fact that its a single connection that can be setup quickly and requires very little overhead to be managed is where your potential performance gains are. Bart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 10:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3218714D32; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA91192; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:20:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Bart van Leeuwen Cc: Tom , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , isdn@freebsd.org, blitz@pdq.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 24 May 1999 19:20:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bart van Leeuwen's message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 19:01:06 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bart van Leeuwen writes: > Still there are a lot of advantages when using isdn, and esp. when > compared to 2 33k6 connections the fact that its a single connection that > can be setup quickly and requires very little overhead to be managed is > where your potential performance gains are. There was never talk of using two 33k6 modems instead of an ISDN line. Somebody claimed that an ISDN TA was a "very fast modem", to which I replied that the difference was not large enough to warrant the use of the word "very". DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 11:51:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 63ED41524F; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lzpH-0007kl-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:51:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: David Schwartz Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: <000001bea605$374504f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > Umm, 33.6 modems are synchronous. > > DS No Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 11:54:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9E7F15454; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10lzrQ-0000JG-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:54:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Bart van Leeuwen Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , isdn@freebsd.org, blitz@pdq.net, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Bart van Leeuwen wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom wrote: > > > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > > > "Craig Harding" writes: > > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > > > > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. > > > > Nope. > > > > First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact > > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. > > > > Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various > > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete > > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. > > > > Here is what is looks like: > > > > 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec > > 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec > > > > Uusually async modems also support things like mnp4 and 5, v42, > v42bis etc. one of the results of this is that the actual transport of Yes, I didn't include that. Nor did I not include using STAC compression on the ISDN line. STAC provides much better results than any modem compression protocol. ... > So... this is only true for a async connection employing 2 plain async > modems without any error correction and such, which are almost > extinct nowadays. So is a bare ISDN connection. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 12: 0:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 748CD153ED; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nje@azstarnet.com) Received: from black-hole (black-hole.azstarnet.com [169.197.53.211]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA18322; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:55:48 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:45 -0700 (MST) From: "Nicholas J. Esborn" X-Sender: nje@black-hole To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: natd as a 'routing daemon' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a thought... Might it not be logical to put natd in the 'routing daemons' section of the boot process? That would start it before things like quota checking, which can take a lot of time and prevent a combination worgroup server/NAT box from providing network access, even when it could be with no consequence. Also, it does seem rather like a form of routing. Nicholas Esborn | www.azstarnet.com | StarNet (520) 618-RTFM | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 12:47:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M2.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEF814BE4 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00604; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:47:35 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3749ACC0.ED08FDCE@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:47:14 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured References: <199905241338.IAA05828@nospam.hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Dave, I'm now at home & running 2.2.5-R. So, even after I invited operator to wheel group, operator couldnt make operation with permissions of crw-r----- on fd*. Now look at ur permissions. They look strange... crw-rx---- 9 root operator 9, 0 May 24 08:24 /dev/rfd0 ^^^ David Kelly wrote: > Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". > Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: > > % mdir a: > Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured > Cannot initialize 'A:' > % fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440 > fdformat: /dev/rfd0.1440: Device not configured > % ls -l /dev/rfd0 > crw-rx---- 9 root operator 9, 0 May 24 08:24 /dev/rfd0 > % id > uid=928(dkelly) gid=928(dkelly) groups=928(dkelly), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 68(dialer) > % dmesg | grep fdc > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > % > > Built a new kernel too. My selections are a subset of GENERIC, the fdc > stuff was untouched. > > What broke? It used to work with earlier 3.1's. It appears dmesg sees > the floppy device. Is it something I'm doing? > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target Ã80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 13:14:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D2C14D90 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:14:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.0) with SMTP id GAA23015; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:13:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:13:52 +1000 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Tom Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , blitz@pdq.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ isdn trimmed, I'm not on it ] On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom wrote: > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > "Craig Harding" writes: > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. > > Nope. Yes, but for smaller values of nope :-) > First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. I expect that's true, though in Australia at least, you pay per 64K for data connections (at a much higher cost), so it's a fair consideration. > Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. > > Here is what is looks like: > > 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec > 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec > > So a 64k ISDN channel is fair amount faster (about 20%) than two 33.6k > modems. That's what it looks like if you're not running LAPM error correction on your modem link/s. But you most likely are, and while ignoring any data compression, after allowing for LAPM packet overhead and (_synchronous_) bit stuffing, LAPM modems run at about 1.16 - 1.17 times the async rate. 2 x 33.6k modems: 67200 / (10/1.16) ~= 7800 bytes/sec. Which makes 64k ISDN only about 2.5% faster, before any compression. Of course your links between serial ports and modems are most likely async, so (each) need to run at ~3900 x 10 ~= 39000 bps at that rate. Cheers, Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 13:28:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aval.krcrme.dp.ua (aval.krcrme.dp.ua [195.5.60.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E01B154BC for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from valera@aval.krcrme.dp.ua) Received: (from valera@localhost) by aval.krcrme.dp.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2) id WAA07992 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:27:26 GMT (envelope-from valera) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:27:26 GMT From: "Valery V. Chikalov" Message-Id: <199905242227.WAA07992@aval.krcrme.dp.ua> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: route get VS netstat -r Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, all! I have a big distributed network with a lot of subnetworks and all are working predictably. But sometimes i'm fall down in very strange and fully repeatable situation. HOBBIT(10.20.64.234) <--dialup PPP--> nautilus(10.20.64.1) <--Ethernet--| | Internet <-- slip --- --> GOLIATH(10.20.64.6) < -----------| dwarf(10.20.64.100) < -----------| PHASE 1:all is okey ********************************************************** goliath# netstat -rn ( output is in full accordance with gated.conf) ---- skip a lot of ------- 10.20.64.224/27 10.20.64.1 de0 --- All ok, I can see & ping hobbit ---- skip a lot of ------- goliath# netstat -rn | grep 10.20.64.100 10.20.67.0/24 10.20.64.100 ---- All ok, another subnet goliath# netstat -rn > routes.ok ---- it will be needed later and dwarf is in off state hobbit# uname -r 4.0-CURRENT goliath# uname -r 3.1-CURRENT goliath# gated version --> 3-5-9 hobbit# ftp goliath ( geting something) PHASE 2:i try to simulate connection breakdown *********************************************************** hobbit# killall -1 pppd PHASE 3:after the connecting restored *********************************************************** goliath# ping hobbit ping 10.20.64.234 no route to host ^C goliath# netstat -rn ( again, output is in a full accordance with gated.conf) ---- skip a lot of ------- 10.20.64.224/27 10.20.64.1 de0 --- All ok, as before ---- skip a lot of ------- goliath# netstat -rn | grep 10.20.64.100 10.20.67.0/24 10.20.64.100 NEVETHELESS !!!!! !!!! goliath# route get 10.20.64.234 ---> giving me 10.20.64.100 as gateway ( DWARF !! which is down !? } goliath# grep 10.20.64.100 gated.conf 10.20.67.0/24 10.20.64.100 nautilus# grep 10.20.64.100 gated.conf 10.20.67.0/24 10.20.64.100 goliath# netstat -rn > routes.bad goliath# diff routes.ok routes.bad ---> no differences And the remedy is very simple: goliath# killall gated goliath# /usr/local/sbin/gated And of course goliath# netstat -rn ---> reproducing the EXACTLY same routes set as in the BOTH previous cases. killall -SIGINT or -SIGUSR2 gated --- have not help I'm running ipfw - firewall in "simple" configuration on goliath. Of course, my setup maybe complicated and possibly there are a lot of places to looking for misconfiguration. But, what my question is --- why i see BOGUS routes table when using "netstat -r" -- which is ,as i think, fully independent tool from MAYBE buggy gated? Why are "route get HOST" and "netstat -r" in contradiction with one another? And what is the more exact (preferable) way for routes table examination? Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 13:36:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xkis.kis.ru (xkis.kis.ru [195.98.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6125D1540C; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dv@dv.ru) Received: from localhost (dv@localhost) by xkis.kis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA00710; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:36:38 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:36:38 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Valdov X-Sender: dv@xkis.kis.ru To: Tom Cc: David Schwartz , isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:51:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom > To: David Schwartz > Cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: ISDN Terminal adapter no work > > On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > > Umm, 33.6 modems are synchronous. > > > > DS > > No Yes. Any modern error correction protocols is synchronous. So, maximum throughput of 33.6 modem with v.42 (*WITHOUT* compression!) is 33600/8=4200 bytes/sec. Dmitry. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 14: 1:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE07715399 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id XAA31760; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:53:45 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:53:45 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured Message-ID: <19990524235345.A28473@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199905241338.IAA05828@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905241338.IAA05828@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:38:21AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:38:21AM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". > Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: > [...] > % fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440 > fdformat: /dev/rfd0.1440: Device not configured > % ls -l /dev/rfd0 > crw-rx---- 9 root operator 9, 0 May 24 08:24 /dev/rfd0 > % id > uid=928(dkelly) gid=928(dkelly) groups=928(dkelly), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 68(dialer) > % dmesg | grep fdc > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > % > > Built a new kernel too. My selections are a subset of GENERIC, the fdc > stuff was untouched. > > What broke? It used to work with earlier 3.1's. It appears dmesg sees > the floppy device. Is it something I'm doing? > Make sure you have added `disk fd0 ...' line in your kernel config. Also make sure that your floopy drive is attached properly and enabled in your BIOS. Script started on Mon May 24 23:40:16 1999 relay# uname -v | awk '{ --NF; print $0 }' FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Sun May 23 02:43:19 EEST 1999 relay# grep fd /var/run/dmesg.boot fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in relay# fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440 Format 1440K floppy `/dev/rfd0.1440'? (y/n): y Processing VVV^C----------------------------------- relay# exit Script done on Mon May 24 23:41:20 1999 Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 14: 5:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE65E14D6D for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1244.bossig.com [208.26.241.244]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11064; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3749BF1C.A72C5612@3-cities.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:32 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured References: <199905241338.IAA05828@nospam.hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly wrote: > > Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". > Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: I just went through this a week or so ago. There are massive changes to many things in /etc. There are new /dev device names. I didn't really have 3.2-stable until I really ran mergemaster and rebooted. Kent (KA7GKW) > > % mdir a: > Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured > Cannot initialize 'A:' > % fdformat /dev/rfd0.1440 > fdformat: /dev/rfd0.1440: Device not configured > % ls -l /dev/rfd0 > crw-rx---- 9 root operator 9, 0 May 24 08:24 /dev/rfd0 > % id > uid=928(dkelly) gid=928(dkelly) groups=928(dkelly), 0(wheel), 5(operator), 68(dialer) > % dmesg | grep fdc > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > % > > Built a new kernel too. My selections are a subset of GENERIC, the fdc > stuff was untouched. > > What broke? It used to work with earlier 3.1's. It appears dmesg sees > the floppy device. Is it something I'm doing? > > -- > David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net > ===================================================================== > The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its > capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 15: 4:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8AB14E11; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA81340; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:02:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00585; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:41:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199905241741.SAA00585@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tom Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, blitz@pdq.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:42 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:41:45 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > "Craig Harding" writes: > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems. > > > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem. > > Nope. > > First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world. > > Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async. Now some people use various > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP. > > Here is what is looks like: > > 64k ISDN channel: 64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec > 2 x 33.6 modem: 67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec > > So a 64k ISDN channel is fair amount faster (about 20%) than two 33.6k > modems. Recent tests with user-ppp show that running in sync mode (and skipping all the hdlc and async packet reassembly stuff) will buy you another 50% throughput wrt cpu load. This can make a big difference if you're using a few ppp invocations. > > DES > > -- > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > Tom -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 15:16:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A631150B3 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroyce@ualr.edu) Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #24705) with SMTP id <01JBL0DR70V400S49G@UALR.EDU> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:15:57 CDT Received: from ualr.edu ([144.167.120.221]) by athena.ualr.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:15:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:16:06 -0500 From: jeroyce@ualr.edu Subject: users can't login after make world To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3749CFA6.BF41CDFD@ualr.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I did an upgrade from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable and now my users can't login. When I logged in as root it didn't ask for a password and when I try to login as a user it gives me the 'Login incorrect' error. vipw shows that the users exist but when I try "passwd user" it says the user is unknown. Any help on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated. When replying please cc to this email address. -Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 15:24:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B99E14C2B for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroyce@ualr.edu) Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #24705) with SMTP id <01JBL0OH10EO00RS3G@UALR.EDU> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:35 CDT Received: from ualr.edu ([144.167.120.221]) by athena.ualr.edu with ESMTP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:47 -0500 From: jeroyce@ualr.edu Subject: disregard usres can't login after make world To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <3749D1AF.C9D55E12@ualr.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I figured out that something is wrong with bash and the users have that as their default login shell. Fixed it by changing the default shell. Thanks, Joe =============================================================== Hi all, I did an upgrade from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable and now my users can't login. When I logged in as root it didn't ask for a password and when I try to login as a user it gives me the 'Login incorrect' error. vipw shows that the users exist but when I try "passwd user" it says the user is unknown. Any help on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated. When replying please cc to this email address. -Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 16:36:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18201517C for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:36:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adepoo@tamnet.com.mx) Received: from correo.tamnet.com.mx (correo.tamnet.com.mx [200.34.205.20]) by correo.tamnet.com.mx (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id SAA29746 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:36:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Alberto de Poo Bas To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ftp server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I want to install an ftp server on a new 3.2 system, do I go with the included or is another one? What's the name of the one that wcarchive.cdrom.com use? Thanks. Al To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 17:12: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2739F14DE2 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-23.cybcon.com [205.147.75.24]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA23050 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: PSM0 not DECTED...PLEASE HELP...... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:11:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea643$2c4372b0$184b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, I am getting just a little lit at this laptop. FreeBSD mobile.cybcon.com 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Mon May 24 15:13:14 PDT 1999 root@mobile.cybcon.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/mobile i386 It is a toshiba Satelite, I have the ps/2 mouse enabled in the bios, I have the psm0 device in the kernel config, here is the realivant section of the kernel config: # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 options PSM_HOOKAPM options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND here is the dmesg on that same kerenel regarding psm0: psm0 not found And also, in /dev/ there is no psm0 either....... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Below, you will find the entire kernel config: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.12 1999/05/14 15:12:26 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident WILLIAM maxusers 128 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller ncr0 controller ahb0 controller ahc0 controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. controller dpt0 controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller adw0 controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 options PSM_HOOKAPM options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support controller card0 device pcic0 at card? device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 #device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter # Softupdates options SOFTUPDATES # Firewall options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options "ICMP_BANDLIM" ---------------------------------------------------------------- And here is the dmesg ----------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Mon May 24 15:13:14 PDT 1999 root@mobile.cybcon.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/mobile Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 42139648 (41152K bytes) avail memory = 37351424 (36476K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0378000. Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc037809c. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/splash.bmp" at 0xc0378140. Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1295MB (2654064 sectors), 2633 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 3 Initializing PC-card drivers: sio fe ep ed Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry changing root device to wd0s1a ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 18:10:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27ADA14D62 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00840; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:04:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990524211005.00b5e7b4@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:10:05 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: ftp server Cc: Alberto de Poo Bas In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I want to install an ftp server on a new 3.2 system, do I go with the >included or is another one? > >What's the name of the one that wcarchive.cdrom.com use? > >Thanks. > >Al "wu-ftpd", in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/wu-ftpd/). Try it and decide which you prefer. Tom Embt tom@embt.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!" "Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert. Tom Embt ICQ UIN: 11245398 tom@embt.com d:-)> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 18:13:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68F514D62 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00781; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905250111.SAA00781@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Alberto de Poo Bas Subject: Re: ftp server In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 21:10:05 EDT." <3.0.3.32.19990524211005.00b5e7b4@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:11:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >I want to install an ftp server on a new 3.2 system, do I go with the > >included or is another one? > > > >What's the name of the one that wcarchive.cdrom.com use? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Al > > "wu-ftpd", in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/wu-ftpd/). No, wcarchive uses David Greenman's heavily modified ftpd. It's not generally available though. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 18:54:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9D914EFE for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:fIfbOafBpurRAgw0j+9H/O1uN2k05h03@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id KAA04698; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:54:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id KAA00638; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:58:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905250158.KAA00638@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "William Woods" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: PSM0 not DECTED...PLEASE HELP...... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 17:11:44 MST." <000001bea643$2c4372b0$184b93cd@william> References: <000001bea643$2c4372b0$184b93cd@william> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:58:14 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >FreeBSD mobile.cybcon.com 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Mon May 24 >15:13:14 PDT 1999 root@mobile.cybcon.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/mobile >i386 > >It is a toshiba Satelite, I have the ps/2 mouse enabled in the bios, I have >the psm0 device in the kernel config, here is the realivant section of the >kernel config: > ># atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse >controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty >device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 >device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 >options PSM_HOOKAPM >options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND Add options PSM_DEBUG=2 options KBDIO_DEBUG=2 These options will generate much more diagnostic messages when probing the PS/2 mouse. Send me the output from `dmesg' after booting the kernel with the above options. >here is the dmesg on that same kerenel regarding psm0: > >psm0 not found > >And also, in /dev/ there is no psm0 either....... Become root. Go to /dev, and type ./MAKEDEV psm0 Kazu yokota@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 18:54:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C496D14EFE for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-123.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.123]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA26063 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:54:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (nospam.hiwaay.net [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00389 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:54:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199905250154.UAA00389@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured In-reply-to: Message from Kent Stewart of "Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:32 PDT." <3749BF1C.A72C5612@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:54:28 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart writes: > > > David Kelly wrote: > > > > Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". > > Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: > > I just went through this a week or so ago. There are massive changes > to many things in /etc. There are new /dev device names. I didn't > really have 3.2-stable until I really ran mergemaster and rebooted. Thanks to all who replied. Just now did the mergemaster thing. Had already done /dev/MAKEDEV* and recreated the devices. Out of desperation, booted NT4SP3. NT couldn't see the floppy anymore either. Its time for surgery and possibly a trip to the store for a new floppy drive. At least I hope its the drive and not the MB. Mabye a cable fell off as the drive doesn't seek at boot, and that's selected in the BIOS. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 19:15:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3B4154C6 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10m6k6-00027j-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:14:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Alberto de Poo Bas Subject: Re: ftp server In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990524211005.00b5e7b4@mail.embt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom Embt wrote: > "wu-ftpd", in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/wu-ftpd/). Not quite. It was based on wu-ftpd at one point, but bares little resemblence these days. > Try it and decide which you prefer. > > Tom Embt > tom@embt.com Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 19:45:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.246.83.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F6D14F03 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28653 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:45:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kmartin) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:45:13 -0400 From: Kenn Martin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ftp server Message-ID: <19990524224513.A28595@infoteam.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990524211005.00b5e7b4@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990524211005.00b5e7b4@mail.embt.com>; from Tom Embt on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 09:10:05PM -0400 Organization: InfoTeam Corp, Lexington X-Phone: 1 606 335 7233 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 09:10:05PM -0400, Tom Embt wrote: > >I want to install an ftp server on a new 3.2 system, do I go with the > >included or is another one? > > > >What's the name of the one that wcarchive.cdrom.com use? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Al > > "wu-ftpd", in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/wu-ftpd/). > > Try it and decide which you prefer. Another very good alternative is ProFTPD, /usr/ports/net/proftpd. The configuration is Apache-like. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 22:34: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1310614DF1 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-45.cybcon.com [205.147.75.46]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA11643; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "Kazutaka YOKOTA" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: RE: PSM0 not DECTED...PLEASE HELP...... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:33:56 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bea670$2ef308e0$2e4b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199905250158.KAA00638@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is a copy of dmesg with those new commands in the kernel: --------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Mon May 24 22:16:34 PDT 1999 root@mobile.cybcon.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/mobile Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 42139648 (41152K bytes) avail memory = 37380096 (36504K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0371000. Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc037109c. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/splash.bmp" at 0xc0371140. Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: kbdc: new command byte:0046 (set_controller...) kbdc: 1:0 char read (empty_both_buffers) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbdc: new command byte:0047 (set_controller...) sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0: current command byte:0047 kbdc: new command byte:0054 (set_controller...) kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: new command byte:0047 (set_controller...) psm0: failed to reset the aux device. psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1295MB (2654064 sectors), 2633 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 cs0 not found at 0x300 adv0 not found at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x330 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x334 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x230 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x234 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x130 bt_isa_probe: Probe failed for card at 0x134 bt0 not found at 0x134 aha0 not found at 0x134 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 3 Initializing PC-card drivers: sio fe ep ed Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry changing root device to wd0s1a ------------------------------------------------- Is this any help? William > -----Original Message----- > From: Kazutaka YOKOTA [mailto:yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 6:58 PM > To: William Woods > Cc: FreeBSD Stable; yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp > Subject: Re: PSM0 not DECTED...PLEASE HELP...... > > > > >FreeBSD mobile.cybcon.com 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Mon May 24 > >15:13:14 PDT 1999 root@mobile.cybcon.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/mobile > >i386 > > > >It is a toshiba Satelite, I have the ps/2 mouse enabled in the > bios, I have > >the psm0 device in the kernel config, here is the realivant > section of the > >kernel config: > > > ># atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > >controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty > >device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 > >device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 > >options PSM_HOOKAPM > >options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND > > Add > options PSM_DEBUG=2 > options KBDIO_DEBUG=2 > > These options will generate much more diagnostic messages when > probing the PS/2 mouse. Send me the output from `dmesg' after > booting the kernel with the above options. > > >here is the dmesg on that same kerenel regarding psm0: > > > >psm0 not found > > > >And also, in /dev/ there is no psm0 either....... > > Become root. Go to /dev, and type > > ./MAKEDEV psm0 > > Kazu > yokota@FreeBSD.ORG > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 22:37:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C04B714DF1 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 25 May 1999 05:37:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's OSes gives significantly better results This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES any more... With best regards, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 22:43:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031EE15341 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00380; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905250541.WAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "25 May 1999 05:37:06 -0000." <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:41:29 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You write to tell us now that a release that was produced some four months ago is (was?) unstable? Have you noticed that we've done another release since then? Have you stopped to consider that it isn't even slightly helpful to report problems with FreeBSD _after_ a release? We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to be ignored at the very least. In your case, I can't work out what it is that you want to achieve here; the problems with 3.1 are well known and have mostly been addressed in 3.2. There are ongoing issues that are being worked on, with help from various people (yourself notably not included). If you want to see future releases perform better than the one you're whining about now, I suggest you get busy contributing something more useful than your current load of hot air. > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > any more... > > > With best regards, Sergey. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 22:53:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E9B14CBA for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:07 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Mike Smith" , "Sergey" Cc: Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:07 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199905250541.WAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus 'company supported' puzzle. DS > You write to tell us now that a release that was produced some four > months ago is (was?) unstable? > > Have you noticed that we've done another release since then? > > Have you stopped to consider that it isn't even slightly helpful to > report problems with FreeBSD _after_ a release? We depend on our users > to tell us about problems on the -stable branch before it's rolled into > a release, not afterwards. If you're not willing to take part in this > process, your complaints are likely to be ignored at the very least. > > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" > configuration. > > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even > Microsoft's > > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > > any more... > > > > > > With best regards, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23: 0: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1501214D74 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03134; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "25 May 1999 05:37:06 -0000." <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:00:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3130.927612057@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. This message is content free. Where are the details? Whining is not what we need to see here since it is useless for everyone concerned to even read it. Technical data which supports the existence of a kernel bug which we can then work to find and fix, that is not useless and quite helpful to everyone here, including other users who might *also* wish to know a few concrete details about the problems you're having. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:10:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B7814E47 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03204; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:11:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "David Schwartz" Cc: "Mike Smith" , "Sergey" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:07 PDT." <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:11:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3200.927612670@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus > 'company supported' puzzle. You're inferring far too much from this. If you want a "supported FreeBSD" then you can always buy a support contract and pay someone some money to ensure, more or less, that the software/support combo you're getting will predictably meet your needs. If you're just downloading something off the net which represents an ongoing moving target and you're working with volunteers who REQUIRE precise and accurate bug reports in order to do anything at all useful for you, however, then certain minimum standards in the user himself must be met. Some users who "just want to use it" and not be bothered to adapt to the unique non-commercial environment they're now in are expecting far too much from too little personal investment, basically. To put it another way, there are certain laws of entropy that stay the same regardless of the commercial or free nature of the software, and to get a certain amount of energy out of a system you simply have to put a certain amount of energy in. If that "energy" is not being introduced into the equation via the currently acceptable barter unit (money) then that's obviously going to have to be balanced by extra energy from somewhere else. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:13:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A49155BA for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00594; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905250611.XAA00594@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "David Schwartz" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 22:53:07 PDT." <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:11:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus > 'company supported' puzzle. Users are welcome, if not encouraged to "use" FreeBSD. However, they need to understand how the development process works, and particularly they need to avoid irritating the developers by complaining about things that a) have been fixed already, and b) could not be fixed with the information supplied. FreeBSD is not a "shrinkwrap" product, and I don't think that any of us pretend otherwise. If a user is naively expecting something different then they are in dire need of some reality adjustment, and bringing them up short when they start with the public histrionics is probably more of a service than an affront. Speaking from a developer's viewpoint; if a complaint from any quarter doesn't contain the bare minimum of real information needed to identify the problem (or at least problem class) it's worthless. In fact, it's worse than worthless, it's an active waste of my time even thinking about it. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:27:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1052714E47 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:27:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 25 May 1999 06:27:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525062717.30031.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: "Mike Smith" Cc: References: <199905250541.WAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You write to tell us now that a release that was produced some four > months ago is (was?) unstable? > > Have you noticed that we've done another release since then? > As far as I know, there are same problems in new releases. I've talked with some person who experince same instability in 3.2-R. > Have you stopped to consider that it isn't even slightly helpful to > report problems with FreeBSD _after_ a release? We depend on our users > to tell us about problems on the -stable branch before it's rolled into > a release, not afterwards. If you're not willing to take part in this > process, your complaints are likely to be ignored at the very least. If I report problem, Is not time to ask me about details at least? If this PR known, THEN ignore me - NOT BEFORE. If you close eyes on problems in past releases - you'll leave it in future too!!! > > In your case, I can't work out what it is that you want to achieve > here; the problems with 3.1 are well known and have mostly been Yours ATTENTION is my target ;) I WANT (and CAN) help, but no one interested in !!! > addressed in 3.2. There are ongoing issues that are being worked on, > with help from various people (yourself notably not included). > If problem is random in nature you can't find it NEW releases, just because it is needed time to happened. I should wait for 3 days at least to check is this fixed!!! I've found a lot of problems in PR and archives. They are old dated and looking as dead for monthes - no audit trail, no discussion. > If you want to see future releases perform better than the one you're > whining about now, I suggest you get busy contributing something more > useful than your current load of hot air. > I'm ready, I want, but I don't understand how!!! I can claim about problem, I can reproduce it, I can give you more info.... Even more I can start tracing if you give me hints! *** But how can I do something if YOU just ignore issue ??? *** With best regards, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:28: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACAE1560C for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:01 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199905250611.XAA00594@dingo.cdrom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Speaking from a developer's viewpoint; if a complaint from any quarter > doesn't contain the bare minimum of real information needed to identify > the problem (or at least problem class) it's worthless. In fact, it's > worse than worthless, it's an active waste of my time even thinking > about it. That I do disagree with. The complaint was precise -- the RELEASE was not stable. While it did not contain enough information to solve the problem, there are certainly possible solutions to it. For example, RELEASEs could be frozen a bit longer prior to actual release. More effort could be made to obtain wider testing for pre-RELEASEs. The RELEASE stream could be split off of STABLE earlier and allowed to stabilize without bouncing STABLE around with it. I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am saying that he provided enough information to identify the problem class. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:37:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4B154D2 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:37:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00767; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905250635.XAA00767@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "25 May 1999 06:27:17 -0000." <19990525062717.30031.qmail@nym.alias.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:35:35 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > You write to tell us now that a release that was produced some four > > months ago is (was?) unstable? > > > > Have you noticed that we've done another release since then? > > > > As far as I know, there are same problems in new releases. I've talked > with some person who experince same instability in 3.2-R. You have verified the cause of the alleged instability in both cases, and proven it to be the same? If you know exactly what's causing this problem, why haven't you told us so that we can fix it? If you have nothing more scientific than "it crashes eventually", how can you claim that this is the "same instability"? > > Have you stopped to consider that it isn't even slightly helpful to > > report problems with FreeBSD _after_ a release? We depend on our users > > to tell us about problems on the -stable branch before it's rolled into > > a release, not afterwards. If you're not willing to take part in this > > process, your complaints are likely to be ignored at the very least. > > If I report problem, Is not time to ask me about details at least? No. You should be including the details in your initial report. Why should we have to drag them out of you? > If you close eyes on problems in past releases - you'll leave it in future > too!!! If we went around staring at every half-assed complaint, we'd go blind. We get the best results from attacking problems where the original plaintiff has supplied lots of useful details. Trying to fix whatever you're complaining about is likely to be almost impossible, and there's a good chance that your problem has already been fixed. > > In your case, I can't work out what it is that you want to achieve > > here; the problems with 3.1 are well known and have mostly been > > Yours ATTENTION is my target ;) You're not getting my attention, you are pissing me off. This waffle from you is simply going to make me, and quite possibly other people, pay _less_ attention to you than before. > I WANT (and CAN) help, but no one interested in !!! You're not demonstrating this. Prove your intentions and your ability by doing the smart and sensible things, not making vague and unsubstantiated claims. > > addressed in 3.2. There are ongoing issues that are being worked on, > > with help from various people (yourself notably not included). > > > > If problem is random in nature you can't find it NEW releases, > just because it is needed time to happened. I should wait for 3 days > at least to check is this fixed!!! A -release is generally functionally identical to the -stable branch that has lead up to it. This is why we freeze the CVS repository before the release, and why we ask people like you to TEST it. If you only complain about a months-old release, nobody is going to be able to help you. Do you understand this? > I've found a lot of problems in PR and archives. They are old dated and > looking as dead for monthes - no audit trail, no discussion. See above inre: what is worth working on. > > If you want to see future releases perform better than the one you're > > whining about now, I suggest you get busy contributing something more > > useful than your current load of hot air. > > > I'm ready, I want, but I don't understand how!!! I can claim about problem, > I can reproduce it, I can give you more info.... Even more I can start > tracing if you give me hints! You claim to have read the list archives; they are full of explanations of the debugging process. > *** But how can I do something if YOU just ignore issue ??? *** You cannot accuse us of not helping you, when it is you that is meant to be helping us. The issue is going to be ignored until you collect the same basic information that everyone else does, and until you upgrade through all of the changes that have been made which might affect your problem. The only way that we can help you is if you first help yourself. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 24 23:49:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743D214D0D for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03390; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "David Schwartz" Cc: "Mike Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:00 PDT." <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:50:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3386.927615018@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > bit longer prior to actual release. More effort could be made to obtain > wider testing for pre-RELEASEs. The RELEASE stream could be split off of > STABLE earlier and allowed to stabilize without bouncing STABLE around with > it. "More effort" can always be made, but if you leave release scheduling to pure conservatism then we release about once every other year; I've been there and I know this from empirical evidence. Every release, and I do mean *every* release, is an exercise in compromise. Go for perfection and 18 months will go by with people screaming for it and your developers saying "sorry, not ready yet! Ask again next month!" until all of you grow old. Go for a 2 day turn-around and Mistakes Will Be Made. What we've found in our current release schedule is about the best ratio between the two extremes. If you give people even more time by splitting early, do you know what happens? They move more slowly through a reduced sense of urgency, you don't magically get a linear gain in productivity. :) > I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am saying that he > provided enough information to identify the problem class. Identifying the problem class is not enough. As I said before, certain *minimum* standards must be met and a minimum is, indeed, a minimum. It's not even negotiable, I'm merely clarifying it for the sake of other readers. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 0: 0: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0726F15508 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA82039; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:58:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA00897; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905250658.AAA00897@harmony.village.org> To: "David Schwartz" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: "Mike Smith" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 23:28:00 PDT." <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> References: <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:58:33 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> "David Schwartz" writes: : That I do disagree with. The complaint was precise -- the : RELEASE was not stable. Crap. Without providing details about *HOW* the release isn't stable, it isn't precice enough. I run FreeBSD-stable 3.1 every single day and have had no problems with instability that would cause a reboot every 24 hours. : While it did not contain enough information to solve the problem, there are : certainly possible solutions to it. For example, RELEASEs could be frozen a : bit longer prior to actual release. More effort could be made to obtain : wider testing for pre-RELEASEs. The RELEASE stream could be split off of : STABLE earlier and allowed to stabilize without bouncing STABLE around with : it. Without knowing exactly what the problem is, any attempts at finding a solution is just pissing in the wind. A vauge report that things are instable is not enough to reproduce squat, nor is it enough to know what the instability is. Hell, for all I know, he could be running his system by a Van der Graaf generator which is causing the instability. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 0:22:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tinny.eis.net.au (tinny.eis.net.au [203.12.171.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7B1153AD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tinny.eis.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.3) id RAA24573; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:21:57 +1000 (EST) Received: from UNKNOWN(203.34.142.30), claiming to be "upstairs" via SMTP by tinny.eis.net.au, id smtpdT24568; Tue May 25 17:21:51 1999 Message-ID: <037201bea67f$697957d0$1e8e22cb@upstairs> From: "Andrew" To: "Sergey" Cc: References: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:22:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A friend of mine who runs a web hosting and anonymous ftp server has been running 3.1 Release for about 2 months without even so much as a reboot . The box is on a 100mbit connection at a data center. He also has a shell service on the same box. The box recently set a record for the amount of data served from any client at the data center. The second closest client which has a whole room full of SGI and SUN machines was only using about half as much data. The machine is a P2-450 with x3 16 GIG IBM ide drives and 512 meg ram. He has just changed another box in a different country to FreeBSD 3.2 release from Solaris 2.7 ( x86 ) because of problems. It is now running 3.2 Release and everything seams great. Solaris 2.7 dosent like ide drives over 8 gig which isnt good considering IBM make 22 gig IDE drives now. Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Sergey To: Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? > Hi! > > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > any more... > > > With best regards, Sergey. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 0:34: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from void.bloodletting.com (void.bloodletting.com [209.31.32.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C674153AD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:34:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mouse@bloodletting.com) Received: (qmail 1042 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 07:43:09 -0000 Received: from rust.bloodletting.com (HELO rust) (10.6.66.13) by void.bloodletting.com with SMTP; 25 May 1999 07:43:09 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990525003730.007c6b20@void.bloodletting.com> X-Sender: cryptic@void.bloodletting.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:37:30 -0700 To: Sergey , From: Nick Popoff Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sergey, For information on how to report stability problems you should check out the FreeBSD handbook entry on kernel troubleshooting. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html Come back with any information you gather from following the instructions there and you may find a more receptive audience and actual solutions to your problems. [ Speaking of wasted time, it's depressing to see how easy it is to provoke energetic flaming. ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 1: 1:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03F4A155E7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 25 May 1999 08:01:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525080129.24577.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: "Mike Smith" Cc: References: <199905250635.XAA00767@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [1] > If you only complain about a months-old release, nobody is going to be > able to help you. Do you understand this? No. I've think that your interesed in PR about any "supported" release, i.e. 3.0-3.2 for now. Ok, now I understand if my OS isn't stable - I can go to hell. Please WRITE this with RED

font in Handbook. And you'll get 50 times less problem reports. I don't catch this before your flame - thanks. I swear NEVER report a problem if my OS isn't stable. Sorry for you time, Sergey. P.S.: Let's close this meaningless discussion. I ack, I was wrong ... P.P.S.: I've wrote my tech PR again before read [1]. You are free to ignore it, because 3.1R is too old to carry. > If you have nothing more scientific than "it crashes eventually", how > can you claim that this is the "same instability"? It's same instability, because it gives same panic message in same context. panic: lockmgr: locking against myself. This doesn't depend on running processes or system load. This happens on exiting from '[','date'. One time in 'syncer'. This happens randomly - so long time I was sure that this is hardware problems. Once per 1-3 days. I've got it when using softupdates (tunefs -n enable) and when not using (tunefs -n disable). > No. You should be including the details in your initial report. Why > should we have to drag them out of you? I do, but it was ignored. [ my advocacy ] Ok, I agree my last claim (about RELEASES instability) in this thread is out-of-context. A little prehistory... I've sent technical description in my early messages (before this thread). Got only ONE reply, checked solution - it doesn't work, I notify this person (@FreeBSD.ORG), but he ignores me... I was not satisfied with results, but I have NO new info to raise problem technically again... To be honest 3.1 instability is not problem for me - I have great 2.2.8 server! My target was notify you about problems and hear that this is known and solved (or work in progress at least). In this thread I want get only statistics and personal's opinion - NOT solution for 3.1R problem. But get almost NOTHING. Actually this looks like as no one cares about stability ... Why? So I've got new info at last - problem is NOT hardware dependent. But, If so why, no one cares about my previous technical PR? Does this mean that all similar reports ignored? This why I downgrade my message to emotional level ;) It worked! [ end of advocacy ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 1:35:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B5F15408 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11367; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:54:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <3749CA8A.203E6736@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:54:18 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeroyce@ualr.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: users can't login after make world References: <3749CFA6.BF41CDFD@ualr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What about pwd_mkdb great tool ? Also did U run mergemaster after update? jeroyce@ualr.edu wrote: > Hi all, > I did an upgrade from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable and now my > users > can't login. When I logged in as root it didn't ask for a > password and > when I try to login as a user it gives me the 'Login > incorrect' error. > vipw shows that the users exist but when I try "passwd user" > it says the > user is unknown. Any help on how to fix this would be > greatly appreciated. > When replying please cc to this email address. > > -Joe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 1:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7E614C93; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03493; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:49:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00559; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:46:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199905250746.IAA00559@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Nicholas J. Esborn" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: natd as a 'routing daemon' In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:45 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:46:21 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just a thought... > > Might it not be logical to put natd in the 'routing daemons' section of > the boot process? That would start it before things like quota checking, > which can take a lot of time and prevent a combination worgroup server/NAT > box from providing network access, even when it could be with no > consequence. > > Also, it does seem rather like a form of routing. Natd is now started right after the firewall is loaded - as a ``divert daemon''. > Nicholas Esborn | > www.azstarnet.com | StarNet > (520) 618-RTFM | -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 2:34:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1128714D51 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 02:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01024; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:33:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10mDam-000055-00; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:33:48 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:33:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Szilveszter To: "Andy V. Oleynik" Cc: jeroyce@ualr.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: users can't login after make world In-Reply-To: <3749CA8A.203E6736@prime.net.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! > > > Hi all, > > I did an upgrade from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable and now my > > users > > can't login. When I logged in as root it didn't ask for a > > password and > > when I try to login as a user it gives me the 'Login > > incorrect' error. > > vipw shows that the users exist but when I try "passwd user" > > it says the > > user is unknown. Any help on how to fix this would be > > greatly appreciated. > > When replying please cc to this email address. I have had the same problem with bash as the login shell for ordinary users. But apart from the tools mentioned by the others in this thread it was also necessary to install the new port of bash from the ports because it also changed a minor version number (or so it seems to me) and the older version was no longer accepted as a standard shell. (it happened when I upgraded from 3.1-RELEASE to -STABLE on May 4th) Luckily I did not change root's shell so there was no problem with that. Maybe this one also helps... Regards: Szilveszter Szeged University Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 3:10: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BEF15629 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7ED6D2EE1A; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 3697 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <037201bea67f$697957d0$1e8e22cb@upstairs> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Andrew Subject: kernel panic in 3.2 WAS Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Sergey Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Andrew wrote: > A friend of mine who runs a web hosting and anonymous ftp > server has been running 3.1 Release for about 2 months without > even so much as a reboot . The box is on a 100mbit connection > at a data center. He also has a shell service on the same box. > The box recently set a record for the amount > of data served from any client at the data center. The second closest > client which has a whole room full of SGI and SUN machines was > only using about half as much data. >=20 > The machine is a P2-450 with x3 16 GIG IBM ide drives > and 512 meg ram. >=20 > He has just changed another box in a different country to FreeBSD > 3.2 release from Solaris 2.7 ( x86 ) because of problems. It is now > running 3.2 Release and everything seams great. Solaris 2.7 dosent > like ide drives over 8 gig which isnt good considering IBM make 22 gig > IDE drives now. >=20 > Andrew I too agree that 3.1 was Very stable and 3.2 for most things seems to be O= K so far as I have used it for many things at the ISP I work for. However I hav= e come across a reproducable problem with 3.2. just as Sergey has spoken abou= t, that does not seem to occur in 3.1. I am testing the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching server. The size = of the processes that are used can grow quite large and are multithreaded.=20 I have found that if I set MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ too small (like 512*1024*102= 4) I can make the server page fault and reboot by making it work hard. (IE make = the process grow) SO far a setting of (2*1024*1024*1024) for both seems to be quite stable u= nder .any load, but it seems unsettling that rather than kill a process that is demanding too much memory, the kernel page faults. Especially since the pro= cess runs as a user process not as a system process. I am no expert on these things, but I welcome the assistance of anyone wil= ling to help identify the root of this problem to make FreeBSD more stable. Flam= es and put downs about a lack of detail or knowlege like I have seen so far, p= lease send to the linux list of choice to save us both some time please. I use FreeBSD as it is a professional OS with mostly professional people willing = to lend a hand. Thanks BTW Sergey, I realize that you may be frustrated, however sending messages= that are the next best thing to flame bait is not welcome. If you want assistanc= e, ask for it. Offline more information can be shared and the outcome shared w= ith the list. Nicole >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sergey > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? >=20 >=20 >> Hi! >> >> I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that >> 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration= . >> This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft= 's >> OSes gives significantly better results >> >> >> >> This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES >> any more... >> >> >> With best regards, Sergey. >> >> |\ __ /| (`\ | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 3:32: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E857F1565D for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by mailg.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22359; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28651; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:55 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Khaled Daham To: Sergey Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990525080129.24577.qmail@nym.alias.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 May 1999, Sergey wrote: > Please WRITE this with RED

font in Handbook. And you'll get 50 times > less problem reports. I don't catch this before your flame - thanks. Or when ppl join a mailing-list , point out the fact that handbook/faq/mail-archives should be consulted before mailing f.e , this past weeks have had quite a few mails regarding how to report crashes, and this could have been avoided if more people would know about that chapter in the handbook. And maybe if folks like mike smith and jkh could have pointed out the fact that Sergey should have looked in the handbook for an answer on how to debug and submit a proper error_report (imho this issue should be faq'ified too) , then we probably would have not seen all this flaming, or ? ps. Is the faq/handbook posted regularly in comp.unix.freebsd.misc ? .ds /Khaled, Telia Network Services <- running 3.1-REL on production machines without a crash for >2 months. Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 3:41: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8355015648 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07626; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13690; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA04271; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199905251040.DAA04271@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:40:28 -0700 In-Reply-To: Sergey "Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?" (May 25, 6:27am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: Sergey , "Mike Smith" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We upgraded our news server to the 3.0 branch just after the worst of the softupdates bugs were fixed (before 3.0-RELEASE), and it ran for months with problems. The only two times it was down were the time I shut it down to install another disk and the time I shut it down to upgrade to a newer version of 3.x so that I could use vinum. I had a couple of minor problems with the upgrade and one hang that was caused by a filesystem bug which was fixed around the time of 3.2-RELEASE. I also got bit by a lingering inetd bug which I tracked down to a longstanding bug in libutil. The current uptime is two weeks. I'm planning on upgrading to the latest -STABLE in the next week, since there are some bug fixes I'd like to pick up. On the other hand, we use some closed-source commercial software that costs well up into five figures, with an annual maintenance charge in the same neighborhood, and the vendor won't do squat about bugs unless you send in a reproduceable example of something that will break their software. If we're lucky, the bug will be fixed in the next release. We also have a Sun support contract. They never have fixed the bug that causes their X server to core dump. Instead they blame off on the vendor of the client that provokes the problem. There's nothing like losing a couple of hours of work on a random basis. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 3:43:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A15514C0B for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 03:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA14810 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 05:38:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525064325.00b69888@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:43:25 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: ftp server In-Reply-To: <199905250111.SAA00781@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:11 PM 5/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >I want to install an ftp server on a new 3.2 system, do I go with the >> >included or is another one? >> > >> >What's the name of the one that wcarchive.cdrom.com use? >> > >> >Thanks. >> > >> >Al >> >> "wu-ftpd", in the ports collection (/usr/ports/net/wu-ftpd/). OK OK, my bad. Shouldn't post when tired... I sure got put in my place! Not a bad ftp server though. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 4: 2:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998E6153AD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00986; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:01:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00974; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:00:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199905251100.MAA00974@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Khaled Daham Cc: Sergey , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:55 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:00:55 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > ps. Is the faq/handbook posted regularly in comp.unix.freebsd.misc ? .ds > > /Khaled, Telia Network Services <- running 3.1-REL on production machines > without a crash for >2 months. > > Mail: khaled@telia.net > Cell: 070-6785492 > Work: 08-4567281 > > :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] Heh, either you're joking or you don't read c.u.b.f.m ! There are several FAQs posted regularily there, none of which are the FreeBSD FAQ. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 4:50:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C7C15025 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08861 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:50:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990525075210.0465a180@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:00:42 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> References: <199905250541.WAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:53 AM 5/25/99 , David Schwartz wrote: > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD >without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad >releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus >'company supported' puzzle. NT out of the box needs to be patched for performance and security reasons. No matter what OS you deploy, you must follow the development so to speak... Even if only for security reasons. Yes, it would be nice in a perfect world if this were not the case. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 5:42: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop-serv1.customersvc.com (pop-serv1.customersvc.com [208.135.116.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0833D14EE6 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 05:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jacobsm@customersvc.com) Received: from bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com ([168.161.131.229]) by pop-serv1.customersvc.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-29023U510) with SMTP id AAA351 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:45:11 -0400 From: jacobsm@customersvc.com (Mark Jacobs) Organization: Time Customer Service To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:43:07 -0400 Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: <4.1.19990525075210.0465a180@granite.sentex.ca> References: <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: <19990525124511140.AAA351@bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 01:53 AM 5/25/99 , David Schwartz wrote: > > > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > >without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > >releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus > >'company supported' puzzle. > > NT out of the box needs to be patched for performance and security reasons. > No matter what OS you deploy, you must follow the development so to > speak... Even if only for security reasons. Yes, it would be nice in a > perfect world if this were not the case. > > ---Mike > ********************************************************************** > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > Canada * > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message In my "real job" I am a MVS (now OS/390) systems programmer responsible for maintaing an operating system and other related program products. The software that ships out of the box (i.e. release) is obsolete upon arrival. That is just a fact of life in a huge operating system. Depending on how often I apply service, I could have many hundred to many thousand software changes to apply. Users don't care about operating system changes, in fact they fight them (why do we have to test?), but we as system administrators are responsible for maintaining the best operating system we can, and that requires work on our part. Mark Jacobs MVS/JES2 Systems Programmer Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL ------------------------------------------------------ "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Army Last Words, 1864 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6: 2:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spooky.rwwa.com (rwwa.com [198.115.177.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD58E15693 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:02:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from spooky.rwwa.com (localhost.rwwa.com [127.0.0.1]) by spooky.rwwa.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06131; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:00:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <199905251300.JAA06131@spooky.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mike Smith Cc: Sergey , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 May 1999 22:41:29 PDT." <199905250541.WAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:00:53 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike@smith.net.au said: :- We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch :- before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not :- willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to :- be ignored at the very least. Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? Seems like a good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs. An equally good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs is to demand, for every bug report, that the reporter upgrade to some other version of the OS, or suffer the problem report being ignored and discarded. And this seems to be the common practice. It is probably just my naivety (I've only been doing this for 30 years) but it seems to me a better approach would be to welcome and encourage bug reports against -RELEASE. And, should it be the case that the problem is fixed in -STABLE or -CURRENT, cheerfully inform the reporter of that fact, leaving it up to the reporter to decide if upgrading makes sense. Assuming that fixing the bugs is the goal. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6:17:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D93E15648 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00051; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:17:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11448; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:14:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA68094; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:16:59 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:16:59 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990525161659.A68052@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net>; from Sergey on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 05:37:06AM -0000 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 05:37:06AM -0000, Sergey wrote: > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > OSes gives significantly better results Allow me to say that I cannot agree with you. I have two machines that get rebooted only when the power (and the UPS) fail. Very classic configuration also: 3.0-R: Name/mail server for gr.eu.org, cy.eu.org, home.eu.org, thirio.irc.gr secondary for eu.org. This is a: CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (360.54-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183f9ff> 3.1-R: (now 3.2-R) My desktop is a: CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.47-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf The only reboots they had was only when the UPS died (and when *I* typed reboot). Either check your HW or your kernel config. -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE35015648 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id JAA19174; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma018753; Tue, 25 May 99 09:23:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: <19990525053706.15157.qmail@nym.alias.net> To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not upgrade to -STABLE and solve the problem? I also had panics under 3.1-RELEASE, but they were all fixed within one week of -STABLE upgrades. SB On Tue, 25 May 1999, Sergey wrote: > Hi! > > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > any more... > > > With best regards, Sergey. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6:31:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6374156EC for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id JAA25719; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma025504; Tue, 25 May 99 09:31:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:31:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: <199905250635.XAA00767@dingo.cdrom.com> To: Mike Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > You claim to have read the list archives; they are full of explanations > of the debugging process. > Actually, I agree with everything you've said up until this point. My question of last week dealt specifically with this topic, and has remained unanswered. It was a repeat of a similar question I asked approx. 2 months ago, again with no responses. I've looked for material but haven't found anything that deals specifically with interpreting debugger output. I'm willing to put together a debugging FAQ as soon as I know myself how to do it. The message from last week is included below in the hopes that someone paying attention to this thread could point me in the right direction. Thanks. SB ---included message--- [ headers omitted ] On Fri, 21 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: [ stuff about configuring a kernel with -g and setting dump deleted ] > > Then the next time you have a panic, the information necessary to debug > the problem wil be available. > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) Sorry for the (silly?) question, but what next? I've done all of this, and am still clueless as to how to access/analyze/whatever a crashdump when something happens. Right now I just drop into the debugger on panic/fault, with no idea what to do next. I usually just type "panic" and the machine seems to reboot. (I've read the ddb manpage, not even sure whether it's the right thing to read, as the "panic" command isn't documented there.) Is there a tutorial on how to analyze crashdumps? If not, would someone familiar with the process please share his/her knowledge? The next time something bad happens, I'd like to post with some meaningful information and avoid the "you haven't given us enough information" speeches. Thanks. SB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6:34:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B26FA15718 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 25 May 1999 13:34:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: "Robert Withrow" Cc: References: <199905251300.JAA06131@spooky.rwwa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have said clearly what I tried to say... Thanks, Sergey. > > mike@smith.net.au said: > :- We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch > :- before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not > :- willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to > :- be ignored at the very least. > > Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports > for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? Seems like a good way > to ensure the non-fixing of bugs. > > An equally good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs is to demand, > for every bug report, that the reporter upgrade to some other version > of the OS, or suffer the problem report being ignored and discarded. > And this seems to be the common practice. > > It is probably just my naivety (I've only been doing this for 30 years) > but it seems to me a better approach would be to welcome and encourage > bug reports against -RELEASE. And, should it be the case that the problem > is fixed in -STABLE or -CURRENT, cheerfully inform the reporter of that > fact, leaving it up to the reporter to decide if upgrading makes sense. > Assuming that fixing the bugs is the goal. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 6:59:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF5214C24 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id PAA14021 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id PAA26878 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id PAA00387 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199905251359.PAA00387@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> Subject: Stability To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:17 +0200 (CEST) Lab: L.P.T.H.E. Universite Paris VI, Tour 16, 1 etage PARIS 75005 Tel: (33) 1 44 27 73 98 Fax: (33) 1 44 27 70 88 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG May i add my own story to the instability question? I have run FreeBSD for several years without any problem. I first ran 2.2.5, then upgraded via source to 2.2.8-STABLE, then to 3.0 via the RELEASE cdrom, then via source to 3.1-STABLE and today to 3.2-STABLE. I had never noticed any unexpected reboot. But today my machine paniced TWO times. First while i was upgrading another machine through an NFS mounted /usr/src /usr/obj, my desktop ran out of MBUFS and rebooted. I had done that previously without incurring this penalty. I must confess that i have the stock maxusers 32 but this never previously made such a problem. It seems that now the mbufs consumption is bigger and one needs to increase the 32 which is still in the GENERIC kernel. Needless to say the load on my desktop is small, it is not a high volume server. Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy problem is still there. Namelly dd something to a write-protected floppy. The answer is still the same, namely instant panic. Of course it is too easy to try to mount a protected floppy and try to write on it. This should never produce a panic. The problem was a bug report but has not been adressed. I should like to comment that such things which where common in old Linux distributions should not occur on the STABLE branch of a serious and efficient system like FreeBSD. I think that correcting such bugs is in my opinion more important that producing 4 releases a year. Of course i understand that Linux makes rapid progress, and closes the gap to FreeBSD, but is it releasing buggy software in the same way as its competitor that BSD is going to catch up? In the past i was tired of the Linux story: upgrade kernel, upgrade modutils, upgrade libc, and so on recursively and was greatly impressed by FreeBSD stability. I would like that this quality remains one of the major diffs with Linux. Best regards to the marvelous team producing the BSD system. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 7: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet1.g5.co.za (mail.g5.co.za [196.38.184.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC6214C24 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:02:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisb@g5.co.za) Received: from is99-cbedford.g5.co.za (IS99_CBEDFORD [192.6.1.133]) by inet1.g5.co.za with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id K0JT1XKK; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:43:26 +0200 Received: by is99-cbedford.g5.co.za with Microsoft Mail id <01BEA6C5.10117420@is99-cbedford.g5.co.za>; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:41:32 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEA6C5.10117420@is99-cbedford.g5.co.za> From: Christopher Bedford To: "'freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: FW: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:41:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>=20 >> NT out of the box needs to be patched for performance and security = reasons. >> No matter what OS you deploy, you must follow the development so to >> speak... Even if only for security reasons. Yes, it would be nice in = a >> perfect world if this were not the case. >>=20 >In my "real job" I am a MVS (now OS/390) systems programmer=20 >responsible for maintaing an operating system and other related=20 >program products. > >The software that ships out of the box (i.e. release) is obsolete=20 >upon arrival. That is just a fact of life in a huge operating system. >Depending on how often I apply service, I could have many hundred=20 >to many thousand software changes to apply. > >Users don't care about operating system changes, in fact they fight=20 >them (why do we have to test?), but we as system administrators=20 >are responsible for maintaining the best operating system we can,=20 >and that requires work on our part. Our company has run 5 to 8 HP3000 MPE computers for more than 12 years = (classis CISC machines upgraded appx 8 years ago to RISC versions). In = all that time I can recall 2 OS crashes, both ages ago on the CISC = versions. We have followed all of the major version releases of MPE V to = MPE XL to MPE/ix (not always immediately) but almost none of the minors. = The machines just keep running... no patches, no crap. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 7:16:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3218114F70 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA12197 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990525101533.00b94c00@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:15:33 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: FW: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <01BEA6C5.10117420@is99-cbedford.g5.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:41 PM 5/25/99 +0200, Christopher Bedford wrote: >Our company has run 5 to 8 HP3000 MPE computers for more than 12 years (classis CISC machines upgraded appx 8 years ago to RISC versions). In all that time I can recall 2 OS crashes, both ages ago on the CISC versions. We have followed all of the major version releases of MPE V to MPE XL to MPE/ix (not always immediately) but almost none of the minors. The machines just keep running... no patches, no crap. > Yes, but you could also run an older version of FreeBSD... no patches, no crap, no new features, no security fixes. MPE has one nice advantage of 'security through obscurity'... i.e. how many sites run publically exposed MPE machines on the Internet that allow the same amount of hacking/cracking to find bugs/holes. One of our internal servers, FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Tue Nov 4 16:20:42 EST 1997 devm: (4) uptime 10:12AM up 430 days, 19:28, 1 user, load averages: 0.29, 0.41, 0.40 Given the same time frame of development that MPE has, and the same amount of new features, I am sure FreeBSD could be made equally stable. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 7:16:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8ACE14C24 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:16:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA52384 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:18:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:18:50 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <3200.927612670@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > > without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > > releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus > > 'company supported' puzzle. [...] > If you're just downloading something off the net which represents an > ongoing moving target and you're working with volunteers who REQUIRE > precise and accurate bug reports in order to do anything at all useful > for you, however, then certain minimum standards in the user himself > must be met. Some users who "just want to use it" and not be bothered > to adapt to the unique non-commercial environment they're now in are > expecting far too much from too little personal investment, basically. Nevertheless many people here I have talked to seem to have an opinion on FreeBSD as something which is stable as a rock and changes very rarely. In other words, not a moving target but a solid foundation for server of any kind. It may sound funny that most of these people never used FreeBSD though (they all run/ran Linux). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 7:21:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A8B15783 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA94272; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:21:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Khaled Daham Cc: Sergey , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 25 May 1999 16:21:25 +0200 In-Reply-To: Khaled Daham's message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:55 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Khaled Daham writes: > And maybe if folks like mike smith and jkh could have pointed out the fact > that Sergey should have looked in the handbook for an answer on how to > debug and submit a proper error_report (imho this issue should be > faq'ified too) , then we probably would have not seen all this flaming, or "should be faqified"? Before giving us advice on what to put in the FAQ, it might do well to check what's already there, in section 13 of the FAQ list and section 22 of the handbook. DES (author of FAQ entries 13.13 and 13.15) -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 7:31:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F8E15765 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@mailbox.telia.net) Received: from mailbox.telia.net (khaled@mailbox.telia.net [194.237.170.234]) by mailg.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12531; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:31:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (khaled@localhost) by mailbox.telia.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28134; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:31:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Khaled Daham To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Sergey , Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Khaled Daham writes: > > And maybe if folks like mike smith and jkh could have pointed out the fact > > that Sergey should have looked in the handbook for an answer on how to > > debug and submit a proper error_report (imho this issue should be > > faq'ified too) , then we probably would have not seen all this flaming, or > > "should be faqified"? Before giving us advice on what to put in the > FAQ, it might do well to check what's already there, in section 13 of > the FAQ list and section 22 of the handbook. Ah I missed the FAQ entry (Its fairly new). sorry! btw is there really an us/you side ? > DES (author of FAQ entries 13.13 and 13.15) > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > /Khaled, Telia Network Services Mail: khaled@telia.net Cell: 070-6785492 Work: 08-4567281 :hacker: /n./ [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 8: 4: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7799315782; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA04316; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:06:32 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda04314; Tue May 25 08:06:16 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA33951; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905251503.IAA33951@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdz33940; Tue May 25 08:03:08 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , dg@root.com, Cliff Skolnick , Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 May 1999 20:04:47 PDT." <199905220304.UAA69597@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:03:08 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199905220304.UAA69597@apollo.backplane.com>, Matthew Dillon writes: > :Would plan B risk corruption of any data? Could itself be the likely > :cause of any potential panics? > : > :Assuming plan B has no major risks, this might be a temporary > :workaround until we can wrap our minds around this one. It's just a > :rework of Luoqi's patch, just in case we want to try plan B again. > : > :--- kern_lock.c.orig Tue May 11 08:34:52 1999 > :+++ kern_lock.c Wed May 12 05:38:52 1999 > :@@ -215,7 +215,9 @@ > : * lock itself ). > : */ > : if (lkp->lk_lockholder != pid) { > :- if (p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) { > :+ if ((p->p_flag & P_DEADLKTREAT) || > :+ ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_SHARE_NONZERO) != 0 && > :+ (flags & LK_CANRECURSE) != 0) { > : error = acquire( > : lkp, > : extflags, > : > :If this workaround doesn't work, then setting error = 0 and allowing > :the code to fall through to the subsequent sharelock may be our only > :choice for now. > : > :The other point I wish to make for all on this list is that Matt's > :patch fixes a read()/mmap() deadlock. It doesn't fix a write()/mmap() > :deadlock. > : > : > :Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > :Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > > It's an interesting workaround, but a bit too complex. That is, the > locking is becoming a too complex. We are going to screw ourselves if > we keep patching it. ... I came to the same conclusion last week. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 8:20: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cybersites.com (unknown [207.92.123.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E37714CA7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) Received: from f8m7n1 (dhcp77.cybersites.com [207.92.123.77]) by ns1.cybersites.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01957; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:14:14 -0400 Message-ID: <004501bea6c1$47210d80$4d7b5ccf@f8m7n1> From: "Chuck Youse" To: "Mike Smith" , "Robert Withrow" Cc: "Sergey" , Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:14:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that Mike's objection was to the rudeness and ignorance displayed in the original mail. "3.1 RELEASE sucks, and you guys suck, and damn, NT is more stable than this crap ..." is the basic essence of said message. Nevermind the fact that 3.1 Release is obsolete, and that 3.2 Release fixes a great many known bugs in the previous 3.x releases. Next time I get on the soapbox to bitch about Microsoft products, I suppose I'll point out the shortcomings of NT 3.51, or 4.0 minus any service packs. That seems fair enough if we play the game that way. The nature of open-source software is dual; sure, you get a product for free, and generally it's of good quality. FreeBSD releases have been of very good quality over the years -- and considering the major architectural changes that took place between 2.x and 3.x, I'm amazed that 3.2 is as stable as it is. The flip side, however, is that sometimes there are problems, and there's no guarantee that _your_ problems will be given priority. Quite frankly, if you're not involved in the development process, there's no reason to give your problems priority, either. People often lose sight of the fact that this work, FreeBSD, is not something that they are entitled to. We owe the CSRG and the FreeBSD core team (and, to a lesser extent the NetBSD and OpenBSD teams) nothing but our deepest gratitude for sharing the product of their hundreds of thousands of hours of work with us. If something doesn't work right all the time, then for heaven's sake, let them know, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Chuck Youse Director of Systems cyouse@cybersites.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert Withrow To: Mike Smith Cc: Sergey ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? > >mike@smith.net.au said: >:- We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch >:- before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not >:- willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to >:- be ignored at the very least. > >Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports >for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? Seems like a good way >to ensure the non-fixing of bugs. > >An equally good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs is to demand, >for every bug report, that the reporter upgrade to some other version >of the OS, or suffer the problem report being ignored and discarded. >And this seems to be the common practice. > >It is probably just my naivety (I've only been doing this for 30 years) >but it seems to me a better approach would be to welcome and encourage >bug reports against -RELEASE. And, should it be the case that the problem >is fixed in -STABLE or -CURRENT, cheerfully inform the reporter of that >fact, leaving it up to the reporter to decide if upgrading makes sense. >Assuming that fixing the bugs is the goal. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 9:10:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles535.castles.com [208.214.165.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02991513D for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03532; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905251606.JAA03532@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Robert Withrow Cc: Mike Smith , Sergey , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 09:00:53 EDT." <199905251300.JAA06131@spooky.rwwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:06:27 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > mike@smith.net.au said: > :- We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch > :- before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not > :- willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to > :- be ignored at the very least. > > Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports > for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? Seems like a good way > to ensure the non-fixing of bugs. Problem reports for -RELEASE versions are treated just like any other problem report. If they are timely, contain relevant information, and can be either reproduced or understood, they'll be acted upon. If, however, the "problem report" is just a complaint about how hopeless we are for letting a bug slip into a -RELEASE version, or if it's a complaint about code that is many months old, the report will be ignored, yes. What else could we do about it? > An equally good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs is to demand, > for every bug report, that the reporter upgrade to some other version > of the OS, or suffer the problem report being ignored and discarded. > And this seems to be the common practice. The alternative is unworkable. We have a massive development and support load, and very limited resources to apply to it. If we attempted to support every release we've ever put out, we'd never get any development done. It's also quite likely that a bug that someone has encountered in old code has _already_been_fixed_. There are to ways to determine this: - Diagnose the problem; potentially taking hours or days of developer time, depending on how supportive and clueful the plaintiff is. - Have the plaintiff upgrade to the most recent revision on their branch. One of these methods imposes a very high developer cost, the other none at all. Both require about the same amount of effort on the plaintiff's part. Guess which one is more efficient? > It is probably just my naivety (I've only been doing this for 30 years) > but it seems to me a better approach would be to welcome and encourage > bug reports against -RELEASE. And, should it be the case that the problem > is fixed in -STABLE or -CURRENT, cheerfully inform the reporter of that > fact, leaving it up to the reporter to decide if upgrading makes sense. > Assuming that fixing the bugs is the goal. We do welcome and encourage detailed and informative problem reports. We do not encourage content-free complaints of any sort. Has the distinction sunk in yet? -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 9:57:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A3814CD5 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id RAA16649; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13983; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905251523.RAA13983@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Stability In-Reply-To: <199905251359.PAA00387@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> from Michel TALON at "May 25, 1999 3:59:17 pm" To: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Michel TALON wrote ... > May i add my own story to the instability question? > Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy > problem is still there. Namelly dd something to a write-protected > floppy. The answer is still the same, namely instant panic. > Of course it is too easy to try to mount a protected floppy and > try to write on it. This should never produce a panic. The problem > was a bug report but has not been adressed. Like: su-2.02# dd if=/kernel of=/dev/rfd0 dd: /dev/rfd0: Input/output error 1+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 1.121269 secs (0 bytes/sec) su-2.02# On the console: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 (No status) This is 3.2 as of May 13 (sic..) For curiosity's sake I'll rebuild a kernel based on yesterdays supped source and re-try the experiment. Wilko | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 9:57:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BB315098 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id RAA16654; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15405; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905251530.RAA15405@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: from Seth at "May 25, 1999 9:23:12 am" To: seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org (Seth) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:30:41 +0200 (CEST) Cc: serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Seth wrote ... > Why not upgrade to -STABLE and solve the problem? I also had panics under > 3.1-RELEASE, but they were all fixed within one week of -STABLE upgrades. I agree this may fix it. But it does not address the original point of Sergey: why should I need to go for V.next if I just got my V.today with -RELEASE stamped on it? Mind you, there are more than enough answers to that question. One of the major ones is the fact that FreeBSD is a volunteer effort. We don't have paid people to test it on a gazillion different hardware platforms. If you think that is not relevant: I used to work with the SCO Unix source base and the amount of comment on hardware quirks is considerable to say the least. No instant answers I guess,. > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Sergey wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > > any more... > > > > > > With best regards, Sergey. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 10:18:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mark.kingsu.ab.ca (mark.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E42E14FBF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Received: from KingsU.ab.ca (kingsnet.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.33]) by mark.kingsu.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA77623 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:18:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199905251718.LAA77623@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Received: from KINGSNET/SpoolDir by KingsU.ab.ca (Mercury 1.44); 25 May 99 11:18:53 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by KINGSNET (Mercury 1.44); 25 May 99 11:18:42 -0700 From: "Broderick Wood" Organization: The King's University College To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:18:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: <199905251530.RAA15405@yedi.iaf.nl> References: from Seth at "May 25, 1999 9:23:12 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.10) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My one comment on this is as folows... If you think the -RELEASE line is stable, why do they have a - STABLE version? In my mind simple logic dictates that -RELEASE means latest version, kind of like Win2000. Whereas -STABLE is a MORE STAVLE version with at least MOST of the knoen issues taken care of. At least with FreeBSD you have this option. With M$ it's ALL - RELEASE versions. I am only now using Win95 (last 2 years) in a production environment so that at least I know what the errors are gonna be... My 2 cents worth... > > Why not upgrade to -STABLE and solve the problem? I also had panics > > under 3.1-RELEASE, but they were all fixed within one week of -STABLE > > upgrades. > > I agree this may fix it. But it does not address the original point of > Sergey: why should I need to go for V.next if I just got my V.today with > -RELEASE stamped on it? --------------------------- -BMW- Don't just stand there! Pray something! (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca) Broderick Wood, Director of Information Technology Services The King's University College 9125 - 50 Street Edmonton, Alberta T6B 2H3 (780) 465-8315 (780) 465-3534 (FAX) ><> <>< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 10:31:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8A8E14F05 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 4324 invoked by uid 1001); 25 May 1999 17:31:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Seth , serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <199905251530.RAA15405@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > As Seth wrote ... > > > Why not upgrade to -STABLE and solve the problem? I also had panics under > > 3.1-RELEASE, but they were all fixed within one week of -STABLE upgrades. > > I agree this may fix it. But it does not address the original point of > Sergey: why should I need to go for V.next if I just got my V.today with > -RELEASE stamped on it? > > Mind you, there are more than enough answers to that question. One of the > major ones is the fact that FreeBSD is a volunteer effort. We don't have > paid people to test it on a gazillion different hardware platforms. > > If you think that is not relevant: I used to work with the SCO Unix source > base and the amount of comment on hardware quirks is considerable to say the > least. > > No instant answers I guess,. I'm leaving Sergey's original in place so everyone can reread it. From the vast amount of information he gives (and has given in subsequent followups) what alternate advice can anyone give him? 3.2-R happened ten days ago, so if he got V.today or even V.yesterday he'd be using 3.2. There is no mention to the hardware used or even what other software he's using. How about what he's doing when it fails? Is he by chance overclocking? Who knows? In another post he says it's up to the developers to ask him questions. If he doesn't want to volunteer the conditions surrounding the problems he's having with an OS that came out a few months ago, the only answer can be to upgrade to the current version. > > > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Sergey wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > > > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > > > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > > > OSes gives significantly better results > > > > > > > > > > > > This is mourning day for me - I CAN'T believe in stability of RELEASES > > > any more... > > > > > > > > > With best regards, Sergey. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 10:58:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6290E157F3 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA22525; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:39:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00461; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:37:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905251537.RAA00461@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Stability In-Reply-To: <199905251359.PAA00387@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> from Michel TALON at "May 25, 1999 3:59:17 pm" To: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Michel TALON wrote ... > Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy > problem is still there. Namelly dd something to a write-protected > floppy. The answer is still the same, namely instant panic. > Of course it is too easy to try to mount a protected floppy and > try to write on it. This should never produce a panic. The problem > was a bug report but has not been adressed. OK, like I promised: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Tue May 25 17:26:33 CEST 1999 root@yedi.iaf.nl:/usr/freebsd-3.1-stable-src/src/sys/compile/YEDI i386 su-2.02# dd if=/kernel of=/dev/rfd0 dd: /dev/rfd0: Input/output error 1+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 1.115247 secs (0 bytes/sec) su-2.02# No panic. NREP as far as I can see. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 11:42:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89DF14BDA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:41:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at) Received: from markab (markab [128.130.111.33]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24590; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:41:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:41:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS In-Reply-To: <0ec001bea164$077d3440$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 May 1999, Robert J. Adams wrote: > Just wondering if the NFS fixes that were applied to -current were > backported to 3.2? Which fixes do you have in mind? (Unfortunately, none answered your questions, but I'm curious myself.) Gerald -- Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 11:56:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.kiev.sovam.com (news.kiev.sovam.com [194.186.143.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48AA15AD0 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail@news.kiev.sovam.com) Received: from mail by news.kiev.sovam.com with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mMNP-0008Cb-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:56:35 +0300 From: gw-bsd-stable@news.kiev.sovam.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: Vladimir Litovka Subject: Re: Stability Date: 25 May 1999 18:56:34 GMT Message-ID: <7ierp2$up4$1@news.kiev.sovam.com> X-Organization: Sovam Teleport Kiev (post does not reflect views of Sovam Teleport) X-Gated-By: news2list v1.0-b1, (c) Vladimir Litovka X-Gated-Date: Tue May 25 21:56:35 EEST 1999 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: >> Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy >> problem is still there. > > FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Tue May 25 17:26:33 CEST 1999 root@yedi.iaf.nl:/usr/freebsd-3.1-stable-src/src/sys/compile/YEDI i386 [ ... ] > No panic. NREP as far as I can see. FreeBSD 3.2-19990522-STABLE: when dd'ing /kernel to write protected floppy, it doesn't panic, but I can't kill this process in any way and this process doesn't finish in reasonable time. I waited about 10 minutes and then rebooted computer - it couldn't correctly shutdown, said "Syncing disks" and rebooted. After restart it said that / wasn't properly dismounted. Almost panic, without panic message... While dd'ing it logs lots of information about this process, something similar to: cdrw /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-3 (No status) ^^^^^^^^ and this for all source's size space and then, without pause: cdrw /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-3 (ST0 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1) And again and again and again... Infinite loop. Not good, as for me. Ok. dd'ing boot.flp (2949120 bytes) to write protected 1.44 fd gives such result: dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 dd: /dev/fd0: end of device 358+0 records in 358+0 records out 182784 bytes transferred in 49.324598 secs (3706 bytes/sec) ^^^^^^ Note transferred size. Even not 1.44Mb... and then panic with message: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs Third test: dd'ing boot.flp to write enabled 1.44Mb floppy is correct - 2881+0 records in, 2880+0 records out. BUT! When used bs=8192, FreeBSD hanged immediately. And last: quite unexpected behaviour when eject diskette from drive while dd'ing to it something. In my case it was panic with message: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 84 of 84-87 (No status) fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs syncing disk... 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 giving up Automatic reboot in 15 seconds ... ... So, work with FDD still unstable in FreeBSD 3.x -- doka To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 12:23:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-in2.inet.tele.dk (mail-in2.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6073B15A5F for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morten@seeberg.dk) Received: (qmail 18452 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 19:22:52 -0000 Received: from gw.danadata.com (HELO tp) (194.239.79.3) by mail-in2.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 25 May 1999 19:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <012501bea6e4$0ac3a1e0$9c0d010a@tp.swamp.dk> From: "Morten Seeberg" To: Subject: Error in 3.2-RELEASE GENERIC Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just compiled apm into the kernel on my laptop, and i found a little error in the GENERIC file. GENERIC says: device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 The right syntax for this, according to LINT (the above doesnīt work either when running config) is: device apm0 at isa? flags 0x0010 #APM v. 1.0 or device apm0 at isa? flags 0x0011 #APM v. 1.1 The flag is wrong(?), and the disable/enable command causes config to fail this line. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ /\/\orten $eeberg, Systems Consultant @ Merkantildata CMA Enterprise Sollutions #echo 'System Administrators suck :)' > /dev/console To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 12:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6201581A for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA051904951; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:09:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: David Schwartz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am saying that he > provided enough information to identify the problem class. "Doctor, I don't feel good." - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 12:36:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7523152CA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.128]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA59B3; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:36:25 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA59696; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:36:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990525062717.30031.qmail@nym.alias.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:36:25 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-May-99 Sergey wrote: > I've found a lot of problems in PR and archives. They are old dated and > looking as dead for monthes - no audit trail, no discussion. Thanks for just pressing Sheldon Hearn into the dirt. >> If you want to see future releases perform better than the one you're >> whining about now, I suggest you get busy contributing something more >> useful than your current load of hot air. >> > I'm ready, I want, but I don't understand how!!! I can claim about > problem, I can reproduce it, I can give you more info.... Even more I > can start tracing if you give me hints! Ever heard of basic debugging? Ye cannot expect a developer to have every ill-damned configuration availble out there to test it on. YOUR hardware is doing something which the kernel doesn't like, or vice versa, so debug it at YOUR site. After you have done some basic ddb'ing, gdb'ing, tracing, trussing, etc, then bother developers for more information. It may sound hard, but in these last 8-12 months I really understand what the -current developers where telling me in the first place. > *** But how can I do something if YOU just ignore issue ??? *** By reading up on debugging obviously. Saying that you aren't a developer is no excuse to just shove the responsibility towards the developers. Heck, if their box works, should they even care about _your_ box? In theory they wouldn't have to, in reality they do. Mike, Jordan, Doug (both of them ;), W. Gerald, John, Eivind, David, etc etc all helped me a lot with my endeavours on CURRENT and what-not. And by their encouragements I also got more involved in the total process which reflects back into better reports on my side. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 12:43:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A226154BA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:43:01 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: "Bill Fumerola" Cc: Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <001101bea6e6$cc949110$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > > I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am > saying that he > > provided enough information to identify the problem class. > > "Doctor, I don't feel good." My vet considers this an adequate problem report. :) DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 12:54:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FE614E47 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA064316766; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:39:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:39:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: David Schwartz Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <001101bea6e6$cc949110$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > "Doctor, I don't feel good." > > My vet considers this an adequate problem report. :) Your vet doesn't try and diagnose your pet via a fax, either. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 13: 5: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC505158EC for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA51779; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:04:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:04:42 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Nicole Harrington Cc: Andrew , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Sergey Subject: Re: kernel panic in 3.2 WAS Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > On 25-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Andrew wrote: > > A friend of mine who runs a web hosting and anonymous ftp > > server has been running 3.1 Release for about 2 months without > > even so much as a reboot . The box is on a 100mbit connection > > at a data center. He also has a shell service on the same box. > > The box recently set a record for the amount > > of data served from any client at the data center. The second closest > > client which has a whole room full of SGI and SUN machines was > > only using about half as much data. > > > > The machine is a P2-450 with x3 16 GIG IBM ide drives > > and 512 meg ram. > > > > He has just changed another box in a different country to FreeBSD > > 3.2 release from Solaris 2.7 ( x86 ) because of problems. It is now > > running 3.2 Release and everything seams great. Solaris 2.7 dosent > > like ide drives over 8 gig which isnt good considering IBM make 22 gig > > IDE drives now. > > > > Andrew > > I too agree that 3.1 was Very stable and 3.2 for most things seems to be OK so > far as I have used it for many things at the ISP I work for. However I have > come across a reproducable problem with 3.2. just as Sergey has spoken about, > that does not seem to occur in 3.1. > > I am testing the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching server. The size of > the processes that are used can grow quite large and are multithreaded. > I have found that if I set MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ too small (like 512*1024*1024) I > can make the server page fault and reboot by making it work hard. (IE make the > process grow) > > SO far a setting of (2*1024*1024*1024) for both seems to be quite stable under > .any load, but it seems unsettling that rather than kill a process that is > demanding too much memory, the kernel page faults. Especially since the process > runs as a user process not as a system process. > > I am no expert on these things, but I welcome the assistance of anyone willing > to help identify the root of this problem to make FreeBSD more stable. Flames > and put downs about a lack of detail or knowlege like I have seen so far, please > send to the linux list of choice to save us both some time please. I use > FreeBSD as it is a professional OS with mostly professional people willing to > lend a hand. What message is printed when the kernel page faults. If there is an instructions pointer in the message, use 'nm -n kernel' to find which function it crashed in. If possible, compile a kernel with DDB, run it until it crashes and get a backtrace. Getting a full kernel dump from a kernel compiled for debugging (use config -g CONFIG for this) is invaluable as it allows a developer to gather as much information as possible. Once you have a backtrace and/or a kernel dump, you need to get someone interested in fixing it. Find out roughly what part of the system is involved and see if you can figure out who worked on it last. If you talk to that person and provide them with all the information you have gathered, then you have a chance of getting a fix (or maybe only a workaround). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 13:11:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 781BD14BE7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:11:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 76843 invoked by uid 100); 25 May 1999 20:11:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 1999 20:11:13 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <001101bea6e6$cc949110$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > > > > I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am > > saying that he > > > provided enough information to identify the problem class. > > > > "Doctor, I don't feel good." > > My vet considers this an adequate problem report. :) So ship your system to a developer. Or does your vet do diagnosis & prescription by email? ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id FAA27987; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:28:08 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374AFD88.9E6D2C6E@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 04:44:08 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Seth Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Seth wrote: > > Actually, I agree with everything you've said up until this point. My > question of last week dealt specifically with this topic, and has remained > unanswered. It was a repeat of a similar question I asked approx. 2 > months ago, again with no responses. I've looked for material but haven't > found anything that deals specifically with interpreting debugger output. The handbook has a kernel debug session. If you get a panic, use that information. You need not actually interpret the output. That really requires lots of expertise, and knowledge of the code. We, developers, often post those outputs when we can't identify the bug ourselves, in the hope that other developers can. What we *do* need is that information. From there, someone might be able to ask for more specific information (which can be easily done if you have the dump saved). (Of course, I'm supposing you have read the often referred http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html page) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 13:28:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591F415C54 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:28:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id FAA27983; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:28:01 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374AF82C.2ED50D57@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 04:21:16 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Schwartz Cc: Mike Smith , Sergey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <000001bea672$dce52580$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Schwartz wrote: > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versus > 'company supported' puzzle. There is no real different between company supported and Open Source in this respect. When people claimed, way back, that Microsoft were releasing Beta-2 quality products as releases, they were just stating facts. Anyway, feel free to "just use". If you have a bug, though, upgrade first, and only *then*, if the bug persists, complain. What's the point of complaining about something fixed already? And if it is not fixed, how are we supposed to tell the difference between it, and something that *has* been fixed, if you are not using the latest stable? And don't come with the "company supported" stuff. Default procedure for technical support of any software house is to first get the user to apply fixes, and only then consider the possibility of new bug. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 14:16:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7117B14F87 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03341 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000801bea6f3$d194b480$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So what am I doing wrong? # cd /usr/src/sys/compile/dns1 # gdb -k kernel.debug GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. (kgdb) where No stack. (kgdb) Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 14:25:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA2D15311 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01253; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905252123.OAA01253@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:13 BST." <000801bea6f3$d194b480$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:23:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gdb -k kernel.0 --core vmcore.0 just to be sure. I think your kernel.debug might not match kernel.0 > So what am I doing wrong? > > # cd /usr/src/sys/compile/dns1 > # gdb -k kernel.debug > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 > (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 > kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. > (kgdb) where > No stack. > (kgdb) > > > > Greg > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 14:35:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from virtualia.combios.es (virtualia.combios.es [195.53.190.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1E7B158AE; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from callback@workmail.com) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (206.253.129.185) by virtualia.combios.es (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:32:59 +0200 Received: from workmail.com (36229.rad.bbv.es [195.235.36.229]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA18023; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:33:32 -0400 (EDT) From: callback@workmail.com Message-Id: <199905252133.RAA18023@pop01.globecomm.net> To: callback@workmail.com Subject: CAMBIO DE DIRECCION EMAIL Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Disculpe la intromisión. 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Related to with the system CallBack and system 800 (Virtual Cards) of IAS, they can to be laied at contact with our address main already knowed or with the following address info@callback.zzn.com Greetings -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EMAIL FREE AT NINE LANGUAGES AT http://callback.zzn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 14:51:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5483115AD2 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09480; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Robert Withrow Cc: Mike Smith , Sergey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 09:00:53 EDT." <199905251300.JAA06131@spooky.rwwa.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:50:49 -0700 Message-ID: <9476.927669049@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports > for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? No, you do not. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 14:59: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9757615ABD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09502; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Sergey Cc: "Robert Withrow" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "25 May 1999 13:34:22 -0000." <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:57:09 -0700 Message-ID: <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You have said clearly what I tried to say... I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. I hope that this serves as an illustrative lesson for others, if nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a similar response. Be nasty and whiny and you'll get a face full of sand and perhaps a warmer pair of pants than you're generally comfortable in. Such exchanges make neither side look very good and it's merely human nature for people to get upset when people try to advance their causes ("listen to meeee!!") in such a manner. I'll close this thread by noting also, for the record, that Sergey has not accomplished his goal here despite his previous assertions to the contrary. He hasn't gotten the help he needed and, what's worse, he's now on a bunch of people's shit lists so it's extremely unlikely, if not downright impossible, that he'll get any useful help in the future from any of us. I see Linux, and only Linux, in this man's future. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15: 2:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81625156DE for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09533; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Chuck Youse" Cc: "Mike Smith" , "Robert Withrow" , "Sergey" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 11:14:17 EDT." <004501bea6c1$47210d80$4d7b5ccf@f8m7n1> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:01:31 -0700 Message-ID: <9529.927669691@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you, this was an excellent summary of what pissed people off and what the attitude of people reporting problems *should* be. It also cuts both ways, folks. When we find a bug that has been around since the generic BSD 4.4 Lite sources were released, do you think we send nasty, indignant mails to Kirk McKusick demanding that he fix his unreliable, crappy code? Of course not. :-) Anyone who wants help from someone else who doesn't owe it to them has to be unfailingly polite, all the way up the chain, and that's just a basic law of human interaction. - Jordan > I think that Mike's objection was to the rudeness and ignorance displayed in > the original mail. "3.1 RELEASE sucks, and you guys suck, and damn, NT is > more stable than this crap ..." is the basic essence of said message. > > Nevermind the fact that 3.1 Release is obsolete, and that 3.2 Release fixes > a great many known bugs in the previous 3.x releases. Next time I get on > the soapbox to bitch about Microsoft products, I suppose I'll point out the > shortcomings of NT 3.51, or 4.0 minus any service packs. That seems fair > enough if we play the game that way. > > The nature of open-source software is dual; sure, you get a product for > free, and generally it's of good quality. FreeBSD releases have been of > very good quality over the years -- and considering the major architectural > changes that took place between 2.x and 3.x, I'm amazed that 3.2 is as > stable as it is. The flip side, however, is that sometimes there are > problems, and there's no guarantee that _your_ problems will be given > priority. Quite frankly, if you're not involved in the development process, > there's no reason to give your problems priority, either. > > People often lose sight of the fact that this work, FreeBSD, is not > something that they are entitled to. We owe the CSRG and the FreeBSD core > team (and, to a lesser extent the NetBSD and OpenBSD teams) nothing but our > deepest gratitude for sharing the product of their hundreds of thousands of > hours of work with us. If something doesn't work right all the time, then > for heaven's sake, let them know, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. > > Chuck Youse > Director of Systems > cyouse@cybersites.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Withrow > To: Mike Smith > Cc: Sergey ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 8:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? > > > > > >mike@smith.net.au said: > >:- We depend on our users to tell us about problems on the -stable branch > >:- before it's rolled into a release, not afterwards. If you're not > >:- willing to take part in this process, your complaints are likely to > >:- be ignored at the very least. > > > >Do I read this correctly as a policy statement that problem reports > >for -RELEASE are discouraged and ignored? Seems like a good way > >to ensure the non-fixing of bugs. > > > >An equally good way to ensure the non-fixing of bugs is to demand, > >for every bug report, that the reporter upgrade to some other version > >of the OS, or suffer the problem report being ignored and discarded. > >And this seems to be the common practice. > > > >It is probably just my naivety (I've only been doing this for 30 years) > >but it seems to me a better approach would be to welcome and encourage > >bug reports against -RELEASE. And, should it be the case that the problem > >is fixed in -STABLE or -CURRENT, cheerfully inform the reporter of that > >fact, leaving it up to the reporter to decide if upgrading makes sense. > >Assuming that fixing the bugs is the goal. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:15: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tim.Desert.NET (tim.Desert.NET [207.182.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD35150AF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@tim.Desert.NET) Received: (from tim@localhost) by tim.Desert.NET (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00549; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:14:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from tim) Message-ID: <19990525151449.F275@desert.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:14:49 -0700 From: Thimble Smith To: Broderick Wood , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <199905251530.RAA15405@yedi.iaf.nl> <199905251718.LAA77623@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199905251718.LAA77623@mark.kingsu.ab.ca>; from Broderick Wood on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 11:18:36AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 11:18:36AM -0600, Broderick Wood wrote: > In my mind simple logic dictates that -RELEASE means latest > version, kind of like Win2000. Not quite. At the time of release, -RELEASE and -STABLE are identical. Every effort is made to make sure that the release will work on a wide variety of hardware and configurations. A -RELEASE is packaged to make it easy to distribute and install; so, it can't be updated. -STABLE continues to be updated with well-tested fixes. The "latest version" of FreeBSD is called -CURRENT. It is not for the general public to use. It is important to realize that the -RELEASE is NOT the "latest" (implying "untested," "beta,") version. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE91314F51 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40324>; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:07:50 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:23:24 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99May26.080750est.40324@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to follow up to the original posters message: I've found that my floppy-disk caching program that I wrote for MS-DOS 1.22 does not work correctly on MS-DOS 1.25. Please send me a fix immediately. :-) Peter In the soon-to-be-defunct .au domain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:51:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1025B151AF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (chap-ppp0 [10.50.1.30]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03607; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:51:02 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:43:12 +0100 Message-ID: <01bea6ff$f8639660$0101a8c0@greg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope that didn't work.... the kernel.0 your referring to will not have any debug code.... but kernel.debug should. Yet that didn't work either. # cd /var/crash # ls bounds kernel.0 vmcore.0 # gdb -k kernel.0 --core vmcore.0 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... (no debugging symbols found)... kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. (kgdb) where No stack. (kgdb) q # ls -l total 132849 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2 May 25 13:14 bounds -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1733154 May 25 09:43 kernel.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 134217728 May 25 09:43 vmcore.0 # cd /usr/src/sys/compile/dns1 # ls -l kernel.debug -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8452403 May 24 06:19 kernel.debug I installed the kernel as follows: cp kernel kernel.debug strip -g kernel make install Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA10151AF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA06457; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05565; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:58:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905252158.XAA05565@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Stability In-Reply-To: <7ierp2$up4$1@news.kiev.sovam.com> from "gw-bsd-stable@news.kiev.sovam.com" at "May 25, 1999 6:56:34 pm" To: doka@triton.kiev.sovam.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:58:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As gw-bsd-stable@news.kiev.sovam.com wrote ... > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > >> Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy > >> problem is still there. > > > > FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Tue May 25 17:26:33 CEST 1999 root@yedi.iaf.nl:/usr/freebsd-3.1-stable-src/src/sys/compile/YEDI i386 > [ ... ] > > No panic. NREP as far as I can see. > > FreeBSD 3.2-19990522-STABLE: when dd'ing /kernel to write protected > floppy, it doesn't panic, but I can't kill this process in any way and In my case it exits immediately with an error. > this process doesn't finish in reasonable time. I waited about 10 > minutes and then rebooted computer - it couldn't correctly shutdown, said > "Syncing disks" and rebooted. After restart it said that / wasn't > properly dismounted. Almost panic, without panic message... > > While dd'ing it logs lots of information about this process, something > similar to: > > cdrw /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-3 (No status) > ^^^^^^^^ > and this for all source's size space It sure looks like your system's kernel can not tell the disk is write protected and tries to write. > and then, without pause: > > cdrw /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-3 (ST0 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1) Write protect detected after all. Strange.. > Ok. dd'ing boot.flp (2949120 bytes) to write protected 1.44 fd gives such > result: > > dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 > dd: /dev/fd0: end of device > 358+0 records in > 358+0 records out > 182784 bytes transferred in 49.324598 secs (3706 bytes/sec) > ^^^^^^ > Note transferred size. Even not 1.44Mb... > > and then panic with message: > > panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs Ah! Try: dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/rfd0 (note the rfd0 instead of the fd0) > Third test: dd'ing boot.flp to write enabled 1.44Mb floppy is correct > - 2881+0 records in, 2880+0 records out. BUT! When used bs=8192, FreeBSD > hanged immediately. > > And last: quite unexpected behaviour when eject diskette from drive while > dd'ing to it something. In my case it was panic with message: > > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 84 of 84-87 (No status) > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) > fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 81 of 80-83 (No status) > panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs > > syncing disk... 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 giving up > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds ... > ... > > So, work with FDD still unstable in FreeBSD 3.x I don't agree.. Start using the raw device and report back please. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:54:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871915ACC for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA06453; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05406; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:43:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905252143.XAA05406@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <001101bea6e6$cc949110$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> from David Schwartz at "May 25, 1999 12:43: 1 pm" To: davids@webmaster.com (David Schwartz) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Cc: billf@chc-chimes.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As David Schwartz wrote ... > > On Mon, 24 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > > > > I'm not saying any of these solution will work, but I am > > saying that he > > > provided enough information to identify the problem class. > > > > "Doctor, I don't feel good." > > My vet considers this an adequate problem report. :) You know what vets do when they decide they can't fix it anymore do you? ;-) | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:56:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3DB15B72 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id AAA06456; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05453; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:46:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905252146.XAA05453@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <374AF82C.2ED50D57@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "May 26, 1999 4:21:16 am" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Cc: davids@webmaster.com, mike@smith.net.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Daniel C. Sobral wrote ... > David Schwartz wrote: > first, and only *then*, if the bug persists, complain. What's the > point of complaining about something fixed already? And if it is not > fixed, how are we supposed to tell the difference between it, and > something that *has* been fixed, if you are not using the latest > stable? > > And don't come with the "company supported" stuff. Default procedure > for technical support of any software house is to first get the user > to apply fixes, and only then consider the possibility of new bug. There is one detail I miss: most commercial products are supported by supplying limited scale fixes (OK, sometime a *lot* of them) instead of a wholesale upgrade. Not that I advocate starting a patch circus like most of the commercial folks mind you! Just an observation. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 15:59:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD71158BF for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1/IP-3) with UUCP id CAA31156; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:54:50 +0400 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA01961; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:59:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199905252259.CAA01961@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:13 BST." <000801bea6f3$d194b480$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:59:30 +0400 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg Quinlan" wrote: > So what am I doing wrong? > > # cd /usr/src/sys/compile/dns1 > # gdb -k kernel.debug > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 > (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 > kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. > (kgdb) where > No stack. > (kgdb) Unfortunately, some changes that was only appropriate for -current slipped to 3.2. It should be fixed now. Update your sources and recompile gdb. Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:14:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85603157A2 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01848; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905252310.QAA01848@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 23:43:12 BST." <01bea6ff$f8639660$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:10:47 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Nope that didn't work.... the kernel.0 your referring to will not have any > debug code.... but kernel.debug should. Yet that didn't work either. I typically just install the debug kernel, so that all the kernels in the dump area contain debug symbols. > # cd /var/crash > # ls > bounds kernel.0 vmcore.0 > > # gdb -k kernel.0 --core vmcore.0 > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > (no debugging symbols found)... > kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. > (kgdb) where > No stack. > (kgdb) q Weird. I can only wonder if there's a problem with dumps taken on SMP systems; everything else ought to work. You might want to poke Doug Rabson just in case something broke in the recent gdb changes. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:38:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC6714CA7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA96367; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:38:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: "Morten Seeberg" Cc: Subject: Re: Error in 3.2-RELEASE GENERIC References: <012501bea6e4$0ac3a1e0$9c0d010a@tp.swamp.dk> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 26 May 1999 01:38:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Morten Seeberg"'s message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:17 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Morten Seeberg" writes: > GENERIC says: > device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 > [...] > The flag is wrong(?), and the disable/enable command causes config to fail > this line. The flags are correct. Read LINT. The 'disable' is there because we don't normally want apm, but we want laptop users to be able to enable it without recompiling their kernel. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:41: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BEB14CA7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA96386; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:40:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp server References: <3.0.3.32.19990525064325.00b69888@mail.embt.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 26 May 1999 01:40:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: Tom Embt's message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 06:43:25 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom Embt writes: > Not a bad ftp server though. Depends on how you define 'not bad'. New root exploits for wuftpd are posted nearly weekly on BUGTRAQ. I wouldn't trust it further than I could throw a sixteen ton block of cement. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:45: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B04614FA7 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA60015; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199905252346.JAA60015@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: ftp server In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "May 26, 1999 1:40:51 am" To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:48 +1000 (EST) Cc: tom@embt.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +----[ Dag-Erling Smorgrav ]--------------------------------------------- | Tom Embt writes: | > Not a bad ftp server though. | | Depends on how you define 'not bad'. New root exploits for wuftpd are | posted nearly weekly on BUGTRAQ. I wouldn't trust it further than I | could throw a sixteen ton block of cement. Hrm don't Scandanavians hold the record for hurling big, heavy inanimate objects? :-) -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | Milton ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 |72 Col .Sig PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:55: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518F115342 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA96471; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:54:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Andrew Kenneth Milton Cc: tom@embt.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp server References: <199905252346.JAA60015@mail.theinternet.com.au> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 26 May 1999 01:54:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: Andrew Kenneth Milton's message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:48 +1000 (EST)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Kenneth Milton writes: > Hrm don't Scandanavians hold the record for hurling big, heavy inanimate > objects? :-) Um, no, you're confusing us with scots. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:57:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112FA154AA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.reilly@lake.com.au) Received: from m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20]) by m4.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA05788 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:57:09 +1000 (EST) X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-From: a.reilly@lake.com.au X-BPC-Relay-Envelope-To: X-BPC-Relay-Sender-Host: m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au [24.192.3.20] X-BPC-Relay-Info: Message delivered directly. Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-24-192-48-172.nsw.bigpond.net.au [24.192.48.172]) by m5.c2.telstra-mm.net.au (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA01478 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:57:08 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 46601 invoked by uid 1000); 25 May 1999 23:57:08 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:57:08 +1000 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , davids@webmaster.com, mike@smith.net.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990526095708.A46532@gurney.reilly.home> References: <374AF82C.2ED50D57@newsguy.com> <199905252146.XAA05453@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905252146.XAA05453@yedi.iaf.nl>; from Wilko Bulte on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 11:46:50PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 11:46:50PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > There is one detail I miss: most commercial products are supported by > supplying limited scale fixes (OK, sometime a *lot* of them) instead of > a wholesale upgrade. > > Not that I advocate starting a patch circus like most of the commercial folks > mind you! Just an observation. I'm pretty sure that this has come up in the past. You would need a server to run (?)daily builds against 3.2-STABLE, and build a tar.gz file of the files that have changed since 3.2-RELEASE or 3.1-RELEASE. (Or use xdelta, if it helps. Is there an xdelta equivelant to patch?) Not hard, but since we've got cvsup and make world, I can't see that there's all that much incentive to do the work or provide the infrastructure. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 16:57:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C26715817 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd.list@bug.tasam.com) Received: from bug (bug.tasam.com [206.161.113.114]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA09245; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101bea70a$491e59f0$7271a1ce@tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: "Andrew Kenneth Milton" , "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" Cc: , References: <199905252346.JAA60015@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: ftp server Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:56:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG All hail the kabar (sp?) toss. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav To: Andrew Kenneth Milton Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 19:54 Subject: Re: ftp server > Andrew Kenneth Milton writes: > > Hrm don't Scandanavians hold the record for hurling big, heavy inanimate > > objects? :-) > > Um, no, you're confusing us with scots. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 17: 3:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hops.veldy.org (h-179-50.mn.mediaone.net [209.32.179.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D30B15257 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from barley (barley.veldy.org [192.168.0.1]) by hops.veldy.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0D3558; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:06:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" , "Tom Embt" Cc: Subject: RE: ftp server Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:03:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bea70b$27ffb1a0$0100a8c0@barley.veldy.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey, doesn't current.freebsd.org (usw2.freebsd.org) use it? Connected to usw2.freebsd.org. 220 usw2.freebsd.org FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-18-VR13](1) Tue Mar 16 13:04:12 CST 1999) ready. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dag-Erling > Smorgrav > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 6:41 PM > To: Tom Embt > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ftp server > > > Tom Embt writes: > > Not a bad ftp server though. > > Depends on how you define 'not bad'. New root exploits for wuftpd are > posted nearly weekly on BUGTRAQ. I wouldn't trust it further than I > could throw a sixteen ton block of cement. > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 19: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.talcom.net (unknown [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FD114BEC for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:03:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.talcom.net) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.talcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA23327 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:06:32 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990525220632.A22788@homer.talcom.net> References: <199905250611.XAA00594@dingo.cdrom.com> <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <000001bea677$bc99d5f0$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to>; from David Schwartz on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 11:28:00PM -0700 X-No-Archive: Yes X-Organization: Not very, no. X-Wife: Forgotten but not gone. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 11:28:00PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > > Speaking from a developer's viewpoint; if a complaint from any quarter > > doesn't contain the bare minimum of real information needed to identify > > the problem (or at least problem class) it's worthless. In fact, it's > > worse than worthless, it's an active waste of my time even thinking > > about it. > > That I do disagree with. The complaint was precise -- the RELEASE was not > stable. > Then you'll agree with this: 3-R is/was stable as a rock on my hardware. Why wasnt it released earlier? > While it did not contain enough information to solve the problem, there are > certainly possible solutions to it That makes sense. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 19:11:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from caulfield.bitmap.net (caulfield.v-wave.com [24.108.5.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D41814BEC for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@caulfield.bitmap.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by caulfield.bitmap.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA04939 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:14:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from root@caulfield.bitmap.net) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:14:04 -0600 (MDT) From: the root of all evil To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 20:34:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2389914D65 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20754; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:57 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey Cc: Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > You have said clearly what I tried to say... > > I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you > and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with > lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is > really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american english fan, nor is english my forst language. pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. > I hope that this serves as an illustrative lesson for others, if sure, but not the ignorance you espouse so self-rightously. > nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. > similar response. Be nasty and whiny and you'll get a face full of > sand and perhaps a warmer pair of pants than you're generally > comfortable in. Such exchanges make neither side look very good and > it's merely human nature for people to get upset when people try to > advance their causes ("listen to meeee!!") in such a manner. it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors first language was/is not american english .. maybe you should have taken that into concidration before launching into you usuall tirade and causing this whole episode of mass hysteria. > I'll close this thread by noting also, for the record, that Sergey has > not accomplished his goal here despite his previous assertions to the > contrary. He hasn't gotten the help he needed and, what's worse, he's > now on a bunch of people's shit lists so it's extremely unlikely, if > not downright impossible, that he'll get any useful help in the future > from any of us. I see Linux, and only Linux, in this man's future. this is a real loss for freebsd the sad thing is that we, more correctly you are causing this to happen more and more offten. what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special that its purity needs to be protected so virulenlty by attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold standard as espoused by the walnut creek elite cliched group mindset ? for a group how so adamnetly supports the freendon of speach and or expression you peoples sure do a lot of very active supporession of communications, especialy by and from people who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or more to the point to worry a lot about how the new freebsd user will be treated, more so if they don't speak near perfect american english. how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and or the world is a place full of diversity of culture and epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and cross border neuances. to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught to me .. 'get a life, jordan', or that other old chestnut, 'grow up' take care .. you may just end up getting the kind of freebsd you are buiilding. jonathan ... i'm stupid because i was born like this, whats your excuse ? -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 20:42:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF0A1506D for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA06659 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199905260342.UAA06659@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26 May, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> > You have said clearly what I tried to say... >> >> I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you >> and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with >> lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is >> really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > > thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american > english fan, nor is english my forst language. > > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. I must say, that is the best post I've seen yet. I totally agree. We need to be constructive. To flame someone for flaming to the list is pointless. If someone posts such a post, why couldn't, especially someone on the development team, just say, "Hey, we are concerned with fixing problems. Can you please post some details and we can help you out?" Instead of starting off with why the person's post is wrong, and what they screwed up. The person had a problem, it might, just possibly be a coding problem. So maybe we as a community should listen to users. Yes I'd prefer the user originally phrase it properly too, but it's not a perfect world. Either part of converting everyone to RedHunk Linux, or part of the solution? Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 20:49: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A32914FDB for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11886; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: jonathan michaels Cc: Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:57 +1000." <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:48:53 -0700 Message-ID: <11882.927690533@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [Usual incoherent Jonathan diatribe attacking the evils of coherency deleted] This has nothing to do with language, least of all your always unique interpretation of it, this has to do with reporting bugs in a reasonable fashion. Thank you for playing anyway and have a copy of our home game! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 20:57:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B1614D65 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from netinfo3.ubc.ca ([137.82.27.47] ident=dustinl) by mail.unixg.ubc.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mUos-0003QX-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:57:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Lang X-Sender: dustinl@netinfo3.ubc.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: (off-topic) thanks! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been on this list for about two days now. I'm one of those Linux brats who's considering trying out FreeBSD. In fact, I think I might try to make Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris co-exist. Hey, it could work... Anyways, the flame war of the last day has been most amusing, and I'd just like to thank all the contributors. Sincerely, dstn. ---------------------------------------------------- -- Dustin Lang, dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca -- (java developer, linux guy, freak with rainbow hair) User, n.: a particularly slow and unreliable input/ output device that is attached by default to the standard input and output streams. (stolen from a Gamelan article, author unknown) ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 20:59:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCAF14D96 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11945; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Geff Hanoian Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 20:42:38 PDT." <199905260342.UAA06659@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:00:30 -0700 Message-ID: <11941.927691230@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I must say, that is the best post I've seen yet. I totally agree. We > need to be constructive. To flame someone for flaming to the list is If you really, truly feel this way then please kindly demonstrate it in the only way which really counts - join the freebsd-questions mailing list and start answering user questions for awhile. If, after a few months pass, you are able to still answer each and every post with gentleness and decorum then I will grant you the full status of "having walked a mile in another's shoes" and find the appropriate degree of merit in your opinions. Anything else is merely be an idealized representation of reality and hence not of much concern. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21: 1:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C34614E6C for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20834; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:01:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990526140112.D20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:01:12 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [jkh@zippy.cdrom.com: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii all is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? please note the disparity between teh public responce and teh private one. why is thier this disparity ? put another way, so its ok to jump on the 'officilly scanctioned' hate campaign to pile drive a person into the ground .. but woe betide you if you come to teh designated targets defence. is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? jonathan, whats left of this enquiring mind would like to know. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Forwarded message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (root@zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20775 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:44:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11872 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: jonathan michaels Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:57 +1000." <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:39 -0700 Message-ID: <11868.927690339@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Oh piss off. > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > You have said clearly what I tried to say... > > > > I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you > > and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with > > lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is > > really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > > thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american > english fan, nor is english my forst language. > > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. > > > I hope that this serves as an illustrative lesson for others, if > > sure, but not the ignorance you espouse so self-rightously. > > > nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a > > be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always > read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, > as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. > > > similar response. Be nasty and whiny and you'll get a face full of > > sand and perhaps a warmer pair of pants than you're generally > > comfortable in. Such exchanges make neither side look very good and > > it's merely human nature for people to get upset when people try to > > advance their causes ("listen to meeee!!") in such a manner. > > it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors > first language was/is not american english .. maybe you should > have taken that into concidration before launching into you > usuall tirade and causing this whole episode of mass hysteria. > > > I'll close this thread by noting also, for the record, that Sergey has > > not accomplished his goal here despite his previous assertions to the > > contrary. He hasn't gotten the help he needed and, what's worse, he's > > now on a bunch of people's shit lists so it's extremely unlikely, if > > not downright impossible, that he'll get any useful help in the future > > from any of us. I see Linux, and only Linux, in this man's future. > > this is a real loss for freebsd the sad thing is that we, more > correctly you are causing this to happen more and more offten. > what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special > that its purity needs to be protected so virulenlty by > attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold > standard as espoused by the walnut creek elite cliched group > mindset ? > > for a group how so adamnetly supports the freendon of speach > and or expression you peoples sure do a lot of very active > supporession of communications, especialy by and from people > who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. > > every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded > sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or > more to the point to worry a lot about how the new freebsd user > will be treated, more so if they don't speak near perfect > american english. > > how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise > that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and > or the world is a place full of diversity of culture and > epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of > computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and > cross border neuances. > > to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught > to me .. 'get a life, jordan', or that other old chestnut, 'grow > up' > > take care .. you may just end up getting the kind of freebsd > you are buiilding. > > jonathan > > ... i'm stupid because i was born like this, whats your excuse ? > > -- > ============================================================================= == > Jonathan Michaels > PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia > =========================================================== > --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21: 2:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daphne.bogus (dialup172.black-hole.com [206.9.144.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D433151A2 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hank@black-hole.com) Received: from localhost (hank@localhost) by daphne.bogus (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA54044; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:00:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hank@black-hole.com) X-Authentication-Warning: daphne.bogus: hank owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:00:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Henry Miller X-Sender: hank@daphne.bogus To: jonathan michaels Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > You have said clearly what I tried to say... > > > > I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you > > and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with > > lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is > > really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > > thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american > english fan, nor is english my forst language. English is a horrid language, but we are stuck with it. > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. A possibly excellent contributor, or a possibel thorn in the side. We do not know which, and probably never will. However when someone starts demanding that anouther person working for free solve his problems, we are forced to conclude that this person is a potential thorn in the side. > > I hope that this serves as an illustrative lesson for others, if > > sure, but not the ignorance you espouse so self-rightously. > > > nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a > > be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always > read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, > as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. > > > similar response. Be nasty and whiny and you'll get a face full of > > sand and perhaps a warmer pair of pants than you're generally > > comfortable in. Such exchanges make neither side look very good and > > it's merely human nature for people to get upset when people try to > > advance their causes ("listen to meeee!!") in such a manner. > > it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors > first language was/is not american english .. maybe you should > have taken that into concidration before launching into you > usuall tirade and causing this whole episode of mass hysteria. I thought the tirade was entireely about the orginial poster never giving enough information, or putting forth enough effort for anyone to even include he was telling the truth. I don't want to sound like I'm calling him a lier, I don't know. All I know is why my specific system FreeBSD works well, and never crashes. There are systems where it is not. If you tell me that freeBSD is unstable with some obcure hardware installed, I can buy that hardware, test it, find the problems, and fix them. IF you have that obscure hardware and don't tell me, my efforts to find the probelms are wasted. I work for free on FreeBSD, I don't like wasting my times on your boring problem when I have more interesting things to do. > > I'll close this thread by noting also, for the record, that Sergey has > > not accomplished his goal here despite his previous assertions to the > > contrary. He hasn't gotten the help he needed and, what's worse, he's > > now on a bunch of people's shit lists so it's extremely unlikely, if > > not downright impossible, that he'll get any useful help in the future > > from any of us. I see Linux, and only Linux, in this man's future. > > this is a real loss for freebsd the sad thing is that we, more > correctly you are causing this to happen more and more offten. > what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special > that its purity needs to be protected so virulenlty by > attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold > standard as espoused by the walnut creek elite cliched group > mindset ? You are combining two seperate things: Freedom to way what you want, and the freedom to be heard. You have the first, but not the second. Freedom cuts both ways, we have the rights to flame anyone (not that I saw this happening, and I hope you don't see this as a flame as it isn't intenede that way) back. I have noticed however that those who post enough information that someone can duplicate their problems generally get help, while those who claim there is a problem without telling me how I can do it on my system do not. > for a group how so adamnetly supports the freendon of speach > and or expression you peoples sure do a lot of very active > supporession of communications, especialy by and from people > who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. Freedom of speach BTW, is a right in the Unitied States of America. This right may or may not exist in other countries. THe UK for instance has very different laws, yet you will be hard pressed to tell if someone is from the UK or US by the way they write. > every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded > sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or > more to the point to worry a lot about how the new freebsd user > will be treated, more so if they don't speak near perfect > american english. English is not the issue. The issue is and was that if I can't prove there is a problem I can't fix it. > how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise > that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and > or the world is a place full of diversity of culture and > epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of > computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and > cross border neuances. WE already know that. I see large areas in freeBSD for support of japanise in particular. Hebrew and chinese support also exists. If we are small minded because we will not deal with someone who won't tell us how to help him, so be it. There is nothing that we could do. Indeed the fact that this thread has drawn so many comments disproves your claim that we don't want to help. If we didn't want to help we would have ignored it. We want to help, but there is no way to do so with what we know so far. > to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught > to me .. 'get a life, jordan', or that other old chestnut, 'grow > up' While Jordan isn't perfect, he generally does a good job. He does not get paid for doing what he does, yet he does it. > take care .. you may just end up getting the kind of freebsd > you are buiilding. You know, the people who are building freeBSD have a specif problem to solve. Most are overjoyed that their work is useful to others, and all are happy to have other intelligent people to do some of the work. But When it comes down to it, They are not paid money. All they get for their effort is a system that works for their needs. And once it works for their needs there is no reason they should care if it works for mine. Yet is seems to me that they do anyway. When I first started my current job we have an entire line of comptuers that would crash everytime a certian person looked at them. 100% repeatable, she would walk by, glance at it, and down it would go. There is no casual relation between her stare, and the electronics. We never told the devolpers about this problem because they would rightfully laugh at us, yet it did exist for several months. -- http://www.black-hole.com/users/henrymiller/ hank@black-hole.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21: 6:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A64B14EFE for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA06775 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:06:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199905260406.VAA06775@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <11868.927690339@zippy.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it possible for the people that flamed to admit that jonathan was/is right? :( For the record - I hope it is. Geff On 25 May, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Oh piss off. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21: 7:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADAE14E6C for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:07:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA09627; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:07:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd009622; Wed May 26 04:06:57 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22577; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:06:56 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199905260406.OAA22577@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: jonathan michaels Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:57 +1000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:06:56 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems to me there are three ways new BSD users can approach this list (or the newsgroup) if they have a problem. 1) They could read the documentation, and try and solve it themselves, and then perhaps post something like: Hi. I installed FreeBSD 3.1 from the CD on my system (a Frobozz 34 Motherboard, a KickHertz 73 processor and a blitblatter 28 video card), and every few days it reboots with a message panic: locking against myself What can I do? Almost certainly they would receive a polite and useful response, along the lines of: This is a known problem and is fixed in the -STABLE branch. Update your system according to the instructions in the handbook. 2) They could just post anyway, without reading the documentation, perhaps like: My FreeBSD system keeps rebooting. What's wrong? which is likely to receive a much testier response, because there is no evidence that they have done any reading on their own, and this request is completely without usable information. 3) They could come out all guns blazing, like: What sort of idiots are you? I've installed this FreeBSD rubbish and it reboots all the time! What sort of moron calls this a RELEASE? Can you guess what sort of response this will generate? Can you guess which of these three approaches the original poster to this thread took? Jordan: Perhaps you could add a section to the ABOUT.TXT file to make it even more explicit the sort of information that makes for a useful trouble report. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:15: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F3A1501A for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12056; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Geff Hanoian Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 21:06:12 PDT." <199905260406.VAA06775@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: <12052.927692161@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Was that cc'd to the list? Whoops, I sure didn't mean it to be. :) That was meant more as a private whack in a long line of whacks directed straight at Jonathan. If this was a single thread in isolation it might seem a rather odd rejoinder, but it's not in isolation, Jonathan and I have a lot of bad history going back probably several years now. Jonathan periodically posts long, semi-coherent screeds to this list which attack me, american imperialism, the tyranny of the system and god-only-knows what else since I usually can't handle reading more than a few paragraphs of Jonathan-speak before tuning out (it's like listening to the "Jarjar" dialog in "The Phantom Menace" - just outright painful after too much repeated exposure). As one might expect after several years of such exposure, my tolerance is rather low. It's also not helped by the fact that Johnathan has also "stomped out for the last time" at least twice and each time I get my hopes up, only to have them dashed again when he reappears with another public diatribe. :-) - Jordan > Is it possible for the people that flamed to admit that jonathan was/is > right? :( For the record - I hope it is. > > Geff > > > On 25 May, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Oh piss off. > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:16: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D1AE15151 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 80141 invoked by uid 100); 26 May 1999 04:15:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 04:15:55 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:15:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <199905260342.UAA06659@kusanagi.boing.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, Geff Hanoian wrote: > I must say, that is the best post I've seen yet. I totally agree. We > need to be constructive. To flame someone for flaming to the list is > pointless. If someone posts such a post, why couldn't, especially > someone on the development team, just say, "Hey, we are concerned with > fixing problems. Can you please post some details and we can help you > out?" Instead of starting off with why the person's post is wrong, and > what they screwed up. The person had a problem, it might, just > possibly be a coding problem. So maybe we as a community should listen > to users. Yes I'd prefer the user originally phrase it properly too, > but it's not a perfect world. Either part of converting everyone to > RedHunk Linux, or part of the solution? Let's see if I got this straight, now. On one hand, you've got a bunch talented software developers which is by nature an egotistical breed. This particular bunch has developed and then *given away* one of the of the most stable OS's around - an act which generally indicates that they are doing it for the ego boo from it. On the other hand you have someone who gives every appearance of being clueless, in that they haven't read the available documentation. This person posts something that is indistinguishable from flame bait insulting something the first group gave away asking nothing, and probably expecting nothing more than a simple thank you. And you expect them to respond to these taunts by asking for more of the same? I don't know anything about the person with a problem. Given his contribution to this group, losing him to Linux is a loss for both groups. On the other hand, repeated behavior of that kind - content-free insults about something you've sweated blood over - is a good way to make people stop giving away their labors. After all, they do it for *themselves*, and to help others. If they decide that the majority of "others" don't want, or appreciate that effort - they'll stop making it available to others. This doesn't mean never saying a bad word about the product. It *does* mean making sure you tell them when you think they've done a good job (because the vast majority *won't*, and they deserve to hear it). Most importantly, it means realizing that when you're asking for a change or fix, you're asking for a *favor*, and approaching it that way. Unlike a commercial vendor, it's perfectly reasonable for the FreeBSD team to answer whining of the "why don't you do it my way" with "we don't want to - you've got the tools, you do it your way." Some people take them up on it - leading to NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc. ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 20411 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 04:17:29 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 26 May 1999 04:17:29 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990525211912.022d46d0@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:19:12 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:00 PM 5/25/99 -0700, you wrote: > Anything else is merely be an >idealized representation of reality and hence not of much concern. > >- Jordan > As I can agree with all the developers on the issue at hand, as a development community we require at least a bare minimum of quality information to be able to handel the "it's broke fix it" phenomenon. But having said this I don't think that we need to waste as many bits of bandwidth in pounding this issue into the ground. The "official word" from the FreeBSD development team has said so now can we please drop this whole thread and get back to constructive work. Just my 2 cents worth. Cudos to the Whole dev team: Thanks for all your hard work and perseverance , as well as your tolerance for people who start threads like this. Keep up the GOOD WORK. //DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:18:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F66515134 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12076; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Gregory Bond Cc: jonathan michaels , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 14:06:56 +1000." <199905260406.OAA22577@lightning.itga.com.au> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:17:33 -0700 Message-ID: <12073.927692253@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan: Perhaps you could add a section to the ABOUT.TXT file to make it even > more explicit the sort of information that makes for a useful trouble report. Well, this is what I already have there: -- For general questions, please send email to : freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Please also have patience if your questions are not answered right away - this mailing list is staffed purely by volunteers and they also have real life schedules to contend with. Questions which are asked intelligently (e.g. not "My system doesn't work! What's wrong!?") also stand a far greater chance of being answered. If your question does not contain enough information to allow the responder to generate a meaningful answer, they generally won't. -- How would you suggest it be strengthened? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:23:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A2B150DA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA06856; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199905260423.VAA06856@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <12073.927692253@zippy.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 May, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Maybe just a suggestion. I will admit that the developers of BSD are EXCELLENT programmers and providing this whole thing for $0. And that's a GREAT thing. But perhaps if those people can't be polite and considerate they shouldn't answer questions, until they've had a mellow out break? I mean, I know it sounds like I'm talking to a bunch of little kids. But, perhaps people that aren't holding on so tight should be the first level of "support" so to speak? Has that been considered? Then perhaps, once there is more information it could be taken to a developer. These people aren't UNIX experts. It's not their fault. If they had enough information to solve the problem on their own, they would. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:27: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A1B15051 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12193; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:28:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Geff Hanoian Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 21:23:50 PDT." <199905260423.VAA06856@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:28:04 -0700 Message-ID: <12189.927692884@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > little kids. But, perhaps people that aren't holding on so tight > should be the first level of "support" so to speak? Has that been > considered? That's questions@freebsd.org and where most folks asking questions should stay, but still they wander into more developer-oriented mailing lists like -current and -stable and then some developers chew on them a little. We direct them to -questions, every bit of documentation we have points to -questions, but still some guys just *insist* on ignoring the advice and doing the equivalent of walking through Chicago's south side at 3am. There's just no protecting such people. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:42:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE8115051 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA06933; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199905260442.VAA06933@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: boing@boing.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <12189.927692884@zippy.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 May, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> little kids. But, perhaps people that aren't holding on so tight >> should be the first level of "support" so to speak? Has that been >> considered? > > That's questions@freebsd.org and where most folks asking questions > should stay, but still they wander into more developer-oriented > mailing lists like -current and -stable and then some developers chew > on them a little. We direct them to -questions, every bit of > documentation we have points to -questions, but still some guys just > *insist* on ignoring the advice and doing the equivalent of walking > through Chicago's south side at 3am. There's just no protecting such > people. :) Look the problem is this. The user. If you build more proper access channels, you're assuming that people will read and use one of those channels. So this doesn't apply to someone that is going to just post and say, "This sucks". That person isn't even going to know ABOUT.TXT exists! Let alone know where to post. We're lucky the poster found anything at all, but chances are -stable was the first thing they latched on to and even if it isn't that's not the point. What are you going to do? Educate everyone? Or just swallow the pride and be polite? I don't understand why all the developers seem to have this, "I am perfect" attitude, and fix the "user". If you fix the support channels, they'll build a better idiot to break them. Why is that so hard to grasp? Obviously these users haven't looked at the code. And they don't know how good it is. To them it doesn't work. And it just might be their hardware or the OS, we don't know and we won't know now. The loss that is taking place today is HUGE. But apparently I've just opened my eyes to it. It's been here all along. :( It seems you have to be UNIX versed to post a problem, but if you are, you're not going to post the problem. Chances are you're going to find the problem and send a personal email to a developer and say, "hey, this fixed that if anyone cares." For the record I'm not perfect and I do take FreeBSD pretty seriously. People at work use linux and like to have the debates, which I don't start usually. Sometimes it's tough, but you have to remain professional and proper or you're not aiding to the cause, but pushing people further away. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:49:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C53B150FD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04760; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990525214855.A4651@nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:48:55 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: jonathan michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Reply-To: deobrien@ucdavis.edu References: <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:33:57PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan, ``ispell'' is available on the 1st CDROM in package form. On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:33:57PM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > english fan, nor is english my forst language. ^ > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community ^^ > as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. ^^^ ^^^^ > it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors ^^^ ^^^ > what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special ^ ^ > attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold ^^ > who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. ^^ ^^ ^ ^^ > every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded ^^ ^^ > sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or ^^ > how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise ^^ ^ > that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and ^^ ^^ > epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ > computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and ^ > cross border neuances. ^^ > to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught ^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^ ^^ > you are buiilding. ^ -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E81150FD for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA14610; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:49:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA07098; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:49:29 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:49:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Gregory Bond , jonathan michaels , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <12073.927692253@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Just an idea for the poeple who don't understand english that well ... give a small example of the correct way to do it. In the jest of : from : xxx to: you know what RE: Their is a problem with xxx on FreeBSD x.xx I've got a problem on my system ( I can't seem to compile xxx) or whatever. My system has the folowing specs : Controller : y.yy etc ...etc.. The problem accures at ( give line of code and source file ). give cvs rev of code etc..or the dump given is : xxxxx and can be obtained from xxx@yyy.com for analyses ( IF needed) etc. I think this would force poeple to do the reseach before they ask..However I'm not shure this is practical or feasable. Michael ---- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Tue, 25 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Jordan: Perhaps you could add a section to the ABOUT.TXT file to make it even > > more explicit the sort of information that makes for a useful trouble report. > > Well, this is what I already have there: > > -- > For general questions, please send email to : > > freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > > Please also have patience if your questions are not answered right > away - this mailing list is staffed purely by volunteers and they also > have real life schedules to contend with. Questions which are asked > intelligently (e.g. not "My system doesn't work! What's wrong!?") > also stand a far greater chance of being answered. If your question > does not contain enough information to allow the responder to generate > a meaningful answer, they generally won't. > -- > > How would you suggest it be strengthened? > > - Jordan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 21:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BE814FBB; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA06975; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199905260451.VAA06975@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:51:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: deobrien@ucdavis.edu Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, jon@caamora.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990525214855.A4651@nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG JESUS PEOPLE, I mean the guy says up front he doesn't speak english very well, or that it's a second language and you STILL CLOWN on HIM? *shakes head* Geff On 25 May, David O'Brien wrote: > Jonathan, ``ispell'' is available on the 1st CDROM in package form. > > > On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:33:57PM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: >> english fan, nor is english my forst language. > ^ >> possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > ^^ >> as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. > ^^^ ^^^^ >> it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors > ^^^ ^^^ >> what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special > ^ ^ >> attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold > ^^ >> who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. > ^^ ^^ ^ ^^ >> every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded > ^^ ^^ >> sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or > ^^ >> how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise > ^^ ^ >> that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and > ^^ ^^ >> epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of > ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ >> computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and > ^ >> cross border neuances. > ^^ >> to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught > ^^ ^^^^^ ^ ^ ^^ >> you are buiilding. > ^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22: 1:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from homer.talcom.net (unknown [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC66814CB6 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.talcom.net) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.talcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA23930 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:04:13 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990526010413.A23726@homer.talcom.net> References: <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:33:57PM +1000 X-No-Archive: Yes X-Organization: Not very, no. X-Wife: Forgotten but not gone. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 01:33:57PM +1000, jonathan michaels wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > You have said clearly what I tried to say... > > > > I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you > > and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with > > lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is > > really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > > thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american > english fan, nor is english my forst language. > > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. > [...] > how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise > that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and > or the world is a place full of diversity of culture and > epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of > computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and > cross border neuances. > You must be fun at parties. Did I lose a whole lot of mail in this thread or am I too dense too see beyond someone who unrolls their pet agenda at the drop of a pin? Perhaps you'd be willing to post a cogent arguement rebutting the advice given so far by the "smallminded people" in this thread and limit it there. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22: 3:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E018414ED0 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04826; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990525220300.B4651@nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:03:00 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Geff Hanoian Cc: jon@caamora.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Reply-To: deobrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990525214855.A4651@nuxi.com> <199905260451.VAA06975@kusanagi.boing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199905260451.VAA06975@kusanagi.boing.com>; from Geff Hanoian on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:51:11PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:51:11PM -0700, Geff Hanoian wrote: > JESUS PEOPLE, I mean the guy says up front he doesn't speak english > very well, or that it's a second language and you STILL CLOWN on HIM? Geff who's "clown"ing? When I write in the other language I know [non-natively] I am even more careful of my spelling than when I write in English. And there isn't a free spell checker for it either. > *shakes head* Gezz how much easier can it be than using ``ispell''? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22: 4:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usgs.gov (igsmn002.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.41.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D55B814ECA for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) Received: from IGSMN-Message_Server by usgs.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:04:34 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:04:15 -0700 From: "Robert Sowders" To: jon@caamora.com.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, witr@rwwa.com Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>> jonathan michaels 5/25/99 8:33:57 PM >>> >On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> > You have said clearly what I tried to say... >>=20 >> I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you >> and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with >> lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is >> really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > >thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american=20 >english fan, nor is english my forst language. > >pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another=20 > Hey, take it easy dude, take a chill pill or something. Like these guys = said they=20 do it as a volunteer effort and share with us for free. If you insulted = their country or their mother they would probably just yawn and say so what? But insult = their=20 work and it's fighten time. If Sergey wanted to contribute something he = went about it the wrong way. Now your trying to get a point across in = absolutely the wrong way too. Maybe your remark will be construed as not insulting their work and you = will=20 more or less be ignored, but then again maybe not. If you continue with = these type of rants then you better break out the Redhat disks maybe you'll = be=20 happier there. These people have long memories and when or if you really need help = with=20 something and your job or reputation is on the line, well then you kinda = burned that bridge didn't you. So please remember, even though at times these = guys sound kinda snippy, you have to remember what they are trying to deal with = is enormous. Now top that off with someone who is being obnoxious and you = get instant flame. Sergey was being obnoxious and he understands and communicates very well in english, the thread was not about language, but = about being polite and providing info if you want help. Now let's drop it and get back to work, please. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:11: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CC014CB6 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id PAA10597; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:10:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd010595; Wed May 26 05:10:46 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24266; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:10:46 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199905260510.PAA24266@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 25 May 1999 21:17:33 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:10:46 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Well, this is what I already have there: > > -- > For general questions, please send email to : > > freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > > Please also have patience if your questions are not answered right > away - this mailing list is staffed purely by volunteers and they also > have real life schedules to contend with. Questions which are asked > intelligently (e.g. not "My system doesn't work! What's wrong!?") > also stand a far greater chance of being answered. If your question > does not contain enough information to allow the responder to generate > a meaningful answer, they generally won't. > -- > > How would you suggest it be strengthened? I was afraid you'd say that! OK, something like this (bearing in mind that I'm not a committer and I don't deal with PRs so this is just a stab at what I think is required): --- What is enough information? In general, any information that seems relevent - you can't include too much! What hardware are you using? - Make and model of motherboard - CPU make/model/speed - Are you overclocking? If so, try it without overclocking first. - Video Card - Disk controllers - SCSI or IDE? Disk Sizes? How many Drives? - Network cards What version of FreeBSD are you using? - Installed from FTP? CD-ROM? - If possible, include the output of "uname -a" command If it is a problem booting, list _exactly_ where in the boot sequence you have problems, and all messages on the screen until that point. If it is an unexpected system reboot, list any messages on the console from when it reboots, or run the command "dmesg" and check for any error messages which would occur just before the latest line that looks like Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc Or just include the whole dmesg output. The most interesting lines will look something like: panic: freeing free inode If it is a problem with FreeBSD not finding some of your hardware, double (and triple!) check that the IRQ, I/O port and DMA channel assignments are correct. Then, boot with the verbose flag on: and include the output of the "dmesg" command. If it is a problem building the system via "make world" or "make buildworld", wait an hour or two, run CVSup again and try the build again (These failures are often only transitory and get fixed very rapidly). If it still fails, include the last page or so of output from the make command and a precice timestamp (including TIMEZONE!) when you ran CVSup. If it is a problem compiling a new kernel, include the kernel config file you are attempting to use and the last page or so from the kernel make command. If it is a problem of some system program dumping core, include the _exact_ command and environment to make it repeatable. If it is some system program not behaving as you expect, include the _exact_ commandline you ran, the exact output or result you got, and a precise description of what you feel should have been produced. -------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:27:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (ip-61-113.guate.net [200.12.61.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE7414FF0 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:27:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obonilla@voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu) Received: (from obonilla@localhost) by voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03549; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:26:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from obonilla) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:26:33 -0600 From: Oscar Bonilla To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Geff Hanoian , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990525232633.A341@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <199905260406.VAA06775@kusanagi.boing.com> <12052.927692161@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <12052.927692161@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:16:01PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:16:01PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Was that cc'd to the list? Whoops, I sure didn't mean it to be. :) > > That was meant more as a private whack in a long line of whacks > directed straight at Jonathan. If this was a single thread in > isolation it might seem a rather odd rejoinder, but it's not in > isolation, Jonathan and I have a lot of bad history going back > probably several years now. > > Jonathan periodically posts long, semi-coherent screeds to this list > which attack me, american imperialism, the tyranny of the system and > god-only-knows what else since I usually can't handle reading more > than a few paragraphs of Jonathan-speak before tuning out (it's like > listening to the "Jarjar" dialog in "The Phantom Menace" - just MAN! You're lucky to have already seen that movie... it doesn't get here until late June. Know any good Monterey Theaters? > outright painful after too much repeated exposure). As one might > expect after several years of such exposure, my tolerance is rather > low. It's also not helped by the fact that Johnathan has also > "stomped out for the last time" at least twice and each time I get my > hopes up, only to have them dashed again when he reappears with > another public diatribe. :-) > > - Jordan > > > > Is it possible for the people that flamed to admit that jonathan was/is > > right? :( For the record - I hope it is. > > He's wrong. -Oscar > > Geff > > > > > > On 25 May, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Oh piss off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:28: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C102615203 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.105]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA24B9; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:27:53 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA64977; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:28:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:28:00 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: jonathan michaels Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Robert Withrow , Sergey , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-May-99 jonathan michaels wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a > > be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always > read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, > as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. Bullshit... As long as I know Jordan know, that's roughly about 9-12 months, on the lists as well as IRC, I tend to know Jordan as someone who's willing to help/give advice in a nice way. But with every thing out there, plainless lack of knowledge by not reading docs such as the handbook/FAQ or other equivalent works (freebsdzine.org daemonnews.org freebsddiary.com) is a your own fault. People saw this thread only from a pure user/developer perspective. Now look at it from a workflow perspective. The mail from Sergey, plus other pr's I see in the gnats database clearly lack all components to make accurate suggestions on the next steps possible, and after more than 10000 pr's I can imagine people getting tired of dragging info out of people. It can be as simple as noting the error after certain actions took place. Or as elaborate as booting with -v, crashdumping the OS and gdb'ing it. And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there, once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:28: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A98215218 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.105]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA4945; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:27:54 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA64984; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:28:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11941.927691230@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:28:06 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Geff Hanoian Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-May-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> I must say, that is the best post I've seen yet. I totally agree. We >> need to be constructive. To flame someone for flaming to the list is > > If you really, truly feel this way then please kindly demonstrate it > in the only way which really counts - join the freebsd-questions > mailing list and start answering user questions for awhile. If, after > a few months pass, you are able to still answer each and every post > with gentleness and decorum then I will grant you the full status of > "having walked a mile in another's shoes" and find the appropriate > degree of merit in your opinions. Anything else is merely be an > idealized representation of reality and hence not of much concern. This has Doug White spread all over it ;) (cheers!) And Jordan is right. Wherever I have some spare time I try to answer questions in -questions which I know I can answer or which I think I know I can answer. I might in the least case point someone's nose the correct way... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:35:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8989915134 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21070; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:35:03 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990526153503.G20660@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:35:03 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: deobrien@ucdavis.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <19990525133422.27970.qmail@nym.alias.net> <9497.927669429@zippy.cdrom.com> <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> <19990525214855.A4651@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990525214855.A4651@nuxi.com>; from David O'Brien on Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:48:55PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 09:48:55PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Jonathan, ``ispell'' is available on the 1st CDROM in package form. I wish it did .. I've explained on several ocassions how and the why of this weird posting style. What needs to be done is to regenreate some of the establsihed and growing 35 percent non functioning cognitive regions of the brain-body interface, i.e. disability. When I read my posts I don't see the items you pointed out no matter how hard/long/often I proofread. My brain is accustomed 'fixing' these quirks for me. If your wondering why this post is so clean, a friend of mine has droped in, I dictated this responce. Want to swap for a while, I'll take your spelling abilities and you can have my brain, yes ? To reiterate, I'm do the best that I can, pity is that I don't have very much. -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.tomail.com.tw (dns.tomail.com.tw [203.70.70.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F7C014FC6 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silver@tomail.com.tw) Received: (qmail 53728 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 05:48:46 -0000 Received: from eva.pchome.com.tw (HELO tomail.com.tw) (203.70.70.2) by dns.tomail.com.tw with SMTP; 26 May 1999 05:48:46 -0000 Message-ID: <374B8B54.ECA3EF85@tomail.com.tw> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:49:08 +0800 From: Silver CHEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: [help] 3.2-stable LVD transfer rate drop to 11.xxx MB/s??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir: I've upgraded my 3.1R box to 3.2 due to the kernel panic under heavy load. Now it's all done, and I reboot the box, then I found my LVD disks' tranfer rate becomes: da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 11.626MB/s transfers (5.813MHz, offset 15, 16bit) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) This is very funny, compared to 3.1R: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 80.0MB/s transfers (40.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!! da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) I'm using the GENERIC kernel now, and both 3.1R/3.2 has detected the SCSI controller sucessfully during boot: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.1 ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Should I do something to 'fix' the transfer rate and the tagged queue option? The controller is expansive, the LVD disk is expansive, even the LVD cable is expansive - this setting makes me very upset....:( Thanks for your help. Regards. -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Shan-Ta CHEN E-Mail : sansil@pchome.com.tw | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 22:54:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B752151EB for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA14689; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:49:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA07118; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:49:34 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:49:34 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: jonathan michaels , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Robert Withrow , Sergey , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > People saw this thread only from a pure user/developer perspective. Now > look at it from a workflow perspective. The mail from Sergey, plus other > pr's I see in the gnats database clearly lack all components to make > accurate suggestions on the next steps possible, and after more than 10000 > pr's I can imagine people getting tired of dragging info out of people. Yes shure ..but could it just be that the poeple who submit the report don't really understand what the developer needs to be able to help...sometimes poeple think they are helping by submitting a problem report but realy don't quite know complete to make the report in a way that makes sense to the developer.. > > It can be as simple as noting the error after certain actions took place. > Or as elaborate as booting with -v, crashdumping the OS and gdb'ing it. ok shure that is probably enough info for someone who doesn't do anything else but develop code..however for most poeple the line above could be just like chinese or whatever. > And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there, > once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs... Probably right ...and no I don't think it is not the case of not reading the docs but comprehending them..some poeple have a limited comprehention of the english language ...so that could be it..( exaple if I wrote to you in technical french you probably would not be able to comprehend it aldo you would be able to read it same thing goes for poeple not comprehending english. maybe one should write docs a 10th grade US scholar would coprehend...then this would be less accurant. Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 25 23:19:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B794515362 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA10735; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:18:56 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905260618.AAA10735@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: [help] 3.2-stable LVD transfer rate drop to 11.xxx MB/s??? In-Reply-To: <374B8B54.ECA3EF85@tomail.com.tw> from Silver CHEN at "May 26, 1999 01:49:08 pm" To: silver@tomail.com.tw (Silver CHEN) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Silver CHEN wrote... > Dear Sir: > > I've upgraded my 3.1R box to 3.2 due to the kernel panic under > heavy load. Now it's all done, and I reboot the box, then I > found my LVD disks' tranfer rate becomes: > > da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 11.626MB/s transfers (5.813MHz, offset 15, 16bit) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) > > This is very funny, compared to 3.1R: > > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 80.0MB/s transfers (40.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!! > da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) > > I'm using the GENERIC kernel now, and both 3.1R/3.2 has detected the > SCSI controller sucessfully during boot: Are you running 3.2-RELEASE or 3.2-STABLE?? This bug was introduced only a few days ago, and a couple of weeks after 3.2-RELEASE. > ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on > pci0.12.0 > ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on > pci0.12.1 > ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > > Should I do something to 'fix' the transfer rate and the tagged > queue option? > > The controller is expansive, the LVD disk is expansive, even the > LVD cable is expansive - this setting makes me very upset....:( This problem was fixed today (Tuesday). Sync to FreeBSD-stable (RELENG_3) and things should work properly again. You can fix it for a given boot using camcontrol(8). Look specifically at the 'negotiate' option. You should be able to change the sync rate and tagged queueing status like this: camcontrol negotiate da0 -R 40 -T enable -a Of course that won't last across boots. The best thing to do is upgrade your sources to the latest stuff. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 0:10: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lanfear.nidlink.com (lanfear.nidlink.com [216.18.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DBC1528C for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (root@enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by lanfear.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA20985 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hal.nidlink.com (tnt132-87.nidlink.com [216.18.132.87]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA11372 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: sworkman@nidlink.com From: Shawn Workman To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: adduser Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forgive me if this is off topic. I am looking for an adduser script that will allow me to add users to the system from the command line by only speciyfing username and password. Any info? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 0:15:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from i.caniserv.com (i.caniserv.com [139.142.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1E09152EE for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 341 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 07:15:33 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 26 May 1999 07:15:33 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990526001716.02d6e790@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:17:17 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: adduser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man pw At 12:13 AM 5/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >Forgive me if this is off topic. > >I am looking for an adduser script that will allow me to add users to the >system from the command line by only speciyfing username and password. > >Any info? > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 0:17:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from SIMULTAN.CH (eunet-gw.simultan.ch [194.191.191.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8105E152CA for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Received: from simultan.ch (wsaltis-053.SIMULTAN.CH [192.92.128.53]) by SIMULTAN.CH (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA07228; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:17:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Message-ID: <374BA002.B4B933D9@simultan.ch> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:17:22 +0200 From: Thomas Seidmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sworkman@nidlink.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adduser References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shawn Workman wrote: > > Forgive me if this is off topic. > > I am looking for an adduser script that will allow me to add users to the > system from the command line by only speciyfing username and password. > > Any info? pw(8) Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 1:56:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA32B152B6 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29437; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:56:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10mZUz-0007hX-00; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:57:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:57:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Szilveszter To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Just for some change... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I am just writing this to congratulate all people who have been working on bringing us 3.2-STABLE. You guys have done a truly marvellous job! I just finished upgrading my 3.1-STABLE system to 3.2-STABLE and there were no problems at all:-))) This is a nice change for me because when I was migrating from 3.1-RELEASE to 3.1-STABLE, there were numerous minor problems that I had to sort out by hand. Nothing of that this time. The system was up and standing again in 3 hours, download time included:-) So why have I bothered you at all with this post? Because I think that not only problems need to be reported but also praise and encouragement need to be voiced. Especially now when some of you guys have been engaged in a cool flame war for the third or so day on end:-))) Regards and all the best: Szilveszter Szeged University Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 2: 1:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D124B14D69 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA48486; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:59:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:59:21 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <199905252310.QAA01848@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > Nope that didn't work.... the kernel.0 your referring to will not have any > > debug code.... but kernel.debug should. Yet that didn't work either. > > I typically just install the debug kernel, so that all the kernels in > the dump area contain debug symbols. > > > # cd /var/crash > > # ls > > bounds kernel.0 vmcore.0 > > > > # gdb -k kernel.0 --core vmcore.0 > > GNU gdb 4.18 > > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > > conditions. > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > > (no debugging symbols found)... > > kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. > > (kgdb) where > > No stack. > > (kgdb) q > > Weird. I can only wonder if there's a problem with dumps taken on SMP > systems; everything else ought to work. You might want to poke Doug > Rabson just in case something broke in the recent gdb changes. I think Dmitrij has just fixed my mistake. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 2: 1:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.mbp.ee (bsd.mbp.ee [194.204.12.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CB7152B6 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: from lant.mbp.ee (lant.mbp.ee [194.204.12.41]) by bsd.mbp.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA48208 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:57:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from mauri@aripaev.ee) Received: by lant.mbp.ee with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:58:56 +0300 Message-ID: <554419C71610D211B3F808003636280213B088@lant.mbp.ee> From: Lauri Laupmaa To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: -STABLE scsi problem (bug?) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:58:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-4" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I've lately added old but reliable Micropolis Raidion RAID 5 array and a 3rd aic7870 adapter. Raidion is only device on this adapter, it has ID 0 and LUNs 0 and 1. After some days I get some errors like: > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0xa > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Queuing a BDR SCB > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34a > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack and then when I try to unmount (even with -f) filesystems on RAID, I get device not configured. ls shows no files there... Now for the BUG: If I do shutdown -r now it says syncing disks 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 ... giving up and after reboot starts fsck EVERY filesystem ! If it can't sync one then it reboots without syncing others... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 2:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C6F14CAB for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA11563 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:26:08 +1000 Received: from tar-56k-210.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.210), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda11529; Wed May 26 19:26:04 1999 Message-ID: <374BBD89.6437FB06@tpgi.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:23:21 +1000 From: Eddie Irvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: latest make world, latest samba problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Am I the only one having problems with SAMBA all of a sudden? I started to have some trouble logging in to some shares, so I remade the world, the kernel, and the latest SAMBA port. Now even smbstatus won't run - it gives up with the message "Cannot initialise share modes" -- Eddie http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/eirvine/index.html ________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 3:43:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002311502A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA15809 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:43:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: first time for everything... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I criec before that "make world" was broken, and it turned out to be something with the way my sources were layed out. This time, I checked and rechecked, and could not find an explanation. (though I'm still not all tha comfortable with how all the sources are layed out). ===> gnu/usr.bin/sdiff install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sdiff /usr/bin *** Error code 71 Now, I looked in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sdiff, and sure 'nuff, there was NO file called sdiff for install to do it's magic on. I would appreciate it if someone could point me to a fix, and also clue me in on how to restart installworld where it left off. TIA, -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 3:49:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amerasu.brel.com (amerasu.brel.com [203.127.231.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEF21502A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 03:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.bnn.com [203.127.231.61]) by amerasu.brel.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26059 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:48:54 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Message-Id: <199905261048.SAA26059@amerasu.brel.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:48:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Free B Reply-To: Free B Subject: Re: Just for some change... To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I felt the urge/need to the second Adam's lead. Especially in light of what's going on. My sincere appreciateion to all the developers. Thanks for bringing us a good and stable platform to work on. I've been using FBSD since 2.2.7 and never have any problem. Well, actually there are, but its mostly hardware problems. U know, the sort of headaches you get from using IBM Netfinity 5xxx. Anyway, thanks again. Regards, /calvin from Singapore -- Maintainer's Motto:- If we can't fix it, it ain't broke. You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 4:32: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from distortion.dk (distortion.dk [195.249.147.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F47E151F1 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 04:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from npp@distortion.dk) Received: (from npp@localhost) by distortion.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19589 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from npp) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Nicolai Petri Message-Id: <199905261306.PAA19589@distortion.dk> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Outdated webpage! (www.freebsd.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think is it time the 3.2-release are mentioned on the web page.. (under annuncements!) Someone who disagreeds ??? ;) Regards, And etc... Nicolai Petri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 5:59: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBAA14FF7; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kent@erlang.ericsson.se) Received: from erlang.ericsson.se (erlang.ericsson.se [147.214.36.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with ESMTP id OAA14817; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:57:11 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from townsend.ericsson.se by erlang.ericsson.se (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id OAA24335; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:57:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost by townsend.ericsson.se (SMI-8.6/client-1.5) id OAA15738; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:57:08 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Cc: kent@erlang.ericsson.se Subject: Problem running NFS server Reply-To: kent@erlang.ericsson.se X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) X-URL: http://www.erlang.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990526145707M.kent@erlang.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:57:07 +0200 From: Kent Boortz X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 125 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use FreeBSD 3.1 as an NFS server in an environment with almost exclusively Solaris Sparc workstations. I needed an extra NFS server for our "Daily Builds" so I grabbed an Dell Optiplex 264MHz PII with 64 MB RAM and I put in an extra 7200 rpm 14 GB IDE disk to export using NFS. It is connected with 100 Mbit ethernet to a switch. Problem is, it has problems working as an NFS server. The load is heavy at time from up to three clients. But I expected a FreeBSD system to deal with this at least as good as an old Ultra 1 SparcStation that I used earlier as an NFS server. Could you give me hints about what the problem can be and maybe what commands to use for monitoring the problem? I include the "dmesg" output at the end of this mail. The Solaris client get lots of "NFS server turkey not responding still trying" and some /var/adm/messages NFS create failed for server turkey: error 11 (RPC: Server can't decode arguments) NFS create failed for server turkey: error 9 (RPC: Program/version mismatch) NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 10 (RPC: Procedure unavailable) NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 11 (RPC: Server can't decode arguments) NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 7 (RPC: Authentication error) NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 8 (RPC: Program unavailable) NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 9 (RPC: Program/version mismatch) In the log file from one the daily builds there was two "I/O error" writing to the NFS exported disk. The FreeBSD box has no /var/log/messages that i can relate to this problems. The FreeBSD machine has also rebooted a couple of times with no trace of the cause in the message log. It has also lost network contact a couple of times requiring a reboot (I don't have details about the state it was in, I was not the one rebooting it). No heavy load at the time for the spontaneous reboots or lost contact. I suspect DMA is disabled from the dmesg output below, how do I enable it? Can this be the problem? Is the 64MB memory the problem? Does the NFS errors above indicate ethernet card buffer overun? Is there incompatibilities between NFS clients on Solaris 2.5.1 and the NFS server on FreeBSD 3.1? Or is FreeBSD 3.1 not stable enough? Should I switch to FreeBSD 2.X? Or is it really true that IDE sucks? ;-) /kgb Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #4: Thu Apr 29 14:12:04 CEST 1999 root@scotch:/a/super/export/exec/x86.freebsd/src/sys/compile/CSLAB Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II (264.89-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping=4 Features=0x80f9ff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62291968 (60832K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02d8000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 chip3: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.15.0 xl0: <3Com 3c905 Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:91:6b:d4 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x5c on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC6835 [0x3568630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 flags 0x10 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4120MB (8438850 sectors), 8930 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 13783MB (28229040 sectors), 28005 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 2067 - 4134KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 16 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa apm0 flags 0x31 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 changing root device to wd0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 6:12:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.kiev.sovam.com (news.kiev.sovam.com [194.186.143.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503D414FA6 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail@news.kiev.sovam.com) Received: from mail by news.kiev.sovam.com with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mdTW-000B6p-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:12:02 +0300 From: Vladimir Litovka To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: Vladimir Litovka Subject: Re: Stability Date: 26 May 1999 13:12:02 GMT Message-ID: <7igrv2$19mb$1@news.kiev.sovam.com> X-Organization: Sovam Teleport Kiev (post does not reflect views of Sovam Teleport) X-Gated-By: news2list v1.0b2, (c) Vladimir Litovka X-Gated-Date: Wed May 26 13:12:02 1999 GMT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: >> FreeBSD 3.2-19990522-STABLE: when dd'ing /kernel to write protected >> floppy, it doesn't panic, but I can't kill this process in any way and > > In my case it exits immediately with an error. When using raw device it is ok. Which difference between fd0 and rfd0? Why work with rfd0 is so good in difference to fd0? Anyway, thanks a lot for help. May I safe delete fd* from /dev? -- doka To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 6:17:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lab.cba.ualr.edu (lab.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271F514D0B for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:17:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@lab.cba.ualr.edu) Received: from access12.mod1.ualr.edu (joe@access12.mod1.ualr.edu [144.167.7.12]) by lab.cba.ualr.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA05433; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:17:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:17:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe X-Sender: joe@njal.ualr.edu To: Nicolai Petri Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Outdated webpage! (www.freebsd.org) In-Reply-To: <199905261306.PAA19589@distortion.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You mean like what is on "http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html"? On Wed, 26 May 1999, Nicolai Petri wrote: > I think is it time the 3.2-release are mentioned on the web page.. (under annuncements!) > > Someone who disagreeds ??? ;) > > Regards, > And etc... > Nicolai Petri > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 6:35:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74ED514C4F; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id OAA09773; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:32:37 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id PAA06259; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24207; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:17:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA07255; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:20:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <374BF688.6295EE61@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:26:33 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kent@erlang.ericsson.se Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem running NFS server References: <19990526145707M.kent@erlang.ericsson.se> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DC665A64C7BBAA7C82152A68" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC665A64C7BBAA7C82152A68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Do you use NFS v3 with TCP (which is the default on Sun) ? If so, problems are to be expected : there was a thread on the subject on -Stable and one outcome was the recommendation to use rather UDP with NFS v3 (NFS on TCP may be better on FreeBSD v4.0-Current, but -Current should not be used for production servers - more explanations on this subject via a post by Daniel C. Sobral, dated Thu, 20 May 1999) TfH Kent Boortz wrote: > > I use FreeBSD 3.1 as an NFS server in an environment with almost > exclusively Solaris Sparc workstations. I needed an extra NFS server > for our "Daily Builds" so I grabbed an Dell Optiplex 264MHz PII with > 64 MB RAM and I put in an extra 7200 rpm 14 GB IDE disk to export > using NFS. It is connected with 100 Mbit ethernet to a switch. > > Problem is, it has problems working as an NFS server. The load is > heavy at time from up to three clients. But I expected a FreeBSD > system to deal with this at least as good as an old Ultra 1 > SparcStation that I used earlier as an NFS server. Could you give me > hints about what the problem can be and maybe what commands to use for > monitoring the problem? I include the "dmesg" output at the end of > this mail. > > The Solaris client get lots of "NFS server turkey not responding still > trying" and some /var/adm/messages > > NFS create failed for server turkey: error 11 (RPC: Server can't decode arguments) > NFS create failed for server turkey: error 9 (RPC: Program/version mismatch) > NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 10 (RPC: Procedure unavailable) > NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 11 (RPC: Server can't decode arguments) > NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 7 (RPC: Authentication error) > NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 8 (RPC: Program unavailable) > NFS lookup failed for server turkey: error 9 (RPC: Program/version mismatch) > > In the log file from one the daily builds there was two "I/O error" > writing to the NFS exported disk. The FreeBSD box has no /var/log/messages > that i can relate to this problems. > > The FreeBSD machine has also rebooted a couple of times with no trace > of the cause in the message log. It has also lost network contact a > couple of times requiring a reboot (I don't have details about the > state it was in, I was not the one rebooting it). No heavy load at the > time for the spontaneous reboots or lost contact. > > I suspect DMA is disabled from the dmesg output below, how do I enable it? > Can this be the problem? > > Is the 64MB memory the problem? > > Does the NFS errors above indicate ethernet card buffer overun? > > Is there incompatibilities between NFS clients on Solaris 2.5.1 and > the NFS server on FreeBSD 3.1? > > Or is FreeBSD 3.1 not stable enough? Should I switch to FreeBSD 2.X? > > Or is it really true that IDE sucks? ;-) > > /kgb > > Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #4: Thu Apr 29 14:12:04 CEST 1999 > root@scotch:/a/super/export/exec/x86.freebsd/src/sys/compile/CSLAB > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Pentium II (264.89-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping=4 > Features=0x80f9ff > real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) > avail memory = 62291968 (60832K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02d8000. > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 > chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 > chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 > ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 > chip3: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 > chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.15.0 > xl0: <3Com 3c905 Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.17.0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:4f:91:6b:d4 > xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > vga0: rev 0x5c on pci1.0.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: > Probing for PnP devices: > CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSC6835 [0x3568630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] > mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:0 flags 0x10 > pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 on isa > sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> > atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > psm0 not found > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa > wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): > wd0: 4120MB (8438850 sectors), 8930 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 13783MB (28229040 sectors), 28005 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S > wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy > acd0: drive speed 2067 - 4134KB/sec, 128KB cache > acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA > acd0: Audio: play, 16 volume levels > acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray > acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in > ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa > ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold > nlpt0: on ppbus 0 > nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port > ppi0: on ppbus 0 > plip0: on ppbus 0 > npx0 on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa > apm0 flags 0x31 on isa > apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 > changing root device to wd0s1a > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates > ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates > ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------DC665A64C7BBAA7C82152A68 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------DC665A64C7BBAA7C82152A68-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 7: 4:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netrinsics.com (unknown [210.74.174.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533B21554B for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id WAA04181 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:02:52 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:02:52 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199905261402.WAA04181@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Mystery DSP behavior Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a Toshiba Tecra 510CDT. Under 2.2.x, I had no problems with the sound system. Since upgrading to 3.x (from the first 3.0-RELEASE until the current -STABLE), if I send a high-bitrate audio stream to /dev/sb0 (particularly 128k mpg123 playback), it produces static and popping sounds (sort of like a heavily damaged 45rpm record). If I drop the bitrate by a factor of two (-2 switch) the quality improves significantly, but not to the point it was with 2.2.x. After the most recent upgrade, I happened to notice this console message: SoundBlaster: DSP Command(0xd4) timeout. IRQ conflict ? However, there doesn't appear to be: % dmesg | grep -i irq atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa pcic: controller irq 9 Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem might be or how to go about fixing this? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 7:24:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BD314D94 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA15406; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:08 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199905261416.PAA15406@idea.co.uk> Subject: Re: [jkh@zippy.cdrom.com: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?] To: jon@caamora.com.au (jonathan michaels) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990526140112.D20660@caamora.com.au> from "jonathan michaels" at May 26, 99 02:01:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh, piss off (happy now?) > > > --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > all > > is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? > > please note the disparity between teh public responce and teh > private one. > > why is thier this disparity ? > > put another way, so its ok to jump on the 'officilly > scanctioned' hate campaign to pile drive a person into the > ground .. but woe betide you if you come to teh designated > targets defence. > > is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? > > jonathan, whats left of this enquiring mind would like to know. > > -- > =============================================================================== > Jonathan Michaels > PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia > =========================================================== > > > --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Description: Forwarded message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (root@zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) > by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20775 > for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:44:44 +1000 (EST) > (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) > Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11872 > for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:39 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) > To: jonathan michaels > Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? > In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 13:33:57 +1000." > <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> > Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:39 -0700 > Message-ID: <11868.927690339@zippy.cdrom.com> > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > Oh piss off. > > > On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > You have said clearly what I tried to say... > > > > > > I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you > > > and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with > > > lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is > > > really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > > > > thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american > > english fan, nor is english my forst language. > > > > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. > > > > > I hope that this serves as an illustrative lesson for others, if > > > > sure, but not the ignorance you espouse so self-rightously. > > > > > nothing else. Be nice with your questions / feedback and you'll get a > > > > be nice with your responces .. it cuts both ways, and always > > read the context . not just with an eye spoiling for a fight, > > as you have so abley demonstrated int eh past, as now. > > > > > similar response. Be nasty and whiny and you'll get a face full of > > > sand and perhaps a warmer pair of pants than you're generally > > > comfortable in. Such exchanges make neither side look very good and > > > it's merely human nature for people to get upset when people try to > > > advance their causes ("listen to meeee!!") in such a manner. > > > > it was obvious from teh very start that the origianl authors > > first language was/is not american english .. maybe you should > > have taken that into concidration before launching into you > > usuall tirade and causing this whole episode of mass hysteria. > > > > > I'll close this thread by noting also, for the record, that Sergey has > > > not accomplished his goal here despite his previous assertions to the > > > contrary. He hasn't gotten the help he needed and, what's worse, he's > > > now on a bunch of people's shit lists so it's extremely unlikely, if > > > not downright impossible, that he'll get any useful help in the future > > > from any of us. I see Linux, and only Linux, in this man's future. > > > > this is a real loss for freebsd the sad thing is that we, more > > correctly you are causing this to happen more and more offten. > > what is this about amercan englsih that makes it so special > > that its purity needs to be protected so virulenlty by > > attacking so savagely every one who stray away from teh gold > > standard as espoused by the walnut creek elite cliched group > > mindset ? > > > > for a group how so adamnetly supports the freendon of speach > > and or expression you peoples sure do a lot of very active > > supporession of communications, especialy by and from people > > who are even marginally differnet from teh majorty of teh hurd. > > > > every time i see a post liek this fom you and teh like minded > > sheep it makes it so much easier to not recomend freebsd, or > > more to the point to worry a lot about how the new freebsd user > > will be treated, more so if they don't speak near perfect > > american english. > > > > how long is it going to take you smallminded people to realise > > that the world doesnt stop at teh borders of mainland usa and > > or the world is a place full of diversity of culture and > > epression and that while 'englsih' might be teh labguage of > > computing not all are as equall skilled at its daily usages and > > cross border neuances. > > > > to use teh disaparagmtn yo and your chronies sned often enught > > to me .. 'get a life, jordan', or that other old chestnut, 'grow > > up' > > > > take care .. you may just end up getting the kind of freebsd > > you are buiilding. > > > > jonathan > > > > ... i'm stupid because i was born like this, whats your excuse ? > > > > -- > > ============================================================================= > == > > Jonathan Michaels > > PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia > > =========================================================== u> > > > > > --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 8:18: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBA615389 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:17:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by gndrsh.aac.dev.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA13513; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199905261515.IAA13513@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <12073.927692253@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "May 25, 1999 09:17:33 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gnb@itga.com.au (Gregory Bond), jon@caamora.com.au (jonathan michaels), serge69@nym.alias.net (Sergey), witr@rwwa.com (Robert Withrow), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Jordan: Perhaps you could add a section to the ABOUT.TXT file to make it even > > more explicit the sort of information that makes for a useful trouble report. > > Well, this is what I already have there: > > -- > For general questions, please send email to : > > freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > > Please also have patience if your questions are not answered right > away - this mailing list is staffed purely by volunteers and they also > have real life schedules to contend with. Questions which are asked > intelligently (e.g. not "My system doesn't work! What's wrong!?") Remove the negative ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and replace it with a positive. Then give a real live example of what a _good_ ``intelligently'' asked question looks like. Explaining what not to do won't lead to what should be done :-) > also stand a far greater chance of being answered. If your question > does not contain enough information to allow the responder to generate > a meaningful answer, they generally won't. > -- > > How would you suggest it be strengthened? > > - Jordan -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD http://www.aai.dnsmgr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 8:23:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEAC14E7D for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA08937; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:22:28 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374C0839.AD2EE3FC@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:42:01 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: davids@webmaster.com, mike@smith.net.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: <199905252146.XAA05453@yedi.iaf.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > > There is one detail I miss: most commercial products are supported by > supplying limited scale fixes (OK, sometime a *lot* of them) instead of > a wholesale upgrade. > > Not that I advocate starting a patch circus like most of the commercial folks > mind you! Just an observation. We also do that, through cvsup. Of course, the process of installing said fixes involves a make world, which could as well be a black box. Can you tell the difference between that and applying a service pack? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 8:32: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FFE154A8 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7E8D32EE1A; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 3724 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:31:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Doug Rabson Subject: Re: kernel panic in 3.2 WAS Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: Sergey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andrew Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Doug Rabson wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > >> > Andrew >>=20 >> I too agree that 3.1 was Very stable and 3.2 for most things seems to b= e OK >> so >> far as I have used it for many things at the ISP I work for. However I = have >> come across a reproducable problem with 3.2. just as Sergey has spoken >> about, >> that does not seem to occur in 3.1. >>=20 >> I am testing the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching server. The si= ze >> of >> the processes that are used can grow quite large and are multithreaded.= =20 >> I have found that if I set MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ too small (like >> 512*1024*1024) I >> can make the server page fault and reboot by making it work hard. (IE ma= ke >> the >> process grow) >>=20 >> SO far a setting of (2*1024*1024*1024) for both seems to be quite stabl= e >> under >> .any load, but it seems unsettling that rather than kill a process that = is >> demanding too much memory, the kernel page faults. Especially since the >> process >> runs as a user process not as a system process. >>=20 >> I am no expert on these things, but I welcome the assistance of anyone >> willing >> to help identify the root of this problem to make FreeBSD more stable. >> Flames >> and put downs about a lack of detail or knowlege like I have seen so far= , >> please >> send to the linux list of choice to save us both some time please. I use >> FreeBSD as it is a professional OS with mostly professional people willi= ng >> to >> lend a hand. >=20 > What message is printed when the kernel page faults. If there is an > instructions pointer in the message, use 'nm -n kernel' to find which > function it crashed in. If possible, compile a kernel with DDB, run it > until it crashes and get a backtrace. Getting a full kernel dump from a > kernel compiled for debugging (use config -g CONFIG for this) is > invaluable as it allows a developer to gather as much information as > possible. >=20 > Once you have a backtrace and/or a kernel dump, you need to get someone > interested in fixing it. Find out roughly what part of the system is > involved and see if you can figure out who worked on it last. If you talk > to that person and provide them with all the information you have > gathered, then you have a chance of getting a fix (or maybe only a > workaround). >=20 Ah, good point. I had built the kernel for DDB, but didn't get a readable result as I forgot to compile my kernel with -g.=20 I woun't be back at work until Friday, but I will try that and send a copy= to the list and submit it as suggested. My Error message was basicly the same = as the one Sergey had sent to the list however. I am still very curious why the kernel would panic so easily rather than k= ill the offending process..... Nicole > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 8:49: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E15515742 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:48:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 84928 invoked by uid 100); 26 May 1999 15:48:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 15:48:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <374C0839.AD2EE3FC@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > We also do that, through cvsup. Of course, the process of installing > said fixes involves a make world, which could as well be a black > box. Can you tell the difference between that and applying a service > pack? I'm not familiar with service packs. However, I can certainly tell the difference between doing a "make world" and installing a patch from Sun. The patch doesn't change every system binary. This means it's a lot faster to install, and you don't necessarily have to reboot the system as part of the process. I'd expect installing a service pack to be a lot more painfull than installing a patch, much as installing an application on Windows 9x is a lot more painfull than doing so on a Unix box (Does WNT require a system reboot on every application install like Windows 9x?). I realized recently that a lot of the problems people have with the FreeBSD support structure and terminology is because, unlike commercial software, FreeBSD does things from the developers viewpoint. For commercial customers, the release is the first version of a software branch available. Everything that follows that is patches and improvements to that. For a developer, cutting the release disk means you're done with that branch (after that, it belongs to maintenance :-). Guess which one FreeBSD does? Do any of the commercial FreeBSD support organizations run a seperate branch and bundle patches up for their customers? ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id BAA15752; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:00:11 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374C17DE.AB0DB9F6@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:48:46 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Geff Hanoian Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do have a suggestion to make... change the name of the section on kernel debugging in the handbook. How likely is anyone who doesn't know better to think that this has any relevance on *bug reporting*? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9: 6:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE02A15299 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id KAA13341; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:05:52 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905261605.KAA13341@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: -STABLE scsi problem (bug?) In-Reply-To: <554419C71610D211B3F808003636280213B088@lant.mbp.ee> from Lauri Laupmaa at "May 26, 1999 11:58:56 am" To: mauri@aripaev.ee (Lauri Laupmaa) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG ('stable@freebsd.org') X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lauri Laupmaa wrote... [Charset iso-8859-4 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Hi > > I've lately added old but reliable Micropolis Raidion RAID 5 array and a 3rd > aic7870 adapter. Raidion is only device on this adapter, it has ID 0 and > LUNs 0 and 1. After some days I get some errors like: > > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): SCB 0x0 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > SEQADDR > == 0xa > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Queuing a BDR SCB > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34a > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack > > (da8:ahc2:0:0:1): Invalidating pack > > and then when I try to unmount (even with -f) filesystems on RAID, I get > device not configured. ls shows no files there... Your problem is that your array is going out to lunch during a read or write command. The timeout for read and write commands is 60 seconds, so my guess is that your array has buggy firmware. > Now for the BUG: If I do shutdown -r now it says syncing disks 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 > ... giving up and after reboot starts fsck EVERY filesystem ! If it can't > sync one then it reboots without syncing others... I can't do anything about that. By the way, you should send SCSI problems to the freebsd-scsi list, you're more likely to get a response there. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9:29:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [205.236.147.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE73D1502A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:29:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net ([205.236.147.18]:15883 "EHLO shattered.disturbed.net") by disturbed.net with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:29:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:29:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Perel To: jonathan michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [jkh@zippy.cdrom.com: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?] In-Reply-To: <19990526140112.D20660@caamora.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: << RAVING LUNACY SNIPPED >> In case you do not know this already, it is extremely bad form to publicize anyone's private response. This shows you are not civil enough to attempt to solve your problems except through throwing tantrums in a public forum. No to mention impolite beyond reason. You've just contradicted everything you tried to say. To quote Jordan, piss off. And don't bother replying to this. Alex G. Perel -=- AP5081 alexp@iplink.net -=- (work) veers@disturbed.net -=- (play) Disturbed Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD == The Power to Serve -=- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9:45:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uq.net.au (fox.uq.net.au [203.101.255.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA833152D9 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mynet@uq.net.au) Received: from uq.net.au (dyn-9-240.dialin.uq.net.au [203.100.9.240]) by uq.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02592; Thu, 27 May 1999 02:45:17 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-ID: <374C2539.72B948EA@uq.net.au> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:45:45 +1000 From: Andrew X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sworkman@nidlink.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adduser References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote one like that a while ago. I don't have it anymore however. You could do a search for scripts or possibly try and write it yourself. Maybe someone else on this list has a script handy that they could post? Andrew Shawn Workman wrote: > Forgive me if this is off topic. > > I am looking for an adduser script that will allow me to add users to the > system from the command line by only speciyfing username and password. > > Any info? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9:51:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABF515052 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17089; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990526095059.A7630@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:50:59 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Troy Settle , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: first time for everything... Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Troy Settle on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 06:43:18AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ===> gnu/usr.bin/sdiff > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sdiff /usr/bin > *** Error code 71 > > Now, I looked in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sdiff, and sure 'nuff, there was NO > file called sdiff for install to do it's magic on. Try looking in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sdiff. A normal `make world' puts the objects and binaries in a "shadow" tree in /usr/obj. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9:55:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from oak.iea-software.com (oak.iea-software.com [207.53.165.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4790815843 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from sycamore (unverified [207.53.165.36]) by oak.iea-software.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: <007601bea797$d42705a0$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> From: "Shawn Workman" To: "Andrew" Cc: References: <374C2539.72B948EA@uq.net.au> Subject: Re: adduser Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:50:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using pw now. I know of the security issues involved, but this machine is off the network with only root logged in. After it is on the network I will be setting up a safer more secure method of doing this for the sys admin. He is new to FreeBSD/Un*x and needed to add these users quickly before he puts the machine up.. Thanks for all the suggestions.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: Re: adduser > I wrote one like that a while ago. I don't have it anymore > however. You could do a search for scripts or possibly > try and write it yourself. Maybe someone else on this list > has a script handy that they could post? > > Andrew > > Shawn Workman wrote: > > > Forgive me if this is off topic. > > > > I am looking for an adduser script that will allow me to add users to the > > system from the command line by only speciyfing username and password. > > > > Any info? > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 9:58:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.skunk.org (unknown [207.25.53.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC5D15412 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by mailhost.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17299; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:57:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: Andrew Cc: sworkman@nidlink.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adduser In-Reply-To: <374C2539.72B948EA@uq.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 May 1999, Andrew wrote: > I wrote one like that a while ago. I don't have it anymore > however. You could do a search for scripts or possibly > try and write it yourself. Maybe someone else on this list > has a script handy that they could post? What's wrong with /usr/sbin/pw? -- Ben UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10: 7:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD99014D61 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17994; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990526100733.B7630@nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:07:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Reply-To: deobrien@ucdavis.edu References: <374C0839.AD2EE3FC@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Meyer on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 08:48:55AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm not familiar with service packs. However, I can certainly tell the > difference between doing a "make world" and installing a patch from > Sun. The patch doesn't change every system binary. However, with FreeBSD, a future patch will not undo the patch I just installed. Sun has a history of "dueling" patches when a system binary has two unrelated problems with it. Patch 1 will fix problem 1, and when you install patch 2 to fix problem 2 -- guess what! Patch 2 doesn't include the fix for problem 1. > and you don't necessarily have to reboot the system as part of the > process. But since you don't know if what was patched was something only read at startup, you always need to reboot a Sun after patching. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10: 9:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F068214D61 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06307; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: first time for everything... In-Reply-To: <19990526095059.A7630@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/sdiff > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sdiff /usr/bin > > *** Error code 71 > > > > Now, I looked in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sdiff, and sure 'nuff, there was NO > > file called sdiff for install to do it's magic on. > > Try looking in /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sdiff. > A normal `make world' puts the objects and binaries in a "shadow" tree in > /usr/obj. Ugh! I did jump the gun again, and I did skip the check on /usr/obj. After boggling at this for a while, I tried make installworld again, and it worked. Still no reason as to why it gave an error the first time around though. It's rather disconcerting when things like this happen. Makes it hard to taunt the linux crowd with how easy it is to keep a FreeBSD system up to date. :) -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10:19:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B69B14EA9 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA00628 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:19:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <026a01bea79b$e5b89000$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: PANIC & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:19:22 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Slightly changing the topic. 3.2-R did this; while doing a "make world" for ( 3.2-R + cvsup ) Can anyone tell me what this means? :( panic: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65279), pindex: 0x20 mp_lock = 010000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 boot() called on cpu#1 Syncing disks 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 giving up dumping to dev 20401, offset 0 dump 128 127 ................. 1 Auto reboot in 15 seconds ....... Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10:44:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B04D15538 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 85766 invoked by uid 100); 26 May 1999 17:44:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 17:44:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990526100733.B7630@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > I'm not familiar with service packs. However, I can certainly tell the > > difference between doing a "make world" and installing a patch from > > Sun. The patch doesn't change every system binary. > However, with FreeBSD, a future patch will not undo the patch I just > installed. Sun has a history of "dueling" patches when a system binary > has two unrelated problems with it. Patch 1 will fix problem 1, and when > you install patch 2 to fix problem 2 -- guess what! Patch 2 doesn't > include the fix for problem 1. Another difference between them - meaning it's even easier to tell the difference! Sun usually pointed you at the appropriate megapatch after that, though. Which is pretty much a black box. > > and you don't necessarily have to reboot the system as part of the > > process. > But since you don't know if what was patched was something only read at > startup, you always need to reboot a Sun after patching. You may not know - I did. Even things that were only read at startup could generally be dealt with by restarting just the process that read that. Of course, if that process was the kernel or init, you wound up rebooting anyway. And in some cases, the chain of things that depended on that change was complex enough that rebooting was simpler. In any case, I'm paranoid enough that I always rebooted after a patch that touched the system startup code, just so I wouldn't find out that the system startup was now broken when someone rebooted it during my vacation. For yet another difference - not even Sun recommends installing *every* fix. FreeBSD doesn't have any other option. Note that I'm *not* proposing such a system for FreeBSD! Merely pointing out that the differences is very noticable. ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00196; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990526134023.01fd23f0@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:40:23 -0400 To: "Greg Quinlan" , From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: PANIC & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <026a01bea79b$e5b89000$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:19 PM 5/26/99 +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: >Hi all, > >Slightly changing the topic. > >3.2-R did this; while doing a "make world" for ( 3.2-R + cvsup ) > >Can anyone tell me what this means? :( > >panic: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65279), pindex: 0x20 >mp_lock = 010000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 >boot() called on cpu#1 > >Syncing disks 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 >giving up > >dumping to dev 20401, offset 0 > >dump 128 127 ................. 1 > >Auto reboot in 15 seconds ....... If its barfing on a make world, especially at random points, my first guess would be a hardware issue. Do you have the latest BIOS for your board ? Is your memory OK ? CPU Fans are working ? etc... As make world generally stresses the box, any hardware issues that might exist tend to crop up here in the form of crashes like above.... ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10:46:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07647156B7 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08394 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > We also do that, through cvsup. Of course, the process of installing > > said fixes involves a make world, which could as well be a black > > box. Can you tell the difference between that and applying a service > > pack? > > I'm not familiar with service packs. However, I can certainly tell the > difference between doing a "make world" and installing a patch from > Sun. The patch doesn't change every system binary. This means it's a > lot faster to install, and you don't necessarily have to reboot the > system as part of the process. I've only been doing the *n*x thing for about 4.5 years now. Starting with Linux, then moving on to FreeBSD. If Sun does a "patch this, patch that, patch the next thing" sort of game, I'm glad I've never had to admin one. Sounds as bad as linux: Patch this, but only after you've upgraded that. Before that, however, you need to reinstall foo, and of course bar which foo depends on. etc. etc. etc. With FreeBSD: cd /usr/src cvsup supfile make buildworld && make installworld && reboot cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config KERNEL cd ../../compile/KERNEL make depend && make && make install && rebot And, I shit you not. I've even thought about automating this process, so that once a week (or whatever), cron would start the first part of the process, then upon first reboot, a script would check to see if the kernel was out of date. If so, build and install a new one, then reboot again. > I'd expect installing a service pack to be a lot more painfull than > installing a patch, much as installing an application on Windows 9x is > a lot more painfull than doing so on a Unix box (Does WNT require a > system reboot on every application install like Windows 9x?). Windows is braindamaged beyond repair. You don't *need* to reboot after sneezing, but it is reccomended. > I realized recently that a lot of the problems people have with the > FreeBSD support structure and terminology is because, unlike > commercial software, FreeBSD does things from the developers > viewpoint. For commercial customers, the release is the first version > of a software branch available. Everything that follows that is > patches and improvements to that. For a developer, cutting the release > disk means you're done with that branch (after that, it belongs to > maintenance :-). Guess which one FreeBSD does? It is my understanding that FreeBSD is under constant development, with several branches going at once. When a bug fix was needed, it gets applied accross the board. When a new feature has proved itself in -CURRENT, it might get pulled into -STABLE. When -STABLE has made signifigant progress over latest -RELEASE, a new -RELEASE was cut. IMO, there have been a few problems with this scheme, but nothing I can remember that didn't affect only those persons who should have been running -STABLE, but weren't. All in all, it's a pretty nice development structure compared to what I know of other vendors. > Do any of the commercial FreeBSD support organizations run a seperate > branch and bundle patches up for their customers? Like what Red Hat does for Linux? No Thank You. I would be hard pressed to leave FreeBSD, and it would seriously sadden my heart if I ever found myself in a position where I couldn't use it. -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 10:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu [130.132.143.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5DD155E4 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis.ostrovsky@yale.edu) Received: from mercury.cis.yale.edu (do33@mercury.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.247]) by pantheon-po03.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28688 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (do33@localhost) by mercury.cis.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05284 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:54:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mercury.cis.yale.edu: do33 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Ostrovsky X-Sender: do33@mercury.cis.yale.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > With FreeBSD: > > cd /usr/src > cvsup supfile > make buildworld && make installworld && reboot > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config KERNEL > cd ../../compile/KERNEL > make depend && make && make install && rebot Not to be too picky, but I always thought you should rebuild your kernel BEFORE you reboot after making world as some things like ps might not work properly afterwards. It also saves you one reboot. :) Is it me, or has this thread totally gone out of control (but in a civil, FreeBSD way)? :) Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dennis Ostrovsky ** Department of Chemistry ** Yale University E-mail: den@master.chem.yale.edu WWW: http://pantheon.yale.edu/~do33 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11: 5:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956615538 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.65]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA118A; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:26 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA66769; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <374C17DE.AB0DB9F6@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: Geff Hanoian , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-May-99 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > I do have a suggestion to make... change the name of the section on > kernel debugging in the handbook. How likely is anyone who doesn't > know better to think that this has any relevance on *bug reporting*? Suggestion noted... Shall I send-pr it? (low stab at pun ;) On a sidenote: how good are ye with debugging Daniel? If so, may I borrow some of yer time in private email on this topic? It will be for the PDP... 'gards, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11: 5:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88F3B1553A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 85941 invoked by uid 100); 26 May 1999 18:05:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 May 1999 18:05:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > If Sun does a "patch this, patch that, patch the next thing" sort of game, > I'm glad I've never had to admin one. > > Sounds as bad as linux: > > Patch this, but only after you've upgraded that. Before that, > however, you need to reinstall foo, and of course bar which foo > depends on. etc. etc. etc. Well, I've never used a commercial Linux system, but Sun's isn't quite that bad. Patches seldom depend on other patches (though, as was pointed out elsewhere, they do sometimes collide). Products may depend on patches - but you just have one level things to deal with. The real win is the ports system. No longer "Get package X. Now go get Y, Z and W. Install Y and Z, then get M & N and install those. Now install W. Finally install X", but "cd /usr/ports/stuff/X; make install" (and sometimes curse because it's broken). This has been quite accurately describe as a sysadmins wet dream. Now, if only it had a hook to apply local patches, so I could put the Python & PostGreSQL modules in the apache build... > With FreeBSD: > > cd /usr/src > cvsup supfile > make buildworld && make installworld && reboot ... find machine dead, reboot from fixit disk, resup, ... :-) > > I'd expect installing a service pack to be a lot more painfull than > > installing a patch, much as installing an application on Windows 9x is > > a lot more painfull than doing so on a Unix box (Does WNT require a > > system reboot on every application install like Windows 9x?). > Windows is braindamaged beyond repair. You don't *need* to reboot after > sneezing, but it is reccomended. Which goes along with reinstalling to cure anything. But what about WNT? > All in all, it's a pretty nice development structure compared to what I > know of other vendors. It's different. Which is causes people to get confused about what to expect. > > Do any of the commercial FreeBSD support organizations run a seperate > > branch and bundle patches up for their customers? > > Like what Red Hat does for Linux? No Thank You. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not for everybody. I can see that a commercial ISP might prefer a system where they fed someone else money, and got 1) security patches, and 2) fixes for bugs they encountered. It certainly makes pointy-haired managers happy if they can spend money on something like that. My first reaction on dealing with a Unix that came without source was to compare it to castration. I'm glad the world has gotten back to the state where I can run a Unix with source without handing over an ungodly amount of money, my firstborn child, or both (Jordan, did you sign that thing Sun wanted us to sign to look at their sources?) My thanks to the good folks of CSRG (and others I probably don't know) for making that happen, and the FreeBSD developers for continuing to improve it. ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.65]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA3F10; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:25 +0200 Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (abaddon@daemon [192.168.0.1]) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA66763; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:05:39 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: "Michael C. Vergallen" Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jonathan michaels Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-May-99 Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> >> People saw this thread only from a pure user/developer perspective. Now >> look at it from a workflow perspective. The mail from Sergey, plus other >> pr's I see in the gnats database clearly lack all components to make >> accurate suggestions on the next steps possible, and after more than >> 10000 >> pr's I can imagine people getting tired of dragging info out of people. > Yes shure ..but could it just be that the poeple who submit the report > don't really understand what the developer needs to be able to > help...sometimes poeple think they are helping by submitting a problem > report but realy don't quite know complete to make the report in a way > that makes sense to the developer.. True, those people are out there as well and trust me, they don't get shot down immediately (just take a look at my first few pr's *blush*) But I think it has been said/posted/written on a very diverse number of handbooks/lists/pages/etc that basic information is always the exact error and noteworthy system configuration (as well as kernel information). >> >> It can be as simple as noting the error after certain actions took >> place. >> Or as elaborate as booting with -v, crashdumping the OS and gdb'ing it. > ok shure that is probably enough info for someone who doesn't do anything > else but develop code..however for most poeple the line above could be > just like chinese or whatever. Sorry, but a Unix workstation is not a Windows-95-like playtoy... In Windows I accept the OS crashing for no apparent reason. With Unix everything is logical and has a reason. Be it by design or from faulty hardware. Thus people are required, at least in my (humble) opinion to read up on what they are doing exactly... Unix was never meant for people refusing to read docs. Next thing is that the University of Berkeley is going to be sued by someone, who got his account shut down due to leaking private IP addresses to the Internet, who uses a BSD IP stack on some system. And if my line was like Chinese to someone, then ask on questions what it meant, or go read the handbook (which was one of the first docs I read after installing in fact (/usr/share/doc is such a great resource). >> And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there, >> once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs... > Probably right ...and no I don't think it is not the case of not reading > the docs but comprehending them..some poeple have a limited comprehention > of the english language ...so that could be it..( exaple if I wrote to > you in technical french you probably would not be able to comprehend it > aldo you would be able to read it same thing goes for poeple not > comprehending english. maybe one should write docs a 10th grade US scholar > would coprehend...then this would be less accurant. Well, let's put it the other way, the only submissions I see for changes in docs or requests for clarity come from our own development team. How's that for irony? And btw, as people who bother to read the resources page will undoubtely found out by now there are two very good resources for documentation available for quite some time now, namely: www.freebsdzine.org and www.freebsddiary.com and these were written in a no-nonsense, clear to understand for all style. So people still complaining about documentation being sparse they obviously haven't been spending enough time finding answers. To put everything together: The FreeBSD lists provide FAR more feedback than any commercial company about bugs/problems reported. For a non-commercial product this is just fantastic. Thus one cannot DEMAND 24/7 support giving sparse information, this might work for a Microsoft or a Novell (who gladly account a fair amount of cash for yer question), but not for FreeBSD. You want good support? Go look at the freebsdmall.com. The developers are willing to fix stuff, provided they get enough information to work with. They are _NOT_ helpdesk employees, so do not treat them accordingly. And djeez, do I start to sound like Jordan =P (at least in length of mails ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmodai(at)wxs.nl The FreeBSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist *BSD: Accept no limitations... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:14:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mark.kingsu.ab.ca (mark.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9448214DF8 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Received: from KingsU.ab.ca (kingsnet.kingsu.ab.ca [199.185.113.33]) by mark.kingsu.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA12143 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:14:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bwood@KingsU.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199905261814.MAA12143@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Received: from KINGSNET/SpoolDir by KingsU.ab.ca (Mercury 1.44); 26 May 99 12:14:35 -0700 Received: from SpoolDir by KINGSNET (Mercury 1.44); 26 May 99 12:14:34 -0700 From: "Broderick Wood" Organization: The King's University College To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:14:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: CVSUP Scripts X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.10) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some of the recent comments have me wondering what people have done to automate the process of staying current with -STABLE using CVSUP. I am already doing a CVSUP and make buildworld on a weekly basis. What else can I get the scripts to do without killing the box while I'm away, and what steps are then left? I would prefer to hear about people who are actually using their scripts, not just "This SHOULD Work" scenarios... --------------------------- -BMW- Don't just stand there! Pray something! (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca) Broderick Wood, Director of Information Technology Services The King's University College 9125 - 50 Street Edmonton, Alberta T6B 2H3 (780) 465-8315 (780) 465-3534 (FAX) ><> <>< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:20:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B2215671 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA10054; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990526141936.00dcb100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:19:36 -0400 To: Troy Settle , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Patching vs. cvsup (was Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:46 PM 5/26/99 -0400, Troy Settle wrote: >If Sun does a "patch this, patch that, patch the next thing" sort of game, >I'm glad I've never had to admin one. > >Sounds as bad as linux: > > Patch this, but only after you've upgraded that. Before that, > however, you need to reinstall foo, and of course bar which foo > depends on. etc. etc. etc. > >With FreeBSD: > > cd /usr/src > cvsup supfile > make buildworld && make installworld && reboot > cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf > config KERNEL > cd ../../compile/KERNEL > make depend && make && make install && rebot Yes, well put. I too have been administering BSD type boxes (starting with BSDi 1.1) for about the same time. I remember back in the 1.1 days applying patches for BSDi, and thinking that this was 'status quo'. When I learned how CVSUP worked on FreeBSD, its as if I was in heaven! Patches ? No thank you! I imagine from a developer point of view, that this also makes life that much more difficult trying to 'regression test' as Microsoft puts it to look for unanticipated consequences/interactions, let alone from an administrator or end user's point of view. I mean, its pretty well accepted as a fact of life that on NT, when you install from the original CD any software, you need to reapply the service pack, and any relavant hot fixes... Oh, but wait, which hot fix is relavant ? And when they say, "only apply this fix if you are effected by the problem", does that mean I am not effected by this nasty security hole ? And instead, should I wait 4months for the next service pack/release ? No thanks. Its better to try and expect a little more of the end user. Ultimately, I think patches give the end user a false sense of simplicity. If it works, great. If it doesnt, as the poster said, > Patch this, but only after you've upgraded that. Before that, > however, you need to reinstall foo, and of course bar which foo > depends on. etc. etc. etc. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:32:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2AE14E26 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA233098229; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:17:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: jonathan michaels Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [jkh@zippy.cdrom.com: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ?] In-Reply-To: <19990526140112.D20660@caamora.com.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? Yes. My FreeBSD still works just as fine, and my day is brightened knowing how silly you are. > please note the disparity between teh public responce and teh > private one. Wow. Forwarding private mail into a public forum. You sure are the better man. > why is thier this disparity ? Why are there these hard-to-read sentences? > put another way, so its ok to jump on the 'officilly > scanctioned' hate campaign to pile drive a person into the > ground .. but woe betide you if you come to teh designated > targets defence. Please restate in English. Thanks. > is this the kind of freebsd you all want ? Yes. > jonathan, whats left of this enquiring mind would like to know. Hopefully you'll go away. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:35:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FC914E26 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA231348031; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: jonathan michaels Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <19990526133357.B20660@caamora.com.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. Someone who pitches a fit as soon as something doesn't work and he doesn't have the brains to read the handbook and help us help him. Darn. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:37: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (unknown [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8821512B for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:35:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA233258434; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:20:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Geff Hanoian Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <199905260423.VAA06856@kusanagi.boing.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 May 1999, Geff Hanoian wrote: > Maybe just a suggestion. I will admit that the developers of BSD are > EXCELLENT programmers and providing this whole thing for $0. And that's > a GREAT thing. But perhaps if those people can't be polite and > considerate they shouldn't answer questions, until they've had a mellow > out break? Read the charter of this mailing list. It is a technical list. Not a whining, empty-question list. -questions is for handholding, and that's why I'm not subscribed to it, but this one. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 11:46:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C99315456 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01026; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Wed, 26 May 1999 11:37:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:37:30 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Bill Fumerola Cc: jonathan michaels , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: billf@chc-chimes.com,jon@caamora.com.au,jkh@zippy.cdrom.com,serge69@nym.alias.net,witr@rwwa.com,freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Dan Akroyd said in Dragnet: "just the facts ma'am". Is there any way you people could keep your frustrations and ego off the list? I am subscribed so I can keep current on _technical_ issues, not to have my mailspool filled with venomous commentary. -Kip Macy On Wed, 26 May 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, jonathan michaels wrote: > > > pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another > > possibly excellent contributor out of teh freebsd community > > because of your arrogant, childish stupidity. > > Someone who pitches a fit as soon as something doesn't work and he doesn't > have the brains to read the handbook and help us help him. > > Darn. > > - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - > - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 12:15:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FC815521 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA15173; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:12:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA07515; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:11:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:11:31 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Sergey , Robert Withrow , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jonathan michaels Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > On 26-May-99 Michael C. Vergallen wrote: > > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> > >> People saw this thread only from a pure user/developer perspective. Now > >> look at it from a workflow perspective. The mail from Sergey, plus other > >> pr's I see in the gnats database clearly lack all components to make > >> accurate suggestions on the next steps possible, and after more than > >> 10000 > >> pr's I can imagine people getting tired of dragging info out of people. > > Yes shure ..but could it just be that the poeple who submit the report > > don't really understand what the developer needs to be able to > > help...sometimes poeple think they are helping by submitting a problem > > report but realy don't quite know complete to make the report in a way > > that makes sense to the developer.. > > True, those people are out there as well and trust me, they don't get shot > down immediately (just take a look at my first few pr's *blush*) > > But I think it has been said/posted/written on a very diverse number of > handbooks/lists/pages/etc that basic information is always the exact error > and noteworthy system configuration (as well as kernel information). Okey fine for someone who comprehends english to a decent degree..but eh let me tell you from experience with a simple orderform I for a product explicitly stating NOT TO send credit-card details by email because of the risks involved... I can show atleast 100 e-mails who have the creditcard date in them sent to me. So you can see that poeple are normaly realy good at not understanding stuf they don't want to. > >> It can be as simple as noting the error after certain actions took > >> place. > >> Or as elaborate as booting with -v, crashdumping the OS and gdb'ing it. > > ok shure that is probably enough info for someone who doesn't do anything > > else but develop code..however for most poeple the line above could be > > just like chinese or whatever. > > Sorry, but a Unix workstation is not a Windows-95-like playtoy... In > Windows I accept the OS crashing for no apparent reason. With Unix > everything is logical and has a reason. Be it by design or from faulty > hardware. Thus people are required, at least in my (humble) opinion to read > up on what they are doing exactly... Unix was never meant for people > refusing to read docs. Hey you don't have to convice me ...I know this in the case however in a way we are discussing like we did for the floppy sage I started a few moons age... the point I was trying to make is that if developers want to recieve less pr's that are useless to them well just maybe they should create a ridgit structure so that poeple have to suply all the info via a form based report or something and only if the data is all there the report gets transmitted or else they could try to make it a lot easyer for poeple to get to grips with what is required for a pr. e.i. don't ask a system admin to read 500 pages before he can submit a pr due to time constraints it will never get read anyway that is just what I was sugesting ...however you tend to disagree with this sugestion okey fine ...but then you will probably continue to have more poeple who suply bad pr's what you all say you want to avoid.... > >> And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there, > >> once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs... > > Probably right ...and no I don't think it is not the case of not reading > > the docs but comprehending them..some poeple have a limited comprehention > > of the english language ...so that could be it..( exaple if I wrote to > > you in technical french you probably would not be able to comprehend it > > aldo you would be able to read it same thing goes for poeple not > > comprehending english. maybe one should write docs a 10th grade US scholar > > would coprehend...then this would be less accurant. > Well, let's put it the other way, the only submissions I see for changes in > docs or requests for clarity come from our own development team. How's that > for irony? Hey don't blame me for what poeple don't do or do... Michael --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 12:35:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bozeman.pwrh.com (bozeman.vlt.com [199.201.184.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E9315748 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ptacek@pwrh.com) Received: by bozeman.pwrh.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:36:25 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ptacek, Chris" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gdb cores (3.2-RELEASE) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:36:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I seem to be having a problem with gdb. I recently installed 3.2-RELEASE a few days ago and so far it seems to be doing alright, however one of my programs cored and when I went to examine the core with gdb, gdb cored: #gdb -c gdb.core GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". Core was generated by `gdb'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Segmentation fault (core dumped) It also cores (as shown above) when I try and examine the gdb.core file. I have a small drive so I havn't been able to upgrade to 3.2-STABLE just yet, but I didn't see anything in the list search. Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 12:38:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.cl.msu.edu (phoenix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B4515707 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikhala@phoenix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from ikhala@localhost) by phoenix.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA43992; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:41:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ikhala) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:40:59 -0400 From: "I'Khala" To: Broderick Wood Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP Scripts Message-ID: <19990526154059.B42978@phoenix.cl.msu.edu> References: <199905261814.MAA12143@mark.kingsu.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905261814.MAA12143@mark.kingsu.ab.ca>; from Broderick Wood on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 12:14:25PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Broderick Wood (bwood@KingsU.ab.ca): > Some of the recent comments have me wondering what people have > done to automate the process of staying current with -STABLE using > CVSUP. I am already doing a CVSUP and make buildworld on a > weekly basis. What else can I get the scripts to do without killing the > box while I'm away, and what steps are then left? > > I would prefer to hear about people who are actually using their > scripts, not just "This SHOULD Work" scenarios... What I've done is the following 1. created a file in /etc/periodic/daily called 800.update-sources 2. 800.update-sources calls the script /usr/local/etc/sources 3. /usr/local/etc/sources does a 'cd /usr/src' and performs an 'make update' 4. in /etc/make.conf I have 'SUPFILE=/usr/local/etc/cvsup/stable-supfile', 'SUPFILE1=/usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile' Pretty simple. Just use any of the scripts in '/etc/periodic/daily' as an example. I usually do a buildworld & installworld by hand, but I'm going to begin a weekly automated buildowrld on my -CURRENT boxes, because I'm finding out that this would be the most prudent thing for me ... #;^) HTH > --------------------------- > > -BMW- > > Don't just stand there! Pray something! > > (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca) > Broderick Wood, > Director of Information Technology Services > The King's University College > 9125 - 50 Street > Edmonton, Alberta > T6B 2H3 > (780) 465-8315 > (780) 465-3534 (FAX) > i'khala (Still thinking of a witty .signature file ... #;^) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 12:39:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.javanet.com (mail1.javanet.com [205.219.162.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440F21577A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from media@mail1.nai.net) Received: from [209.150.39.11] (ct-hartford-hiper1262.javanet.com [209.150.39.11]) by mail1.javanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA23190; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01be98d0$5ffba760$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Greg Quinlan" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" From: media@mail1.nai.net Subject: Re: Kernel Compile Warnings Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:27 PM +0100 5/7/99, Greg Quinlan wrote: > After carefully checking the latest kernel compile of 3.1-Stable (03 >May 1999) I noticed the following: ../../i386/isa/npx.c:126: warning: >`timezero' declared `static' but never define >d > ../../pci/ahc_pci.c: In function `ahc_pci_attach': >../../pci/ahc_pci.c:563: warning: passing arg 2 of `check_extport' from >incompat >ible pointer type > anyone interested! Greg That's the version I downloaded and installed. Does that mean I should download a more recent snapshot?? THANX!! PEACE OUT :) MARK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 13:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from riq.qc.ca (socrate.riq.qc.ca [199.84.128.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B9E14F28 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mario.Bergeron@lyre.qc.ca) Received: from Berlioz (riq-45-148.riq.qc.ca [204.19.45.148]) by riq.qc.ca (1.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01892 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990526162002.006c78fc@mail.lyre.qc.ca> X-Sender: mberger@mail.lyre.qc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:20:04 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mario Bergeron Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 14:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD2715805 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03682; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905262111.OAA03682@implode.root.com> To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PANIC & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 18:19:22 BST." <026a01bea79b$e5b89000$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:11:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hi all, > >Slightly changing the topic. > >3.2-R did this; while doing a "make world" for ( 3.2-R + cvsup ) > >Can anyone tell me what this means? :( > >panic: vm_page_free: invalid wire count (65279), pindex: 0x20 >mp_lock = 010000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 >boot() called on cpu#1 Looks like bad memory - the wire count is wrong by 256. Is this panic reproducible? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 14:37:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2015E14F5F for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir-freebsd-stable@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10mlMU-0007Kk-00 for FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:37:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:37:17 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: foo Message-ID: <19990526173717.C26439@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 14:37:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D369914F5F for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA54132; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:29:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:29:01 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Nicole Harrington Cc: Sergey , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andrew Subject: Re: kernel panic in 3.2 WAS Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > On 25-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > >> > Andrew > >> > >> I too agree that 3.1 was Very stable and 3.2 for most things seems to be OK > >> so > >> far as I have used it for many things at the ISP I work for. However I have > >> come across a reproducable problem with 3.2. just as Sergey has spoken > >> about, > >> that does not seem to occur in 3.1. > >> > >> I am testing the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching server. The size > >> of > >> the processes that are used can grow quite large and are multithreaded. > >> I have found that if I set MAXDSIZ and DFLDSIZ too small (like > >> 512*1024*1024) I > >> can make the server page fault and reboot by making it work hard. (IE make > >> the > >> process grow) > >> > >> SO far a setting of (2*1024*1024*1024) for both seems to be quite stable > >> under > >> .any load, but it seems unsettling that rather than kill a process that is > >> demanding too much memory, the kernel page faults. Especially since the > >> process > >> runs as a user process not as a system process. > >> > >> I am no expert on these things, but I welcome the assistance of anyone > >> willing > >> to help identify the root of this problem to make FreeBSD more stable. > >> Flames > >> and put downs about a lack of detail or knowlege like I have seen so far, > >> please > >> send to the linux list of choice to save us both some time please. I use > >> FreeBSD as it is a professional OS with mostly professional people willing > >> to > >> lend a hand. > > > > What message is printed when the kernel page faults. If there is an > > instructions pointer in the message, use 'nm -n kernel' to find which > > function it crashed in. If possible, compile a kernel with DDB, run it > > until it crashes and get a backtrace. Getting a full kernel dump from a > > kernel compiled for debugging (use config -g CONFIG for this) is > > invaluable as it allows a developer to gather as much information as > > possible. > > > > Once you have a backtrace and/or a kernel dump, you need to get someone > > interested in fixing it. Find out roughly what part of the system is > > involved and see if you can figure out who worked on it last. If you talk > > to that person and provide them with all the information you have > > gathered, then you have a chance of getting a fix (or maybe only a > > workaround). > > > > Ah, good point. I had built the kernel for DDB, but didn't get a readable > result as I forgot to compile my kernel with -g. > I woun't be back at work until Friday, but I will try that and send a copy to > the list and submit it as suggested. My Error message was basicly the same as > the one Sergey had sent to the list however. > > I am still very curious why the kernel would panic so easily rather than kill > the offending process..... It really depends on what is going on. If it gets an unexpected page fault in kernel mode, it really has to panic because something is badly wrong and attempting to continue would risk even more data loss than the panic itself. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 14:54:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDF615665 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA03647; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:51:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01115; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:26:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905261826.UAA01115@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <374C0839.AD2EE3FC@newsguy.com> from "Daniel C. Sobral" at "May 26, 1999 11:42: 1 pm" To: dcs@newsguy.com (Daniel C. Sobral) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: davids@webmaster.com, mike@smith.net.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Daniel C. Sobral wrote ... > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > There is one detail I miss: most commercial products are supported by > > supplying limited scale fixes (OK, sometime a *lot* of them) instead of > > a wholesale upgrade. > > > > Not that I advocate starting a patch circus like most of the commercial folks > > mind you! Just an observation. > > We also do that, through cvsup. Of course, the process of installing > said fixes involves a make world, which could as well be a black > box. Can you tell the difference between that and applying a service > pack? Yes. Make world on -STABLE generally works. Service packs don't ;-) I'm known to break NT servers when I touch them, so no need to convince me.. Wilko | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 14:59:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rio.i-plus.net (rio.i-plus.net [209.100.20.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F24B157B1 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-Plus.net) Received: from localhost (st@localhost) by rio.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23950; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Mike Meyer wrote: > > With FreeBSD: > > > > cd /usr/src > > cvsup supfile > > make buildworld && make installworld && reboot > > ... find machine dead, reboot from fixit disk, resup, ... :-) Note the syntax... it won't install unless the build succeeds. It won't reboot unless both build and install succeed. I generally only do that whole thing when bringing a new server up. On production boxes, I'm *much* more careful. Both cases, I've not had a problem yet. (I also run that stuff in the background, sending the output from build and install into respective log files for later review). > > > I'd expect installing a service pack to be a lot more painfull than > > > installing a patch, much as installing an application on Windows 9x is > > > a lot more painfull than doing so on a Unix box (Does WNT require a > > > system reboot on every application install like Windows 9x?). > > Windows is braindamaged beyond repair. You don't *need* to reboot after > > sneezing, but it is reccomended. > > Which goes along with reinstalling to cure anything. But what about > WNT? Meant Windows in general. 3.x/95/98/NT/2k/etc. Though NT4 Server and Win2k are actually pretty OK on networking stuff, not needing a reboot for a DNS change. > > > All in all, it's a pretty nice development structure compared to what I > > know of other vendors. > > It's different. Which is causes people to get confused about what to > expect. True... it took me a good 6 months to really get into it. Many times I wanted to go back to linux (once, I even got as far as installing slackware). But, I kept saying to myself that linux would be a nightmare 10x worse. > > > Do any of the commercial FreeBSD support organizations run a seperate > > > branch and bundle patches up for their customers? > > > > Like what Red Hat does for Linux? No Thank You. > > Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not for everybody. I > can see that a commercial ISP might prefer a system where they fed > someone else money, and got 1) security patches, and 2) fixes for bugs > they encountered. It certainly makes pointy-haired managers happy if > they can spend money on something like that. Not *all* managers are like that. Our head honcho just about creamed himself when I told him that I could build an ISP for the cost of hardware and little to nothing on software. Having someone/somewhere to point fingers at can be a good thing in some companies. Having commercial support for the platform your business depends on is comforting to most management types. -- Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 15: 0:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from helios.dnttm.ru (dnttm-gw.rssi.ru [193.232.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97604157DB for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by helios.dnttm.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1/IP-3) with UUCP id BAA21970; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:53:29 +0400 Received: from tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA01697; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:58:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru) Message-Id: <199905262158.BAA01697@tejblum.dnttm.rssi.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Mike Smith , Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gdb -k & Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 09:59:21 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:58:08 +0400 From: Dmitrij Tejblum Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Rabson wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Nope that didn't work.... the kernel.0 your referring to will not have any > > > debug code.... but kernel.debug should. Yet that didn't work either. > > > > I typically just install the debug kernel, so that all the kernels in > > the dump area contain debug symbols. > > > > > # cd /var/crash > > > # ls > > > bounds kernel.0 vmcore.0 > > > > > > # gdb -k kernel.0 --core vmcore.0 > > > GNU gdb 4.18 > > > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > > > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > > > conditions. > > > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > > > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > > > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > > > (no debugging symbols found)... > > > kernel symbol `SMP_prvspace' not found. > > > (kgdb) where > > > No stack. > > > (kgdb) q > > > > Weird. I can only wonder if there's a problem with dumps taken on SMP > > systems; everything else ought to work. You might want to poke Doug > > Rabson just in case something broke in the recent gdb changes. > > I think Dmitrij has just fixed my mistake. Actually, that was Luoqi who fixed it. (I just wanted to answer the question). Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 15: 6:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25AA14DF7 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from netinfo3.ubc.ca ([137.82.27.47] ident=dustinl) by mail.unixg.ubc.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mlor-0000zH-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Lang X-Sender: dustinl@netinfo3.ubc.ca Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (off-topic) Hehehe.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > And it's documented in the docs how to best report problems. And there, > once again, we have the problem of not reading the docs... I'm a developer of children's software and getting people to read docs is a long-standing problem. *grin* dstn. ---------------------------------------------------- -- Dustin Lang, dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca -- (java developer, linux guy, freak with rainbow hair) User, n.: a particularly slow and unreliable input/ output device that is attached by default to the standard input and output streams. (stolen from a Gamelan article, author unknown) ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 15:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A114C23 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:31 -0400 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105908@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Wilko Bulte' Cc: "'stable@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:37:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm no rabid anti-ms protestor, but I have one thing to say. Never.. ever, so long as you live, ever, even if it's life and death, uninstall MS Internet Exploiter from NT. hahaha.. I don't think my IT department was to happy about the overly informative blue screen that came up each time my system tried to boot. If my FreeBSD machine ever panic's because I installed/uninstall lynx, or lynx makes itself the default shell for root, and I have to browse /dev like a web page, I may have to see what all the hub-bub is about linux! ;^) -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilko Bulte [SMTP:wilko@yedi.iaf.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:27 PM > To: dcs@newsguy.com > Cc: davids@webmaster.com; mike@smith.net.au; serge69@nym.alias.net; > freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? > > As Daniel C. Sobral wrote ... > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > There is one detail I miss: most commercial products are supported by > > > supplying limited scale fixes (OK, sometime a *lot* of them) instead > of > > > a wholesale upgrade. > > > > > > Not that I advocate starting a patch circus like most of the > commercial folks > > > mind you! Just an observation. > > > > We also do that, through cvsup. Of course, the process of installing > > said fixes involves a make world, which could as well be a black > > box. Can you tell the difference between that and applying a service > > pack? > > Yes. Make world on -STABLE generally works. Service packs don't ;-) > > I'm known to break NT servers when I touch them, so no need to convince > me.. > > Wilko > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD > - > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl > http://www.freebsd.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 15:36:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8CE14C12 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA56757; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:36:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:36:36 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Ptacek, Chris" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gdb cores (3.2-RELEASE) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Ptacek, Chris wrote: > I seem to be having a problem with gdb. I recently installed > 3.2-RELEASE a few days ago and so far it seems to be > doing alright, however one of my programs cored and when > I went to examine the core with gdb, gdb cored: This patch might fix it: Index: solib.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/gdb/gdb/solib.c,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.5 -r1.6 --- solib.c 1999/05/02 11:23:28 1.5 +++ solib.c 1999/05/22 08:25:02 1.6 @@ -1151,7 +1151,7 @@ SVR4, it has no name. For others (Solaris 2.3 for example), it does have a name, so we can no longer use a missing name to decide when to ignore it. */ - if (!IGNORE_FIRST_LINK_MAP_ENTRY (new -> lm)) + if (new && !IGNORE_FIRST_LINK_MAP_ENTRY (new -> lm)) { int errcode; char *buffer; -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 17:21:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20BB14E48 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10mnvU-0000Kq-00 for FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:21:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:21:36 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: foo Message-ID: <19990526202136.C1030@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doh. Not an auspicious start, thats what I get for c&p addresses from web pages when I'm not awake. Sorry about that. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 18: 0:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F015D14FA6 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id UAA21110 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 May 1999 20:00:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00769 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:50:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:50:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (off-topic) thanks! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is long winded, opinionated, largely irrelevant and should be deleted. On Tue, 25 May 1999, Dustin Lang wrote: > >Hi, > >I've been on this list for about two days now. I'm one of those Linux >brats who's considering trying out FreeBSD. In fact, I think I might try >to make Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris co-exist. Hey, it could work... Dustin -- thank you for your post. I was debating whether or not to add my two bits when your post showed up. The answer to your question about Solaris coexisting is -- no. the way x86 Solaris installs will generally take an entire disk. _If_ lilo or FreeBSD's boot mechanism can figure out how to boot Solaris off a second drive __and__ if Solaris could live with that, you _might_ make it work. But from what I've seen, I wouldn't be willing to try it. Further, after using FreeBSD, Solaris is _extremely_ frustrating. I've been using FreeBSD since 2.0 days (early '94, I think.) Back then, I was running SunOS 4.1 in a commercial environment and found that FreeBSD was actually _more_ stable than Sun's product. The hardware was, unfortunately, no where up to the task and from that time till now, 99.9% of my problems have been hardware. I ran Linux for a time, as well. Slackware, mostly. For a while, it did what I wanted. But I got tired of the endless chasing of upgrades and fixes. In addition, of the two breakins I've had to deal with, both were Linux. (Both cases were Red Hat of different versions.) At the time these Linux boxes were penetrated, two FreeBSD servers were running on the same network. The attempts were made on those, as well, but none succeeded. You have to work harder to harden a Linux box than any of the *BSDs to create a secure system. The original thread was about stability. I have 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 3.1 and 3.2-STABLE boxes running in production. The _only_ stability problems I've ever seen came from hardware. Most generic PC hardware out there could suck the scum off the bottom of rocks, but there is also a growing selection of higher quality parts available. My experience has proven to me that, if you pick your hardware carefully and configure it properly, you will have no problem. Now -- this is thanks to all those who have contributed to the development of FreeBSD: I work mostly with AIX, but also Solaris. On lesser hardware, FreBSD has proven to be as stable as either. The Fixes list that comes out every week for AIX is longer than the outstanding PRs for FreeBSD. The patch list for Solaris is equally impressive. The fix list for Linux is almost non-existant. FreeBSD is the easiest OS to install and configure that I've ever used. AIX comes close, Solaris is a distant second. Keeping a FreeBSD system up to date is, hands down, the best I've seen. Linux falls down near the bottom. FreeBSD is also one of the easiest to administer in a production environment. In fact, I get very little time on the FreeBSD production machines, because there is no need. My FreeBSD machines only go down for hardware failures, maintenance, or power outages. (Bone head users have also played a part, but that's a different story.) So -- the answer to the original question about stability is: read, learn and make sure the hardware is good. I do, and FreeBSD is as good or better that anything else I've worked on. For you, FreeBSD is a good choice for a personal OS. Once you understand it, you'll find that it's rather boring at times, since it's so easy to keep up-to-date and you don't have to chase the latest rpms, if they exist. If you have no tolerence for grief, stay with -stable. If you want to bleed on the edge, go with -current. But, in truth, from what little experience I've had, -current hasn't been as unstable as AIX 4.2 or the average Linux "distribution";) Good luck. The only reason I post it to this list is that the answer to the original question is: "Yes, it's stable." -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 21: 9:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1823914DE0 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA68338 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374CC56F.237C228A@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:09:19 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Heads up! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG '/usr/sbin/arp' will need to be recompiled to work properly after the addition of Token ring support to 3.2++ today. if_dl.h in /usr/include/net should also be replaced from /sys/net before doing the recompile to get the correct new structure. oh hell, the following 3 files might as well be moved there just to keep tings in sync. if_arp.h if_dl.h if_media.h julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 26 23:47:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3F014C45 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id JAA82843; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:45:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:45:19 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Korvus Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dummynet crashes Message-ID: <19990527094519.B77071@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Korvus , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01bf01bea7e6$dd54ee40$7e05fea9@korvus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <01bf01bea7e6$dd54ee40$7e05fea9@korvus>; from Korvus on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 10:15:44PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Redirected to -stable] On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 10:15:44PM -0400, Korvus wrote: > My friend asked me to post this problem to the questions list on his behalf: > > > When dummynet (bandwidth limiting and piping > > thing) is used under fbsd 3.1-release it seems to crash alot. > > It also seems that it never crashes when you run ipfw.setup (our > > script that sets the pipes and assigns rules to those pipes) the first > > time, but when it is run again durring the same boot, it crashes. > > If anyone knows anything about dummynet, please send an email my way. The > only messages I could find in my personal archive of this list involve > people talking about how their server crashes when they have dummynet > compiled in.... Thanks... > > - Jeff Poole > Try the following patch: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c.diff?r1=1.103.2.3&r2=1.103.2.4 -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 0: 0:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from usgs.gov (igsmn002.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.41.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EB53151C6 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsowders@usgs.gov) Received: from IGSMN-Message_Server by usgs.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:00:20 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:02:41 -0700 From: "Robert Sowders" To: jon@caamora.com.au, serge69@nym.alias.net, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, witr@rwwa.com Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ** For Your Eyes Only ** >>>> jonathan michaels 5/25/99 8:33:57 PM >>> >On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 02:57:09PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> > You have said clearly what I tried to say... >>=20 >> I still don't see a productive exchange taking place, and I blame you >> and you specifically for making it non-productive by starting it with >> lots of hair-pulling and "gosh, can it be that the great FreeBSD is >> really a nasty piece of crap?" style statements. > >thats not the way it read to me .. but then i'm not an american=20 >english fan, nor is english my forst language. > >pity you bigots couldn't see that and have hounded yet another=20 > Hey, take it easy dude, take a chill pill or something. Like these guys = said they=20 do it as a volunteer effort and share with us for free. If you insulted = their country or their mother they would probably just yawn and say so what? But insult = their=20 work and it's fighten time. If Sergey wanted to contribute something he = went about it the wrong way. Now your trying to get a point across in = absolutely the wrong way too. Maybe your remark will be construed as not insulting their work and you = will=20 more or less be ignored, but then again maybe not. If you continue with = these type of rants then you better break out the Redhat disks maybe you'll = be=20 happier there. These people have long memories and when or if you really need help = with=20 something and your job or reputation is on the line, well then you kinda = burned that bridge didn't you. So please remember, even though at times these = guys sound kinda snippy, you have to remember what they are trying to deal with = is enormous. Now top that off with someone who is being obnoxious and you = get instant flame. Sergey was being obnoxious and he understands and communicates very well in english, the thread was not about language, but = about being polite and providing info if you want help. Now let's drop it and get back to work, please. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 0:58:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.tomail.com.tw (dns.tomail.com.tw [203.70.70.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9EE615844 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:58:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from silver@tomail.com.tw) Received: (qmail 74126 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 07:58:58 -0000 Received: from eva.pchome.com.tw (HELO tomail.com.tw) (203.70.70.2) by dns.tomail.com.tw with SMTP; 27 May 1999 07:58:58 -0000 Message-ID: <374CFB56.8F0B7949@tomail.com.tw> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:59:18 +0800 From: Silver CHEN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: [help] 3.2-STABLE #1 TAGGED QUEUE is still 'disabled' by default on 2940U2W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sir: I've upgraded my box to 3.2-STABLE #1, now it sets the sync. rate of my LVD box correctly, but the TAGGED QUEUE is still disabled by default. my SCSI controller is 2940U2W. I don't konw if this should be enabled by default or not, but in 3.1R, it is enabled when boot. I can use 'camcontrol' to enable it by hand, this posting here is just some description about my problem. Regards. -- +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ | Shan-Ta CHEN E-Mail : sansil@pchome.com.tw | | Silver CHEN Tel(O) : +886-2-2773-9858-288 | | ģŊĩ―đF Tel(H) : +886-2-2914-1402 | +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 3:11: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B4315152 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 03:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id MAA11915 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id MAA14615 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id MAA00428 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199905271010.MAA00428@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Stability In-Reply-To: <199905262148.XAA00507@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "May 26, 1999 11:48:24 pm" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Lab: L.P.T.H.E. Universite Paris VI, Tour 16, 1 etage PARIS 75005 Tel: (33) 1 44 27 73 98 Fax: (33) 1 44 27 70 88 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reply to the message from Wilko Bulte > As Michel TALON wrote ... > > In reply to the message from Wilko Bulte > > > As Michel TALON wrote ... > > > > May i add my own story to the instability question? > > > > > > > Second i made a small experiment trying to see wether the floppy > > > > problem is still there. Namelly dd something to a write-protected > > > > floppy. The answer is still the same, namely instant panic. > > > > Of course it is too easy to try to mount a protected floppy and > > > > try to write on it. This should never produce a panic. The problem > > > > was a bug report but has not been adressed. > I can make it panic by doing: "dd if=/kernel of=/dev/fd0". It will not panic > when you do "dd if=/kernel of=/dev/rfd0" (note the rfd0 instead of fd0). > > Using "dd if=/kernel of=/dev/fd0" you get heaps of console error messages > like: > > May 26 23:20:38 yedi /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 296 of 296-299 > (ST0 > 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 8 hd 0 sec 9) > May 26 23:20:38 yedi /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 300 of 300-303 > (ST0 > 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 8 hd 0 sec 13) > May 26 23:20:38 yedi /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 304 of 304-307 > (ST0 > 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 8 hd 0 sec 17) > May 26 23:20:38 yedi /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 308 of 308-311 > (ST0 > 40 ST1 2 ST2 0 cyl 8 hd 1 sec 3) > > etc. etc. > > And then a panic: > > What I think is happening is that the buffering of the block device keeps > 'dd' going for a while until after some point the flush fails (remember, the > disk is hardware write protected) and the kernel gives up with a panic. > > Looks to me like what happened in the old days when you pressed the > 'write protect' button on your root disk drive. > > Use rfd0 and you are fine. The I/O immediately fails with an error and 'dd' > notices this and also gives up. > > Comments? Indeed i agree completely. When writing to /dev/rfd0 an error is properly reported, but writing to /dev/fd0 panics the system. Hence there is a bug in the buffering code. To help understand it here is the gdb report using a kernel with debugging symbols: Script started on Thu May 27 11:36:53 1999 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 2969600 initial pcb at 258aac panicstr: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs panic messages: --- panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs syncing disks... 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 42 giving up dumping to dev 20401, offset 90112 dump 256 255 ....... --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc0141ac0 in at_shutdown ( function=0xc022a8d8 <__set_sysctl__kern_sym_sysctl___kern_maxvnodes+176>, arg=0xc90889c0, queue=-922187328) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc0165cdc in vinvalbuf (vp=0xc90889c0, flags=1, cred=0xc0f14a00, p=0xc8fe6a20, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:599 #3 0xc01726cc in spec_close (ap=0xc9097e84) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:648 #4 0xc01d97ba in ufsspec_close (ap=0xc9097e84) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1872 #5 0xc01d9c8d in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xc9097e84) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2317 #6 0xc016c528 in vn_close (vp=0xc90889c0, flags=3, cred=0xc0f14a00, p=0xc8fe6a20) at vnode_if.h:191 #7 0xc016cce1 in vn_closefile (fp=0xc0f5ae80, p=0xc8fe6a20) at ../../kern/vfs_vnops.c:559 #8 0xc013a92c in closef (fp=0xc0f5ae80, p=0xc8fe6a20) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1065 #9 0xc013a723 in fdfree (p=0xc8fe6a20) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:977 #10 0xc013bbbb in exit1 (p=0xc8fe6a20, rv=256) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:199 #11 0xc013ba24 in exit1 (p=0xc8fe6a20, rv=-922124396) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:104 #12 0xc01ff40f in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 134598656, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1077945416, tf_isp = -922124316, tf_ebx = -1, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- tf_edx = 58, tf_ecx = -60, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 22, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134561160, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077945432, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #13 0xc01f59cc in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x8049835 in ?? () #15 0xbfbfdfdc in ?? () #16 0x80486c2 in ?? () #17 0x804931a in ?? () #18 0x8048b65 in ?? () #19 0x80480e9 in ?? () (kgdb) quit sh-2.02# exit Script done on Thu May 27 11:37:53 1999 -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 4:33:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8EE15532 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 04:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp ([12.77.131.147]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with ESMTP id <19990527113318.FOUO7248@earth.fxp>; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:33:18 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:33:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Julian Elischer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads up! In-Reply-To: <374CC56F.237C228A@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 May 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > '/usr/sbin/arp' will need to be recompiled to work properly > after the addition of Token ring support to 3.2++ today. > > *snip* > how about /usr/sbin/tcpdump? output from 'make buildworld' with sources cvsupped 0700 EDT... ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump rm -f version.c ; sed 's/.*/char version[] = "&";/' /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/t cpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/VERSION > version.c rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME =1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_ALIGN=1 -DPPP -D HAVE_FDDI -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/lbl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include version.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../.. *snip a lot of .c files* .sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-ppp.c:54: /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:18: warning: `PPP_ADDRESS' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:40: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:19: warning: `PPP_CONTROL' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:41: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:22: warning: `PPP_IP' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:56: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:27: warning: `PPP_IPX' redefined /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:59: warning: this is the location of the previous definition /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: token.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 token.h is not present (at least for networking) in the source tree... ...am I missing something? ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Engineer, | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 6: 8:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from darau.kada.lan (ns1.kada.lt [195.22.170.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7598C158DE for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Received: from kada.lt (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darau.kada.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18632 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:13:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dara@kada.lt) Message-ID: <374D44E2.3ECD7EEE@kada.lt> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:13:06 +0200 From: Darius Ramanauskas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: lt, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: "make buildworld" failes on 3.1-STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All, I have just cvsuped new sources and trying to make world, that is what I have: ---------------- /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: token.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: In function `token_print': /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:70: `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:71: `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:83: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:84: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:88: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:89: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: In function `token_if_print': /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:115: `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:131: `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:132: `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ------------- darau# find . -name token.h -print ./contrib/global/lib/token.h ./contrib/groff/refer/token.h ./contrib/groff/troff/token.h ./usr.bin/window/token.h ------------ So, any comments or what I should do.... My system is FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE. If more information is needed I will send. Thank You. Darius Sys/Net Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 6:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 829E41582D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 20481 invoked by uid 1003); 27 May 1999 13:10:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 1999 13:10:48 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: Julian Elischer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads up! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define On Thu, 27 May 1999, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > how about /usr/sbin/tcpdump? > > output from 'make buildworld' with sources cvsupped 0700 EDT... > > ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump > ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump > > *snip failing during dependency stuff* > > token.h is not present (at least for networking) in the source tree... > ...am I missing something? > > I rm'd /usr/obj/usr and tried 'make buildworld' again...this time, it got past the dependency stuff but failed while building: cc -O2 -pipe -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_ALIGN=1 -DPPP -DHAVE_FDDI -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/lbl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: token.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: In function `token_print': /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) *snip more broken functions/DEFINES* ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Engineer | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 6:44:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E469C15066; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id QAA02231; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:41:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:41:37 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Darius Ramanauskas , julian@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "make buildworld" failes on 3.1-STABLE Message-ID: <19990527164137.B729@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Darius Ramanauskas , julian@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <374D44E2.3ECD7EEE@kada.lt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <374D44E2.3ECD7EEE@kada.lt>; from Darius Ramanauskas on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 03:13:06PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem is under investigation. Try to re-cvsup tomorrow... On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 03:13:06PM +0200, Darius Ramanauskas wrote: > Hello All, > > I have just cvsuped new sources and trying to make world, > that is what I have: > > ---------------- > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: > token.h: No such file or directory > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: > In function `token_print': > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: > `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: > (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: > for each function it appears in.) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:70: > `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:71: > `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:83: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:84: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:88: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:89: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: > In function `token_if_print': > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:115: > `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:131: > `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:132: > `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: > dereferencing pointer to incomplete type > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > ------------- > darau# find . -name token.h -print > ./contrib/global/lib/token.h > ./contrib/groff/refer/token.h > ./contrib/groff/troff/token.h > ./usr.bin/window/token.h > ------------ > So, any comments or what I should do.... > > My system is FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE. > If more information is needed I will send. > > Thank You. > > Darius > Sys/Net Admin -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 6:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E7214EB8 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:BTCaDbWsr15pNxxAC+Nr+52IoSdBZJGu@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id WAA14080; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:52:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id WAA26219; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:56:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905271356.WAA26219@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: andyo@prime.net.ua Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Oddness while switching between console & X In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 21:47:01 +0300." <373C6FA4.4EAAE0C4@prime.net.ua> References: <373C6FA4.4EAAE0C4@prime.net.ua> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:56:29 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Ok, this morning I've began >to rebuid XFree86 sources to elf format. Which version of XFree86 are you talking about? Kazu >After rebuld & restart X (I run xdm), >Just after switchig in X, it's fozen >untill I rebooted by reset (I should not >do that 'cos it was alive). Next >start of X just did the same. >But as I said earlier it was alive. >It was pinged, ftp'd, smtp'd but >its console & kbd was frozen anyway. >Only after being ssh'd it became melted >and did worked properly. Ok. Look. >I switch from console to X with ALT-*. >Turning into X kbd, mouse, screen becomes >frozen until I remotly ssh this host >(just after "ssh xhost" - no more). >well, I turn into console. result is >console, kbd become frozen again untill >I remotly "ssh xhost". Etc. >Being not switched between modes system works just >fine. I'll resolve this prob anyway. >But U, guys, what do U think about it? >Seems like ssh protocol do some strobe >making kbd, screen & mouse to become >alive after switching from mode to mode. >And only when ssh *starts* from remote. >No errors in any logs, no traffic on lo0, >just normal traffic on ed0 ssh/tcp. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 7:28:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sundance.KKS.net (sundance.KKS.net [212.62.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F2E14D04 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@kksonline.com) Received: from notebook (mb3-40.dialup.amis.net [212.18.32.167]) by sundance.KKS.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/HPatch) with SMTP id QAA11475 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:28:09 +0200 Message-Id: <199905271428.QAA11475@sundance.KKS.net> X-Sender: rozmanal@164.8.8.5 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:23:06 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Aleksander Rozman - Andy Subject: databases on freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I am having problem with databases on my system. I reinstalled whole system few (cvsuped to 3.2-stable) days ago, because I thought that problem will be solved. But when I try to install some program (its still in testing) I get error as if I can't access database with gdbm. I reinstalled gdbm and problem is still there. I also installed BerkeleyDB, when I compile with it it compiles ok, problem is that author of program told me that it may compile ok, but program is not adjusted to work with berkeley. So then I tried to installed gdb package, but I am always thrown out of setup, because file solib (or something similar) can't compile. Do I have to install anything other prior to gdb, and will this solve gdbm problems too? Andy ************************************************************************** * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Member of: E2:EA, E2F, SAABer, Trekkie, * * andy@mail.kks.net * X-Phile, Heller's angel, True's screamer, * * andy@atechnet.ml.org * True's Trooper, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender * * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 ********************************************* * PGP key available * http://www.atechnet.ml.org/~andy/ * ************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 8:26:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6E51549D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00336; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:25:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <374D63FD.4FB4E9FD@prime.net.ua> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:25:49 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Oddness while switching between console & X References: <373C6FA4.4EAAE0C4@prime.net.ua> <199905271356.WAA26219@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: January 4 1999 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA i386 [ELF] Configured drivers: S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 4) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86" (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(ru)" (overrides other XKB settings) (**) XKB: types: "default" (**) XKB: compat: "default" (**) XKB: symbols: "us(pc101)" (**) XKB: geometry: "pc" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) XKB: model: "pc104" (**) XKB: layout: "ru" (**) XKB: options: "ctrl:ctrl_aa,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/cuaa0, baudrate: 1200 (**) Mouse: buttons: 3, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) S3: Graphics device ID: "Trio64V+" (**) S3: Monitor ID: "AMIGA" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ukr/,/usr/X11R6/lib /X11/fonts/cyrillic/WinCronyx/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyril lic/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" (--) S3: PCI: Trio32/64 rev 44, Linear FB @ 0xe0000000 (--) S3: chipset: Trio64V+ rev. 44 (**) S3: chipset driver: s3_generic (**) S3: Option "trio64v+_bug1" (**) S3: Option "trio64v+_bug2" (**) S3: Option "trio64v+_bug3" (--) S3: card type: PCI (**) S3: videoram: 1024k (**) S3: Ramdac type: s3_trio64 (--) S3: Ramdac speed: 135 MHz (**) S3: Using Trio32/64 programmable clock (MCLK 59.957 MHz) (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz (**) S3: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 44.900 (**) S3: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 36.000 (**) S3: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.180 (--) S3: Operating RAMDAC in pixel multiplex mode (--) S3: Using 6 bits per RGB value (**) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 (--) S3: Local bus LAW is 0xE0000000 (--) S3: Using a banksize of 1024k, line width of 1024 (--) S3: Using a single 64x64 area at (960,769) for expanding pixmaps (--) S3: Using 8 planes of 960x255 at (0,769) aligned 8 as font cache Problem persists Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > >Ok, this morning I've began > >to rebuid XFree86 sources to elf format. > > Which version of XFree86 are you talking about? > > Kazu > > >After rebuld & restart X (I run xdm), > >Just after switchig in X, it's fozen > >untill I rebooted by reset (I should not > >do that 'cos it was alive). Next > >start of X just did the same. > >But as I said earlier it was alive. > >It was pinged, ftp'd, smtp'd but > >its console & kbd was frozen anyway. > >Only after being ssh'd it became melted > >and did worked properly. Ok. Look. > >I switch from console to X with ALT-*. > >Turning into X kbd, mouse, screen becomes > >frozen until I remotly ssh this host > >(just after "ssh xhost" - no more). > >well, I turn into console. result is > >console, kbd become frozen again untill > >I remotly "ssh xhost". Etc. > >Being not switched between modes system works just > >fine. I'll resolve this prob anyway. > >But U, guys, what do U think about it? > >Seems like ssh protocol do some strobe > >making kbd, screen & mouse to become > >alive after switching from mode to mode. > >And only when ssh *starts* from remote. > >No errors in any logs, no traffic on lo0, > >just normal traffic on ed0 ssh/tcp. -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 11: 6: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (derby.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F114F8E for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) Received: from localhost (spidey@localhost) by freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01473; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: freed.dyn.ez-ip.net: spidey owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Spidey X-Sender: spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net Reply-To: Spidey To: "I'Khala" Cc: Broderick Wood , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSUP Scripts In-Reply-To: <19990526154059.B42978@phoenix.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If anyone cares.... for the cvsup part, I made an scripts that automates the process of upgrading the sources: It is very stupid and simple, but it saves me some time, and it keeps all the mods made to the source tree logged somewhere with a timestamp in the name. Just do, say, ./update ports to update the tree as per the ports-supfile and log the results in ./logs/ports-`date +%Y%m%d` Gimme your comments please! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh cvsup="/usr/local/bin/cvsup" flags="-P m -L 2 -g -h" host="cvsup.ca.freebsd.org" curDir="." logdir="$curDir/logs" date=`date +%Y%m%d` nolog=0 verbose=1 # A basic usage... usage ( ) { cat <] [ -d ] collection -q: be quiet -n: do not log to a file -l : log into dir -d : change the date format used for logfile name ["$date"] The supfile will be -supfile. EOF exit 1 } if test $# -lt 1 then usage fi # Get the command line right! #set -- `getopt nl:qv $*` #for i #do # case "$i" # in # -q) # verbose=0; shift;; # -v) # verbose=1; shift;; # -n) # nolog=1; shift;; # -l) # logdir=$2; shift; shift;; # -d) # date=$2; shift; shift;; # esac #done dist=$1 supfile="$curDir/$dist-supfile" if [ ! -r $supfile ] then echo "Can't read $supfile, exiting..." exit 1 fi if [ ! -d $logdir ] then echo "Can't find $logdir directory, using current dir for logfiles" logdir="." fi if [ $nolog -eq 1 ] then logfile="/dev/null" else logfile="$logdir/$dist-$date" fi echo "This will be the command issued:" echo "\"$cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 | tee -a $logfile\"" echo -n "Press [enter] to confirm, or ^C to exit: " read void if [ $verbose -eq 1 ] then $cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 | tee -a $logfile else $cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 >> $logfile fi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 26 May 1999, I'Khala wrote: > Quoting Broderick Wood (bwood@KingsU.ab.ca): > > Some of the recent comments have me wondering what people have > > done to automate the process of staying current with -STABLE using > > CVSUP. I am already doing a CVSUP and make buildworld on a > > weekly basis. What else can I get the scripts to do without killing the > > box while I'm away, and what steps are then left? > > > > I would prefer to hear about people who are actually using their > > scripts, not just "This SHOULD Work" scenarios... > What I've done is the following > 1. created a file in /etc/periodic/daily called 800.update-sources > 2. 800.update-sources calls the script /usr/local/etc/sources > 3. /usr/local/etc/sources does a 'cd /usr/src' and performs an 'make update' > 4. in /etc/make.conf I have 'SUPFILE=/usr/local/etc/cvsup/stable-supfile', > 'SUPFILE1=/usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile' > > Pretty simple. Just use any of the scripts in '/etc/periodic/daily' as an example. > I usually do a buildworld & installworld by hand, but I'm going to begin a weekly > automated buildowrld on my -CURRENT boxes, because I'm finding out that this would > be the most prudent thing for me ... #;^) > > HTH > > > --------------------------- > > > > -BMW- > > > > Don't just stand there! Pray something! > > > > (bwood@kingsu.ab.ca) > > Broderick Wood, > > Director of Information Technology Services > > The King's University College > > 9125 - 50 Street > > Edmonton, Alberta > > T6B 2H3 > > (780) 465-8315 > > (780) 465-3534 (FAX) > > > > i'khala > (Still thinking of a witty .signature file ... #;^) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Un éducateur dans l'âme ne prend rien au sérieux que par rapport ā ses disciples -- soi-męme non excepté. -Nietzsche, "Par delā le bien et le mal" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 11:10:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (derby.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B052A15906 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) Received: from localhost (spidey@localhost) by freed.dyn.ez-ip.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01480 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:10:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: freed.dyn.ez-ip.net: spidey owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Spidey X-Sender: spidey@freed.dyn.ez-ip.net Reply-To: Spidey To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105908@site2s1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [useless comment] I don't understand why there's always someone coming up and saying something like "FreeBSD broke my fan" or "FBSD is unstable". This is the best OS I've ever seen. Damn, it even runs Linux binaries! I almost never had any problems with my FBSD box, and even if I run it overclocked! I'd like here to send my good wishes to the people who work in developping and 'debugging' FBSD instead of complaining about the slightest problems that occur. This is a GREAT os, keep on the good work everybody! Just my 2 cents... (does it matter anyways?) ants. -- Un éducateur dans l'âme ne prend rien au sérieux que par rapport ā ses disciples -- soi-męme non excepté. -Nietzsche, "Par delā le bien et le mal" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 11:48:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B9D15992 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15708; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:47:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA08042; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:47:28 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:47:28 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Spidey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 May 1999, Spidey wrote: > [useless comment] > > I don't understand why there's always someone coming up and saying > something like "FreeBSD broke my fan" or "FBSD is unstable". Exactly... The systems I have here do their jobs very well.. one quam I do have is that the SMP (stable as a rock) is a bit slugish do..this is because most apps do not yet take advantage of the threading of processes for the rest it has a uptime of about 90 days... Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 12: 0:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ADD1595B for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Received: from vpop.net (bilbo.vpop.net [216.160.82.65]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03254 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374D9641.30F0CB6C@vpop.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:00:17 -0700 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_cond.cuthread_mutex.c References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG MFC candidate (along with pthread_private.h rev. 1.19)? Matt John Birrell wrote: > > jb 1999/05/23 03:55:35 PDT > > Modified files: > lib/libc_r/uthread pthread_private.h uthread_cond.c > uthread_mutex.c > Log: > Fix a problem with static initialisation of mutexes and condition > variables. > > Submitted by: Dan Eischen > > Revision Changes Path > 1.18 +3 -2 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/pthread_private.h > 1.14 +19 -0 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_cond.c > 1.14 +18 -0 src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_mutex.c > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 12: 9:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE165150C2 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA07575; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: "Chris D. Faulhaber" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads up! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Damn, I'll check this... mean while, what I meant is tht the old tcpdump binaries will work fine.. olf 'arp' binaries won't work right, so you NEED to recompile 'arp' I'll fix the tcpdump asap. On Thu, 27 May 1999, Chris D. Faulhaber wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > '/usr/sbin/arp' will need to be recompiled to work properly > > after the addition of Token ring support to 3.2++ today. > > > > *snip* > > > > how about /usr/sbin/tcpdump? > > output from 'make buildworld' with sources cvsupped 0700 EDT... > > ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump > ===> usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump > rm -f version.c ; sed 's/.*/char version[] = "&";/' > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/t > cpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/VERSION > version.c > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 > -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME =1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 > -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void > -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_ALIGN=1 > -DPPP -D HAVE_FDDI > -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/lbl > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include version.c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../.. > > *snip a lot of .c files* > > .sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c > In file included from > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-ppp.c:54: > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:18: > warning: `PPP_ADDRESS' redefined > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:40: warning: this is the > location of the previous definition > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:19: > warning: `PPP_CONTROL' redefined > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:41: warning: this is the > location of the previous definition > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:22: > warning: `PPP_IP' redefined > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:56: warning: this is the > location of the previous definition > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/ppp.h:27: > warning: `PPP_IPX' redefined > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/net/ppp_defs.h:59: warning: this is the > location of the previous definition > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: > token.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > > token.h is not present (at least for networking) in the source tree... > ...am I missing something? > > > ----- > Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never > System/Network Engineer, | claimed they were one, and always > Reality Check Information, Inc | pointed to someone better. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 12:34: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26AC14E60 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA28768 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:33:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199905271933.PAA28768@misha.cisco.com> Subject: stable world does not build To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cvsuped this morning, around 11am EST. It dies building tcpdump... -mi cc -O -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -pipe -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_ALIGN=1 -DPPP -DHAVE_FDDI -g -I/home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/lbl -I/usr/obj/home/mi/src/tmp/usr/include -c /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:38: token.h: No such file or directory /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: In function `token_print': /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:69: for each function it appears in.) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:70: `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:71: `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:83: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:84: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:88: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:89: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c: In function `token_if_print': /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:115: `TOKEN_HDR_LEN' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:131: `IS_SOURCE_ROUTED' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:132: `RIF_LENGTH' undeclared (first use this function) /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /home/mi/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c:150: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 12:37:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abe.hymarc.com (homer.hymarc.com [206.191.28.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7816414BEE for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rleir@hymarc.com) Received: from moe.hymarc.com (moe.hymarc.com [89.0.0.5]) by abe.hymarc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06475; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:30 -0400 Received: from lisa.hymarc.com (lisa.hymarc.com [89.0.0.35]) by moe.hymarc.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA28773; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:20 -0400 Received: from hymarc.com (localhost.hymarc.com [127.0.0.1]) by lisa.hymarc.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id PAA69715; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374D9EEA.B821481A@hymarc.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:37:14 -0400 From: Rick Leir Organization: Hymarc 3D Vision Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Nelson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (off-topic) thanks! References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E2939AA6AD2355892B2BFFF6" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E2939AA6AD2355892B2BFFF6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have FreeBSD, Solaris and Linux installed on a P200 with a 6gig disk (note: this is not an expensive configuration!). I like all these and booting is a dilemma. One minor annoyance with Solaris: its partition has the same type as Linux swap (from memory, I forget what it is). And I wish people could agree on the terminology for partitions and slices. Jay Nelson wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Dustin Lang wrote: > >to make Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris co-exist. Hey, it could work... > The answer to your question about Solaris coexisting is -- no. the way > x86 Solaris installs will generally take an entire disk. _If_ lilo or > Further, after using FreeBSD, Solaris is _extremely_ frustrating. I wish that all *nix's were more alike. We are giving help to Mr Gates by shooting our feet. > Now -- this is thanks to all those who have contributed to the > development of FreeBSD: I agree. Cheers! > FreeBSD is the easiest OS to install and configure that I've ever > used. I agree. Cheers! -- Rick Leir, Hymarc 3D Vision Systems (613) 727 1584 x214 Fast, precise laser scanners. http://www.hymarc.com/ --------------E2939AA6AD2355892B2BFFF6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rleir.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Rick Leir Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rleir.vcf" begin:vcard n:Leir;Rick x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Hymarc 3D Vision Systems adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rleir@hymarc.com title:Software Designer x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Rick Leir end:vcard --------------E2939AA6AD2355892B2BFFF6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 13:53:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel1.hp.com (atlrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4A915605 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by atlrel1.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id QAA14638 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id NAA07270; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199905272049.NAA07270@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a problem with FreeBSD 3.2 and my AMD K6-2 at 333MHz. It randomly reboots while the CPU usage is high. Sometimes, it does so during a compilation (but never done it when I recompiled the kernel) or when Communicator is requested to open a link within a new window. There is no entry in /var/log/messages. The symptom shows up as the whole machine is wedged for 5-10 seconds then my machine reboots. Going through the GNATS database and dejanews, I have come to the conclusion that it could be my K6-2 or some kernel parameter needs to be tweaked. Unfortunately I don't know how to check if my K6-2 has the bug or not. I read about a referece to sandpile.org but am unable to search for how to identify if my K6-2 has the bug. Any help with this problem is greatly appreciated. Attached are my dmesg and kernel configuration. Regards Ken ---dmesg--- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #4: Wed May 26 12:55:59 PDT 1999 root@black.tmpest1.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLACK Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (333.37-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) avail memory = 95182848 (92952K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x04 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0xb4 on pci0.7.0 ed1: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.8.0 ed1: address 00:80:c8:fd:90:ae, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed2: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 ed2: address 00:80:c8:fd:88:0d, type NE2000 (16 bit) adv0: rev 0x02 int a irq 9 on pci0.11.0 adv0: AdvanSys Ultra SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, queue depth 240 ide_pci0: rev 0x20 int a irq 0 on pci0.15.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0xf3 int a irq 10 on pci1.6.0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00f0 [0xf0008c0e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0xffffffff) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1625MB (3329424 sectors), 3303 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 3079MB (6306048 sectors), 6256 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 1 (wd3): wd3: 4121MB (8440992 sectors), 8374 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 1031KB/sec, 120KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/1 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port adv0 not found at 0x330 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at adv0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) changing root device to wd3s1a da0 at adv0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) ---kernelconfiguration--- # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.12 1999/05/14 15:12:26 jkh Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident BLACK maxusers 32 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "EXT2FS" options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_LINUX options SCSI_DELAY=5000 options IDE_DELAY=2000 options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd3 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 #controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. #controller dpt0 controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty #options PCVT_FREEBSD=211 #options PCVT_EMU_MOUSE #options PCVT_PRETTYSCRNS #options PCVT_SCREENSAVER options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # #device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management device apm0 at isa? # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? #device plip0 at ppbus? #device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 #device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 #pseudo-device ppp 1 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. #options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. #pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 14:40:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel1.hp.com (atlrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FC614DAD for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by atlrel1.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id RAA02390; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id OAA09462; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199905272136.OAA09462@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) In-Reply-To: <199905272103.OAA21742@whistle.com> from "Doug Ambrisko" at May 27, 99 02:03:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ken Lui writes: > | I have FreeBSD3.2 from ftp7.de.freebsd.org dated May 1999 installed > | on an AMD K6-2 333MHz with Aladdin V chipset and have experienced > | spontaneous reboots while CPU usage is very high--compiling or > | bringing a new web link in another window within Netscape > > For kicks try to verify/change your BIOS memory timing to 10ns. I've seen > machines die with PC100 memory that couldn't run at 8ns timing. Under > stress they failed. > > Doug A. Doug, Thanks for sending me this suggestion. I went into my Award BIOS and saw what appeared to be memory timing and changed it from Fast to Normal so will see if this cures it. I will attempt to set it to Slow if I get more problems. One stick of SDRAM is PC-100-compliant (which I personally purchased) at 10ns, but I am not sure of the other stick. For reference, here is that page of the BIOS. Chipset Features Setup Auto Configuration Enabled AT Bus Clock CLK2/4 * cannot change * DRAM Timing Fast * changed to Normal * SDRAM CAS Latency Auto * 3 and 2 are also valid * Pipelined Function Enabled Graphics Aperture Size 64M DRAM Data Integrity Mode Disabled Memory Hole at 15-16M Disabled ISA Line Buffer Enabled Passive Release Enabled Delay Transactions Disabled Primary Frame Buffer 16M VGA Frame Buffer Enabled Data Merge Disabled Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 14:44: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linda.pathlink.com (linda.pathlink.com [165.113.238.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE6C14CE5 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kachun@pathlink.com) Received: from dvl-1 (dvl-1.pathlink.com [207.211.168.211]) by linda.pathlink.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA27546 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905272142.OAA27546@linda.pathlink.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:43:19 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Kachun Lee Subject: Panic with fault on nofault entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG About 4 weeks ago, one of our servers started panic about once a week with the following error: panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: c7807000 syncing disks... 88 72 47 29 19 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 ... giving up Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort No register dump of anything. Everytime it panic, I re-sync it with stable. The latest panic was with 3.2-RELEASE. The server is a PII 450mhz 512M ASUS P2BS + extra Adaptec with 12 18G lvd seagates. Maybe, the server had developed a hardware problem, but the panic's were all the same. Any insight? Any more info I can provide? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 15:13:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.cronosnet.com (server.cronosnet.com [195.103.68.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2A414D65 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vmori@cronosnet.com) Received: from vmori (dialup-04.cronosnet.com [195.103.68.213]) by server.cronosnet.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA26504; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001901bea88c$8c17a440$d54467c3@vmori> From: "Vittorio Mori" To: "Ken Lui" Cc: Subject: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:01:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Ken Lui A: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Ken Lui Data: giovedė 27 maggio 1999 23.02 Oggetto: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high >Hi, > >I have a problem with FreeBSD 3.2 and my AMD K6-2 at 333MHz. It randomly >reboots while the CPU usage is high. Sometimes, it does so during a I work as an OEM in my country. We recently had some _flawed_ batches of K6 II-333. Some would not even boot. They also were generating much more heat than the K6 II series we had before. So you can check the temperature of the CPU (it sounds overworked as an advice, but believe me, those K6 II were really HOT) .... fans & the rest. The problem seemed restricted to the K6 II 333 line, the 400Mhz were fine. The problem we had was similar to yours, the machines rebooted or locked up at about 90% of cpu load, even if the peak was for a short time. Our previus K6-2 batch stayed well under 45-55 Celsius. These bad K6 are running 50-70 Celsius (!). Even my good ol' Cyrix 6x86MX generates less heat :) Try to underclock it (300 Mhz) and check. 80% of these "bad" K6 II were fine at 300 Mhz. P.S. I am NOT trying to bury AMD. I am a BIG fan of AMD, of the now extinct Cyrix, and everything else *not* marked Intel/Micro$oft. Bye, Wyk'99 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 15:31:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4780115517 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id PAA24636; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id PAA12059; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199905272226.PAA12059@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: vmori@cronosnet.com (Vittorio Mori) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <001901bea88c$8c17a440$d54467c3@vmori> from "Vittorio Mori" at May 28, 99 00:01:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We recently had some _flawed_ batches of K6 II-333. Some would not even > boot. They also were generating much more heat than the K6 II series we had > before. So you can check the temperature of the CPU (it sounds overworked as > an advice, but believe me, those K6 II were really HOT) .... fans & the > rest. The problem seemed restricted to the K6 II 333 line, the 400Mhz were > fine. > > The problem we had was similar to yours, the machines rebooted or locked up > at about 90% of cpu load, even if the peak was for a short time. > > Our previus K6-2 batch stayed well under 45-55 Celsius. > > These bad K6 are running 50-70 Celsius (!). Vittorio, Thanks for your input. I believe this K6-2 is already overclocked to 333. :) Probably a 266 or 300. Unfortunately, my motherboard (Biostar M5ALA) has no temperature probe... Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 16:14:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851AD14C3D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA00472; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:14:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd000470; Thu May 27 23:14:31 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19135; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:14:30 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199905272314.JAA19135@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Ken Lui Cc: vmori@cronosnet.com (Vittorio Mori), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 27 May 1999 15:26:49 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:14:30 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Thanks for your input. I believe this K6-2 is already overclocked to > 333. :) Probably a 266 or 300. Try it without overclocking and get back to us if it still reboots. Overclocking is _not supported_ for FreeBSD (for whatever "supported" means in the free software environment!), presumably because it causes odd errors just like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 16:22: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6812B14D20 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from athena ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990527232203.EIZG21001.mail.rdc1.nj.home.com@athena> for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:22:03 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990527192343.00c6ba60@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:23:43 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high In-Reply-To: <199905272314.JAA19135@lightning.itga.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:14 AM 5/28/99 +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: >> Thanks for your input. I believe this K6-2 is already overclocked to >> 333. :) Probably a 266 or 300. > >Try it without overclocking and get back to us if it still reboots. >Overclocking is _not supported_ for FreeBSD (for whatever "supported" means in >the free software environment!), presumably because it causes odd errors just >like this one. I do not think he overclocked it intentionally. We are coming to a conclusion that he got 'ripped' off by an old K6-266 or K6-300 that has been overclocked when he bought it. :( Unfortunate... very unfortunate if this is true. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 17:41:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1017A14CB6 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp ([12.77.176.227]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with ESMTP id <19990528004147.GQLX7866@earth.fxp>; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:41:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:41:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Julian Elischer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads up! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 May 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: > Damn, I'll check this... > *snip* > > I'll fix the tcpdump asap. > Looks like Eivind beat you to the fix :) I just wanted to thank you guys for the response. Although this was not a life-or-death problem, it's nice to know there are real live people out there to take care of things when something goes afoul. Thanks again... ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | You can ISO9001 certify the process of System/Network Engineer, | shooting yourself in the foot, so long Reality Check Information, Inc. | as the process is documented and reliably | produces the proper result. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 18: 2:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cybersites.com (unknown [207.92.123.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B98014E3D for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) Received: from f8m7n1 (dhcp77.cybersites.com [207.92.123.77]) by ns1.cybersites.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA10473; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:53:09 -0400 Message-ID: <007001bea8a4$680ae540$4d7b5ccf@f8m7n1> From: "Chuck Youse" To: "Ken Lui" , "Vittorio Mori" Cc: Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:52:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I hate to point out the obvious, but generally, folks, CPUs are rated for given clock speeds for a reason. If you're having strange software problems, the first thing to do is stop overclocking. If you can't reproduce the problem when running at the appropriate, rated clockspeed, then you know what your problem most likely is. Chuck Youse Director of Systems cyouse@cybersites.com -----Original Message----- From: Ken Lui To: Vittorio Mori Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high >Thanks for your input. I believe this K6-2 is already overclocked to >333. :) Probably a 266 or 300. > > >Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 18:24:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547CF151A9 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA74519 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic: vm_object_reference: attempting to reference dead obj Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG While attempting to gather information regarding the last crash I encoutered, I had done a 'make -j 8 world' on this box previously, though I forgot it only had 16MB RAM enumerated. Swap city. :-) This cropped up as a result: Script started on Thu May 27 20:10:39 1999 root@cheetah [/var/crash]# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) symbol-file /kernel.debug Reading symbols from /kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file kernel.1 (kgdb) core-file vmcore.1 IdlePTD 2613248 initial pcb at 21ee14 panicstr: vm_object_reference: attempting to reference dead obj panic messages: --- panic: vm_object_reference: attempting to reference dead obj syncing disks... 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 38 giving up dumping to dev 20401, offset 581632 dump 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc0140aec in at_shutdown (function=0xc01fb42a , arg=0xc04270f8, queue=-1017422012) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc01b340b in vm_object_reference (object=0xc36547f8) at ../../vm/vm_object.c:245 #3 0xc01b6baa in vm_pageout_page_free (m=0xc04270f8) at ../../vm/vm_pageout.c:635 #4 0xc01b72d2 in vm_pageout_scan () at ../../vm/vm_pageout.c:1093 #5 0xc01b78d6 in vm_pageout () at ../../vm/vm_pageout.c:1382 #6 0xc0133492 in kproc_start (udata=0xc0216110) at ../../kern/init_main.c:303 #7 0xc01c701a in fork_trampoline () (kgdb) quit The dmesg is in the last message from me about "panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs", though I did forget to include 'uname -a' output and mention that it was done under a very recent (as in not over an hour old) 3.2-STABLE world. FreeBSD cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 19:32:28 CDT 1999 root@cheetah.wolves.k12mo.us:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHEETAH i386 Again, tell me about anything you might want me to do with this system as far as testing goes (beat it to death, whatever), before I put it into production (luckily these panics would seem to be unlikely in its normal working conditions). -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 18:36: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B45151A9 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA74626 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:35:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:35:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Heh... so this turns out to be the second message I send, rather than the first. Thats what I get for sending it to myself instead of to the list. Ok, I was able this time to get a useful backtrace on the dump (I couldn't last time due to my own stupidity, forgetting to specify symbol-file). Anyway, this very reproducible panic occurs any time I: dd if=/dev/rda0s1a of=/dev/da1s1a and then either hit ctrl-C at any time, or just let it finish. Anytime, anyplace, anywhere. With or without softupdates. In single-user mode or not. With or without all 256MB of RAM enumerated. With or without anything but the root partition mounted. Wether its read-only or not. Etc. Etc. Yes, I know that's the wrong way to copy a filesystem, but that isn't the point here. :-) Interestingly enough, doing it the right way, i.e.: dd if=/dev/rda0s1a of=/dev/rda1s1a tells me "/dev/rda1s1a: read-only filesystem", which is pure bollocks. Yes, /dev/rda1s1a does exist and its not trying to write a file into /dev on a read-only /. :-) Anyway, here's the output from GDB: root@cheetah [/var/crash]# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) symbol-file /kernel.debug Reading symbols from /kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file vmcore.0 IdlePTD 2613248 initial pcb at 21ee14 panicstr: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs panic messages: --- panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs syncing disks... 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up dumping to dev 20401, offset 581632 dump 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc0140aec in at_shutdown ( function=0xc01f2da2 <__set_sysctl__kern_sym_sysctl___kern_maxvnodes+226>, arg=0xc35a64c0, queue=-1017486144) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc01649d8 in vinvalbuf (vp=0xc35a64c0, flags=1, cred=0xc0864a80, p=0xc35ac700, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:599 #3 0xc0171730 in spec_close (ap=0xc3603e84) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:648 #4 0xc01aa90e in ufsspec_close (ap=0xc3603e84) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1872 #5 0xc01aae2d in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xc3603e84) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2317 #6 0xc016b320 in vn_close (vp=0xc35a64c0, flags=3, cred=0xc0864a80, p=0xc35ac700) at vnode_if.h:191 #7 0xc016bad9 in vn_closefile (fp=0xc08ccd40, p=0xc35ac700) at ../../kern/vfs_vnops.c:559 #8 0xc0139680 in closef (fp=0xc08ccd40, p=0xc35ac700) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1065 #9 0xc0139477 in fdfree (p=0xc35ac700) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:977 #10 0xc013a963 in exit1 (p=0xc35ac700, rv=256) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:199 #11 0xc013a7cc in exit1 (p=0xc35ac700, rv=-1017102444) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:104 #12 0xc01cfad3 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = -1077944924, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1077945124, ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- tf_isp = -1017102364, tf_ebx = -1, tf_edx = 64, tf_ecx = -66, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134561160, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077945140, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #13 0xc01c6fcc in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x8049835 in ?? () #15 0xbfbfdfdc in ?? () #16 0x8048b65 in ?? () #17 0x80480e9 in ?? () (kgdb) quit And the dmesg output (boot -v ends up causing much of the first part of dmesg to be severely truncated, even in /var/run/dmesg.boot, so here's the non--v version): Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 19:32:28 CDT 1999 root@cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHEETAH Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 498830848 Hz CPU: Pentium III (498.83-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x672 Stepping=2 Features=0x383f9ff,> real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14082048 (13752K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0274000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.1 vga0: rev 0x7a on pci0.5.0 fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 12 on pci0.7.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:de:9e:be fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 5 on pci0.8.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:fb:03:1d fxp2: rev 0x05 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 fxp2: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:f3:ee:b8 chip2: rev 0x4d on pci0.15.0 chip3: rev 0x04 on pci0.17.0 chip4: rev 0x02 on pci0.17.1 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: ncr0: rev 0x14 int a irq 15 on pci1.4.0 ncr1: rev 0x14 int b irq 7 on pci1.4.1 fxp3: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci1.6.0 fxp3: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:f3:d4:39 fxp4: rev 0x05 int a irq 11 on pci1.7.0 fxp4: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:f3:cf:2c fxp5: rev 0x05 int a irq 3 on pci1.8.0 fxp5: Ethernet address 00:50:8b:08:f2:be chip5: rev 0x03 on pci1.9.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: fxp6: rev 0x05 int a irq 12 on pci2.4.0 fxp6: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:07:b2:95 fxp7: rev 0x05 int a irq 12 on pci2.5.0 fxp7: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:07:b2:96 Probing for devices on PCI bus 3: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 not found at 0x170 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry DUMMYNET initialized (990504) Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8678MB (17773500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8678MB (17773500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8678MB (17773500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates uname -a output: FreeBSD cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 19:32:28 root@cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHEETAH i386 Very recent 3.2-STABLE world and kernel (as of a few hours ago). If anyone needs me to test any fixes they might have, please tell me NOW before I put the box into production, and it therefore becomes unavailable for testing. The debugging kernel image and appropriate core files are available upon request (for both this and the other crash I just sent a message about). -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 19:55:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alexander.pentalpha.com.hk (pop3.pentalpha.com.hk [210.176.109.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276CE151B4 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@pentalpha.com.hk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by alexander.pentalpha.com.hk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31281 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:55:28 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from danny@pentalpha.com.hk) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.0.0.111), claiming to be "domain" via SMTP by alexander.0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA, id smtpdB31279; Fri May 28 10:55:21 1999 Message-ID: <023a01bea8b5$8396d600$6f00000a@domain.pentalpha.com.hk> From: "danny" To: Subject: make world Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:55:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I try to make world with source 3.2 stable at 27/05/99 (from cvsup), and get the following error. cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_T IME=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIG TYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_AL IGN=1 -DPPP -DHAVE_FDDI -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../cont rib/tcpdump/lbl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 19:59:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (unknown [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1556B151B4 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: (qmail 22018 invoked by uid 1003); 28 May 1999 02:59:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 1999 02:59:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:59:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@pawn.primelocation.net To: danny Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world In-Reply-To: <023a01bea8b5$8396d600$6f00000a@domain.pentalpha.com.hk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 May 1999, danny wrote: > I try to make world with source 3.2 stable at 27/05/99 (from cvsup), and get > the following error. > > cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_NET_SLIP_H=1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_T > IME=1 -DHAVE_ETHER_NTOHOST=1 -DHAVE_SETLINEBUF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DRETSIG > TYPE=void -DRETSIGVAL= -DHAVE_SOCKADDR_SA_LEN=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DLBL_AL > IGN=1 -DPPP -DHAVE_FDDI -g -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../cont > rib/tcpdump/lbl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/tcpdump/tcpdump/../../../contrib/tcpdump/print-token.c > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > Fix was committed this morning; try re-cvsup'ing. ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never Senior System/Network Engineer | claimed they were one, and always Reality Check Information, Inc | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 20: 3:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AE3151B4 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA24390 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:03:11 +1000 (EST) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma024348; Fri, 28 May 99 13:03:02 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA89506 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.aipo.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:50 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-Sender: carl@newton.aipo.gov.au To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: not really related to but triggered from Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 May 1999, Chris Dillon wrote: > ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates Is it possible for this message to include *what* filesystem was update for soft updates? Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 20:57:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2978715094 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@cpl.net) Received: from SHAWN (shawn.megadeth.org [209.203.102.43]) by luke.cpl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA27680; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990527204731.00e60d80@cpl.net> X-Sender: shawn@cpl.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:47:31 -0700 To: "Chuck Youse" , "Ken Lui" , "Vittorio Mori" From: Shawn Ramsey Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Cc: In-Reply-To: <007001bea8a4$680ae540$4d7b5ccf@f8m7n1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:52 PM 5/27/99 -0400, Chuck Youse wrote: >I hate to point out the obvious, but generally, folks, CPUs are rated for >given clock speeds for a reason. If you're having strange software >problems, the first thing to do is stop overclocking. If you can't >reproduce the problem when running at the appropriate, rated clockspeed, >then you know what your problem most likely is. The problem with then most likely be not enough cooling. :) I wouldn't overclock a system that your livelyhood depended on, but less important systems that could use the speed, why not? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 21:19:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.stsi.net (atlas.stsi.net [208.236.212.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC77514DA6 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rws@stsi.net) Received: from localhost (rws@localhost) by atlas.stsi.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id AAA00160 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:19:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: atlas.stsi.net: rws owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: rws@atlas To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: R: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990527204731.00e60d80@cpl.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that if the machine crashing is bothersome enough to ask on the mailing lists, that is enough to make it important. I can only think of a few tasks that require that extra tiny bit of speed to make the machine undependable. And those few tasks arent even worth it. . . Personally, I think if you can afford to put hardware's life spans on the line, you can afford to buy a slightly faster machine. ;) On Thu, 27 May 1999, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > At 08:52 PM 5/27/99 -0400, Chuck Youse wrote: > >I hate to point out the obvious, but generally, folks, CPUs are rated for > >given clock speeds for a reason. If you're having strange software > >problems, the first thing to do is stop overclocking. If you can't > >reproduce the problem when running at the appropriate, rated clockspeed, > >then you know what your problem most likely is. > > The problem with then most likely be not enough cooling. :) I wouldn't > overclock a system that your livelyhood depended on, but less important > systems that could use the speed, why not? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 21:45:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A860614C80 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 28 May 1999 04:45:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528044515.12319.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've checked this out on good hardware. And now can CLAIM that > 3.1-R *really* have kernel problems on FreeBSD's "classic" configuration. > This bug causes TERRIBLE instability - panic in 24 hours. Even Microsoft's > OSes gives significantly better results > *** MY PUBLIC APOLOGIZES FOR THIS MESSAGE. *** Someone just points me out that my message was INSULTING to FreeBSD's developers. !!! I DO NOT INTEND TO INSULT ANYONE !!! I've just wanted ironically point out fact that developrs ignore malformed user reports, but they have true basis. The irony of fate I missed ';)' sign after words 'better results'. And in such form my message DID become insulting. My answers was also too rude, if treat it in such way. I think till this moment it was ironycal not insulting, but sent version was not. AGAIN AND AGAIN. I'M VERY SORRY... P.S.: Will never try write "ironical" messages again. This lesson was enough good for me ;) SORRY, SERGEY. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 27 21:55:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4953014C80 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:55:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.29.164] (helo=stade.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10nEg8-0005QK-0B for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 04:55:32 +0000 Received: from titus.stade.co.uk (titus.stade.co.uk [192.168.1.5]) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18987 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:11:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1@titus.stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by titus.stade.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28156 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:11:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aw1) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 03:11:40 +0100 From: Adrian Wontroba To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? Message-ID: <19990528031140.D24344@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105908@site2s1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Spidey on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 02:10:23PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: Yes, I need some of that. X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 02:10:23PM -0400, Spidey wrote: > I don't understand why there's always someone coming up and saying > something like "FreeBSD broke my fan" or "FBSD is unstable". It can be. I had three boxes running -stable. Two freshly installed, and very stable. Tbe other, with a more chequered history, wasn't. Certain actions would usually panic it. Setting up the kernel configuration from scratch, using GENERIC and LINT as a base, fixed the instability for me. An action I believe Mike has recommended more than once in the last couple of months. So, the user error of misconfiguring your kernel can result in instability. -- Adrian Wontroba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 1:44:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB4414D2F for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA62178; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:43:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Cc: Subject: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:44:36 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now it does not work!! FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) disk1s2a:> boot You have already loaded 'boot' ..... disk1s2a:> boot kernel (same thing!) disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev (same thing!!) Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 2:10:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA6C14D93 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:10:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA62372 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:09:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <03ff01bea8e9$e7134a40$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: NATD does not allow PING. Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:10:16 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought "all" meant tcp, udp, icmp, ..... $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via ^^^ If I ping on nutta (nothing). But I can telnet/ftp.... etc to them. Any clues?? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 2:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2994E14D93 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07150; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:14:26 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07449; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:10:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA20349; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:14:16 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:14:16 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@usa3.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? Message-ID: <19990528121416.A20290@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk>; from Greg Quinlan on Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:44:36AM +0100 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG disk1s2a:> kernel.perv ? On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:44:36AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' > > I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now > it does not work!! > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... > (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) > > disk1s2a:> boot > You have already loaded 'boot' ..... > disk1s2a:> boot kernel > (same thing!) > disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev > (same thing!!) > > Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( > > What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! > > Greg > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 2:17:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E000714E5C for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29145; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:17:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02156; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:17:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199905280917.KAA02156@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@usa3.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 May 1999 09:44:36 BST." <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:17:11 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' > > I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now > it does not work!! > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... > (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) > > disk1s2a:> boot > You have already loaded 'boot' ..... > disk1s2a:> boot kernel > (same thing!) > disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev > (same thing!!) > > Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( > > What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! You're probably now using /boot/defaults/loader.conf. You can override things in /boot/loader.conf, or manually: disk1s2a:> unload disk1s2a:> load kernel.prev disk1s2a:> boot > Greg -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 2:51:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7414159F4 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:51:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id KAA00184; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:48:47 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id LAA23504; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:46:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03578; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:31:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA00559; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:35:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <374E64BB.7761F488@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:41:15 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NATD does allow PING (was Re: NATD does not allow PING.) References: <03ff01bea8e9$e7134a40$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B6C5C32E3CB4E76F3447D252" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B6C5C32E3CB4E76F3447D252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, As in the subject, natd does allow ping : however ipfw may block them (I've gor it running fine on my home box) could you try to ping from your gateway ? what is your ipfw ruleset ? have you tried running natd -v(erbose) ? what is your OS release ? (are you sure you are running FreeBSD ;-)) ?) TfH Greg Quinlan wrote: > > I thought "all" meant tcp, udp, icmp, ..... > > $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via > ^^^ > > If I ping on nutta (nothing). > But I can telnet/ftp.... etc to them. > > Any clues?? > > Greg > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------B6C5C32E3CB4E76F3447D252 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------B6C5C32E3CB4E76F3447D252-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 3:56:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65F015AA4 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id MAA10591; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:02:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10011; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:13:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199905280713.JAA10011@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs In-Reply-To: from Chris Dillon at "May 27, 1999 8:35:58 pm" To: cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us (Chris Dillon) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:13:07 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Chris Dillon wrote ... > > Heh... so this turns out to be the second message I send, rather > than the first. Thats what I get for sending it to myself instead > of to the list. > > Ok, I was able this time to get a useful backtrace on the dump (I > couldn't last time due to my own stupidity, forgetting to specify > symbol-file). > > Anyway, this very reproducible panic occurs any time I: > dd if=/dev/rda0s1a of=/dev/da1s1a > and then either hit ctrl-C at any time, or just let it finish. > > Anytime, anyplace, anywhere. With or without softupdates. In > single-user mode or not. With or without all 256MB of RAM enumerated. > With or without anything but the root partition mounted. Wether its > read-only or not. Etc. Etc. > > Yes, I know that's the wrong way to copy a filesystem, but that isn't > the point here. :-) > > Interestingly enough, doing it the right way, i.e.: > dd if=/dev/rda0s1a of=/dev/rda1s1a > tells me "/dev/rda1s1a: read-only filesystem", which is pure bollocks. > Yes, /dev/rda1s1a does exist and its not trying to write a file into > /dev on a read-only /. :-) See some posts from 1 or 2 days ago about panics when you 'dd' to a write protected floppy via 'dd if=/kernel of=/dev/fd0'. Looks remarkably similar to me. The same or similar is not completely clear to me. [....] > uname -a output: > FreeBSD cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 19:32:28 root@cheetah.wolves.k12.mo.us:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHEETAH i386 > > Very recent 3.2-STABLE world and kernel (as of a few hours ago). > > If anyone needs me to test any fixes they might have, please tell me > NOW before I put the box into production, and it therefore becomes > unavailable for testing. I can reproduce it here on different hardware so I guess it is not specific to your box. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 5:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4A614D28 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA63615; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:26:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <042c01bea905$6efa9880$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: "Brian Somers" Cc: Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:27:20 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thankyou :) -----Original Message----- From: Brian Somers To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG ; jkh@usa3.freebsd.org Date: 28 May 1999 10:16 Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? >> After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' >> >> I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now >> it does not work!! >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... >> (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) >> >> disk1s2a:> boot >> You have already loaded 'boot' ..... >> disk1s2a:> boot kernel >> (same thing!) >> disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev >> (same thing!!) >> >> Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( >> >> What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! > >You're probably now using /boot/defaults/loader.conf. You can >override things in /boot/loader.conf, or manually: > >disk1s2a:> unload >disk1s2a:> load kernel.prev >disk1s2a:> boot > >> Greg > >-- >Brian > >Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 6:51: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21FB14BE9 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu (r2s1.r.its.enc.edu [10.100.0.21]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22660 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374EA01C.ED16497@enc.edu> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:36 -0400 From: Charles Owens Organization: Eastern Nazarene College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: boot loader worry: moving from 3.0-current to -STABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just read a message or two on one of the lists about some updates to the boot loader code that have happened recently in -STABLE. I have a particular remote system (located in eastern Europe, actually) that I'm in the process of upgrading, and I'd appreciate it very much if someone could assure me that the new boot loader arrangement will not keep my the system from coming back up once I reboot. The system is running 3.0-Current, built around mid-December. I've just now cvsup'ed down the latest -STABLE code and its happily buildworld'ing. I have the text "/boot/loader" in the file /boot.config . After I installworld and reboot, should the new boot loader be happy? I tend to be optimistic about these things... if I'm not too reckless upgrades usually go like clockwork for me. But in this case... with the system being on another continent, I'm trying to be a wee bit more careful. Thanks! --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 7:19: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5048914DBF for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA68154; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199905281418.HAA68154@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: carl@xena.IPAustralia.gov.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: not really related to but triggered from Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:50 +1000 (EST) >From: Carl Makin >> ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates >Is it possible for this message to include *what* filesystem was update >for soft updates? I mentioned this to Julian a while back; as I understand it, at the time the message is issued, the requisite information is not available to be included. david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 7:52:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9791152BD; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu ("port 4324"@jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #30976) with ESMTP id <0FCG00CN66MZAR@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:52:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1540417999-927903131=:21904" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1540417999-927903131=:21904 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The errors we are getting are as follows: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SEQADDR == 0x8 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. 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1999 08:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA26075; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:11:59 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905281511.JAA26075@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-Reply-To: from "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" at "May 28, 1999 10:52:11 am" To: marcus@miami.edu (Joe "Marcus" Clarke) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke wrote... > Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, > and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. > dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The > errors we are getting are as follows: > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > SEQADDR == > 0x8 > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c > ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > > Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get > SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. > Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a > termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an > early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. What kind of drives do you have in the system? Can you send dmesg output from the machine? The timed out while idle messages mean that a read or write command from the da driver timed out. Since the timeout is 60 seconds, this generally indicates a drive problem of some sort. (could be bad firmware) There are some disks that are known to cause problems, so the dmesg might help us determine the problem. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 8:17:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC5814DC5; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu ("port 4362"@jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V5.2-29 #30976) with ESMTP id <0FCG00COO7THAR@jaguar.ir.miami.edu>; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-reply-to: <199905281511.JAA26075@panzer.plutotech.com> To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1345861329-927904661=:22180" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1345861329-927904661=:22180 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kenny, here is the dmesg output. We just disabled the SMP code to keep it stable over the weekend. The SCSI info is the same, though. Thanks for your help. Joe Clarke On Fri, 28 May 1999, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke wrote... > > Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, > > and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. > > dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The > > errors we are getting are as follows: > > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > > SEQADDR == > > 0x8 > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c > > ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > > > > Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get > > SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. > > Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a > > termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an > > early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. > > What kind of drives do you have in the system? Can you send dmesg output > from the machine? > > The timed out while idle messages mean that a read or write command from > the da driver timed out. Since the timeout is 60 seconds, this generally > indicates a drive problem of some sort. 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Merry" Message-Id: <199905281526.JAA26158@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: [help] 3.2-STABLE #1 TAGGED QUEUE is still 'disabled' by default on 2940U2W In-Reply-To: <374CFB56.8F0B7949@tomail.com.tw> from Silver CHEN at "May 27, 1999 03:59:18 pm" To: silver@tomail.com.tw (Silver CHEN) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Silver CHEN wrote... > Dear Sir: > > I've upgraded my box to 3.2-STABLE #1, now it sets the sync. rate > of my LVD box correctly, but the TAGGED QUEUE is still disabled > by default. my SCSI controller is 2940U2W. > > I don't konw if this should be enabled by default or not, but in > 3.1R, it is enabled when boot. > > I can use 'camcontrol' to enable it by hand, this posting here is > just some description about my problem. There are several things that could cause tagged queueing to be disabled. You'll need to check these things to see what's going on: 1. If you have disconnection disabled for the device in the Adaptec BIOS, it'll cause tagged queueing to get disabled, since you won't be able to send more than one transaction at a time. 2. If the DQue bit in mode page 10 is set for that drive, tagged queueing will be disabled. You can check that bit like this: (assuming the disk is "da5") camcontrol modepage da5 -m 8 You can change it like this: camcontrol modepage da5 -m 8 -e -P 3 3. If there is a quirk entry in the transport layer for your drive that disables tagged queueing, obviously your drive won't be doing tagged queueing. To find out if that's the case, look in sys/cam/cam_xpt.c and look in the xpt_quirk_entry structure. If you find your drive in there, that'll explain it. My guess is that your problem is 1 or 2, and not 3. From your previous message, I know we don't disable tagged queueing for those disks in the transport layer. Anyway, let me (and the list) know what you find. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 8:37:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from idea.co.uk (ultra2.idea.co.uk [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF40C14E65; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@idea.co.uk) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by idea.co.uk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA23951; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:27:07 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199905281527.QAA23951@idea.co.uk> Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 To: marcus@miami.edu (Joe "Marcus" Clarke) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:27:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: ken@plutotech.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" at May 28, 99 11:17:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, > > > and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. > > > dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The > > > errors we are getting are as follows: > > > > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > > > SEQADDR == > > > 0x8 > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c > > > ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > > > > > > Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get > > > SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. > > > Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a > > > termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an > > > early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. Me Too! In my case however, this happens on a MB-based Adaptec UW2 and ONLY when a vinum drive is active on the same channel as the tape drive. That is, ChA has 3 disks + 1 tape, 2 of the disks are in a vinum volume, the third (and terminating) disk is "normal". IF the vinum volume is active (eg fsck) with the tape drive plugged in, the tape drive blinks, and the above messages come out... boot -s , and mounting the standalone disk only does NOT display any erros. kernel is SMP, os version is 3.1, i DONT have SCSI ID clashes :-), further info available on request after my 5gb at-a-time backup of the massive volume finishes :-)) Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 9:18:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC7715355 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.1]) by mail.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA78737; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:18:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:18:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs In-Reply-To: <199905280713.JAA10011@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 May 1999, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > If anyone needs me to test any fixes they might have, please tell me > > NOW before I put the box into production, and it therefore becomes > > unavailable for testing. > > I can reproduce it here on different hardware so I guess it is not specific > to your box. Good. I haven't tested this out on my system at home yet, but since it doesn't seem to be specific to this box, I'll not let this prevent me from putting it to use. -- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development). ( http://www.freebsd.org ) "One should admire Windows users. It takes a great deal of courage to trust Windows with your data." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 9:53:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E104B15048 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00994; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905281651.JAA00994@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@usa3.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 May 1999 09:44:36 BST." <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:51:19 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' > > I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now > it does not work!! > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... > (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) > > disk1s2a:> boot > You have already loaded 'boot' ..... > disk1s2a:> boot kernel > (same thing!) > disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev > (same thing!!) > > Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( > > What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! You dropped your clue. Just bend over and pick it up... These commands may also help: ? help lsmod unload -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 10: 2:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857D15048 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA01776; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:02:29 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374D85CE.6FAC3AB8@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:50:07 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > > You may not know - I did. Even things that were only read at startup > could generally be dealt with by restarting just the process that read > that. Of course, if that process was the kernel or init, you wound up > rebooting anyway. And in some cases, the chain of things that depended > on that change was complex enough that rebooting was simpler. You don't need to always reboot FreeBSD either. Of course, most people don't know when it's ok and when it is not. So, the same applies. > For yet another difference - not even Sun recommends installing > *every* fix. FreeBSD doesn't have any other option. Eh? We have the whole cvs available. You can easily make partial upgrades. > Note that I'm *not* proposing such a system for FreeBSD! Merely > pointing out that the differences is very noticable. Still not noticiable to me. It's a black box. Aside from saying "it takes much longer", there is not effective difference. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 10: 3:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50A015357 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA01935; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:03:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374ECA89.4E63497C@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:55:37 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Owens Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot loader worry: moving from 3.0-current to -STABLE References: <374EA01C.ED16497@enc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Owens wrote: > > I've just read a message or two on one of the lists about some updates > to the boot loader code that have happened recently in -STABLE. I have > a particular remote system (located in eastern Europe, actually) that > I'm in the process of upgrading, and I'd appreciate it very much if > someone could assure me that the new boot loader arrangement will not > keep my the system from coming back up once I reboot. Well, I have seen only one such message. All the changes to loader were gradually introduced on -current, and left there a *long* while before brought into -stable. And they were brought into -stable at least two weeks before 3.2, I think. If you want to absolutely avoid any possible problem (that I can think of), remove the file /boot/loader.rc that is installed by 3.2. Of course, the system *should* work with that file as installed, but since someone complained, I can't dismiss the possibility that there could possibly be a situation where things did not work after the upgrade. The upgrade in the loader itself should cause no trouble to anyone. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 10: 3:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7D715357 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id CAA01916; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:03:21 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374EC956.6B4845F5@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:50:30 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? References: <03c801bea8e6$51224f20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Quinlan wrote: > > After a 'cvsup supfile' and a 'make world' > > I see we have a new boot loader .... not Revision 0.5 Revision now 0.7, now > it does not work!! > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.7 ...... > (jkh@usa3.freebsd.org .........) > > disk1s2a:> boot > You have already loaded 'boot' ..... > disk1s2a:> boot kernel > (same thing!) > disk1s2a:> boot kernel.prev > (same thing!!) > > Which means I CAN NOT BOOT!!!!!!!!! ):( > > What is going on? .... this is 3.2-S! I don't have the slightest idea what could possibly be going wrong, but I sure want to find out. Are you the error message when you type "boot" is that? Could you send me your /boot/loader.rc? And... why did you stop autoboot? -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 13: 3:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (oberon.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [195.178.136.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D7214FB8 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jar@ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from ally.ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (jar@eth0.ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.0.1.12]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.NYB/8.NYB) with ESMTP id XAA03939 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:02:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from jar@ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: (from jar@localhost) by ally.ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.9.2/PTF-1.0exp) id XAA39639; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:02:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from jar) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:02:19 +0300 (EEST) From: Yaroslav Halchinsky Message-Id: <199905282002.XAA39639@ally.ptf.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NATD does not allow PING. In-Reply-To: <03ff01bea8e9$e7134a40$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990413 ("Endemoniada") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.1-RELEASE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I thought "all" meant tcp, udp, icmp, ..... > $fwcmd add divert natd all from any to any via > ^^^ > If I ping on nutta (nothing). > But I can telnet/ftp.... etc to them. > Any clues?? Can you try running natd in verbose mode? You'll get the picture what packets are caught and what natd does with them. -- Regards, Yaroslav Halchinsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 13:50:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB52215AEB; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA27578; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:50:13 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905282050.OAA27578@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-Reply-To: from "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" at "May 28, 1999 11:17:41 am" To: marcus@miami.edu (Joe "Marcus" Clarke) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:50:13 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke wrote... > Kenny, here is the dmesg output. We just disabled the SMP code to keep it > stable over the weekend. The SCSI info is the same, though. Thanks for > your help. Well, Justin says this is a SMP problem of some sort. Your SCSI hardware looks fine. So there's not a whole lot we can do about it from a SCSI standpoint. One of the SMP-knowledgeable folks will have to look into it. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 14:40:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6431014F20 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA13735; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990528173920.01508100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:39:20 -0400 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" , marcus@miami.edu (Joe "Marcus" Clarke) From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905281511.JAA26075@panzer.plutotech.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:11 AM 5/28/99 -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: >What kind of drives do you have in the system? Can you send dmesg output >from the machine? > >The timed out while idle messages mean that a read or write command from >the da driver timed out. Since the timeout is 60 seconds, this generally >indicates a drive problem of some sort. (could be bad firmware) > >There are some disks that are known to cause problems, so the dmesg might >help us determine the problem. > Perhaps its an unrelated problem, but on a machine that was ~ 3.2BETA, I got May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 0 80 0 0 May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:30,0 May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Incompatible medium installed May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x2 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x6 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x11 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x10 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x3 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x1 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x12 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x13 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x7 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0x5 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): BDR message in message buffer May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): SCB 0x5 - timed out in message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34b May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 11 SCBs aborted May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE FILEMARKS. CDB: 10 0 0 0 2 0 May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 May 20 17:27:19 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred May 20 17:27:19 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): failed to write terminating filemark(s) May 20 17:28:43 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): tape is now frozen- use an OFFLINE, REWIND or MTEOM command to clear this state. May 21 16:29:56 proxy /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. when doing an rdump to it. I have since updated to 3.2STABLE as of today, and the same rdump does not induce those nasty messages... The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 22:28:15 EDT 1999 mdtancsa@proxy.eyesurf.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/proxy Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (350.80-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183f9ff> real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 128020480 (125020K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc024c000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 10 on pci0.10.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:e7:be:ae ahc0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x3a on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8703MB (17824700 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1109C) changing root device to da0s1a ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 15: 8:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1EA14E53 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id QAA28095; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:24 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905282208.QAA28095@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990528173920.01508100@staff.sentex.ca> from Mike Tancsa at "May 28, 1999 05:39:20 pm" To: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: marcus@miami.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa wrote... > At 09:11 AM 5/28/99 -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > >What kind of drives do you have in the system? Can you send dmesg output > >from the machine? > > > >The timed out while idle messages mean that a read or write command from > >the da driver timed out. Since the timeout is 60 seconds, this generally > >indicates a drive problem of some sort. (could be bad firmware) > > > >There are some disks that are known to cause problems, so the dmesg might > >help us determine the problem. > > > > > > Perhaps its an unrelated problem, but on a machine that was ~ 3.2BETA, I got > > May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 0 80 0 0 > May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:30,0 > May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Incompatible medium installed > May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x2 - timed out in > message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 > May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout > May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf - timed out in > message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 [ ... ] > when doing an rdump to it. > > I have since updated to 3.2STABLE as of today, and the same rdump does not > induce those nasty messages... [ ... ] > sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device > sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 8703MB (17824700 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1109C) > changing root device to da0s1a It looks like the tape drive was causing the timeouts. My guess is that some of the fixes that Matt put in the tape driver may have fixed your problem. This doesn't look like the same problem other folks were having. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 15:24:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from i.caniserv.com (i.caniserv.com [139.142.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5E3A14DBB for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 4711 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 22:24:18 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 28 May 1999 22:24:18 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990528152604.023c79f0@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:26:05 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since we are on the topic 3.2 scsi problems, here is my dmsg output on a system I can't mount the SCSI drives on ( yes this box worked as an NT box), I'm able to newfs them ect, but when I go to mount I get an error of mount: Device is busy. Intel L440GX+ Server board single Intel Petium III 450MHz (not over clocked) 2x 256MB ECC DIMMS 4 Seagate 18.2 GB Cheetah Hotswap SCA Hard drives. 1 6.4 GB IDE (boot device) 1 IDE cd rom master on secondary chain. Intel Astor case (if that helps since it has an adaptec Hotswap cage controller on it) 3.2 release with a CVSup as of 10PM-PDT last night. dmsg to follow: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x49 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0x40 SEQADDR == 0x87 Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0xa0 SEQADDR == 0x15c Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0xa0 SEQADDR == 0x15c (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Command phase. SEQADDR == 0x15d SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x86 SCSIRATE == 0x0 (probe0:ahc1:0:6:4): parity error during Data-In phase. SEQADDR == 0x87 SCSIRATE == 0x0 Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0x40 SEQADDR == 0x86 Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0xa0 SEQADDR == 0x15c Unexpected busfree. LASTPHASE == 0xa0 SEQADDR == 0x15c pass4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device pass4: 3.300MB/s transfers da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) At 04:08 PM 5/28/99 -0600, you wrote: >Mike Tancsa wrote... >> At 09:11 AM 5/28/99 -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: >> >What kind of drives do you have in the system? Can you send dmesg output >> >from the machine? >> > >> >The timed out while idle messages mean that a read or write command from >> >the da driver timed out. Since the timeout is 60 seconds, this generally >> >indicates a drive problem of some sort. (could be bad firmware) >> > >> >There are some disks that are known to cause problems, so the dmesg might >> >help us determine the problem. >> > >> >> >> >> Perhaps its an unrelated problem, but on a machine that was ~ 3.2BETA, I got >> >> May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): WRITE(06). CDB: a 0 0 80 0 0 >> May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:30,0 >> May 20 11:56:21 proxy /kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:4:0): Incompatible medium installed >> May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x2 - timed out in >> message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 >> May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Other SCB Timeout >> May 20 17:27:18 proxy /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0xf - timed out in >> message in phase, SEQADDR == 0x153 > >[ ... ] > >> when doing an rdump to it. >> >> I have since updated to 3.2STABLE as of today, and the same rdump does not >> induce those nasty messages... > >[ ... ] > >> sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 >> sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device >> sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) >> da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device >> da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing >> Enabled >> da0: 8703MB (17824700 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1109C) >> changing root device to da0s1a > >It looks like the tape drive was causing the timeouts. My guess is that >some of the fixes that Matt put in the tape driver may have fixed your >problem. > >This doesn't look like the same problem other folks were having. > >Ken >-- >Kenneth Merry >ken@plutotech.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 16: 9: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7E914FED for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05161; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08730; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14638; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199905282308.QAA14638@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:08:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: David Wolfskill "Re: not really related to but triggered from Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs" (May 28, 7:18am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: David Wolfskill , carl@xena.IPAustralia.gov.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: not really related to but triggered from Re: (again) panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On May 28, 7:18am, David Wolfskill wrote: } Subject: Re: not really related to but triggered from Re: (again) panic: v } >Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:50 +1000 (EST) } >From: Carl Makin } } >> ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates } } >Is it possible for this message to include *what* filesystem was update } >for soft updates? } } I mentioned this to Julian a while back; as I understand it, at the time } the message is issued, the requisite information is not available to be } included. What about fs_fsmnt[]? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17: 1:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D4914C10 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA27028 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) From: Geff Hanoian Message-Id: <199905290001.RAA27028@kusanagi.boing.com> Subject: oltr driver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy, I'd just like to say I'm VERY VERY extatic that someone did this. Thanks very much. I'm having compilation trouble. I'm on 3.2 as of this morning (5/28/99). I have done a make installworld of 3.2 and made a 3.2 kernel without the oltr driver. I then rebooted. After that I did a config -r on my new file making sure to include the line: device oltr0 . At the end of the make I get the following: loading kernel if_oltr.o: In function `oltr_attach_common': if_oltr.o(.text+0x888): undefined reference to `iso88025_output' if_oltr.o(.text+0x91e): undefined reference to `iso88025_ifattach' if_oltr.o: In function `oltr_ioctl': if_oltr.o(.text+0x117a): undefined reference to `iso88025_ioctl' if_oltr.o: In function `DriverReceiveFrameCompleted': if_oltr.o(.text+0x1f7c): undefined reference to `iso88025_input' *** Error code 1 1 error I can provide any other information that is desired. Has anyone else seen this problem? I haven't searched high and low yet for these symbols, but I will tonight. Thanks for the help. Geff config file: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.14 1999/05/17 05:49:45 obrien Exp $ machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident STONE maxusers 256 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device #options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options "MAXMEM=(128*1024)" #memory probe force config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency #controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus #options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM #device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller ncr0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. #controller dpt0 #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? controller scbus0 device da0 device sa0 device pass0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # #device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port #device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 #controller ppbus0 #device lpt0 at ppbus? #device plip0 at ppbus? #device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') device oltr0 # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 ##device xe0 at isa? port? net irq ? #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 #pseudo-device ppp 1 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 256 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17: 9: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70161504C for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA24844; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:08:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Geff Hanoian Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: oltr driver In-Reply-To: <199905290001.RAA27028@kusanagi.boing.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 May 1999, Geff Hanoian wrote: > After that I did a config -r on my new file making sure to include the line: > device oltr0 > . At the end of the make I get the following: Add: pseudo-device token # Token ring To your kernel and re-config, compile. > loading kernel > if_oltr.o: In function `oltr_attach_common': > if_oltr.o(.text+0x888): undefined reference to `iso88025_output' > if_oltr.o(.text+0x91e): undefined reference to `iso88025_ifattach' > if_oltr.o: In function `oltr_ioctl': > if_oltr.o(.text+0x117a): undefined reference to `iso88025_ioctl' > if_oltr.o: In function `DriverReceiveFrameCompleted': > if_oltr.o(.text+0x1f7c): undefined reference to `iso88025_input' > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > > I can provide any other information that is desired. > > Has anyone else seen this problem? I haven't searched high and low yet > for these symbols, but I will tonight. > > Thanks for the help. > > Geff > > config file: > # > # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks > # > # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> > # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. > # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as > # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server > # > # > # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the > # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are > # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. > # > # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.14 1999/05/17 05:49:45 obrien Exp $ > > machine "i386" > #cpu "I386_CPU" > #cpu "I486_CPU" > cpu "I586_CPU" > cpu "I686_CPU" > ident STONE > maxusers 256 > > #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation > options INET #InterNETworking > options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem > options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] > options MFS #Memory Filesystem > options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed > options NFS #Network Filesystem > options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed > options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem > options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem > options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed > options PROCFS #Process filesystem > options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] > options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device > #options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console > options FAILSAFE #Be conservative > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor > options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor > options "MAXMEM=(128*1024)" #memory probe force > > config kernel root on wd0 > > # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed > #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel > #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O > # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): > #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs > #options NBUS=4 # number of busses > #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs > #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs > > controller isa0 > controller pnp0 > controller eisa0 > controller pci0 > > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 > > #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency > #controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 > #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 > #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 > > #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 > #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 > #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 > > #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus > #options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM > #device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM > #device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) > > # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is > # sufficient for any number of installed devices. > controller ncr0 > #controller ahb0 > #controller ahc0 > #controller isp0 > > # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to > # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the > # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. > #controller dpt0 > > #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? > #controller adw0 > #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? > #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? > > controller scbus0 > > device da0 > > device sa0 > > device pass0 > > device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows > > #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 > #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 > > #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio > > #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio > > # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty > device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 > device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 > > device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts > > # splash screen/screen saver > pseudo-device splash > > # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console > device sc0 at isa? tty > # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver > #device vt0 at isa? tty > options XSERVER # support for X server > #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor > # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines > #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std > > device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 > > # > # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) > # > #device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management > > # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support > #controller card0 > #device pcic0 at card? > #device pcic1 at card? > > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 > device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 > #device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 > #device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 > > # Parallel port > #device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 > #controller ppbus0 > #device lpt0 at ppbus? > #device plip0 at ppbus? > #device ppi0 at ppbus? > #controller vpo0 at ppbus? > > # > # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. > # > #device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A > #device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') > #device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) > #device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') > #device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') > #device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 > device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN > #device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') > #device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II > #device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') > #device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F > #device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') > device oltr0 > > # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize > # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. > # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See > # revision 1.20 of this file. > > #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 > #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 > #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? > #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? > #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 > #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 > ##device xe0 at isa? port? net irq ? > #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? > > > pseudo-device loop > pseudo-device ether > #pseudo-device sl 1 > #pseudo-device ppp 1 > #pseudo-device tun 1 > pseudo-device pty 256 > pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's > > # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). > # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases > # the costs of each syscall. > options KTRACE #kernel tracing > > # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. > # > options SYSVSHM > options SYSVMSG > options SYSVSEM > > # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be > # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this > # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of > # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter > > ----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17: 9:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDC615175 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA153916542; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:09:02 -0400 Subject: How good is SCO emulation? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:09:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 974 Message-Id: <19990529000910.BDDC615175@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG WE have a system installed by a vendor that runs on SCO OpenServer. Today I went to add this sytem to our network only to find that I had inherited a UNIX box _without networking_! After conversations with an SCO salse droid, and his pupet distributor, I am lead to belive that I must do a cold install, just to add neworkign! And worse they want to cahrge me for every use, even ove the network! So here is the question, is it reasonable to consider runing the vendors app unmodified under FreeBSD? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17:18:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (silver234.mminternet.com [209.241.149.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AE814C10 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA27151 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) From: Geff Hanoian Message-Id: <199905290018.RAA27151@kusanagi.boing.com> Subject: Re: oltr driver - my config file fixed In-Reply-To: from "Matthew N. Dodd" at "May 28, 1999 8: 8:38 pm" To: winter@jurai.net (Matthew N. Dodd) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:17:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17:29:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00421530A for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA16874; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:28:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA09940; Sat, 29 May 1999 02:28:36 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:28:36 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: How good is SCO emulation? In-Reply-To: <19990529000910.BDDC615175@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 May 1999, Stan Brown wrote: > WE have a system installed by a vendor that runs on SCO OpenServer. > Today I went to add this sytem to our network only to find that I had > inherited a UNIX box _without networking_! Bad news.. > > After conversations with an SCO salse droid, and his pupet distributor, > I am lead to belive that I must do a cold install, just to add > neworkign! Nope that is plain madness ..you can intall the IP software on SCO just as you do any package however you will need to pay for the software. >And worse they want to cahrge me for every use, even ove the > network! Nope that is not correct .. you have to purchase a Licence to use the IP stack on sco for X concurrent clients. > > So here is the question, is it reasonable to consider runing the > vendors app unmodified under FreeBSD? I'm not shure what the status of the (name of SCO comp module escape me) is but you should be able to run some apps if you copy the libc's etc over from your SCO box. Michael P.S. Sorry that I'm a bit fuzzy at the moment but my brain is taking a vacation without me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 17:29:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC305155DC for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA175827784; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:29:44 -0400 Subject: Seting Up Netscape with SOCKS firewall To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 772 Message-Id: <19990529002946.DC305155DC@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a dual boot machine. It runs FreeBSD 3.2 and NT. On both partitons I have Netscape 4. I am behind a coprporate SOCKS firewll. Mu IP address is the same for either OS. Netscape works (can get through the firewall) on NT, but not FreeBSD. If it matters I am not in the corporate DNS. Any ideas? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 28 23: 7:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4840015112 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA30262; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:07:27 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905290607.AAA30262@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990528152604.023c79f0@mail.ok-connect.com> from Darcy Buskermolen at "May 28, 1999 03:26:05 pm" To: Darcy@ok-connect.com (Darcy Buskermolen) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM927958047-30193-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ELM927958047-30193-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Darcy Buskermolen wrote... > Since we are on the topic 3.2 scsi problems, here is my dmsg output on a > system I can't mount the SCSI drives on ( yes this box worked as an NT > box), I'm able to newfs them ect, but when I go to mount I get an error of > mount: Device is busy. It's generally better to send SCSI problems to the SCSI list (freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG). You're much more likely to get a response. The more noise that hits this list, the less I read it. :) > Intel L440GX+ Server board > single Intel Petium III 450MHz (not over clocked) > 2x 256MB ECC DIMMS > 4 Seagate 18.2 GB Cheetah Hotswap SCA Hard drives. > 1 6.4 GB IDE (boot device) > 1 IDE cd rom master on secondary chain. > Intel Astor case (if that helps since it has an adaptec Hotswap cage > controller on it) > 3.2 release with a CVSup as of 10PM-PDT last night. > dmsg to follow: > > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. > SEQADDR == 0x49 > SCSIRATE == 0x0 > (probe0:ahc1:0:6:1): parity error during Data-In phase. > SEQADDR == 0x87 > SCSIRATE == 0x0 [ ... ] > pass4 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 > pass4: Fixed Processor SCSI-2 device > pass4: 3.300MB/s transfers > da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) > da3 at ahc1 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 > da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da3: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) > da2 at ahc1 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da2: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) > da1 at ahc1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da1: 17366MB (35566480 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2213C) In general, I would say you have a cabling or termination problem. But, there is another possible explanation. Your enclosure seems to be the device that may be generating the problems, and the parity errors only seem to happen during probe of non-zero luns on that device. Try the attached patch for sys/cam/cam_xpt.c. It will hopefully disable multi-LUN probing for that device. I think I've properly separated the vendor ID from the device id, but it could be that you'll need to tweak this a bit. Note that the patch is against -current, but it should apply to -stable all right. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com --ELM927958047-30193-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=cam_xpt.c.encl_diffs.052999 Content-Description: cam_xpt.c.encl_diffs.052999 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ==== //depot/cam/sys/cam/cam_xpt.c#196 - /usr/home/ken/perforce/cam/sys/cam/cam_xpt.c ==== *** /tmp/tmp.7724.0 Sat May 29 00:05:30 1999 --- /usr/home/ken/perforce/cam/sys/cam/cam_xpt.c Fri May 28 23:59:55 1999 *************** *** 389,394 **** --- 389,401 ---- /*quirks*/0, /*mintags*/2, /*maxtags*/32 }, { + /* + * Can't handle multiple lun probing. + */ + { T_PROCESSOR, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "ESG-SHV", "SCA HSBP*", "*"}, + /*quirks*/ CAM_QUIRK_NOLUNS, /*mintags*/ 0, /*maxtags*/ 0 + }, + { /* Really only one LUN */ { T_ENCLOSURE, SIP_MEDIA_FIXED, "SUN", "SENA*", "*" --ELM927958047-30193-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 3:56:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2225614C44 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 03:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p407.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.124.7]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05160 from for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:56:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA55222 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 29 May 1999 11:49:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable@FreeBSD.ORG) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:49:09 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <374FB815.693457FE@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <19990529000910.BDDC615175@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: How good is SCO emulation? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > > WE have a system installed by a vendor that runs on SCO OpenServer. [snip] > So here is the question, is it reasonable to consider runing the > vendors app unmodified under FreeBSD? You didn't actually told use what the system/app is, but numerous SCO applications work under iBCS2 emulation. The fact that networking is not needed, can be a plus. If you have the resources, try it out. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 3:58:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from SIMULTAN.CH (eunet-gw.simultan.ch [194.191.191.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF39914D8D for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 03:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Received: from simultan.ch ([192.92.128.235]) by SIMULTAN.CH (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA80102; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:58:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Message-ID: <374FC8E4.998FF24F@simultan.ch> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:00:52 +0200 From: Thomas Seidmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Seting Up Netscape with SOCKS firewall References: <19990529002946.DC305155DC@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > > I have a dual boot machine. It runs FreeBSD 3.2 and NT. On both > partitons I have Netscape 4. I am behind a coprporate SOCKS firewll. Mu > IP address is the same for either OS. > > Netscape works (can get through the firewall) on NT, but not FreeBSD. > If it matters I am not in the corporate DNS. > > Any ideas? Did you set up the SOCKS host in Netscape identically on both machies? Also, what is the named configuration in FreeBSD on the machine? If there is no named running, is your resolv.conf OK? And last one: do other socksified programms (sftp, stelnet) work as expected? Cheers, Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 12:32:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CCF14CCB for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA10854 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 21:32:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: DOC2K driver for 3.2-RELEASE available From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:32:32 +0200 Message-ID: <10851.928006352@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think I have managed to knit a 3.2-RELEASE version of the DOC2K driver, you'll find on my server in the usual place: http://phk.freebsd.dk/doc2k Please notice that I have corrected the goof I made a chrdev assignment, so please make sure you apply the MAKEDEV.patch as described in the README. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 14:21:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD7914C42 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id GAA05042; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:21:02 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <374ECFB6.9AAC572B@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 02:17:42 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who broke the boot loader (3.2-S)? References: <199905281651.JAA00994@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > disk1s2a:> boot > > You have already loaded 'boot' ..... > > You dropped your clue. Just bend over and pick it up... Boot ought to have booted, though. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 17:33:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E3B14DB9; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-35.cybcon.com [205.147.75.36]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA19991; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:33:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: FW: ps/2 mouse problems....... Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:33:43 -0700 Message-ID: <000101beaa34$12812f30$244b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After resuming from a suspend on a Toshiba Satellite 110CT mu ps/2 mouse was dead. I saw this message on the console... Warning: APM hook "PS/2 mouse" failed ideas? William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 22:25:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4ACD152E8 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from netinfo3.ubc.ca ([137.82.27.47] ident=dustinl) by mail.unixg.ubc.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ny63-0006eS-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:25:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Lang X-Sender: dustinl@netinfo3.ubc.ca To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been playing with FreeBSD the last few days. I've got 3.2-Release installed, got a custom kernel built, and I'm now customizing things to my liking. Everything has gone smoothly, with a few bumps due to errors in the operator code (ie, me :). I come from a Linux background, so some of the BSDisms take a little getting used to. From what I've seen so far, FreeBSD seems like a good solid system with a lot of attention given to details. I'm impressed with the attention to security issues throughout. Also, my mind is still grappling with the idea that there is only _one_ distribution. ("What kind of system do you run?" "Well, I started out with Slackware 3.4, but now I'm running kernel 2.2.9 and glibc2 and... should I just send you `ldconfig -v`?" :) I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, but it's just so unfriendly. Doing the install was simple and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My editor of choice is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you might want in an editor, but for doing a 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of course, that's just me... Before hitting reply and flaming me, check this out and have a chuckle... http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99may/19990508.html (disregard the Linux advertising/propaganda) Thanks to all the developers out there for making a great system! dstn. ---------------------------------------------------- -- Dustin Lang, dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca -- (java developer, linux guy, freak with rainbow hair) User, n.: a particularly slow and unreliable input/ output device that is attached by default to the standard input and output streams. (stolen from a Gamelan article, author unknown) ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 22:45:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883D51537C for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA16141; Sun, 30 May 1999 01:07:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Dustin Lang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 May 1999, Dustin Lang wrote: > > Hi, > > I've been playing with FreeBSD the last few days. I've got 3.2-Release > installed, got a custom kernel built, and I'm now customizing things to > my liking. Everything has gone smoothly, with a few bumps due to errors > in the operator code (ie, me :). > > I come from a Linux background, so some of the BSDisms take a little > getting used to. From what I've seen so far, FreeBSD seems like a good > solid system with a lot of attention given to details. I'm impressed with > the attention to security issues throughout. Also, my mind is still > grappling with the idea that there is only _one_ distribution. ("What kind > of system do you run?" "Well, I started out with Slackware 3.4, but now > I'm running kernel 2.2.9 and glibc2 and... should I just send you > `ldconfig -v`?" :) > > I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. > Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame war or > anything, but it's just so unfriendly. Doing the install was simple > and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My editor of choice > is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the > bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you > might want in an editor, but for doing a 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of > course, that's just me... that's odd, freebsd has "ee" a simple editor that _should_ be the default... I dislike ee and I hate pico. Pico is so featureless it's shameful, for instance can you: delete 5 lines quickly? 5dd now go up 20 lines and insert that cut text? 20kP append to end of line? A replace all X for next 5 lines? :.,+5s/pattern/replace/g go to a line, like 2000? 2000G not worry about getting your lines wrapped? yes and then there's wonderful "gvim" (/usr/ports/editors/vim) which offers an X interface, mouse and syntax highlighting. When I was first exposed to vi after using Pico I thought I'd never use it as well, however since the professor at my school made sure to ridicule you unless you were using vi several weeks into his classes I soon made the switch. trust me, it's worth it. Not only programmers and administrators benifit from vi but at my last job it was even a requirement for the HTML people. It'll also save your skin when/if you ever have to do something on a bare-install commercial unix, as they mostly don't come equiped with anything besides vi. learn vi, it's good for you. a lot of companies hiring for admin jobs ask a few vi questions as the first thing of the interview, if you don't know the answers you should consider the interview over. -Alfred > Before hitting reply and flaming me, check this out and have a chuckle... > http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99may/19990508.html > (disregard the Linux advertising/propaganda) laff :) I remeber edlin and have used "ex" quite a number of times to fix really broken things... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 22:46:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957801537C for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:46:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA70374; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:46:21 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Dustin Lang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990529224621.B70279@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dustin Lang on Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:25:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:25:19PM -0700, Dustin Lang wrote: [ DELETED ] > I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. > Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame war or > anything, but it's just so unfriendly. Doing the install was simple > and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My editor of choice > is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the > bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you > might want in an editor, but for doing a 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of > course, that's just me... It's a style thing. Some use vi, some use emacs, and some (G*D only knows why) use ee. My Grandfather told me there are 4 things one should never discuss in public; religion, politics, editors, and bracing styles. Sound advice. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.2 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 29 23:44:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from news.kiev.sovam.com (news.kiev.sovam.com [194.186.143.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E323214D4E for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mail@news.kiev.sovam.com) Received: from mail by news.kiev.sovam.com with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10nzKZ-000Osy-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:44:23 +0300 From: Vladimir Litovka To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: Vladimir Litovka Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Date: 30 May 1999 06:44:22 GMT Message-ID: <7iqmo6$2tcc$2@news.kiev.sovam.com> References: X-Organization: Sovam Teleport Kiev (post does not reflect views of Sovam Teleport) X-Gated-By: news2list v1.3-pl1, (c) Vladimir Litovka X-Gated-Date: Sun May 30 06:44:23 1999 GMT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred Perlstein wrote: > learn vi, it's good for you. Note, that vi is featureless editor, use vim (/usr/ports/editors/vim) instead. It has lots of good thing and more powerful, than vi. -- doka To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 0:20:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1ADF14DA2 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 00:20:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10799; Sun, 30 May 1999 02:20:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:20:36 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990530022036.A10524@futuresouth.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Alfred Perlstein on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:07:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Everytime people ask me about vi, I show them this neat little trick and they're amazed. http://lists.intuit.com/~corby/vi/solve_maze.html The real answer without the show though, is that vi is the only editor that allows my fingers to stay on the home keys most of the time (other than having to hit escape). Throw in an IBM trackpoint pointing device and it's a touch typist's dream. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 0:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E69A14C0B for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 00:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 24539 invoked by uid 100); 30 May 1999 07:54:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 May 1999 07:54:00 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-Reply-To: <374D85CE.6FAC3AB8@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 May 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > You may not know - I did. Even things that were only read at startup > > could generally be dealt with by restarting just the process that read > > that. Of course, if that process was the kernel or init, you wound up > > rebooting anyway. And in some cases, the chain of things that depended > > on that change was complex enough that rebooting was simpler. > You don't need to always reboot FreeBSD either. Of course, most > people don't know when it's ok and when it is not. So, the same > applies. The documented and supported method of applying a patch is to shut the system down and do a "make world" (or "make isntallworld"). As I recall sun's patches, only those that actually changed the system configuration in some way asked that you reboot the system. As above, that's broader than what's required if you know what you're doing, but it's still a lot finer grained than "make world." > > For yet another difference - not even Sun recommends installing > > *every* fix. FreeBSD doesn't have any other option. > Eh? We have the whole cvs available. You can easily make partial > upgrades. But those aren't supported! Reporting a problem with such a process here brought ire down upon me - and justifiably so, for not having read the docs. After all, you've got the sources - so you can create patcheson your own. But that's not supported, any more than editing binaries to create "patches" on Suns is supported. > > Note that I'm *not* proposing such a system for FreeBSD! Merely > > pointing out that the differences is very noticable. > Still not noticiable to me. It's a black box. Aside from saying "it > takes much longer", there is not effective difference. Sorry, but I don't agree. With a patch system, I apply the patches to systems that have problems, or if it's a security patch, to those systems at risk - and that's what the distribution mechanism supports. With FreeBSD, building anything but a snapshot of the source isn't supported. Both allow finer control than that - but those technics aren't supported by either one. ; Sun, 30 May 1999 00:54:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dread@texas.net) Received: from donhm.calcasieu.com (localhost.calcasieu.com [127.0.0.1]) by donhm.calcasieu.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01439; Sun, 30 May 1999 02:42:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dread@texas.net) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:42:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Read To: Dustin Lang Subject: RE: Ramblings from a Newbie... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well it's late and php is kicking my butt On 30-May-99 Dustin Lang wrote: > > > I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. > Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame war or > anything, but it's just so unfriendly. "Contrary to popular belief, vi is user-friendly. It's just very selective with whom it makes friends with." Doing the install was simple > and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My editor of choice > is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the > bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you > might want in an editor, but for doing a 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of > course, that's just me... > Because it's there. 'tis on FreeBSD, Linux, the HP's, on DG/UX, and even on them nasty SCO boxes; Vee-eye is always there. > Before hitting reply and flaming me, check this out and have a chuckle... > http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99may/19990508.html editor of last resort :dd bs=1 Regards, --- Don Read dread@calcasieu.com EDP Manager dread@texas.net Calcasieu Lumber Co. Austin TX -- Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 1:43: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4334114FCD for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 01:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA06230; Sun, 30 May 1999 04:04:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 04:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Vladimir Litovka Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: <7iqmo6$2tcc$2@news.kiev.sovam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30 May 1999, Vladimir Litovka wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > learn vi, it's good for you. > > Note, that vi is featureless editor, use vim (/usr/ports/editors/vim) > instead. It has lots of good thing and more powerful, than vi. If you read my entire message that's what i recommened. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 6:14:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bridget.mindriot.net (D6022.DIALUP.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.157.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FEF014F2B for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) Received: from localhost (cjc26@localhost) by bridget.mindriot.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00380; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:12:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: bridget.mindriot.net: cjc26 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:12:59 +0000 (GMT) From: a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality X-Sender: cjc26@bridget.mindriot.net To: Tim Tsai Cc: Alfred Perlstein , Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: <19990530022036.A10524@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 May 1999, Tim Tsai wrote: > The real answer without the show though, is that vi is the only editor > that allows my fingers to stay on the home keys most of the time (other > than having to hit escape). Throw in an IBM trackpoint pointing device > and it's a touch typist's dream. Yes, and as we all know, Emacs stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift :) Cliff Crawford http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ -><- i l i k e o a t m e a l )O( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 6:19:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bridget.mindriot.net (D6022.DIALUP.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.157.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D54614F2B for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) Received: from localhost (cjc26@localhost) by bridget.mindriot.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00422; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:18:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: bridget.mindriot.net: cjc26 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:18:34 +0000 (GMT) From: a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality X-Sender: cjc26@bridget.mindriot.net To: Dustin Lang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 May 1999, Dustin Lang wrote: > My editor of choice > is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the > bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you > might want in an editor, Pico doesn't even have search and replace. Cliff Crawford http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ -><- i l i k e o a t m e a l )O( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 6:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEC21507C for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:54:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from athena ([24.3.219.36]) by mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990530135420.OUM21001.mail.rdc1.nj.home.com@athena>; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:54:20 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990530093822.00c6e0b0@email.eden.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:38:22 -0500 To: Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:25 PM 5/29/99 -0700, Dustin Lang wrote: >I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. >Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame war or >anything, but it's just so unfriendly. Doing the install was simple >and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My editor of choice >is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has instructions on the >bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all the advanced features you >might want in an editor, but for doing a 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of >course, that's just me... >-- Dustin Lang, dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca -- In general, vi is 'universal'. There is hardly a unix system today that does not have vi as an editor. It is generally very small and actually has a lot of potential and power packed inside. vi has powerful substitution strings commands that perl has based most of it's powerful string manipulation powers on. In short, it is small, and extremely powerful. The great downside is ... for an editor, it actually has a learning curve. I think I tried using pico once and it added a few newlines at some parts... did some bad things to a configuration file that should not have been there. (could be me.) I have never statically linked pico, so I have no idea how big it would get. You can change the default editor through the environment settings. An 'easier' editor to use is 'ee'. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 6:59:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C4A15180 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 06:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id XAA18928; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:58:46 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19990530235843.07243@welearn.com.au> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:58:43 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: Dustin Lang Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Dustin Lang on Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:25:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:25:19PM -0700, Dustin Lang wrote: > > I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even BSD. > Why on earth do people use vi? The simple and complete answer to your question will be found at http://www.daemonnews.org/199810/editing.html -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 8:55: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DD614CB9 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 08:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10o7vU-0005g6-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:55:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:55:04 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ELF and a.out disagreements. Message-ID: <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to trace down an odd problem which seems to be getting into ld.so behaviour that I don't think is optimal ... After I upgraded one of my 2.2.8-R machine to 3.2-S I stopped being able to run several linux binaries under emulation, everything was turned on and installed as it should be, I reinstalled the linux_lib package, just to be sure, but netscape, acrobat and applix would fail with "symbol not found" error messages: ./netscape.linux.4.08.bin: can't resolve symbol '__mb_cur_max' ./netscape.linux.4.08.bin: can't resolve symbol '_DefaultRuneLocale' ./netscape.linux.4.08.bin: can't resolve symbol '_CurrentRuneLocale' ./netscape.linux.4.08.bin: can't resolve symbol '__sF' Linux ld.so seemed to be getting called correctly, all the libraries shown in ldd output were there ... boggled me and a couple of other people. Eventually I had a similar problem with a FreeBSD 2 binary that was still on the machine after the upgrade, this gave me a slightly more useful error message from ld.so that 'library (random X lib) was -1 older than expected minor version (n), using it anyway' followed by a bad magic number complaint for the same library. It dawned on me that ld.so - a.out ld.so - was trying to use ELF libraries and I quickly worked out this was because I had LD_LIBRARY_PATH set that included /usr/X11R6/lib (something that is often needed on Solaris boxes if people havn't used -R correctly). I uset LD_LIBRARY_PATH and all of these problems went away ... 1) This was impossible for me to debug with linux binaries. 2) a.out ld.so was dying on ELF libraries ... now, I know that was in part my fault for pointing it at them, but surely this is something thats going to keep happening ? How do you (as a user) point ELF ld.so at extra libraries without making a.out ld.so break ? 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The evaluation is performed by qualified American physicians in a manner which is simple, secure, and without embarrassment. http://www.smartsurf.net/clients/medicalcenter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 10:29: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mserv.rug.ac.be (mserv.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB3D1508F for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Tony.Voet@rug.ac.be) Received: from allserv.rug.ac.be (allserv.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.42]) by mserv.rug.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA27837; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:28:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from rug.ac.be (pdln1p57.rug.ac.be [157.193.30.57]) by allserv.rug.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA02701; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:28:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <375174E2.866BD141@rug.ac.be> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:26:58 +0200 From: Tony Voet Organization: Gent University - Radiology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: nl, en, fr, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stan Brown Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Seting Up Netscape with SOCKS firewall References: <19990529002946.DC305155DC@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stan Brown wrote: > > I have a dual boot machine. It runs FreeBSD 3.2 and NT. On both > partitons I have Netscape 4. I am behind a coprporate SOCKS firewll. Mu > IP address is the same for either OS. > > Netscape works (can get through the firewall) on NT, but not FreeBSD. > If it matters I am not in the corporate DNS. Netscape/NT uses "ssl" as SOCKS user, while Netscape/FreeBSD uses your login. Try sending "ssl" from FreeBSD... If this doesn't work, the SOCKS logs will point in the right direction. tv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 10:57:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98CA1504A for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:57:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA73262; Sun, 30 May 1999 10:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 10:56:52 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality Cc: Tim Tsai , Alfred Perlstein , Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990530105652.A73222@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: <19990530022036.A10524@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:12:59PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:12:59PM +0000, a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 1999, Tim Tsai wrote: > > > The real answer without the show though, is that vi is the only editor > > that allows my fingers to stay on the home keys most of the time (other > > than having to hit escape). Throw in an IBM trackpoint pointing device > > and it's a touch typist's dream. > > Yes, and as we all know, Emacs stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift :) EMACS == Eighty Meg And Constantly Swapping ;-) Josef "Give me emacs or give me death" Grosch -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.2 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 12:42:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vital.bleeding.com (vital.bleeding.com [206.251.12.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3AF14D48 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Received: from crimson (crimson [144.254.195.6]) by vital.bleeding.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA10369 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjwolf@bleeding.com) Message-ID: <004f01beaad4$9b3234a0$06c3fe90@cisco.com> From: "Justin Wolf" To: References: <19990530022036.A10524@futuresouth.com> <19990530105652.A73222@ontario.mooseriver.com> Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:42:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since it's a holiday, I'll add my two cents to this rambling conversation... > > Yes, and as we all know, Emacs stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift :) > > EMACS == Eighty Meg And Constantly Swapping ;-) In regards to vi's user-unfriendliness: I used to use Pico, but as more and more of my efforts were spent editing files on a Unix machine, I started to develop disdain for such an underpowered editor (as it's meant to simply edit email messages for pine, it doesn't really need to be all-powerful). At first, vi seemed unwieldly... far too many key presses, why aren't there menus, and where the hell is the online-help? After struggling with vi for a while and trying to find things in the man page, I bought the little O'Reilly 'Learning the vi Editor' handbook. It taught me most of what I know today. I can get around vi with enough comfort that I use it any time I find myself editing things on a unix box. And vi is small enough that it loads pretty damn quick. As with Unix itself, once you learn the basics, you can combine them for amazing amounts of power. Now if only it had column cut & paste... I tried EMacs, even xemacs... I'd have to spend a lot more time reading documentation and fiddling about just to figure out how to exit to application (programs of this size are no longer mere 'programs' - they're applications). Most of the power of emacs is lost on me... my brain is not big enough to grasp the concept. I've heard of people who actually use emacs as their command-line shell. I used to edit web pages with notepad.exe... now I use vi. I'm much happier. (I still use pine though...) -Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 13:36:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC58D14F4F for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:36:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 69059 invoked by uid 100); 30 May 1999 20:36:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 May 1999 20:36:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: <19990530105652.A73222@ontario.mooseriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Patiently waiting...] On Sun, 30 May 1999, Josef Grosch wrote: > EMACS == Eighty Meg And Constantly Swapping ;-) Which means it's something like a third the size of a NetScape Communicator - even though it includes a web browser. ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@kl732301.cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (root@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by atlrel2.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id RAA20265 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kl732301.cup.hp.com (klui@kl732301.cup.hp.com [15.61.226.86]) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id OAA05997 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by kl732301.cup.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA07822; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:06:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:06:16 -0700 From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199905302106.OAA07822@kl732301.cup.hp.com> To: stable@freebsd.org X-Also-Posted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Cannot close ATAPI CD tray via wmcdplay Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test66 (4 June 1998) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running FreeBSD 3.2 and wmcdplay will not close my ATAPI CD-ROM's CD tray. The tray will open via software control. Under Linux 2.2.7, wmcdplay opens and closes my CD tray without any problems. Anyone else run into this problem before? Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenu klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 14:30:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2172E15213 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18334.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.14]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19926; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA06837; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:31:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:31:08 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Ken Lui Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot close ATAPI CD tray via wmcdplay Message-ID: <19990530173108.C6701@mad> References: <199905302106.OAA07822@kl732301.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199905302106.OAA07822@kl732301.cup.hp.com>; from Ken Lui on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 02:06:16PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 02:06:16PM -0700, Ken Lui wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 3.2 and wmcdplay will not close my ATAPI CD-ROM's > CD tray. The tray will open via software control. Under Linux 2.2.7, > wmcdplay opens and closes my CD tray without any problems. Anyone else > run into this problem before? Does it close when you use the cdcontrol(1) "close" command? -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 14:49:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297F814D79 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 14:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id XAA22860; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:30:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10oDCi-0008PK-00; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:33:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:33:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Adam Szilveszter To: Ken Lui Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot close ATAPI CD tray via wmcdplay In-Reply-To: <199905302106.OAA07822@kl732301.cup.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! > I'm running FreeBSD 3.2 and wmcdplay will not close my ATAPI CD-ROM's > CD tray. The tray will open via software control. Under Linux 2.2.7, > wmcdplay opens and closes my CD tray without any problems. Anyone else > run into this problem before? Yep. I have a Sony CDU621 and I am using xmcd for it because it was the only one that actually had a console interface as well. But the problem remains: I can open the tray but not close it. This is way too bad, because otherwise I could use the very useful locking feature barring the use of the Eject button on the CD-ROM front panel. What is another problem, at least with me that after I eject a CD and insert a new one, I have to exit and enter xmcd again, otherwise it will not notice the change. Way too bad, these problems but as I felt from the docs, I was quite fortunate that my CD worked at all. At least almost every player prog is very much focused on SCSI devices... whereas ATAPI drives are very common and also widely supported under alternative means of making a computer do something (i.e. Win) But maybe later... Regards: Szilveszter Adam JATE Szeged To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 15: 4:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F225214C4E for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:04:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id PAA28298; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id PAA07525; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199905302200.PAA07525@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: Cannot close ATAPI CD tray via wmcdplay To: vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca (Tim Vanderhoek) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990530173108.C6701@mad> from "Tim Vanderhoek" at May 30, 99 05:31:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 02:06:16PM -0700, Ken Lui wrote: > > I'm running FreeBSD 3.2 and wmcdplay will not close my ATAPI CD-ROM's > > CD tray. The tray will open via software control. Under Linux 2.2.7, > > wmcdplay opens and closes my CD tray without any problems. Anyone else > > run into this problem before? > > Does it close when you use the cdcontrol(1) "close" command? No. I tried patching atapi-cd.c under the obvious places but it does no good. There are a bunch of code that doesn't get executed via multiple returns() under acd_eject() and commenting them out doesn't do what's expected. Also there's code that looks for CDIOCCLOSE but bypassing the check for an already opened device doesn't allow the try to close either. Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 15:55:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FD8153D3 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14403; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:55:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA02051; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905302255.PAA02051@vashon.polstra.com> To: pir@pir.net Subject: Re: ELF and a.out disagreements. In-Reply-To: <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net>, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > 2) a.out ld.so was dying on ELF libraries ... now, I know that > was in part my fault for pointing it at them, but surely this > is something thats going to keep happening ? How do you (as a user) > point ELF ld.so at extra libraries without making a.out ld.so > break ? The best way is with "/sbin/ldconfig -aout ..." and "/sbin/ldconfig -elf ...". John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 16: 2:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB75314DF1 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10oEZM-0000E6-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 May 1999 19:00:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:00:40 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELF and a.out disagreements. Message-ID: <19990530190040.B578@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net> <199905302255.PAA02051@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905302255.PAA02051@vashon.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 03:55:10PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra probably said: > Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > is something thats going to keep happening ? How do you (as a user) ^^^^^^^^^^^ > > point ELF ld.so at extra libraries without making a.out ld.so > > break ? > The best way is with "/sbin/ldconfig -aout ..." and "/sbin/ldconfig > -elf ...". Can't say I'd want my normal users to be messing with ldconfig ... P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 16:33: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fly.lglobus.ru (fly.lglobus.ru [195.34.224.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3814F21 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rover@fly.lglobus.ru) Received: (from rover@localhost) by fly.lglobus.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA35064; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:53:14 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rover) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:53:14 +0400 From: "Oleg V. Volkov" To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELF and a.out disagreements. Message-ID: <19990531035314.A29285@fly.lglobus.ru> Reply-To: fs_rover@lglobus.ru References: <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net> <199905302255.PAA02051@vashon.polstra.com> <19990530190040.B578@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990530190040.B578@pir.net>; from Peter Radcliffe on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 07:00:40PM -0400 Organization: -=/ SR 13 /=- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 07:00:40PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > John Polstra probably said: > > Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > is something thats going to keep happening ? How do you (as a user) > > > point ELF ld.so at extra libraries without making a.out ld.so > > > break ? > > The best way is with "/sbin/ldconfig -aout ..." and "/sbin/ldconfig > > -elf ...". > Can't say I'd want my normal users to be messing with ldconfig ... They don't have to - it's up to SysAdmin. -- Oleg V. Volkov aka Rover E-mail: rover@lglobus.ru UIN: 11506871 -=/ SR 13 /=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 17:19:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC65414D5B for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: Re: Pfizer VIAGRA(tm) - FOR AS LITTLE AS $6 PER DOSE To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:19:08 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" In-Reply-To: <199905301623.JAA09389@mail-gw6.pacbell.net> from "Medical Center Online" at May 30, 99 09:24:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2694 Message-Id: <19990531001920.AC65414D5B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use FreeBSD - My system stays up as long as I want it to! You might have more success selling this to the Windows NT folks :) > > http://www.smartsurf.net/clients/medicalcenter > > Some people may find this subject a bit offensive, but the truth of the matter is Viagra from Pfizer has truly helped many people and even saved marriages. > > The only problem in the past was that in order to get a prescription for this marriage-saving pill was to go through an EMBARASSING appointment with your doctor. I know, I had to tell a strange nurse why I wanted to see the doctor - it wasn't one of the most comfortable phone calls :-) > > So if you are one of the many millions of Americans suffering from ED (erectile dysfunction) or you would just like to try Viagra to see if it will increase intimacy with your mate (it will) - here is an opportunity to order it discretely, privately and inexpensively right over the internet. > ------------------------------ > Need Viagra? > No Prescription? > No Problem... > > No appointments, no waiting rooms, no embarrassment. > Imagine -- your next order of Viagra is just a click away. > > MedCenter Online in association with KwikMed, Inc. is able to offer individuals afflicted with sexual dysfunction the ability to order Viagra online > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Genuine Pfizer Viagra(tm) > Can Be Legally Ordered Online For As Little As $6 Per Dose > (normally $10 per dose - You save $4 per dose) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > click on the link below for information on how you can > order Viagra(tm) for as little as $6 per dose: > > http://www.smartsurf.net/clients/medicalcenter > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > It has been estimated that up to 30 million American men suffer from sexual dysfunction (impotence). Until recently, sexual dysfunction has been effectively treated with injections, surgery, and other procedures, many of which are painful and embarrassing. In March 1998, the FDA announced that ViagraŪ a new drug from Pfizer, Inc., has been approved as treatment for male sexual dysfunction. > > MedCenter Online & KwikMed, Inc. is able to offer individuals afflicted with sexual dysfunction an evaluation for suitability to Viagra therapy. The evaluation is performed by qualified American physicians in a manner which is simple, secure, and without embarrassment. > > http://www.smartsurf.net/clients/medicalcenter > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 17:25: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ska.bsn (d135.syd2.zeta.org.au [203.26.9.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED41014E37 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from atrn@zeta.org.au) Received: (from andy@localhost) by ska.bsn (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01389 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:34:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from atrn) Message-Id: <199905310034.KAA01389@ska.bsn> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:34:54 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Newman Reply-To: atrn@zeta.org.au Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG EMACS is an error code, "Editor too large". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 17:49:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [205.236.147.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DF014DDD for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:49:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net ([205.236.147.18]:16146 "EHLO shattered.disturbed.net") by disturbed.net with ESMTP id ; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:49:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Perel To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com Cc: a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality , Tim Tsai , Alfred Perlstein , Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: <19990530105652.A73222@ontario.mooseriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 May 1999, Josef Grosch wrote: > EMACS == Eighty Meg And Constantly Swapping ;-) EMACS == EMACS Makes All Computers Slow :) This one is recursive! In fact, I don't think the whole largeness thing is as much of an issue today. We're not working with VAXen and the like - computing power is plentiful. The whole "emacs is too large" excuse is a bit of a cop out in my opinion. Emacs is still smaller than the closest offering from MS - Word! And by a large margin, too! Who said you can't word process in Emacs? For most purposes, HTML is formatting enough.. Now, if you still don't like emacs, fine, don't use it. That's your choice. > Josef "Give me emacs or give me death" Grosch Aye! Alex G. Perel -=- AP5081 alexp@iplink.net -=- (work) veers@disturbed.net -=- (play) Disturbed Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD == The Power to Serve -=- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 18:12:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB6A15035 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20475; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:12:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199905310112.SAA20475@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... In-Reply-To: from Dustin Lang at "May 29, 99 10:25:19 pm" To: dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca (Dustin Lang) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:12:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Dustin Lang wrote: > I have just one question, but it's not specific to FreeBSD or even > BSD. Why on earth do people use vi? I'm not trying to start a flame > war or anything, but it's just so unfriendly. Doing the install was > simple and very friendly up until I did a 'chsh' and got vi! My > editor of choice is pico, the editor that looks like pine and has > instructions on the bottom. Sure, it's simple and doesn't have all > the advanced features you might want in an editor, but for doing a > 'chsh', it's sufficient! Of course, that's just me... Well, it's all those "advanced features" that make folks use vi. Like, I word-wrapped your above paragraph, preserving the '> ' along the left edge by typing "!}fill -d". I find the thing most repugnant about windoz is the stupid editor that is embedded in every application. An editor where you have to remove your hands from the keyboard to reposition the cursor is just plain broken. The two widely used UNIX editors, vi and emacs, reward a little practice with great productivity. Not unlike UNIX itself... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 18:24:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D63514BCF for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:24:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10oGod-0000yS-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:24:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:24:34 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ELF and a.out disagreements. Message-ID: <19990530212434.A3728@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <19990530115504.C21243@pir.net> <199905302255.PAA02051@vashon.polstra.com> <19990530190040.B578@pir.net> <19990531035314.A29285@fly.lglobus.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990531035314.A29285@fly.lglobus.ru>; from Oleg V. Volkov on Mon, May 31, 1999 at 03:53:14AM +0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Oleg V. Volkov" probably said: > On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 07:00:40PM -0400, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > > > is something thats going to keep happening ? How do you (as a user) > > > > point ELF ld.so at extra libraries without making a.out ld.so > > > > break ? > > Can't say I'd want my normal users to be messing with ldconfig ... > > They don't have to - it's up to SysAdmin. *sigh* I specified quite deliberately "as a user" because thats what I wanted to know, how to do this without breaking things, as a user. I ask because not everything on a system is done by a sysadmin, and if a _normal_ _user_ wants to use a program that requires extra dynamic libraries the obvious way to do this is via LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but if this clashes with existing libraries lots of things can fail to run. To me, that is broken. Clearer ? P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 20:50:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F5015123 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:50:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca) Received: from netinfo3.ubc.ca ([137.82.27.47] ident=dustinl) by mail.unixg.ubc.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10oJ5d-00059I-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:50:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:50:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Lang X-Sender: dustinl@netinfo3.ubc.ca To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ramblings (aka, Editor Holy Wars) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, When composing my original message I knew I shouldn't have even mentioned editors. I've received lots of messages and I've also done some reading about vi. I must say, I have quite a bit more respect for vi and a little bit of perspective of where it fits in the grand scheme of editors. Thanks to everybody for setting me straight. Personally, I think the editor holy wars are just one indicator of one of the things I love about Unix - there are often many ways of doing things. I also believe in using a tool suitable to the job at hand. Use what works and what makes you happy. Just be glad that choices exist in our world, unlike the world owned by some company whose name I can't seem to remember... Just my 0.02... dstn. ---------------------------------------------------- -- Dustin Lang, dustinl@interchange.ubc.ca -- (java developer, unix guy, freak with rainbow hair) User, n.: a particularly slow and unreliable input/ output device that is attached by default to the standard input and output streams. (stolen from a Gamelan article, author unknown) ---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 30 23:31:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B3E114BF3 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 23:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 4135 invoked by uid 100); 31 May 1999 06:31:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 May 1999 06:31:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:31:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Recent TCP changes in 3.2 vs ucspi-tcp? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just upgraded from a pre-3.2 STABLE to a source pull from last night. Email quit working - not a good thing. I believe the problem is related to breaking the tcpserver program in the ucspi-tcp package, but I'm not positive. Could someone who knows what more about the recent tcp changes check on this one, and let us know? Otherwise, it's something to keep in mind if you're going to upgrade across those changes. Thanx, ; Mon, 31 May 1999 00:34:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id RAA24659; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:04:08 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA26062; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:05:08 +0930 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:05:08 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Thomas Seidmann Cc: Stan Brown , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Seting Up Netscape with SOCKS firewall In-Reply-To: <374FC8E4.998FF24F@simultan.ch> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 May 1999, Thomas Seidmann wrote: > Did you set up the SOCKS host in Netscape identically on both machies? > Also, what is the named configuration in FreeBSD on the machine? If > there is no named running, is your resolv.conf OK? And last one: do > other socksified programms (sftp, stelnet) work as expected? You mean rftp and rtelnet - they aren't necessarily installed on his machine, though, unless he's installed and configured the socks5 port. Netscape doesn't require this for its socks support..it would be a useful diagnostic, though. Kris ---- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 0:42:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from SIMULTAN.CH (eunet-gw.simultan.ch [194.191.191.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8DD14CA2 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 00:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Received: from simultan.ch (wsaltis-053.SIMULTAN.CH [192.92.128.53]) by SIMULTAN.CH (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA90276 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 09:42:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tseidmann@simultan.ch) Message-ID: <37523D53.51DA0AC@simultan.ch> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:42:11 +0200 From: Thomas Seidmann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: Seting Up Netscape with SOCKS firewall References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sat, 29 May 1999, Thomas Seidmann wrote: > > > Did you set up the SOCKS host in Netscape identically on both machies? > > Also, what is the named configuration in FreeBSD on the machine? If > > there is no named running, is your resolv.conf OK? And last one: do > > other socksified programms (sftp, stelnet) work as expected? > > You mean rftp and rtelnet - they aren't necessarily installed on his machine, > though, unless he's installed and configured the socks5 port. Netscape doesn't > require this for its socks support..it would be a useful diagnostic, though. You're right with the names, sorry. And yes, I meant it for diagnostic purposes. Regards, Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 1:33: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paert.tse-online.de (paert.tse-online.de [194.97.69.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A12A15057 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ab@paert.tse-online.de) Received: (qmail 3104 invoked by uid 1000); 31 May 1999 08:31:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:31:09 +0200 From: Andreas Braukmann To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990531103107.C2864@paert.tse-online.de> References: <19990530022036.A10524@futuresouth.com> <19990530105652.A73222@ontario.mooseriver.com> <004f01beaad4$9b3234a0$06c3fe90@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <004f01beaad4$9b3234a0$06c3fe90@cisco.com>; from Justin Wolf on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 12:42:22PM -0700 Organization: TSE TeleService GmbH Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, ... a few short remarks on this topic. I'm an vi-addict since my very first contact with its 'almighty' paradigma of combining 'objects', 'movements' and 'operations'. That's editing ... (I was even one of the guys who buyed the MKS Toolkit for MS-DOS; ...) On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 12:42:22PM -0700, Justin Wolf wrote: > edit email messages for pine, it doesn't really need to be all-powerful). > At first, vi seemed unwieldly... far too many key presses, why aren't there > menus, and where the hell is the online-help? [...] > of power. Now if only it had column cut & paste... You really should have a look at 'vim' (/usr/ports/editors/vim5/). It fullfills all your above mentioned wishes (and more). > I tried EMacs, even xemacs... I'd have to spend a lot more time reading me too. > documentation and fiddling about just to figure out how to exit to > application (programs of this size are no longer mere 'programs' - they're > applications). Most of the power of emacs is lost on me... my brain is not > big enough to grasp the concept. I've heard of people who actually use > emacs as their command-line shell. For a short period of time (from '92 to '94) I've used XEmacs for the larger editing tasks (e.g. a whole lot of C++ and LaTeX editing). ... but ... I've used (naturally) the viper-mode (an really nice vi-emulation package for this operation system called 'emacs'). [ 'Emacs' is the better operating system, ... but Unix has the better editor ;)) - vi ] > I used to edit web pages with notepad.exe... now I use vi. I'm much But now, as there are vi-like editors with all the features of a real editor (macro-language, syntax-highlighting, language-sensitive auto-indenting etc.), I've even deleted the emacs installation from my machines ... > happier. (I still use pine though...) ... give 'mutt' a try and use 'vim' as your mail-editor ;) -Andreas -- : TSE TeleService GmbH : Gsf: Arne Reuter : : : Hovestrasse 14 : Andreas Braukmann : We do it with : : D-48351 Everswinkel : HRB: 1430, AG WAF : FreeBSD/SMP : :--------------------------------------------------------------------: : Anti-Spam Petition: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ : : PGP-Key: http://www.tse-online.de/~ab/public-key : : Key fingerprint: 12 13 EF BC 22 DD F4 B6 3C 25 C9 06 DC D3 45 9B : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 1:51:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7131015095 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:ATzcmgS0LxxwEGdRuSNZZ1P/BgOkYxcf@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id RAA22458; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:51:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id RAA07008; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:55:21 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199905310855.RAA07008@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: "William Woods" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: FW: ps/2 mouse problems....... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 May 1999 17:33:43 MST." <000101beaa34$12812f30$244b93cd@william> References: <000101beaa34$12812f30$244b93cd@william> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:55:15 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >After resuming from a suspend on a Toshiba Satellite 110CT mu ps/2 mouse was >dead. I saw this message on the console... > >Warning: APM hook "PS/2 mouse" failed > >ideas? You have the following options in your kernel configuration file. options PSM_HOOKAPM options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND Some laptop systems require these for proper operations, but others don't. These options may even be harmful on some systems. (That's why they are not standard features of the psm driver.) Please remove the options from the configuration file and see if you still have the problem. Read the man page for psm(4) for more explanation. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 2: 6:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8BF14C2B for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 02:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chewbury.gubbins@nelefa.org) Received: from default (tnt-6-232.easynet.co.uk [195.40.201.232]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E91FD919; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:05:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006001beab44$a6c35ea0$e8c928c3@default> From: "Sir Chewbury Gubbins" To: "Alex Perel" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:03:34 +0100 Organization: Nelefa Frotters Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > EMACS == Eighty Meg And Constantly Swapping ;-) Really, folks, this *whole tired thing* is repeated for your viewing pleasure *at least* once a month on any of the UNIX newsgroups you care to mention. Can we keep it there? CG -- Sir Chewbury Gubbins, Knight of the Wholly Gnarly Widget http://www.nelefa.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 3:46:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E12114C8C; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:46:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA01913; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:46:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had some really strange problems with an Adaptec 2940UW2 controller and a dual CPU system. It looked like an interference problem with the noise of the high speed CPUs somehow getting back into the cable. After re-routing the cables away from both CPUs things worked better, but eventually I had to dump the 2940UW2 for a 2940UW which worked perfectly in the machine. I did try dropping the speed of the UW2 card before swapping, no help. I'm guessing that disabling the SMP code might be shutting down the CPU causing the trouble. Try replacing the cables, re-routing cables and or a non UW2 controller. Cliff On Fri, 28 May 1999, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, > and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. > dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The > errors we are getting are as follows: > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > SEQADDR == > 0x8 > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c > ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > > Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get > SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. > Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a > termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an > early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. > > Joe Clarke > > > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 5:35: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.mel.comcen.com.au (smtp.mel.comcen.com.au [203.23.237.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EC0152EE for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 05:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saddas@bigfoot.com) Received: from bigfoot.com (modem039.ramoth.comcen.com.au [203.23.238.231]) by smtp.mel.comcen.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04271 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:34:23 +1000 Message-ID: <37528383.7D7B14D1@bigfoot.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:41:39 +1000 From: SaddaS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMP and ports problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all...... This is the 1st time I post message to the mailing list..hope I didn't mess up anything ;-) I've got a problem with SMP and making ports. I can compile all ports without problems but once I recompile my kernel with SMP option on make (cc) will core dump on my box :( I need to issue make dozen of times to make a complete compile. Any one has the similar problem? Thanks for helping....... Regards, Sad ps. I'm running 3.2 stable with dual P2. This problem starts from 3.0 release :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 7:50:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waterwall.inec.ru (INEC.network.mtmc.ru [194.247.151.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A4715487 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsw@inec.ru) Received: from PENTAGRAM (hardcore.inec.ru [194.247.151.9]) by waterwall.inec.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16834 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:50:32 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilya Balashov" To: Subject: ipfilter Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:52:47 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i use freebsd 3.2-stable... and i found, that ipfilter code in kernel is really old and outdated... for example: from /usr/src/netinet/ip_proxy.c "@(#)$Id: ip_proxy.c,v 1.3 1998/06/20 18:37:50 peter Exp $" from current ipfilter 3.2.10 "@(#)$Id: ip_proxy.c,v 2.0.2.11.2.15 1998/11/22 01:50:29 darrenr Exp $" who can integrate new ipfilter code in freebsd source tree ??? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 10:23:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6F314E79 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-253.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.253]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA30432 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:23:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (nospam.hiwaay.net [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00532 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:22:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199905311722.MAA00532@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Can't open /dev/rfd0: Device not configured In-reply-to: Message from Kent Stewart of "Mon, 24 May 1999 14:05:32 PDT." <3749BF1C.A72C5612@3-cities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:22:57 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > David Kelly wrote: > > > > Upgraded from 3.1-stable to 3.2-stable this weekend using "make world". > > Then needed to write a DOS floppy and found mtools failed: When all else failed, purchase a "new" floppy drive for $12.95 at a local shop. That cured the problem. When devices are this cheap it shouldn't be surprising this is my 3rd hardly-used floppy drive in 4 years. The hardly-used 4x Sony ATAPI CDROM still works. Its audio quality thru the headphone jack is poor, but always has been. Put a 300W PS in when I upgraded the MB to a PPro. Case is stuffed. Has 4 fans (CPU, PS, extra on the case, extra flopping inside directed at my HD.) Am pleased the case screws haven't stripped. The screw holes have stripped on a system I bought in 1992. *That* system is on its 2nd 3.5" floppy, 2nd MB, and 2nd PS, all due to failures. Its 5-1/4 floppy is doing fine. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 14:33:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abe.hymarc.com (homer.hymarc.com [206.191.28.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C0814C49 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rleir@hymarc.com) Received: from moe.hymarc.com (moe.hymarc.com [89.0.0.5]) by abe.hymarc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA19173 for <@abe.hymarc.com:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:33:35 -0400 Received: from lisa.hymarc.com (lisa.hymarc.com [89.0.0.35]) by moe.hymarc.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA13456 for <@moe.hymarc.com:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:33:22 -0400 Received: from hymarc.com (localhost.hymarc.com [127.0.0.1]) by lisa.hymarc.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id RAA86680 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37530020.7D736662@hymarc.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:33:20 -0400 From: Rick Leir Organization: Hymarc 3D Vision Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5C-SGI [en] (X11; U; IRIX64 6.5 IP30) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: proposed article for ;login References: <37528383.7D7B14D1@bigfoot.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C083CCA8241D003E5711A2BC" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C083CCA8241D003E5711A2BC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, Here is a proposed article for ;login on tracking FreeBSD Stable. http://www.igs.net/~rleir/track_stable.html My intent is to help a larger user community to get production installations up and stable. What should I add to the article? Could someone who is good at tech writing please review it? cheers -- Rick -- Rick Leir, Hymarc 3D Vision Systems (613) 727 1584 x214 Fast, precise laser scanners. http://www.hymarc.com/ --------------C083CCA8241D003E5711A2BC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rleir.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Rick Leir Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rleir.vcf" begin:vcard n:Leir;Rick x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Hymarc 3D Vision Systems adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rleir@hymarc.com title:Software Designer x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Rick Leir end:vcard --------------C083CCA8241D003E5711A2BC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 15:29:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A4B1553A for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:29:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from techie@tantivy.stanford.edu) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA38538 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:29:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <199905312229.PAA38538@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: strange 3.2 breakage. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sources cvsuped late last night (5/30/99).. woke up this morning to find that make world died during the install phase.. ===> bin/rmdir install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rmdir /bin install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rmdir.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> bin/sh install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin install: /bin/sh: Text file busy *** Error code 71 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. You have new mail. root-tantivy-[6:30am-129]#t> make world /bin/sh: not found *** Error code 1 Stop. root-tantivy-[3:20pm-130]#t> -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 9792, Stanford, Ca 94309-9792 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 16: 8:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE85A14BB8 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29481; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:30:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:30:13 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Bob Vaughan Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange 3.2 breakage. In-Reply-To: <199905312229.PAA38538@tantivy.stanford.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 May 1999, Bob Vaughan wrote: > > sources cvsuped late last night (5/30/99).. woke up this morning to find > that make world died during the install phase.. > > ===> bin/rmdir > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 rmdir /bin > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 rmdir.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 > ===> bin/sh > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 sh /bin > install: /bin/sh: Text file busy > *** Error code 71 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > You have new mail. > root-tantivy-[6:30am-129]#t> make world > /bin/sh: not found > *** Error code 1 I'm quite sure what happened was that you didn't have enough space available on your / partition to make a temporary copy of "sh" on it and have "install" rename() the new sh over the old one. It probably then tried to overwrite the /bin/sh and failed, and for some broken reason decided to then delete /bin/sh! This is really icky behavior imo. If you are running softupdates on your / partition, I suggest you turn them off while installing world, this will prevent you from running out of disk space, because softupdates doesn't immediatly free blocks from deleted files you can get "out of space" errors, which makes "install" attempt to overwrite. If you are not running softupdates on /, I seriously suggest you try to clear some space. try locating "sh" in the compile tree and manually putting it in /bin, then try this: mount -o sync -u / cd /usr/src ; make reinstall when done: mount -u / good luck, -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 16:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uven.ru (uven.ru [62.76.35.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67DB14BF1 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: from ns.ulstu.ru (root@ns.ulstu.ru [62.76.34.36]) by uven.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA22142 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:13:03 +0400 (MSD) Received: from hq.spc.high ([195.151.42.233]) by ns.ulstu.ru (8.8.5-MVC-230198/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA20722 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:12:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by hq.spc.high (8.9.3/8.8.8) id DAA26933 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:09:36 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad) From: Vlad Skvortsov Message-Id: <199905312309.DAA26933@hq.spc.high> Subject: ldconfig -aout doesn't seem to work To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:09:33 +0400 (MSD) Reply-To: vss@ulstu.ru X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I have just upgraded from 2.2-STABLE to 3.2-STABLE with make aout-to-elf... After hacking some rc files I ve put it to work but found that I cannot load X. The reason is: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXmu.so.6.0" This library does exists in /usr/X11R6/lib/aout, but ldconfig doesn't seem to update hints file even after ldconfig -m -aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout. Running ldconfig -r -aout gives the following: /var/run/ld.so.hints: search directories: /usr/lib/aout:/ 0:-lalias.2.5 => /usr/lib/aout/libalias.so.2.5 1:-lc.3.1 => /usr/lib/aout/libc.so.3.1 And nothing else :-( -- Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru ps: By the way I could not found any web guide to upgrade process ... Did I miss it ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 17:49:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9ED314DDE for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id KAA30752; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:19:04 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA23999; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:20:06 +0930 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:20:01 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Ilya Balashov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfilter In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 May 1999, Ilya Balashov wrote: > from /usr/src/netinet/ip_proxy.c > "@(#)$Id: ip_proxy.c,v 1.3 1998/06/20 18:37:50 peter Exp $" > from current ipfilter 3.2.10 > "@(#)$Id: ip_proxy.c,v 2.0.2.11.2.15 1998/11/22 01:50:29 darrenr Exp $" > > who can integrate new ipfilter code in freebsd source tree ??? Doesn't the author, Darren Reed, have commit privileges for this purpose? Kris, who just realised he's not listed in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/staff-committers.html for some reason. I thought I did that :) ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 17:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.stsi.net (atlas.stsi.net [208.236.212.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB0114C34 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rws@stsi.net) Received: from localhost (rws@localhost) by atlas.stsi.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id UAA30765; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:53:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: atlas.stsi.net: rws owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:53:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Schlotterbeck X-Sender: rws@atlas To: vss@ulstu.ru Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig -aout doesn't seem to work In-Reply-To: <199905312309.DAA26933@hq.spc.high> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rebuilding XFree86 as ELF should fix it. I had the same problem, but I assumed aout libs wouldnt play nice with elf ones. When it asks to build aout compat libraries (if using ports for XFree86 build) I'd say yes, to prevent more little problems like this. (Netscape broke if I didn't) On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Vlad Skvortsov wrote: > Hello. > > I have just upgraded from 2.2-STABLE to 3.2-STABLE with make > aout-to-elf... After hacking some rc files I ve put it to work but > found that I cannot load X. The reason is: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXmu.so.6.0" > > This library does exists in /usr/X11R6/lib/aout, but ldconfig > doesn't seem to update hints file even after ldconfig -m -aout > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout. Running ldconfig -r -aout gives the following: > > /var/run/ld.so.hints: > search directories: /usr/lib/aout:/ > 0:-lalias.2.5 => /usr/lib/aout/libalias.so.2.5 > 1:-lc.3.1 => /usr/lib/aout/libc.so.3.1 > > And nothing else :-( > > -- > Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru > > ps: By the way I could not found any web guide to upgrade process ... Did I > miss it ? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 19:51: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.transfar.com (unknown [202.103.100.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C01114BE2; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:49:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phj@www.transfar.com) Received: from mail.transfar.com ([202.103.100.243]) by www.transfar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA3513; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:46:06 +0900 Message-ID: <3753BBD0.EB7D82A@mail.transfar.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:54:09 +0000 From: Peng HaiJie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: Joe@FreeBSD.ORG, \@FreeBSD.ORG, "Marcus\" Clarke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG"@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP and SCSI problems in 3.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not try to plug it into other slot? I had the same problem before,but it disappeared after I plug the SCSI card into other slot. P.H.J. Cliff Skolnick wrote: > I had some really strange problems with an Adaptec 2940UW2 controller and a > dual CPU system. It looked like an interference problem with the noise of > the high speed CPUs somehow getting back into the cable. After re-routing > the cables away from both CPUs things worked better, but eventually I had to > dump the 2940UW2 for a 2940UW which worked perfectly in the machine. I did > try dropping the speed of the UW2 card before swapping, no help. > > I'm guessing that disabling the SMP code might be shutting down the CPU > causing the trouble. Try replacing the cables, re-routing cables and or a > non UW2 controller. > > Cliff > > On Fri, 28 May 1999, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote: > > > Recently, we installed 3.2-RELEASE on our primary Computer Science server, > > and began to see some severe errors when trying to do intensive (i.e. > > dump/restore) disk operations to any of our SCSI-attached disks. The > > errors we are getting are as follows: > > > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SCB 0x29 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, > > SEQADDR == > > 0x8 > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Queuing a BDR SCB > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Bus Device Reset Message Sent > > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): no longer in timeout, status = 34c > > ahc0: Bus Devices Reset on A:0. 3 SCBs aborted > > > > Disabling SMP seems to clear up some of this, but we were hoping to get > > SMP and SCSI working together. Our SCSI card is an Adaptec 2940UW2. > > Attached is the kernel config file in use. If this seems like a > > termination problem, we're doubting it since we had this working with an > > early version of 3.0-SNAP with CAM. > > > > Joe Clarke > > > > > > > > -- > Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain > Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty > cliff@steam.com | nor safety." > http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 20: 9:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bcgrizzly.com (bcgrizzly.com [207.34.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ADF414D21 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forger@bcgrizzly.com) Received: (qmail 7226 invoked from network); 1 Jun 1999 03:04:13 -0000 Received: from bcgrizzly.com (forger@207.34.136.10) by bcgrizzly.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 1999 03:04:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:04:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Brook Miles To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Keeping custom changes during a cvsup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can somebody point me in the right direction for maintaining custom changes made to the source tree while still keeping up to date with -stable or whatever branch you're following? For example the fix for PR bin/11860 consists of adding a line of code to inetd.c, but cvsup'ing again clobbers the change. Thanks. +--- | Brook Miles | A spec of cosmic dust... with attitude. +-------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 20:20: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.clark.net [168.143.10.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B1814CB5 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from mumps.pfcs.com [192.52.69.11] (HELO mumps.pfcs.com) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) via ESMTP id for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brown.pfcs.com [192.52.69.44] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by mumps.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] (HELO brown.pfcs.com) by brown.pfcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) via ESMTP id for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:19:45 GMT X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: NFS in FreeBSD-3-STABLE? X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:19:45 -0400 Message-ID: <18905.928207185@brown.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've done some digging, but obviously not enough to find the answers to the following questions. - Did the NFS patches make it in to 3.2-STABLE? - How reliable is NFS in 3.2-STABLE these days? Thanks... H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 20:41:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [209.133.28.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D2114FF9 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davids@webmaster.com) Received: from whenever ([209.133.29.2]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:40:38 -0700 From: "David Schwartz" To: Subject: Reboot during make world Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:40:37 -0700 Message-ID: <000101beabe0$83403600$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This type of crash is almost always flaky memory or an overheating processor, but this machine has been reliable in the past. It's running 3.2-STABLE. I recompiled the kernel and rebooted a few hours today. Then, just now, I went to do a 'make world', and it just rebooted. Here's the last thing left on my telnet session: --------------- cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/ src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -D DEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-f reebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr /src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/convert.c -o convert.o cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/ src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -D DEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.1\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-f reebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr /src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c -o cse.o {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:4057: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction {standard input}:4057: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.l762' {standard input}:5110: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction {standard input}:5110: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.l914' cc: {standard input}:7616: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction {standard input}:7616: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `%'. Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. vermithrax# cpp: output pipe has been closed ---------------- I realize that this is not enough information to track down a problem that is most likely just hardware. But I'm posting this in case it means anything to anyone. If it repeats itself, I'll try to get some debug info. DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 21: 1: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EB214F0A for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id OAA01562; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd001560; Tue Jun 1 04:00:51 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10509; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:51 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199906010400.OAA10509@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: Brook Miles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping custom changes during a cvsup In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 31 May 1999 20:04:13 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:00:51 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Use CVSup to maintain a local copy of the CVS repository, then use cvs to maintain the /usr/src tree. cvs is much cleverer about keeping around local changes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 21:18:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFD21558E for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au) Received: from bragg (bragg [129.127.36.34]) by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/UofA-1.5) with SMTP id NAA32387; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:48:19 +0930 (CST) Received: from localhost by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA18567; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:49:21 +0930 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:49:19 +0930 (CST) From: Kris Kennaway X-Sender: kkennawa@bragg To: Brook Miles Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keeping custom changes during a cvsup In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 May 1999, Brook Miles wrote: > Can somebody point me in the right direction for maintaining custom > changes made to the source tree while still keeping up to date with > -stable or whatever branch you're following? > > For example the fix for PR bin/11860 consists of adding a line of code to > inetd.c, but cvsup'ing again clobbers the change. With cvsup you're basicalkly limited to saying "don't touch these files at all" (check the manpages for how to do this, I think they're called "refuse files"). DOing it this way means that if there are any "official" changes to the file then it will not be merged into yours - you have to take note and apply the patch yourself The better way is to use cvsup to maintain a local copy of the source CVS repository on your machine, and then use cvs to update from there. cvs is much smarter about merging revisions onto changed files, the only downside being that it's slower to update your source tree, and the CVS repository is quite large (>400MB, I think). Kris > +--- > | Brook Miles > | A spec of cosmic dust... with attitude. > +-------------------------------------- ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 22:20:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865A415622; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07234; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:20:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: William Woods Cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: FW: ps/2 mouse problems....... In-Reply-To: <000101beaa34$12812f30$244b93cd@william> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 May 1999, William Woods wrote: > > After resuming from a suspend on a Toshiba Satellite 110CT mu ps/2 mouse was > dead. I saw this message on the console... > > Warning: APM hook "PS/2 mouse" failed > > ideas? Don't worry about it. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 22:59:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polio.ecst.csuchico.edu (polio.ecst.csuchico.edu [132.241.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C835114F6D for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:59:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: (qmail 15624 invoked by uid 21024); 31 May 1999 22:59:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: David Schwartz Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reboot during make world In-Reply-To: <000101beabe0$83403600$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > {standard input}:7616: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character > is `%'. > Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > This is probably a major clue, if you search the net for the Signal 11 Faq, there are 3 probable causes to a signal 11 1: memory error 2: compiler bug 3: if it rebooted as well it's highly likely a memory error. Did you over clock the processor? that tends to cause memory errors. Have the simms tested, most of the big computer stores have simm testers and will usually test them for free for you. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 31 23: 7:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3896D15625 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01624; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:07:46 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11777; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:07:45 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199906010607.IAA11777@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Brook Miles Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping custom changes during a cvsup Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:07:44 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Can somebody point me in the right direction for maintaining custom > changes made to the source tree while still keeping up to date with > -stable or whatever branch you're following? > > For example the fix for PR bin/11860 consists of adding a line of code to > inetd.c, but cvsup'ing again clobbers the change. Use CVS. Cvsup the CVS repository, and "cvs update" your sources. The downside is a load of needed extra disk space. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 0:42:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763121523E for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24447; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:42:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:42:27 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990601024227.A20944@futuresouth.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Alfred Perlstein on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:07:06AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:07:06AM -0500, a little birdie told me that Alfred Perlstein remarked > > I dislike ee and I hate pico. Pico is so featureless it's shameful, > for instance can you: Use a tabstop other than 8 char? Sure; all it requires is a set of source hacks to change all the hard-coded 8-char specs to 4-char. Command-line flag? Nope. Config file? I laugh. Environmental var? termcap var? Well, back to vi I go... EMACS: The operating system cleverly disguised as a text editor. -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller MF4839 http://www.over-yonder.net/ | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 0:42:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA061523E for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10685; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:42:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05441; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:42:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA07904; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:42:34 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:42:33 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: David Schwartz Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboot during make world Message-ID: <19990601104233.A7543@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr References: <000101beabe0$83403600$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000101beabe0$83403600$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to>; from David Schwartz on Mon, May 31, 1999 at 08:40:37PM -0700 X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@tupac.com X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 08:40:37PM -0700, David Schwartz wrote: > This type of crash is almost always flaky memory or an overheating > processor, but this machine has been reliable in the past. It's running > 3.2-STABLE. I recompiled the kernel and rebooted a few hours today. Then, > just now, I went to do a 'make world', and it just rebooted. > > Here's the last thing left on my telnet session: [snip] With the exception of the last build that I did, I always had this problem (which is definately HW, since BeOS refused to install on the very same HW). Try to boot the system in single user mode and make world again. This worked for me. [ Apart from this, the very same HW has never crashed for any reason ] -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 0:55:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E162A15373 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA22311; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:17:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 03:17:44 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: David Schwartz Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboot during make world In-Reply-To: <000101beabe0$83403600$021d85d1@whenever.youwant.to> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 31 May 1999, David Schwartz wrote: > > This type of crash is almost always flaky memory or an overheating > processor, but this machine has been reliable in the past. It's running > 3.2-STABLE. I recompiled the kernel and rebooted a few hours today. Then, > just now, I went to do a 'make world', and it just rebooted. > > Here's the last thing left on my telnet session: > > --------------- > [snip] > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc/cse.c -o cse.o > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:4057: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > {standard input}:4057: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.l762' > {standard input}:5110: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > {standard input}:5110: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.l914' > cc: {standard input}:7616: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > {standard input}:7616: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character > is `%'. > Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > [snip] > ---------------- > > I realize that this is not enough information to track down a problem that > is most likely just hardware. But I'm posting this in case it means anything > to anyone. If it repeats itself, I'll try to get some debug info. 99.999999% sure you have a heating problem. heating problems can spontaniously develop, *pointing at p120 who's fan failed one day* -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 1:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail (unknown [203.69.75.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E2615535 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samon@mail) Received: (from samon@localhost) by mail (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA18711 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:24:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:24:53 +0800 From: samon@mail.FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <199906010824.QAA18711@mail> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ―Ðąz°ČĨēĪWšôĻúŪøđqĪlķlĨóīĢŋôķĮĐIŠšģ]Đw Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ŋË·RŠšĨÎĪáązĶn: ĨŅĐóązīŋĪĩĻÏĨÎ alpha-call ŠšđqĪlķlĨóīĢŋôķĮĐI(email to pager) ē{ĶbÁöĩM§AĪwĻúŪø§AŠše-mail to pager, §Ú­ĖĪīĩMĶŽĻė§AŠš email to pager ―Ðąz°ČĨēĪWšôĻúŪø,ĨHļ`ŽŲšôļôļę·―. ĻúŪøŠššô§}ŽO: http://www.pager.com.tw/web/service/cancele2p.asp ­YĶģ°ÝÃD: ―ÐŧP§Ú­ĖÁpĩļ e2psos@mail.pager.com.tw ÁpĩØđqŦHšôļôŠA°ČēÕ,ŊŽ§AŦØąd§ÖžÖ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 6:31: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.visi.com (baal.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB40150F5 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 06:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (veldy@isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id IAA10872; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:27:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Thomas Veldhouse To: Harlan Stenn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS in FreeBSD-3-STABLE? In-Reply-To: <18905.928207185@brown.pfcs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know, but I am running 3.2-STABLE as of Friday and 3.1-19990430-SNAP on a different box. When I try to mount the 3.2 box via NFS (/usr/src and /usr/obj) I get a "RPC timeout" message on the 3.1 box. If I umount /usr/src and try to mount them again, I can't mount anything. If I reboot the 3.2 box, I am back to being able to mount one directory again. NFS is configured as it always has been, so I don't think that is the problem. The problem appears to be in the 3.2 box. All other network traffic is fine (de0 on 3.2 and ed0 on 3.1). The 3.1 box is a gateway/firewall for the rest of my network. /usr -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.0.3 I am logged in as root when I try to use NFS. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com On Mon, 31 May 1999, Harlan Stenn wrote: > I've done some digging, but obviously not enough to find the answers to the > following questions. > > - Did the NFS patches make it in to 3.2-STABLE? > > - How reliable is NFS in 3.2-STABLE these days? > > Thanks... > > H > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 6:48:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24F4156B9 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey (earl-grey [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78C27630A for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:48:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:48:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3.2-RELEASE and nfs not responding Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have two hosts that share directories via NFS. Host 1 has some directories from Host 2 and vice versa. Both are running 3.2-RELEASE (and previously ran 3.1 and 3.0) and from time to time, one server will complain about the other not responding. Jun 1 07:54:39 russian-caravan /kernel: nfs server \ earl-grey.cloud9.net:/home/users: not responding The other machine continues to be up and the mount point still works. Once in a while nfs will say that the host is alive again, but usually there will be several of the above error messages in a row with no mention of the condition fixing itself. The machines have Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B cards (or Asus P2B boards with the cards built-in) and are attached to each other on a Cisco Catalyst 2900XL 10/100 switch. They speak 100/full duplex to the switch. Currently -s,-i,-T,rw is being used to mount the directories, but the TCP transport has not really cleared up or helped the problem. Other NFS issues between 2.2.7 and 3.2 have been cleared up, but this is the most annoying (and only) problem that we've seen persist. I'm tempted to toss the Cisco and try a different switch or just a dumb hub, but I'm not entirely convinced it is the switch. Is there extra debugging that NFS can use when it runs into the condition described above? Like perhaps what exactly makes it think the other host is not responding? -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7: 6:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA80B156E7 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id PAA29575; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:04:03 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id QAA01183; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:01:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18249; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:49:30 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00588; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:53:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3753E732.BAE94CF5@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:59:15 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Veldhouse Cc: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS in FreeBSD-3-STABLE? References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------CA8695717747774D9A87CA18" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CA8695717747774D9A87CA18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Do you use NFS over TCP ? if yes, you should go back to NFS over UDP (via a mntudp option in /etc/fstab - man mount_nfs to see the exact wording of the options), as NFS v3 with TCP is still buggy in 3.x I'm using NFS v3 over UDP in my home network and so far, so good (this a very light-load network, though) TfH Thomas Veldhouse wrote: > > I don't know, but I am running 3.2-STABLE as of Friday and > 3.1-19990430-SNAP on a different box. When I try to mount the 3.2 box via > NFS (/usr/src and /usr/obj) I get a "RPC timeout" message on the 3.1 box. > If I umount /usr/src and try to mount them again, I can't mount anything. > If I reboot the 3.2 box, I am back to being able to mount one directory > again. NFS is configured as it always has been, so I don't think that is > the problem. The problem appears to be in the 3.2 box. All other network > traffic is fine (de0 on 3.2 and ed0 on 3.1). The 3.1 box is a > gateway/firewall for the rest of my network. > > /usr -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.0.3 > > I am logged in as root when I try to use NFS. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@visi.com > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > I've done some digging, but obviously not enough to find the answers to the > > following questions. > > > > - Did the NFS patches make it in to 3.2-STABLE? > > > > - How reliable is NFS in 3.2-STABLE these days? > > > > Thanks... > > > > H > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------CA8695717747774D9A87CA18 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------CA8695717747774D9A87CA18-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:19:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D00014EEF for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA49580 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:19:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01644 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:23:00 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199906011423.SAA01644@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Vinum brokes release in -stable? X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:22:59 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I'm trying to make release in -sTABLE, and it fails with cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DVINUMDEBUG -g -O -DKERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnes ted-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline - Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I/usr/obj/usr /src/sys/modules/vinum -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/@ -I/usr/obj/usr/src /tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:55: `nullreset' undeclared he re (not in a function) /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:55: initializer element for ` vinum_cdevsw.d_bogoreset' is not constant /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c: In function `vinumattach': /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:88: warning: implicit declara tion of function `cdevsw_add_generic' /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c: In function `vinum_modevent' : /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:239: `cdevsw' undeclared (fir st use in this function) /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:239: (Each undeclared identif ier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/../../dev/vinum/vinum.c:239: for each function it app ears in.) *** Error code 1 Any suggestions? BTW, I tried several times to build release for 3.2-STABLE, and got no success. With 2.2.X it was much smoother. Or I become dumb? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:21: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E453B14EB7 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:20:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id RAA41193; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:18:29 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:18:29 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dennis Ostrovsky Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: minor 3.1-S --> 3.2-S problem Message-ID: <19990601171829.A33926@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Dennis Ostrovsky , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dennis Ostrovsky on Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 09:56:01AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Redirected to -stable] On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 09:56:01AM -0400, Dennis Ostrovsky wrote: > I upgraded to 3.2-STABLE without any problems. I then decided that I would > keep the default rc.conf file in /etc/defaults as is, and use a customized > file (with all of the real info) in /etc/rc.conf. Well when I did this, I > basically could not start the system. After booting, it would hang for a > while, then say Out of file descriptors and drop me into the root shell > prompt, with nothing mounted except the root fs. > > It ocurred to me this morning to swap the rc.conf files, and presto, > everything worked like a dream. Is this normal behaviour? > Show me your problematic /etc/rc.conf (in private). > I thought the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file was supposed to be untouched. > Yes. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:22:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FF114ED1 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id PAA02739; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:19:52 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id QAA10686; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:17:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA20287; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:13:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01591; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:17:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3753ECC1.AD3A8860@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:22:57 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Drassinower Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE and nfs not responding References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A41EA668EF2298B73F5ED0E7" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A41EA668EF2298B73F5ED0E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, The last word I heard is that NFS over TCP is not reliable on the 3.x branch (there should be some messages in the archives of -Stable). There were fixes on the 4.x branch, but they are not back ported to 3.x (there have been too many changes inbetween). NFS over UDP should work OK, though. TfH Scott Drassinower wrote: > > We have two hosts that share directories via NFS. Host 1 has some > directories from Host 2 and vice versa. Both are running 3.2-RELEASE (and > previously ran 3.1 and 3.0) and from time to time, one server will > complain about the other not responding. > > Jun 1 07:54:39 russian-caravan /kernel: nfs server \ > earl-grey.cloud9.net:/home/users: not responding > > The other machine continues to be up and the mount point still works. > Once in a while nfs will say that the host is alive again, but usually > there will be several of the above error messages in a row with no mention > of the condition fixing itself. > > The machines have Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B cards (or Asus P2B boards > with the cards built-in) and are attached to each other on a Cisco > Catalyst 2900XL 10/100 switch. They speak 100/full duplex to the switch. > Currently -s,-i,-T,rw is being used to mount the directories, but the TCP > transport has not really cleared up or helped the problem. > > Other NFS issues between 2.2.7 and 3.2 have been cleared up, but this is > the most annoying (and only) problem that we've seen persist. I'm tempted > to toss the Cisco and try a different switch or just a dumb hub, but I'm > not entirely convinced it is the switch. > > Is there extra debugging that NFS can use when it runs into the condition > described above? Like perhaps what exactly makes it think the other host > is not responding? > > -- > Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net > Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY > +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------A41EA668EF2298B73F5ED0E7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------A41EA668EF2298B73F5ED0E7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:35:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC0E14ED1 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey (earl-grey [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88B37630E; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:34:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: Thierry Herbelot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-RELEASE and nfs not responding In-Reply-To: <3753ECC1.AD3A8860@telspace.alcatel.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The problem I described earlier occurs when using UDP as well. Not being able to obtain more information about what is causing the problem is more frustrating than being told something like, "oh, 4.x fixes that, you'll just have to upgrade/wait." -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Thierry Herbelot wrote: > Hello, > > The last word I heard is that NFS over TCP is not reliable on the 3.x > branch (there should be some messages in the archives of -Stable). There > were fixes on the 4.x branch, but they are not back ported to 3.x (there > have been too many changes inbetween). > > NFS over UDP should work OK, though. > > TfH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:49:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from monitor.satin.net (monitor.satin.net [194.88.65.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77972150F5 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:49:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon.griffiths@satin.net) Received: from satin.net (tyson.satin.net [194.88.65.253]) by monitor.satin.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA28754 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:49:16 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3753F29C.9969CD34@satin.net> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:47:56 +0100 From: Simon Griffiths Organization: SatinNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: X Windows Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C534FE418581CD9E8CE183E2" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C534FE418581CD9E8CE183E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Im trying my hardest to get my mouse working in the configuration section of x windows, but to no avail. My com port ttyd0 works fine as I tested it using minicom and a modem, but using all possible configuration in x's file it just wont work!! It isn't the mouse that works fine. Are there any other hidden files Im not aware of? Someone please suggest something, cause this is driving me maaaddddd!!!!! Cheers Simon --------------C534FE418581CD9E8CE183E2 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="simon.griffiths.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Simon Griffiths Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="simon.griffiths.vcf" begin:vcard n:Griffiths;Simon tel;fax:+44 (0) 1252 318709 tel;work:+44 (0) 1252 318707 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.satin.net org:SatinNet version:2.1 email;internet:simon.griffiths@satin.net adr;quoted-printable:;;Stableford House=0D=0ASebastopol Road;Aldershot;Hampshire;GU11 1SG;England fn:Simon Griffiths end:vcard --------------C534FE418581CD9E8CE183E2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 7:54:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFA415066 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20106; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:53:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08929; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:53:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199906011453.PAA08929@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Simon Griffiths Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: X Windows In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:47:56 BST." <3753F29C.9969CD34@satin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:53:07 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi > > Im trying my hardest to get my mouse working in the configuration > section of x windows, but to no avail. My com port ttyd0 works fine as > I tested it using minicom and a modem, but using all possible > configuration in x's file it just wont work!! It isn't the mouse that > works fine. Are there any other hidden files Im not aware of? Someone > please suggest something, cause this is driving me maaaddddd!!!!! > > Cheers > Simon If you're using moused, you need to use /dev/sysmouse - there's a bit in the FAQ about this. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 8:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E1D15085 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id QAA23125; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:07:54 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id RAA13135; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:05:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28567; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:57:10 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA02870; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:01:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3753F714.E66C7E82@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:07:00 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , stable Subject: Re: NFS in FreeBSD-3-STABLE? References: <000f01beac3a$7628d260$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------AAA42A4962E55B87E2FA3BD0" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AAA42A4962E55B87E2FA3BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC'd to -Stable Yes UDP should be slower / but NFS over TCP was advertised as buggy by a core member. The summary of the NFS thread was that only SUN has a really working NFS v3 over TCP (plus its licensees). TfH PS : I have set these options in /etc/fstab bg ,intr ,nfsv3, mntudp "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > > Actually, I am not sure. I do a command mount: > > mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/usr/src /usr/src > mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/usr/obj /usr/obj > > The order does not matter, but only the first attempt succeeds, until I > reboot the target machine (3.2-STABLE). > > I will look into the options for mount_nfs and set UDP as my option. I must > assume that TCP is the default. Isn't UDP a bit slower for this sort of > application? > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@visi.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thierry Herbelot > To: Thomas Veldhouse > Cc: Harlan Stenn ; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: NFS in FreeBSD-3-STABLE? > > >Hello, > > > >Do you use NFS over TCP ? if yes, you should go back to NFS over UDP > >(via a mntudp option in /etc/fstab - man mount_nfs to see the exact > >wording of the options), as NFS v3 with TCP is still buggy in 3.x > > > >I'm using NFS v3 over UDP in my home network and so far, so good (this a > >very light-load network, though) > > > > TfH > > > > > >Thomas Veldhouse wrote: > >> > >> I don't know, but I am running 3.2-STABLE as of Friday and > >> 3.1-19990430-SNAP on a different box. When I try to mount the 3.2 box > via > >> NFS (/usr/src and /usr/obj) I get a "RPC timeout" message on the 3.1 box. > >> If I umount /usr/src and try to mount them again, I can't mount anything. > >> If I reboot the 3.2 box, I am back to being able to mount one directory > >> again. NFS is configured as it always has been, so I don't think that is > >> the problem. The problem appears to be in the 3.2 box. All other > network > >> traffic is fine (de0 on 3.2 and ed0 on 3.1). The 3.1 box is a > >> gateway/firewall for the rest of my network. > >> > >> /usr -alldirs -maproot=0 192.168.0.3 > >> > >> I am logged in as root when I try to use NFS. > >> > >> Tom Veldhouse > >> veldy@visi.com > >> > >> On Mon, 31 May 1999, Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> > >> > I've done some digging, but obviously not enough to find the answers to > the > >> > following questions. > >> > > >> > - Did the NFS patches make it in to 3.2-STABLE? > >> > > >> > - How reliable is NFS in 3.2-STABLE these days? > >> > > >> > Thanks... > >> > > >> > H > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------AAA42A4962E55B87E2FA3BD0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------AAA42A4962E55B87E2FA3BD0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 8:41:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2456F157D9 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id IAA01685; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:40:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id IAA11027; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:40:04 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id LAA26351; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14163.65232.515714.363933@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:40:00 -0700 (MST) To: Simon Griffiths Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: X Windows In-Reply-To: <3753F29C.9969CD34@satin.net> References: <3753F29C.9969CD34@satin.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, June 1, Simon Griffiths wrote: ] > Hi > > Im trying my hardest to get my mouse working in the configuration > section of x windows, but to no avail. My com port ttyd0 works fine as > I tested it using minicom and a modem, but using all possible > configuration in x's file it just wont work!! It isn't the mouse that > works fine. Are there any other hidden files Im not aware of? Someone > please suggest something, cause this is driving me maaaddddd!!!!! Well, somebody suggested that if you're using "moused" to point to /dev/sysmouse. I recently installed X on a 3.1-RELEASE system (just the other night) and ran into the same sort of problems you're facing--which I'd seen in the past with a friend's computer. I have a Logitech MouseMan+ ps/2 mouse. It is auto-detected just fine on boot, I can run moused and "vidcontrol -m on" to get mouse stuff on the console just fine. However, when I ran the XF86Setup program, NOTHING I put in made it understand there was a mouse. I tried using SysMouse and /dev/sysmouse (as the X README says), then I stopped moused and tried using /dev/psm and my Logitech MouseMan, etc. All attempts failed. I could load the X server but when it got up and asked me if I wanted to save the config file ... of course I had no mouse and thus couldn't click the freakin' button. In desparation, I used the clunky xf86config ASCII configuration program and chugged through its questions. When I got done I edited this file and made sure I was pointing to /dev/sysmouse and using the SysMouse type protocol (since if memory serves, it didn't offer SysMouse and /dev/sysmouse as options to a mouse device ...). Then I fired up XF86Setup and used the previous config file as a starting point. The mouse WAS seen this time!!! (and then I was able to configure things with the GUI quite easily). So, perhaps you can do that--use the xf86config program to do all or part of the configuration--and make sure you're successfully running "moused" (by saying "vidcontrol -m on" and seeing if you can select-n-paste on the text console with your mouse). Does anyone know why XF86Setup chokes even when everything is correctly setup for it? -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 8:55:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2836215781 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id SAA65863; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:52:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:52:34 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Dennis Ostrovsky Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED: minor 3.1-S --> 3.2-S problem Message-ID: <19990601185234.B57165@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Dennis Ostrovsky , stable@freebsd.org References: <19990601171829.A33926@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Dennis Ostrovsky on Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 11:22:03AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 11:22:03AM -0400, Dennis Ostrovsky wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > Show me your problematic /etc/rc.conf (in private). > > Files attached. rc.conf is the active file, rc.conf.defaults is the > renamed default rc.conf file. Thanks much. > You misunderstood the concept. The concept is (cutted from rc.conf): +--------------------------------------------------------------------- | This is rc.conf - a file full of useful variables that you can set | to change the default startup behavior of your system. You should | not edit this file! Put any overrides into one of the ${rc_conf_files} | instead and you will be able to update these defaults later without | spamming your local configuration information. +--------------------------------------------------------------------- As I can see, you have just copied /etc/defaults/rc.conf over /etc/rc.conf, then edited some variables, and left the rest untouched. Now your /etc/rc.conf, apart from other, has the following lines: > #!/bin/sh > # > > # This is rc.conf - a file full of useful variables that you can set [...] > rc_conf_files="/etc/rc.conf /etc/rc.conf.local" [...] > for i in ${rc_conf_files}; do > if [ -f $i ]; then > . $i > fi > done So, you have put it in infinite loop. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 9:38:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pantheon-po02.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po02.its.yale.edu [130.132.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E396154EF for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from denis.ostrovsky@yale.edu) Received: from mercury.cis.yale.edu (do33@mercury.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.247]) by pantheon-po02.its.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03219 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (do33@localhost) by mercury.cis.yale.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07491 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:37:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mercury.cis.yale.edu: do33 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis Ostrovsky X-Sender: do33@mercury.cis.yale.edu To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SOLVED: minor 3.1-S --> 3.2-S problem In-Reply-To: <19990601185234.B57165@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > As I can see, you have just copied /etc/defaults/rc.conf over /etc/rc.conf, > then edited some variables, and left the rest untouched. > Now your /etc/rc.conf, apart from other, has the following lines: [snip] > So, you have put it in infinite loop. Right. :) Hence the out of file descriptors error. I've since removed that part from rc.conf and now everything is setup as it should be. Thanks very much. :) Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dennis Ostrovsky ** Department of Chemistry ** Yale University E-mail: den@master.chem.yale.edu WWW: http://pantheon.yale.edu/~do33 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 9:50:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prozac.lojik.net (cc1008482-a.union1.nj.home.com [24.3.164.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACFF157B0 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fifi@prozac.lojik.net) Received: (from fifi@localhost) by prozac.lojik.net (8.9.3/8.9.1a-NUTSAQZ) id MAA00630 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:50:19 -0400 From: Mike Sawicki To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Strange lockups in 3.2-STABLE Message-ID: <19990601125018.A502@HAX.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been having some problems with my recently updated 3.2-STABLE system. I had been running 3.1-RELEASE for over 2 months with no problems. I updated my system binaries and kernel last week, and since then I have noticed less stability on the machine. First of all, my ide controller seems to be issuing a lot more error messages like this one: wd1: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) wd1: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 wd0: interrupt timeout (status 58 error 0) wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 My machine is not completely scsi. I use cheap ide disks for backup and scratch space purposes. Until the upgrade, I would get the timeout errors only every once and a while, now they happen especially during bootup (fsck's and so on). Aside from that, the machine has locked up completely on 2 occasions in the last 24 hours. I get no console messages and no logs whatsoever explaining whats happening. I am running 3.2-STABLE now with SMP enabled. I used the same configuration file I used when I compiled the 3.1-REL kernel about 2 months ago, and the machine was genuinely more happy that way. The only change I made was adding ccd support to the new kernel, but I can't help think thats unrelated. Any ideas? Need more info? I switched to stable for a reason, stability! :) it's not cooperating. Thanks, -- [ Mike Sawicki < f i f i at HAX d.o.t org > *DIE SPAM BOTS!* ] [ UNIX Systems Administrator, bitWizard & Digital Audio Fiend ] [ HAX Engineering & Administration / Phone:<732.396.8653> ... ] [ url...http://www.HAX.ORG {/fifi for personal info} ........ ] --- "i am AN hacker." --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 12:16:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uven.ru (uven.ru [62.76.35.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70A9157E1 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: from ns.ulstu.ru (root@ns.ulstu.ru [62.76.34.36]) by uven.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17662 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:15:55 +0400 (MSD) Received: from hq.spc.high ([195.151.42.225]) by ns.ulstu.ru (8.8.5-MVC-230198/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA27359 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:15:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by hq.spc.high (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA03340 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:12:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad) From: Vlad Skvortsov Message-Id: <199906011912.XAA03340@hq.spc.high> Subject: Cron /usr/libexec/atrun (fwd) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:12:42 +0400 (MSD) Reply-To: vss@ulstu.ru X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- From daemon Tue Jun 1 23:10:01 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:10:00 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199906011910.XAA03267@hq.spc.high> From: root@hq.spc.high (Cron Daemon) To: root@hq.spc.high Subject: Cron /usr/libexec/atrun X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: X-Cron-Env: CRON in malloc(): warning: pointer to wrong page. ----- End of forwarded message from Cron Daemon ----- The thing appeared after upgrading 2.2-STABLE to 3.2-STABLE with make aout-to-elf. Suggestions ? -- Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 12:23: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3126E15392 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id MAA08506; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id MAA19038; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199906011918.MAA19038@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905272149.OAA22188@whistle.com> from "Doug Ambrisko" at May 27, 99 02:49:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From ambrisko@whistle.com Thu May 27 14:56:32 PDT 1999 > Ken Lui writes: > | Chipset Features Setup > | > | Auto Configuration Enabled > | AT Bus Clock CLK2/4 * cannot change * > | DRAM Timing Fast * changed to Normal * > | SDRAM CAS Latency Auto * 3 and 2 are also valid * > You might also want to fiddle with SDRAM CAS Latency. Changing SDRAM CAS Latency solved my problem. I haven't had a spontaneous reboot since changing SDRAM CAS Latency from Auto to 3, despite changing DRAM Timing from Fast to Normal. It most likely was caused by the PC100 SDRAM I purchased and since it may run well using CL2, the other non- PC100 SDRAM didn't like a faster CL timing value. Thanks to all for their input. Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 13: 3:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uven.ru (uven.ru [62.76.35.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79F14D55 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: from ns.ulstu.ru (root@ns.ulstu.ru [62.76.34.36]) by uven.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA20207; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:02:12 +0400 (MSD) Received: from hq.spc.high ([195.151.42.225]) by ns.ulstu.ru (8.8.5-MVC-230198/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA27524; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:01:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by hq.spc.high (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA08354; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:57:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad) From: Vlad Skvortsov Message-Id: <199906011957.XAA08354@hq.spc.high> Subject: Re: ldconfig -aout doesn't seem to work In-Reply-To: from "kip@lyris.com" at "May 31, 1999 4:28: 3 pm" To: kip@lyris.com Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:57:56 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: vss@ulstu.ru X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, the problem is solved. The reason is that old libaries were not actually moved to aout subdir during make aout-to-elf. Another question is why. > This won't fix your problem, but you should probably think about > rebuilding your X libraries so that you have elf versions of everything > you use regularly. > -Kip > > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Vlad Skvortsov wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > I have just upgraded from 2.2-STABLE to 3.2-STABLE with make > > aout-to-elf... After hacking some rc files I ve put it to work but > > found that I cannot load X. The reason is: > > > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXmu.so.6.0" > > > > This library does exists in /usr/X11R6/lib/aout, but ldconfig > > doesn't seem to update hints file even after ldconfig -m -aout > > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout. Running ldconfig -r -aout gives the following: > > > > /var/run/ld.so.hints: > > search directories: /usr/lib/aout:/ > > 0:-lalias.2.5 => /usr/lib/aout/libalias.so.2.5 > > 1:-lc.3.1 => /usr/lib/aout/libc.so.3.1 > > > > And nothing else :-( > > > > -- > > Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru > > > > ps: By the way I could not found any web guide to upgrade process ... Did I > > miss it ? > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 13:19: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6571539F for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by atlrel2.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id QAA25341; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id NAA20880; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199906012014.NAA20880@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: ambrisko@whistle.com (Doug Ambrisko) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199906011930.MAA53021@whistle.com> from "Doug Ambrisko" at Jun 1, 99 12:30:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Great to hear. This seems to be a common problem now. I had a couple > people do this and their machines have become stable. Seems like a lot > of marginal PC100 memory is out there. I was told the other stick of SDRAM was not PC100, but this is my first PC that uses SDRAM. Seems like the BIOS/hardware/architecture isn't very smart about mixing different grades of SDRAM. Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 16: 7:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E0414A0B for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from satomaui@maui.net) Received: from maui2 (U1-38.Kahului.Maui.Net [207.175.210.166]) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19995 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:07:11 -1000 (HST) From: "Sato & Associates, Inc" To: Subject: subscription Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:14:28 -1000 Message-ID: <01beac84$7f5526a0$2a1951c0@maui2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEAC30.ADA916A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEAC30.ADA916A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01BEAC30.ADA916A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BEAC30.ADA916A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe freebsd-stable shimko@maui.net subscribe cvs-all shimko@maui.net ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BEAC30.ADA916A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This seems to be a common problem now. I had a couple > > people do this and their machines have become stable. Seems like a lot > > of marginal PC100 memory is out there. > > I was told the other stick of SDRAM was not PC100, but this is my first > PC that uses SDRAM. Seems like the BIOS/hardware/architecture isn't very > smart about mixing different grades of SDRAM. The problem gets worse with the 440bx chipset. I have been told that for this chipset, you need 7/8ns PC-100 or CAS2. You will sometimes see memory separated for the bx machines. Kent > > Ken > -- > Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue > klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA > Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 > Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 18:16: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CE814DBD for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA232796156; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:15:56 -0400 Subject: Recomendations on Digiboard multiport cards? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 776 Message-Id: <19990602011600.F1CE814DBD@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am putting together a FreeBSD system to replace an existing vendor supplied SCO system. They are using an older non inteligent Digiboard multiport card. What Digiboard multi port serial cards are supporeted under FreeBSD STABLE? Any recomnedatiosn as to good ones, and maybe even a source to buy from? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 18:27:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BDE14DBD for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:U8CvtGAwTSfFiA85R+EC+r+T+i53KAWK@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id KAA29601; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:25:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id KAA06836; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:29:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199906020129.KAA06836@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: John Reynolds~ Cc: Simon Griffiths , freebsd , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X Windows In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:40:00 MST." <14163.65232.515714.363933@hip186.ch.intel.com> References: <3753F29C.9969CD34@satin.net> <14163.65232.515714.363933@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:29:48 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> Im trying my hardest to get my mouse working in the configuration >> section of x windows, but to no avail. My com port ttyd0 works fine as >> I tested it using minicom and a modem, but using all possible >> configuration in x's file it just wont work!! It isn't the mouse that >> works fine. Are there any other hidden files Im not aware of? Someone >> please suggest something, cause this is driving me maaaddddd!!!!! > >Well, somebody suggested that if you're using "moused" to point to /dev/sysmou >se. > >I recently installed X on a 3.1-RELEASE system (just the other night) and >ran into the same sort of problems you're facing--which I'd seen in the past >with a friend's computer. > >I have a Logitech MouseMan+ ps/2 mouse. It is auto-detected just fine on >boot, I can run moused and "vidcontrol -m on" to get mouse stuff on the >console just fine. > >However, when I ran the XF86Setup program, NOTHING I put in made it understand >there was a mouse. I tried using SysMouse and /dev/sysmouse (as the X README >says), You could have hit "Apply" ('a' key) to see if the new settings work. >then I stopped moused and tried using /dev/psm and my Logitech >MouseMan, etc. If you don't run `moused', then you should choose "/dev/psm0" for the port and "Auto" for the protocol. >All attempts failed. I could load the X server but when it >got up and asked me if I wanted to save the config file ... of course I had >no mouse and thus couldn't click the freakin' button. I suspect we can hit the tab key to navigate between buttons. >In desparation, I used the clunky xf86config ASCII configuration program and >chugged through its questions. When I got done I edited this file and made >sure I was pointing to /dev/sysmouse and using the SysMouse type protocol (sin >ce >if memory serves, it didn't offer SysMouse and /dev/sysmouse as options to a >mouse device ...). It appears that xf86config is not very well maintained anymore... >Then I fired up XF86Setup and used the previous config file as a starting >point. The mouse WAS seen this time!!! (and then I was able to configure thing >s >with the GUI quite easily). > >So, perhaps you can do that--use the xf86config program to do all or part of >the configuration--and make sure you're successfully running "moused" (by >saying "vidcontrol -m on" and seeing if you can select-n-paste on the text >console with your mouse). > >Does anyone know why XF86Setup chokes even when everything is correctly setup >for it? Umm, maybe the new settings were not properly reflected to the internal variables? Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jun 1 22:30:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261314E49; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA64929; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:30:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA55697; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:33:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199906020533.JAA55697@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: VideoCD X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:33:45 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I just have patche dkernel using Luoqi's patches for VideoCD, and again I wonder why they couldn't get committed to kernel? Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1: 8: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C30114CCD; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA75703; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:07:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199906020807.KAA75703@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: VideoCD In-Reply-To: <199906020533.JAA55697@shuttle.svib.ru> from Alex Povolotsky at "Jun 2, 1999 9:33:45 am" To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > I just have patche dkernel using Luoqi's patches for VideoCD, and again I > wonder why they couldn't get committed to kernel? I'm trying to come up with a more generalized ioctl call that will allow things like this, just time has been limitted lately, be patient... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1:35:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6813315832; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id JAA16986; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:32:48 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id KAA21329; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:30:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24807; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:21:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA21644; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:26:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3754EBF7.7684777C@telspace.alcatel.fr> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:31:51 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: Alcatel CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soren Schmidt Cc: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VideoCD References: <199906020807.KAA75703@freebsd.dk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A1DB36458B37FB796C477A27" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A1DB36458B37FB796C477A27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [slightly off-topic] Do you have references on the ioctls used on an ATAPI CDROM ? I'm using an unoffical patch to the 3.0 kernel for a ripper (daex) which I would like to use under 3.2, but I don't understand what the ioctls do. TfH Soren Schmidt wrote: > > It seems Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I just have patche dkernel using Luoqi's patches for VideoCD, and again I > > wonder why they couldn't get committed to kernel? > > I'm trying to come up with a more generalized ioctl call that will > allow things like this, just time has been limitted lately, be patient... > > -Søren > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------A1DB36458B37FB796C477A27 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="thierry.herbelot.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Thierry Herbelot Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="thierry.herbelot.vcf" begin:vcard n:Herbelot;Thierry tel;work:(+33) 1 46 52 47 23 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://perso.cybercable.fr/herbelot org:CIT Nanterre adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr x-mozilla-cpt:;-22032 fn:Thierry Herbelot end:vcard --------------A1DB36458B37FB796C477A27-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1:39:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBD815884; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA75768; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:38:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199906020838.KAA75768@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: VideoCD In-Reply-To: <3754EBF7.7684777C@telspace.alcatel.fr> from Thierry Herbelot at "Jun 2, 1999 10:31:51 am" To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:38:42 +0200 (CEST) Cc: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Thierry Herbelot wrote: > [slightly off-topic] > > Do you have references on the ioctls used on an ATAPI CDROM ? Which particular one(s), there are plenty to chose from :) There is not much else than the source... > I'm using an unoffical patch to the 3.0 kernel for a ripper (daex) which > I would like to use under 3.2, but I don't understand what the ioctls > do. If you use ATAPI drives you can use cdd from ports, works like a charm... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1:43: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E31E14E26; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15374; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:11:08 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199906020838.KAA75768@freebsd.dk> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:11:08 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: VideoCD Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Jun-99 Soren Schmidt wrote: > > I'm using an unoffical patch to the 3.0 kernel for a ripper (daex) which > > I would like to use under 3.2, but I don't understand what the ioctls > > do. > If you use ATAPI drives you can use cdd from ports, works like a charm... What sort of speeds do people get with this? I have a Diamond 40x IDE CDROM drive, and I get about 2x CDDA reading which is a bit weird IMHO. I'm quite prepared to believe its because the drive sucks tho :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1:46:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A1F15137; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA75797; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199906020846.KAA75797@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: VideoCD In-Reply-To: from "Daniel O'Connor" at "Jun 2, 1999 6:11: 8 pm" To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On 02-Jun-99 Soren Schmidt wrote: > > > I'm using an unoffical patch to the 3.0 kernel for a ripper (daex) which > > > I would like to use under 3.2, but I don't understand what the ioctls > > > do. > > If you use ATAPI drives you can use cdd from ports, works like a charm... > > What sort of speeds do people get with this? > > I have a Diamond 40x IDE CDROM drive, and I get about 2x CDDA reading which is > a bit weird IMHO. > > I'm quite prepared to believe its because the drive sucks tho :) Well, I get around 800k/sec using a Toshiba 40x drive. However most drives cannot read CDDA drives at full speed, most blame it on not being able to read the data without errors (there is NO hw correction on CDDA reads) so lowering the speed produces fewer errors. -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 1:54: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACFB15137; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15555; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:21:49 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199906020846.KAA75797@freebsd.dk> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:21:49 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: VideoCD Cc: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Jun-99 Soren Schmidt wrote: > Well, I get around 800k/sec using a Toshiba 40x drive. However most drives > cannot read CDDA drives at full speed, most blame it on not being able > to read the data without errors (there is NO hw correction on CDDA reads) > so lowering the speed produces fewer errors. Hmm.. I kinda wish I could find out for myself but oh well.. It produces pretty much perfect rips.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 4:23: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as4-019.rp-plus.de [149.221.238.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CCC14D39; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 04:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA89214; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:12:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01002; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:12:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:12:01 +0200 To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: Soren Schmidt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Subject: Re: VideoCD Message-ID: <19990602131201.E764@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <199906020838.KAA75768@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Daniel O'Connor (doconnor@gsoft.com.au): > What sort of speeds do people get with this? > I have a Diamond 40x IDE CDROM drive, and I get about 2x CDDA reading which is > a bit weird IMHO. > I'm quite prepared to believe its because the drive sucks tho :) I use dagrab from the ports, which also has a great cddb-query solution. I can grab with 4x-speed on a LiteOn 32x (which is almost not useable for data-cd's). The quality is very good. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 5:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAE414C58 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 05:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpeverley@mpc-data.co.uk) Received: from [158.152.55.245] (helo=burton.mpc-data.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10p7sG-0001u2-0A for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:03:53 +0000 Received: from mpc-data.co.uk (leyland.mpc-data.co.uk [192.150.92.78]) by burton.mpc-data.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04854 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:03:51 +0100 Message-ID: <3755019E.806C856F@mpc-data.co.uk> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:04:14 +0100 From: David Peverley Organization: MPC Data Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: System crash... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been experiencing a couple of crashes on my system (PII generic BX mobo, ATAPI DVD/CD drive, EIDE HDD) when accessing the floppy drive. First instnce I tried tarring some files to a raw /dev/fd0 when the disk was write protected - syslog got a few write protect messages and then the machine reset. Second time I tried the same but hadnt inserted the floppy fully and it hung the machine. 1) Are these errors known about? 2) Would the list like me to try and reproduce these in detail? Cheers all, ~Pev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 8: 0:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ABD151C7 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id LAA48392 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:00:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906021500.LAA48392@misha.cisco.com> Subject: can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to upgrade my -stable machine after a couple of months of uptime. Whatever the kernel I build now (from May 26 sources) refuses to mount / and panics. I see "switching to /dev/da0s1a", then to /dev/da0a and then panicing... I'm using the May 26 snapshot's generic kernel, but I have to manualy load ccd.ko with it, and it is 1 Mb bigger then I need. The only things I can see, that I try to do different from GENERIC (or LINT) are disabling the stuff I don't have AND hardwiring the SCSI devices. Can someone confirm the hardwired SCSI disks (including the one with the root FS) work with the recent 3.2-STABLE? Here is the config file I once made from the LINT, which I've been using with minor modifications for a long time. Thanks for any hints! -mi machine "i386" ident RTFM maxusers 128 options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel config kernel root on da0 cpu "I586_CPU" # aka Pentium(tm) # CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER disables load store serialize (i.e. enables # reorder). This option should not be used if you use memory mapped # I/O device(s). # # CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU enables faster FPU exception handler. options "CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER" options "CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU" options "NO_F00F_HACK" options "COMPAT_43" options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "MD5" options "VM86" options KTRACE #kernel tracing #options INVARIANTS #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #options DIAGNOSTIC #options PERFMON options UCONSOLE options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options INET #Internet communications protocols pseudo-device ether #Generic Ethernet pseudo-device loop #Network loopback device pseudo-device bpfilter 2 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device tun 2 #Tunnel driver (user process ppp(8)) options FFS #Fast filesystem options NFS #Network File System options PROCFS #Process filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device options SOFTUPDATES options NSWAPDEV=6 options "P1003_1B" options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" controller eisa0 controller ahc0 controller scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 controller scbus1 at ahc0 bus 1 disk da0 at scbus0 target 1 disk da1 at scbus0 target 2 disk da2 at scbus0 target 3 disk da3 at scbus0 target 6 disk da4 at scbus1 target 3 disk da6 at scbus1 target 6 device cd0 #SCSI CD-ROMs device od0 #SCSI optical disk device sa0 #SCSI tapes device pass0 #CAM passthrough driver device pt0 at scbus? # SCSI processor type device sctarg0 at scbus? # SCSI target pseudo-device pty 256 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256 pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device ccd 3 #Concatenated disk driver # Size of the kernel message buffer. Should be N * pagesize. #options "MSGBUF_SIZE=40960" controller isa0 options "AUTO_EOI_1" options "AUTO_EOI_2" controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # Splash screen at start up! Screen savers require this too. pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? tty options MAXCONS=12 # number of virtual consoles # To include support for VESA video modes # Dont use together with SMP!! #options VESA # needs VM86 defined too!! device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "0x2e8" tty flags 0x10 irq 11 vector siointr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO controller ppbus0 controller vpo0 at ppbus? device nlpt0 at ppbus? controller ppc0 at isa? port ? cam irq 7 options COMPAT_LINUX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 8:34:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC9914F7E for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16690; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:34:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA62876; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:34:43 -0500 (CDT) To: "Stan Brown" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Subject: Re: Recomendations on Digiboard multiport cards? References: <19990602011600.F1CE814DBD@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 02 Jun 1999 10:34:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Stan Brown"'s message of "Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:15:55 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87bteypqek.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ** Stan Brown on Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:15:55 -0400 (EDT) ** in [Recomendations on Digiboard multiport cards?] writes: Stan> I am putting together a FreeBSD system to replace an existing Stan> vendor supplied SCO system. They are using an older non Stan> inteligent Digiboard multiport card. We aren't using a DigiBoard system, but the 16 port PCI based Rocket Port card works great for us under FreeBSD (3.1, 3.2, and 3-STABLE). The kernel configuration is easy (add "device rp0") and it works like a champ. We are using it for remote serial consoles on our rack of FreeBSD servers, so our traffic is fairly low. This isn't a bas of DigiBoard, I've never used them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 8:48:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4646C15429 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by voyage.coolfitch.ie (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19185; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:39:33 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87bteypqek.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:39:32 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: (Douglas K. Rand) Subject: Re: Recomendations on Digiboard multiport cards? Cc: (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Cc: (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) , Stan Brown Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Jun-99 Douglas K. Rand wrote: > ** Stan Brown on Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:15:55 -0400 > (EDT) > ** in [Recomendations on Digiboard multiport cards?] writes: > > Stan> I am putting together a FreeBSD system to replace an existing > Stan> vendor supplied SCO system. They are using an older non > Stan> inteligent Digiboard multiport card. I'm afraid I'm another whose never usaed the Digiboard units but I used to use the Boca 16 port (16*16550A's on a shared IRQ) with no trouble at all under 2.x. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 9:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF9114D92 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 10pDk2-0003pq-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:19:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:19:45 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI? Message-ID: <19990602121945.A13484@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <199906021500.LAA48392@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906021500.LAA48392@misha.cisco.com>; from Mikhail Teterin on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:00:25AM -0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikhail Teterin probably said: > Can someone confirm the hardwired SCSI disks (including the one with the > root FS) work with the recent 3.2-STABLE? Yep, I'm using it with a 3.2-STABLE built a week ago ... P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 9:42:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [193.124.215.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD3D153B5; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by mx.nsu.ru (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA26416; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:26:25 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08949; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:26:12 +0700 (NSS) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:26:12 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: Soren Schmidt Cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , stable@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.org, tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Subject: Re: VideoCD In-Reply-To: <199906020846.KAA75797@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, there! On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > > If you use ATAPI drives you can use cdd from ports, works like a charm... > > > > What sort of speeds do people get with this? > > > > I have a Diamond 40x IDE CDROM drive, and I get about 2x CDDA reading which is > > a bit weird IMHO. > > > > I'm quite prepared to believe its because the drive sucks tho :) > > Well, I get around 800k/sec using a Toshiba 40x drive. However most drives > cannot read CDDA drives at full speed, most blame it on not being able > to read the data without errors (there is NO hw correction on CDDA reads) > so lowering the speed produces fewer errors. I get around 800-1000k/sec (depending on track number). old good Panasonic CR-584 (12x), cdd, cdrom drive and hdd are on the same controller, FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE (May 31), no DMA seems that cd audio dump (under OS/2) reads CDDA much faster (drive itself can read CDDA at 12x = 1800k/s) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 10: 6:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DC114C0C for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA65213 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:06:04 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14519 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:09:32 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199906021709.VAA14519@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Problem making release X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:09:31 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! What can cause this problem: + make doRELEASE rm -rf /R/stage/dists mkdir -p /R/stage/dists rolling bin/bin tarball tar: dev/da0s3: minor number too large; not dumped tar: dev/rda0s3: minor number too large; not dumped [...] Terminated *** Error code 143 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Help me please! Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 11: 0: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web106.yahoomail.com (web106.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 792FD15108 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from _stealthviper@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990602180029.9315.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Received: from [12.13.70.51] by web106.yahoomail.com; Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:00:29 PDT Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Stealth Viper <_stealthviper@yahoo.com> Reply-To: Stealthviper@iname.com Subject: unsubscribe To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 11: 1:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.mail.sbl.com (www.mail.sbl.com [12.13.70.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E98815108 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:01:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott.bowman@securitybenefit.com) Received: by EXCHANGE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2MZHB5AB>; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: <5FAB47BA4F76D21183300020352A949C03E2AD@EXCHANGE1> From: "Bowman, Scott" To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: subscribe Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:56:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe scott.bowman@securitybenefit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 11:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A55D15305 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip137.houston2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.11.201.137]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08C9370AC; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA38287; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:57:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:57:13 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Dustin Lang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ramblings from a Newbie... Message-ID: <19990602135713.A38175@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Alfred Perlstein on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 01:07:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 30, 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Not only programmers and administrators benifit from vi but at my last > job it was even a requirement for the HTML people. It'll also save > your skin when/if you ever have to do something on a bare-install > commercial unix, as they mostly don't come equiped with anything > besides vi. > > learn vi, it's good for you. ed is probably more abundant than vi, and has similar syntax, although it's tons harder to understand where you are in a file. I once wrote a perl script in it just for fun -- it wasn't that hard once you realize that you're not in vi anymore. -- Chris Costello Real programs don't eat cache. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 11:59:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0B7153AE for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1055.bossig.com [208.26.241.55]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12152; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37557E9C.2ED3638C@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:57:32 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI? References: <199906021500.LAA48392@misha.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > I tried to upgrade my -stable machine after a couple of months of > uptime. Whatever the kernel I build now (from May 26 sources) refuses to > mount / and panics. I see "switching to /dev/da0s1a", then to /dev/da0a > and then panicing... I'm using the May 26 snapshot's generic kernel, but > I have to manualy load ccd.ko with it, and it is 1 Mb bigger then I > need. You really don't talk about doing a "make world" and running "mergemaster" to upgrade the rest of your system before you did your kernel build. There were massive changes that aren't accounted for if you didn't upgrade everything. I'm also running 3.2-stable but I'm 29 May 1999. Kent > > The only things I can see, that I try to do different from GENERIC (or > LINT) are disabling the stuff I don't have AND hardwiring the SCSI > devices. > > Can someone confirm the hardwired SCSI disks (including the one with the > root FS) work with the recent 3.2-STABLE? > > Here is the config file I once made from the LINT, which I've been using > with minor modifications for a long time. Thanks for any hints! > > -mi > > machine "i386" > ident RTFM > maxusers 128 > options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel > config kernel root on da0 > > cpu "I586_CPU" # aka Pentium(tm) > > # CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER disables load store serialize (i.e. enables > # reorder). This option should not be used if you use memory mapped > # I/O device(s). > # > # CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU enables faster FPU exception handler. > > options "CPU_DISABLE_5X86_LSSER" > options "CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU" > options "NO_F00F_HACK" > options "COMPAT_43" > > options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt > > options SYSVSHM > options SYSVSEM > options SYSVMSG > options "MD5" > options "VM86" > options KTRACE #kernel tracing > #options INVARIANTS > #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT > #options DIAGNOSTIC > #options PERFMON > options UCONSOLE > > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor > > options INET #Internet communications protocols > pseudo-device ether #Generic Ethernet > pseudo-device loop #Network loopback device > pseudo-device bpfilter 2 #Berkeley packet filter > pseudo-device tun 2 #Tunnel driver (user process ppp(8)) > > options FFS #Fast filesystem > options NFS #Network File System > > options PROCFS #Process filesystem > options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device > > options SOFTUPDATES > > options NSWAPDEV=6 > > options "P1003_1B" > options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" > options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" > > controller eisa0 > controller ahc0 > > controller scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 > controller scbus1 at ahc0 bus 1 > > disk da0 at scbus0 target 1 > disk da1 at scbus0 target 2 > disk da2 at scbus0 target 3 > disk da3 at scbus0 target 6 > disk da4 at scbus1 target 3 > disk da6 at scbus1 target 6 > > device cd0 #SCSI CD-ROMs > device od0 #SCSI optical disk > device sa0 #SCSI tapes > device pass0 #CAM passthrough driver > > device pt0 at scbus? # SCSI processor type > device sctarg0 at scbus? # SCSI target > > pseudo-device pty 256 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256 > pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker > pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's > pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) > pseudo-device ccd 3 #Concatenated disk driver > > # Size of the kernel message buffer. Should be N * pagesize. > #options "MSGBUF_SIZE=40960" > > controller isa0 > > options "AUTO_EOI_1" > options "AUTO_EOI_2" > > controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty > device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 > device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 > device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts > > # Splash screen at start up! Screen savers require this too. > pseudo-device splash > > device sc0 at isa? tty > options MAXCONS=12 # number of virtual consoles > > # To include support for VESA video modes > # Dont use together with SMP!! > #options VESA # needs VM86 defined too!! > > device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 > > controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 > disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 > device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 vector siointr > device sio2 at isa? port "0x2e8" tty flags 0x10 irq 11 vector siointr > > device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 > > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 > > options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO > > controller ppbus0 > controller vpo0 at ppbus? > device nlpt0 at ppbus? > > controller ppc0 at isa? port ? cam irq 7 > > options COMPAT_LINUX > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 12:10:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF2115948 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:10:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA49660; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:09:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906021909.PAA49660@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI? In-Reply-To: <37557E9C.2ED3638C@3-cities.com> from Kent Stewart at "Jun 2, 1999 11:57:32 am" To: kstewart@3-cities.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart once wrote: > > I see "switching to /dev/da0s1a", then to /dev/da0a and then > > panicing... I'm using the May 26 snapshot's generic kernel, but I > > have to manualy load ccd.ko with it, and it is 1 Mb bigger then I > > need. > You really don't talk about doing a "make world" and running > "mergemaster" to upgrade the rest of your system before you did your > kernel build. Well, as I said, the GENERIC kernel has no problems... I did install the bin distribution from the May 26 snapshot. > There were massive changes that aren't accounted for if you didn't > upgrade everything. I'm also running 3.2-stable but I'm 29 May 1999. Well, now my bin and the GENERIC kernel are from May 26. The new kernels I'm trying to build may be from source a couple of days newer -- say May 30... This question remains: > > Can someone confirm the hardwired SCSI disks (including the one with > > the root FS) work with the recent 3.2-STABLE? Thanks! -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 12:54:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118D31539E for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA18678; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:42:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01098; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:28:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199906021828.UAA01098@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: System crash... In-Reply-To: <3755019E.806C856F@mpc-data.co.uk> from David Peverley at "Jun 2, 1999 11: 4:14 am" To: dpeverley@mpc-data.co.uk (David Peverley) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:28:47 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As David Peverley wrote ... > Hi, > > I've been experiencing a couple of crashes on my system (PII > generic BX mobo, ATAPI DVD/CD drive, EIDE HDD) when accessing the > floppy drive. First instnce I tried tarring some files to a raw > /dev/fd0 when the disk was write protected - syslog got a few raw /dev/fd0? Like /dev/rfd0? > write protect messages and then the machine reset. Second time > I tried the same but hadnt inserted the floppy fully and it > hung the machine. > 1) Are these errors known about? This is reproducible by multiple people when using /dev/fd0. Using /dev/rfd0 I cannot reproduce it. > 2) Would the list like me to try and reproduce these in detail? dd if=/kernel of=/dev/fd0 was enough for me to see it panic. | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 16: 5:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DB614E0D for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA13444 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:05:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199906022305.TAA13444@misha.cisco.com> Subject: world fails in usr.sbin/inetd To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL52 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cvsupped a couple of minutes ago from cvsup.freebsd.org. ===> usr.sbin/inetd rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DLOGIN_CAP -DLIBWRAP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:136: tcpd.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 17:24: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smyk.apk.net (smyk.apk.net [207.54.158.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D9D14E2F for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lem@po.cwru.edu) Received: from po.cwru.edu (as4-0.apk.net [207.54.160.151]) by smyk.apk.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/apk.981124) with ESMTP id UAA17631 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3755CB56.A82FA386@po.cwru.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:24:54 -0400 From: "Leonard E. Marinis" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 17:51:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02FE15360 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Wind_Freak@msn.com) Received: from default - 153.34.236.90 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:51:32 -0700 From: "Wind_Freak" To: Subject: please add me to the mailing list Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:49:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000401bead5a$f10ee660$5aec2299@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 18:41:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.12.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB5114E5D for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA02849; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:40:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199906030140.VAA02849@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: world fails in usr.sbin/inetd In-Reply-To: <199906022351.QAA04834@shell13.ba.best.com> from "gil i. pollas" at "Jun 2, 1999 04:51:47 pm" To: rone@ennui.org (gil i. pollas) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" usr.sbin/inetd = rm -f .depend = mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DLOGIN_CAP -DLIBWRAP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c = /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:136: tcpd.h: No such file or directory = mkdep: compile failed = *** Error code 1 = =Strange, i don't see this, and i have tcpd.h in my /usr/include. Do you? Well, I have it there too, but it should not matter, because buildworld does not use /usr/include. It is also present in /usr/src/contrib/tcp_wrappers but the mkdep's line, evidently, does not contain that directory :( -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 20:11:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6EA14D68 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22834; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI? In-Reply-To: <199906021500.LAA48392@misha.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > disk da0 at scbus0 target 1 > disk da1 at scbus0 target 2 > disk da2 at scbus0 target 3 > disk da3 at scbus0 target 6 > disk da4 at scbus1 target 3 > disk da6 at scbus1 target 6 Most SCSI disk are target 0 for boot, perhaps you are off by one on the target number? Having your boot disk at target 1 is not a problem, I do that myself so I can plug in a jaz drive and boot from that for recovery purposes. On the other hand it's not common. How about also including the output of the dmesg from the GENERIC kernel that boots and runs. -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jun 2 20:32:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.12.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B1E151C8 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id XAA03187; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199906030331.XAA03187@kot.ne.mediaone.net> Subject: solved (can not mount root :( -- hardwired SCSI?) In-Reply-To: from Cliff Skolnick at "Jun 2, 1999 08:12:07 pm" To: cliff@steam.com (Cliff Skolnick) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" disk da0 at scbus0 target 1 => disk da1 at scbus0 target 2 => disk da2 at scbus0 target 3 => disk da3 at scbus0 target 6 => disk da4 at scbus1 target 3 => disk da6 at scbus1 target 6 =Most SCSI disk are target 0 for boot, perhaps you are off by one on the =target number? Having your boot disk at target 1 is not a problem, I do =that myself so I can plug in a jaz drive and boot from that for =recovery purposes. On the other hand it's not common. You are right!! That's the discrepancy! Now, hmm, why did it work before I don't know... Wow, my fault. I guess, I changed the SCSI-id long time ago, but the machine kept working through many upgrades until this one... [...] da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number PCB=429241927197(ZG41927197 ?); HDA=0000000042084081 da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 1021MB (2091144 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1021C) [...] Thanks a lot! I was almost about to start whining the disk hardwiring is broken :-( -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 0:57:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from waterwall.inec.ru (INEC.network.mtmc.ru [194.247.151.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067D14E23 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsw@inec.ru) Received: from PENTAGRAM (hardcore.inec.ru [194.247.151.9]) by waterwall.inec.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA31848 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:56:19 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilya Balashov" To: Subject: ipfilter broken in 3.2-stable Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:58:45 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i using freebsd 3.2-stable with ipfw... for some reasons, i try to change ipfw (options IPFIREWALL) and ipf (options IPFILTER)... but after reconfigure my system with ipfilter (NAT+accounting+some blocking rules), i have critical problems with IPfilter internal ftp proxy (using it cause kernel panic) atfer some exploration, i found ipfilter 3.2.10 is latest, but in 3.2-stable has 3.2.7 i wrote to Darren Reed, and ask him: "can you update IP Filter in 3.2-stable branch???" and he answer: "when I get 3.2 cd-rom's, yes" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 3:44:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBCC71500A for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 03:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.51.23] by web118.yahoomail.com; Thu, 03 Jun 1999 03:44:48 PDT Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 03:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys & gals, Right when I found out freebsd supported more then one processor, I put together my first dual processor machine. At the time I installed 3.1-release, then upgraded that to 3.1-stable. What I noticied was if I checked a users 'ps' info, or 'top' for stats of certain processes running, they ALL said they were using 0.00% cpu usage, which is not correct. CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle For example..then everything users were running was 0.00% too, so if something went haywire its very hard to tell. My question is, was this fixed in 3.2-stable? Thanks, Holt _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 6: 7:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA605152D0 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from partitur.se (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16849; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:07:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Message-ID: <37567DE9.568FD3A0@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:06:49 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: sv, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? References: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Did you really upgrade both kernel and userland? This kind of problem is often the case when kernel and ps/top are "out of sync". /Palle Holtor wrote: > > Hi guys & gals, > > Right when I found out freebsd supported more then one > processor, I put together my first dual processor > machine. At the time I installed 3.1-release, then > upgraded that to 3.1-stable. What I noticied was > if I checked a users 'ps' info, or 'top' for stats > of certain processes running, they ALL said they > were using 0.00% cpu usage, which is not correct. > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, > 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle > For example..then everything users were running > was 0.00% too, so if something went haywire its very > hard to tell. > > My question is, was this fixed in 3.2-stable? > > Thanks, > Holt > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 9: 2:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (envy.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C1F71539B for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from harry@ph.ed.ac.uk) Received: from chianti.ph.ed.ac.uk (chianti.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.113]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA14115 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:02:02 +0100 Received: (harry@localhost) by chianti.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA21719; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:00:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:00:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199906031600.RAA21719@chianti.ph.ed.ac.uk> From: Harry Newton To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-da-Vinci: Men of lofty genius when they are doing the least work are the most active Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5246 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 9:43: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp39-9.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.39.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C1B14EA4 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from broccoli.no-support.loc (broccoli.no-support.loc [192.168.43.99]) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00889 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:42:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bjoern@no-support.loc) From: Bjoern Fischer Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by broccoli.no-support.loc (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00357 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:42:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bjoern@no-support.loc) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:42:04 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kldunload & wired mem Message-ID: <19990603184204.A292@broccoli.no-support.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, could it be true that wired memory that was allocated while loading a kernel module is not freed when it is unloaded again? New memory gets wired on every load/unload cycle of the same module. E.g. if you load/unload cd9660.ko repeatedly, more and more memory gets wired and the machine will reboot, when there's no memory available any more. Are there plans to improve this behavoir? At the moment I can't see any benefit from unloading a module at all. Thanks. Bj=F6rn --=20 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UB++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L+++(--) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+=20 ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 10:37:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (madrugada.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1599A1552F for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aflury@madrugada.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (aflury@localhost) by madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (8.9.3/NAS8.8.7n) with ESMTP id KAA24105; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906031737.KAA24105@madrugada.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 03:44:48 PDT." <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:37:34 -0700 From: "Andrew W. Flury" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen the same symptoms on a 3.2-STABLE (as of 5/30, and yes, world is in sync with the kernel) machine with two PII's on an Asus P2B-D motherboard. To see what it's doing in a little more detail, I tried rebooting then immediately starting a process that ate up 100% of one of the CPUs. As soon as it was started, I ran top. What I saw that it was initially at 50% CPU usage (which it should be), but then gradually decreased until it was at 0.00%. After that point, every process was at 0.00% usage, even though they were all still running just fine. The CPU states were also all at 0.0%. I can provide more detailed information on my config upon request. > Hi guys & gals, > > Right when I found out freebsd supported more then one > processor, I put together my first dual processor > machine. At the time I installed 3.1-release, then > upgraded that to 3.1-stable. What I noticied was > if I checked a users 'ps' info, or 'top' for stats > of certain processes running, they ALL said they > were using 0.00% cpu usage, which is not correct. > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, > 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle > For example..then everything users were running > was 0.00% too, so if something went haywire its very > hard to tell. > > My question is, was this fixed in 3.2-stable? > > Thanks, > Holt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 12:54:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.fda.net (ns2.fda.net [216.98.147.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2A21599E for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shellis@fda.net) Received: from fda.net (ts35p25.fda.net [216.98.147.138]) by ns2.fda.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05111 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3756DD41.4B2A3FD6@fda.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:53:37 -0700 From: s Reply-To: shellis@fda.net Organization: t X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A little Linux compatability exercise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Dear Folks, Several weeks ago I tried to install a package called xinvest-2.5.1.tgz. What occurred was quite interesting, and the resulting frustrations have only been out-matched by the interesting learning experience. The reason I am interested in this little project (it has now turned into a project) is that it gives me valuable experience in adding Linux type packages. This will probably become more important to FreeBSD users as the library of Linux applications expands. I am using release 3.1 on 3 different systems; one is a Pentium 200, one is an AMD 233, and the third is a 486 DX 66. The first two systems have 64 MB of RAM and the third system has 48 MB of RAM. All three systems have at least seven gigabytes of disk. I believe that the last appearance of the xinvest package is in the packages for release 2.2.8. I downloaded the package, and used the package add function. It installed smoothly on all three systems. I have also installed linux_lib-2.6, and later linux_lib-2.6.1. I also re-compiled my kernel with "option Linux." Then the fun began. 1.) On the first system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the following diagnostic: ld-elf.so.1 failed: shared object "libXm.so.1" not found. I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case. 2.) On the second system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the following diagnostic: ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.11" I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case, as was the situation with the 486 DX 66. 3.) On the third system, I received the following diagnostic: ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4" But the following exist... /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 and usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 I made sure that the proper link was made between libXpm.so.4.11 and libXpm.so.4 in both cases, as pointed out in the handbook, section 23.1. In all three cases, I made sure that xpm-4.3k was present. The same for lessiif. In all cases, I made sure that the FreeBSD version of libXm.so.1 was present in /usr/X11R6 and that the Linux version was present in /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, as prescribed in the handbook, section 23.1. The second system got even more interesting. I re-generated xpm-4.3k and xinvest came up perfectly. If you left X-Windows, and re-entered, Xinvest still came up. However, if you re-booted, you were back with the original diagnostic error. You could, however, re-generate xpm-4.3k, and xinvest would come up and run perfectly again. This did not happen on either of the other systems. Finally, what intrigues me the most is that one of the fellows in the office that I introduced to FreeBSD downloaded and ran xinvest using release 2.2.8 without a hitch. As far as I know, he had the same libraries I have. I tried a last experiment. I read the document "PATH HOWTO" in my quest on the Web for some knowledge. I wrote a little script as follows: csh setenv PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/libexec:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin: /usr/X11R6/lib:/sbin:/usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib Xinvest What happened here was also interesting; no warning errors would come up as before, but neither would the program. I also changed /root/.profile and /.profile to include the directories mentioned. Still, no positive results. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and I am dangerous. If at all possible, please tell me what I am doing wrong. Please also, if possible, please advise me what reading I can pick up so that I can learn more on this subject. Thanks for any help you can supply and for a great OS. Steve Ellis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 13: 4:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bcgrizzly.com (bcgrizzly.com [207.34.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 977E915A07 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forger@bcgrizzly.com) Received: (qmail 24413 invoked from network); 3 Jun 1999 19:58:53 -0000 Received: from bcgrizzly.com (forger@207.34.136.10) by bcgrizzly.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 1999 19:58:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Brook Miles To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: world fails in usr.sbin/inetd In-Reply-To: <199906022305.TAA13444@misha.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Cvsupped a couple of minutes ago from cvsup.freebsd.org. > > ===> usr.sbin/inetd > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DLOGIN_CAP -DLIBWRAP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:136: tcpd.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > > -mi This happened to me during a buildworld with -DNOCLEAN, removing the -DNOCLEAN parameter fixed the problem. +--- | Brook Miles | A spec of cosmic dust... with attitude. +-------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 14:27:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2596F158C6 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id OAA19588; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:21:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: s Cc: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A little Linux compatability exercise In-Reply-To: <3756DD41.4B2A3FD6@fda.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: shellis@fda.net,FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Other people have had problems due to the aout->elf change. Since the package is from 2.2.8 it is going to be dependent on the aout libraries. Check that ldconfig is set right for your a.out libraries. I hope this helps a little. If this does not point you in the right direction let me know. -Kip On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, s wrote: > To: > FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Dear Folks, > > > Several weeks ago I tried to install a package called > xinvest-2.5.1.tgz. What occurred was quite interesting, and the > resulting frustrations have only been out-matched by the interesting > learning experience. The reason I am interested in this little project > (it has now turned into a project) is that it gives me valuable > experience in adding Linux type packages. This will probably become > more important to FreeBSD users as the library of Linux applications > expands. > > I am using release 3.1 on 3 different systems; one is a Pentium 200, one > is an AMD 233, and the third is a 486 DX 66. The first two systems have > 64 MB of RAM and the third system has 48 MB of RAM. All three systems > have at least seven gigabytes of disk. > > I believe that the last appearance of the xinvest package is in the > packages for release 2.2.8. I downloaded the package, and used the > package add function. It installed smoothly on all three systems. I > have also installed linux_lib-2.6, and later linux_lib-2.6.1. I also > re-compiled my kernel with "option Linux." Then the fun began. > > 1.) On the first system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the > following diagnostic: > > ld-elf.so.1 failed: shared object "libXm.so.1" not found. > > I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both > /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case. > > 2.) On the second system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the > following diagnostic: > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.11" > > I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both > /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case, > as was the situation with the 486 DX 66. > > > 3.) On the third system, I received the following diagnostic: > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4" > > But the following exist... > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 and > usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 > > > I made sure that the proper link was made between > libXpm.so.4.11 and libXpm.so.4 in both cases, as pointed out in the > handbook, section 23.1. > In all three cases, I made sure that xpm-4.3k was present. The same for > lessiif. In all cases, I made sure that the FreeBSD version of > libXm.so.1 was present in /usr/X11R6 and that the Linux version was > present in /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, as prescribed in the > handbook, section 23.1. > > The second system got even more interesting. I re-generated xpm-4.3k > and xinvest came up perfectly. If you left X-Windows, and re-entered, > Xinvest still came up. However, if you re-booted, you were back with > the original diagnostic error. You could, however, re-generate xpm-4.3k, > and xinvest would come up and run perfectly again. This did not happen > on either of the other systems. Finally, what intrigues me the most is > that one of the fellows in the office that I introduced to FreeBSD > downloaded and ran xinvest using release 2.2.8 without a hitch. As far > as I know, he had the same libraries I have. I tried a last experiment. > I read the document "PATH HOWTO" in my quest on the Web for some > knowledge. I wrote a little script as follows: > > csh > setenv PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/libexec:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin: > /usr/X11R6/lib:/sbin:/usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib > Xinvest > > What happened here was also interesting; no warning errors would come up > as before, but neither would the program. > > I also changed /root/.profile and /.profile to include the directories > mentioned. Still, no positive results. > > > A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and I am dangerous. If at all > possible, please tell me what I am doing wrong. Please also, if > possible, please advise me what reading I can pick up so that I can > learn more on this subject. > > Thanks for any help you can supply and for a great OS. > Steve Ellis > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 14:41:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pollux.sdata.de (pollux.sdata.de [193.30.133.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CE2158C6 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Received: from sdata.de (vega.sdata.de [193.30.133.36]) by pollux.sdata.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA42090 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:41:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Message-ID: <3756F682.9CA5E2B3@sdata.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:41:22 +0200 From: Christoph Splittgerber Organization: sdata - C. Splittgerber Datentechnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? References: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see exactly the same behaviour on a 3.2-STABLE from May 26! It's even more strange: Shortly after rebooting % cpu usage seems to be correct and then suddenly after a shot time it decreases to 0.0% for all processes. BTW: this is a ASUS P2B Christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 14:41:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C92159F2 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p612.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.124.140]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14840 from for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:41:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA45028 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:41:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable@FreeBSD.ORG) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:40:56 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <3756F668.F2AA6A35@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3756DD41.4B2A3FD6@fda.net> Subject: Re: A little Linux compatability exercise Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG s wrote: [lots snipped] > ld-elf.so.1 failed: shared object "libXm.so.1" not found. > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.11" > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4" [even more snipped] The fact that ld{-elf}.so{.1} can't find the libraries is because it isn't looking in the directory in which the libraries are stored. Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately. NOTE: LD_LIBRARY_PATH applies to both Linux and FreeBSD binaries, so use it with care. The safest way to use it, is to make a Xinvest script which sets it just before starting the actual binary (like Netscape). -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 14:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luna.lyris.net (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF757158C6 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kip@lyris.com) Received: from luna.shelby.com by luna.lyris.net (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id OAA19685; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6]) by luna.shelby.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.50); Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:38:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: X-Sender: kip@luna To: Marcel Moolenaar Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A little Linux compatability exercise In-Reply-To: <3756F668.F2AA6A35@scc.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SMTP-HELO: luna X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: kip@lyris.com X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: marcel@scc.nl,stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: luna.shelby.com [207.90.155.6] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > s wrote: > > [lots snipped] > > ld-elf.so.1 failed: shared object "libXm.so.1" not found. > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.11" > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4" > [even more snipped] > > The fact that ld{-elf}.so{.1} can't find the libraries is because it isn't > looking in the directory in which the libraries are stored. Set > LD_LIBRARY_PATH appropriately. NOTE: LD_LIBRARY_PATH applies to both Linux > and FreeBSD binaries, so use it with care. The safest way to use it, is to > make a Xinvest script which sets it just before starting the actual binary > (like Netscape). > And then undefines it. It also applies to both a.out and elf, so for the life of the shell you would have trouble running binaries of the other type. > -- > Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl > SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ > Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 15: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001AC158C6 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (p731.asi.euronet.nl [194.134.124.223]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06030; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:00:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA45670; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:00:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <3756FB02.23A0F71@scc.nl> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:00:34 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kip@lyris.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A little Linux compatability exercise References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kip@lyris.com wrote: > > And then undefines it. It also applies to both a.out and elf, so for the > life of the shell you would have trouble running binaries of the other > type. We're talking Linux here. aout vs. elf is not an issue. There is also no need to undefine it. The only thing the script needs to do is to define LD_LIBRARY_PATH is and then run xinvest. -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 16:40:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8E514C27 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06369; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA68898; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906032340.QAA68898@vashon.polstra.com> To: forger@bcgrizzly.com Subject: Re: Keeping custom changes during a cvsup In-Reply-To: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Brook Miles wrote: > > Can somebody point me in the right direction for maintaining custom > changes made to the source tree while still keeping up to date with > -stable or whatever branch you're following? There is a section on this topic in the CVSup FAQ. http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/ John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 17:42:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15F15272 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA09983; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:42:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375720E6.29016D1C@math.missouri.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:42:14 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shellis@fda.net Cc: FreeBSD-Stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A little Linux compatability exercise References: <3756DD41.4B2A3FD6@fda.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had problems like this also. It went away when I upgraded to a later version of STABLE. s wrote: > > To: > FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Dear Folks, > > Several weeks ago I tried to install a package called > xinvest-2.5.1.tgz. What occurred was quite interesting, and the > resulting frustrations have only been out-matched by the interesting > learning experience. The reason I am interested in this little project > (it has now turned into a project) is that it gives me valuable > experience in adding Linux type packages. This will probably become > more important to FreeBSD users as the library of Linux applications > expands. > > I am using release 3.1 on 3 different systems; one is a Pentium 200, one > is an AMD 233, and the third is a 486 DX 66. The first two systems have > 64 MB of RAM and the third system has 48 MB of RAM. All three systems > have at least seven gigabytes of disk. > > I believe that the last appearance of the xinvest package is in the > packages for release 2.2.8. I downloaded the package, and used the > package add function. It installed smoothly on all three systems. I > have also installed linux_lib-2.6, and later linux_lib-2.6.1. I also > re-compiled my kernel with "option Linux." Then the fun began. > > 1.) On the first system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the > following diagnostic: > > ld-elf.so.1 failed: shared object "libXm.so.1" not found. > > I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both > /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case. > > 2.) On the second system, when I typed in "Xinvest", I received the > following diagnostic: > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.11" > > I checked my directories to make sure that this was present in both > /usr/X11R6/lib and /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, which was the case, > as was the situation with the 486 DX 66. > > 3.) On the third system, I received the following diagnostic: > > ld.so failed: can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4" > > But the following exist... > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 and > usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.11 > > I made sure that the proper link was made between > libXpm.so.4.11 and libXpm.so.4 in both cases, as pointed out in the > handbook, section 23.1. > In all three cases, I made sure that xpm-4.3k was present. The same for > lessiif. In all cases, I made sure that the FreeBSD version of > libXm.so.1 was present in /usr/X11R6 and that the Linux version was > present in /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib, as prescribed in the > handbook, section 23.1. > > The second system got even more interesting. I re-generated xpm-4.3k > and xinvest came up perfectly. If you left X-Windows, and re-entered, > Xinvest still came up. However, if you re-booted, you were back with > the original diagnostic error. You could, however, re-generate xpm-4.3k, > and xinvest would come up and run perfectly again. This did not happen > on either of the other systems. Finally, what intrigues me the most is > that one of the fellows in the office that I introduced to FreeBSD > downloaded and ran xinvest using release 2.2.8 without a hitch. As far > as I know, he had the same libraries I have. I tried a last experiment. > I read the document "PATH HOWTO" in my quest on the Web for some > knowledge. I wrote a little script as follows: > > csh > setenv PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/libexec:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin: > /usr/X11R6/lib:/sbin:/usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib > Xinvest > > What happened here was also interesting; no warning errors would come up > as before, but neither would the program. > > I also changed /root/.profile and /.profile to include the directories > mentioned. Still, no positive results. > > A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and I am dangerous. If at all > possible, please tell me what I am doing wrong. Please also, if > possible, please advise me what reading I can pick up so that I can > learn more on this subject. > > Thanks for any help you can supply and for a great OS. > Steve Ellis > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 18:24:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADF3214E2B for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 13908 invoked from network); 3 Jun 1999 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 1999 23:35:22 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990603163507.00a9dc40@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy.chip-web.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:35:54 -0700 To: Mikhail Teterin , rone@ennui.org (gil i. pollas) From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: world fails in usr.sbin/inetd Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199906030140.VAA02849@kot.ne.mediaone.net> References: <199906022351.QAA04834@shell13.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:40 PM 6/2/1999 , Mikhail Teterin wrote: >gil i. pollas once stated: > >=Mikhail Teterin writes: >= Cvsupped a couple of minutes ago from cvsup.freebsd.org. >= ===> usr.sbin/inetd >= rm -f .depend >= mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -DLOGIN_CAP -DLIBWRAP >-I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c >= /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd/inetd.c:136: tcpd.h: No such file or directory >= mkdep: compile failed >= *** Error code 1 >= >=Strange, i don't see this, and i have tcpd.h in my /usr/include. Do you? > >Well, I have it there too, but it should not matter, because >buildworld does not use /usr/include. It is also present in >/usr/src/contrib/tcp_wrappers but the mkdep's line, evidently, does not >contain that directory :( I had this problem too, and went to IRC. I was told to do a 'make cleandir' TWICE in /usr/src. After this, 'make buildworld' went fine. --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jun 3 22:23:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from templar.fgi.net (templar.fgi.net [206.101.112.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD76B14FA1 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darnold@fgi.net) Received: from darnold.fgi.net (usr1tc241.fgi.net [208.235.50.241]) by templar.fgi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA32054 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:23:11 -0500 From: Dick Arnold To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apsfilter-5.1.1 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:13:08 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99060400224400.02080@darnold.fgi.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think there may be a problem with apsfilter current port. I'm running 3.2 stable and did a makeworld a few days ago. Can someone verify this or is it just me? Thanks Dick A. darnold# make ===> Extracting for apsfilter-5.1.1 >> Checksum OK for apsfilter-5.1.1.tar.bz2. ===> apsfilter-5.1.1 depends on executable: bzip2 - found ===> Patching for apsfilter-5.1.1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apsfilter-5.1.1 1 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to bin/apsfilter.rej 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to template/apsfilterrc.rej *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 2:45: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5191414FD9 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.R.A.M.Schreel@wtb.tue.nl) Received: from wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.55] by kweetal.tue.nl (8.9.3) for id LAA20899 (ESMTP). Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:45:01 +0200 (MDT) Received: from wtb.tue.nl (wop24.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.116]) by wop5.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA04048 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:45:00 GMT Message-ID: <3757A071.422E1984@wtb.tue.nl> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:46:25 +0200 From: Koen Schreel Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? References: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> <3756F682.9CA5E2B3@sdata.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christoph Splittgerber wrote: > > I see exactly the same behaviour on a 3.2-STABLE from May 26! > It's even more strange: Shortly after rebooting % cpu usage > seems to be correct and then suddenly after a shot time > it decreases to 0.0% for all processes. > BTW: this is a ASUS P2B Same for me on a P2B-DS with a build made yesterday. Has been this way since 3.0, btw. I noticed that the P2B-DS has 3 busses instead of the default 4, but adding that to the kernel config did not change things. Koen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 2:53: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.axis.de (hermes.axis.de [194.163.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 533FD14FD9 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maret@axis.de) Received: from erlangen01.axis.de by hermes.axis.de via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 09:53:04 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <91DA20EC3C3DD211833400A0245A4EA9BA0E87@erlangen01.axis.de> From: Alexander Maret To: 'Dick Arnold' Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: apsfilter-5.1.1 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:53:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem and patched the patch :) You will get additional problems because apsfilter depends for example on html2ps and this isn't located on the freebsd ftp server. Or perhaps it is there but I (and make) couldn't find it. Make couldn't fetch it from the "homesite" either. You've got to get it manually. Alex > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Arnold [mailto:darnold@fgi.net] > Sent: Freitag, 4. Juni 1999 07:13 > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: apsfilter-5.1.1 > > > I think there may be a problem with apsfilter current port. > I'm running > 3.2 stable and did a makeworld a few days ago. Can someone verify this > or is it just me? > Thanks > Dick A. > > darnold# make > ===> Extracting for apsfilter-5.1.1 > >> Checksum OK for apsfilter-5.1.1.tar.bz2. > ===> apsfilter-5.1.1 depends on executable: bzip2 - found > ===> Patching for apsfilter-5.1.1 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apsfilter-5.1.1 > 1 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to bin/apsfilter.rej > 1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to template/apsfilterrc.rej > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 6:37:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.cl.msu.edu (phoenix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A254314E09 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikhala@phoenix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from ikhala@localhost) by phoenix.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA62694; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:39:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ikhala) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:39:39 -0400 From: "I'Khala" To: Spidey Cc: bwood@KingsU.ab.ca, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP Scripts Message-ID: <19990604093939.A62522@phoenix.cl.msu.edu> References: <19990526154059.B42978@phoenix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Spidey on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 02:05:32PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Spidey (spidey@jsp.umontreal.ca): > If anyone cares.... for the cvsup part, I made an scripts that automates > the process of upgrading the sources: Of course we care ... :) > > It is very stupid and simple, but it saves me some time, and it keeps all > the mods made to the source tree logged somewhere with a timestamp in the > name. Just applying the ubiquitous k.i.s.s. principle. I'm all for that!!! > > Just do, say, ./update ports to update the tree as per the ports-supfile > and log the results in ./logs/ports-`date +%Y%m%d` > > Gimme your comments please! I've only glanced at it so far. I'll take a closer look tonite, run it on a couple of servers I maintain. From what I see so far I like it. One of the best things about *nix is the number of tools at our disposal along with the number of way to implement an idea ... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > #! /bin/sh > > cvsup="/usr/local/bin/cvsup" > flags="-P m -L 2 -g -h" > host="cvsup.ca.freebsd.org" > curDir="." > logdir="$curDir/logs" > date=`date +%Y%m%d` > nolog=0 > verbose=1 > > # A basic usage... > usage ( ) { > cat < Usage: update [-q] [-n | -l ] [ -d ] collection > -q: be quiet > -n: do not log to a file > -l : log into dir > -d : change the date format used for logfile name ["$date"] > The supfile will be -supfile. > EOF > exit 1 > } > > if test $# -lt 1 > then usage > fi > > # Get the command line right! > #set -- `getopt nl:qv $*` > > #for i > #do > # case "$i" > # in > # -q) > # verbose=0; shift;; > # -v) > # verbose=1; shift;; > # -n) > # nolog=1; shift;; > # -l) > # logdir=$2; shift; shift;; > # -d) > # date=$2; shift; shift;; > # esac > #done > > dist=$1 > supfile="$curDir/$dist-supfile" > > if [ ! -r $supfile ] > then > echo "Can't read $supfile, exiting..." > exit 1 > fi > > if [ ! -d $logdir ] > then > echo "Can't find $logdir directory, using current dir for logfiles" > logdir="." > fi > > if [ $nolog -eq 1 ] > then > logfile="/dev/null" > else > logfile="$logdir/$dist-$date" > fi > > echo "This will be the command issued:" > echo "\"$cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 | tee -a $logfile\"" > echo -n "Press [enter] to confirm, or ^C to exit: " > read void > > if [ $verbose -eq 1 ] > then > $cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 | tee -a $logfile > else > $cvsup $flags $host $supfile 2>&1 >> $logfile > fi > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [snip, snip ...] #;^) -- I'Khala ikhala@msu.edu 308 Computer Laboratory ikhala@pager.msu.edu Michigan State University http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala East Lansing, MI 48824 +1.517.355.4500 x.151 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 7:55:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6489114F52 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29605 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:55:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20306 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:55:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA37734 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:55:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:54:56 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: What should go into /usr/lib/aout ? Message-ID: <19990604165456.A31029@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since the aout libs are installed into /usr/lib/compat/aout, shouldn't we remove the /usr/lib/aout directory from the BSD.usr.dist file and from /etc/rc? Or are there things which are being installed there and I only don't know about them? -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 8:49:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pollux.sdata.de (pollux.sdata.de [193.30.133.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1A2153BC for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Received: from sdata.de (vega.sdata.de [193.30.133.36]) by pollux.sdata.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA44316; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:49:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Message-ID: <3757F57B.AE8A68B8@sdata.de> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:49:15 +0200 From: Christoph Splittgerber Organization: sdata - C. Splittgerber Datentechnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Koen Schreel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? References: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> <3756F682.9CA5E2B3@sdata.de> <3757A071.422E1984@wtb.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Koen Schreel wrote: > > Same for me on a P2B-DS with a build made yesterday. Has been this way Yes, I have the same motherboard; - maybe this is motherboard related. Can somebody with a different SMP-motherboard verify this ? Christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 9: 3:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F70914DCE for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:03:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.135] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 10pwR3-0007KK-00; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:03:09 -0400 Content-Length: 701 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3757F57B.AE8A68B8@sdata.de> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:03:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Christoph Splittgerber Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Koen Schreel Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Jun-99 Christoph Splittgerber wrote: > Koen Schreel wrote: >> >> Same for me on a P2B-DS with a build made yesterday. Has been this >> way > > Yes, I have the same motherboard; - maybe this is motherboard > related. > Can somebody with a different SMP-motherboard verify this ? I have an ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D with SMP (dual P100s) at home. Running 3.1 it works fine. CPU usage is correctly reported, and I have not detected any problems with this motherboard and FreeBSD. Patrick --- Patrick S. Gardella Director of Web Development The Creative Group 1-800-804-0783 ext 29 606-858-8029 (fax) http://www.cre8tivegroup.com PGP Key ID 0xEE2D47A9 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 10:15:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (unknown [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FEB214C3D for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17307; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:10:06 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world fails for 3X-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I installed 2.2.7 using the CDs and all was fine. Then, I wanted to upgrade to the latest 3x-STABLE. I used tag=RELENG_3 , I am not sure which stable it will pick up. As per the web docs, it should pick up the latest STABLE version. Did I pick something else? Also doing a grep on the source code for version number contrib/cvs/src/cvsbug.sh:VERSION=3.2 So, I guess I did pick up 3.2 (which had a RELEASE recently, so which is the latest STABLE version? The web site and announcements have the 3.2-RELEASE all over, and the "how to track stable" page has the cvsup.conf file to use, says to use tag=RELENG_3 Please Help!! (CC me on the reply as well) Thanks a lot in advance, and please be kind to overlook my mistakes. Shashi Joshi Here is what I did: 1. cvsup-stable.conf file is as follows --> ##====================================== *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default delete *default use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all doc-all ##====================================== 2. % cvsup -g -L2 cvsup-stable.conf > OUTFILE 3. The head and tail of the output is as follows: ## === Start of output ==== Parsing supfile "cvsup-stable.conf" Looking up address of cvsup.freebsd.org Connecting to cvsup.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.freebsd.org Server software version: REL_16_0 Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs ... Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/slips.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/stable.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/submitters.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/sup.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/synching.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/term.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/uart.sgml Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/userppp.sgml Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully ## === End of output ==== 4. % cd /usr/src % make world > OUTFILE 5. The output of make world are as follows (head and tail) === begin output ==== -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> elf make world started on Thu Jun 3 09:07:16 EDT 1999 -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Making make -------------------------------------------------------------- mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make ... [snip] ... -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 bootstrap-libraries cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GTAGS cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:32: section attributes are not supported for this target /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:33: section attributes are not supported for this target {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:68: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. === End of output === -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 10:52:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64E614C01 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id UAA63484; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:43:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:43:27 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world fails for 3X-stable Message-ID: <19990604204327.A61832@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Shashi Joshi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com>; from Shashi Joshi on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:10:06PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try searching mailing list archives. It has been discussed about 100 times. You should use ``make upgrade'' to jump from 2.2.x to 3.x. Read the /usr/src/Makefile for details. On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:10:06PM -0400, Shashi Joshi wrote: > > Hi, > I installed 2.2.7 using the CDs and all was fine. > Then, I wanted to upgrade to the latest 3x-STABLE. > I used tag=RELENG_3 , I am not sure which stable it will pick up. As per > the web docs, it should pick up the latest STABLE version. Did I pick > something else? Also doing a grep on the source code for version number > contrib/cvs/src/cvsbug.sh:VERSION=3.2 > > So, I guess I did pick up 3.2 (which had a RELEASE recently, so which is > the latest STABLE version? The web site and announcements have the > 3.2-RELEASE all over, and the "how to track stable" page has the cvsup.conf > file to use, says to use tag=RELENG_3 > > Please Help!! (CC me on the reply as well) > Thanks a lot in advance, and please be kind to overlook my mistakes. > > Shashi Joshi > > Here is what I did: > > 1. cvsup-stable.conf file is as follows --> > ##====================================== > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 > *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default delete > *default use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > doc-all > ##====================================== > > 2. % cvsup -g -L2 cvsup-stable.conf > OUTFILE > > 3. The head and tail of the output is as follows: > > ## === Start of output ==== > Parsing supfile "cvsup-stable.conf" > Looking up address of cvsup.freebsd.org > Connecting to cvsup.freebsd.org > Connected to cvsup.freebsd.org > Server software version: REL_16_0 > Negotiating file attribute support > Exchanging collection information > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection > Running > Updating collection src-all/cvs > > ... > > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/slips.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/stable.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/submitters.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/sup.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/synching.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/term.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/uart.sgml > Delete doc/ja_JP.EUC/handbook/userppp.sgml > Shutting down connection to server > Finished successfully > ## === End of output ==== > > 4. % cd /usr/src > % make world > OUTFILE > > 5. The output of make world are as follows (head and tail) > > === begin output ==== > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> elf make world started on Thu Jun 3 09:07:16 EDT 1999 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Cleaning up the temporary elf build tree > -------------------------------------------------------------- > mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp > chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/ > rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Making make > -------------------------------------------------------------- > mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/make > > ... [snip] ... > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Rebuilding bootstrap libraries > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/libexec /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp -f Makefile.inc1 bootstrap-libraries > cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED cleandepend; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED all; /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -B install cleandir obj > rm -f .depend /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GPATH /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GRTAGS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GSYMS /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/GTAGS > cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crt1.c -o crt1.o > cc -O -pipe -elf -Wall -fkeep-inline-functions -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c -o crtbegin.o > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:32: section attributes are not supported for this target > /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/crtbegin.c:33: section attributes are not supported for this target > {standard input}: Assembler messages: > {standard input}:68: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.section' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > === End of output === > > -- > Shashi Joshi > _____________________________________________________________________ > __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one > _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every > (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 11:18:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0762715432 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA18314; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:05:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: Ken Lui Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high References: <199905272049.NAA07270@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 04 Jun 1999 20:05:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: Ken Lui's message of "Thu, 27 May 1999 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ken Lui writes: > I have a problem with FreeBSD 3.2 and my AMD K6-2 at 333MHz. It randomly > reboots while the CPU usage is high. Sometimes, it does so during a > compilation (but never done it when I recompiled the kernel) or when > Communicator is requested to open a link within a new window. There is > no entry in /var/log/messages. The symptom shows up as the whole machine > is wedged for 5-10 seconds then my machine reboots. What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 11:22: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pollux.sdata.de (pollux.sdata.de [193.30.133.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990A115AD4 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Received: from sdata.de (vega.sdata.de [193.30.133.36]) by pollux.sdata.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA44726; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:20:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cs@sdata.de) Message-ID: <37581908.76DF506C@sdata.de> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 20:20:56 +0200 From: Christoph Splittgerber Organization: sdata - C. Splittgerber Datentechnik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? References: <19990603104448.24898.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> <3756F682.9CA5E2B3@sdata.de> <3757A071.422E1984@wtb.tue.nl> <3757F57B.AE8A68B8@sdata.de> <14167.63562.830344.476388@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ wrote: > Other than that wierd problem with 'top' does SMP work OK on the P2B-DS? I > bought this motherboard about 2 months ago. I only have one PII in it now > but was planning on putting the other in sometime towards the end of the > summer. > > Do you think it's some thing with top, kernel data structures, or do you > believe the 2nd CPU is slowly being "shut off" (i.e. can you do something > really intense like "make -j 2 buildworld" w/ and w/o SMP and measure the > wall-clock time?). > > What BIOS do you have loaded in there. I recently upgraded to BIOS 1009 > (which contains an upgrade of adaptec's scsi bios to v2.11) and it helped > me actually install 3.1-RELEASE on this box (haven't had time to CVSup to > 3.2-STABLE yet). > John, I really don't know about the source of the problem. It's just the %CPU and %WCPU that decrease to 0.00 a short while after booting. The process time is accumulated ok I think. Yes, I'm sure that both CPU's are running - I have 2 "setiathome jobs" (see http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu) niced at -19 running all the time in the background. These jobs are absolutely cpu intensive and take 100% of the CPU if they can. One job finishes in about 10h, 2 jobs also finish in about 10h and in top I see the run state changes between RUN, CPU0, CPU1. I recognized one other strange behaviour: If I have these to seti jobs running disk access becomes very slow - even if I "idprio" them down as far as possible. A simple "ls -ls" may take a couple of seconds in a directory with only 100 entries. If I stop just one of the background jobs, disk access is fast as ever. I don't see this on my other single-cpu FreeBSD machines, they all run a seti-job in the background and besides taking some memory they don't slow down anything when running at nice -19. However, all single-cpu hosts have a AHA2940(UW) controller, so maybe this is specific to the aic7890/91 chipset and not a SMP problem at all. The BIOS here is Rev. 1008 (I think) so maybe I should get an update. However, besides these two minor problems, the machine runs without any problems since 2 month now. Christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 11:36:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (ip-46-094.guate.net [200.12.46.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2288014CFD for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obonilla@voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu) Received: (from obonilla@localhost) by voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06927; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:25:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from obonilla) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:25:44 -0600 From: Oscar Bonilla To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Ken Lui , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Lui Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Message-ID: <19990604122543.F5343@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <199905272049.NAA07270@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 08:05:08PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 08:05:08PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Ken Lui writes: > > I have a problem with FreeBSD 3.2 and my AMD K6-2 at 333MHz. It randomly > > reboots while the CPU usage is high. Sometimes, it does so during a > > compilation (but never done it when I recompiled the kernel) or when > > Communicator is requested to open a link within a new window. There is > > no entry in /var/log/messages. The symptom shows up as the whole machine > > is wedged for 5-10 seconds then my machine reboots. > > What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? is there a problem with VIA chipsets? I was about to buy a new computer and I think it has a VIA chipset... thanks, -Oscar > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 11:40:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C762114BCD for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klui@cup.hp.com) Received: from cup44ux.cup.hp.com (klui@cup44ux.cup.hp.com [15.13.168.124]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id LAA07879 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from klui@localhost) by cup44ux.cup.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id LAA18374; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Lui Message-Id: <199906041836.LAA18374@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high To: des@flood.ping.uio.no (Dag-Erling Smorgrav) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dag-Erling Smorgrav" at Jun 4, 99 08:05:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From des@flood.ping.uio.no Fri Jun 4 11:09:54 PDT 1999 > > no entry in /var/log/messages. The symptom shows up as the whole machine > > is wedged for 5-10 seconds then my machine reboots. > What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? It's an ALi Aladdin V chipset. Like I said in a previous post, solved my problem changing CAS Latency from Auto to 3. Most likely due to mixing PC100 SDRAM and non-PC100 SDRAM. Ken -- Ken Lui 19111 Pruneridge Avenue klui@cup.hp.com Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Information Solutions & Services 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.0218 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 11:55:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.clientlogic.com (ns.clientlogic.com [207.51.66.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79F514CFD for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:55:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChrisMic@clientlogic.com) Received: by site0s1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105956@site2s1> From: Christopher Michaels To: 'Oscar Bonilla' Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:57:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nothing major. To quote AMD, the VIA chipset has some bus-mastering deficiencies. I currently have 3 computers with VIA chipsets and have no problems at all. As a matter of fact, my FreeBSD machine is very stable. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Oscar Bonilla [SMTP:obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 2:26 PM > To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav > Cc: Ken Lui; stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Ken Lui > Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high > > On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 08:05:08PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Ken Lui writes: > > > I have a problem with FreeBSD 3.2 and my AMD K6-2 at 333MHz. It > randomly > > > reboots while the CPU usage is high. Sometimes, it does so during a > > > compilation (but never done it when I recompiled the kernel) or when > > > Communicator is requested to open a link within a new window. There is > > > no entry in /var/log/messages. The symptom shows up as the whole > machine > > > is wedged for 5-10 seconds then my machine reboots. > > > > What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? > > is there a problem with VIA chipsets? I was about to buy a new computer > and > I think it has a VIA chipset... > > thanks, > > -Oscar > > > > > DES > > -- > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 12:19: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uven.ru (uven.ru [62.76.35.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AC515141 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: from ns.ulstu.ru (root@ns.ulstu.ru [62.76.34.36]) by uven.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26510 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:18:35 +0400 (MSD) Received: from hq.spc.high ([195.151.42.229]) by ns.ulstu.ru (8.8.5-MVC-230198/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA10588 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:18:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad@high.net.ru) Received: (from vlad@localhost) by hq.spc.high (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02413 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:57:43 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vlad) From: Vlad Skvortsov Message-Id: <199906041357.RAA02413@hq.spc.high> Subject: lpt driver is not in -stable ? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:57:42 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrading to 3.2-stable (from 2.2 branch) it appeared that my parallel printer doesn't repond. I've checked my kernel config file: % grep -C lpt ZKERNEL controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? # ls -l /dev/lpt0 crw------- 1 root wheel 16, 0 4 ÉĀÎ 16:45 /dev/lpt0 # lptcontrol -i lptcontrol: open: Device not configured After rebuilding kernel from scratch (make clean && make depend && make && make install - even this way) and booting with -c, ls (in config mode) doesn't show lpt driver at all ! Although I have not ever been hacking or watching kernel code, the following took my attention: % cd /sys/i386/conf/ % grep 'lpt\|Id' files.i386 # $Id: files.i386,v 1.220.2.8 1999/05/27 03:06:33 julian Exp $ i386/isa/lpt.c optional olpt device-driver Looks like there is no reference to actual driver ? -- Vlad Skvortsov, vss@ulstu.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 12:25:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB740153E4 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA17798 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:20:54 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906041920.UAA17798@ideaglobal.com> Subject: vinum disk has gone AWOL, help! To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:20:53 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Sorry if this is more appropriate for -questions...) after my last reboot, which was NOT a panic or anything like that my vinum volume sort of disappeared... vinum itself is still happy, and a listing shows all my bits & pieces, up to the volume level as OK. however, mount/fsck attempts come up with errors like this: # fsck /dev/vinum/rmassive ** /dev/vinum/rmassive BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG /dev/vinum/rmassive: NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused) _I_ havent touched anything, so it seems like something really bad has happened. Can anyone suggest a way/hack to recover the damn disk? Its a desperete situation :-(), so even desperate suggestion will be appreciated. (i.e., is it possible to hack a 'label' or an 'id' or something back into the disk. when a dd from the raw device, i do see something that looks like the root directory of the disk, so its not as if everything was lost -uname- (If it makes any difference) FreeBSD loki 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 1 18:59:38 GMT 1999 root@loki:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOKI i386 TIA Kiril To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 12:30:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nightfly.apk.net (nightfly.apk.net [207.54.149.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46EB015422 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rme@nightfly.apk.net) Received: (qmail 60121 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jun 1999 19:30:31 -0000 To: Vlad Skvortsov Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lpt driver is not in -stable ? References: <199906041357.RAA02413@hq.spc.high> X-Attribution: rme From: rme@nightfly.apk.net (R. Matthew Emerson) Date: 04 Jun 1999 15:30:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: Vlad Skvortsov's message of "Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:57:42 +0400 (MSD)" Message-ID: <87k8tjix0o.fsf@nightfly.apk.net> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vlad Skvortsov writes: > > controller ppbus0 > device lpt0 at ppbus? > You need at least these three lines: device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? > Although I have not ever been hacking or watching kernel code, the > following took my attention: > > % cd /sys/i386/conf/ > % grep 'lpt\|Id' files.i386 > # $Id: files.i386,v 1.220.2.8 1999/05/27 03:06:33 julian Exp $ > i386/isa/lpt.c optional olpt device-driver > > Looks like there is no reference to actual driver ? No; lpt is no longer i386-specific. You'll find the reference to the lpt driver in /sys/conf/files. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 12:48:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9B315449 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: (from shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18850; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:48:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990604124844.D20000@cpl.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:48:44 -0700 From: Shawn Ramsey To: Christopher Michaels , "'Oscar Bonilla'" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high References: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105956@site2s1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93i In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB4401105956@site2s1>; from Christopher Michaels on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 02:57:08PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Nothing major. To quote AMD, the VIA chipset has some bus-mastering > deficiencies. I currently have 3 computers with VIA chipsets and have no > problems at all. As a matter of fact, my FreeBSD machine is very stable. I've got one AMD box with I think a K6-2/300 that has a motherboard with a FIC chipset. Its very stable, and crashing is very rare. In fact, the only times I remember it crashing were when a harddrive was going bad... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 12:59:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [209.167.225.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1B715B0F for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA09540; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:52:24 -0400 (EDT) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14168.11895.31539.234247@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:52:23 -0400 (EDT) To: Oscar Bonilla Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Ken Lui , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Lui Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high In-Reply-To: <19990604122543.F5343@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <199905272049.NAA07270@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> <19990604122543.F5343@fisicc-ufm.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Oscar" == Oscar Bonilla writes: Oscar> is there a problem with VIA chipsets? I was about to buy a new Oscar> computer and I think it has a VIA chipset... We've had strange performance problems with late-model VIA chipsets. Dave. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 13: 1:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fly.lglobus.ru (fly.lglobus.ru [195.34.224.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A7C15B7E for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rover@fly.lglobus.ru) Received: (from rover@localhost) by fly.lglobus.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA39506; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:29:12 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rover) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:29:12 +0400 From: "Oleg V. Volkov" To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world fails for 3X-stable Message-ID: <19990605012912.B39430@fly.lglobus.ru> Reply-To: fs_rover@lglobus.ru References: <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com>; from Shashi Joshi on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:10:06PM -0400 Organization: -=/ SR 13 /=- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 01:10:06PM -0400, Shashi Joshi wrote: > Hi, > I installed 2.2.7 using the CDs and all was fine. > Then, I wanted to upgrade to the latest 3x-STABLE. > I used tag=RELENG_3 , I am not sure which stable it will pick up. As per > the web docs, it should pick up the latest STABLE version. Did I pick > something else? Also doing a grep on the source code for version number > contrib/cvs/src/cvsbug.sh:VERSION=3.2 > So, I guess I did pick up 3.2 (which had a RELEASE recently, so which is > the latest STABLE version? The web site and announcements have the > 3.2-RELEASE all over, and the "how to track stable" page has the cvsup.conf > file to use, says to use tag=RELENG_3 > Please Help!! (CC me on the reply as well) > Thanks a lot in advance, and please be kind to overlook my mistakes. Yes, that's right - you got 3.2-STABLE, lastest STABLE around. Every RELEASE continues to live as STABLE until it becomes new RELEASE. Now about second problem - read comments in /usr/src/Makefile and documents on web about making upgrade from 2.X.X to 3.X. In short, you should use "make aout-to-elf" first. Also easiest way to upgrade is to install 3.2-RELEASE bin distribution first (~30Mb) and then cvsup and continue tracking as usualy... -- Oleg V. Volkov aka Rover E-mail: rover@lglobus.ru E-mail redirector: sr-13@mail.ru (always up) -=/ SR 13 /=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 13:14:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0840014D47 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id NAA08599; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:14:41 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08597; Fri Jun 4 13:14:30 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA49261; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906042014.NAA49261@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdf49251; Fri Jun 4 13:13:41 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Kiril Mitev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum disk has gone AWOL, help! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jun 1999 20:20:53 BST." <199906041920.UAA17798@ideaglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:13:41 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try fsck -b 32 . If that fails, try fsck -b . To get the other block numbers for alternate superblocks, use newfs -N, which will go through all of the motions of creating a filesystem, e.g. print the superblock numbers, without actually creating a filesystem. If this fails, you're pretty much hosed. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <199906041920.UAA17798@ideaglobal.com>, Kiril Mitev writes: > (Sorry if this is more appropriate for -questions...) > > > after my last reboot, which was NOT a panic or anything like that > my vinum volume sort of disappeared... > > vinum itself is still happy, and a listing shows all my > bits & pieces, up to the volume level as OK. > > however, mount/fsck attempts come up with > errors like this: > > # fsck /dev/vinum/rmassive > ** /dev/vinum/rmassive > BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG > /dev/vinum/rmassive: NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused) > > _I_ havent touched anything, so it seems like something really > bad has happened. > > Can anyone suggest a way/hack to recover the damn disk? Its > a desperete situation :-(), so even desperate suggestion > will be appreciated. (i.e., is it possible to hack a 'label' > or an 'id' or something back into the disk. > > when a dd from the raw device, i do see something that looks > like the root directory of the disk, so its not > as if everything was lost > > > -uname- (If it makes any difference) > > FreeBSD loki 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 1 18:59:38 GMT 1999 > root@loki:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOKI i386 > > > TIA > > Kiril > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 14: 3:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ideaglobal.com (ultra2.ideaglobal.com [194.36.20.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A383E14E73 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiril@ideaglobal.com) Received: (from kiril@localhost) by ideaglobal.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA19464; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:58:07 +0100 (BST) From: Kiril Mitev Message-Id: <199906042058.VAA19464@ideaglobal.com> Subject: Re: vinum disk has gone AWOL, help! To: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:58:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: kiril@ideaglobal.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906042014.NAA49261@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> from "Cy Schubert" at Jun 4, 99 01:13:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That looks like it might actually fix it, unless there more corruption somewhere thanks, thanks, thanks Kiril > > Try fsck -b 32 . > > If that fails, try fsck -b . To get > the other block numbers for alternate superblocks, use newfs -N, > which will go through all of the motions of creating a filesystem, > e.g. print the superblock numbers, without actually creating a > filesystem. If this fails, you're pretty much hosed. > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Province of BC > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > In message <199906041920.UAA17798@ideaglobal.com>, Kiril Mitev > writes: > > (Sorry if this is more appropriate for -questions...) > > > > > > after my last reboot, which was NOT a panic or anything like that > > my vinum volume sort of disappeared... > > > > vinum itself is still happy, and a listing shows all my > > bits & pieces, up to the volume level as OK. > > > > however, mount/fsck attempts come up with > > errors like this: > > > > # fsck /dev/vinum/rmassive > > ** /dev/vinum/rmassive > > BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG > > /dev/vinum/rmassive: NOT LABELED AS A BSD FILE SYSTEM (unused) > > > > _I_ havent touched anything, so it seems like something really > > bad has happened. > > > > Can anyone suggest a way/hack to recover the damn disk? Its > > a desperete situation :-(), so even desperate suggestion > > will be appreciated. (i.e., is it possible to hack a 'label' > > or an 'id' or something back into the disk. > > > > when a dd from the raw device, i do see something that looks > > like the root directory of the disk, so its not > > as if everything was lost > > > > > > -uname- (If it makes any difference) > > > > FreeBSD loki 3.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 1 18:59:38 GMT 1999 > > root@loki:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOKI i386 > > > > > > TIA > > > > Kiril > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 20:59:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (SHIFT-F1.COM [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E76D14CB7 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA24515; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:54:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990604235414.A24459@WEBSI.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:54:14 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Jonathan Delgado Subject: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? References: ; <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com> <19990604134412.A17496@WEBSI.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan Delgado on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 02:32:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, Thanks all who helped me even though my question was really stupid (now in retrospect). I was able to do the compile of the aout to elf upgrade but am facing a strange problem. To recap, I had a 2.2.7-STABLE and was upgrading to a 3.2-STABLE. I did a cvsup and got all the new source. Then I did a % make aout-to-elf-build # all went okay % make aout-to-elf-install # error as below this gave error when it wanted to do a mv /kernel /kernel.old and I pressed RETURN. It terminated with error since the kernel was chflaged. So i unlocked the kernel and did a % make aout-to-elf-install again. This time, it installed fully ( I guess, for I was not watching) but it rebooted itself (so I guess it went okay). The problem now is that at login prompt I am trying the root login and the passwd seems to have changed!!! I tried a userid/passwd other than root too. None works. I am not able to log in or look at the passwd file. At boot time just before the first login: prompt I do see some missing /usr/.../ld.so ?? That is all. I tried to boot from 2.2.7 CD and do a fixit, but it is not helping since I guess I have elf binaries on the HD now. Does anyone know what I can do without reinstalling on the current HDs, since I have some files I don't want to lose. Did anyone else face this problem of passwd being changed?? Or is the login program messed up? I have a Pentium 200 II MMX (Gateway), had the 2.2.7 running all just too fine for 3-4 months. Thanks in advance for your patience. (CC me on the reply) -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 4 21:58:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fly.lglobus.ru (fly.lglobus.ru [195.34.224.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BA014F4A for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rover@fly.lglobus.ru) Received: (from rover@localhost) by fly.lglobus.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA42658; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:51:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from rover) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:51:50 +0400 From: "Oleg V. Volkov" To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? Message-ID: <19990605095150.A66730@fly.lglobus.ru> Reply-To: fs_rover@lglobus.ru References: ; <19990604131006.A16523@WEBSI.com> <19990604134412.A17496@WEBSI.com> <19990604235414.A24459@WEBSI.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19990604235414.A24459@WEBSI.com>; from Shashi Joshi on Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 11:54:14PM -0400 Organization: -=/ SR 13 /=- Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 11:54:14PM -0400, Shashi Joshi wrote: > Hi guys, > Thanks all who helped me even though my question was really stupid (now in > retrospect). I was able to do the compile of the aout to elf upgrade but am > facing a strange problem. Got same problem back then... It's why i said that installing bin distribution is easier in previous letter... Now about recovering: just reinstall bin distribution from any 2.2.X-RELEASE CD and you'll be all set. -- Oleg V. 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In-Reply-To: <19990604235414.A24459@WEBSI.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! > retrospect). I was able to do the compile of the aout to elf upgrade but am > facing a strange problem. > > To recap, I had a 2.2.7-STABLE and was upgrading to a 3.2-STABLE. I did a > cvsup and got all the new source. > > The problem now is that at login prompt I am trying the root login and the > passwd seems to have changed!!! I tried a userid/passwd other than root > too. None works. I am not able to log in or look at the > passwd file. At boot time just before the first login: prompt I do see some > missing /usr/.../ld.so ?? That is all. As for the missing linker, I do not know. But when I upgraded from 3.1-RELEASE to -STABLE, the same error occured with passwords. (Note, that it did not reoccur when upgrading to 3.2-RELEASE, though.) It looks that the passwd file was somehow tampered with because all accounts were deleted, and reset, i.e. root existed but with no password. So I could log in through that and recreate the users. Maybe it will work for you. It was not fun, though. I hope someone might have found a better way. Since the problem did not come up any more, I was not thinking of it lately. Reinstalling from 2.2.X CD-s is not a good idea IMHO, because that in effect undoes the changes you made... > > Thanks in advance for your patience. (CC me on the reply) > > -- > Shashi Joshi > _____________________________________________________________________ > __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one > _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every > (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 2:59:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as1-009.rp-plus.de [149.221.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1346114E5A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13106; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:17:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00672; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:17:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:17:55 +0200 To: Oscar Bonilla Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Ken Lui , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Lui Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Message-ID: <19990605111755.B554@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <199905272049.NAA07270@cup44ux.cup.hp.com> <19990604122543.F5343@fisicc-ufm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990604122543.F5343@fisicc-ufm.edu> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Oscar Bonilla (obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu): > > What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? > is there a problem with VIA chipsets? I was about to buy a new computer and > I think it has a VIA chipset... I have a K6-2-300 on a VIA Super Sockel 7 Board (DFI), and when I've been in X some weeks ago, I had such a reboot, when opening a Netscape window, too. Maybe it's really a VIA Problem. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 4:33:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1828014C88 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 04:33:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-143-253.s62.as3.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.143.253]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28994; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906051127.HAA28994@smtp1.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990605111755.B554@cichlids.cichlids.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:27:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Alexander Langer Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Cc: Ken Lui , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Lui , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Oscar Bonilla Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Jun-99 Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Oscar Bonilla (obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu): > >> > What chipset is on your motherboard? VIA? >> is there a problem with VIA chipsets? I was about to buy a new computer and >> I think it has a VIA chipset... > > I have a K6-2-300 on a VIA Super Sockel 7 Board (DFI), and when I've > been in X some weeks ago, I had such a reboot, when opening a Netscape > window, too. > Maybe it's really a VIA Problem. I have the following: CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (300.68-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62124032 (60668K bytes) ... chip0: rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x41 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x06 on pci0.7.1 chip3: rev 0x10 on pci0.7.3 and I have never had a reboot. I have hit the limit of my swap when running too many things (especially X, Netscape, the Gimp, and AOL's TiK, which has a memory leak) and watched X curl up and die because it got killed due to the lack of swap, but that is normal behavior, as the alternative is to lock up. I also have the following CPU-specific options in my kernel: # CPU options options "NO_F00F_HACK" #not a iPentium options CPU_WT_ALLOC #enable write-back allocation options NO_MEMORY_HOLE It probably won't make a difference, but it might. If it does, then that would help narrow down the bug. > Alex --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 5:40:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E72D14D68 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:40:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA23035; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37591AC9.B7C29EB2@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:40:41 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Szilveszter Cc: Shashi Joshi , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jonathan Delgado Subject: Re: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Adam Szilveszter wrote: > > > > The problem now is that at login prompt I am trying the root login and the > > passwd seems to have changed!!! I tried a userid/passwd other than root > > too. None works. I am not able to log in or look at the > > passwd file. At boot time just before the first login: prompt I do see some > > missing /usr/.../ld.so ?? That is all. Can't you boot into single user mode and correct the passwords that way? When you get that message "booting in ... seconds" press a key, then type boot -s. I recall having a similar problem when upgrading. I think it was because the password authentication method changed, so the encrypted passwords were the same, but they meant something entirely different. I caught it before rebooting - now after any major change to the OS or password file, I always test it first before rebooting. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 5:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from storm.twcol.com (storm.twcol.com [204.210.251.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1629614D68 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dzerkel@columbus.rr.com) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp219142.columbus.rr.com [208.169.219.142]) by storm.twcol.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26117 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37591E90.2FD85193@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:56:48 -0400 From: "Danny J. Zerkel" Organization: Zerkular Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: Russian, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/10411: top, vmstat, iostat show 0% cpu idle & usage on SMP system Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe, Do you have apm configured in your kernel? If so, try: device apm0 at isa? flags 0x20 So far, this seems to correct it. When I started digging around, I found that the stat clock had been disabled. The only thing that can disable it is apm, but the test looks backwards to me: *** /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c: line 946: cpu_initclocks() { int diag; #ifdef APIC_IO int apic_8254_trial; #endif /* APIC_IO */ if (statclock_disable) { /* * The stat interrupt mask is different without the * statistics clock. Also, don't set the interrupt * flag which would normally cause the RTC to generate * interrupts. */ stat_imask = HWI_MASK | SWI_MASK; rtc_statusb = RTCSB_24HR; } else { /* Setting stathz to nonzero early helps avoid races. */ stathz = RTC_NOPROFRATE; profhz = RTC_PROFRATE; } The problem seems to be that the statclock gets disabled if statclock_disable ISN'T set. My stathz was set to RTC_NOPROFRATE, which disables collection of stats. > > After installing a MP kernel on my system I have noticed that the various > > system utilities that display cpu usage all report 0.0% for everything. > > The UP kernel does not have this problem and the MP kernel will work ok > > briefly after rebooting, until I apply a load (such as starting X or > > building a kernel). > > I am seeing this problem as well. > > ASUS P2B-DS, 2 x PII-400/512, disks moved from an HP Vectra XU/200 that > worked just fine. I was running a mildly modified 3.0R on the Vectra > which reported statistics correctly. Moving these to the P2B-DS broke, > for reasons unknown, since I have other P2B-DS's on 3.0R which report > statistics fine. > > I then upgraded the box to 3.1R since I thought maybe my mods were causing > the problem, but it is still broken. > > Oddly, it appears to work fine in single-user, although I didn't play with > it for more than a few minutes. > > More oddly, load average appears to report properly. > > If any bug whacker would like access to the box in question, it can be > arranged easily enough (its a games machine). I'd sure like to see a fix > for this. > > ... Joe -- Danny J. Zerkel dzerkel@columbus.rr.com "Sursum ad Absurdum" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 6:53:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (SHIFT-F1.COM [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8153214CE1 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 06:53:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29297; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:48:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990605094819.A29269@WEBSI.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:48:19 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? References: <37591AC9.B7C29EB2@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <37591AC9.B7C29EB2@math.missouri.edu>; from Stephen Montgomery-Smith on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 07:40:41AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stephen Montgomery-Smith worked magic with the keyboard on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 07:40:41AM -0500: > Adam Szilveszter wrote: > > > > > > The problem now is that at login prompt I am trying the root login and the > > > passwd seems to have changed!!! I tried a userid/passwd other than root > > > too. None works. I am not able to log in or look at the > > > passwd file. At boot time just before the first login: prompt I do see some > > > missing /usr/.../ld.so ?? That is all. > > Can't you boot into single user mode and correct the passwords that way? > When you get that message "booting in ... seconds" press a key, then type > boot -s. I tried that but it has the root partition in read only mode :-(( > I recall having a similar problem when upgrading. I think it was because > the password authentication method changed, so the encrypted passwords > were the same, but they meant something entirely different. I caught it > before rebooting - now after any major change to the OS or password file, > I always test it first before rebooting. Another explanation that may be correct is the shell of root. I had /bin/tcsh as the default shell for all accounts. I checked that the aout -> elf did NOT generate a new tcsh (since it is a port) so that is sitting in the aout format. I am doing a "UPGRADE" from the 2.2.7 CD of the "USER" (binaries and doc only) components, and hopefully that will succeed. Thanks for your input. -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 7: 7:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8596714D19 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA12474; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:07:29 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda12472; Sat Jun 5 07:07:09 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA17684; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906051407.HAA17684@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdO17671; Sat Jun 5 07:06:59 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: jacobsm@customersvc.com (Mark Jacobs) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] How stable is FreeBSD 3.X ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 08:43:07 EDT." <19990525124511140.AAA351@bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 07:06:58 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19990525124511140.AAA351@bc006429.tcs.timeinc.com>, Mark Jacobs wri tes: > > > > At 01:53 AM 5/25/99 , David Schwartz wrote: > > > > > > Have you stopped to consider that users may just want to _use_ FreeBSD > > >without having to follow the development? Have you considered that bad > > >releases affect them? This is yet another piece of the 'Open Source' versu > s > > >'company supported' puzzle. > > > > NT out of the box needs to be patched for performance and security reasons. > > No matter what OS you deploy, you must follow the development so to > > speak... Even if only for security reasons. Yes, it would be nice in a > > perfect world if this were not the case. > > > > ---Mike > > ********************************************************************** > > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > > Canada * > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > In my "real job" I am a MVS (now OS/390) systems programmer > responsible for maintaing an operating system and other related > program products. > > The software that ships out of the box (i.e. release) is obsolete > upon arrival. That is just a fact of life in a huge operating system. > Depending on how often I apply service, I could have many hundred > to many thousand software changes to apply. > > Users don't care about operating system changes, in fact they fight > them (why do we have to test?), but we as system administrators > are responsible for maintaining the best operating system we can, > and that requires work on our part. In my former life (over 7 years ago) as an MVS systems programmer, it was common to apply PUT tapes (patches) with over 12,000 PTF's (patches). IBM ships 8-9 PUT tapes per year, each with approximately 4,000 - 5,000 patches each. Add to that 20-30 USERMODS (my own modifications to MVS). I've worked at one site where we had 126 USERMODS. I'm currently running 3.2R with 6 patches (gleaned from the CVS tree) and 3 of my own modifications to the kernel. In my 25 year career, I've yet to see a perfect (unpatched) operating system. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 7: 9:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tankgrrl.bridget.mindriot.net (D5801.DIALUP.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.49.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B5714D19 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 07:09:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) Received: from localhost (cjc26@localhost) by tankgrrl.bridget.mindriot.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07016; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:08:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc26@cornell.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: tankgrrl.bridget.mindriot.net: cjc26 owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:08:50 +0000 (GMT) From: a disembodied voice emerging from the chaos of reality X-Sender: cjc26@tankgrrl To: Shashi Joshi Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? In-Reply-To: <19990605094819.A29269@WEBSI.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Shashi Joshi wrote: > > Can't you boot into single user mode and correct the passwords that way? > > When you get that message "booting in ... seconds" press a key, then type > > boot -s. > > I tried that but it has the root partition in read only mode :-(( Remount it as r/w by doing a 'mount -a' or 'mount -o rw,remount /' Cliff Crawford http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/cjc26/ -><- i l i k e o a t m e a l )O( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 8:37:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as5-003.rp-plus.de [149.221.239.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDE14CD4 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01212; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:28:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00527; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:28:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:28:36 +0200 To: John Baldwin Cc: Ken Lui , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Lui , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Oscar Bonilla Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboot while CPU usage is high Message-ID: <19990605172836.A496@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <19990605111755.B554@cichlids.cichlids.com> <199906051127.HAA28994@smtp1.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199906051127.HAA28994@smtp1.erols.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake John Baldwin (jobaldwi@vt.edu): [dmesg output] I have exactly the same. > and I have never had a reboot. I have hit the limit of my swap when running Yes. Iīve had *one* reboot. Only one time. It could also be, taht this was a electricy problem or whatever. I havenīt hat one of these again and I canīt reproduce it. > options "NO_F00F_HACK" #not a iPentium > options CPU_WT_ALLOC #enable write-back allocation > options NO_MEMORY_HOLE I donīt have these. Well - itīs my workstatin, my server is very stable (last 17 days uptime before I did the next make world)... But if I had a webserver under high last, I might decide to change to Linux in the time FreeBSD has some problems with this stability and change back to FreeBSD when itīs fixed. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 9: 0:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (tranq1.tranquility.net [206.156.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B406C14F1D for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (stephen.tranquility.net [206.156.230.78]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA27704; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375949AC.8B552A6C@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:00:44 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2.7 -> 3.2 STABLE upgrade changes root password??? References: <37591AC9.B7C29EB2@math.missouri.edu> <19990605094819.A29269@WEBSI.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shashi Joshi wrote: > > Another explanation that may be correct is the shell of root. I had > /bin/tcsh as the default shell for all accounts. I checked that the > aout -> elf did NOT generate a new tcsh (since it is a port) so > that is sitting in the aout format. > OK, I guess that at some time you did cp /usr/local/bin/tcsh /bin Did you also make sure that tcsh was statically linked? It is not so by default, so if it is not statically built, then if your /usr is not mounted, then tcsh won't work bacause it won't find the run time libraries. It is quite easy to build tcsh statically. cd /usr/ports/shells/tcsh/ make cd work/tcsh* rm tcsh sed "s/{CC} -o tcsh/{CC} -static -o tcsh/" < Makefile > MMM mv MMM Makefile make Now you have a statically built tcsh in your current directory. Well, I might not have done that the "correct" way. I would be interested to know. -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 10:57:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (web126.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78A0214E6A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:57:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alderete@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990605175807.21420.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.126.112.248] by web126.yahoomail.com; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:58:07 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael A. Alderete" Reply-To: michael@alderete.com Subject: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: alderete@be.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a FreeBSD-based web/ftp server that is crashing regularly, and the crashes are causing (caused by)file system corruption. I'm suspecting (and hoping) that it's just a configuration problem, or a known bug with an easy workaround. I'd hate to learn that there was something inherently wrong here! Here are the details, hopefully someone will recognize the issue: * The server hardware is an Intel N440BX motherboard, with two Intel Pentium III 450 processors. 256 megs of RAM. Built-in graphics, and a PCI NE2000 Ethernet card (the built-in EtherExpress interface wouldn't work for me, another story, another time). * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot standby. * FreeBSD is version 3.1-STABLE-05051999, with the kernel recompiled for SMP support. * The server worked fine for me as I was installing and upgrading it, adding and compiling additional software, uploading megabytes of data to the ftp directories, etc. * The server also had no difficulties when I sent out a company-internal e-mail with a request to bang on it. That's a load of about 30 users at any give time (http only, though). * We put it into production use as our main web server on Wednesday night. It handled quite a high load as people checked out the new site design. * Thursday night was the first crash, we don't know what caused it. The server rebooted, but fsck failed on /home, and so it didn't come up automatically. Manually running fsck fixed the errors, with a few files recovered to lost+found. * The next morning while examining the files in lost+found, doing a cp of one of the files, the server crashed again. This time it rebooted itself, found no file system problems, and came up. * Last night (Saturday at 5:30am, actually) it failed again. This time there are file system errors on /usr and /home. fsck fixed the problems on /usr and most of them on /home, but now we're getting an error about a bad sector. /home obviously refuses to mount. Anything known about problems in FreeBSD-STABLE with SMP configurations and RAID sub-systems? Or other obvious (or subtle) problems? Thanks much! Michael === --- Michael A. Alderete _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 11: 4:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (web125.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC99414E6A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alderete@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990605180849.23964.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.126.112.248] by web125.yahoomail.com; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:08:49 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael A. Alderete" Reply-To: alderete@yahoo.com Subject: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD 3.1 Server with file system corruption To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a FreeBSD-based web/ftp server that is crashing regularly, and the crashes are causing (caused by?)filesystem corruption. I'm suspecting (and hoping) that it's just a configuration problem, or a known bug with an easy workaround. I'd hate to learn that there was something inherently wrong here! Here are the details, hopefully someone will recognize the issue: * The server hardware is an Intel N440BX motherboard, with two Intel Pentium III 450 processors. 256 megs of RAM. Built-in graphics, and a PCI NE2000 Ethernet card (the built-in EtherExpress interface wouldn't work for me, another story, another time). * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot-standby. * FreeBSD is version 3.1-STABLE-05051999, with the kernel recompiled for SMP support and MAXUSERS=256. * The server worked fine for me as I was installing and upgrading it, adding and compiling additional software, uploading megabytes of data to the ftp directories, etc. * The server also had no difficulties when I sent out a company-internal e-mail with a request to bang on it. That's a load of about 30 users at any give time(http only, though). * We put it into production use as our main web server on Wednesday night. It handled quite a high load as people checked out the new site design. * Thursday night was the first crash, we don't know what caused it. The server rebooted, but fsck failed on /home, and so it didn't come up automatically. Manually running fsck fixed the errors, with a few files recovered to lost+found. * The next morning while examining the files in lost+found, doing a cp of one of the files, the server crashed again. This time it rebooted itself, found no file system problems, and came up. * Last night (Saturday at 5:30am, actually) it failed again. This time there are file system errors on /usr and /home. fsck fixed the problems on /usr and most of them on /home, but now we're getting an error about a bad sector. /home obviously refuses to mount. Anything known about problems in FreeBSD-STABLE with SMP configurations and RAID sub-systems? Or other obvious (or subtle) problems? Thanks much! Michael === --- Michael A. Alderete _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 11:15: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web125.yahoomail.com (web125.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92BEA14E6A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alderete@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990605181900.24793.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.126.112.248] by web125.yahoomail.com; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:19:00 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:19:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael A. Alderete" Reply-To: alderete@yahoo.com Subject: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD 3.1 server with file system corruption To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a FreeBSD-based web/ftp server that is crashing regularly, and the crashes are causing (causedby?)filesystem corruption. I'm suspecting (and hoping) that it's just a configuration problem, or a known bug with an easy workaround. I'd hate to learn that there was something inherently wrong here! Here are the details, hopefully someone will recognize the issue: * The server hardware is an Intel N440BX motherboard, with two Intel Pentium III 450 processors. 256 megs of RAM. Built-in graphics, and a PCI NE2000 Ethernet card (the built-in EtherExpress interface wouldn't work for me, another story, another time). * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as ahot-standby. * FreeBSD is version 3.1-STABLE-05051999, with the kernel recompiled for SMP support and MAXUSERS=256. * The server worked fine for me as I was installing and upgrading it, adding and compiling additional software, uploading megabytes of data to the ftp directories, etc. * The server also had no difficulties when I sent out a company-internal e-mail with a request to bang on it. That's a load of about 30 users at any given time(http only, though). * We put it into production use as our main web server on Wednesday night. It handled quite a high load as people checked out the new site design, and downloaded our latest beta archive. * Thursday night was the first crash, we don't know what caused it. The server rebooted, but fsck failed on /home, and so it didn't come up automatically. Manually running fsck fixed the errors, with a few files recovered to lost+found. * The next morning while examining the files in lost+found, doing a cp of one of the files, the server crashed again. This time it rebooted itself, found no file system problems, and came up. * Last night (Saturday at 5:30am, actually) it failed again. This time there are file system errors on /usr and /home. fsck fixed the problems on /usr and most of them on /home, but now we're getting an error about a bad sector. /home obviously refuses to mount. * In all of these cases, we see nothing in /var/log/messages to indicate what's going wrong. Presumably something happens to make it think it can't write to disk, and so it doesn't try to write to the log...? Even the directory change that caused second crash showed no evidence of being carried out: the directory datestamp remained unchanged, and the file copy did not exist when we rebooted. Anything known about problems in FreeBSD-STABLE with SMP configurations and RAID sub-systems? Or other obvious (or subtle) problems? Thanks much! Michael === --- Michael A. Alderete _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 11:35:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3414EBD; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn2221.bossig.com [208.26.242.221]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10289; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:35:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37596DB5.6AC67C88@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:34:29 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@3-cities.com Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alderete@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD 3.1 Server with file system corruption References: <19990605180849.23964.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stop clogging everyones mail boxes. One request is all you need. You have to wait until someone that knows about your type of problem reads their mail. Kent "Michael A. Alderete" wrote: > > I have a FreeBSD-based web/ftp server that is crashing > regularly, and the crashes are causing (caused > by?)filesystem corruption. > > I'm suspecting (and hoping) that it's just a > configuration problem, or a known bug with an easy > workaround. I'd hate to learn that there was something > inherently wrong here! > > Here are the details, hopefully someone will recognize > the issue: > > * The server hardware is an Intel N440BX motherboard, > with two Intel Pentium III 450 processors. 256 megs of > RAM. Built-in graphics, and a PCI NE2000 Ethernet card > (the built-in EtherExpress interface wouldn't work for > me, another story, another time). > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a > hot-standby. > > * FreeBSD is version 3.1-STABLE-05051999, with the > kernel recompiled for SMP support and MAXUSERS=256. > > * The server worked fine for me as I was installing > and upgrading it, adding and compiling additional > software, uploading megabytes of data to the ftp > directories, etc. > > * The server also had no difficulties when I sent out > a company-internal e-mail with a request to bang on > it. That's a load of about 30 users at any give > time(http only, though). > > * We put it into production use as our main web server > on Wednesday night. It handled quite a high load as > people checked out the new site design. > > * Thursday night was the first crash, we don't know > what caused it. The server rebooted, but fsck failed > on /home, and so it didn't come up automatically. > Manually running fsck fixed the errors, with a few > files recovered to lost+found. > > * The next morning while examining the files in > lost+found, doing a cp of one of the files, the server > crashed again. This time it rebooted itself, found no > file system problems, and came up. > > * Last night (Saturday at 5:30am, actually) it failed > again. This time there are file system errors on /usr > and /home. fsck fixed the problems on /usr and most of > them on /home, but now we're getting an error about a > bad sector. /home obviously refuses to mount. > > Anything known about problems in FreeBSD-STABLE with > SMP configurations and RAID sub-systems? Or other > obvious (or subtle) problems? > > Thanks much! > Michael > === > > --- > Michael A. Alderete > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 12:38:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B02D614F09 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10qMGs-00065q-00; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:38:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Michael A. Alderete" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD 3.1 Server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: <19990605180849.23964.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Michael A. Alderete wrote: (Non-details removed) > Here are the details, hopefully someone will recognize > the issue: > > * The server hardware is an Intel N440BX motherboard, > with two Intel Pentium III 450 processors. 256 megs of > RAM. Built-in graphics, and a PCI NE2000 Ethernet card > (the built-in EtherExpress interface wouldn't work for > me, another story, another time). FreeBSD was practically written to run on an etherexpress on those moterboard. If it doesn't work, your motherboard could be bad. > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a > hot-standby. > > * FreeBSD is version 3.1-STABLE-05051999, with the > kernel recompiled for SMP support and MAXUSERS=256. > > * The server worked fine for me as I was installing > and upgrading it, adding and compiling additional > software, uploading megabytes of data to the ftp > directories, etc. > > * The server also had no difficulties when I sent out > a company-internal e-mail with a request to bang on > it. That's a load of about 30 users at any give > time(http only, though). > > * We put it into production use as our main web server > on Wednesday night. It handled quite a high load as > people checked out the new site design. > > * Thursday night was the first crash, we don't know > what caused it. The server rebooted, but fsck failed > on /home, and so it didn't come up automatically. > Manually running fsck fixed the errors, with a few > files recovered to lost+found. Was it a panic, or just a silent reboot? Tip: fsck twice when asked of a manual fsck > * The next morning while examining the files in > lost+found, doing a cp of one of the files, the server > crashed again. This time it rebooted itself, found no > file system problems, and came up. > > * Last night (Saturday at 5:30am, actually) it failed > again. This time there are file system errors on /usr > and /home. fsck fixed the problems on /usr and most of > them on /home, but now we're getting an error about a > bad sector. /home obviously refuses to mount. An error about a bad sector? What kind of error exactly? If I get an error about a bad sector on a SCSI disk a production server, I send the drives back. Life is just too short to mess around with junk. I'm assuming that your drives have auto read/write re-allocation turned on already. > Anything known about problems in FreeBSD-STABLE with > SMP configurations and RAID sub-systems? Or other > obvious (or subtle) problems? > > Thanks much! > Michael > === > > --- > Michael A. Alderete > > > Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 15:49:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (madrugada.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B571152DF for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:49:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aflury@madrugada.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (aflury@localhost) by madrugada.nas.nasa.gov (8.9.3/NAS8.8.7n) with ESMTP id PAA13811; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906052249.PAA13811@madrugada.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Danny J. Zerkel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, holtor@yahoo.com Subject: Re: kern/10411: top, vmstat, iostat show 0% cpu idle & usage on SMP system In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:56:48 EDT." <37591E90.2FD85193@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:49:29 -0700 From: "Andrew W. Flury" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, this problem also exists if you have APM enabled in your BIOS setup but not enabled in your kernel. Disabling it in the BIOS is one way to fix it (it's enabled on ASUS P2B boards by default). > Joe, > > Do you have apm configured in your kernel? If so, try: > > device apm0 at isa? flags 0x20 > > So far, this seems to correct it. > > When I started digging around, I found that the stat clock had been > disabled. > The only thing that can disable it is apm, but the test looks backwards > to me: > > *** /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c: > line 946: > cpu_initclocks() > { > int diag; > #ifdef APIC_IO > int apic_8254_trial; > #endif /* APIC_IO */ > > if (statclock_disable) { > /* > * The stat interrupt mask is different without the > * statistics clock. Also, don't set the interrupt > * flag which would normally cause the RTC to generate > * interrupts. > */ > stat_imask = HWI_MASK | SWI_MASK; > rtc_statusb = RTCSB_24HR; > } else { > /* Setting stathz to nonzero early helps avoid races. */ > stathz = RTC_NOPROFRATE; > profhz = RTC_PROFRATE; > } > > The problem seems to be that the statclock gets disabled if > statclock_disable > ISN'T set. My stathz was set to RTC_NOPROFRATE, which disables > collection > of stats. > > > > After installing a MP kernel on my system I have noticed that the various > > > system utilities that display cpu usage all report 0.0% for everything. > > > The UP kernel does not have this problem and the MP kernel will work ok > > > briefly after rebooting, until I apply a load (such as starting X or > > > building a kernel). > > > > I am seeing this problem as well. > > > > ASUS P2B-DS, 2 x PII-400/512, disks moved from an HP Vectra XU/200 that > > worked just fine. I was running a mildly modified 3.0R on the Vectra > > which reported statistics correctly. Moving these to the P2B-DS broke, > > for reasons unknown, since I have other P2B-DS's on 3.0R which report > > statistics fine. > > > > I then upgraded the box to 3.1R since I thought maybe my mods were causing > > the problem, but it is still broken. > > > > Oddly, it appears to work fine in single-user, although I didn't play with > > it for more than a few minutes. > > > > More oddly, load average appears to report properly. > > > > If any bug whacker would like access to the box in question, it can be > > arranged easily enough (its a games machine). I'd sure like to see a fix > > for this. > > > > ... Joe > > -- Danny J. Zerkel > dzerkel@columbus.rr.com > "Sursum ad Absurdum" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 16:14:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (web126.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35A7D14C08 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990605231453.17847.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.62.2] by web126.yahoomail.com; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 16:14:53 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Holtor Subject: Re: kern/10411: top, vmstat, iostat show 0% cpu idle & usage on SMP system To: "Andrew W. Flury" , "Danny J. Zerkel" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, holtor@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone tried enabling apm0 in the kernel and rebooting to see if it works? I must run a stable system, atleast 30 days of uptime at a time before I can reboot. So i won't find out if it works untill a long while..if someone can tell me before hand.. Thanks.. Holt --- "Andrew W. Flury" wrote: > > FYI, this problem also exists if you have APM > enabled in your BIOS setup but > not enabled in your kernel. Disabling it in the > BIOS is one way to fix it > (it's enabled on ASUS P2B boards by default). > > > Joe, > > > > Do you have apm configured in your kernel? If so, > try: > > > > device apm0 at isa? flags 0x20 > > > > So far, this seems to correct it. > > > > When I started digging around, I found that the > stat clock had been > > disabled. > > The only thing that can disable it is apm, but the > test looks backwards > > to me: > > > > *** /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c: > > line 946: > > cpu_initclocks() > > { > > int diag; > > #ifdef APIC_IO > > int apic_8254_trial; > > #endif /* APIC_IO */ > > > > if (statclock_disable) { > > /* > > * The stat interrupt mask is > different without the > > * statistics clock. Also, don't > set the interrupt > > * flag which would normally cause > the RTC to generate > > * interrupts. > > */ > > stat_imask = HWI_MASK | SWI_MASK; > > rtc_statusb = RTCSB_24HR; > > } else { > > /* Setting stathz to nonzero early > helps avoid races. */ > > stathz = RTC_NOPROFRATE; > > profhz = RTC_PROFRATE; > > } > > > > The problem seems to be that the statclock gets > disabled if > > statclock_disable > > ISN'T set. My stathz was set to RTC_NOPROFRATE, > which disables > > collection > > of stats. > > > > > > After installing a MP kernel on my system I > have noticed that the various > > > > system utilities that display cpu usage all > report 0.0% for everything. > > > > The UP kernel does not have this problem and > the MP kernel will work ok > > > > briefly after rebooting, until I apply a load > (such as starting X or > > > > building a kernel). > > > > > > I am seeing this problem as well. > > > > > > ASUS P2B-DS, 2 x PII-400/512, disks moved from > an HP Vectra XU/200 that > > > worked just fine. I was running a mildly > modified 3.0R on the Vectra > > > which reported statistics correctly. Moving > these to the P2B-DS broke, > > > for reasons unknown, since I have other P2B-DS's > on 3.0R which report > > > statistics fine. > > > > > > I then upgraded the box to 3.1R since I thought > maybe my mods were causing > > > the problem, but it is still broken. > > > > > > Oddly, it appears to work fine in single-user, > although I didn't play with > > > it for more than a few minutes. > > > > > > More oddly, load average appears to report > properly. > > > > > > If any bug whacker would like access to the box > in question, it can be > > > arranged easily enough (its a games machine). > I'd sure like to see a fix > > > for this. > > > > > > ... Joe > > > > -- Danny J. Zerkel > > dzerkel@columbus.rr.com > > "Sursum ad Absurdum" > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of > the message > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 16:34:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.noc.netcom.net (mail1.noc.netcom.net [204.31.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32327150EA for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kprater@industrysearch.com) Received: from webserver.industrysearch.com (webserver.industrysearch.com [207.95.128.10]) by mail1.noc.netcom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/(NETCOM v2.00)) with ESMTP id QAA13686 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906052333.QAA13686@mail1.noc.netcom.net> Received: from PB-S607 by webserver.industrysearch.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id L9MBWCRT; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:14:22 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Ken Prater, IndustrySearch.Com" Date: Sat, 5 Jun 99 19:24:00 +0000 Subject: "Link Your Web Site" To IndustrySearch.Com X-Mailer: WM - IndustrySearch.Com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Increase traffic to your company's web site with a FREE Hyperlink to IndustrySearch.Com. 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Prater USA INDUSTRIAL DATA BASE MANAGEMENT To be removed from our mailing list, please click Reply and type "REMOVE" in the subject field To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 18:51:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midten.fast.no (midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97B814E8F for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tegge@fast.no) Received: from fast.no (IDENT:tegge@midten.fast.no [195.139.251.11]) by midten.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA85295; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 03:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199906060151.DAA85295@midten.fast.no> To: cs@sdata.de Cc: K.R.A.M.Schreel@wtb.tue.nl, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug in SMP Kernel in 3.1, was it fixed in 3.2? From: Tor.Egge@fast.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:49:15 +0200" References: <3757F57B.AE8A68B8@sdata.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sun_Jun__6_03:46:22_1999)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 03:51:33 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----Next_Part(Sun_Jun__6_03:46:22_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Koen Schreel wrote: > > > > Same for me on a P2B-DS with a build made yesterday. Has been this way > > Yes, I have the same motherboard; - maybe this is motherboard related. > Can somebody with a different SMP-motherboard verify this ? I've upgraded a victim P2B-DS machine to BIOS revision 1.008, while keeping a reference P2B-DS machine at BIOS revision 1.006. One interesting difference in the hardware configuration is: BIOS 1.006 1.008 82371AB (PIIX4) Power Management DEVRESG 000000h 100070h 82371AB (PIIX4) Power Management DEVCTL 00000000h 02000000h I've enclosed an experimental workaround, which is probably incompatible with power management being enabled in the BIOS. To activate it, you'll also need options BROKEN_RTC in your kernel config file. - Tor Egge ----Next_Part(Sun_Jun__6_03:46:22_1999)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: sys/pci/pcisupport.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/pci/pcisupport.c,v retrieving revision 1.86.2.8 diff -u -r1.86.2.8 pcisupport.c --- pcisupport.c 1999/05/26 16:39:42 1.86.2.8 +++ pcisupport.c 1999/06/06 01:26:07 @@ -213,7 +213,29 @@ tag->secondarybus = tag->subordinatebus = secondarybus + 1; } +#ifdef BROKEN_RTC static void +fix_82371ab_power_management(pcici_t tag) +{ + int pmba; + int devctl; + +#define PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET 0x40 +#define DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET 0x2c +#define PMBA_TO_IO(addr) (addr & 0xffc0) + + pmba = pci_cfgread(tag, PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET, 4); + devctl = inl(PMBA_TO_IO(pmba) + DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET); + outl(PMBA_TO_IO(pmba) + DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET, 0); + +#undef PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET +#undef DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET +#undef PMBA_TO_IO +} +#endif + + +static void fixwsc_natoma(pcici_t tag) { int pmccfg; @@ -284,6 +306,9 @@ case 0x71108086: return ("Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge"); case 0x71138086: +#ifdef BROKEN_RTC + fix_82371ab_power_management(tag); +#endif return ("Intel 82371AB Power management controller"); case 0x71808086: return ("Intel 82443LX host to PCI bridge"); ----Next_Part(Sun_Jun__6_03:46:22_1999)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 19: 5:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A023214CBA for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA14771; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:05:28 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdb14767; Sat Jun 5 19:05:25 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA38406; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906051934.MAA38406@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdk38402; Sat Jun 5 12:34:05 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: andyo@prime.net.ua, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oddness while switching between console & X In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 May 1999 22:56:29 +0900." <199905271356.WAA26219@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 12:34:05 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had this problem. As it turned out, /usr/X11R6/bin/X was symlinked to XF86_VGA16 instead of XF86_Mach64. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <199905271356.WAA26219@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>, Kazutaka YOK OTA writes: > > >Ok, this morning I've began > >to rebuid XFree86 sources to elf format. > > Which version of XFree86 are you talking about? > > Kazu > > >After rebuld & restart X (I run xdm), > >Just after switchig in X, it's fozen > >untill I rebooted by reset (I should not > >do that 'cos it was alive). Next > >start of X just did the same. > >But as I said earlier it was alive. > >It was pinged, ftp'd, smtp'd but > >its console & kbd was frozen anyway. > >Only after being ssh'd it became melted > >and did worked properly. Ok. Look. > >I switch from console to X with ALT-*. > >Turning into X kbd, mouse, screen becomes > >frozen until I remotly ssh this host > >(just after "ssh xhost" - no more). > >well, I turn into console. result is > >console, kbd become frozen again untill > >I remotly "ssh xhost". Etc. > >Being not switched between modes system works just > >fine. I'll resolve this prob anyway. > >But U, guys, what do U think about it? > >Seems like ssh protocol do some strobe > >making kbd, screen & mouse to become > >alive after switching from mode to mode. > >And only when ssh *starts* from remote. > >No errors in any logs, no traffic on lo0, > >just normal traffic on ed0 ssh/tcp. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 20:26:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BF514D35 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA08110; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA46529; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:26:09 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: michael@alderete.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption Message-ID: <19990605202609.A46300@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <19990605175807.21420.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990605175807.21420.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com>; from Michael A. Alderete on Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 8:23PM up 5 days, 3:24, 2 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.04, 0.02 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > standby. > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 21: 4: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF251152C9 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12495; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:27:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:27:03 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: michael@alderete.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: <19990605202609.A46300@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > > standby. > > > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI > raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine > was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend > scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, and failed, we tried: 1) new card 2) new drives 3) new motherboard 4) new cables 5) crying 6) praying ... Well I really don't want to talk about things past "6" -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 21:14:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (net25-cust199.pdx.wantweb.net [24.236.25.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B00514D0A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:14:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08385; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:13:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" , michael@alderete.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, > and failed, we tried: I set up a colocated server with a caching DPT controller about a month ago. It's had two unexplained reboots, but no problems other than that. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 21:32:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wsg.net (ns2.wsg.net [206.97.122.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B99514D0A for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gilem@wsg.net) Received: (qmail 15050 invoked from network); 6 Jun 1999 04:26:43 -0000 Received: from mike.wsg.net (HELO trouble) (206.97.122.31) by ned.wsg.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 1999 04:26:43 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990606001442.01cfd590@ns2.wsg.net> X-Sender: mikemail@ns2.wsg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 00:18:12 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael R. Gile" Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: References: <19990605202609.A46300@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:27 PM 6/5/99 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > > > > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > > > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > > > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > > > standby. > > > > > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI > > raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine > > was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend > > scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. > >We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, >and failed, we tried: > >1) new card >2) new drives >3) new motherboard >4) new cables >5) crying >6) praying >... WOW, that surprises me. We have been running DPT with FreeBSD 2.2 since the drivers have been released (as well as Linux and ::ducking:: NT), and they have been rock solid. Out our curiosity, What models of the controllers are you using? Are you using DPT ECC or standard parity RAM? What version of FreeBSD? ====================================================== Michael Gile gilem@wsg.net President (518)435-0682 Web Services Group http://www.wsg.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 22: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6CEA14E64 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10qV2Y-0005nZ-00; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:00:10 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:00:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson , michael@alderete.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > > > > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > > > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > > > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > > > standby. > > > > > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI > > raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine > > was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend > > scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. > > We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, > and failed, we tried: > > 1) new card > 2) new drives > 3) new motherboard > 4) new cables > 5) crying > 6) praying > ... > > Well I really don't want to talk about things past "6" Well, I have a 24x7 production with 300+ days of uptime and a DPT PM334UW card. > -Alfred Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 5 23:17:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cybcon.com (mail.cybcon.com [205.147.64.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF70154A3 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wwoods@cybcon.com) Received: from william (usr1-16.cybcon.com [205.147.75.17]) by mail.cybcon.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA23196 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "William Woods" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Subject: make depend for custom kernel failed,...... Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:18:00 -0700 Message-ID: <000101beafe4$539a0680$114b93cd@william> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just finished a 3.2 nake world, did make install world. All was fine there. Then I did a /usr/sbin/config mobile (name of the kernel) did a cd ..\..\compile\mobile did a make depend and this is what I got.... ------------------------- make -f ../../dev/aic7xxx/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../dev/aic7xxx Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/compile/mobile cc -O -pipe -I/usr/include -I. -c aicasm_scan.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/include -I. -c ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/include -I. -c ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/include -I. -o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ------------------------------------- Ideas please William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 6 2:36:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D63B14C94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA25202; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 04:59:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 04:59:26 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Tom Cc: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" , michael@alderete.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Tom wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > > > > > > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > > > > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > > > > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > > > > standby. > > > > > > > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI > > > raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine > > > was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend > > > scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. > > > > We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, > > and failed, we tried: > > > > 1) new card > > 2) new drives > > 3) new motherboard > > 4) new cables > > 5) crying > > 6) praying > > ... > > > > Well I really don't want to talk about things past "6" > > Well, I have a 24x7 production with 300+ days of uptime and a DPT > PM334UW card. Since your uptime is 300+ days I'm going to assume you have a very old version of FreeBSD running, one that doesn't have problems with the driver. There's a chance that it's my user error, but when you have 3 people noticing problems with the DPT driver under load with recent versions of FreeBSD, it could mean a problem. It seemed that under hard I/O load it would corrupt data on disk giving me directories that were impossible to delete and forcing me to "reboot -n" to get fsck to fix it. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 6 2:37:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A81F14C94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17782; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 05:00:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 05:00:30 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Mike Holling Cc: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" , michael@alderete.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Mike Holling wrote: > > We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, > > and failed, we tried: > > I set up a colocated server with a caching DPT controller about a month > ago. It's had two unexplained reboots, but no problems other than that. 2 reboots in under a month isn't a good sign. Does your system do a lot of disk I/O? -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jun 6 2:39: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DC014C94 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA22303; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 05:02:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 05:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Michael R. Gile" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [HELP!] Crashing FreeBSD server with file system corruption In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990606001442.01cfd590@ns2.wsg.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Michael R. Gile wrote: > At 11:27 PM 6/5/99 -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 05, 1999 at 10:58:07AM -0700, Michael A. Alderete wrote: > > > > > > > > * The disk subsystem is a SCSI RAID controller from > > > > DPT. It's a PCI card and has 4 drives attached, > > > > configured in a RAID 5 with one drive as a hot > > > > standby. > > > > > > > One possibility could be the DPT. You might want to try a SCSI to SCSI > > > raid solution. Reason why I say this is because a close friend of mine > > > was seeing the same thing with there DPT's moved over to an infortrend > > > scsi-scsi solution and the filesystem corruption went away. > > > >We tried for a month to get a DPT controller working with FreeBSD, > >and failed, we tried: > > > >1) new card > >2) new drives > >3) new motherboard > >4) new cables > >5) crying > >6) praying > >... > > WOW, that surprises me. We have been running DPT with FreeBSD 2.2 since the drivers have been released (as well as Linux and ::ducking:: NT), and they have been rock solid. Out our curiosity, What models of the controllers are you using? Are you usin g DPT ECC or standard parity RAM? What version of FreeBSD? as far as i remember standard parity RAM. model number, i forget it was just as I was coming aboard with the company and the previous admin had tried contact with Simon but I don't think he got any responce. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message