From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:07:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B200106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike4ty4@yahoo.com) Received: from web33606.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33606.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA6628FC17 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike4ty4@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 80585 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Mar 2008 23:40:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vjnmpvCFej/zTFmI1YTAs4ViXXVVRol6Shf81BhkCDPQQYfEB52Gt0RTb/w7IrqoZufw8Y2ud6ml5Bv+O3dld3FQNBp9f3Xuw98b+ck9iD3HNMHFzV/pVDMe12QKtdNTAXnp7r3zM9ivvH/WwQGj6JcvgfTnBgX/xzTWhKmuvCE=; X-YMail-OSG: 7KJD4VYVM1nC90mvxv4tEdJBWtnkhkwEtDNGyXIexK.gzYjrJqDyanXrmdhwwkhJK6qOEHSG2yxaj5FJ65ab_dQROC6ifHI_mJoLL9xDRZiJTA3flKunSAH.liQcdg-- Received: from [170.215.65.87] by web33606.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:40:29 PDT Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: mike3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <306874.79256.qm@web33606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Installation locks up X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:07:12 -0000 Hi. I was attempting to install FreeBSD 7.0 on a Sun computer (Sun Blade 100 with 500MHz UltraSPARC IIe CPU). It seems to be having trouble though. When it gets done (100%) copying the base system to / (the first part of the install), it freezes up cold (I can't even ALT-F4 to teh emergency console session.) What's wrong? I can't seem to figure it out. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:09:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B4106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35728FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so5351883waf.3 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=Ef2ZwY7rT1Zl75D9eM33Z2YRO+PU/vzYLfVYEMt9Ols=; b=UVOZmDvutZ2+ZoDEtl1+HS0Z7waKDO0yIqYgebCyFmo3YxY8seY44lsPR+llNPVratDshZfnaDqpGKzw6FHuaP7Qft03HxYXuL/4Hb8JDCmTKthu3Mr3+L4yqJasR5oa9FHPQGk0jq3PonUT5IY5bTZAZsZiEMx3La1/GTM2siw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oKwO8uGSW48LWRAYFtDH3uyLMbAHeaoUN+eO98OV1tCV+EiW93YOc7oNTRLpK6DPHvlx7GCuVWoQO4Z8WYGylD/78a3vjwf7vPZQtPkQk71RKhHp1nmfGEN8GS9l352Dxg75L912hLdG5VrZotxFsjJf1NRDOc60iWd7uxlr2/A= Received: by 10.114.103.1 with SMTP id a1mr17186749wac.59.1205626140079; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.60.2 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:09:00 -0400 From: "C Thala" To: freebsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:09:02 -0000 Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:28:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448AD1065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:28:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outlook-admin@opengroupware.org) Received: from mailhub.opengroupware.org (mailhub.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6728FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:28:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outlook-admin@opengroupware.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.opengroupware.org (OPENGROUPWARE.ORG MAILHUB) with ESMTP id 547A9BFAC for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mailhub.opengroupware.org Received: from mailhub.opengroupware.org ([213.211.192.144]) by localhost (mailhub.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24Rsz3excX0U for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org (mail.opengroupware.org [213.211.192.141]) by mailhub.opengroupware.org (OPENGROUPWARE.ORG MAILHUB) with ESMTP id AAE7FBFB0 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.opengroupware.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.opengroupware.org (mail) with ESMTP id 894A4158103 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20080316000602.17069.90968.Mailman@mail.opengroupware.org> From: outlook-admin@opengroupware.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Ack: no Sender: outlook-admin@opengroupware.org Errors-To: outlook-admin@opengroupware.org X-BeenThere: outlook@opengroupware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Subject: Your message to Outlook awaits moderator approval X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:28:19 -0000 Your mail to 'Outlook' with the subject status Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:35:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354661065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2308FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JagqU-000FwC-4n; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:35:26 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c886fd$a0b2f630$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: , "Ivan Voras" References: <000b01c886a7$f5fa2150$6501a8c0@GRANT> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:35:25 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: Subject: Re: Load Averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:35:27 -0000 Ivan, Checked top, it does not have the 'S' option. Guess its time to upgrade ... (???) -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Voras" To: Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Load Averages From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:47:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668A2106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB178FC22 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so5368693waf.3 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:46:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rPWhDZ4NmUw75gQUN0fWw5QmrU3cjA2HG4oQOOYrGyY=; b=PYqYl+WrIwXXZfIlPLHrXAWA7LomztABqsCH25wKk0wNYDBnnqeQ0avpaQAOSrDABmSq9QAOGdt5aL3PLYqhr2tlzPXopFkyEbPz/AD225lkJPPS0M094L987XxEbx3U5uBOCRGrjcigJoFvNCSPK1puPb2y0L15qL5g8Hd/9EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jOVV8zDMMGz++XIIITrFA61wWCyffW8aYdkeEA+wHY870rTTxXbADyMWKacYsBvRk60ze33H1WVfQzRkSlMgCkYWgbVADPvuHuiacNyYZZou+BVAwwbOThDQGuEQaalXDlL3c7QLj7ds4AQdZfKuLyHR5aLNcKI3eWj6o7KxcmE= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr12063991wac.82.1205628418973; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.195.4 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34394a3a0803151746u62e123bax488bb708a73a310a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:46:58 -0700 From: "Patrick C" To: "Grant Peel" In-Reply-To: <000d01c886fd$a0b2f630$6501a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c886a7$f5fa2150$6501a8c0@GRANT> <000d01c886fd$a0b2f630$6501a8c0@GRANT> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Load Averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:47:00 -0000 I don't think it's an accounting bug, my guess is there is an issue in the kernel. Have you checked the output of dmesg? Anything unusual? Any issues accessing locally mounted file systems? Instead of upgrading, have you considered rebooting? :) -Patrick On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: > Ivan, > > Checked top, it does not have the 'S' option. > > Guess its time to upgrade ... (???) > > > -Grant > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ivan Voras" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: Load Averages > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:49:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57E31065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A294B8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-241-161-249.bna.bellsouth.net[74.241.161.249]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20080316004950H0100mqkrbe>; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:49:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [74.241.161.249] Message-ID: <47DC6E92.1000300@datapipe.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:49:22 -0500 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <64c038660803151511r6ae6d229v484769cfe38043bc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660803151511r6ae6d229v484769cfe38043bc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can one list permission bits numerically... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:49:51 -0000 Modulok wrote: > Perhaps I missed it somewhere in the man page, but is there a way to > list files with their permission bits displayed as numeric (octal, as > in chmod(1)), instead of symbolic? Something like: > > ls -lF -imaginaryFlag > > 0755 4 Modulok Modulok 512 Dec 17 18:39 dir1/ > 0644 1 Modulok Modulok 101786 Feb 23 05:53 file1 > 0644 1 Modulok Modulok 140097 Feb 13 23:38 file2 > .... > > Thanks. > -Modulok- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Maybe something like this will suit you: stat -f "%p %l %u %g %z %m %N" * It produces output similar to the following: 100755 1 0 0 64 1201845218 blah The fields that I choose are in the man page, so it should be easy reading, and is pretty close to `ls -l`. As for as `ls` having this ability, it doesn't. Cheers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 00:52:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CD6106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC328FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3082780rvb.43 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aKDxCt/vEKaCNEU4pWEeBXlfJ3RVpjyARkvcZ7j9DpI=; b=b/brredC1wZhT3EGlus/ASsKAvLN9suR6WKAZ+DajHtsJrMvxBXqE3i8HSYxZGX/V7KpzcvDtuONg5N9gWiZwhNERq/7IMeZw4lY2St1Z75FMl2Rb0FQ1otl1pnY8hFK0pwndaXVNTNzICXL2ud+efYygDJ27FlWeRV/g2I2Df4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LPtHmsuq6AP9l0djy3FZ4ZFuEqJ/U8gY6C8MMpPxUHkcgl+es/ZH5fAvt0UtVqclzYCdguPmJ7KsinNm59Bv4YZkQVMcXY01m13G7d617xlZFS3fQwJaqMTbyZly9xJryot1skXNjnJqyLVoBVEbAc4Daf2mSUlSAO92gT8/wQc= Received: by 10.140.147.13 with SMTP id u13mr7100474rvd.228.1205628778170; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:52:58 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Modulok In-Reply-To: <64c038660803151511r6ae6d229v484769cfe38043bc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <64c038660803151511r6ae6d229v484769cfe38043bc@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can one list permission bits numerically... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:52:59 -0000 On 15/03/2008, Modulok wrote: > Perhaps I missed it somewhere in the man page, but is there a way to > list files with their permission bits displayed as numeric (octal, as > in chmod(1)), instead of symbolic? Something like: > > ls -lF -imaginaryFlag > > 0755 4 Modulok Modulok 512 Dec 17 18:39 dir1/ > 0644 1 Modulok Modulok 101786 Feb 23 05:53 file1 > 0644 1 Modulok Modulok 140097 Feb 13 23:38 file2 > ... Unless it is a hidden option buried somewhere in the source code (by The Conspiracy), I am saying, "nein". -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 01:00:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FD7106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:00:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@gamerdude.net) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA92B8FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gautham@gamerdude.net) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id m63so3959170hsc.11 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.233.16 with SMTP id k16mr27729951qbr.57.1205627610476; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.181.13 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:03:30 +0530 From: "Gautham Ganapathy" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: umodem driver with Nokia N80 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:00:34 -0000 Hi I am trying to get my nokia n80 working under freebsd (7-stable) with the umodem driver. Running udesc_dump from ports shows that this phone supports the Abstract Control Model in the Communication Device Class, but it only comes up as a ugen device even with the ucom and umodem devices loaded at startup. Enabling some debug info in sys/dev/usb/umodem.c indicates that the device matching code was failing when it was checking for some Call Management feature (UDESCSUB_CDC_CM) in umodem_get_caps(). udesc_dump does not list this descriptor either, although this phone is being detected as an ACM device under linux (Ubuntu 7.10 livecd), where it comes up as ttyACM0. Is there any way of getting this up and running in 7-stable? Any pointers on what changes might be required to the driver and any documentation would also be very helpful Regards Gautham PS - I was able to use this phone as a modem using bluetooth until a f/w upgrade (5.xxxx) introduced some bugs and made it stop working From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 01:06:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A76F106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeanvarner@pcpc.data1.com) Received: from pcpc.data1.com (pcpc.data1.com [204.212.36.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7D08FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeanvarner@pcpc.data1.com) Received: from pcpc.data1.com (jeanvarner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcpc.data1.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m2FL5GeH092213 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeanvarner@pcpc.data1.com) Received: (from jeanvarner@localhost) by pcpc.data1.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id m2FL5G6t092211; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200803152105.m2FL5G6t092211@pcpc.data1.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "postcard.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: You have received a postcard ! 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Maybe I should try removing the keep-state statements? I only want to reboot as a last resort :-) -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick C" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: ; "Ivan Voras" Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Load Averages >I don't think it's an accounting bug, my guess is there is an issue in > the kernel. > > Have you checked the output of dmesg? Anything unusual? Any issues > accessing locally mounted file systems? > > Instead of upgrading, have you considered rebooting? :) > > -Patrick > > On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: >> Ivan, >> >> Checked top, it does not have the 'S' option. >> >> Guess its time to upgrade ... (???) >> >> >> -Grant >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ivan Voras" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:31 PM >> Subject: Re: Load Averages >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 01:21:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0F8106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:21:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD618FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:21:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so5383335waf.3 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:21:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tx5sU1ZgLV3wQkzqmmyE73HfK5JX8xeMtXZ0RXlw0vM=; b=t0M8KAL+wFu1SyKYBjEAKEkoJ+E9sTzKD9MlVMFAVcaC3LNSeRLjvu+hf1SkyQgr6ir4Os9AEUjNLtnwZwnPPLqhqgRwZpWppYmt9WCLY2ktuvmB1fcwNIsGFPfwJexDB/lpnbp/7+L7dhJLCbD3fxDroW8qtkeWVi9K+/SWRo8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dUVYivjTL8LHCKITw49vJ3yUWmyegjl7n66pR4LC2b1ZiJWMqGgxuDN8JKbG3jdTUoq0Uv+6GO4thkzWsYdzObYSljvgWBd62WUSn/pKGD/Ry6UecGueH+mEbgqZYstCDzfa+umMDK+s7m7HCU9fs3/kDOgJxUSA98NKfsE23u8= Received: by 10.114.14.1 with SMTP id 1mr14899346wan.125.1205630468983; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.195.4 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34394a3a0803151821q2faebca7q6cc97b09ae4b7234@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:21:08 -0700 From: "Patrick C" To: "Grant Peel" In-Reply-To: <005201c88702$27a30aa0$6501a8c0@GRANT> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c886a7$f5fa2150$6501a8c0@GRANT> <000d01c886fd$a0b2f630$6501a8c0@GRANT> <34394a3a0803151746u62e123bax488bb708a73a310a@mail.gmail.com> <005201c88702$27a30aa0$6501a8c0@GRANT> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Load Averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:21:10 -0000 Sure, flush the rules and the current state and start over. I haven't seen any issues with ipfw but I am recently more familiar with pf. I think ipfw usage should be accounted for properly as "system" though... does the system actually feel like there's that kind of load? -Patrick On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: > The only thing I see in dmesg is: > > Too many dynamic rules (from ipfw). > > Maybe I should try removing the keep-state statements? > > I only want to reboot as a last resort :-) > > > -Grant > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick C" > To: "Grant Peel" > Cc: ; "Ivan Voras" > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: Load Averages > > > >I don't think it's an accounting bug, my guess is there is an issue in > > the kernel. > > > > Have you checked the output of dmesg? Anything unusual? Any issues > > accessing locally mounted file systems? > > > > Instead of upgrading, have you considered rebooting? :) > > > > -Patrick > > > > On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: > >> Ivan, > >> > >> Checked top, it does not have the 'S' option. > >> > >> Guess its time to upgrade ... (???) > >> > >> > >> -Grant > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Ivan Voras" > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:31 PM > >> Subject: Re: Load Averages > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 01:34:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA81065670; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D538FC17; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Jahlb-000JGi-1b; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:34:27 -0400 Message-ID: <006701c88705$df3e7de0$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: "Patrick C" References: <000b01c886a7$f5fa2150$6501a8c0@GRANT> <000d01c886fd$a0b2f630$6501a8c0@GRANT><34394a3a0803151746u62e123bax488bb708a73a310a@mail.gmail.com><005201c88702$27a30aa0$6501a8c0@GRANT> <34394a3a0803151821q2faebca7q6cc97b09ae4b7234@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:34:26 -0400 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Load Averages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:34:28 -0000 Patric, No the system seemed as responsive as ever: the name daemon was processing requests, and logging in was quick and painless. -Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick C" To: "Grant Peel" Cc: ; "Ivan Voras" Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: Load Averages > Sure, flush the rules and the current state and start over. I haven't > seen any issues with ipfw but I am recently more familiar with pf. > > I think ipfw usage should be accounted for properly as "system" > though... does the system actually feel like there's that kind of > load? > > -Patrick > > On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: >> The only thing I see in dmesg is: >> >> Too many dynamic rules (from ipfw). >> >> Maybe I should try removing the keep-state statements? >> >> I only want to reboot as a last resort :-) >> >> >> -Grant >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patrick C" >> To: "Grant Peel" >> Cc: ; "Ivan Voras" >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:46 PM >> Subject: Re: Load Averages >> >> >> >I don't think it's an accounting bug, my guess is there is an issue in >> > the kernel. >> > >> > Have you checked the output of dmesg? Anything unusual? Any issues >> > accessing locally mounted file systems? >> > >> > Instead of upgrading, have you considered rebooting? :) >> > >> > -Patrick >> > >> > On 15/03/2008, Grant Peel wrote: >> >> Ivan, >> >> >> >> Checked top, it does not have the 'S' option. >> >> >> >> Guess its time to upgrade ... (???) >> >> >> >> >> >> -Grant >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Ivan Voras" >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:31 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Load Averages >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 01:58:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97248106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonw@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [66.180.172.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545C18FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonw@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whoweb.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2G1p4ip097492 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2G1p4UK097491 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:51:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:51:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jonathan Wallace Message-Id: <200803160151.m2G1p4UK097491@whoweb.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is packages-6.2-release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:58:35 -0000 I think lack of disk space is a poor excuse for an organization distributing an OS. This isn't the 90's. 500GB drives are $99.00 at newegg and that's enough to hold the OS, ports, and packages for 50 releases (at least). Surely the decision not to keep older releases where pkg_add() can find them by default, could not have been made based upon lack of disk space. There's no documentation about ftp-archive here http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html, here http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html, or even if I go to www.freebsd.org and try to use the search tool to find any reference to "ftp archive". That's great that you (as a FreeBSD contributor) know where to find the old release packages, and great that I do now as well. But it really sucks that I had to spend this much time finding that information when it could be documented in the handbook or some other obvious location. Certainly, it would seem, one of the reasons Jordan wrote pkg_add() was for ease of use in regards to finding and installing packages. That work is just as certainly trivialized when people at FreeBSD make bad decisions that cause the command not to work "out of the box" and further causes a user to jump through hoops to discover how to use the command for releases that are hardly more than a few years old. There should be a packages link at the same level of the ports directory. Keep the ports directory structure as you want, but it doesn't hurt to add a link and make the distinction more obvious in the ftp location. The documentation makes the distinction and the ftp tree should as well. -----Original Message----- From: Kris Kennaway [mailto:kris@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 6:42 PM To: Incoming Mail List Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is packages-6.2-release? Incoming Mail List wrote: >> I have only ONE question. >> Where is packages-6.2-release? I have FreeBSD 6.2, and tuning it. >> Where I can download packages for my freebsd version? > > Thats a great question, and it appears that the 6.2-release packages > repository has been removed. Looking in ftp.freebsd.org I see 5-stable, > 6-stable, 6.3-release, 7-stable, 7.0-release, and 8-current. There is > no 6.2-release directory so "pkg_add -r" returns an error for any package > that you try to load. Very aggravating. > > Apparently the release team is only providing packages for the most > recent streams. I'd like to know why that is, and also why they insist > on listing "packages" under "ports". The documentation makes it very > clear there is a difference between the two. Why anyone on the release > team thinks it's intuitive to look for a ready-to-go "package" under > a "ports" directory which has been defined by documentation as something > that needs to be compiled, is a mystery to simpletons like myself. Disk space is not infinite. ftp-archive has old releases. packages are built from ports and are part of the ports collection. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 02:16:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F41065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6F48FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:16:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) id m2G2GD8A079488; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:16:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:16:12 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Razmig K Message-ID: <20080316021612.GB4295@dan.emsphone.com> References: <47DC503D.7020008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47DC503D.7020008@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:16:15 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 16), Razmig K said: > With IPFW enabled in the kernel, I'd like to use the NAT functionality of > user-ppp instead of natd. Do I need the IPDIVERT option in the kernel and > the special arrangement of divert and skipto rules in the ruleset? Or, a > non-NATed ruleset (as demonstrated in handbook section 28.6.5.6) would > suffice? > > If divert rules are necessary, what argument do I need to pass to action > divert in place of natd? If you mean the "nat enable yes" option in ppp.conf, that is done completely within the user-ppp daemon (using the same libalias libarary that natd uses). Since user-ppp creates its own tun# device, it can call the NAT functions as it processes packets to/from that device without needing IPFW divert rules. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 02:19:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0E81065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:19:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BB08FC13; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:19:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47DC83AE.2030605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:19:26 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Wallace References: <200803160151.m2G1p4UK097491@whoweb.com> In-Reply-To: <200803160151.m2G1p4UK097491@whoweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is packages-6.2-release? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:19:25 -0000 Jonathan Wallace wrote: > I think lack of disk space is a poor excuse for an organization > distributing an OS. This isn't the 90's. 500GB drives are $99.00 at > newegg and that's enough to hold the OS, ports, and packages for 50 > releases (at least). Surely the decision not to keep older releases > where pkg_add() can find them by default, could not have been made > based upon lack of disk space. Uh, we don't store the main FTP site on crappy lowest common denominator hardware (thank god). New shelves for netapp filers are slightly more than $99 (but if you'd like to donate us one that would be nice). Also, you're way off on your size estimates. A release is currently about 60-80GB, and that is more space than is free on the filer. Which is why 6.2 had to be moved off-site. > There's no documentation about ftp-archive here > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html, here > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/packages-using.html, > or even if I go to www.freebsd.org and try to use the search tool to > find any reference to "ftp archive". That's great that you (as a > FreeBSD contributor) know where to find the old release packages, and > great that I do now as well. But it really sucks that I had to spend > this much time finding that information when it could be documented in > the handbook or some other obvious location. Certainly, it would seem, > one of the reasons Jordan wrote pkg_add() was for ease of use in regards > to finding and installing packages. That work is just as certainly > trivialized when people at FreeBSD make bad decisions that cause the > command not to work "out of the box" and further causes a user to jump > through hoops to discover how to use the command for releases that are > hardly more than a few years old. As part of the freebsd community, feel free to send-pr the request. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 03:06:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE04106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031FF8FC1A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dangkm@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u52so6812300pyb.10 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:06:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wgNn4TJjM9NiCdbuvrCAOzIs9AvIH9AGeWLYJkZydlo=; b=Y17oVAaGQ86TYu4gsWklNhti6B7PjMCPodeA+Hp16zo6R4kxFgjh4L5D4LDpYW3pCDl1vGtj0LXa3m9XYn4PFRtMXgU15aM0uRyhVklw+9kmyznxzoK7B55uiiE/05dy4N/pHiJgdz7PXeAjUjjzyMSL86OQ6nuGxfM63ivrcsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; 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Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808998FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ejcerejo@optonline.net) Received: from localhost (ool-44c03822.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.56.34]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0JXT00LR10R3SOE0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:37:50 -0400 From: "E. J. Cerejo" In-reply-to: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> To: C Thala Message-id: <20080315233750.1d432aad.ejcerejo@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:37:52 -0000 On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:09:00 -0400 C Thala wrote: > Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has > more or less become a necessity. > > I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most > popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because > Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap > and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. > > So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on > YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, > I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the > mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within > the first 10 minutes of use. > > So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of > Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? > Caveats? Comments? Advice? So far I haven't had any major problems with linux-flash7 on my native firefox using nspluginwrapper. Sometimes I get the sound off sync but I can survive. It's the 9 that crashes and in my opinion should be removed from the ports collection. You can always try graphics/gnash which works natively with firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 04:10:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458911065675 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7888FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E4150916 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:11 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8e6srROXwVNw for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A06D1508A4; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20080316041001.A06D1508A4@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-02-24 - 2008-03-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:15 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 05:07:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B4B1065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) Received: from omsk.mushinsky.net (omsk.mushinsky.net [66.114.66.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D09B8FC27 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:07:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) Received: from omsk.mushinsky.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by omsk.mushinsky.net (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2G572GK019805 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:07:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by omsk.mushinsky.net (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id m2G571JV019804 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:07:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from itz@mushinsky.net) X-Authentication-Warning: omsk.mushinsky.net: itz set sender to itz@mushinsky.net using -f From: Isaac Mushinsky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:07:01 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803160107.01832.itz@mushinsky.net> Subject: Re: SATA problems (Abit IP35-Pro) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:07:08 -0000 On Friday 14 March 2008 13:57:11 Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > I am setting up a new system with Abit IP35-Pro (ich9r), 2 WD SATA drives > on the controller. There is also a SATA DVDRW to boot from. > With the default SATA setup (SATA/IDE) the system cannot find any SATA > drive. I was able to boot the install disk, attaching an old IDE CDROM, but > still could not make it see the hard drive. > > If I set SATA controller to AHCI, the system boots (although with some ACPI > errors), and I was able to install. However, fdisk thinks that the geometry > is "incorrect", and insists on a different one (it says the drives have > 476gb rather than 500gb). > > I can install with this AHCI setup, but have no idea what the implications > are. Is there a known fix for SATA/IDE? Or is AHCI better? Very well, but now I boot with ACPI errors like these: ACPI Error (psparse-0626) Method parse/execution failed [\\_TZ_.THRM._TMP] (Node 0xffffff000224ac60), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE Missing or null operand [20070320] ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE While creating Arg 0 [20070320] If I attempt to boot without ACPI, the machine hangs while trying to mount root filesystem. Why does disabling ACPI cause disk access problems? What can I do to fix this? Can I disable only thermal part of ACPI? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 06:23:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65213106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D6F8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAD71CC79 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:23:33 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kusVKiqyL+aI for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:23:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from TerryPC (220-253-152-183.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.152.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F9D71CC73 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:23:28 +1100 (EST) From: "Terry Sposato" To: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:23:12 +1100 Message-ID: <014801c8872e$39151ef0$ab3f5cd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AciHLjVyyeH6Ee/qQzyQchqYu1iNcQ== Content-Language: en-au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:23:35 -0000 Hi, Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port vmware-tools to FreeBSD. As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers follow as well. It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? Regards, Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:10:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9216E1065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@comtron.com.au) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (mail-out3.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371D18FC22 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@comtron.com.au) Received: from TerryPC (220-253-152-183.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.152.183]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082765202 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:52:40 +1100 (EST) From: "Terry Sposato" To: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:52:27 +1100 Message-ID: <015101c88732$4d10f290$e732d7b0$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AciHLmf8QEeisHNyQtOfCo+JjptS3w== Content-Language: en-au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:10:03 -0000 Hi, Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port vmware-tools to FreeBSD. As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers follow as well. It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? Regards, Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:36:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004D01065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:36:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3779B8FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2G75TQb001560 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:05:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m2G75ST9001557 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:05:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:05:28 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316075508.H1423@pukruppa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:36:01 -0000 Hi, surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java based CMS's: http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they work? (Please no flames about the advantages of PHP or Python, I am just looking for a starting point for some testing :) ) Greetings, Uli. ------------------------------------- Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:41:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD09106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C448FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G7fnvl085142; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Banning" , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:43:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080312204917.GA69118@skytracker.ca> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: email pop3 question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Banning > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:49 PM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: email pop3 question > > > I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via > IMAP or POP3. > > I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the > server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their > computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this? > > For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not > be presented > with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually? It depends on a lot of variables. For example, I have a 64-bit mailserver running uw-imapd. I have a 500MB mailbox with around 16,000 e-mail messages in it. When I connect with Outlook, it takes about a minute for the server and client to sync with each other. Beyond that, it's not even noticable. However, some of the webmail clients do have a lot of problems with this large of a mailbox. With POP3 you start having problems with more than a couple hundred messages in the inbox. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:41:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29829106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054CB8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G7fnvn085142; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:43:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080316075508.H1423@pukruppa.net> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:41:54 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter Ulrich > Kruppa > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:05 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? > > > Hi, > > surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java > based CMS's: > > http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems > > Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they > work? Java is write-once, run anywhere. As long as they run under the JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems. I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their literature about Java. Sun says that a language that can only run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point of why they wrote Java, according to Sun. > > (Please no flames about the advantages of PHP or Python, Of course. After all, Sun Microsystems says that Java is better than PHP or Python and because Sun says so it must be true. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:46:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8FF106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98228FC16 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:46:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G7krVs085179; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:46:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Terry Sposato" , Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:48:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <015101c88732$4d10f290$e732d7b0$@com.au> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:46:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Terry Sposato > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:52 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD > > > Hi, > > > > Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port > vmware-tools to FreeBSD. > > As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are > being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our > FreeBSD servers > follow as well. > > > > It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to > FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another > reason? Not > being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been > tackled and if > it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? > Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX server. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:47:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E441065687 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:47:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE8A8FC27 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:47:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnMFAPFs3Ed5LVPJ/2dsb2JhbACBWqUz X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,508,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="76644359" Received: from ppp121-45-83-201.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.83.201]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 18:17:13 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:47 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Subject: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:47:19 -0000 The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through an ISP mail service. I can certainly successfully send mail directly via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr I get a returned mail message which includes the following: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found) It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of mail.whatnot.on.net then I believe the message will be accepted. So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to work with the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the rout that will be followed by any responses. Is there a better way around the difficulty. Views please Malcolm Kay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 07:58:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76ED91065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2658FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23612; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:51:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-82-135-14-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de(82.135.14.24) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma023582; Sun, 16 Mar 08 08:50:33 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m2G7vcNc002531; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:57:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:57:38 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080316075738.GA2348@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20080316075508.H1423@pukruppa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:58:21 -0000 El día Saturday, March 15, 2008 a las 11:43:04PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt escribió: ... > Java is write-once, run anywhere. As long as they run under the > JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems. > > I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their > literature about Java. Sun says that a language that can only > run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point > of why they wrote Java, according to Sun. You can also write stuff in Java which only runs on one specific platform, on Windows, because for example you make references to objects in the file system as 'help.htm' while in real the file name is 'Help.htm', or you use specific DLL's for accessing devices which are only available on Windows :-( matthias -- b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:01:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1376D106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AC88FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G81sFw085278; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:01:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bill Moran" , "freebsd-questions" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:03:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080312221432.ff2fd465.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Superuser password lost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:01:57 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Bill Moran > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:15 PM > To: freebsd-questions > Subject: Re: Superuser password lost > > > > Apparently I miscommunicated. My point was that the OP's message used > the term "superuser" in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned). > To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP > to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the > GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do. > Historically on all UNIXes "superuser" = "the root user" The problem as I see it is that recently Apple (probably stole this idea from someone else) has introduced ambiguity into the term with the creation of what they call the "owner" account into MacOS X. With regular MacOS X there's some things that an ordinary user can do, but when an ordinary user tries to do some other things, MacOS X flashes up a dialog asking for the owners password. However, even if you su to root, there's still things that the system will not let you do which is insane because real UNIX will happily allow the root user to rm -r / if desired. Once more, proving that MacOS X is nothing more than UNIX-on-training-wheels, and reaffirming what Apple's historic view of it's customers really is (ie: dumb and dumber) Microsoft also introduced ambiguity into the concept, although to their credit, they scruplously avoided use of the term "superuser" or "root". Under Microsoft operating systems, there's ordinary users and there's "administrators" and you can have multiple administrators, which isn't possible in UNIX - thus a MS administrator <> a UNIX superuser. I would suspect PC-BSD has copied the Apple nonsense and has created this mutated account that's not quite a real superuser account, and not quite a regular user account. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:16:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A79106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99688FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:58288 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jao2O-000840-7N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:16:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 61432 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 09:16:07 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 09:16:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 19344 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2008 09:16:07 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:16:07 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20080316081607.GA19264@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Malcolm Kay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jao2O-000840-7N. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Jao2O-000840-7N 96c5f3a6ee508a022a6ea1c4b8734653 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:16:14 -0000 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > an ISP mail service. Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail server? > I can certainly successfully send mail directly > via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered > name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr > I get a returned mail message which includes the following: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found) > > It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. > > Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of mail.whatnot.on.net > then I believe the message will be accepted. Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted. > > So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to work with > the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the rout that > will be followed by any responses. > > Is there a better way around the difficulty. You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:17:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9981B1065683 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599F98FC26 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G8GwGG085366; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Doug Poland" , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:18:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <9587.208.49.58.254.1205349581.squirrel@email.polands.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Best practice: sendmail and SMTP auth X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:17:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Doug Poland > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:20 AM > To: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Best practice: sendmail and SMTP auth > > > Hello, > > Not sure if this is the most appropriate place for this question, but > since all my servers are FreeBSD 6.x/7.x, I'll give it a go... > > I am considering setting up SMTP auth on a number of sendmail > instances that I control. After much googling and reading, it is not > clear to me that a server with SMTP auth configured/enabled can relay > mail in both auth and non-auth modes. > Some of the explanations posted have been Rube Goldberg in the extreme, greatly complicating what should have been a very simple response. A standard FreeBSD server determines relaying through use of the access.db file, as you probably already are aware. If you add in SMTP-auth then the ONLY change is that any client that authenticates in, is exempted from checking the access.db file - by default, they are allowed to relay. It is not necessary to turn on an encrypted channel for SMTP-auth. In fact, the most popular mail clients under Windows - Outlook, only support NTLM encryption on authentication which REQUIRES that the password be in cleartext on the mailserver. OR, you can use SSL encryption for Outlook - however it will require a (costly) commerically-rooted certificate on the server to do SSL or your mail clients won't encrypt without a lot of nasty mucking around on the user's side to install a self-signed root cert in their clients. As for 587, by default sendmail will allow auth on either port 25 or 587 and will allow non-encrypted auth on port 587. The fact of the matter is that the most secure way of running a production setup is to use a completely separate mailserver for AUTH-smtp and to use DIFFERENT userID's/passwords on that server than on the primary mailserver. That way spammers that discover the users e-mail address (which for most ISP's is the same as the userID account) cannot launch dictionary attacks against the SMTP-auth server. And, attackers that sniff a cleartext password on the SMTP-auth channel cannot use that userID to spam the mailserver. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:22:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A411106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4729F8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G8M3Ec085415; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chuck Robey" , "Predrag Punosevac" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:23:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47D96335.9050500@chuckr.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org, Gligor Lucian Subject: RE: USB printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:22:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chuck Robey > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:24 AM > To: Predrag Punosevac > Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian > Subject: Re: USB printer > > > Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others > sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to > agree with > hier(7). I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining > if it hadn't, but then there should have been some small notes detailing > how to install a local driver. The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI configuration software that is written for that desktop that makes CUPS configuration a snap. (and installing foomatic drivers and the like) If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual command line junkie. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:27:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8101065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9119D8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G8R5rl085436; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Dale Shaw" , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:28:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <3329cbb40803121952r344b6e82i96fbbbf666c6ed10@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:27:07 -0000 Sorry for the top post. Over the year's I've had a few boxes that did stuff like this. Putting the same software packages on a different PC that had a different motherboard and cards in it resulted in no lockups. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Dale Shaw > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:52 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard > pressed > > > Hi again all, > > Just an update on my problem (see below). > > I upgraded the box to 6.3-REL and the problem persisted -- exactly the > same behaviour. > > I've narrowed the problem down to nfdump though -- without the NetFlow > collectors (nfcapd) running, the box is rock solid. > > If anyone out there happens to have seen this problem (with nfdump and > friends) before, or has some general advice for troubleshooting > something like this (I suspect some system resource tuning may be > required), please drop me a line. > > In the meantime, I'll head on over to the nfdump list. > > cheers, > Dale > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Kris Kennaway > wrote: > > > > > > Dale Shaw wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > [...] > > > > I have a vanilla 6.2-RELEASE system running a bunch of network > > > > management type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on. > > > > > > > > After a few days of normal operation, the system (locked away in a > > > > data centre) falls off the network. Can't SSH to it, > can't ping it. No > > > > ARP -- gone! I have no OOB access to this machine (it's a test > > > > box/play pen). > > > > > > I have a vague memory of something like this but cannot point to a > > > specific commit that resolved it. > > > > > > Kris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:29:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA6F106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BC48FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.190] (port=51324 helo=smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaoEz-00018K-Qv; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:29:13 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:5000 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JaoEz-0000OV-7n; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:29:13 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6346339877; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:29:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47DCDA58.6080008@boosten.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:29:12 +0100 From: Peter Boosten User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080315-0, 03/15/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: Terry Sposato , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:29:16 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that > a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking > if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? > > If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be > using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think > uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other > normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have > a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX > server. > That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX. There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 08:51:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8FB106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4BA8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-04.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2G8pPQJ026230; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:25 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-04.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2G8pPod024475; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:25 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl102-242.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.109.242]) by MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2G8pJxl019114; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:21 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2G8pHnr096735; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2G8pA4i096734; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:51:10 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20080316085110.GA96298@kobe.laptop> References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:51:29 -0000 On 2008-03-16 18:17, Malcolm Kay wrote: > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > an ISP mail service. I can certainly successfully send mail directly > via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered > name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr > I get a returned mail message which includes the following: > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found) > > It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. > > Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of > mail.whatnot.on.net then I believe the message will be accepted. The domain "on.net" is a valid domain, registered already by: : Internode Systems Pty Ltd : PO Box 284 : Rundle Mall, South Australia 5000 : AU : : Domain Name: ON.NET If you don't own the domain, then it's not surprising that the hostname doesn't exist. You still have a few options: (1) Use masquerading, to rewrite your outgoing email address to one that is valid. My Sendmail installation rewrites `keramida' to `keramida@ceid.upatras.gr', which is a valid address. (2) Use your ISP's mail gateway. It looks like you are trying to post *directly* to the mail servers of FreeBSD.org from an address which doesn't resolve correctly. This is a common spammer trick, so you are blocked if you do that :/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:12:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FD5106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02EE8FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G9C87j085734; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Glen Barber" , , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:13:21 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200803132256.01197.glen.j.barber@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:12:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Glen Barber > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:56 PM > To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE >=20 >=20 > Hello everyone. =20 >=20 > First off, sorry for the double post, but I'm not 100% certain at=20 > where this=20 > post belongs. =20 >=20 > I've found via Google many problems with ndis0 and failure to=20 > find a link in=20 > 6.3-RELEASE, without resolution. So here's my setup. >=20 > I'm using a Broadcom 4318 chipset, with drivers created from=20 > ndisgen. If you=20 > need more specific information on the drivers, I'll be more than happy = to=20 > provide information, however I believe it to be irrelevant at=20 > this moment, as=20 > I have used more than one driver version, with the same results. =20 >=20 > In 6.3-RC1 and below (tested in 6.2-RELEASE, and all -STABLE releases = in=20 > between), my ndis0 adapter works as exptected, using WPA and=20 > DHCP. I can't=20 > pinpoint exaclty what changed (I've check in /usr/src/UPDATING,=20 > as it seemed=20 > to be most relevant), with no avail to finding anything regarding=20 > either wpa=20 > or dhclient. =20 >=20 > Since an upgrade to 6.3-RELEASE (both, via csup and a fresh=20 > install off of=20 > cd), I generate my ndis module, create an /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf,=20 > leaving /etc/dhclient as default, and am prompted with: > ndis0: no link.......... giving up >=20 > Upon 'kldunload bcmwl5.ko; kldload bcmwl5.ko', my ndis0 card=20 > looses all WPA=20 > capabilities. =20 >=20 > What seems to me to be the interesting part is this: > If I 'csup' to 6.3-RELEASE from -RC1, and build a kernel, the=20 > problem does not=20 > occur -- as long as I do not 'buildworld'. However, once I = 'buildworld;=20 > installworld', I am faced with the same problems as if I had installed = > 6.3-RELEASE from cd. =20 >=20 > I would really like to figure out what is causing this (both for=20 > myself, and=20 > the other affected ndis0 victims), but I'm not sure where to look --=20 > dhclient, wpa_supplicant or ndis itself. Any other information I = could=20 > provide, please let me know. =20 >=20 Hi Glen, I just setup my laptop with a wireless card a couple weeks ago and FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. (it's an older Toshiba) I went through a total of 5 different wireless cards before I found one that I was able to get working ndis drivers from ndisgen. Fortunately there's a used computer place near here (freegeek.org) that had a box of pcmcia wireless cards of all different makes and models, which kindly allowed me to plunk down my laptop (which dual-boots between Windows 98 and FreeBSD) and they have wireless. So I would pick a card out of their bin, boot into Windows, download the Windows driver, make sure the card worked under Windows, then boot into FreeBSD and mount the Windows partition, copy over the Windows driver and inf file to the FreeBSD side, run ndisgen and then try loading the driver. With some cards, the driver wouldn't even activate the card. With other cards, the driver would allow me to list the wireless nodes then panic the system when I tried associating. The card that did work was a Realtek-based card. And, it did not work with the most current Windows drivers from the Realtek website, it worked with the Windows drivers that were from a couple years ago. (I found this out quite by accident) Fortunately, they DID also have a number of the Wavelan cards - these are supported natively with the wi0 driver - that worked out of the box. Those cards are only 802.11b though so I kept at it with ndisgen and the newer cards. The interesting thing is that the original wireless card I had in the Toshiba - a Texas Instruments-based chipset model - never really quite worked properly in the Toshiba under Windows. I put it into a different laptop I owned - a Thinkpad, and it worked great in that. Unfortunately, in your case, nothing has changed with ndisgen since 2006 (see = http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ ) so it's not that, it's something else in the system that changed. Start with the basics. Copy your bcmwl5.ko into /boot/modules then in loader.conf put bcmw15_load=3D"YES" and reboot the system, check dmesg, and see if it's even loading Next put in /etc/rc.conf "ifconfig_ndis0=3D"inet 192.168.1.1 ssid = myssid" and see if it even comes up at all and you can ping out (obviously you will have to temporairly turn off wpa on your wireless node, set the correct ssid, and set the correct IP address to hard-code an IP address) If that doesen't work, regen the bcmw15.ko file using the "old" method: # cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis # cd /sys/modules/ndis # make; make load # cd /sys/modules/if_ndis # ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h # make; make load You need to isolate the problem to see if the driver is simply just not working at all under 6.3, or if it is working, but it's a scripting or turnup out of sequence error. And you need to see if wpa has anything to do with it. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:20:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FE1106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cctv.star@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A848FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cctv.star@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so5580467waf.3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:20:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=1MJRmRTTtBz2cMUzehUDdMuH7k05+/5Jo1McIxjvzuw=; b=YWQy+RuYQeGsBPp60gThAtHbaHkfS7LffXnMoGt1pse56xroR0ykSUuqbDEfuUYoFeQ9zLcusz0pUjceUkDBJprbORPFIDx26cQWV9KJuUKMOYxVzGW1xZI511IORnZk4EHYm9npxf4lM3IdG8Jj9bUdn2VmhvoDrHO4jInxZLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qhv0xwI4Foj+qPGQ8m1h7LWlie5+46I6XFQNToAGGcKXpsT94W68x+aPJSPqGwAt6BGXMklM29o41W9ntgxK5kaVMkvCpnTczAGItpesvVr+Pb1c6YnYxI8tlCsYJ1N1O1Xhq//yAHRdoX0dGPzUNnZeSRF+Eo6Uxl+g20FutMQ= Received: by 10.114.126.1 with SMTP id y1mr15306384wac.108.1205657489424; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.121.15 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:51:29 -0700 From: "Vladimir Ch." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: "Bus error: 10 (core dumped)" on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:20:34 -0000 After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting "Bus error: 10". Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but 6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works on the same computer. I use GENERIC kernel. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:22:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1FC1065676 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE758FC19 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G9MCw1085809; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Matthias Apitz" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:23:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080316075738.GA2348@rebelion.Sisis.de> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:22:14 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthias Apitz [mailto:matthias.apitz@oclc.org] > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:58 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? > > > You can also write stuff in Java which only runs on one specific > platform, on Windows, because for example you make references to objects > in the file system as 'help.htm' while in real the file name is > 'Help.htm', or you use specific DLL's for accessing devices which are only > available on Windows :-( > But if your accessing a specific DLL then your no longer Java and thus Sun's marketing isn't lying....... it's just bad programming so the fault isn't Java, it's the programmer.... ;-) (have we had enough fun with this yet) Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:27:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C461065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yoniy@mellanox.co.il) Received: from mellanox.co.il (mail.mellanox.co.il [194.90.237.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D6E8FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yoniy@mellanox.co.il) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MTLPINE1 (envelope-from yoniy@mellanox.co.il) with SMTP; 16 Mar 2008 11:27:15 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:27:15 +0200 Message-ID: <6C2C79E72C305246B504CBA17B5500C9038B0640@mtlexch01.mtl.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: kldload: unexpected relocation type 10 Thread-Index: AciHRxi7h6vHA1nJTE2qqZ+iu1NWUAAAFt+w From: "Yehonatan Yossef" To: Subject: kldload: unexpected relocation type 10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:27:20 -0000 I'm getting tons of this message when loading my module: kldload: unexpected relocation type 10 I'm using a simple Makefile including a slightly modified bsd.kmod.mk (I've removed the -strip-debug flag) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:42:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3B41065673 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DDDC8FC17 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G9gD5q085920; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Vladimir Ch." , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:43:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: "Bus error: 10 (core dumped)" on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Vladimir Ch. > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:51 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: "Bus error: 10 (core dumped)" on FreeBSD 7.0 > > > After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when > trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting "Bus error: 10". > Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but > 6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works > on the same computer. > I use GENERIC kernel. Did you recompile every program on your system after you upgraded to 7.0 or did you just assume that the 6.3 binaries would run unmodified? See: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html "...Updating Existing Systems An upgrade of any existing system to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE constitutes a major version upgrade, so no matter which method you use to update an older system you should reinstall any ports you have installed on the machine. This will avoid binaries becoming linked to inconsistent sets of libraries when future port upgrades rebuild one port but not others that link to it. This can be done with: # portupgrade -faP after updating your system. Note some of the tools to help with this or the instructions below for FreeBSD Update are not installed by default (e.g. portupgrade, gpg, or similar tools like portmaster..." Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 09:47:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CAA106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46C28FC1A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m2G9lFu0085953; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Peter Boosten" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:48:29 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47DCDA58.6080008@boosten.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Terry Sposato , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:47:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Boosten [mailto:peter@boosten.org] > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:29 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Terry Sposato; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that > > a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking > > if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? > > > > If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be > > using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think > > uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other > > normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have > > a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX > > server. > > > > That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX. > There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway. > I figured that was what he was asking, but we should probably hear from him to make sure that this is really what he was asking. Unfortunately, the original post was either from someone who didn't use English as their native language, or they are paying for their Internet connection by-the-byte and were trying to make the question as short as possible, as a result, the entire meaning of the post was lost. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 11:49:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29C91065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (pukruppa.net [213.146.114.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360838FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from pukruppa.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GBnfZF002714; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:49:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Received: from localhost (ulrich@localhost) by pukruppa.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GBne9S002711; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:49:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.net) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:49:40 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Ulrich Kruppa To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080316124409.L1423@pukruppa.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:49:09 -0000 On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Peter Ulrich >> Kruppa >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:05 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java >> based CMS's: >> >> http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems >> >> Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they >> work? > > Java is write-once, run anywhere. As long as they run under the > JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems. > > I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their > literature about Java. Sun says that a language that can only > run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point > of why they wrote Java, according to Sun. I see - you mean I should test myself: Jahia for example installs and works like a charm with diablo-jdk1.5.0 , but the drag-'n-drop and copy-'n-paste features - I would like to see - are commercial. I think I will try another one. Thanks for your help. Uli. ------------------------------------- Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 11:56:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00072106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from hawk.thalamus.net (hawk.thalamus.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAD68FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CBA1EE87E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:56:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at thalamus.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.889 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.889 tagged_above=-999 required=4.2 tests=[AWL=-1.961, HELO_LH_HOME=3.169, MISSING_HEADERS=1.581, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from hawk.thalamus.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hawk.thalamus.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K+27Ozu8ELx9 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:56:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from lesbsdpc01.homenet.home (c-195-216-040-164.cust.thalamus.net [195.216.40.164]) by hawk.thalamus.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4A3D1EE85D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:56:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47DD0AE6.5090705@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:56:22 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080312) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47D7E889.8070100@eskk.nu> <200803151556.53784.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47DC02E8.8090005@eskk.nu> <200803151835.52594.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <47DC1AF1.1090101@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <47DC1AF1.1090101@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Compile error, kde related? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:56:31 -0000 Leslie Jensen skrev: > > Mel skrev: >> On Saturday 15 March 2008 18:10:00 Leslie Jensen wrote: >>>> portupgrade -Rf x11-toolkits/qt33 >>>> If uic still does not show linked to libthr, I have no clue what causes >>>> that on your system. I'd inspect /etc/libmap.conf, /etc/make.conf, the >>>> config.log for qt33 and the final link command that produces the uic >>>> binary. I've tried to make a fresh instal of FreeBSD 7.0 and there is libthr linked as it should be. What I don't understand is that on the system where I have the problem I did a pkg_delete -a after it was upgraded to 7.0, and manually deleted everything left in /usr/local before starting over with the ports. Can I manually link uic to libthr and would it be a clean hack or? /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 12:23:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC7B106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:23:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356438FC1E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GCNRP4036305; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:23:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20080316072211.02623480@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:23:15 -0500 To: "Vladimir Ch." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080316-0, 03/16/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: "Bus error: 10 (core dumped)" on FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:23:42 -0000 At 03:51 AM 3/16/2008, Vladimir Ch. wrote: >After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when >trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting "Bus error: 10". >Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but >6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works >on the same computer. >I use GENERIC kernel. You need to rebuild your ports if you have not done so. You will need to also rebuild any libraries the ports depend on as well. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 13:32:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73703106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::5e5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE6C8FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com ([208.45.246.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m2GDWGfU080135 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m2GDWFJh017975 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:32:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) id m2GDWFdT017974 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:32:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" Message-Id: <200803161332.m2GDWFdT017974@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:32:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cant get system to 0% idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:32:17 -0000 Hi, I have 2 systems, Dual Xenon's, both bought at the same time (1 serial number away from each other). At one time both ran 5.3, and both could get 0% idle (Seti@Home, 4 processes). I've upgraded one to 5.5, and now find ever since then I can't get the system below about 19% idle. (I've even used benchmarks/ubench). Short of the typical "Upgrade to 7" which I can't do (And for those jokers out there, can't go to 6 either).... Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks, Tuc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 13:44:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2B71065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE658FC2F; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47DD2420.3040907@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:44:00 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET" References: <200803161332.m2GDWFdT017974@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> In-Reply-To: <200803161332.m2GDWFdT017974@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cant get system to 0% idle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:44:00 -0000 Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: > Hi, > > I have 2 systems, Dual Xenon's, both bought at the same time (1 > serial number away from each other). At one time both ran 5.3, and both > could get 0% idle (Seti@Home, 4 processes). I've upgraded one to 5.5, > and now find ever since then I can't get the system below about 19% idle. > (I've even used benchmarks/ubench). > > Short of the typical "Upgrade to 7" which I can't do (And for > those jokers out there, can't go to 6 either).... Any ideas why this is > happening? Because you're running FreeBSD 5? Seriously. "SMP performance" and "FreeBSD 5.x" don't belong together in the same sentence. Even if you don't like that advice, it is true. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 13:48:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBB7106567E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F778FC30 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id AAA08206; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:48:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:48:23 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20080316074731.2BBB710656F2@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Razmig K , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:48:50 -0000 On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:16:12 -0500 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Mar 16), Razmig K said: > > With IPFW enabled in the kernel, I'd like to use the NAT functionality of > > user-ppp instead of natd. Do I need the IPDIVERT option in the kernel and > > the special arrangement of divert and skipto rules in the ruleset? Or, a > > non-NATed ruleset (as demonstrated in handbook section 28.6.5.6) would > > suffice? > > > > If divert rules are necessary, what argument do I need to pass to action > > divert in place of natd? > > If you mean the "nat enable yes" option in ppp.conf, that is done > completely within the user-ppp daemon (using the same libalias libarary > that natd uses). Since user-ppp creates its own tun# device, it can > call the NAT functions as it processes packets to/from that device > without needing IPFW divert rules. True, though if you're running FreeBSD 7 you can instead use ipfw(8)'s new in-kernel NAT, which uses the same libalias and semantics. Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded, as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls, even in the handbook. ('legacy', indeed :) And while being frank .. the present ipfw section in the handbook needs rewriting in large part. It contains undue deprecation, misconceptions, outdated information and some straight up errors, both of principle and usage. Using rc.firewall as a base example (modulo needing to permit appropriate icmp traffic) and a fair study of ipfw(8) should yield a better firewall, with or without NAT - certainly a more comprehensible and flexible one - than the examples in that section. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 13:55:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E211065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD50F8FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:55:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsFAP7A3Ed5LVPJ/2dsb2JhbACBWqUp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,508,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="76876238" Received: from ppp121-45-83-201.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.83.201]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2008 00:25:38 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Erik Trulsson Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:26:07 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316081607.GA19264@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080316081607.GA19264@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:55:46 -0000 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > > an ISP mail service. > > Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail > server? Sounds good, but how? > > > I can certainly successfully send mail directly > > via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered > > name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr > > I get a returned mail message which includes the following: > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > (reason: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found) > > > > It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. > > > > Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of mail.whatnot.on.net > > then I believe the message will be accepted. > > Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to > the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted. > > > > > So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to work with > > the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the rout that > > will be followed by any responses. > > > > Is there a better way around the difficulty. > > You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real > hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use. Yes; somewhat cumbersome although it also gains some other advantages. Thank you, Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 14:37:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0701065673 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC7A8FC20 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:50564 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Jatz5-0003yA-65 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 63221 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 15:37:08 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 15:37:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 35446 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2008 15:37:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:08 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20080316143708.GA35250@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Malcolm Kay , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316081607.GA19264@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Jatz5-0003yA-65. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Jatz5-0003yA-65 824f4f21fac9540d7a2e702a6b1d3158 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:13 -0000 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:07AM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > > > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > > > an ISP mail service. > > > > Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail > > server? > > Sounds good, but how? I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but go to /etc/mail/ and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc file. Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which files are used. Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful information. > > > > > > I can certainly successfully send mail directly > > > via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered > > > name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr > > > I get a returned mail message which includes the following: > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > > > (reason: 450 4.7.1 : Helo command rejected: Host not found) > > > > > > It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. > > > > > > Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of mail.whatnot.on.net > > > then I believe the message will be accepted. > > > > Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to > > the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted. > > > > > > > > So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to work with > > > the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the rout that > > > will be followed by any responses. > > > > > > Is there a better way around the difficulty. > > > > You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real > > hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use. > > Yes; somewhat cumbersome although it also gains some other advantages. > > Thank you, > Malcolm -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 14:37:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A1D1065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de (mo-p07-ob.rzone.de [81.169.146.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834D18FC32 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uwe@laverenz.de) X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: l30WrtbrzmfyRJtZ7/TtK2qIdZIgjE9K4Q55TXGhenj8TX/T1uwXx72N6A3KHw== Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([91.66.27.25]) by post.webmailer.de (fruni mo62) (RZmta 16.10) with ESMTP id v050d6k2G9TW9u for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:54 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from: ) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDC057C00A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from athena.laverenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (athena [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12820-04 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by athena.laverenz.de (Postfix, from userid 2000) id DA9C857C009; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:37:51 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316143751.GA12554@laverenz.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <015101c88732$4d10f290$e732d7b0$@com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <015101c88732$4d10f290$e732d7b0$@com.au> Organization: private site Sender: uwe@laverenz.de User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at laverenz.de Subject: Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:57 -0000 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 05:52:27PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote: > Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port > vmware-tools to FreeBSD. I don't know if somebody is actually preparing an official port of http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ but I don't think it's too difficult to compile and run them on FreeBSD 7.0. I hope I'll find the time to test this soon but I wouldn't be able to roll a port without some help. :) > As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are > being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers > follow as well. If you're using FreeBSD 6.x, you can use the vmware-tools that come with VMware server 1.04. I tested them with 6.2/amd64 and 6.3/amd64 and they work fine (vmmemctl.ko and vmware-guestd), including VMotion. > It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to > FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not No, it's not a licensing issue, since vmware-tools are released as open source now. I guess it's simply lack of interest and that there aren't many ESX users who are using FreeBSD as a platform. FreeBSD is not an "enterprise" system, you know... :-/ Uwe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 15:18:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F2B1065673 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddata@davids-website.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F698FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddata@davids-website.com) X-Trace: 30055226/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/nildram-customers/62.3.226.102 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddata@davids-website.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAEPX3Ec+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbACmZA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 15:18:00 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C6911465 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:17:58 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:17:21 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161517.21716.ltcddata@davids-website.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:18:02 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote: Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content and it is crash again.... I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have tried. After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this sooner... LtCdData oops!! posting this again due to not having the correct addy set _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 15:25:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A271065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddata@davids-website.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181E08FC1E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddata@davids-website.com) X-Trace: 30039736/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/nildram-customers/62.3.226.102 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddata@davids-website.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGjR3Ec+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbACmaA X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 14:56:00 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B0311465 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:55:57 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:55:20 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:25:28 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote: Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has more or less become a necessity. I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to. So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within the first 10 minutes of use. So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? Caveats? Comments? Advice? I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also. Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content and it is crash again.... I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have tried. After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this sooner... LtCdData _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 15:43:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43366106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (gw.tensor.gdynia.pl [213.192.64.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706C58FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GFbmZx014693; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:37:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GFbIb1014646; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:37:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:37:18 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080316163701.B14645@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Razmig K , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:43:46 -0000 > Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded, > as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls, what's wrong in userland natd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 16:03:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589EB1065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA658FC19 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57461 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JavKR-0008Rr-4S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:03:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 63668 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 17:03:18 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 17:03:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 35977 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Mar 2008 17:03:17 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:03:17 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20080316160317.GA35937@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Wojciech Puchar , Ian Smith , Razmig K , Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20080316163701.B14645@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080316163701.B14645@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JavKR-0008Rr-4S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JavKR-0008Rr-4S 1cacff77bc4001224037b53c74cc6afd Cc: Razmig K , Dan Nelson , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:03:21 -0000 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 04:37:18PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded, >> as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls, > > what's wrong in userland natd? Performance. With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back again (causing another context switch). This will be slower and use more CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 16:15:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F377F106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59718FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr10.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GGFZCg020731; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F253BB832; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: LtCdData Message-ID: <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: LtCdData , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:15:38 -0000 --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: >=20 > So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on > YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, > I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the > mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within > the first 10 minutes of use. >=20 > So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of > Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? > Caveats? Comments? Advice? For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and mplayer to play them. Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos =66rom several sites. =20 > I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not see= n a=20 > solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native= =20 > firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted= =20 > flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is > also. I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdR6YACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWm1gCdGCFi+XopdagLc7MOQqPSimGf HlwAn2e7ttY9D9pZefXQ+xBZf1eHv8+c =ni4o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 16:39:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FB0106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tkjacobsen@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473E98FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:39:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tkjacobsen@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so4333514fgg.35 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:39:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=BaRJKnf5TlO9qrbackoz7v6faBYxx8l5nEYBz3ZeqPU=; b=SQ5l8JYXLfzYUKtCbxmJVakX8YTlMypmip3KqT7RgjLn+igSFsnaN44sJi0Y+mcs0JX79ePw3UJFDit5N6NfgT4Z7k3eMab5kdU2LxlbOJBS55C5j4/KBxGuWdQ1vPyCco7brRD3A8XzW0kybKWoa8nuW3rgOIx0uyD/ZBXayEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; b=Sz6B+kyqdZpacstAk2dE+RDyRspYR1an78WN+NJFtVJypDBai/6g0QSwTVLyAJMzm+/mTIQVhY0gJmX8df07vI+3/fQJA622VpBu5PKtbaCIQcCULPWPDpp5euRnHo5+tdgkYXKVgh/fVXN2C2kpL0P0yBNl3PJSCzgpbT4W1jM= Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr33567646buc.8.1205683919155; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from @ ( [212.99.255.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm17809104fgb.8.2008.03.16.09.11.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:12:22 +0100 From: Troels Kofoed Jacobsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316161222.GA17723@photon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: HDD missing from sysinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:39:16 -0000 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > When I put in my fbsd 6.3 or 7.0 install disk sysinstall is unable to > detect any of the hard drives in my computer. > > This is includes SATA and IDE HDDs in varying orders. BIOS is able > to detect the the hard drives. I Previously had fbsd 6.2 installed > on them and the problem started when I upgraded the kernel to 6.3 > although I don't see my upgrades relevance as I have tried to > reinstall from a clean disk since then. I have the exact same problem on an Asus P5N-E sli board. I have two ide harddrives, two ide optical drives and one sata harddisk connected. After trying to boot FreeBSD 7.0, which gives me "No disks found", i cannot boot in freebsd 6.2 or linux anymore. I have to reboot with the ide harddisks disconnected. And then erboot again (with drives reconnected) before my machine can boot again. (Then both freebsd 6.2 and linxu works again) This is not a problem in the installer but in the kernel as i get the same result when upgrading (both to 7.0 and 8.0-current) I thing thes is a very severe problem/bug/regression.. I dont dare to try FreeBSD on a laptop where i cannot disconnect the drives as easily. dmesg from 6.2 attached. I cannot find a way to provide dmesg from 7.0 from the install cd (disk 1 -- i cannot mount livefs as optical drives are also not found) Best Regards Troels -- Troels Kofoed Jacobsen tkjacobsen@gmail.com tel: +45 20880798 --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2400.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd,CX16,,> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Cores per package: 2 real memory = 2146369536 (2046 MB) avail memory = 2095267840 (1998 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR acpi_bus_number: can't get _ADR Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 0.7 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.2 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.4 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 1.6 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.0 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 2.2 (no driver attached) pcib1: at device 3.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) pcib2: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 atapci0: port 0xdf00-0xdf07,0xde00-0xde03,0xdd00-0xdd07,0xdc00-0xdc03,0xdb00-0xdb0f mem 0xfd9fe000-0xfd9fffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 1 ports detected ata2: on atapci0 pci0: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at device 10.1 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 10.2 (no driver attached) ohci0: mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02ffff at device 11.0 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: nVidia OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfe02e000-0xfe02e0ff at device 11.1 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: EHCI version 1.0 usb1: companion controller, 8 ports each: usb0 usb1: on ehci0 usb1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1: nVidia EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfd00-0xfd0f at device 13.0 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 atapci2: port 0x9f0-0x9f7,0xbf0-0xbf3,0x970-0x977,0xb70-0xb73,0xf800-0xf80f mem 0xfe02d000-0xfe02dfff irq 20 at device 14.0 on pci0 ata3: on atapci2 ata4: on atapci2 atapci3: port 0x9e0-0x9e7,0xbe0-0xbe3,0x960-0x967,0xb60-0xb63,0xf300-0xf30f mem 0xfe02c000-0xfe02cfff irq 21 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata5: on atapci3 ata6: on atapci3 pcib5: at device 16.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 fwohci0: port 0xbf00-0xbf7f mem 0xfdbff000-0xfdbff7ff at device 8.0 on pci5 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:11:d8:00:01:26:eb:74 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: on fwohci0 fwe0: on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:11:d8:26:eb:74 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:11:d8:26:eb:74 fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant sbp0: on firewire0 fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) pci0: at device 16.1 (no driver attached) nve0: port 0xf200-0xf207 mem 0xfe02b000-0xfe02bfff irq 23 at device 20.0 on pci0 nve0: Ethernet address 00:1a:92:63:18:e7 miibus0: on nve0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto nve0: Ethernet address: 00:1a:92:63:18:e7 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xd0000-0xd3fff,0xd4000-0xd5fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 uhub2: Cypress Semiconductor Combi keyboard Hub ref design V1.74, class 9/0, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ums0: SONY USB Mouse, rev 1.10/2.00, addr 3, iclass 3/1 ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 156334MB at ata0-master UDMA133 ad1: 78167MB at ata0-slave UDMA133 acd0: DMA limited to UDMA33, device found non-ATA66 cable acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA33 acd1: CDRW at ata1-slave UDMA33 ad6: 238475MB at ata3-master SATA150 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 16:42:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75B91065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814A48FC2C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so3290225wra.13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=RlRqzhB/H4IfWiHMnHTYiGzT3REDa0xtH5vWKEmT5Q0=; b=Navsz8sXfl82FozUhjtiGYiTm4OfqLLkCgEdJVNSJegJiPcbE1JNmEoWraRn6oBA93oOJxMH0bMSGCMbCM+N8pHBSb5eBXoArA+VPBiqLCzE0+xQlRAaiaOdii9hsbJW9bvHMm9GiOwn+M953WfpazTpGfdQicvB9eZotFYL5h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=YoGlgRVBUNS+QqXKkoQi1Tf4jrenu86A78O8HJiitVwyqLK5Yb32SZXhG/jQguKHQR2gBmHVKRPak/TM3nFo8IXRS///PSPYlDrxnVnMkFQSVJE/oog0Ment2ytEkBR0u4kk4fpc8kqJm2HqVf3vtF/uILZjFEfghQoLi9VzITs= Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr16024315waf.58.1205685755665; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexidigital.org ( [24.229.62.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i39sm9177330wxd.27.2008.03.16.09.42.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gbarber by hexidigital.org with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JavwI-0000Ei-M5; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:42:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:42:26 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316164226.GA658@orion.hexidigital.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200803132256.01197.glen.j.barber@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: Re: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:42:37 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt said: > > I just setup my laptop with a wireless card a couple weeks > ago and FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. (it's an older Toshiba) > > I went through a total of 5 different wireless cards before > I found one that I was able to get working ndis drivers from > ndisgen. Fortunately there's a used computer place near here > (freegeek.org) that had a box of pcmcia wireless cards of all > different makes and models, which kindly allowed me to plunk > down my laptop (which dual-boots between Windows 98 and FreeBSD) > and they have wireless. So I would pick a card out of their bin, > boot into Windows, download the Windows driver, make sure the > card worked under Windows, then boot into FreeBSD and mount > the Windows partition, copy over the Windows driver and inf > file to the FreeBSD side, run ndisgen and then try loading the > driver. > > With some cards, the driver wouldn't even activate the card. > With other cards, the driver would allow me to list the wireless > nodes then panic the system when I tried associating. > > The card that did work was a Realtek-based card. And, it did > not work with the most current Windows drivers from the Realtek > website, it worked with the Windows drivers that were from a couple > years ago. (I found this out quite by accident) > > Fortunately, they DID also have a number of the Wavelan > cards - these are supported natively with the wi0 driver - > that worked out of the box. Those cards are only 802.11b > though so I kept at it with ndisgen and the newer cards. > > The interesting thing is that the original wireless card I > had in the Toshiba - a Texas Instruments-based chipset model - > never really quite worked properly in the Toshiba under Windows. > I put it into a different laptop I owned - a Thinkpad, and > it worked great in that. > > Unfortunately, in your case, nothing has changed with ndisgen > since 2006 (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ ) > so it's not that, it's something else in the system that changed. > > Start with the basics. Copy your bcmwl5.ko into /boot/modules > then in loader.conf put bcmw15_load="YES" and reboot the system, > check dmesg, and see if it's even loading > > Next put in /etc/rc.conf "ifconfig_ndis0="inet 192.168.1.1 ssid myssid" > and see if it even comes up at all and you can ping out (obviously > you will have to temporairly turn off wpa on your wireless node, > set the correct ssid, and set the correct IP address to hard-code an > IP address) > > If that doesen't work, regen the bcmw15.ko file using the "old" > method: > > # cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis > # cd /sys/modules/ndis > # make; make load > # cd /sys/modules/if_ndis > # ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h > # make; make load > > You need to isolate the problem to see if the driver is simply > just not working at all under 6.3, or if it is working, but it's > a scripting or turnup out of sequence error. And you need to > see if wpa has anything to do with it. > Hi Ted. Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, until I either get time to resize my hard disk and add a separate freebsd installation, or I figure out how to undo a buildworld, looks like I'm stuck. It's my school laptop, so I kind of need to get work done. ;) (I am able to run a 6.3-RELEASE kernel, but the 'world' is 6.3-RC1.) Regarding older drivers: Yes, I had this problem with my current chipset in 6.2-RELEASE. This is why I was so surprised I had problems with 6.3-RELEASE. Either way, I appreciate your response. Cheers. -- Glen Barber http://www.dev-urandom.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 17:04:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B81106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89788FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24281CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:04:11 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:00:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> In-Reply-To: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161800.23829.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:04:13 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 08:47:47 Malcolm Kay wrote: > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > an ISP mail service. No. It assumes that the variable MAIL_AGENT in the environment is capable of sending mail and if /unset/ uses sendmail. Have a look at the mail/smail port and set MAIL_AGENT accordingly in environment. This can be done permanently for all users, by adding the variable to the setenv entry in the default listing in /etc/login.conf and running cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf afterwards. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 17:16:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49463106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:16:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E58368FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:16:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m2GHHRB1006052 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:22 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:16:49 -0000 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and > mplayer to play them. I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample to find out what's it like. Urg. > Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download > videos from several sites. The same CON. > I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people tend to ignore modern internet. Flash (or flash-like) webcontent will not go away. Not for quite a while i.m.h.o. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 17:25:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61084106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FD78FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GHLVOg020511; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:21:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GHKClm020502; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:21:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:20:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Trulsson In-Reply-To: <20080316160317.GA35937@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20080316181837.S20499@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080316163701.B14645@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20080316160317.GA35937@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Razmig K , Dan Nelson , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:25:28 -0000 >> >> what's wrong in userland natd? > > Performance. With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd > must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back > again (causing another context switch). This will be slower and use more > CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches. true, anyway for my two 2Mbps symmetric connection (all for nat), and three 4/0.5Mbit connections (part for nat, mostly for squid) all natd processes takes at most 3 percent of single core (core2duo). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 17:37:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E3810656E2 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36288FC21 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so3313192wra.13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.193.1 with SMTP id q1mr16114571waf.75.1205689044183; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m6sm29562460wrm.35.2008.03.16.10.37.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:37:03 -0400 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-6.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/WXeuzR1j4ngM/==EmU1FwOr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:37:41 -0000 --Sig_/WXeuzR1j4ngM/==EmU1FwOr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: > >=20 > > So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on > > YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, > > I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the > > mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within > > the first 10 minutes of use. > >=20 > > So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of > > Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? > > Caveats? Comments? Advice? >=20 > For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and > mplayer to play them. >=20 > Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download > videos from several sites. That kind of sucks. The idea is to simply click on a link and have it work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on other operating systems is regression not progress. > > I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have > > not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, > > gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success, > > however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for > > myself, fully working flash 9 is also. >=20 > I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. The simple fact that a site or precess requires 'flash' to display correctly does not insinuate that the object is an advertisement. There are several browser based add-ons that can handle to various degrees pop-up advertisements, etc. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net Schizophrenia beats being alone. --Sig_/WXeuzR1j4ngM/==EmU1FwOr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdWscACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMmcDACgtR3oixBv8S84JJzYtRVt0xkN hzAAn26oZTPRePTKQmdLw25ZFUf33gkV =WmHL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/WXeuzR1j4ngM/==EmU1FwOr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:00:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D4810656A4 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitcoes@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCCF8FC27 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mitcoes@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so6167663fka.11 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j83C5jLrLiYZLFfDjWShULmaRgVc2dUDFVNJXSc1oSA=; b=aLuqiXWzZQ31R6UfU6sKtT+LL8kOLdUN2veCpFgy1gdmWEVfqx9Y2iSrbrthtoUV/b9950qWAa8kHwEfMy1OFZxo2DrDu+nUEye3n671CdnsLJ53EkabJBWMdS3Y94pKAxmCbLDqnv66Q1BoKvfBW92TdFTYj29YjuH7BiJcM2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Kp5S13c9cxVqUiRKZ20+gM/fSSi7qb5Tl8sEh+7Zj9W/fajjcXq4G1/avUy1Ab+AdwUkoSjHN/qlkY4q0ZB4EXY5rh8yixmcVTzY9lS5xnLvxK744s1D/gqk9oOKhbI5Yx6J6NqCliBiazatbh7d27l6Uk4WRn9P8xyvDdhhEhg= Received: by 10.82.161.19 with SMTP id j19mr33726182bue.9.1205688964778; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?81.202.39.245? ( [81.202.39.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b36sm8543964ika.2.2008.03.16.10.36.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:35:58 +0100 From: Miguel Mayol i Tur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:00:10 -0000 I do like to try free OSs and distributions Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? I cannot understand why not on these days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:12:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33D71065674 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC5C8FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70FD1CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:12:20 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:12:17 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47D7E889.8070100@eskk.nu> <47DC1AF1.1090101@eskk.nu> <47DD0AE6.5090705@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <47DD0AE6.5090705@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161912.18248.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Compile error, kde related? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:12:22 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 12:56:22 Leslie Jensen wrote: > Leslie Jensen skrev: > > Mel skrev: > >> On Saturday 15 March 2008 18:10:00 Leslie Jensen wrote: > >>>> portupgrade -Rf x11-toolkits/qt33 > >>>> If uic still does not show linked to libthr, I have no clue what > >>>> causes that on your system. I'd inspect /etc/libmap.conf, > >>>> /etc/make.conf, the config.log for qt33 and the final link command > >>>> that produces the uic binary. > > I've tried to make a fresh instal of FreeBSD 7.0 and there is libthr > linked as it should be. What I don't understand is that on the system > where I have the problem I did a pkg_delete -a after it was upgraded to > 7.0, and manually deleted everything left in /usr/local before starting > over with the ports. > > Can I manually link uic to libthr and would it be a clean hack or? Nope. But I would be interested to see what the line is that compiles uic. And what configure produces. I still think there's something '6.x-ish' going on here, but without knowing how uic gets built, it's anyone's guess. Could you try the following: cd /usr/ports/x11/qt33 make clean mkdir /var/log/portbuilds make build >/var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log 2>&1 make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS >> /var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log cat `make -V WRKSRC`/config.log \ >>/var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log Then put that log up somewhere if you have webspace, or try to find references to '-pthread', 'libpthread', 'libthr' and the final link command that makes uic. It's probably some setting you have or some stray library that causes this and until you get it resolved, you can't trust any threaded application you build from ports. Or, it's specific for qt, but I highly doubt that. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:13:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909571065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9993A8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GICG60081530; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:12:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GIC7Sv081527; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:12:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:12:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Miguel Mayol i Tur In-Reply-To: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080316191102.I81523@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:13:16 -0000 me too. but download all CD's, copy all of them to one place, perform cd directory_where_you_copied_things mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -R -o /path_to_DVD_image . then record DVD image On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote: > I do like to try free OSs and distributions > Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? > I cannot understand why not on these days. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:17:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC4F106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CE98FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3272082rvb.43 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:17:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:list-id:user-agent; bh=C6EzkjTOmrr6XJsoTDkIiFQhOriTnKSe4qQPJodbXs0=; b=MOB6NYiXUoTjg7MVi5ya9o+Rcb/yeiqXTMLBnOJFy30t7fEmysfnbAX5Y+DA+Oh1KMiJrvYcUhHzv8O0Ee8uDoL17F86ffU1AgQhUPdBxDLD0xLoS62z02vMg6tNUOZynf6JdU2DtLhooyF4xsBq8VKUzJ29SP/0ea+1aqE7xy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:list-id:user-agent; b=OVncA4+wGEK9JA3rz6kDf2xEaClefYASTyk6G5S0vc5ZBP/Xq1w6OBYiXKd5Q9DcIDXrlYP3WFf6bcSpcX1pFj3bN16yubqHE5QSgJDVP2FqjYpYoknz61XicM/m1sVMjyNLLWisXgbA5H2CEtCkz3rW0lwVDHEYgMS4EbHqNuM= Received: by 10.140.88.11 with SMTP id l11mr7229104rvb.237.1205691449687; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexidigital.org ( [24.229.62.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i15sm7487587wxd.17.2008.03.16.11.17.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gbarber by hexidigital.org with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JaxQD-0001Dj-Tu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:17:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:17:25 -0400 From: Glen Barber To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316181725.GA4474@orion.hexidigital.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:31 -0000 Miguel Mayol i Tur said: > I do like to try free OSs and distributions > Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? > I cannot understand why not on these days. I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD installer. If everyone is so intent on using the "latest and greatest", why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than using ports? Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB DVD. Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall. -- Glen Barber (570)328-0318 http://www.dev-urandom.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:33:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29801065676 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9598FC19 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr17.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GIX9WC038908; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:33:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 23EEAB832; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:33:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:33:09 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20080316183309.GA30312@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Dick Hoogendijk , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:33:12 -0000 --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:22PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 > Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and > > mplayer to play them. >=20 > I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make > movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first > just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample > to find out what's it like. Urg. You could contribute to the development of gnash. The first beta (0.8.2) is just out. > And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through > glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people > tend to ignore modern internet. That's because it is not a FreeBSD issue. It's a ports issue. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdZ+UACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXWOwCdG1u4ZSlGC6p4bRvoSZTXwmrv vzAAn3u27/Bb9eq9xGVHlCd4jE0NGIRD =WlWg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:34:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A016106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081C58FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3276030rvb.43 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wHVwvnIyHn15jjW8yakz6fs7BkM8WbPu72FDaGo1rLA=; b=Tc4nczFr3pfjCP+Ah4mcTR1LqDfh8FZIu/h+l/LPpGZqYwBvdiqme4URTYmBe0GOtIsobfkzE4vYNmlvNy0C4SMkCZiWUkVDrZvx+lQSSGdx/jHxE1+mre8pxZlrpIv/sBr/6hBcaCT5zhqUuARte3fqelmsk3pDeCkFp9thxL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KXwvPs6yCai1BKRQMzL3g+p4omU8xBjGIsCFejR47XNiQHm/TqAkGOZhyQhWXOQc/FzbwEwS1QK2t6PoN5tABJZkbzOuyDFSEVduNhZusA+ZNVQtAvlhvKCI8pS72k4/vx+aK2z9r4r/d2lQQrlcYQ+EQU84vz2RLf+Xx37Ma0Q= Received: by 10.140.165.21 with SMTP id n21mr7239963rve.257.1205692475392; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:34:35 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Dick Hoogendijk" In-Reply-To: <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:34:37 -0000 On 16/03/2008, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >I think it's a pity fbsd people > tend to ignore modern internet. I think it's a pity that "modern internet" tends to ignore rfc1855, but that won't likely soon change, so put modern internet on a boat with a reliably diverse cast of likewise depthed, fully formed personas (we need mini-bios in lieu of the forward giving painfully incon- sequential details about his/her/its sexuality, helpfully providing inter-linear Kobaian anagrams) and let them eat each other down to the lone, plucky survivor: Steve Howe. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:42:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B7A106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (smtp.ipv6.xs4all.nl [IPv6:2001:888:0:15::25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA1C8FC18 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GIgcwC018497 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3B0A6B832; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:38 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080316184238.GB30312@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:42:41 -0000 --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:37:03PM -0400, Gerard wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100 > Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: > > >=20 > > > So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on > > > YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part, > > > I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the > > > mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within > > > the first 10 minutes of use. > > >=20 > > > So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of > > > Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop? > > > Caveats? Comments? Advice? > >=20 > > For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and > > mplayer to play them. > >=20 > > Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download > > videos from several sites. >=20 > That kind of sucks. The idea is to simply click on a link and have it > work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on > other operating systems is regression not progress. You are welcome to contribute to the development of a flash player. Gnash has just gone to beta: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdah4ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUqUQCfb3R/j3XtPdekt+jMzD+3d2hX wooAnA0XFT0h4sg5xg+uf1sDxgUgho6g =mgdd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 18:46:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E099E106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:46:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5754B8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (athedsl-156463.home.otenet.gr [85.75.154.205]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m2GIkOcE024932; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:46:25 +0200 Message-ID: <47DD6B00.1090604@otenet.gr> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:46:24 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel Mayol i Tur References: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:46:28 -0000 Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote: > I do like to try free OSs and distributions > Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? > I cannot understand why not on these days. http://www.tuxdistro.com/download.php?id=921&name=FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE-DVD-ISO.torrent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:02:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDBC1065676 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:02:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920868FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so4840338wfa.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:02:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hTGG5ZhfMXQbnDwPttCZZKY24Douv4tgpr3QzBwo32Y=; b=OH18A5bQP8i2TUTnxo4bOsSlmCINxxu2XBOk961coQeET+Z4Yfx7PQKOe3YkMQY80lrdZJDoWtjnXZuMgX14gSphZHi/qM2PdAxuX8BPMHySDd5GCy+hXJmDlDZFZ42dKx29GBmn+ls82VDfHTCxGQIat0FX7hD9ywO402deJr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TjJBurpTP0eK3Ivosl4zvGLCOaSNdNthsLHVwyRrdpZH2NhlP8DhqhP0IiH6402WPj7HJQ3cEKe7eIJIe+HpphiqM9IRIPfAC31EptQWZg9ONPY6+OVXTUvVho5ao7DxyLX8UsBBLLzKEIbZS7sBcUsgTmAM1B0M0hA7EOo3jRA= Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr5640246wfh.217.1205692411830; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.155.9 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520803161133t24004fbatc530b81f8d96a21f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:33:31 -0500 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:02:43 -0000 I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to make us a native FreeBSD version. I bought into the whole FreeBSD is not popular enough thing for awhile, but then I thought wait a minute. Nvidia has a FreeBSD binary Driver, surely there are more FreeBSD users that want to browse the web with flash that there is own nvidia cards. Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:04:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2430106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@alt.seamanpaper.com) Received: from manta.dnsvelocity.com (serv122.idagroup-us.com [64.18.205.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA8B8FC17 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeff@alt.seamanpaper.com) Received: from [32.141.247.29] (helo=Inbox) by manta.dnsvelocity.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JasjF-0004bl-50; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:16:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Jeff Dickens Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:16:57 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Terry Sposato , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - manta.dnsvelocity.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alt.seamanpaper.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20080316190455.BEA8B8FC17@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:04:56 -0000 I use the vmware tools for freebsd from the free vmware server product for= my esx-hoster freebsd servers. The good people at vmware are apparently n= ot interested in adding "official" freebsd support to esx. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Sposato Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD Hi, =20 Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port vmware-tools to FreeBSD. As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD server= s follow as well. =20 It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? No= t being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? =20 Regards, =20 Terry =20 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:05:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8B106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:05:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from itsuki.fkraiem.org (itsuki.fkraiem.org [213.251.134.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE48C8FC2E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from nobue (LPuteaux-151-42-40-134.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.191.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by itsuki.fkraiem.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GIloHB000934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:47:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) From: Firas Kraiem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:47:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> Cc: Subject: 7.0 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:05:28 -0000 Greetings I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it is under heavy network load (downloading at several megabytes/second). Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, so ideas would be much appreciated. Firas -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments GnuPG public key: http://itsuki.fkraiem.org/gpgkey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD68E106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276DA8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-01.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GJTWGa029549; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:32 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (mx-in-01.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.23]) by mx-av-03.forthnet.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2GJTWQC021492; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:32 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl127-166.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.246.166]) by MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GJTTQh009653; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:31 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-01.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GJTR3P002788; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2GJTICd002787; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:29:18 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20080316192918.GA2765@kobe.laptop> References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316081607.GA19264@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:29:35 -0000 On 2008-03-17 00:26, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > > > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > > > an ISP mail service. > > > > Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail > > server? > > Sounds good, but how? Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :) Then run: # cd /etc/mail # make && make install # make restart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:48:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947A1106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailist@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (whoweb.com [66.180.172.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A998FC1E for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailist@whoweb.com) Received: from whoweb.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by whoweb.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2GK3Rg2059874 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailist@localhost) by whoweb.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2GK3RW2059873 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:03:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:03:27 -0500 (EST) From: Incoming Mail List Message-Id: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:48:30 -0000 I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, disk space isn't infinite...uh-huh. >I do like to try free OSs and distributions >Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? >I cannot understand why not on these days. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 19:56:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323A9106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omar@heedme.com) Received: from obstinate.heedme.com (obstinate.heedme.com [64.194.244.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D12EA8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omar@heedme.com) Received: from obstinate.heedme.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by obstinate.heedme.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GJehZR096529 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (omar@localhost) by obstinate.heedme.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GJeg1e096526 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:40:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Omar Siddique To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Shuffling GEOM mirror components X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:10 -0000 Hi folks, I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage. I was wondering how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a mirror. Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware. What's now ad6 becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6. What's the recommended way to do this, or does it "just work" when GEOM discovers the providers in their new locations? > gmirror status Name Status Components mirror/odata COMPLETE ad6 ad7 I checked manpages and handbook but didn't see any info there. (running on FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE) thanks, -omar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:03:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D4E106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313698FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7071CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:02:58 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:02:55 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> In-Reply-To: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:03:00 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: > I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, disk > space isn't infinite...uh-huh. Easy to bitch, ain't it? Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a proper use of resources. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:07:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B302106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401A98FC14 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so4864651wfa.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=VG/XnJkEP3cJdHX3s7C1xGu60E+YC+WjRj23KZiKqBI=; b=ScUgufOLeq0xZQm/d+CJXvkZffE/AhKMnIVgMqARopW0xUHX0TYjNEd5CmoCF56E1yc/jCLlhJsQIBkrFoXDYm3OuP8e9VyaS73d/jrjOjQs2qL/luiYyj3yqQb4EQiFrEM5pOS/iwFCbUC9zWoDDQE0A29HUpKrLcJ1lY8JqII= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S02eeVCbqJQ+ZwMAyIonV+IV7APBsyxOr9Z8mG51We67lkCemCMd/6/e5djrrPcTSfG7F5u/MSQWTNGT8EWgydffYGRISP5pe8BOs/M+9OkFuyNcRMQsZpMO/0ou6f4TUTd+vVySyrb7bN8tIL6PIXiowNY7gzi3mpP2yIWArqI= Received: by 10.142.188.4 with SMTP id l4mr5665890wff.151.1205698073160; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.155.9 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11167f520803161307o280aba4fla0f33b69e58e4417@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:07:53 -0400 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:07:54 -0000 Hello, my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default? or do Ihave to compile that support in the kernel Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File Server / Wireless AP http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wireless.html if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know Sam Fourman Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:10:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E26106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6661E8FC1A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3298640rvb.43 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:10:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=acnQRr8qb16fCjsJsluCDjjC+CALHJXt1tC+gTJ4d14=; b=XQm+9Ze0YmzMUx7YPoIqyNFYHt0lgk13Ld3RfZYcdX7KkxYpj8kLTDyD6XPHxovjMz2cgWd+N5elzmszgVu5ys4s0e3J5nWDk137r6zz8aSLZ1kaWDJyo/26HPeArYyTiGZlp6oYNd29h+266Y8zSw1qnoNR2NCpNqRw8hbwneI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=je2rvcrTpI8eDO/23V42WSa4uE9A2kHU4DwcxefJ7j/SkB/cWKpi1AbnPbb+DgK7IyI/Mk2rK5PElFDZVgtTFSuAA7A6nFnhIXAid1/zmHkRS9UvXM2CWoxxtdNVLC6oZvq4ahu0Qq+rpqoUfEvDCKA9UW5SRCpFZPW6Fyf1KXM= Received: by 10.141.171.6 with SMTP id y6mr7282096rvo.174.1205698216465; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:10:16 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Omar Siddique" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shuffling GEOM mirror components X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:10:18 -0000 On 16/03/2008, Omar Siddique wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage. I was wondering > how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a > mirror. > > Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware. What's now ad6 > becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6. What's the recommended way to do this, > or does it "just work" when GEOM discovers the providers in their new > locations? > > > gmirror status > Name Status Components > mirror/odata COMPLETE ad6 > ad7 > > I checked manpages and handbook but didn't see any info there. > > (running on FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE) geom tastes every hard drive it can for that bacony goodness in the last few tracks and is, in that way, as automagical as you could want. Since all the mirrhour info is contained in these meta-data (including the massively overbitted $id_number of any additional providers) as long as they're there, it should attach just fine. Nice way of solving that old: "My scsi controllers probe in dif'rent order every boot and da6 bekommt da9 some- times, help?" -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:11:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 391CC1065680 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBCD8FC2B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3298909rvb.43 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:11:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=u7nbCBvutofan9ajxHOFKkLMAqopDLAZXj0N/bMn+3Q=; b=BmNcELnCz0AokSbxmvd6IXNqUJaffKnS0dE0hT0OhnBySo4YAUITfwN83rk2CLgJsPK2+WJay8xXjszB+/+Yd/WGyGKyr6bMazGRF/+C4ITentJeosxXkXKrBwqnr19dn267pbbDbbvlFhtIqgfGgvQTG6Nm6F7nYhpZIHi/L44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hY5TFZq1KoJjt6mYSFIpwvL6Gcxqmg4WoadXUUEuF3IP9xmvowvizFKZ0kU8jlqTg9S0/sTT68/M18Kt3/VBXqboxE/Pb9CikpNJ7CCQ8aRlnX4rvEskQQ08cQF3/5Grb8d+VVRzySX2zHIqs8LsQslkw+jCUxrjrIg8C5uNgTc= Received: by 10.140.191.14 with SMTP id o14mr7266005rvf.247.1205696584035; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:43:03 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Firas Kraiem" In-Reply-To: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:11:27 -0000 On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem wrote: > Greetings > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the system > just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it is under > heavy network load (downloading at several megabytes/second). > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, and > I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, so ideas > would be much appreciated. > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a similar problem had I: random crashes under network load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. Try replacing your NIC. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:20:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBA01065696 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9F8FC28 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g13so3300975rvb.43 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:20:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jB8e+K2G2BudFIfemW45k2jxdqZp0UWjotWV1sQfwEU=; b=jKhFjDSvZZT0ZZuCDt1t16tIAqBskuRhMbNcgM9wdagJJ0ZlJJseiuna2pDpMgobb9uMbaR43Wluz/g2CRkW2neTH06aALW0cu7RM9D4LG55Eq9rRi1avm6FDE4/O41k3DuBJxC54vGX3ZNUmN3E9VHkAmjSRq977gV29BBnG/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ih0V27wzgMMHV9VWSTsB/cwwt1tnyJ+T32lwmD72rGDXbNMs4yULffJXDjDyxx6dMDaEa0Yh8c7CpepG9LO4sKrW+sih5p+uQ7N9zNRq7MKBqVatayOviyR9xfdAAM38p3NnBcO0Yl+uRC6PhgYwi6yznv3ROV08uLonGRLqg0M= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr7315394rve.101.1205698820462; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:20:20 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:21 -0000 On 16/03/2008, Mel wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: > > > I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > > the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, disk > > space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a > proper use of resources. How many iterations of: "I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee install?" Then again, who ever listened to all 16 tracks of their (First Pressing!) Japanese "...baby one more time"? -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:20:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A640106569D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0619D8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 4637 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 20:20:33 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Mar 2008 20:20:33 -0000 Message-ID: <47DD7FBF.2070908@chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:14:55 -0400 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 OpenPGP: id=F3DCA0E9; url=http://pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Predrag Punosevac , FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org, Gligor Lucian Subject: Re: USB printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:20:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chuck Robey >> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:24 AM >> To: Predrag Punosevac >> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian >> Subject: Re: USB printer >> >> >> Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others >> sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to >> agree with >> hier(7). I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining >> if it hadn't, but then there should have been some small notes detailing >> how to install a local driver. > > The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your > using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI > configuration software that is written for that desktop that > makes CUPS configuration a snap. (and installing foomatic > drivers and the like) > > If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's > understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention > paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual > command line junkie. Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC processors, I use lpr all the time, and I use "ssh (hostname) lpr > Ted -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH3X+/z62J6PPcoOkRAmSLAJ4xWyxjWzAnuUBOpgwjoVXZ2tvaPwCgmNN6 g9W18DTbpkvwvPaVqj6mNRo= =PVXh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:22:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706DD106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D448FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pisymbol@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so3387039wra.13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:21:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MJl+lCvMznQ9ebKSryRe11cgWRQBPCwVjZsLBADHCgs=; b=sxfCZd9v/VYaY1V3LhJTjIvR0GblEt2uOqoXkhgUZPFYvTSErEE+hAkHIoy5gCA+Vo4Z5WbB1zFrd3cf4yRuBZvJh6rl4TIwnUN/SNxLna59RkPIc8yolNbAMknwhi4hO1kaJftJmJxSSEuULOIPSi8gL6veLg2nrdvI9X886Qs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qjoa6/BoueXtFt9LKnYp14uioiNOpgTXPuzSYyzKyrWpnoxJ4c4IGOkV/V0vn91MBaHOdm/WlQzaczhsC4gBalGN7zRjAqtTJDd8jAAQjkNU6q9YLirlgQgjkXiRGspf3S7OIwZ3Zw8eHuFGSCdCz/fTVFqZX0Ut/gv5iZtrs5Q= Received: by 10.151.101.20 with SMTP id d20mr7213713ybm.193.1205698918930; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.230.16 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3c0b01820803161321r59e93941t1bb3fe85f7726098@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:21:58 -0400 From: "Alexander Sack" To: "Isaac Mushinsky" In-Reply-To: <200803160107.01832.itz@mushinsky.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200803160107.01832.itz@mushinsky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA problems (Abit IP35-Pro) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:22:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > On Friday 14 March 2008 13:57:11 Isaac Mushinsky wrote: > > I am setting up a new system with Abit IP35-Pro (ich9r), 2 WD SATA > drives > > on the controller. There is also a SATA DVDRW to boot from. > > With the default SATA setup (SATA/IDE) the system cannot find any SATA > > drive. I was able to boot the install disk, attaching an old IDE CDROM, > but > > still could not make it see the hard drive. > > > > If I set SATA controller to AHCI, the system boots (although with some > ACPI > > errors), and I was able to install. However, fdisk thinks that the > geometry > > is "incorrect", and insists on a different one (it says the drives have > > 476gb rather than 500gb). > > > > I can install with this AHCI setup, but have no idea what the > implications > > are. Is there a known fix for SATA/IDE? Or is AHCI better? > > > Very well, but now I boot with ACPI errors like these: > > ACPI Error (psparse-0626) Method parse/execution failed [\\_TZ_.THRM._TMP] > (Node 0xffffff000224ac60), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE > ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE Missing or null > operand > [20070320] > ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE While creating Arg 0 > [20070320] > > If I attempt to boot without ACPI, the machine hangs while trying to mount > root filesystem. Why does disabling ACPI cause disk access problems? What > can > I do to fix this? Can I disable only thermal part of ACPI? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Could be a number reasons including interrupt routing to power management. Given that the AML error message refers to I believe a power mgmt table. Can you try disabling power management in the BIOS, enable AHCI, and give it a go? If that doesn't work, try turning SMP off. -aps -- "What lies behind us and what lies in front of us is of little concern to what lies within us." -Ralph Waldo Emerson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:33:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD11106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CD28FC1A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GKWi3B083587; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:32:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id m2GKW3Cs083584; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:32:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:32:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Omar Siddique In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080316213130.C83579@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Shuffling GEOM mirror components X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:33:08 -0000 > > I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage. I was wondering > how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a > mirror. very reasy. > > Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware. What's now ad6 > becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6. What's the recommended way to do this, or > does it "just work" when GEOM discovers the providers in their new locations? it will just work unless you used -h option when labeling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:40:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E20106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F618FC20 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m2GKelTi006590; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:40:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:40:42 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080316214042.000015ff@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080316193206.005033ec@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> <20080316193206.005033ec@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Cc: Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:40:10 -0000 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL > http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796 Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here. > Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above? I have no access to spamhaus. Spam is a bad thing but people are overreacting by blocking dynamic ip's. Lots of us are 'good' people y'know. All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:42:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456EF1065674 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:42:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E129D8FC16 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4219D1CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:41:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:41:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <11167f520803161307o280aba4fla0f33b69e58e4417@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11167f520803161307o280aba4fla0f33b69e58e4417@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162141.57411.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." Subject: Re: Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:42:01 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:07:53 Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default? > or do Ihave to compile that support in the kernel pf, yes. Altq, not on 6.x, don't know if that's changed and can't check my 7.x system atm. See man altq when in doubt. > Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File > Server / Wireless AP > http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wirele >ss.html > > if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know Hmm, it's quite outdated, but most things will work. I don't see the reason for using pfsync on a small home network with only 1 gateway to the net, so you can leave that out. You don't need bind9 port, cause FreeBSD has bind 9 in base for quite a while. Wlan layers will be loaded automically, when a driver is loaded that needs them, so no need for them to be loaded in loader.conf. The table in the pf config has no name, not very good practice and not sure if that'll work. The pf config also doesn't define any queues, so compiling in altq isn't necessary with the config given there. Before you do anything, make sure the driver for your wireless card supports: - hostap - apbridge You can check this with ifconfig -v on the interface name, i.e.: ath0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255 inet 192.168.100.51 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 192.168.100.51 ether 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g ^^^^^^ status: associated ssid MYSSID channel 1 (2412) bssid 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:104-bit powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 txpowmax 34 txpower 63 rtsthreshold 2346 mcastrate 1 fragthreshold 2346 bmiss 7 -pureg protmode CTS -wme burst ssid SHOW apbridge dtimperiod 1 ^^^^^^^^ bintval 100 -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:48:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DCE106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from nagual.nl (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [82.74.10.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B31E8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from westmark (westmark.nagual.nl [192.168.11.22]) by nagual.nl (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/yanta) with ESMTP id m2GKnOYO006615; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:49:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:49:19 +0100 From: Dick Hoogendijk To: Ion-Mihai Tetcu , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080316214919.00001ead@westmark> In-Reply-To: <20080316193206.005033ec@it.buh.tecnik93.com> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> <20080316193206.005033ec@it.buh.tecnik93.com> Organization: de nagual X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-pc-solaris2.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 192.168.11.35 Cc: Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:48:44 -0000 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: > Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above ? DONE. OK, Removal Pending The IP address has been added to the PBL Removals database. Please allow 30 minutes for servers around the world to update their data (it is possible for some servers to take a little longer, we do not control the update times of all DNSBL servers). Under normal circumstances, in approximately 30 minutes you should be able to send email directly to networks that use Spamhaus' Policy Block List anti-spam system. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D ++ http://nagual.nl/ + SunOS sxde 01/08 ++ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 20:53:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40064106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F420E8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89D61CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:53:29 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162153.28068.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "illoai@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:53:31 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:20:20 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 16/03/2008, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: > > > I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > > > the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, disk > > > space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of > > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a > > proper use of resources. > > How many iterations of: > "I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the > bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee > install?" It's not iteratitive, but recursive, since the next time they only download 1, (pardon the amnesiacs). :) (I know, I'm an optimist) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 21:07:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAFA1065717 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370D8FC19 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 17:07:17 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id OMX91582; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 16 Mar 2008 16:06:19 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18397.35890.805252.858028@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:08:02 -0400 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." In-Reply-To: <11167f520803161133t24004fbatc530b81f8d96a21f@mail.gmail.com> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316133703.6597b682@scorpio> <11167f520803161133t24004fbatc530b81f8d96a21f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:07:19 -0000 Sam Fourman Jr. writes: > I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to > make us a native FreeBSD version. The last time I looked into this: Adobe does not (seem to) have a problem with FreeBSD; indeed, I got the impression they barely know we exist. What they seem resistant to is publishing a complete and accurate specification that would allow third parties to write interface code. This is said to be changing with Flash 10. /If/ I remember correctly, the guts will still be proprietary but it will connect to a wrapper whose interface will publicly available. (Search keyword = "ActionScript" ???) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 21:19:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EEE106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D1A8FC15 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBBD2C50CC0; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:03:02 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:02:56 +0200 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Dick Hoogendijk Message-ID: <20080316230256.517c79fd@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: <20080316214042.000015ff@westmark> References: <77647f500803151709y2dbe8f65jb02fb8d73b2f407d@mail.gmail.com> <200803161455.20738.ltcddata@davids-website.com> <20080316161534.GB25231@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20080316181722.000021e7@westmark> <20080316193206.005033ec@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <20080316214042.000015ff@westmark> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/mvu=ff9HCvsTCcA+bBuVGJK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:19:17 -0000 --Sig_/mvu=ff9HCvsTCcA+bBuVGJK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:40:42 +0100 Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200 > Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: >=20 > > Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL > > http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796 >=20 > Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between > legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my > isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here. It's not the case here. They are only saying that your ISP says it is against its TOS to send emails from your IP or (and I agree this part is problematic) they decided it is a dynamic range, etc. > > Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above? >=20 > I have no access to spamhaus. You can remove that particular IP from that page (which you just did from reading your other email). > Spam is a bad thing but people are overreacting by blocking dynamic > ip's. I agree, theoretically. In practice it's the first non-spam IP I receive in the 2 weeks since I started using zen.spamhous.org (which includes pbl.) in my dspam config. > Lots of us are 'good' people y'know. Yes, I know. > All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period. I don't doubt it :) --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/mvu=ff9HCvsTCcA+bBuVGJK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdiwYACgkQBX6fi0k6KXs9GwCfWnLoEABdlifjzoc0nouCRw6W Go8AoLPcC+wEVxoCy3XVUAmMUzEksG2C =Bfvn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/mvu=ff9HCvsTCcA+bBuVGJK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 21:27:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1667106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6A78FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so5512390wxd.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:27:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=fUI1JFqapK2w2XupUeSYs7q7PRMtyIFmHQUwCcLLXQo=; b=hCSgBPGDM03WeRoFNpEBuFpc2bngyQhpVc42oXuKjHfhfMzm9ACnWRie2/QN3672ARit3sXAvayMyouqQnmSbxdk9Jwej3pstirLD85dDKwE78Nl60WD8EUZhw9IdLmNP5KkPQPxjt6z6vw11Lg4tQjseeIeU2ja5Gs82XCH4x4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=cDzAxykOVz1KEx9EU0JS58/2r9Qqzrod9hFvOhNh5sYLoGoYr/ukcHUeYlU+okOwpCg3nLPmckQ6zmYQKCW0m/q6+TD564gqWFWZDooOpaBdwNz02aiFOZjPyqHEDZfZoXH6lbVPNBiBBP2wI/FU1X7057rpkX6CU1zFYN58amQ= Received: by 10.65.40.16 with SMTP id s16mr29754567qbj.77.1205702846538; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [98.212.164.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e15sm18353815qba.9.2008.03.16.14.27.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:27:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Message-Id: <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Joshua Isom Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:29:29 -0500 To: Mel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:27:31 -0000 On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: > On Sunday =D9=A1=D9=A6 March =D9=A2=D9=A0=D9=A0=D9=A8 =D9=A2=D9=A1:=D9=A0= =D9=A3:=D9=A2=D9=A7 Incoming Mail List wrote: > >> I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, >> the "Where is packages-=D9=A6.=D9=A2-release" for more context. You = know, disk >> space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that = =D9=A8=D9=A0%=20 > of > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's=20= > a > proper use of resources. > Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a=20 version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso=20 that contains just enough to install? Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install=20 FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the=20= source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to=20 follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree,=20 and good to go. Anyway, odds are the OP wants to try out PCBSD instead of FreeBSD. I=20 don't see much purpose in home use live cd's if you don't want a=20 desktop environment. > --=20 > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 21:53:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C127106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D782D8FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4AA1CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:53:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:53:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162253.29286.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Joshua Isom Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:53:32 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 22:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote: > On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday =D9=A1=D9=A6 March =D9=A2=D9=A0=D9=A0=D9=A8 =D9=A2=D9=A1:=D9= =A0=D9=A3:=D9=A2=D9=A7 Incoming Mail List wrote: > >> I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > >> the "Where is packages-=D9=A6.=D9=A2-release" for more context. You k= now, disk > >> space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that =D9= =A8=D9=A0% > > of > > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's > > a > > proper use of resources. > > Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a > version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso > that contains just enough to install? Unless there's DVD drives out there that can't mount cd's (which would=20 surprise me since DVD's use iso9660 file system), there's no reason to make= a=20 700MB dvd image. > Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install > FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the > source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to > follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, > and good to go. Cause a gzipped ports tree requires less resources then a csup'd one, for o= ne=20 and because you may want to get the gateway you're building on site to have= =20 some decent firewall rules before going up the big scary net. Install disks have their use and binary installs are faster all around, but= =20 there's limits to convenience and having all binary packages on disk, most = of=20 which are obsolete within weeks, majority of which you'll never use (17k+=20 ports atm) certainly is one of them. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 22:03:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C78106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com [217.146.188.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91DA58FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com) Received: (qmail 66365 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2008 21:36:52 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=R7dhmMT7Bja9tPLfyWiD2D18qRwMItgVnJlfFX38VfEgQnIyqGKSxaFvbAb6StQKuLJQvfZHuT9GssZKFT/nWm39PZedAirv+9oNp54y71XZukhkRZ86gD3OWN5sIJBi+Y2+3QOgHJ1qf1OSbDkdxeqNbEyKbQnQBKkBemhF9SM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w2fzz0vc03.aah-go-on.com) (thomas.sparrevohn@btinternet.com@86.150.96.45 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2008 21:36:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: zKpVU94VM1mUrTm670WIP6wY5OZjMQnjdIc8P9pmA1Hh8fYAh7AbKD9hOZP2_f8ARnO53PziVA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Thomas Sparrevohn To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:36:51 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14d5bc5907865a291f91883030ae1409@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803162136.51522.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> Cc: Joshua Isom , Mel Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:03:34 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote: >=20 > On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote: >=20 > > On Sunday =D9=A1=D9=A6 March =D9=A2=D9=A0=D9=A0=D9=A8 =D9=A2=D9=A1:=D9= =A0=D9=A3:=D9=A2=D9=A7 Incoming Mail List wrote: > > > >> I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? See, > >> the "Where is packages-=D9=A6.=D9=A2-release" for more context. You k= now, disk > >> space isn't infinite...uh-huh. > > > > Easy to bitch, ain't it? > > Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. > > > > I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that =D9= =A8=D9=A0%=20 > > of > > what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the > > bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's= =20 > > a > > proper use of resources. > > >=20 > Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a=20 > version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso=20 > that contains just enough to install? >=20 > Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install=20 > FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the=20 > source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to=20 > follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree,=20 > and good to go. >=20 Sorry - FreeBSD is - you have been able to install FreeBSD from the=20 mini dist (I and floppies used to work) for a long long time. Personally I would like to have the option of a DVD - but that is mainly because I would like it as a backup of /usr/local=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 22:05:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F62F106564A for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD6F8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAFAAM13Ud5LVPJ/2dsb2JhbACBWqRI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,510,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="77087081" Received: from ppp121-45-83-201.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.83.201]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2008 08:35:51 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Erik Trulsson , Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:36:31 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316143708.GA35250@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20080316143708.GA35250@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803170836.31414.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:05:53 -0000 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07 am, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:07AM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > > > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > > > > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > > > > an ISP mail service. > > > > > > Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail > > > server? > > > > Sounds good, but how? > > I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but > go to /etc/mail/ and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc > file. > Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which > files are used. > > Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful > information. > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :) > > Then run: > > # cd /etc/mail > # make && make install > # make restart > Thanks guys, I'd heard of SMART_HOST but did not realise this would overcome my identity problem. Your attention is much appreciated. Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 22:06:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99481065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.214.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F7B8FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuAFAAM13Ud5LVPJ/2dsb2JhbACBWqRI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,510,1199626200"; d="scan'208";a="77087610" Received: from ppp121-45-83-201.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.83.201]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2008 08:36:39 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: Giorgos Keramidas Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:37:17 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316192918.GA2765@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20080316192918.GA2765@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803170837.17339.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:06:41 -0000 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2008-03-17 00:26, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > > > The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent > > > > directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through > > > > an ISP mail service. > > > > > > Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail > > > server? > > > > Sounds good, but how? > > Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :) > > Then run: > > # cd /etc/mail > # make && make install > # make restart > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 22:34:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E231106566B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F678FC1B for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GMYV2T001701; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:31 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (mx-in-02.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.185]) by mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GMYUKC030767; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:30 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl127-166.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.246.166]) by MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GMYSRN026869; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:30 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-02.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2GMYRjP001790; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2GMYRB2001789; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:34:27 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20080316223427.GA1696@kobe.laptop> References: <200803161817.47739.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <200803170026.07732.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> <20080316143708.GA35250@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <200803170836.31414.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803170836.31414.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network identity for sending mail. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:34:34 -0000 On 2008-03-17 08:36, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07 am, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but > > go to /etc/mail/ and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc > > file. > > Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which > > files are used. > > > > Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful > > information. > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :) > > > > Then run: > > > > # cd /etc/mail > > # make && make install > > # make restart > > > > Thanks guys, > I'd heard of SMART_HOST but did not realise this would overcome > my identity problem. > > Your attention is much appreciated. Hi Malcolm. You are welcome, of course :) If you stick around with Sendmail, it may be interesting to search through the archives. There are a few posts which may be interesting for other setup details of your outgoing email, like email address rewriting (commonly called `masquerading' in Sendmail documentation). A few pointers to get you started are: http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/msg/a6aafc66482070c1 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/83fdd8740321db86 http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/msg/7cf951f12567f2fe http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/562dc23fca32c37c http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/msg/8dff805cd2bc76be Then in the post at http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/msg/c9fc1a5a75d9120a you can find a bit of help about `mailertable', the Sendmail feature I use to forward all my email to my default SMART_HOST and redirect company-internal email to the internal mail server of my workplace. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 22:47:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1C81065670 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B7F8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:47:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2GMlqVL005691; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:47:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E42B0B832; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:47:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:47:51 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "Sam Fourman Jr." Message-ID: <20080316224751.GA36745@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: "Sam Fourman Jr." , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <11167f520803161307o280aba4fla0f33b69e58e4417@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <11167f520803161307o280aba4fla0f33b69e58e4417@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:47:54 -0000 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 04:07:53PM -0400, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Hello, >=20 > my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default? > or do I have to compile that support in the kernel You'll have to compile a kernel for ALTQ support. But pf is available as a module for the GENERIC kernel. =20 > Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File > Server / Wireless AP > http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wire= less.html >=20 > if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know It looks pretty current to me. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEUEARECAAYFAkfdo5cACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW7VACfZMuqvSCFbgtiltkenhbW9qGv 8TkAl0JyUFyhWNAPnq7NyoQn1MhuykM= =sEIu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 23:04:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FF11065673 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from mail.sucked-in.com (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2445E8FC1D for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@sucked-in.com) Received: from localhost (got.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594EB1CD1D for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:04:11 +1100 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sucked-in.com Received: from mail.sucked-in.com ([64.251.22.156]) by localhost (mail.sucked-in.com [64.251.22.156]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Luhsm+t8KW5u for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:04:11 +1100 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (220-253-152-183.VIC.netspace.net.au [220.253.152.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sucked-in.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 899881CC7E for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:04:10 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <47DDA75A.1000903@sucked-in.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:03:54 +1100 From: Terry Sposato User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <005001c887b5$23231070$69693150$@com.au> In-Reply-To: <005001c887b5$23231070$69693150$@com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FW: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:04:13 -0000 >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that >>> a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking >>> if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? >>> >>> If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be >>> using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think >>> uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other >>> normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have >>> a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX >>> server. >>> >> That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX. >> There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway. >> > > I figured that was what he was asking, but we should probably > hear from him to make sure that this is really what he was asking. > > Unfortunately, > the original post was either from someone who didn't use English > as their native language, or they are paying for their Internet > connection by-the-byte and were trying to make the question as > short as possible, as a result, the entire meaning of the post > was lost. > > Ted > OK, maybe I was not clear enough so I will try again. I want to run FreeBSD as a VM Guest on a VMWare ESX Server. Currently there is no problem with it and it works fine. The problems arise when you want to take advantage of the HA ability of ESX Server, as it only supports Virtual Machines with the VM Tools running. So what I am asking is if someone has ever though about porting the VMWare Tools to run in a FreeBSD Virtual Machine image. Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 23:18:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC021065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert.a.chalmers@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AEF8FC19 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robert.a.chalmers@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so5557614wxd.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:18:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:reply-to:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole:from; bh=mcZ5QoZRtnDQrv7bo1yslOiMi5y+SjMwtlv7oQ92bYQ=; b=CxurkcpcS2QDlfLXltHb6ugYi49vvWgU3lmO0GpDP9yo9sbTikHvpIIlilXtQSBjRZu6M6HK9QHw9mXZM5KoV9OhCDmxIot5FLdkZaRc2ihYkNJDMvyx4e/OHwFIT5HfjpHiwEbUqELU0IBSplWS1ot4z8V1csszBqhQd1XEYxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:reply-to:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole:from; b=oqlJrGNEwLljDmxUiJKkOo9h+qi/SizrhNvqVVgt0GNH8qbHYUshSbuDmWVuetJuQF0C1Hv2UH4246OWtvJwoYArUrEOdCMTU9ZSdYizAH7dycR9oA5XFI+twjnC2R/z/nfKfpaTkLvVMOw1f9hs7JTHYP8ZlUhTYdbLsSmB88I= Received: by 10.115.95.1 with SMTP id x1mr17419343wal.7.1205709526836; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Avalon ( [119.77.64.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l37sm33573160waf.25.2008.03.16.16.18.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> To: "FreeBSD" Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:18:27 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 From: Robert Chalmers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: That age old question again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Chalmers List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:18:49 -0000 Not quite but close. On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for LATEST RELEASES a.. Production Release 7.0 Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version. Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up. Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no? Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree. The question I have is: For the Production Release shown above - 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ?? ................................................. -CURRENT is the development tree that will eventually become the next major version of FreeBSD. The developers try to keep this tree buildable, but they can't guarantee that it will be usable. Tread lightly all those that dare run this version. You must know what you are doing, understand how to debug and rebuild, and be prepared for lost data. As I write, this is known as 7-CURRENT, which will one day become FreeBSD 7.0. The cvsup tag for CURRENT is . (the period). ................................................. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 23:33:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68B31065672 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike4ty4@yahoo.com) Received: from web33602.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33602.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B58F8FC1C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike4ty4@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 43466 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2008 23:33:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bTb0M83atak4sP2S8Qz4HBBUqmww1Y+YNduxVuys95LL/OjMSqIaxik1ZEFdAi4gsVmOmYpF506mn5uug2OigKBK/NMicpvlUJ1bhO3oKRl0XD6R23uMdD89sQXKUGOc8euWrHKZ9cetpAL9QC8jEiOdpQecsCOuOOA8wCYg7TY=; X-YMail-OSG: 0BsfapwVM1nTdxOqevawVAasxQSeuIu54thq9hZgoYWOHEQ_a1nlUGNecwu0qMr5lPh88NX.2B_1DUeqRfYN8tXkk5rkfKqc23wkJw_TNOgQCijdccbOsyKtPleF6A-- Received: from [170.215.65.87] by web33602.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:23 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Moldenhauer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <774712.42246.qm@web33602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: More information about the problem I'm having (was "Installation locks up") X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:33:24 -0000 Thought this bit of extra information might be helpful. I've noticed that on some attempts it gets past the point where it is copying the base system and then proceeds with the stage where it's copying "GENERIC" to /boot, gets to 12% and then freezes up. What is wrong with this? Something wrong with the computer? A bug in the software? How can I find out what is causing the trouble I am having? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. mike3 wrote: > Hi. > > I was attempting to install FreeBSD 7.0 on a Sun > computer (Sun Blade 100 with 500MHz UltraSPARC IIe > CPU). It seems to be having trouble though. When it > gets done (100%) copying the base system to / (the > first part of the install), it freezes up cold (I > can't even ALT-F4 to teh emergency console session.) > What's wrong? I can't seem to figure it out. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 23:41:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CC0106566C for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C678FC20 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snoogles.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCEB1CD18; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:41:21 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Robert Chalmers Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:41:20 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> In-Reply-To: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803170041.20549.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: That age old question again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:41:23 -0000 On Monday 17 March 2008 00:18:27 Robert Chalmers wrote: > Not quite but close. > On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for > LATEST RELEASES > a.. Production Release 7.0 > Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version. > > Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE > slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up. > > Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major > version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the > website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no? > > Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah > tree. > > The question I have is: For the Production Release shown above - > 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ?? Releases are like photos: a momentum in time. Current and stable are moving targets, where current moves faster then stable. As a general rule, if something comitted in -current holds up for x weeks (I believe 3, but it ain't written in stone) and it has importance for -stable, it will be committed to stable and end up in a the next /minor/ release for that branch. Development in -current ends up in the next /major/ release. As it stands, 7 is the stable branch, 8 is the current branch and 6 is legacy stable, 5 is pray-it-still-works ancient 'stable' and 4 is passed end-of life. So far so good. Except, there's also the ability to "keep a release up to date with only security fixes". That's what you want to use in production and the cvs tag contains two version numbers: RELENG_7_0. Yes, I realize many use -stable branches in production, but there is the chance that your system is broken on reboot. Reading through the dated entries in /usr/src/UPDATING gives you an idea what users of -stable can deal with and make your descision accordingly. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 16 23:42:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149CD1065671 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:42:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46D18FC12 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (c-71-60-127-199.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.60.127.199]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF77EEBC3B; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:42:04 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Robert Chalmers Message-Id: <20080316194204.2b7be0c9.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> References: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: That age old question again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:42:06 -0000 Robert Chalmers wrote: > > Not quite but close. > On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for > LATEST RELEASES > a.. Production Release 7.0 > Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version. > > Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE > slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up. What's so confusing? CURRENT = pure development branch for major new features ... i.e. will become 8.0 eventually. STABLE = development to the next minor release ... 7-STABLE will become 7.1 eventually, and 6-STABLE will eventually become 6.4 > Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major > version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the > website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no? CURRENT will become 8.0 when it hits release. Probably in a few years. > Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree. > > The question I have is: For the Production Release shown above - > 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ?? You want RELENG_7_0 for bugfixes/security fixes for production systems. You only want STABLE or CURRENT if you're testing the next version, assisting with development, or need a feature before it's officially released. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 00:35:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487371065676 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from itsuki.fkraiem.org (itsuki.fkraiem.org [213.251.134.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A0B8FC18 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from nobue (LPuteaux-151-42-40-134.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.191.134]) (authenticated bits=0) by itsuki.fkraiem.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2H096Ps003087 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:09:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) From: Firas Kraiem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:08:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803170108.44645.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> Subject: Re: 7.0 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:35:28 -0000 On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem wrote: > > Greetings > > > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the > > system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it > > is under heavy network load (downloading at several > > megabytes/second). > > > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, > > and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, > > so ideas would be much appreciated. > > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a > similar problem had I: random crashes under network > load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. > > Try replacing your NIC. Thanks for your answer. The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. Firas -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments GnuPG public key: http://itsuki.fkraiem.org/gpgkey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 00:48:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A10C1065676 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CA68FC1E for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDC0654FE for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:48:24 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47DDA75A.1000903@sucked-in.com> References: <005001c887b5$23231070$69693150$@com.au> <47DDA75A.1000903@sucked-in.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: FW: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:48:25 -0000 --On March 17, 2008 10:03:54 AM +1100 Terry Sposato wrote: > > OK, maybe I was not clear enough so I will try again. > I want to run FreeBSD as a VM Guest on a VMWare ESX Server. Currently > there is no problem with it and it works fine. The problems arise when > you want to take advantage of the HA ability of ESX Server, as it only > supports Virtual Machines with the VM Tools running. > > So what I am asking is if someone has ever though about porting the > VMWare Tools to run in a FreeBSD Virtual Machine image. > I downloaded the open-vm-tools from Sourceforge and tried to compile and make them. The compile went fine, but the make failed. I'm not a programmer, so I struggle trying to resolve such problems. I'd be happy to make a port for it, but I would need help from someone with more programming knowledge than I. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 00:53:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DC0106564A for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA54B8FC18 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2H0rRxW088822; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:53:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 405EDB832; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:53:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:53:27 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Firas Kraiem Message-ID: <20080317005327.GA40102@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Firas Kraiem , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> <200803170108.44645.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803170108.44645.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:53:30 -0000 --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:08:44AM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote: > Thanks for your answer. >=20 > The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a= =20 > few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that= =20 > was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this=20 > particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking=20 > in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server= =20 > over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to=20 > replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. Read the BUGS section of rl(4) and weep. It seems to be a case of poorly documented or defined behavior on the part of the chip. Having said that, I've used rl(4) based network cards in workstations without problems. But then my outbound line is 2 mbit ADSL, which won't even come close to seriously loading the hardware. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfdwQcACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVbmgCbBn/87/UfFZaJKsVwGwN0A0dG uIMAn1HcS02Cqi0uvMfnGPDazJbjmg4p =JawR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 01:07:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCF4106566C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com (dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38538FC14 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9] by dos.kaslist.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jb3pH-000EgF-6W; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:07:43 -0700 X-Gpg-Fingerprint: A906 101E 2CCD BB18 D7BD 09AE E7EA 02EC 3B48 7EE9 From: Fred C To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <20080316181725.GA4474@orion.hexidigital.org> X-Gpg-Url: http://fred.velvnet.com/gnupg/3B487EE9.asc References: <47DD5A7E.7000801@gmail.com> <20080316181725.GA4474@orion.hexidigital.org> Message-Id: <496A7D3E-B355-4F7A-B1ED-7994000708E1@bsdhost.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:07:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07:44 -0000 Same for me I have never uploaded the CD2 and 3. Ok, maybe once long time ago when I was young and the FreeBSD version was 4.xx. I install the os from the CD1 and then I install everything I need from ports. -fred- On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Glen Barber wrote: > Miguel Mayol i Tur said: >> I do like to try free OSs and distributions >> Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP? >> I cannot understand why not on these days. > > I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD > installer. If everyone is so intent on using the "latest and > greatest", > why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than > using ports? > > Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to > download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB > DVD. > > Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall. > > -- > Glen Barber > (570)328-0318 > http://www.dev-urandom.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 01:13:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E6210656C5 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com (dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA6E8FC13 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:13:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fred@bsdhost.net) Received: from dos.kaslist.com [66.160.134.9] by dos.kaslist.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Jb3v5-000EkZ-Fz; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:13:43 -0700 X-Gpg-Fingerprint: A906 101E 2CCD BB18 D7BD 09AE E7EA 02EC 3B48 7EE9 From: Fred C To: illoai@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Gpg-Url: http://fred.velvnet.com/gnupg/3B487EE9.asc References: <200803162003.m2GK3RW2059873@whoweb.com> <200803162102.56212.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Message-Id: <415872FE-D225-46BB-955B-734BD97CCADE@bsdhost.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:13:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why not a DVD iso version too? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:13:45 -0000 On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:20 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 16/03/2008, Mel wrote: >> On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote: >> >>> I think I can answer this one. Perhaps, not enough disk space? >>> See, >>> the "Where is packages-6.2-release" for more context. You know, >>> disk >>> space isn't infinite...uh-huh. >> >> Easy to bitch, ain't it? >> Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth. >> >> I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that >> 80% of >> what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up >> the >> bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe >> that's a >> proper use of resources. > > How many iterations of: > "I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the > bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee > install?" Ok you do that maybe once or twice but you quickly understand that you don't really need the CD2 and CD3. Also some people like to collect. They have shelves with all the releases from from Unix V3, but I am sure this is not the majority. Save the bandwith! -fred- -- Fred C! PGP-KeyID: E7EA02EC3B487EE9 PGP-FingerPrint: A906101E2CCDBB18D7BD09AEE7EA02EC3B487EE9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 01:21:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBA81065670 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (mx-out.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50D38FC12 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (mx-av.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.27]) by mx-out-05.forthnet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2H1LcAo030450; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:38 +0200 Received: from MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (mx-in-05.forthnet.gr [193.92.150.32]) by mx-av-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2H1LccG031705; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:38 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl127-166.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.246.166]) by MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2H1LZ9h015210; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:37 +0200 Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr smtp.mail=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: MX-IN-05.forthnet.gr header.from=keramida@ceid.upatras.gr; sender-id=neutral Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2H1LZRO020497; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2H1LVAb020496; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:21:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Chalmers Message-ID: <20080317012131.GB19516@kobe.laptop> References: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8564570DC4FA43CA8BD09F427DB734C9@Avalon> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: CURRENT vs. STABLE vs. RELEASE, tags and branches [was: Re: That age old question again] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:21:47 -0000 On 2008-03-17 09:18, Robert Chalmers wrote: > Not quite but close. > On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for > LATEST RELEASES > a.. Production Release 7.0 > Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version. > > Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE > slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up. > > Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major > version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the > website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no? > > Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree. > > The question I have is: For the Production Release shown above - > 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ?? Hi Robert, After the 7.0-RELEASE was announced the following CVS tags became available for general use: RELENG_7_0_0_RELEASE This is a 'snapshot' of the source tree at the time of the release. No bug fixes are possible in a 'snapshot' tag. It is just a reference point, which can be used to reconstruct a copy of the source tree used to build 7.0-RELEASE. RELENG_7_0 This is a 'branch' that includes all the source files of the release snapshot and *security* fixes only. Being a 'branch' this is not a static snapshot. It may 'move' in time, pointing to newer updates for some files. Since it is a security-only branch, however, updates are expected to be minimal and are announced in freebsd-security as they become available. RELENG_7 This is a branch too. It includes all development of the 7-STABLE series. Created at the same point as the release tag called RELENG_7_0_0_RELEASE, this is the basis for all the subsequent releases 'cut from the 7.X series'. The changes which are allowed to go into this branch are a lot more than `RELENG_7_0', its associated security branch. New userland features, documentation updates, even new utilities or entirely new kernel features are all allowed, as long as compatibility with previous 7.X releases is not compromised. If you haven't read them already, the following two links are probably going to be useful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/ http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#supported-branches From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 02:56:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225FB1065672 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B7D8FC1C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so5008811wfa.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hhzglEpksfnYROMjYTl8FT+svGkXzXNdjrOjoJsivvs=; b=u+EOhNBQ79K9Eo4AkjEH8ILFkWLKqeQ8sgqhrldjqClepPaui556jozcHvxLR53cko8z9pyEfX0D5XwFO0crf7JdPJSQfPLC5DWCoCPPV/CFg1LjT1KyAIwu7HNzMJAutKcNJMInoQMkdRSLQIN24Pg/viVvNiCesvZucY0XUr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=vsxLlrzwJZrdrpmn0mfjQtDnQt4ZBgeMNzRBuUkV9UYetmOVWR5LGgxYn1HNDbBRhdihe6gXHSQ91AjReanByyfj5EnK7oXK4XrmBBvNef8MGS1VThlW4hnzb7yZvKNWnU8Pq6a8UWj2y1JGXcLF7PAXKUtfX4g264q+Ayi9yak= Received: by 10.140.127.13 with SMTP id z13mr7317306rvc.142.1205722616592; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.170.5 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:56:56 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Firas Kraiem" In-Reply-To: <200803170108.44645.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803161947.29608.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> <200803170108.44645.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0 crashes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:56:57 -0000 On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem wrote: > On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > > > I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using > > > freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the > > > system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it > > > is under heavy network load (downloading at several > > > megabytes/second). > > > > > > Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, > > > and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, > > > so ideas would be much appreciated. > > > > Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a > > similar problem had I: random crashes under network > > load with no core files, no dumps, no errors. > > > > Try replacing your NIC. > > > Thanks for your answer. > > The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a > few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that > was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this > particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking > in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server > over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to > replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome. I couldn't possibly say in your case, but in mine it was a 3com xl nic that had simply gone crackers. Any time I get weird, dumpless reboots I suspect hard- ware. Or Thor. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 03:11:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86916106566B for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA3B8FC29 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id OAA29953; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:11:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:11:13 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20080316195620.D24E4106569A@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:11:37 -0000 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:20:12 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> > >> what's wrong in userland natd? > > > > Performance. With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd > > must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back > > again (causing another context switch). This will be slower and use more > > CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches. > > true, anyway for my two 2Mbps symmetric connection (all for nat), and > three 4/0.5Mbit connections (part for nat, mostly for squid) all natd > processes takes at most 3 percent of single core (core2duo). Sure. And with my little 512/128k ADSL link, soon 1500/256, I doubt you could even measure the difference. I haven't seen any comparative data on high-performance boxes but as Erik points out, it may be significant. Just to make it clear, my point was that one reason for deprecating ipfw is out the door, and that its development is ongoing. I see rc.firewall has had a recent facelift too, including a stateful 'workstation' type. (Sorry that our ancient mail setup blocked your mail; hopefully fixed.) cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 03:15:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8C9106566C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rslaranjo@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9D88FC17 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rslaranjo@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so6013220waf.3 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:15:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=qXus99+Tmj3IVYrFYoQr4hQi0bGw/H1pAJksaUUanMk=; b=soHEEPoNsxXvgHzEYkyo55D9xWquzVi38ERbqsbjvWOv3BN4La2w/qGUoN0fZDbgxJhN0TZWm/+qLhXDskKtCycb8mivYY7cN1+J8V+PgwsKGK2FIaJ6ge66II+qujlYYirq0m5nHRqButUNf4j54ny+2qe9/hWxAkl4eRmSMOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uFss7S7m0s0/Dc/omIJZQSN4kdZwOcEE4cGUUG3tK4CO/QbbPtc+TvsH63gF7oCdcGOG7pYEGM5mb/PdK/3hije9kEJO/ZMpVZN4KFocbuztKzcSQw/LwoBCVAP0IZf8o1kBwWIMGYL8hP3++s4xK6oFjnOOwEwWsUqdPQXYQd0= Received: by 10.114.121.1 with SMTP id t1mr16717177wac.55.1205722050437; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.111.14 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:47:30 +0800 From: "Rommel Laranjo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Does FreeBSD support rfc4443-ICMPv6? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:15:18 -0000 Hello, Can anyone shed light if FreeBSD already support ICMPv6 based on RFC 4443? Thanks, Rommel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 03:36:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535EA1065671 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED0D8FC25 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:36:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so5663762wxd.7 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:36:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=9AQkB0VfUH3AS6xaYML8rUn5xtLd5Ksl6ZT3EbuH5eg=; b=XRdizNQcSNRW3GjfWpid9tUbWZLn0CI/4FLvo/s/bGkma4hmvXinCAI8QIFdxrnvf8kefY2UPK+oJyGG85EwYOodAQwlpQY970/2Wc773w1Gwit1FeJQ/2qJ0/Gf41v0Tfw6m85RCrQD+GZOJokspmZlsnxi9RmyBfopH162LDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=UvC8tspMNiZ32Tg0tCDDTgTlAoz4qb74JtFNcPiC0v8MlNtINPu1yRd3r6JoNgfgpfjwzsleRsaAbmxNj5uLF01Jg5bwiL9liycAlxoB8mIcO3AoDXFihglXxrNZlLkbY8S3vwPbVMAdZBgY3LyR9ZAZpo4/L2oUAwl71KceCE8= Received: by 10.70.115.17 with SMTP id n17mr16208836wxc.17.1205724978850; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <64c038660803162036x661ae5fbgdf2d00f0dcc7d163@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:36:18 -0600 From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ARP(4) spoofing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:36:20 -0000 Would this be ARP(4) spoofing, or is it just me? How would I confirm it? arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on em1 last message repeated 18 times last message repeated 19 times last message repeated 9 times last message repeated 10 times last message repeated 19 times last message repeated 24 times last message repeated 24 times last message repeated 24 times last message repeated 34 times last message repeated 23 times last message repeated 23 times last message repeated 26 times last message repeated 26 times last message repeated 26 times last message repeated 25 times last message repeated 25 times last message repeated 27 times last message repeated 30 times last message repeated 27 times last message repeated 27 times last message repeated 30 times last message repeated 10 times ... This is on a FreeBSD router, em1 is Internet-facing. 192.168.1.1 (em0) is LAN facing and permanent entry in the arp cache. This happens constantly and is slowly filling my log files. Thoughts? Suggestions? -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 03:49:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08E1106566B for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (mailhub2.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360C68FC22 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brent.jones@otago.ac.nz) Received: from its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz (its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz [10.4.15.133]) by mailhub2.otago.ac.nz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2H3nNeU005028; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:49:24 +1300 Received: from its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.134]) by its-ex-p04.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:49:24 +1300 Received: from MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz ([10.4.15.129]) by its-ex-p05.registry.otago.ac.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:49:24 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:49:23 +1300 Message-ID: <31AE442CCBC1094ABC40CE85B0149F06523974@MAIL1.registry.otago.ac.nz> In-Reply-To: <64c038660803162036x661ae5fbgdf2d00f0dcc7d163@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ARP(4) spoofing? Thread-Index: AciH4EhnJoZn8hCVTrmeG/siMtIl9gAAW4sg References: <64c038660803162036x661ae5fbgdf2d00f0dcc7d163@mail.gmail.com> From: "Brent Jones" To: "Modulok" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2008 03:49:24.0105 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3E77F90:01C887E1] Cc: Subject: RE: ARP(4) spoofing? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:49:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Modulok > Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 4:36 p.m. > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: ARP(4) spoofing? >=20 > Would this be ARP(4) spoofing, or is it just me? How would I=20 > confirm it? >=20 > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on em1 > last message repeated 18 times > This is on a FreeBSD router, em1 is Internet-facing. 192.168.1.1 (em0) > is LAN facing and permanent entry in the arp cache. This happens > constantly and is slowly filling my log files. >=20 > Thoughts? Suggestions? > -Modulok- What does an "ifconfig -a" on your machine show? It looks like you've configured your loopback interface to also have 192.168.1.1 Cheers, Brent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 04:33:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCE9106566C for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from netuno.levier.com.br (netuno.levier.com.br [201.47.3.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A728FC1B for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) Received: from levier.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by netuno.levier.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2H3lEVp044326 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:33:53 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from lenzi@k1.com.br) X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (levier.com.br) Received: from [200.138.85.102] (authenticated as k1) by levier.com.br (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 17 Mar 2008 04:33:52 -0000 From: User Lenzi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080315010138.ddec4e8e.ejcerejo@optonline.net> References: <94136a2c0803101454l6ca76c99ma1fa1083d7ea2137@mail.gmail.com> <20080310231502.V7454@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1205268305.52059.16.camel@localhost> <20080315010138.ddec4e8e.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:33:51 -0300 Message-Id: <1205728431.3323.0.camel@k2.cwb.casa> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: EVOLUTION SLOW START , a workaround X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User