From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:01:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62BC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:01:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outmx023.isp.belgacom.be (outmx023.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.2.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4538043D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geert@lori.mine.nu) Received: from outmx023.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id i5K00ujA007068 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:00:56 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from lori.mine.nu (65-23.244.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.244.23.65]) with ESMTP id i5K00qde007042; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:00:52 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: by lori.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2F3C4E9; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:00:51 +0200 From: Geert Hendrickx To: Chris Smith Message-ID: <20040620000050.GA5563@lori.mine.nu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-GPG-Key: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~s005085/gnupgkey.txt X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/766C1E92 X-Accept-Language: nl,en cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An easy virtual pop solution not involving qmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:01:01 -0000 On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:15:30AM +0100, Chris Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently writing a proposal to replace our crapped out Redhat 9 web > server with FreeBSD 5-STABLE when it appears. In the process, I need to do > something with the mail server running on it. It's currently sendmail with > virtual domains and one user account per mailbox etc. Its performance is > piss poor and the users are complaining (there are 500 of the buggers and > they poll it all day and night). > > Is there an easier to manage solution that DOESN'T involve qmail where I > don't need to give users REAL accounts? I've seen several qmail-centric > documents floating around on the web but nothing concise and > straightforward. > > BTW - I'm not getting into a mail server religious war so don't even go > there ;-) > > Many Thanks, > > - Chris. Dovecot is an excellent and MTA-independant POP/IMAP-server, supporting virtual domains, virtual users, and various authentication mechanisms. Checkout ports/mail/dovecot or http://dovecot.procontrol.fi/ GH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:11:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1098916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:11:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D5943D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:11:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZK00EFZZ44BC@smtp19.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:09:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:09:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: Andy Harrison Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: problems installing applications that need GTK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:11:34 -0000 On stardate Sat, 19 Jun 2004, the wise Andy Harrison entered: > On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:56:57 +0200 (CEST), Marco Beishuizen > wrote: >> >> It looks like a lot of programs need gtk20, which doesn't install >> correctly. When I try gtk20 the error is: > > Please clarify "doesn't install correctly." I always get the error: couldn't recognize the image file format for file './stock_add_16.png'. Marco -- If preceded by a '-' , the timezone shall be east of the Prime Meridian; otherwise, it shall be west (which may be indicated by an optional preceding '+' ). -- POSIX 2001 The "+" or "-" indicates whether the time-of-day is ahead of (i.e., east of) or behind (i.e., west of) Universal Time. -- RFC 2822 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:16:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B857C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:16:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-10.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4C6843D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:16:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from waulok@bangrocks.com) Received: (qmail 30477 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2004 00:15:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smeghead.bangrocks.com) (203.173.18.228) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 00:15:52 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040620101525.01c1e458@mail.bangrocks.com> X-Sender: waulok@bangrocks.com@mail.bangrocks.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:15:46 +1000 To: Scott Mitchell From: Jason Oakley In-Reply-To: <20040619153131.GA462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <6.1.0.6.0.20040619191803.01dafa20@mail.bangrocks.com> <200406190745.29010.algould@datawok.com> <20040619153131.GA462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:16:03 -0000 Fantastic! Thanks, Scott! That did the trick! At 01:31 AM 20/06/2004, you wrote: >What does 'camcontrol devlist' say? Probably it will just list one device >(da0) that - as you've found - corresponds with the CF slot on your card >reader. The other slots are probably mapped to other LUNs (Logical Unit >Numbers) on the same SCSI device number. The CAM framework only probes LUN >0 by default, so you only see the first slot. For example, when my machine >boots, I have: > ># camcontrol devlist > at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4) > >which happens to by the SD/MMC slot on my four-slot reader. To make the >other slots visible I do: > ># camcontrol rescan 2:0:1 ># camcontrol rescan 2:0:2 ># camcontrol rescan 2:0:3 ># camcontrol devlist > at scbus2 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da4) > at scbus2 target 0 lun 1 (da5,pass1) > at scbus2 target 0 lun 2 (da6,pass2) > at scbus2 target 0 lun 3 (da7,pass3) > >where the '2' and '0' come from the 'scbus' and 'target' parts of the >devlist output - these will probably be different for your system. So now >I have da{5,6,7} corresponding to the SmartMedia, CF and Memory Stick slots >on my reader. > >I actually have all those 'camcontrol rescan' commands in my /etc/usbd.conf >file, so everything is set up automatically when the reader is detected. >You might also want to look into using the automounter to avoid having to >mount things manually - it's pretty convenient to be able to plug in a card >then just 'cd /flash/cf' (or whatever) to access it. Dan Pelleg wrote a >pretty good article about this on DaemonNews last year: > >http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200305/cfmount.html > >Hope that's some help to you, > > Scott --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bangrocks.com/ - http://www.auspug.org/ http://www.ZigZagSoft.com/ - PalmOS Software and "Palm Games Programming" forum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:33:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1925516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:33:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dime54.dizinc.com (dime54.dizinc.com [66.194.239.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49E743D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:33:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@solisix.com) Received: from c-67-172-98-39.client.comcast.net ([67.172.98.39] helo=[192.168.1.13]) by dime54.dizinc.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BbqGQ-0008KR-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:32:51 -0400 From: Bruce To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Solisix Software Message-Id: <1087691550.36464.3.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:32:30 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: bhunter@solisix.com,freebsd@solisix.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dime54.dizinc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - solisix.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: OpenOffice and Java downloads are such a pain! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:33:12 -0000 I can't believe how much of a pain installing Open-Office 2.0 from the ports collection is. The port fails and tells me I need to download a file from Sun because of licensing restrictions, so I download the file it tells me too. Then start the compiling over again. Once again, I need a different file. This is driving me crazy. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:44:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA0A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web20326.mail.yahoo.com (web20326.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D93343D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lkosz1@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040620004317.28338.qmail@web20326.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.230.188.100] by web20326.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:43:17 PDT Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 17:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lukasz Koszanski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Cannot compile jdk14 for Freebsd 5.2.1 - weired problem occures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:44:16 -0000 make install ===> Installing for jdk-1.4.2p6_4 ===> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on executable: javavm - found ===> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/fonts.dir - found This is basically what happens: Please use `make -DWITH_DEBUG' if you want to install libraries and binaries with debugging support. ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if java/jdk14 already installed /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 cd /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/make/../build/bsd-i586/j2sdk-image && /usr/bin/find . | -pdmu -R root:wheel /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 -pdmu: not found *** Error code 127 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk14 Thank you for your time and effort, Luke. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 00:46:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1527816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:46:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAF143D45 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:46:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE01B83D for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:46:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08902-07 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:46:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CFEB83C for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:46:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:46:18 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <1087691550.36464.3.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1087691550.36464.3.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_d5N1Aw6SRs/BfOj"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406191946.21754.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: OpenOffice and Java downloads are such a pain! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:46:33 -0000 --Boundary-02=_d5N1Aw6SRs/BfOj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 19 June 2004 07:32 pm, Bruce wrote: > I can't believe how much of a pain installing Open-Office 2.0 from the > ports collection is. The port fails and tells me I need to download a > file from Sun because of licensing restrictions... Be sure you're distinguishing between OOo and Java. The former isn't the=20 cause. > so I download the file it tells me too. Then start the compiling over > again. Once again, I need a different file. This is driving me crazy.=20 Now you know why noone regards Java as free software. =2D-=20 Kirk Strauser --Boundary-02=_d5N1Aw6SRs/BfOj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQBA1N5d5sRg+Y0CpvERAudVAJdW9TajH8mDzjDxasIsrQ10P2VOAJwPp6Iu WrieDb7h3/xBLX3A1ig1gA== =0eZM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_d5N1Aw6SRs/BfOj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 01:27:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3B716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:27:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D60E43D31 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:27:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 55183 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2004 18:36:17 -0000 Received: from batv-01-006.dialup.netins.net (HELO xyz.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.7) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2004 18:36:17 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20040619133345.081f0490@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:35:37 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <3683.81.84.175.12.1087641634.squirrel@81.84.175.12> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040618171859.076d9490@209.152.117.178> <4636.81.84.175.12.1087585711.squirrel@81.84.175.12> <5.1.0.14.2.20040618171859.076d9490@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: klr@6s-gaming.com Subject: Re: LED proggy question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:27:54 -0000 Hey Hugo, Thanks for the info!=20 I don't think that the rest of the list got the reply because "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" wasn't in one of the recipient fields. I don't know why the list doesn't include it. Regards, W. D.=20 At 05:40 6/19/2004, klr@6s-gaming.com, wrote: >Hey, > >I got this working, but only with a x-based program. I pkg_add'ed X and >started a small session with a xterm to be able to run this program (name >is xleds). For the interested guys, here is the script: > >ipfw-visual.sh: > >#!/bin/sh >tail -f /var/log/ipfw.log | \ > awk ' >$0 ~ /ICMP/ { >system("sh /scripts/scrlock"); >} >$0 ~ /TCP/ { >system("sh /scripts/numlock"); >} >$0 ~ /UDP/ { >system("sh /scripts/capslock"); >} >' > >all the /scripts/*lock consist of the following: > >#/bin/sh >xleds num >#sleep 0.05 >xleds num > >Change num for caps or scrl. I moved xleds to /usr/local/bin so don't need >a path. You can find this xleds thing easily on google :-) > >Initially I added a sleep delay, but when much traffic was being blocked >continuously it would keep on blinking the light a lot of time after >(because of the sleep delay), so later I removed this. > > > >Regards, > >Hugo >> At 14:08 6/18/2004, klr@6s-gaming.com, wrote: >>>hey, >>> >>>I've been trying to find a program on the ports that allows me to change >>>the state of the keyboard LEDs. I want to put the keyboard on the room >>>wall and make a script to call a program which makes leds blink according >>>to the kind of traffic being blocked on the firewall. I want a program >>>like: >>> >>>blink 1 - blinks num lock >>>blink 2 - blinks caps lock >>>blink 3 - blinks scroll lock >>> >>>If there isn't such a program on the ports, perhaps someone with the >>>knowledge to write this program could do it ? I don't touch C for many >>>many years and couldn't find any function to do this. >>> >>>Any help appreciated! :-) >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Hugo >> >> Hugo, >> >> This sound insane, but very cool. Please let us know if you >> can get it to work. If FreeBSD has Linux emulation: >>= http://www.Google.com/search?q=3Dkeyboard+kylix+%22num+lock%22+%22caps+lock= %22 >> >> Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> >> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ >> $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > >--=20 >www.6s-gaming.com Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 01:30:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8563E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133AA43D31 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from j.e.drews@att.net) Received: from 204.127.135.76 ([204.127.135.76]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20040620013017113001l80te>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:17 +0000 Received: from [64.105.56.145] by 204.127.135.76; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:11 +0000 From: j.e.drews@att.net To: Lloyd Hayes Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:11 +0000 Message-Id: <062020040130.7425.40D4E8A30001617300001D0121612436469C990A9D0BD20AD206@att.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (May 27 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: ai5lLmRyZXdzQGF0dC5uZXQ= cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:30:23 -0000 Hi Lloyd: I heartily recommend "FreeBSD: An Open-Source OS for your PC". by Annelise Anderson http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html This is the book for absolute beginners. If you think a port is a place where ships dock and bash is a goth discoteque dance, then this is the book you should be reading. The next great resource are the tutorials by Dru Lavigne: FreeBSD Basics http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 Whether judged by pedagogic, technical or literary standards, Dru's articles are works of high perfection. Finally, I recommend getting Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD". The book is a great resource for technical details about FreeBSD 5.X. I found the sections on TCP/IP and the etc file system to be very helpfully. HTH Jonathan > I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I > got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting > errors again.... > > So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews > posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak > documentation, too much information about things that they were not > interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most > common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've > formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. > FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for > beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples > that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There > seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around. > > I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to > learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent > me. Thanks for all of the info. > > -- > > Lloyd Hayes > > Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com > URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com > E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 01:35:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E658816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:35:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [150.104.224.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB5943D31 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:35:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dbkorink@eagle.fgcu.edu) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by eagle.fgcu.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i5K1dtmG004272 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:39:55 GMT From: "Douglas Korinke" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:39:55 -0500 Message-Id: <20040620013709.M54061@eagle.fgcu.edu> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040103 X-OriginatingIP: unknown (dbkorink) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Miscellaneous Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:35:24 -0000 Hi, I'm a 2 week old FreeBSD 4.9 user who has never used UN*X in my entire life and I was running into a few problems that I haven't been able to find help with. I have been attempting to get my pcmcia wireless card running on my laptop, I have identified the driver to install (wi), but am quite clueless on how to do so. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot, Doug ICQ : 26096369 AIM : itss0lidstate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 01:49:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CCA16A4D1 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:49:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omega.noc.uk.easynet.net (omega.noc.uk.easynet.net [212.135.8.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4040A43D41 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:49:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from anthony.edwards@uk.easynet.net) Received: from aedwards by omega.noc.uk.easynet.net with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BbrSW-0003x6-9U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:49:24 +0100 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:49:24 +0100 From: Anthony Edwards To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040620014924.GA5993@omega.noc.uk.easynet.net> References: <065701c45573$ee66c8d0$0b01a8c0@andrewxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <065701c45573$ee66c8d0$0b01a8c0@andrewxp> Organization: easynet Ltd User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i Subject: Re: 4.10 stable: xfree86 driver for ati rage xl chipset? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:49:48 -0000 On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 04:36:26PM -0400, andrew kagan wrote: > Hi All: > > I've been trying to install xfree86 at the same time I'm installing 4.10 > stable. > > The graphical configuration tool comes up fine, but when I try to specify > the adapter, there's nothing in the list that refers to "ATI" at all. > > If I try to select the default vga adapter, after the config is written and > xfree86 attempts to load, my video doesn't work at all. > > Is there a way to drop out of xfree86 at this point, even before install has > completed? I can't proceed to complete the install at this point. > > Or should I be skipping configuration of xfree86 at this point and do it > after FreeBSD is installed? You might want to try installing FreeBSD stable without X, and then once installed go to: /usr/ports/x11/xorg And install this meta port of the X.Org X11R6.7.0 release. Once installed, follow the instructions at: http://freedesktop.org/XOrg/ConfigurationHelp I found that the best way to configure X11R6.7.0 is to first run (as root) X -configure, which does an excellent job of detecting my hardware. I next copy the resultant configuration file to the correct location as decribed, then carry out final tweaking using both manual editing of the config file and xorgcfg -textmode. X11R6.7.0 performs much more satisfactorily with my ATI Radeon 9200 graphics card and Iiyaya Vision Master 1451 monitor than I have been able to persuade XFree86 4.3.0 to do, and what helps greatly is that post installation configuration is simplicity itself. -- Anthony Edwards anthony.edwards@uk.easynet.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 01:59:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91E816A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51606.mail.yahoo.com (web51606.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C26243D55 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:59:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jay2xra@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040620015951.17472.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [210.23.172.55] by web51606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:59:51 PDT Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Jayson Alvarez To: Lloyd Hayes , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:59:56 -0000 Hi Lloyd, Let me share you my experience with learning freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those expensive books that you have bought after reading my story.. A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user. I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not exactly Unix.. That friend of mine was convincing me to use the same OS he's using but I refused to cause I've seen nothing graphical with he's OS(running the whole thing in Terminal without using any Desktop environment). But then something bright have sparked in my mind and decided to search Google for "best Operating System". And so I've landed on Windows, Freebsd, MacOS and, Linux comparison.. Of the four OS's featured, I've never heard anything about FreeBSD and so I went to their site to find out more... And my journey began there... After finishing the installation of Freebsd(using only the handbook and nothing else) I've landed on this so called terminal.. Mind you, I'm completely new to Unix and I know not a thing, not even the "ls" command.. Learning that FreeBSD is a Unix like operating system, I began searching google for "Unix commands" and I've downloaded something in PDF format comparing the commands in MSDOS(which I'm used with) and those that are used in Unix.. And that's it!!! With a few resources at hand I was able to do all of the things I used to do in Windows without having too much trouble in FreeBSD.. Now, I'm still reading FreeBSD's Handbook and I'm already on the Chapter 19-Advance Networking.. preparing my self for a career in Networking being just a fresh graduate.. I tell you... learning one thing is not about the those fancy Documents and instructions that would help you out along the way... It's about having that willingness and passion to learn that thing.. It's about having the confidence that, "hey, if they've learned this, why can't I?!" Knowledge is a long race, and don't you worry my friend.. you're not the last in this race... 'cause no one has ever gone too far.. Hope this thought would help you out and all of those beginners like "us" whom would want to dwell into the simple but complicated world of Unix computing... Regards to all Mailers -jay:-) --- Lloyd Hayes wrote: > I finally decided that I needed to get more > information on FreeBSD. I > got it up and running, then I did something else and > I start getting > errors again.... > > So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In > most of the reviews > posted there about the books, people were > complaining about weak > documentation, too much information about things > that they were not > interested in, and errors in the in the books which > seems to be the most > common complaint. In my very short recent history > with FreeBSD, I've > formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's > greatest weakness. > FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write > a good book for > beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is > needed with examples > that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in > plain English. There > seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around. > > I have decided that it is a very good operating > system which I need to > learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links > that everyone sent > me. Thanks for all of the info. > > -- > > Lloyd Hayes > > Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com > URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com > E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:02:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AFD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:02:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D0043D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:02:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecarmody@optonline.net) Received: from edsdell8200 (ool-4354dca5.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.220.165]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00MPR4B5MS@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:55 -0400 From: Edward Carmody To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <004401c4566a$8fd29040$0468a8c0@edsdell8200> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: missing libintl.so.5 ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:02:22 -0000 Hi, I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing Apache2, I get the following: ========================================================================= [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257 ===> Building for autoconf-2.57_1 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2. ========================================================================= I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5 on my system: ========================================================================= [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl* /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libintl.a /usr/local/include/libintl.h /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl ibc /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi ntl.so.6 /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi ntl.so /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi ntl.a /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi ntl.lai /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi ntl.la /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint l.so.6 /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint l.so /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint l.a /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint l.lai /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint l.la /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # ========================================================================= I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install other ports; I don't know where to go from here. Any help is greatly appreciated. Ed Carmody From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:04:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CA516A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:04:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [150.104.224.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B93043D58 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:04:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dbkorink@eagle.fgcu.edu) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by eagle.fgcu.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i5K28amG010924 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:08:36 GMT From: "Douglas Korinke" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 21:08:36 -0500 Message-Id: <20040620020552.M20396@eagle.fgcu.edu> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040103 X-OriginatingIP: unknown (dbkorink) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:04:22 -0000 Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts to help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse. Thanks again, Doug ICQ : 26096369 AIM : itss0lidstate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:06:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FED16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:06:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p1028-ipbffx02marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp (p1028-ipbffx02marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [220.111.132.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC4543D46 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:06:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lukek@meibin.net) Received: (qmail 3614 invoked by uid 89); 20 Jun 2004 02:06:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.10.8?) (192.168.10.8) by 192.168.20.5 with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 02:06:31 -0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:30 +0900 From: Luke Kearney To: Edward Carmody In-Reply-To: <004401c4566a$8fd29040$0468a8c0@edsdell8200> References: <004401c4566a$8fd29040$0468a8c0@edsdell8200> Message-Id: <20040620110202.1A1D.LUKEK@meibin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.07.01 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing libintl.so.5 ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:06:59 -0000 On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:55 -0400 Edward Carmody spake thus: > Hi, > > I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing Apache2, > I get the following: > > ========================================================================= > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install > ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found > ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in > /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257 > ===> Building for autoconf-2.57_1 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2. > ========================================================================= > > I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5 > on my system: > ========================================================================= > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl* > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so > /usr/local/lib/libintl.a > /usr/local/include/libintl.h > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl > ibc > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.so.6 > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.so > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.a > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.lai > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.so.6 > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.so > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.a > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.lai > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # > ========================================================================= > > I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install > other ports; I don't know where to go from here. Any help is greatly > appreciated. you'll need to upgrade gettext and recursively at that too. umm portupgrade -uR gettext will probably fix your ails. HTH LukeK -- Luke Kearney From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:19:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384C016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bilbo.otenet.gr (bilbo.otenet.gr [195.170.0.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612BF43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a239.otenet.gr [212.205.215.239]) i5K2JB1N030936; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 05:19:12 +0300 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5K2JAew033175; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 05:19:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5K2J9J4033174; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 05:19:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 05:19:09 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Douglas Korinke Message-ID: <20040620021909.GA33094@gothmog.gr> References: <20040620020552.M20396@eagle.fgcu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040620020552.M20396@eagle.fgcu.edu> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcuts for x windows system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:19:26 -0000 On 2004-06-19 21:08, Douglas Korinke wrote: > Running FreeBSD 4.9 and am trying to find a list of keyboard shortcuts > to help me exit the x windows system without the help of the mouse. CTRL+ALT+Backspace should bring down the entire X server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:46:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D32116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-06.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC1A643D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:46:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from waulok@bangrocks.com) Received: (qmail 9967 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2004 02:46:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smeghead.bangrocks.com) (203.173.18.228) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 02:46:00 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040620124105.01c4e8a0@mail.bangrocks.com> X-Sender: waulok@bangrocks.com@mail.bangrocks.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:45:57 +1000 To: Scott Mitchell From: Jason Oakley In-Reply-To: <20040619153131.GA462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <6.1.0.6.0.20040619191803.01dafa20@mail.bangrocks.com> <200406190745.29010.algould@datawok.com> <20040619153131.GA462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:46:04 -0000 I set up automount, but that's not working. usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered I also get this after a reboot now: umass0: vendor 0x55aa 8-in-2, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 3 umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): got CAM status 0x4 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry I can't mount by hand now. I don't know if that has to do with the automounter: $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/CF Just sits there doing nothing. $ sudo truss mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt/CF readlink("/etc/malloc.conf",0xbfbff960,63) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' mmap(0x0,4096,0x3,0x1002,-1,0x0) = 671555584 (0x28072000) break(0x807b000) = 0 (0x0) break(0x807c000) = 0 (0x0) lstat("/mnt",0xbfbfee30) = 0 (0x0) lstat("/mnt/CF",0xbfbfee30) = 0 (0x0) readlink("/mnt/CF","/host/localhost/CF",1023) = 18 (0x12) lstat("/host",0xbfbfee30) = 0 (0x0) lstat("/host/localhost",0xbfbfee30) = 0 (0x0) stalls there More of the same: umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED nfs server pid110@spooty:/host: not responding umass0: BBB reset failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, STALLED umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, STALLED At 01:31 AM 20/06/2004, Scott Mitchell wrote: >What does 'camcontrol devlist' say? Probably it will just list one device >(da0) that - as you've found - corresponds with the CF slot on your card >reader. The other slots are probably mapped to other LUNs (Logical Unit >Numbers) on the same SCSI device number. The CAM framework only probes LUN >0 by default, so you only see the first slot. For example, when my machine >boots, I have: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.bangrocks.com/ - http://www.auspug.org/ http://www.ZigZagSoft.com/ - PalmOS Software and "Palm Games Programming" forum From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:55:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3923016A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:55:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA1243D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dlsnyder2@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pcp09414937pcs.aubrnh01.mi.comcast.net[68.60.56.5]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200406200255330140024v8pe> (Authid: dlsnyder2); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:55:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <48A58E28-C265-11D8-958A-000A95A8519A@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: David Snyder Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:55:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Subject: FreeBSD 5.2.1 & OpenLDAP21-server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:55:34 -0000 I installed a minimal FreeBSD 5.2.1 Then installed Openldap21-server from ports with # make install clean Then installed a script cp /usr/ports/net/openldap21-server /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd.sh configured slapd.conf & ldap.conf manually started ldap with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start and everything worked but the script won't work. So then i viewed teh script and added the three lines to /etc/rc.d that was stated in the script. I rebooted and still ldap didn't start on boot but i can do it manually with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start Whats the deal? WHat am I doing wrong? -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 02:56:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A56F16A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:56:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp25.singnet.com.sg (smtp25.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE87B43D46 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:55:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@allservers.net) Received: from astral (bb-203-125-28-192.singnet.com.sg [203.125.28.192]) by smtp25.singnet.com.sg (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i5K2tt4k017037 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:55:55 +0800 Message-ID: <010d01c45672$24053cc0$fa10fea9@astral> From: "John Lee" To: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:56:09 +0800 Organization: AllServers SG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Subject: cvsup coredump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Lee List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 02:56:05 -0000 Why does it always coredump? Connecting to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org Connected to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org Server software version: SNAP_16_1h Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs make buildworld && make installworld Checkout src/contrib/binutils/gas/config/obj-coff.c *** *** runtime error: *** Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL *** pc = 0x9e634d9e *** use option @M3stackdump to get a stack trace Abort trap (core dumped) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 03:04:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from metafocus.net (cbshost-12-155-142-123.sbcox.net [12.155.142.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8FA43D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:04:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mudman@metafocus.net) Received: from metafocus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metafocus.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5K3GaWI000565; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mudman@metafocus.net) Received: from localhost (mudman@localhost)i5K3Gaj0000562; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mudman@metafocus.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave To: John Lee In-Reply-To: <010d01c45672$24053cc0$fa10fea9@astral> Message-ID: <20040619201525.B554@metafocus.net> References: <010d01c45672$24053cc0$fa10fea9@astral> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup coredump X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:04:37 -0000 There were some security problems with cvs awhile ago. I think it is unlikely that cvsup3.jpg.FreeBSD.org though would be suffering. Have you tried another cvsup server? Are you running the latest updates of FreeBSD? On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, John Lee wrote: > Why does it always coredump? > > Connecting to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org > Connected to cvsup3.jp.FreeBSD.org > Server software version: SNAP_16_1h > Negotiating file attribute support > Exchanging collection information > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection > Running > Updating collection src-all/cvs > make buildworld && make installworld Checkout > src/contrib/binutils/gas/config/obj-coff.c > *** > *** runtime error: > *** Segmentation violation - possible attempt to dereference NIL > *** pc = 0x9e634d9e > *** > use option @M3stackdump to get a stack trace > Abort trap (core dumped) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 03:26:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC76716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:26:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dime54.dizinc.com (dime54.dizinc.com [66.194.239.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D29A43D48 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:26:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@solisix.com) Received: from c-67-172-98-39.client.comcast.net ([67.172.98.39] helo=[192.168.1.13]) by dime54.dizinc.com with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BbsyY-00046n-Of for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:26:34 -0400 From: Bruce To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Solisix Software Message-Id: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:26:13 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: bhunter@solisix.com,freebsd@solisix.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dime54.dizinc.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - solisix.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Cd burning and what app to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:26:57 -0000 Hello all, Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd burning software is really good from the ports collection? I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's. Or make data cd's. Thanks, Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 03:55:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9F516A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:55:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.jodeit.com (mail.jodeit.com [207.10.131.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957F343D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:55:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from denny@jodeit.com) Received: from gdennyj [207.10.131.111] by mail.jodeit.com (SMTPD32-7.07) id AA0E169900E2; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:52:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c4567a$5e58e720$6f830acf@gdennyj> From: "Denny Jodeit" To: "Mark Jayson Alvarez" , "Lloyd Hayes" , References: <20040620015951.17472.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:55:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Declude-Sender: denny@jodeit.com [207.10.131.111] X-Spam-Tests-Failed: IPNOTINMX [-5] X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:55:10 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jayson Alvarez" To: "Lloyd Hayes" ; Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) > Hi Lloyd, > > Let me share you my experience with learning > freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those > expensive books that you have bought after reading my > story.. > > A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user. > I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not > exactly Unix.. That friend of mine was convincing me > to use the same OS he's using but I refused to cause > I've seen nothing graphical with he's OS(running the > whole thing in Terminal without using any Desktop > environment). But then something bright have sparked > in my mind and decided to search Google for "best > Operating System". And so I've landed on Windows, > Freebsd, MacOS and, Linux comparison.. Of the four > OS's featured, I've never heard anything about FreeBSD > and so I went to their site to find out more... And my > journey began there... > After finishing the installation of Freebsd(using > only the handbook and nothing else) I've landed on > this so called terminal.. Mind you, I'm completely new > to Unix and I know not a thing, not even the "ls" > command.. Learning that FreeBSD is a Unix like > operating system, I began searching google for "Unix > commands" and I've downloaded something in PDF format > comparing the commands in MSDOS(which I'm used with) > and those that are used in Unix.. > And that's it!!! With a few resources at hand I was > able to do all of the things I used to do in Windows > without having too much trouble in FreeBSD.. > Now, I'm still reading FreeBSD's Handbook and I'm > already on the Chapter 19-Advance Networking.. > preparing my self for a career in Networking being > just a fresh graduate.. > I tell you... learning one thing is not about the > those fancy Documents and instructions that would help > you out along the way... It's about having that > willingness and passion to learn that thing.. It's > about having the confidence that, "hey, if they've > learned this, why can't I?!" Knowledge is a long race, > and don't you worry my friend.. you're not the last in > this race... 'cause no one has ever gone too far.. > > Hope this thought would help you out and all of > those beginners like "us" whom would want to dwell > into the simple but complicated world of Unix > computing... > > Regards to all Mailers > -jay:-) > > > Jay, You got the spirit. >From what you've said here, you went at it exactly like I did. Denny From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 03:59:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F3B16A4FC for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:59:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E4343D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecarmody@optonline.net) Received: from edsdell8200 (ool-4354dca5.dyn.optonline.net [67.84.220.165]) by mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00MJY9Q4T1@mta10.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:58:55 -0400 From: Edward Carmody In-reply-to: <20040620110202.1A1D.LUKEK@meibin.net> To: 'Luke Kearney' Message-id: <004901c4567a$e85e9cd0$0468a8c0@edsdell8200> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: missing libintl.so.5 ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:59:45 -0000 I did a portupgrade -ruf gettext, and that fixed it. Thanks Luke, thanks List. -----Original Message----- From: Luke Kearney [mailto:lukek@meibin.net] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 10:05 PM To: Edward Carmody Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: missing libintl.so.5 ?? On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:01:55 -0400 Edward Carmody spake thus: > Hi, > > I've apparently botched a portupgrade (I think?)...when installing Apache2, > I get the following: > > ========================================================================= > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # make install > ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.6.1 - found > ===> apache-2.0.49_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 - not > found > ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/bin/autoconf257 in > /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257 > ===> Building for autoconf-2.57_1 > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libintl.so.5" not found > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/autoconf257. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache2. > ========================================================================= > > I've googled, and tried upgrading gettext, I still don't have libintl.so.5 > on my system: > ========================================================================= > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # find / -name libintl* > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6 > /usr/local/lib/libintl.so > /usr/local/lib/libintl.a > /usr/local/include/libintl.h > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.gl > ibc > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.so.6 > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.so > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.a > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.lai > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs/libi > ntl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-runtime/intl/libintl.h > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.so.6 > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.so > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.a > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.lai > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/.libs/libint > l.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.la > /usr/ports/devel/gettext/work/gettext-0.13.1/gettext-tools/intl/libintl.h > [root@oberon /usr/ports/www/apache2] # > ========================================================================= > > I've seen the same complaint about libintl.so.5 while trying to install > other ports; I don't know where to go from here. Any help is greatly > appreciated. you'll need to upgrade gettext and recursively at that too. umm portupgrade -uR gettext will probably fix your ails. HTH LukeK -- Luke Kearney From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 04:24:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0476316A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:24:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3414243D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:24:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jqdkf@army.com) Received: from 120-22.priv.nus.edu.sg (175-224.priv19.nus.edu.sg [172.19.175.224]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id i5K4NKrc015499 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:23:22 +0800 (SGT) Received: (qmail 26289 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Jun 2004 04:23:20 -0000 From: jqdkf@army.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:23:19 +0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040620042319.GA25895@cactus.homeunix.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Cd burning and what app to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:24:33 -0000 On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:26:13PM -0400, Bruce wrote: > Hello all, > > Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd > burning software is really good from the ports collection? > > I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's. > > Or make data cd's. burncd in the base system will do. -- Zeng Nan Simple is Beautiful. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 06:12:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E7516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:12:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4999643D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:12:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5K6CUEd001384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:12:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id i5K6CU4c001383; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:12:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:12:30 -0500 From: Skylar Thompson To: Stephan van Beerschoten Message-ID: <20040620061230.GA1007@quark.cs.earlham.edu> References: <20040615232856.GE24771@enigma.whacky.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040615232856.GE24771@enigma.whacky.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE X-Uptime: 1:03AM up 1 day, 21:47, 18 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.12, 0.12 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 (2003 Jun 1, compiled May 19 2004 13:14:50) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server hardware recommendations ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:12:32 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:28:56AM +0200, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote: > Hi Folks, >=20 > I'm will be retiring my old and trusty rackmount machine soon and will > be purchasing a new one to replace it. The old one was a home-grown > combination of hardware, fitting into a 2U chassis. >=20 > For its replacement however, I am looking for a more professional > system, including professional (hardware) support if needed, because I > will be trying to run some paid services of it. > Something from a vendor like Dell, IBM or HP/Compaq. > Something that preferably fits into 1U and can give me some degree of > hardware fault tolerance like a raid5 built-in on 3 disks. > I have seen something like this coming from Dell for example (allthough > I'd really rather use 2x AMD64, which Dell doesn't do ..) >=20 > Anyway, who is using FreeBSD in a professional world on hardware like > this ? Anyone with a recommendation? > This 'swap' won't happen untill Q4 this year, so it will be running > 5-STABLE then. Please take this new platform into consideration for when > recommending new hardware. Although I can highly recommend Dell systems, FreeBSD has an annoying bug wrt to their 1U system (the Poweredge 1750) where the SCSI bus will hang if you have more than one device installed at boot time. This apparently doesn't happen if you have the $400 RAID option card installed; it only happens when the SCSI bus is a plain SCSI bus. Other than that, I've been very happy with Poweredges. We also have 2650 running FreeBSD 4.10, and it's been a pleasure to work with. It's blazingly fast (especially compared to our old dual P-III setup), reliable, and has FreeBSD support for *everything*. There's a software utility for the PERC RAID card (aaccli), a kernel support for the remote-access controller, etc. I'd highly recommend it. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1SrOsc4yyULgN4YRAv82AJwM+LvliiYti8pD2v4S2S9QkRZgvQCfcD2m /BFuIjn1zqVedwJGnbxtaZ8= =vfbh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 06:22:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:22:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DEE843D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:22:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5K6MExc001964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:22:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id i5K6MDa2001963; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:22:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:22:13 -0500 From: Skylar Thompson To: Frank BONNET Message-ID: <20040620062213.GB1007@quark.cs.earlham.edu> References: <20040616114343.GA11998@mail.esiee.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040616114343.GA11998@mail.esiee.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE X-Uptime: 1:03AM up 1 day, 21:47, 18 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.12, 0.12 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 (2003 Jun 1, compiled May 19 2004 13:14:50) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Migrating my mailhub from 4.9 to 5.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:22:16 -0000 --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:43:43PM +0200, Frank BONNET wrote: > Hello >=20 > I am in the process to migrate my mailhub ( ~3000 mailboxes ) from 4.9 > to the next 5.x release to be able to use native nss_ldap and pam_ldap. >=20 > I have tested the 5.2.1 version on another smallest machine and most > of my needings are working. >=20 > BUT >=20 > I need also to change the webmail I use actually as it seems to be not > supported anymore , this is IMHO working on the Roxen http server. >=20 > I need a webmail that works with uw-imap ( mandatory ) and the maildox > format as I have to keep a large amount of mailboxes and don't want > want to use the maildir format for now. >=20 > Any recommendations on the webmail I should use ?=20 > I have tested some on my spare machine but really don't know how they=20 > will work under a "production load"=20 >=20 > The machine is a HP/Compaq Proliant GL380 with 2 Gb RAM=20 > and a lot of disk space. I'd highly recommend Squirrelmail (http://www.squirrelmail.org). I use it on a couple servers at work (a campus-wide server, and a server specific to the CS department), and it works great. It's got a good plugin system, and is reasonably fast (and with options to make it very fast). Another one to look at is OpenWebmail (http://openwebmail.org). I haven't used this in a production environment, so I don't have much practical knowledge of it. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1S0Vsc4yyULgN4YRAu/rAJ9Rjiqi/b3lvHsR2qVY0EjxLg8htgCfT9F6 kWFL3beJydqMI/7cB6Y7uiU= =nDuY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 06:33:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB5B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:33:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (cs.earlham.edu [159.28.230.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC0743D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:33:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: from quark.cs.earlham.edu (localhost.cs.earlham.edu [127.0.0.1]) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5K6XIVL002437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:33:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) Received: (from skylar@localhost) by quark.cs.earlham.edu (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id i5K6XHag002436; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:33:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from skylar@cs.earlham.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: quark.cs.earlham.edu: skylar set sender to skylar@quark.cs.earlham.edu using -f Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:33:17 -0500 From: Skylar Thompson To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040620063317.GC1007@quark.cs.earlham.edu> References: <200406181113.i5IBDh1E035926@dc.cis.okstate.edu> <20040618170634.GE684@rtl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040618170634.GE684@rtl.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Sender: "Skylar Thompson" X-Accept-Primary-Language: en X-Accept-Secondary-Language: es SMTP-Mailing-Host: quark.cs.earlham.edu X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE X-Uptime: 1:03AM up 1 day, 21:47, 18 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.12, 0.12 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 (2003 Jun 1, compiled May 19 2004 13:14:50) Subject: Re: Sendmail for Large Sites X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Skylar Thompson List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 06:33:31 -0000 --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 01:06:34PM -0400, Jason Stewart wrote: > On 18/06/04 06:13 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > >=20 > > There are other considerations such as the facts that all > > incoming and outgoing messages are checked for malicious attachments. > > ldap is used to drive the setting of customer mail delivery > > preferences and even their user ID choice. > >=20 >=20 > Hi Martin, >=20 > Sendmail and Postfix can do the virus scanning. You're going to need > some serious firepower to scan all attachments for 25000 users. It depends on how much email these users are generating. I'm an admin for a small CS department at a liberal arts college. We support around 250 users (math, physics, CS, alums, and professors). On a normal day, we process between 1000 and 3000 messages. Our email server is a Dell Poweredge 2650 with dual 2.8GHz processors and 1GB of RAM. We run Sendmail with MailScanner, which in turn invokes its own testing rubrics and disarming routines along with SpamAssassin and ClamAV. Benchmarking this system indicated that we could process over 1,000,000 messages a day. And with MailScanner, incoming mail will queue up if MailScanner can't keep up for a while, so you never actually send back the temporary failure codes you have to use with milters. This system is hardly "big iron" (or any kind of iron, for that matter), and cost less than $5000. If he supports 25,000 users, he should be able to scare up at least that much money. --=20 -- Skylar Thompson (skylar@cs.earlham.edu) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1S+tsc4yyULgN4YRAhdIAJ4x+WhdABiooN5BcD+x9Ipidn6jpQCfXrZQ qEM6AR/fccczPtka4DO17HM= =Fdnb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V88s5gaDVPzZ0KCq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 07:10:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0042916A4CE; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:10:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE4E43D5D; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:10:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E367AE06A; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 41650-08; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 22815AE064; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040620071002.22815AE064@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-05-30 - 2004-06-19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:10:34 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 15-Jun : IBM ThinkPad T41 Installing and configuring FreeBSD and XFree86 http://freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php?2 4-Jun : Stolen laptop - used on MSN? Did someone use my laptop on MSN? http://freebsddiary.org/laptop-stolen-msn.php?2 1-Jun : Bacula - Sony SDT 10000 New DAT drive, new tests http://freebsddiary.org/bacula-sony-sdt-10000.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 07:43:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4216A4CE; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:43:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBB943D45; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:43:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5K7h5JW026162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:43:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5K7h51l026161; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:43:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:43:03 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:43:29 -0000 Hello! I'm writing a message-digest utility, which operates on file and can use either stdio: while (not eof) { char buffer[BUFSIZE]; size = read(.... buffer ...); process(buffer, size); } or mmap: buffer = mmap(... file_size, PROT_READ ...); process(buffer, file_size); I expected the second way to be faster, as it is supposed to avoid one memory copying (no user-space buffer). But in reality, on a CPU-bound (rather than IO-bound) machine, using mmap() is considerably slower. Here are the tcsh's time results: Single Pentium2-400MHz running 4.8-stable: ------------------------------------------ stdio: 56.837u 34.115s 2:06.61 71.8% 66+193k 11253+0io 3pf+0w mmap: 72.463u 7.534s 2:34.62 51.7% 5+186k 105+0io 22328pf+0w Dual Pentium2 Xeon 450MHz running recent -current: -------------------------------------------------- stdio: 36.557u 29.395s 3:09.88 34.7% 10+165k 32646+0io 0pf+0w mmap: 42.052u 7.545s 2:02.25 40.5% 10+169k 16+0io 15232pf+0w On the IO-bound machine, using mmap is only marginally faster: Single Pentium4M (Centrino 1GHz) runing recent -current: -------------------------------------------------------- stdio: 27.195u 8.280s 1:33.02 38.1% 10+169k 11221+0io 1pf+0w mmap: 26.619u 3.004s 1:23.59 35.4% 10+169k 47+0io 19463pf+0w Notice the last two columns in time's output -- why is page-faulting a page in -- on-demand -- so much slower then read()-ing it? I even tried inserting ``madvise(buffer, file_size, MADV_SEQUENTIAL)'' between the mmap() and the process() -- made difference at all (or made the mmap() take slightly longer)... I this how things are supposed to be, or will mmap() become more efficient eventually? Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 07:59:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A258316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:59:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mcp.lphp.org (ASt-Lambert-152-2-7-247.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.120.201.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0D43D45 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:59:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) Received: from bsdbox.lphp.local (bsdbox.lphp.local [192.168.0.2]) by mcp.lphp.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5K7xJRb070464; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:59:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ajacoutot@lphp.org) From: Antoine Jacoutot To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:59:19 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406200959.19024.ajacoutot@lphp.org> cc: Joe Schmoe Subject: Re: UFS2 and ufs2 documentation ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:59:57 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 01:29, Joe Schmoe wrote: > Quick question - when I run `mount` or view /etc/fstab in fbsd 5.x, I just > see "ufs" as the filesystem type. =A0How can I get some kind of output th= at > assures me that those volumes are indeed UFS2 volumes ? =A0How do I verify > that ?=20 # dumpfs /dev/ad*** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 08:18:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632D416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:18:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from daemon.sharmannetworks.com (LEF140024-2.gw.connect.com.au [210.8.129.97]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9F43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from mail.sharmannetworks.com (smtp-syd.sharmannetworks.com [192.168.1.11]) by daemon.sharmannetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EE12FDA01 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:28:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.147] ([192.168.1.147]) by mail.sharmannetworks.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:28:22 +1000 Message-ID: <40D24539.1080200@meijome.net> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:28:25 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en, es, es-ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <3.0.6.32.20040617093700.007b1a70@mail.uk2.net> <20040617085132.2ae49db5.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040617085132.2ae49db5.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2004 01:28:22.0955 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B9077B0:01C454D3] cc: Graham Bentley cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user questions :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:18:03 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > Graham Bentley wrote: > [...] >>I also wondered if there is a project based on FreeBSD that >>achieves similar goals to SME Server (ie all in one LAN server >>with Web config) or similar to Trustix (ie minimal config with >>series of scripts to configure server services. > > > Not that I know of, but it sure would be a nice project, huh? definitely a nice one. hmm...what would be the best way to go about it? - add an option to sysinstall "SME" (well, whatever that would be named of course) - add a port that 'depends' / installs all the other ports needed - with questions and answer to start setting up your system...or some kind of UI for it (ugh) - same as with ports, but prec-compiled packages. hmm...must download SME to test and see how they went about it. [...] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 08:25:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B6116A4D2 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:25:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337F543D5D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:25:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i5K8P7lM013023; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:25:07 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 890F652851; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 01:25:07 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Lukasz Koszanski Message-ID: <20040620082507.GA6612@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040620004317.28338.qmail@web20326.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040620004317.28338.qmail@web20326.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot compile jdk14 for Freebsd 5.2.1 - weired problem occures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:25:13 -0000 --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Lukasz Koszanski wrote: > make install > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for jdk-1.4.2p6_4 > =3D=3D=3D> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on executable: javavm - > found > =3D=3D=3D> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on file: > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/fonts.dir - found > This is basically what happens: >=20 > Please use `make -DWITH_DEBUG' if you want to install > libraries and binaries > with debugging support. >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if java/jdk14 already installed > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 > cd > /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/make/../build/bsd-i586/j2sdk-image > && /usr/bin/find . | -pdmu -R root:wheel > /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 > -pdmu: not found > *** Error code 127 Looks like you have some environment variable set (to a null value) that is being used by the port. Kris --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1UnjWry0BWjoQKURApeOAJ9JgJgz62IQnqea5DkndN/4iq6aHwCdHeNE EYwDfr6O0tA4nmzx1pGFtbI= =3vDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 09:55:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086B416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A2E43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5K9tFLb015373 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:55:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5K9tFIL015372; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:55:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:55:15 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Joe Schmoe Message-ID: <20040620095515.GB54590@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Joe Schmoe , questions@freebsd.org References: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:55:15 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UFS2 and ufs2 documentation ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:35 -0000 --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 04:29:05PM -0700, Joe Schmoe wrote: > Second, where can I find documentation on ufs2 and snapshotting, etc. ? = There is no 'ufs2' manpage, and the mksnap_ffs man page is about 20 lines l= ong ... where can I find more documentation ? Try: http://www.mckusick.com/FreeBSDbook.html Unfortunately, that book isn't available quite yet -- publication date is August 2004, so if you can wait for a month or so you should be gold. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1V8DiD657aJF7eIRAkb1AKC6Rtpjw2aQpy3SLXeIJv6zOdKp3gCdGuZs WCnYng9FqNXxRhGgy9IGxL8= =fIpp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 09:55:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC8316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0776F43D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ph.schulz@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 832 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Jun 2004 09:55:45 -0000 Received: from p5090CC38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gmx.de) (80.144.204.56) by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 11:55:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1954550 Message-ID: <40D55EFF.1070808@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:55:11 +0200 From: Phil Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040520 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Douglas Korinke References: <20040620013709.M54061@eagle.fgcu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040620013709.M54061@eagle.fgcu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Miscellaneous Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:55:55 -0000 >I have been attempting to get my pcmcia wireless card running on my laptop, I >have identified the driver to install (wi), but am quite clueless on how to >do so. > > > What exactly are you doing and what problems are you facing? When you insert the card, you should see some messages on the console. Maybe you want to post those messages and possible warnings/error messages you're seeing. Phil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 10:04:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450C116A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:04:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pantene.yandex.ru (pantene.yandex.ru [213.180.200.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC52043D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:04:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grint@yandex.ru) Received: from YAMAIL (pantene.yandex.ru) by mail.yandex.ru id ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:04:25 +0400 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:04:25 +0400 (MSD) From: "grint" Sender: grint@yandex.ru Message-Id: <40D56129.000002.02151@pantene.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] Errors-To: grint@yandex.ru To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-source-ip: 217.174.98.193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: linux-realplay and esd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: grint@yandex.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:04:46 -0000 Hello, I want use linux-realplay with esound, but when i try it i have some error. I search about it in google, and find that i must have libesd.so.0, but i have only libesd.so.2. I create symlink to libesd.so.0 from libesd.so.2. And now when i try use realplay i have coredump realplay. My system is 5.2.1-p8 I have on more questions: I want convert realplayer audio to mp3 and i'm interesting how can ido it(i try: "esd & esdmon | lame -h -x - test & realplay", but realplay doesnt work with esd :( ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 10:07:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB66F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D968843D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5KA6v71022213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:06:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5KA6vtN022212; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:06:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:06:57 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20040620100657.GC54590@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Kris Kennaway , Lukasz Koszanski , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040620004317.28338.qmail@web20326.mail.yahoo.com> <20040620082507.GA6612@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040620082507.GA6612@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:06:57 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: Lukasz Koszanski cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot compile jdk14 for Freebsd 5.2.1 - weired problem occures X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:27 -0000 --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 01:25:07AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 05:43:17PM -0700, Lukasz Koszanski wrote: > > make install > > =3D=3D=3D> Installing for jdk-1.4.2p6_4 > > =3D=3D=3D> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on executable: javavm - > > found > > =3D=3D=3D> jdk-1.4.2p6_4 depends on file: > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW/fonts.dir - found > > This is basically what happens: > >=20 > > Please use `make -DWITH_DEBUG' if you want to install > > libraries and binaries > > with debugging support. > >=20 > > =3D=3D=3D> Generating temporary packing list > > =3D=3D=3D> Checking if java/jdk14 already installed > > /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 > > cd > > /usr/ports/java/jdk14/work/control/make/../build/bsd-i586/j2sdk-image > > && /usr/bin/find . | -pdmu -R root:wheel > > /usr/local/jdk1.4.2 > > -pdmu: not found > > *** Error code 127 >=20 > Looks like you have some environment variable set (to a null value) > that is being used by the port. Usually caused by the contents of /usr/ports/Mk being out of synch with the rest of the ports tree. The ${CPIO} macro was added a while back now[1], and people are still being bitten by this. The OP. needs to do a cvsup preferably of the 'ports-all' collection, and without any ports related stuff in any refuse file. Use /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile like so: # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.XX.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports= -supfile where XX is an appropriate country code. Cheers, Matthew [1] Version 1.475 of bsd.port.mk, committed in January 2004, unfortunately fairly shortly after 5.2.1-Release. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFA1WHBiD657aJF7eIRArnUAJwIwCY3bOcMeokBIm4//tZb/CXm+gCYyCD2 t7CdRzS+31fO2vSWjfuR3g== =0puL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 10:07:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBFF16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A4743D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from barner@in.tum.de) Received: by zi025.glhnet.mhn.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11A403F3B; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:55:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:55:39 +0200 From: Simon Barner To: Bruce Message-ID: <20040620095539.GA4422@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> References: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.tu-muenchen.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cd burning and what app to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:07:39 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruce wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd > burning software is really good from the ports collection?=20 >=20 > I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's. >=20 > Or make data cd's. If you want something with gui, have a look at sysutils/xcdroast or sysutils/k3b. Both need atapicam (if you own an IDE burner), and the latter one is an KDE application, but it's really sophisticated. As soon as you have atapicam in your kernel, GNOME's nautilus offers the burn:/// location: Just drag and drop your stuff there, and click on the "Write to CD" button when you're done (needs sysutils/nautilus-cd-burner which should already be on your system). HTH, Simon --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1V8bCkn+/eutqCoRAp8OAKCtcmrlkGnEv6JjNpZQwifHVHcraQCg2biz jvpXUsgNV2EOTtvfidioOA0= =JcTp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 10:54:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB32316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:54:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp15.wxs.nl (smtp15.wxs.nl [195.121.6.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CD443D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:54:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp15.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00C3FSYDGM@smtp15.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:54:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: FreeBSD questions mailing list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: Subject: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:54:50 -0000 I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, it constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't installed on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is installed. According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install gFTP with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with gtk12 instead of gtk20? PS I'm running FreeBSD-i386 4.10-STABLE. Thanks in advance, Marco -- "The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling:" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:04:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFAC16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638D143D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.muenther@nruns.com) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bc07B-0007GR-00; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:03:57 +0200 Received: from [212.202.43.252] (helo=localghost.muenther.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bc07B-0006rW-00; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:03:57 +0200 Received: by localghost.muenther.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 96C3E21E8A0; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:04:25 +0200 From: Jan Muenther To: Marco Beishuizen Message-ID: <20040620110425.GA1199@localghost.muenther.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:9a8a46f2b40f7808f7699def63624ac2 cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:25 -0000 > I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, it > constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't installed > on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is installed. > > According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install gFTP > with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with gtk12 > instead of gtk20? Interesting, from how I interpret the Makefile, I'd think 1.2 would be the default... anyway try 'make -DWITH_GTK2=NO' and see if it works... Cheers, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:04:40 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3CC616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B8D43D55 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i5KB41co012993; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:04:02 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Marco Beishuizen Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:04:13 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406200404.13629.kstewart@owt.com> Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:04:40 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 03:54 am, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, > it constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't > installed on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is > installed. > > According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install > gFTP with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with > gtk12 instead of gtk20? > > PS I'm running FreeBSD-i386 4.10-STABLE. > Look at the Makefile. It defaults to gtk12 unless you have gtk2 defined some place such as /etc/make.conf. Kill the define and it should use 1.2. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:07:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C3B16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:07:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outmx005.isp.belgacom.be (outmx005.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.2.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A723743D45 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:07:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geert@lori.mine.nu) Received: from outmx005.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) with ESMTP id i5KB6v2r023691 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:06:57 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: from lori.mine.nu (65-23.244.81.adsl.skynet.be [81.244.23.65]) with ESMTP id i5KB6uT4023672; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:06:56 +0200 (envelope-from ) Received: by lori.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D898C471; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:06:54 +0200 From: Geert Hendrickx To: Marco Beishuizen Message-ID: <20040620110654.GA9552@lori.mine.nu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i X-GPG-Key: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~s005085/gnupgkey.txt X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/766C1E92 X-Accept-Language: nl,en cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:07:08 -0000 The Makefile in ports/ftp/gftp has the option WITH_GTK2, which should of course be unset if you want to compile with gtk12 (that seems to be the default). Maybe you have some saved options in /var/db/ports/gftp/ ? Then remove that file and try again. GH On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:54:13PM +0200, Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, it > constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't installed > on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is installed. > > According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install gFTP > with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with gtk12 > instead of gtk20? > > PS I'm running FreeBSD-i386 4.10-STABLE. > > Thanks in advance, > Marco > > -- > "The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, > it's just a tired feeling:" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- "Iedereen is van de wereld, de wereld is van iedereen." (The Scene) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:11:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B9A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8E343D58 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00LVETQRA5@smtp18.wxs.nl> for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:11:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:11:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <20040620110425.GA1199@localghost.muenther.de> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: Jan Muenther Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20040620110425.GA1199@localghost.muenther.de> cc: FreeBSD questions mailing list Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:18 -0000 On stardate Sun, 20 Jun 2004, the wise Jan Muenther entered: >> I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, it >> constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't installed >> on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is installed. >> >> According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install gFTP >> with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with gtk12 >> instead of gtk20? > > Interesting, from how I interpret the Makefile, I'd think 1.2 would be the > default... anyway try 'make -DWITH_GTK2=NO' and see if it works... Unfortunately, it still wants to build and install gtk20, which doesn't work. Marco -- The income tax has made more liars out of the American people than golf has. Even when you make a tax form out on the level, you don't know when it's through if you are a crook or a martyr. -- Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:11:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F71243D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-227-174.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.227.174]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A33252672; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:10:59 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: Tom McLaughlin In-Reply-To: <1087673619.834.53.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> References: <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> <1087673619.834.53.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087729772.2423.11.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:09:32 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Lloyd Hayes cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:11:33 -0000 On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 20:33, Tom McLaughlin wrote: > On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 14:23, Lloyd Hayes wrote: > > I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I > > got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting > > errors again.... > > > > So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews > > posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak > > documentation, too much information about things that they were not > > interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most > > common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've > > formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. > > FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for > > beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples > > that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There > > seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around. > > Of the free OSs I think the different BSDs tend to be the better > documented. Along with the man pages (don't short them, some can be > obtuse at times but overall they give me what I need most of the time), > this has served as my primary source of documentation for FreeBSD: > > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > > Book wise, there are more on Linux. This is starting to change though > which is great. I think what you are looking for isn't necessarilly a > FreeBSD specific book, though having at least one is great, but a > general unix primer to help you get more familiar with unix concepts. I > remember when I started toying around with linux and stared at the > command line not knowing what to do. I had "Running Linux" back then > which had a great intro to such things like file permissions, > users/groups, and navigating around the system. > > Since I really can't from looking at my bookshelf, can anyone recommend > a book with a few good chapters on general unix concepts to get a > completely green user familiar and comfortable with "the way things are > done"? Comming from $OTHER_OS to unix can be daunting but once you get > the basics down, you start to complain that $OTHER_OS is too hard to do > what you want. :) > > Tom > > > I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to > > learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent > > me. Thanks for all of the info. > ive also just started down the bsd route started on linux 2/3 years back then m$ was my desktop OS now thats been replaced by mandrake and bsd is my "play" OS i have to say its done me no end of good at work now been sent on aix courses in order to become a member of our risc team :) on a side not ive still have a small windows partition for running dvd2one dose any one know an equivalent in the *nix world arden > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:18:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBA116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:18:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp13.wxs.nl (smtp13.wxs.nl [195.121.6.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C551043D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:18:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp13.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00237U1RI6@smtp13.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:17:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:17:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <20040620110654.GA9552@lori.mine.nu> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: Geert Hendrickx Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <20040620110654.GA9552@lori.mine.nu> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:18:04 -0000 On stardate Sun, 20 Jun 2004, the wise Geert Hendrickx entered: > The Makefile in ports/ftp/gftp has the option WITH_GTK2, which should of > course be unset if you want to compile with gtk12 (that seems to be the > default). Maybe you have some saved options in /var/db/ports/gftp/ ? > Then remove that file and try again. Yes, that did the trick! Thanks, Marco -- A computer, to print out a fact, Will divide, multiply, and subtract. But this output can be No more than debris, If the input was short of exact. -- Gigo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:34:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D151916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BE843D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:34:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-227-174.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.227.174]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AB8254B6D; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:34:04 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: jqdkf@army.com In-Reply-To: <20040620042319.GA25895@cactus.homeunix.org> References: <1087701973.18848.2.camel@localhost> <20040620042319.GA25895@cactus.homeunix.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087731157.2423.13.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:32:37 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Cd burning and what app to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:34:25 -0000 On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 05:23, jqdkf@army.com wrote: > On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 11:26:13PM -0400, Bruce wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Currently, I am running Gnome 2.6 and I am just wondering what cd > > burning software is really good from the ports collection? > > > > I want to burn cd's from iso files or copy music cd's to cd's. > > > > Or make data cd's. > > burncd in the base system will do. k3b is cool if you like graphics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:36:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B818E16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:36:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B82143D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:36:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gerard-seibert@rcn.com) Received: from 207-237-110-41.c3-0.crm-ubr4.crm.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.237.110.41] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1Bc0cO-00009q-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:36:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:36:17 -0400 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: Gerard@FreeBSD.ORG, Seibert@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <20040620073250.AB77.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.10.02 [en] Subject: Which PGP version to use question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gerard-seibert@rcn.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:36:14 -0000 I am using PGP version 8.03 < http://www.pgp.com/ >on my WinXP machines. My data is uploaded to a keyserver. PGP Corporation does not, as far as I can determine, market a FreeBSD or Linux version of this software. My question would be what version of PGP available for FreeBSD would be most compatible with the version I have on my WinXP machines? Also, I would need the ability to upload to a keyserver. Thanks! Gerard Seibert gerard-seibert@rcn.com "Where in the nursery rhyme does it say Humpty Dumpty is an egg?" -- Anonymous From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:43:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0466216A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:43:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778AB43D53 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:43:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from llama.fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.124]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.comESMTP <20040620114300.JPQK19746.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@llama.fishballoon.org>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:43:00 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org ([192.168.1.6]) by llama.fishballoon.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bc0jS-000Nz9-9s; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:43:30 +0100 Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5KBhTlp009602; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:43:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:43:28 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Jason Oakley Message-ID: <20040620114328.GF462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <6.1.0.6.0.20040619191803.01dafa20@mail.bangrocks.com> <200406190745.29010.algould@datawok.com> <20040619153131.GA462@tuatara.fishballoon.org> <6.1.0.6.0.20040620124105.01c4e8a0@mail.bangrocks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.0.20040620124105.01c4e8a0@mail.bangrocks.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE i386 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a multicard reader (FBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:43:33 -0000 On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:45:57PM +1000, Jason Oakley wrote: > I set up automount, but that's not working. > > usb1: on uhci1 > usb1: USB revision 1.0 > uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > > > I also get this after a reboot now: > umass0: vendor 0x55aa 8-in-2, rev 1.10/1.01, addr 3 [...] That's weird. I assume from your other message that you did get all of the slots working by the magic of 'camcontrol rescan', but it all went horribly wrong when you tweaked usbd.conf or set up the automounter? Does everything still work if you undo whatever changes you did (keep a copy of the changed files though), reboot and try to mount the CF card again? If it does, could you put your changes back, reboot again and then post copies of your /var/log/dmesg.boot, /etc/rc.conf, /etc/usbd.conf and /etc/amd.map files? Output from 'usbdevs -v' and 'camcontrol devlist' might be useful too. Something I should have mentioned before - you probably want to do 'camcontrol eject 0:0:whatever' after unmounting a card, to power down the slot before pulling it out. There's a small chance of damaging the card if you don't do this. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:45:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F9D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:45:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AF243D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:45:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5KBimnP050045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:44:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5KBimPX050044; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:44:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:44:48 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20040620114448.GA49915@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Gerard Seibert , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040620073250.AB77.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040620073250.AB77.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:44:48 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Which PGP version to use question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:45:07 -0000 --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 07:36:17AM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am using PGP version 8.03 < http://www.pgp.com/ >on my WinXP machines. = My > data is uploaded to a keyserver. PGP Corporation does not, as far as I can > determine, market a FreeBSD or Linux version of this software. No -- but they do produce a freeware version you can compile from source on most Unixoid systems. =20 > My question would be what version of PGP available for FreeBSD would be m= ost > compatible with the version I have on my WinXP machines? Also, I would > need the ability to upload to a keyserver. Most people around here seem to be using gpg(1) -- that's from the security/gnupg port. It's a reimplementation of the PGP software under the terms of the GPL, since NAI and now PGP Corporation seemed to be heading towards a more restrictive licensing scheme on newer releases. As the file formats etc. for PGP are an open standard, you should be able to use any of the popular Unix implementations more or less interchangeably Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1XiwiD657aJF7eIRAtaFAJ4tk/u3jqmZw8ozdLoxQ5k4j4ditwCgiXaS F8gFlozFcclwkZ8GAKFbBqg= =cEm2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:52:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B717C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:52:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp18.wxs.nl (smtp18.wxs.nl [195.121.6.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6A643D31 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:52:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marco@beishuizen.info) Received: from tsunami.bsd (ipd50a233c.speed.planet.nl [213.10.35.60]) by smtp18.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZL00BXWVNBNJ@smtp18.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:52:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:52:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Marco Beishuizen In-reply-to: <200406200404.13629.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: marco@tsunami.bsd To: Kent Stewart Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT FreeBSD: Homepage: References: <200406200404.13629.kstewart@owt.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: installing gFTP with gtk12 instead of gtk20 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:52:32 -0000 On stardate Sun, 20 Jun 2004, the wise Kent Stewart entered: > On Sunday 20 June 2004 03:54 am, Marco Beishuizen wrote: >> I'm trying to install gFTP from the ports. When I do a make install, >> it constantly wants to install gtk20 instead of gtk12. Gtk20 isn't >> installed on my machine due to errors during the build, but gtk12 is >> installed. >> >> According to the gFTP website it shouldn't be a problem to install >> gFTP with gtk12, so how do I force the gFTP-port to install it with >> gtk12 instead of gtk20? >> >> PS I'm running FreeBSD-i386 4.10-STABLE. >> > > > Look at the Makefile. It defaults to gtk12 unless you have gtk2 defined > some place such as /etc/make.conf. Kill the define and it should use > 1.2. The solution was not the makefile but in the file /var/db/ports/gftp/options. I deleted it and after that it installed correctly. Thanks, Marco -- Real computer scientists only write specs for languages that might run on future hardware. Nobody trusts them to write specs for anything homo sapiens will ever be able to fit on a single planet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 11:53:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:53:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net (turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A9A43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:53:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tyson@stanfordalumni.org) Received: from pool-138-88-248-237.res.east.verizon.net ([138.88.248.237] helo=orange.home) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Bc0sY-0001JI-00; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:52:54 -0700 From: Don Tyson To: arden In-Reply-To: Message from arden of "Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:09:32 BST." <1087729772.2423.11.camel@localhost> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 07:52:52 -0400 Message-Id: cc: Tom McLaughlin cc: Lloyd Hayes cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:53:09 -0000 [snipped] > > Since I really can't from looking at my bookshelf, can anyone recommend > > a book with a few good chapters on general unix concepts to get a > > completely green user familiar and comfortable with "the way things are > > done"? Comming from $OTHER_OS to unix can be daunting but once you get General UNIX stuff: Visual Quickstart Guide [to] UNIX by Deborah & Eric Ray FreeBSD-specific stuff: Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD" Best all-around mini-nutshell introduction: Anneliese Anderson's "For People New to Both FreeBSD and UNIX, found in the doc section of the FreeBSD website. Don Tyson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 08:46:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28DD716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:46:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9D843D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:46:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from s_home_job_2004@mail.ru) Received: from [194.44.150.146] (port=1472 helo=AS-35-4B--34J) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1Bbxy1-000AVK-00 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:46:22 +0400 From: Alex X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:06:46 +0000 Subject: Win-modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?Windows-1251?B?wOvl6vHl6Q==?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:46:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:44:22 +0300 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:46:24 -0000 HI FreeBSD team! What about win modems?? where I can find drivers or kernel modules. Linux drivers doesn't work correctly. My modem-Lucent Win Modem (Genius GM56PCI-L), chipset-Lucent1646 Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 12:47:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3072216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BAF43D55 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:47:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.muenther@nruns.com) Received: from [212.227.126.207] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bc1ix-0005ib-00; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:47:03 +0200 Received: from [212.202.43.252] (helo=localghost.muenther.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1Bc1ix-0002sy-00; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:47:03 +0200 Received: by localghost.muenther.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F16A21E8A0; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:47:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:47:30 +0200 From: Jan Muenther To: Alex Message-ID: <20040620124730.GA1585@localghost.muenther.de> References: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:9a8a46f2b40f7808f7699def63624ac2 cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Win-modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:47:04 -0000 Ahoi, > What about win modems?? where I can find drivers or > kernel modules. Linux drivers doesn't work correctly. > My modem-Lucent Win Modem (Genius GM56PCI-L), chipset-Lucent1646 try this: Port: ltmdm-1.4_5 Path: /usr/ports/comms/ltmdm Info: Driver for the Lucent LT Winmodem chipset Cheers, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 12:59:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA36F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:59:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4C43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:59:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Mike.Jeays@rogers.com) Received: from [192.168.2.100] ([24.43.93.57]) by web01-imail.rogers.com ESMTP <20040619133937.DFNZ447020.web01-imail.rogers.com@[192.168.2.100]>; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:39:37 -0400 From: Mike Jeays To: stan In-Reply-To: <20040619131322.GA9782@teddy.fas.com> References: <20040619131322.GA9782@teddy.fas.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1087652471.15235.1.camel@chaucer> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 19 Jun 2004 09:41:11 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at web01-imail.rogers.com from [24.43.93.57] using ID at Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:39:37 -0400 cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: USB drive questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:59:07 -0000 On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 09:13, stan wrote: > I had a vendor give me a USB memory stick as a promotional giveaway > yesterday. Kind of amazing theat they have gotten cheap enough for this. > > In any case, I pluged it into my laptop with STABLE on it (cvsuped last > weekend). It recognized the device, and told me it was a generic USB > storage deviec. > > How can I mount this device? > > Also, when I unplug it I get a panic. I do have, what I think are, the > correct defines in my kernel config. > > What might I be doing wrong? As root, mkdir /flash mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /flash Or add the following line to /etc/fstab /dev/da0s1 /flash msdos rw,noauto 0 0 and then simply issue "mount /flash" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 13:24:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2508916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:24:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92.asp.att.net [204.127.203.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC54143D53 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:24:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from david.fleck@mchsi.com) Received: from grond (12-216-14-105.client.mchsi.com[12.216.14.105]) by sccmmhc92.asp.att.net (sccmmhc92) with SMTP id <20040620132415m9200gkgi0e>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:24:16 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 08:24:16 -0500 (CDT) From: David Fleck Sender: dcf@grond.sourballs.org To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: <20040514192819.C20346@wonkity.com> Message-ID: <20040620081624.E13853@grond.sourballs.org> References: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> <20040514192819.C20346@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blacklist(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:24:25 -0000 On Fri, 14 May 2004, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote: > > Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up > > sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least > > fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, > > can't find it? > > There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no > linewrap): > > dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?" $&{client_addr}') [...] Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc files: FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?" $&{client_addr}') FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from $&{client_addr} rejected - see http://njabl.org/lookup?$&{client_addr}') (and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do these work silently, or are they not working at all? -- David Fleck david.fleck@mchsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 13:53:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0F316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:53:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4145D43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:53:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i5KDqrWr051429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:52:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5KDqrqn051428; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:52:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:52:53 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: David Fleck Message-ID: <20040620135253.GA51201@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , David Fleck , Warren Block , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> <20040514192819.C20346@wonkity.com> <20040620081624.E13853@grond.sourballs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040620081624.E13853@grond.sourballs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:52:53 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blacklist(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:53:08 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 08:24:16AM -0500, David Fleck wrote: > On Fri, 14 May 2004, Warren Block wrote: > > On Fri, 14 May 2004, Gary Kline wrote: > > > Can anyone point me to the website that told how to set up > > > sendmail's FEATURE to use blacklists? There were at least > > > fourr blacklist sites. I've grep'd thru my ~/Mail directory, > > > can't find it? > > > > There should already be an example in /etc/mail/freebsd.mc (no > > linewrap): > > > > dnl FEATURE(dnsbl, `blackholes.mail-abuse.org', `"550 Mail from " $&{cl= ient_addr} " rejected, see http://mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/lookup?" $&{client= _addr}') > [...] >=20 > Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell > if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc > files: >=20 > FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " reje= cted, see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?" $&{client_addr}') > FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from $&{client_addr} rejected= - see http://njabl.org/lookup?$&{client_addr}') >=20 > (and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any > indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do > see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do > these work silently, or are they not working at all? You'll see messages being rejected in your maillog -- like this: Jun 20 12:41:17 happy-idiot-talk sm-mta[50011]: i5KBf8LW050011: ruleset= =3Dcheck_rcpt, arg1=3D, relay=3Dc-67-162-1= 53-95.client.comcast.net [67.162.153.95], reject=3D550 5.7.1 ... Mail from 67.162.153.95 rejected using spamcop.net D= NSBL. See http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=3Dcheckblock&ip=3D67.162.153.95 If you aren't seeing any rejects then either you haven't installed the modified sendmail.cf and restarted sendmail properly: # cd /etc/mail # make=20 # make install # make restart or you simply haven't had any spam from blacklisted addresses. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1Za1iD657aJF7eIRAlBZAJsEc9BnwsTtUV+YhX8Vuun6p+IVawCeLG/N wELamhMKotGI45gJn0sQ/zw= =Z81F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 14:07:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:07:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail02.infosat.net (mailout06.infosat.net [66.18.69.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12D43D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blygar1@webmail.co.za) Received: from [66.18.70.48] (HELO mail01.infosat.net) by mail02.infosat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 80929923 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:07:47 +0200 Received: from [196.31.69.30] (account blygar1@webmail.co.za) by mail01.infosat.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 344878562 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:07:46 +0200 From: "Gareth Bailey" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:07:46 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Mail problem - famd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:07:56 -0000 Hi all, I've recently converted our company server from 5.2 release to 4.10 stable. I'm in the process of ironing out last little issues i'm having. This problem has to do with my mail setup. I'm running postfix MTA and courier-imap server. My maillog file is filled with messages like the following: I'm not too sure where to start - i suspect that whatever is trying to create the cache file doesn't have the neccesary permissions. If so, what is the location of this cache file? Otherwise, any other suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks, Gareth _____________________________________________________________________ For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 15:02:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:02:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8627043D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:02:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (nat-server.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.245])i5KF22qN008907; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:02:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) From: Eric Crist Organization: Secure Computing Networks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gerard-seibert@rcn.com Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:00:10 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <20040620073250.AB77.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> In-Reply-To: <20040620073250.AB77.GERARD-SEIBERT@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_Haa1AsDvu5QOzHg"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406201000.23324.ecrist@secure-computing.net> Subject: Re: Which PGP version to use question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ecrist@secure-computing.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:02:19 -0000 --Boundary-02=_Haa1AsDvu5QOzHg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 20 June 2004 06:36, Gerard Seibert wrote: > I am using PGP version 8.03 < http://www.pgp.com/ >on my WinXP machines. = My > data is uploaded to a keyserver. PGP Corporation does not, as far as I can > determine, market a FreeBSD or Linux version of this software. > > My question would be what version of PGP available for FreeBSD would be > most compatible with the version I have on my WinXP machines? Also, I wou= ld > need the ability to upload to a keyserver. I would use gnupg. Well, actually, I do. Everything works great, and I ca= n=20 use the same keys on the windows version of pgp too. You should be able to= =20 install it from /usr/ports/security/gnupg, type make install clean once=20 you're in that director. HTH =2D-=20 Eric F Crist Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry, and the world WILL turn. --Boundary-02=_Haa1AsDvu5QOzHg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA1aaGMhDTiDKQCJwRAjimAKDGz7kRXTBLSYoPzUuht5yR5ChLGACeIcYD +5wtRMDuenz3LwOeTd7HCeU= =p2R7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_Haa1AsDvu5QOzHg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 15:40:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B57716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3FA43D46 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:40:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <200406201540240140024bq5e>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:40:29 +0000 Received: from gladiator.trini0.org (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.3]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBE16B for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:40:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Samuel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:40:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406201140.15088.fbsd-questions@trini0.org> Subject: atapi/cam driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:40:31 -0000 Im trying to set it up, and Im not getting any "real" output from camcontrol devlist. Im following instructions from http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html#ATAPICAM. dmesg only shows the devices as atapi devices, and not scsi. Does anyone have an idea where Im going wrong. Thanks -- camcontrol devlist -- gladiator# camcontrol devlist -v scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) -- -- OS version -- gladiator# uname -a FreeBSD gladiator.trini0.org 5.2.1-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Fri May 7 22:43:47 EDT 2004 xxx@gladiator.trini0.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GLADIATOR i386 -- -- dmesg snip -- ad0: 19473MB [39566/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 acd1: CDRW at ata1-slave PIO4 -- -- fstab snip -- /dev/cd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/cd1 /cdrom1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 -- -- kernel -- machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident GLADIATOR maxusers 0 #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" #Default places to look for devices. #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD #4BSD scheduler options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL #Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options NFSCLIENT #Network Filesystem Client options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS #Pseudo-filesystem framework options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 #Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device vga # VGA video card driver # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. device random # Entropy device device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da # Yes they are for SCSI but umass needs them device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) # To access IDE devices via scsi system device atapicam device cd device pass # Audio device pcm # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 15:41:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB56016A4CE; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:41:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D9743D46; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:41:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id i5KFfKa1055360; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:41:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:41:20 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Mikhail Teterin Message-ID: <20040620154120.GC5040@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200406200343.03920@aldan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406200343.03920@aldan> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:41:52 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 20), Mikhail Teterin said: > I expected the second way to be faster, as it is supposed to avoid > one memory copying (no user-space buffer). But in reality, on a > CPU-bound (rather than IO-bound) machine, using mmap() is > considerably slower. Here are the tcsh's time results: > > Single Pentium2-400MHz running 4.8-stable: > ------------------------------------------ > stdio: 56.837u 34.115s 2:06.61 71.8% 66+193k 11253+0io 3pf+0w > mmap: 72.463u 7.534s 2:34.62 51.7% 5+186k 105+0io 22328pf+0w > > Dual Pentium2 Xeon 450MHz running recent -current: > -------------------------------------------------- > stdio: 36.557u 29.395s 3:09.88 34.7% 10+165k 32646+0io 0pf+0w > mmap: 42.052u 7.545s 2:02.25 40.5% 10+169k 16+0io 15232pf+0w > > On the IO-bound machine, using mmap is only marginally faster: > > Single Pentium4M (Centrino 1GHz) runing recent -current: > -------------------------------------------------------- > stdio: 27.195u 8.280s 1:33.02 38.1% 10+169k 11221+0io 1pf+0w > mmap: 26.619u 3.004s 1:23.59 35.4% 10+169k 47+0io 19463pf+0w > > Notice the last two columns in time's output -- why is page-faulting a > page in -- on-demand -- so much slower then read()-ing it? I even tried > inserting ``madvise(buffer, file_size, MADV_SEQUENTIAL)'' between the > mmap() and the process() -- made difference at all (or made the mmap() > take slightly longer)... MADV_SEQUENTIAL just lets the system expire already-read blocks from its cache faster, so it won't help much here. read() should cause some prefetching to occur, but it obviously doesn't work all the time or else inblock wouldn't have been as high as 11000. For sequential access I would have expected read() to have been able to prefetch almost every block before the userland process needed it. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 15:54:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A85C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:54:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [65.173.111.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E3043D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:54:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5KFsIve013126; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:54:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) with ESMTP id i5KFsIUR013118; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:54:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:54:18 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: David Fleck In-Reply-To: <20040620081624.E13853@grond.sourballs.org> Message-ID: <20040620094347.R72669@wonkity.com> References: <20040515005503.GA9224@tao.thought.org> <20040514192819.C20346@wonkity.com> <20040620081624.E13853@grond.sourballs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:54:18 -0600 (MDT) cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blacklist(s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:54:20 -0000 On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, David Fleck wrote: > Sorry for this monumentally stupid-sounding question, but how do you tell > if the dnsbl feature is *working* or not? I've got 2 set in my local .mc > files: > > FEATURE(dnsbl, `bl.spamcop.net', `"550 Mail from " $&{client_addr} " rejected, see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?" $&{client_addr}') > FEATURE(dnsbl,`combined.njabl.org',`Message from $&{client_addr} rejected - see http://njabl.org/lookup?$&{client_addr}') > > (and yes, I did 'make cf install' afterwards), but I don't see any > indication of mail being rejected because of these in my maillog. I do > see mail being rejected because of settings in /etc/mail/access.db. Do > these work silently, or are they not working at all? After changing the .mc file, you have to restart sendmail: # cd /etc/mail # make all install restart DSNBL rejects look like the ones caused by entries in access.db, but with the message from the FEATURE line. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 16:04:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EAF16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:04:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail11.ispronet.com (mail11.ispronet.com [81.28.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993E543D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:04:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernard.dugas@is-production.com) Received: from is-production.com (unknown [194.38.164.75]) by mail11.ispronet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20AB55664; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:04:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D5B632.50604@is-production.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:07:14 +0200 From: Bernard Dugas Organization: IS Production User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; fr-FR; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <40CEB82C.7010903_is-production.com@ns.sol.net> <40CF95DA.2000104@lineone.net> <40D3F27E.9070200@is-production.com> <40D4404D.2020702@lineone.net> In-Reply-To: <40D4404D.2020702@lineone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: Robert Downes Subject: Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:04:14 -0000 Hi, Robert Downes a écrit : > Bernard Dugas wrote: >> Thanks very much, Robert, it was the udma option : but this is quite >> inefficient if I can't use UDMA with FreeBSD ? > > FreeBSD will drop down to PIO mode, probably mode 4. > > According to Scott Mueller's book, PIO mode 4 offers up to 16.67 MB/sec, > whereas UDMA can offer up to 100 or 133 MB/sec. So, yes, less efficient > (but also a bit quieter in my experience). And the cpu load should increase, no ? > Have you been able to switch the data cable for a know good cable? That > solved the problem for me. I've tried a brand new one, but no difference... Best regards, -- __________ Bernard DUGAS ________________________________________ | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:bernard.dugas@is-production.com | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_________________________________________________________________| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 16:05:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA0916A4E8 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:05:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (fuf.mingrone.org [204.251.2.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CF0A43D62 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: (qmail 21296 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2004 16:05:20 -0000 Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (204.251.2.34) by fuf.mingrone.org with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 16:05:20 -0000 From: Joey Mingrone To: "Julian M. Mason" Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:05:22 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040619013823.GA13721@turing.cs.hmc.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040619013823.GA13721@turing.cs.hmc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406201305.22971.joey@mingrone.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bittorrent not in ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:05:26 -0000 ..or see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=torrent&stype=all There are a few different options for torrent clients. On June 18, 2004 22:38, Julian M. Mason wrote: > ...is bittorrent really not in ports? > > my usual > # cd /usr/ports ; make search name="bittorrent" > and > # whereis bittorrent > > turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net. > > Do I have to actually go and get something myself? > > > --Mac From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 16:50:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0C616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:50:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail11.ispronet.com (mail11.ispronet.com [81.28.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509AF43D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:50:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernard.dugas@is-production.com) Received: from is-production.com (unknown [194.38.164.75]) by mail11.ispronet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC83354250; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:50:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D5C106.6060506@is-production.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:53:26 +0200 From: Bernard Dugas Organization: IS Production User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; fr-FR; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <40CEB82C.7010903_is-production.com@ns.sol.net> <40CF95DA.2000104@lineone.net> <40D3F27E.9070200@is-production.com> <40D42BDE.2050609@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <40D42BDE.2050609@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: Robert Downes cc: Phil Schulz Subject: Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:50:36 -0000 Hi, Phil Schulz a écrit : > I didn't see the beginning of the thread. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-questions/2004-June/049482.html But I had a similar problem on > my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had to > change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that wasn't > supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to > /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems until > I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons. > You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses. http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Pundit&langs=01 -> Chipset SIS 651/962 -> Lan Broadcom BCM4401 The freeBSD 4.10 ata0 seems not to work properly with the native udma 6 of the pundit. Forcing "dma disabled" in the bios for the disk prevents the "ad0 : read command timeout" "ata0 resetting devices" blocking. But no more DMA is not ideal for a server... I've tried a new ide cable, and a new drive, without effect. In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told the bfe should be in. Any hints ? Thanks a lot, best regards, -- __________ Bernard DUGAS ________________________________________ | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:bernard.dugas@is-production.com | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_________________________________________________________________| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 16:52:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC72516A4CF; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:52:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648F343D53; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:52:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5KGqIeM027990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:52:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5KGqHuu027988; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:52:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin To: Dan Nelson Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:52:14 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406200343.03920@aldan> <20040620154120.GC5040@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20040620154120.GC5040@dan.emsphone.com> X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:52:38 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:41 am, Dan Nelson wrote: = In the last episode (Jun 20), Mikhail Teterin said: = > I expected the second way to be faster, as it is supposed to avoid = > one memory copying (no user-space buffer). But in reality, on a = > CPU-bound (rather than IO-bound) machine, using mmap() is = > considerably slower. Here are the tcsh's time results: = MADV_SEQUENTIAL just lets the system expire already-read blocks from = its cache faster, so it won't help much here. That may be what it _does_, but from the manual page, one gets an impression, it should tell the VM, that once a page is requested (and had to be page-faulted in), the one after it will be requested soon and may as well be prefeteched (and the ones before can be dropped if memory is in short supply). Anyway, using MADV_SEQUENTIAL is consintently making mmap behave slightly worse, rather then have no effect. But let's not get distracted with madvise(). Why is mmap() slower? So much so, that the machine, which is CPU-bound using read() only uses 90% of the CPU when using mmap -- while, at the same time -- the disk bandwidth is also less than that of the read(). It looks to me, like a lot of thought went into optimizing read(), but much less into mmap, which is supposed to be faster -- less memory shuffling. Is that true, is there something inherent in mmap-style of reading, that I don't see? = read() should cause some prefetching to occur, but it obviously = doesn't work all the time or else inblock wouldn't have been as high = as 11000. For sequential access I would have expected read() to have = been able to prefetch almost every block before the userland process = needed it. Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 17:43:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A5816A4CF for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F43D43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:43:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ph.schulz@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 26533 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Jun 2004 17:43:33 -0000 Received: from p5090CC38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gmx.de) (80.144.204.56) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 19:43:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1954550 Message-ID: <40D5CCA5.7050701@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:43:01 +0200 From: Phil Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040520 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernard Dugas References: <40CEB82C.7010903_is-production.com@ns.sol.net> <40CF95DA.2000104@lineone.net> <40D3F27E.9070200@is-production.com> <40D42BDE.2050609@gmx.de> <40D5C106.6060506@is-production.com> In-Reply-To: <40D5C106.6060506@is-production.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060305070402090600020904" cc: Robert Downes cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:43:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060305070402090600020904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> my desktop machine using (I think) 4.9-Release. It started when I had >> to change the motherboard. The new one came w/ an SiS chipset that >> wasn't supported by FreeBSD. I solved the problem by adding a line to >> /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c. It worked for a few weeks w/o any problems >> until I switched to RELENG_5_2 for various other reasons. >> You might want to post what chipset your mainboard uses. > > > http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Pundit&langs=01 > -> Chipset SIS 651/962 > -> Lan Broadcom BCM4401 > Try to apply the attached patch to /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c Neither do I have a mainboard w/ the same chipset as yours nor do I have any PC running RELENG_4 atm. But I had to apply sth similar to make my SiS-746(?)-based mainboard work under RELENG_4. I'm not a developer so I don't know if it's a good and clean solution but it worked for me back then. > In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom > BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told > the bfe should be in. > From bfe(4): "The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1." --------------060305070402090600020904 Content-Type: text/plain; name="sis651.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="sis651.patch" --- ata-dma.c.old Sun Jun 20 19:30:10 2004 +++ ata-dma.c Sun Jun 20 19:23:41 2004 @@ -669,6 +669,7 @@ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06401039, 0) || /* SiS 640 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06451039, 0) || /* SiS 645 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06501039, 0) || /* SiS 650 */ + ata_find_dev(parent, 0x06511039, 0) || /* SiS 651 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07301039, 0) || /* SiS 730 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07331039, 0) || /* SiS 733 */ ata_find_dev(parent, 0x07351039, 0) || /* SiS 735 */ --------------060305070402090600020904-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 17:51:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2389D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:51:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (oldhallfarm.demon.co.uk [80.176.128.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D6543D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:51:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: from majic.fajita.org (majic.fajita.org [192.168.0.4]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KHpiY5069846 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:51:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by majic.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KHpi70069845 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:51:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:51:44 +0100 From: Lewis Thompson To: FreeBSD-questions Message-ID: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lewiz@fajita.org Subject: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:51:33 -0000 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm trying to create a port for a Python application that I want to start from local/etc/rc.d. The command is this: /usr/bin/su freevo -c "/usr/local/bin/freevo -fs start" > /dev/null 2>&1 Unfortunately when I boot up I get a message about Python not being configured/available at this time. I'm at work at the moment and I can't get the message but I wanted to ask now in the hopes that somebody would have come across this before. If not I'll send another mail with the full message when I can. Does anybody know how to fix this? Thanks, -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:purple@lewiz.net | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1c6wItq0KFQv7T8RAq4/AKD5fmA7CcZeJI86liFERtlfPuTeUgCguTgV W2AoQWfQSsm0OCVDkfLRDto= =PJ6+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 18:35:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A5F16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [150.104.224.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6E843D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dbkorink@eagle.fgcu.edu) Received: from eagle.fgcu.edu (eagle.fgcu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by eagle.fgcu.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id i5KIdhmG001784 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:39:43 GMT From: "Douglas Korinke" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:39:43 -0500 Message-Id: <20040620183506.M8827@eagle.fgcu.edu> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.30 20040103 X-OriginatingIP: unknown (dbkorink) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Subject: Fresh Installing FreeBSD 5.0 Release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:04 -0000 I was currently getting help from a person for getting my wireless pc card working on my laptop when we both came to the conclusion that my kernel source had either not been installed, or was hiding very well. I wasn't able to get a hold of the original install cd so I used a 5.0 release from a family members collection. I attempted to remove 4.9 and cleanly install 5.0 onto the laptop but ran into some interesting errors and it has put me in quite a bind. The drive for which I'm wanting to install FreeBSD on has been whipped clean but the 5.0 install cd hangs up when loading device drivers for the kernel. At the moment I'm stuck on what to do myself, if there is a way to get the drive formatted so that I can try a clean install of 5.0 that would be great, but if not, 4.9 installed very cleanly. Thanks, Doug ICQ : 26096369 AIM : itss0lidstate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 18:35:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D1616A4CF; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4404943D2F; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5KIZBx7026533; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5KIZBeJ026532; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200406201835.i5KIZBeJ026532@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200406200343.03920@aldan> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:35:19 -0000 :Hello! : :I'm writing a message-digest utility, which operates on file and :can use either stdio: : : while (not eof) { : char buffer[BUFSIZE]; : size = read(.... buffer ...); : process(buffer, size); : } : :or mmap: : : buffer = mmap(... file_size, PROT_READ ...); : process(buffer, file_size); : :I expected the second way to be faster, as it is supposed to avoid :one memory copying (no user-space buffer). But in reality, on a :CPU-bound (rather than IO-bound) machine, using mmap() is considerably :slower. Here are the tcsh's time results: read() is likely going to be faster because it does not involve any page fault overhead. The VM system only faults 16 or so pages ahead which is only 64KB, so the fault overhead is very high for the data rate. Why does the extra copy not matter? Well, it's fairly simple, actually. It's because your buffer is smaller then the L1 cache, and/or also simply because the VM fault overhead is higher then it would take to copy an extra 64KB. read() loops typically use buffer sizes in the 8K-46K range. L1 caches are typically 16K (for celeron class cpus) through 64K, or more for higher end cpus. L2 caches are typically 256K-1MB, or more. The copy bandwidth from or to the L1 cache is usually around 10x faster then main memory and the copy bandwidth from or two L2 cache is usually around 4x faster. (Note that I'm talking copy bandwidth here, not random access. The L1 cache is ~50x faster or more for random access). So the cost of the extra copy in a read() loop using a reasonable buffer size (~8K-64K) (L1 or L2 access) is virtually nil compared to the cost of accessing the kernel's buffer cache (which involves main memory accesses for files > L2 cache). :On the IO-bound machine, using mmap is only marginally faster: : : Single Pentium4M (Centrino 1GHz) runing recent -current: : -------------------------------------------------------- :stdio: 27.195u 8.280s 1:33.02 38.1% 10+169k 11221+0io 1pf+0w :mmap: 26.619u 3.004s 1:23.59 35.4% 10+169k 47+0io 19463pf+0w Yes, because it's I/O bound. As long as the kernel queues some readahead to the device it can burn those cpu cycles on whatever it wants without really effecting the transfer rate. :I this how things are supposed to be, or will mmap() become more :efficient eventually? Thanks! : : -mi It's hard to say. mmap() could certainly be made more efficient, e.g. by faulting in more pages at a time to reduce the actual fault rate. But it's fairly difficult to beat a read copy into a small buffer. -Matt Matthew Dillon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 18:48:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D4216A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:48:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E13443D31 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:48:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbentley@uk2.net) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=plus) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1Bc7N3-0000BP-Q9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:48:49 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040620194842.007b72a0@mail.uk2.net> X-Preferences: Plain Text/No HTML X-Mailer: Interstat v2.0.9 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:48:42 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Graham Bentley Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: MySQL Advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:48:57 -0000 Hi All Can any MySQL gurus out there point me in the direction of enlightenment. Just installed MySQL for a Wiki DB and get the following when trying to add the root password as instructed by the installer. freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe & [1] 684 freebsd# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/db/mysql freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root password mypassword freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h freebsd.mydomain.com password mypassword /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'freebsd.mydomain.com' failed error: 'Host 'freebsd.mydomain.com' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server' freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysql --password Enter password: ******* Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 8 to server version: 4.1.0-alpha Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer. mysql> status -------------- /usr/local/bin/mysql Ver 13.5 Distrib 4.1.0-alpha, for portbld-freebsd5.2 (i386) Connection id: 8 Current database: Current user: root@localhos SSL: Not in use Current pager: more Using outfile: '' Server version: 4.1.0-alpha Protocol version: 10 Connection: Localhost via UNIX socket Client characterset: latin1_swedish_ci Server characterset: latin1_swedish_ci UNIX socket: /tmp/mysql.sock Uptime: 13 min 35 sec Threads: 1 Questions: 5 Slow queries: 0 Opens: 7 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 1 Queries per second avg: 0.006 -------------- I am wondering if this is anything to do with my network setup as I had exactly the same thing on a Linux box a few weeks ago and drove myself mad trying to resolve it. Now its cropped upa gain under 5.2.1 - it cant be a coincidence . . . can it ? I have googled about and tried out most of the recommended solutions to no avail Started with adding mysqld:127.0.0.1 to hosts which didnt work (I couldnt tell you why I should do this being a noob - just following advice to get me up and running:) Thanks in advance for any advice ! Graham ps I installed this with pkg_add -r mysql-server which seemed to go to the 'latest' directory on the end of a long FreeBSD ftp server dir structure. I just know I am going to get flamed for this :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:02:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1036C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:02:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out010.verizon.net (out010pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A410A43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:02:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.84.3]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040620190208.EGRM15848.out010.verizon.net@[192.168.1.3]>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:02:08 -0500 Message-ID: <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:01:54 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lewis Thompson References: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> In-Reply-To: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:02:08 -0500 cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:02:10 -0000 Lewis Thompson wrote: > I'm trying to create a port for a Python application that I want to > start from local/etc/rc.d. The command is this: > > /usr/bin/su freevo -c "/usr/local/bin/freevo -fs start" > /dev/null 2>&1 > > Unfortunately when I boot up I get a message about Python not being > configured/available at this time. Does the script set $PATH to include the location where python is? If you don't list /usr/local/bin explicitly, this may be the problem... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:06:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542DD16A4D3 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:06:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD9D43D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:06:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@trini0.org) Received: from hivemind.trini0.org (trini0.org[65.34.205.195]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2004062019061401100r7jeee>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:06:14 +0000 Received: from gladiator.trini0.org (gladiator.trini0.org [192.168.0.3]) by hivemind.trini0.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363EC16B; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:06:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gerard Samuel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:06:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <3.0.6.32.20040620194842.007b72a0@mail.uk2.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20040620194842.007b72a0@mail.uk2.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406201506.13973.fbsd-questions@trini0.org> cc: Graham Bentley Subject: Re: MySQL Advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:06:15 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 02:48 pm, Graham Bentley wrote: > freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h freebsd.mydomain.com password > mypassword > > /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'freebsd.mydomain.com' > failed error: 'Host 'freebsd.mydomain.com' is not allowed to connect to > this MySQL server' > > freebsd# /usr/local/bin/mysql --password Im assuming you're talking about the error when trying to connect via mysqladmin. Have you tried taking out the host option like -> /usr/local/bin/mysqladmin -u root password mypassword Just a guess From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:13:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3DE16A4D0 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:13:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (oldhallfarm.demon.co.uk [80.176.128.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CB443D48 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:13:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: from majic.fajita.org (majic.fajita.org [192.168.0.4]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KJE1Y5071026; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:14:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by majic.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KJE0mC071025; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:14:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:14:00 +0100 From: Lewis Thompson To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> References: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lewiz@fajita.org cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:13:55 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:01:54PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Lewis Thompson wrote: > >I'm trying to create a port for a Python application that I want to > >start from local/etc/rc.d. The command is this: > > > >/usr/bin/su freevo -c "/usr/local/bin/freevo -fs start" > /dev/null 2>&1 > > > > Unfortunately when I boot up I get a message about Python not being > >configured/available at this time. >=20 > Does the script set $PATH to include the location where python is? If yo= u=20 > don't list /usr/local/bin explicitly, this may be the problem... No, PATH doesn't get set but if I run it as /usr/local/bin/freevo.sh start =66rom a login shell (i.e. after the system has booted) it works fine. I might be getting confused but I think this indicates the script is good and it's a start-up problem. Is this just wrong? Thanks for your reply, -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:purple@lewiz.net | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1eH4Itq0KFQv7T8RAlugAKD8WUD0Gz8h6+3TW5pFz6ONP12fpACfYPH+ EUIOn2CsOQ8sxVbX/w5t7Ts= =gqMO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:25:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4D716A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:25:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm43.prodigy.net (ylpvm43-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DAD43D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-35.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.35])i5KJPLlM000656; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:25:22 -0400 Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E151852851; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:25:21 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Alex Message-ID: <20040620192521.GA20788@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Win-modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:25:23 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:44:22AM +0300, Alex wrote: > [...] You're living in the past, man! Kris --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1eShWry0BWjoQKURAqnNAJ9Jy11cXoEQCha24hXSXycbllyTuwCfcfpG Oi8RVjyQuRlaMBOC/W0S7uI= =JV6j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:30:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA70416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:30:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (smtp-out2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F4A43D58 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:30:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eyesonly@xs4all.nl) Received: from alden-0b614aab4 (revelation.xs4all.nl [194.109.220.1]) by smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KJUIO5074827 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:30:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:30:31 +0200 From: eyesonly@xs4all.nl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:30:20 -0000 Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard= disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left me with= no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the ports= and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best= divide the available space? thanks Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:42:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:42:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7521D43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:42:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i5KJg8Z04353; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:42:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200406201942.i5KJg8Z04353@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: eyesonly@xs4all.nl Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:41:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> from "eyesonly@xs4all.nl" at Jun 20, 2004 09:30:31 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:42:12 -0000 > > Hi > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard > disk. > According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. > However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left me > with no space in /usr > I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the ports > and linux compatibility prompts. > > Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I > best divide the available space? With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so and the rest in /. I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, but would have little room for doing anything. Good luck, ////jerry > > thanks > Mark > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:48:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2154816A4CE; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:48:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from argent.heraldsnet.org (argent.heraldsnet.org [64.83.41.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B1043D49; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:48:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jtrigg@spamcop.net) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (gules.heraldsnet.org [192.168.1.3]) by argent.heraldsnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E210D; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:50:20 -0400 From: Jim Trigg To: Dan Langille , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <2147483647.1087746620@[192.168.1.3]> In-Reply-To: <20040620071002.22815AE064@nezlok.unixathome.org> References: <20040620071002.22815AE064@nezlok.unixathome.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-05-30 - 2004-06-19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:48:16 -0000 --On Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:10 AM -0700 Dan Langille wrote: > These are the articles posted during this period: > > 15-Jun : IBM ThinkPad T41 > Installing and configuring FreeBSD and XFree86 > http://freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php?2 'Tain't there, McGee... Jim Trigg -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O- /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Hostmaster, Huie Kin family website X HELP CURE HTML MAIL Verger, All Saints Church - Sharon Chapel / \ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 19:56:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015516A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEB143D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.84.3]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040620195658.OEXE9273.out002.verizon.net@[192.168.1.3]>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <40D5EBFB.5020106@mac.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:56:43 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lewis Thompson References: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> In-Reply-To: <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Sun, 20 Jun 2004 14:56:57 -0500 cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:56:59 -0000 Lewis Thompson wrote: [ ... ] >>Does the script set $PATH to include the location where python is? If you >>don't list /usr/local/bin explicitly, this may be the problem... > > No, PATH doesn't get set but if I run it as /usr/local/bin/freevo.sh start > from a login shell (i.e. after the system has booted) it works fine. I > might be getting confused but I think this indicates the script is good > and it's a start-up problem. Is this just wrong? No, you should not assume that running the command from an interactive shell is the same environment that a RC startup script or a cron job runs under. Adding an "echo $PATH" somewhere would probably give you more information, but without a more specific error message, I'll repeat my guess. [ Without seeing the exact error message, asking us what's really going on involves jedi mind tricks! :-) ] -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:03:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D24416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 200-101-077-139.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-101-077-139.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.101.77.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F9743D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from renato_fbsd@optrade.com.br) Received: from dell (unknown [192.168.10.149])ESMTP id 33ABA33C2A; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:01:10 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <00b901c45701$6e896b60$950aa8c0@dell> From: "Renato Marques" To: References: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:01:53 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:16 -0000 Hi, Try this configuration / 128MB swap 32MB /var 32MB /tmp 32MB /usr the rest of the disk... I think tou will be albe to run the X too.... Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard disk. According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left me with no space in /usr I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the ports and linux compatibility prompts. Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I best divide the available space? thanks Mark _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:03:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6888416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3707843D48 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1178C69A3F; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:03:34 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Lewis Thompson Message-Id: <20040620160334.3daf002a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> References: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:03:47 -0000 Lewis Thompson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:01:54PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Lewis Thompson wrote: > > >I'm trying to create a port for a Python application that I want to > > >start from local/etc/rc.d. The command is this: > > > > > >/usr/bin/su freevo -c "/usr/local/bin/freevo -fs start" > /dev/null 2>&1 > > > > > > Unfortunately when I boot up I get a message about Python not being > > >configured/available at this time. > > > > Does the script set $PATH to include the location where python is? If you > > don't list /usr/local/bin explicitly, this may be the problem... > > No, PATH doesn't get set but if I run it as /usr/local/bin/freevo.sh start > from a login shell (i.e. after the system has booted) it works fine. I > might be getting confused but I think this indicates the script is good > and it's a start-up problem. Is this just wrong? I don't have much Python-fu, but is sure sounds like the script is failing becuase something it's dependent on hasn't started yet. Check to see what other scripts are in /usr/local/etc/rc.d (I'm guessing that's how you're firing it up on startup) and see if Python has some sort of startup script in there. If so, make sure your script executes afterwards (they're run alphabetically). If that doesn't help, you'll probably have to gather more details. The other suggestions about PATH and other environment are valid concerns as well. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:10:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E74316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out006.verizon.net (out006pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFABB43D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:10:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([68.161.84.3]) by out006.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040620200959.MOXS3317.out006.verizon.net@[192.168.1.3]>; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:09:59 -0500 Message-ID: <40D5EF09.4020209@mac.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:09:45 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex References: <394779873.20010620114422@mail.ru> <20040620192521.GA20788@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20040620192521.GA20788@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out006.verizon.net from [68.161.84.3] at Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:09:59 -0500 cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Win-modems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:10:01 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:44:22AM +0300, Alex wrote: ^^^^ >>[...] > > You're living in the past, man! Heh! Amusing turn of phrase, this. -- -Chuck PS: In case the phrase he used doesn't translate, out of pity for interpreting foreign languages, Alex, please reset the date on your computer. Every once in a while, Kris takes the domain name in that email address of his a little too literally, resulting in obscure responses. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:23:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC22616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:23:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ALPHA9.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha9.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69F043D45 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:23:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bawig1@student.monash.edu) Received: from localhost ([130.194.13.82]) by vaxh.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-31 #39306) with ESMTP id <01LBESVGR4PI8X701I@vaxh.its.monash.edu.au> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:49:39 +1000 Received: from larry.its.monash.edu.au (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5444980033 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:49:39 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail2.monash.edu.aularry.its.monash.edu.au ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:49:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:49:39 +1000 From: Brett Wiggins To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Subject: kdm and startkde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:23:50 -0000 hello, I am having some problems with startkde and kdm. When I run startkde i get the following outpit; xset: unable to open dispaly "" xsetroot: unable to open display '' startkde: starting up... ksplash cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory ksmserver : cannot connect to X server startkde: shutting down Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory Error : Can't contact kdeinit! startkde: Running shutdown scripts startkde: done When I run startx kde runs fine. When I edit /etc/ttys to enable a graphical login, kdm runs but nothing happens when I log in. The login screen is just reloaded. Any help would be great. Brett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:39:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F2116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:39:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail11.ispronet.com (mail11.ispronet.com [81.28.195.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDEB43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:39:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bernard.dugas@is-production.com) Received: from is-production.com (unknown [194.38.164.75]) by mail11.ispronet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A59E5F8E9; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:39:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D5F6AD.6020101@is-production.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:42:21 +0200 From: Bernard Dugas Organization: IS Production User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; fr-FR; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <40CEB82C.7010903_is-production.com@ns.sol.net> <40CF95DA.2000104@lineone.net> <40D3F27E.9070200@is-production.com> <40D42BDE.2050609@gmx.de> <40D5C106.6060506@is-production.com> <40D5CCA5.7050701@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <40D5CCA5.7050701@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: Robert Downes cc: Phil Schulz Subject: Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:39:25 -0000 Phil Schulz a écrit : >> http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=Pundit&langs=01 >> -> Chipset SIS 651/962 >> -> Lan Broadcom BCM4401 >> > Try to apply the attached patch to /sys/dev/ata/ata-dma.c > Neither do I have a mainboard w/ the same chipset as yours nor do I have > any PC running RELENG_4 atm. But I had to apply sth similar to make my > SiS-746(?)-based mainboard work under RELENG_4. I'm not a developer so I > don't know if it's a good and clean solution but it worked for me back > then. Thanks a lot, the content of this patch seems well targeted. The problem is I'm not a system developper either, and I only had the iso images for installation, so I will have to find a way to apply the patch. >> In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom >> BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told >> the bfe should be in. >> > From bfe(4): "The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1." Yes, but in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/errata.html : "(27 May 2004) The bfe(4) driver for Broadcom BCM4401 based Fast Ethernet adapters has been added but the release notes did not mention that." I've reported a bug on that problems : http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=68149 Thanks a lot, -- __________ Bernard DUGAS ________________________________________ | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:bernard.dugas@is-production.com | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_________________________________________________________________| From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:45:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EFE16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp16.wxs.nl (smtp16.wxs.nl [195.121.6.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C5843D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp16.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZM009IIKBPNM@smtp16.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KKjOCT001648; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:24 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KKjOme001647; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:24 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:24 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200406201942.i5KJg8Z04353@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: Jerry McAllister Message-id: <20040620204524.GA907@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> <200406201942.i5KJg8Z04353@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: eyesonly@xs4all.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:56 -0000 On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:41:53PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard > > disk. > > According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. > > However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left me > > with no space in /usr > > I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the ports > > and linux compatibility prompts. > > > > Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I > > best divide the available space? > > With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all > just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not > even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than > that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so > and the rest in /. > > I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB > being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, > but would have little room for doing anything. That is realy a bad idee. / is supposted to be small to limit the change that something irriversible happens to it during a crash /tmp can be mounted so that it gets a real power boost There are many other reason why not to do this. I can't think of them this quickly. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:45:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD416A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.kahovka.net (mail.kahovka.net [193.0.247.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AC443D54 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from abellist@land.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])D165C54B6 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:45:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail.kahovka.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kahovka.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 79834-06 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:45:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [193.0.247.116])907B554B5 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:45:23 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:21:54 +0300 From: Alex X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) Personal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <366991413.20040620132154@land.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kahovka.net Subject: How to start httpd and mysql automatic with FreeBSD start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:45:59 -0000 Hello to all, Plese say me how to correctly start httpd and mysqld with system sturtup... Where i need register it? (maybe in rc.conf or inet.d ?) And what i need to write in that file? Thanks! -- Best regards, Alexandr mailto:abellist@land.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:46:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC5416A4E5 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:46:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3743D39 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:46:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.110]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CFA811B; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:46:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D5F779.2060205@wcborstel.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:45:45 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Wiggins References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kdm and startkde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:46:02 -0000 Brett Wiggins wrote: >hello, > I am having some problems with startkde and kdm. When I run >startkde i get the following outpit; > > xset: unable to open dispaly "" > xsetroot: unable to open display '' > startkde: starting up... > ksplash cannot connect to X server > kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set > Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory > ksmserver : cannot connect to X server > startkde: shutting down > Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory > Error : Can't contact kdeinit! > startkde: Running shutdown scripts > startkde: done > >When I run startx kde runs fine. > > I thinks it's because startx launches X before it starts startkde, and startkde only attempts to launch KDE, which isn't going to work if there is no X server running. > > When I edit /etc/ttys to enable a graphical login, kdm runs but >nothing happens when I log in. The login screen is just reloaded. Any >help would be great. > > > What about XDM? Is that working? Is your /var/log/XFree86 giving you any useful output? (connection refused or something?) Cheers, Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:53:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E931A16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:53:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3ECD43D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:53:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.110]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2653A811B; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:53:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D5F929.9040504@wcborstel.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:52:57 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex References: <366991413.20040620132154@land.ru> In-Reply-To: <366991413.20040620132154@land.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to start httpd and mysql automatic with FreeBSD start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:53:01 -0000 Alex wrote: >Hello to all, > >Plese say me how to correctly start httpd and mysqld with system >sturtup... Where i need register it? (maybe in rc.conf or inet.d ?) >And what i need to write in that file? >Thanks! > > > If you have an init script installed in /usr/local/etc/rc.d, it should be starting automatically. If you builded Apache from MySQL from the ports tree, it should have installed an init script already. You can try using rc.conf as well, but I'm not sure if that'll work or not: httpd_enable="YES" mysqld_enable="YES" Do note that I've builded MySQL from the ports tree, and I didn't have to add these lines to the rc.conf file because there were init scripts located at /usr/local/etc/rc.d Cheers, Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 20:56:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364DD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:56:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E9E43D1D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:56:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZM0018IKTJJE@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:56:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KKuRCT001693; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:56:27 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KKuRdU001692; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:56:27 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:56:27 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <40D28248.3060704@users.sourceforge.net> To: Rob Message-id: <20040620205627.GB907@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <40D28248.3060704@users.sourceforge.net> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5-Current: problems with many ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:56:29 -0000 On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 02:48:56PM +0900, Rob wrote: > > Hi, > > After I purchased a brandnew harddisk, I decided to also try out 5-current > as the new OS on this disk. > > Installing system went all fine and smooth (5.2.1 install, then cvsupped to > current), and compiled/installed new world and kernel. > > However, since I am now installing many apps from the ports, I encounter > problem after problem, ports installs ending with errors; such as > configure runs that fail (e.g. libexif), ld complaining about libXpm.so.4 > related things (teTeX/LyX). > > So far I failed to install gimp and teTeX, which would make that PC rather > useless to me. Time to step back to 4.X? > > Are the ports not ready with 5-Current kernel? > Or am I doing something wrong? Dear Rob, The ports collection you fetched is being worked on all the time. This can mean that some doesn't work from time to time. By the way: running 5 current is very new and thus very risky, are you sure you woudn't rather follow RELENG_5_2? You may find at sometime that cvsup and a build world that you system is broken. This can happen in 5-current but is less liky in releng 5.2. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:08:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40BD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:08:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp14.wxs.nl (smtp14.wxs.nl [195.121.6.28]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A1D43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:08:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp14.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZM00I01LE4Z1@smtp14.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:08:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KL8SCT001756; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:08:28 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KL8RZj001755; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:08:27 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:08:27 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <200406171652.24886.ecrist@secure-computing.net> To: Eric Crist Message-id: <20040620210827.GC907@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <200406161814.49129.ecrist@secure-computing.net> <200406171652.24886.ecrist@secure-computing.net> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: Nagilum cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading openssh X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:08:37 -0000 On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 04:52:24PM -0500, Eric Crist wrote: > On Thursday 17 June 2004 10:41, Nagilum wrote: > > Hi Eric, > > > > The base version of openssh is updated frequently (especially if any > > vulnerabilities are discovered), so why bother with the port? > > > > Kind regards, > > Alex. > > > > Eric Crist wrote: > > >After figuring out perl (with the help of Matthew, I was wondering what > > > the proper way to install/upgrade openssh. I assume it's to install from > > > ports, and somehow disable the installed, system version. > > > > > >What's the proper method? > > Someone pointed out I was using an outdated version. I just did a complete > system upgrade the other day, so I assumed ports was the only way to go (I > mean, look at the perl installation...) You could also update /usr/src/ and do a make world. You won't get the most recent version but one that will do nicly and you don't have to wurry about how to go about. An outdated version isn't bad per say. For stability a outdated version is usaly better. For security a recent version is better. All that matter is that there are no security risk. And as stated by Nagilum, when there's a security risk then its alway updated and else it may take some time. -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:16:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83CD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zinc.org.uk (zinc.org.uk [193.201.200.225]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B9043D62 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:16:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from alison@zinc.org.uk) Received: from zinc.org.uk ([193.201.200.225] ident=www) by zinc.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1Bc9fm-000BFt-UA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:16:19 +0100 Received: from spr1-watf4-4-0-cust162.lond.broadband.ntl.com ([81.100.118.162]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user alison); by zinc.org.uk with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:16:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <1854.81.100.118.162.1087766178.squirrel@81.100.118.162> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:16:18 +0100 (BST) From: "Alison Lloyd" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal SPF-Comment: zinc.org.uk: 193.201.200.225 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zinc.org.uk Received-SPF: none (zinc.org.uk: 193.201.200.225 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of zinc.org.uk) client-ip=193.201.200.225; envelope-from=alison@zinc.org.uk; helo=zinc.org.uk; Subject: wierd router crashes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:16:20 -0000 Hiya I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box set up as a router between my cable internet connection and my home LAN. I'm using a Compaq Professional Workstation 5000 (yes, the Pentium Pro thingy), which I've installed an extra NIC into. The output from uname -a is: FreeBSD gorgonzola 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #1: Thu May 20 23:35:28 BST 2004 root@gorgonzola:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GORGONZOLA i386 I'm using 4.9 because 5.2.1 refuses to find any harddrives (IDE or SCSI), incidently. I've recompiled the original kernel to include ipfw support. My firewall ruleset is: add 10000 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tl0 add 60000 allow ip from any to any add 11010 allow tcp from any to any established add 11100 deny log tcp from any to tl0 where tl0 is the external interface and rl0 is the internal one. I've got everything up and running, got the external interface registered with my ISP, and can connect to the internet fine (http, ftp, ports all work). I've set the box up to DHCP for its external IP (which it does fine), and to use 192.168.1.1 for the internal one. The problems come in when I try to use a machine on the internal LAN - the router locks solid - no response to anything at all. It passes a few packets to start with, but then dies. After reboot, there are no suspicious entries in the logs, at least none that I can find. So long as I don't do anything on the internal LAN, everything runs perfectly! I've tried disabling all extraneous things (sendmail, etc.), to no avail. I'm not sure what to try next, as I'm fairly new to FreeBSD and firewalls / routers in general. Heeeeeeeelp! Alison From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:22:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2959E16A50D for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:22:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FF8643D46 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:22:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ph.schulz@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 1508 invoked by uid 65534); 20 Jun 2004 21:22:34 -0000 Received: from p5090CC38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO gmx.de) (80.144.204.56) by mail.gmx.net (mp013) with SMTP; 20 Jun 2004 23:22:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1954550 Message-ID: <40D5FFF9.6030203@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:22:01 +0200 From: Phil Schulz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040520 X-Accept-Language: de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernard Dugas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40CEB82C.7010903_is-production.com@ns.sol.net> <40CF95DA.2000104@lineone.net> <40D3F27E.9070200@is-production.com> <40D42BDE.2050609@gmx.de> <40D5C106.6060506@is-production.com> <40D5CCA5.7050701@gmx.de> <40D5F6AD.6020101@is-production.com> In-Reply-To: <40D5F6AD.6020101@is-production.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Any 4.10 installation on asus pundit ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:22:37 -0000 > > The problem is I'm not a system developper either, and I only had the > iso images for installation, so I will have to find a way to apply the > patch. > You'll need the kernel sources installed. Then apply the patch and then re-compile the kernel. Basically you just need to add on line of code in the right place. If you have got the sources from CD and not updated them you will not need to rebuild the userland. Check the handbook for details (chapter 9). >>> In addition, I can't find the bfe0 network driver for the Broadcom >>> BCM4401 in the kernel configuration, but the 4.10 release notes told >>> the bfe should be in. >>> >> From bfe(4): "The bfe device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 5.1." > > Actually I forgot that 5.1 was released before 4.10 - my mistake. Indeed the driver seems to have been ported back to the 4-Stable branch. > Yes, but in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/errata.html : > > "(27 May 2004) The bfe(4) driver for Broadcom BCM4401 based Fast > Ethernet adapters has been added but the release notes did not mention > that." > I think you just need to add a line that reads device bfe to your kernel config file and the rebuild the kernel. Phil. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:26:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C2916A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:26:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp19.wxs.nl (smtp19.wxs.nl [195.121.6.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2300D43D41 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:26:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl) Received: from kruij557.speed.planet.nl (ipd50a97ba.speed.planet.nl [213.10.151.186]) by smtp19.wxs.nl (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZM00AF9M71VW@smtp19.wxs.nl> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:25:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alex.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kruij557.speed.planet.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KLQ9CT001842; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:26:09 +0200 Received: (from akruijff@localhost) by alex.lan (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KLQ9Lh001841; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:26:09 +0200 Content-return: prohibited Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:26:09 +0200 From: Alex de Kruijff In-reply-to: <40CF953A.9030304@lineone.net> To: Robert Downes Message-id: <20040620212609.GD907@alex.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i References: <40CF953A.9030304@lineone.net> X-Authentication-warning: alex.lan: akruijff set sender to freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl using -f cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Firewall rules X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:26:11 -0000 On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 01:32:58AM +0100, Robert Downes wrote: > JJB wrote: > > >Fundamentally his keep-state rules work and yours don't. > > > I have used his script exactly, modifying only for the differences in my > ISP's addresses. Everything works as before, and still the check-state > rule is showing zero packets and zero bytes, even though keep-state > rules have been triggered. Are you sure this is not just a quirk of IPFW? > > > The use of > >the skipto rule to control what ip address goes into the dynamic > >keep-state table, IE the lan ip or the natd public ip. The bottom > >line is native ipfw with natd and stateful rules does not work > >together at all, unless you do some gymnastics with skipto rule so > >the dynamic keep-state table always has the private lan ip address > >for matching against. > > > Yes, this is the mechanism I cannot find a clear explanation for. Can > you recommend a link to a page that defines how IPFW stumbles on NAT and > keep-state, because I've read and re-read the IPFW man page, and it does > me no good whatsoever. NAT and keep-state doesn't go to getter because NAT changes the ip address and this cause ipfw not to recornise the rules. The trick is to allow changed traffic afther its bin passed though natd. # There's no need passing these though natd 20510 check-state 20520 skipto 20600 ip from not 192.168.31.0/24 to any out 20520 skipto 20600 ip from any to not 213.10.151.186 in # Passing packets that could change though natd 20530 divert 8668 ip from any to any # Allowing changed traffic. 20550 allow ip from 213.10.151.186 to any out 20550 allow ip from any to not 213.10.151.186 in # keep-state rules here ... > > Second problem is you are > >allowing every thing out your firewall. This is very bad as it > >allows out any trojons or spy-ware from windows boxs on your lan so > >thet can report their harvested info to the person who planted them. > >Take control of your firewall and only allow out the exact services > >you know you are using. > > > No arguments there. I'm running ZoneAlarm on all Windows boxes, but it's > still better to aim for traffic to be killed on sight by the router. In this case you should write something lile: 20550 allow ip from 213.10.151.186 80 to any out 20550 allow ip from any 80 to not 213.10.151.186 in -- Alex Articles based on solutions that I use: http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:47:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2539616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:47:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655D243D45 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:47:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.110]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AADF809D; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:47:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D605FA.5030903@wcborstel.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:47:38 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alison Lloyd References: <1854.81.100.118.162.1087766178.squirrel@81.100.118.162> In-Reply-To: <1854.81.100.118.162.1087766178.squirrel@81.100.118.162> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wierd router crashes... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:47:42 -0000 Alison Lloyd wrote: >Hiya > >I'm trying to get a FreeBSD box set up as a router between my cable >internet connection and my home LAN. I'm using a Compaq Professional >Workstation 5000 (yes, the Pentium Pro thingy), which I've installed an >extra NIC into. The output from uname -a is: > >FreeBSD gorgonzola 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #1: Thu May 20 23:35:28 >BST 2004 root@gorgonzola:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GORGONZOLA i386 > >I'm using 4.9 because 5.2.1 refuses to find any harddrives (IDE or SCSI), >incidently. I've recompiled the original kernel to include ipfw support. >My firewall ruleset is: > >add 10000 divert 8668 ip from any to any via tl0 >add 60000 allow ip from any to any >add 11010 allow tcp from any to any established >add 11100 deny log tcp from any to tl0 > >where tl0 is the external interface and rl0 is the internal one. I've got >everything up and running, got the external interface registered with my >ISP, and can connect to the internet fine (http, ftp, ports all work). >I've set the box up to DHCP for its external IP (which it does fine), and >to use 192.168.1.1 for the internal one. > >The problems come in when I try to use a machine on the internal LAN - the >router locks solid - no response to anything at all. It passes a few >packets to start with, but then dies. After reboot, there are no >suspicious entries in the logs, at least none that I can find. So long as >I don't do anything on the internal LAN, everything runs perfectly! > >I've tried disabling all extraneous things (sendmail, etc.), to no avail. >I'm not sure what to try next, as I'm fairly new to FreeBSD and firewalls >/ routers in general. > >Heeeeeeeelp! > Alison > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >. > > > What are you using to let your internal LAN connect to the outside world? Are you using a proxy server or natd or something else? If you're using natd, do make sure that you're routing it to the right NIC (Your external NIC to your ISP should be in the natd_interface section at /etc/rc.conf) If that's not the case, I can't really think of something else. You're saying that 5.2.1 is not able to locate your harddrive at all? And you just have a simple ATA controller with nothing else? It should be working just fine then. Perhaps that your installation media was bad or there is a hardware problem with your machine. I never seen 5.2.1 not being able to detect a proper working IDE drive. Cheers, Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 21:49:01 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B030316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:49:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from danu.intersiege.com (dsl092-163-205.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.163.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B57B43D49 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:49:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reed@intersiege.com) Received: from [192.168.2.147] (unknown [192.168.2.147]) by danu.intersiege.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C7B11480; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40D60631.2030705@intersiege.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:48:33 -0400 From: "Reed L. O'Brien" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Schmoe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040619232905.26257.qmail@web53307.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: UFS2 and ufs2 documentation ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:49:01 -0000 Mr. Schmoe I am sure I sent this but never saw it post to the list; so I try again. http://sixshooter.v6.thrupoint.net/jeroen/faq.html cheers, reed Joe Schmoe wrote: >Quick question - when I run `mount` or view /etc/fstab in fbsd 5.x, I just see "ufs" as the filesystem type. How can I get some kind of output that assures me that those volumes are indeed UFS2 volumes ? How do I verify that ? > >Second, where can I find documentation on ufs2 and snapshotting, etc. ? There is no 'ufs2' manpage, and the mksnap_ffs man page is about 20 lines long ... where can I find more documentation ? > >thanks. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 22:14:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB3C16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:14:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F7643D41 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:14:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1BcAa8-0004eK-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:14:32 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16598.3143.768397.119576@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:14:31 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> References: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:14:33 -0000 eyesonly@xs4all.nl writes: > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 > MB hard disk. > According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. > However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left > me with no space in /usr > I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the > ports and linux compatibility prompts. First, a question: what do you want this machine to do? 852 MB should be enough. Go with a "Custom" installation, and you'll need to be utterly ruthless about not installing unneeded distribution sets. Once you're up and running: a) compile a custom kernel, and b) change the settings on newsyslog so you don't keep excess files laying around. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 22:52:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A7F16A4CE; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B0A43D39; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:52:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5KMqB8m029175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:52:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5KMqArv029174; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:52:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin To: Matthew Dillon Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:52:08 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <200406200343.03920@aldan> <200406201835.i5KIZBeJ026532@apollo.backplane.com> In-Reply-To: <200406201835.i5KIZBeJ026532@apollo.backplane.com> X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:52:18 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 02:35 pm, you wrote: = = :I this how things are supposed to be, or will mmap() become more = :efficient eventually? Thanks! = : = : -mi = It's hard to say. mmap() could certainly be made more efficient, e.g. = by faulting in more pages at a time to reduce the actual fault rate. = But it's fairly difficult to beat a read copy into a small buffer. Well, that's the thing -- by mmap-ing the whole file at once (and by madvise-ing with MADV_SEQUENTIONAL), I thought, I told, the kernel everything it needed to know to make the best decision. Why can't page-faulting code do a better job using all this knowledge, than the poor read, which only knows about the partial read in question? I find it so disappointing, that it can, probably, be considered a bug. I'll try this code on Linux and Solaris. If mmap is better there (as it really ought to be), we have a problem, IMHO. Thanks! -mi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 22:54:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F01616A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:54:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (oldhallfarm.demon.co.uk [80.176.128.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5F043D2F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:54:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: from majic.fajita.org (majic.fajita.org [192.168.0.4]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5KMsTY5073923; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:54:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz@fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by majic.fajita.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5KMsTUg073922; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:54:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:54:29 +0100 From: Lewis Thompson To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20040620225429.GA73586@fajita.org> References: <20040620175144.GA68736@fajita.org> <40D5DF22.5020609@mac.com> <20040620191400.GA70741@fajita.org> <40D5EBFB.5020106@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40D5EBFB.5020106@mac.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: lewiz@fajita.org cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Python application in rc.d. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:54:21 -0000 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:56:43PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Lewis Thompson wrote: > [ ... ] > >>Does the script set $PATH to include the location where python is? If= =20 > >>you don't list /usr/local/bin explicitly, this may be the problem... > > > >No, PATH doesn't get set but if I run it as /usr/local/bin/freevo.sh sta= rt > >from a login shell (i.e. after the system has booted) it works fine. I > >might be getting confused but I think this indicates the script is good > >and it's a start-up problem. Is this just wrong? >=20 > No, you should not assume that running the command from an interactive=20 > shell is the same environment that a RC startup script or a cron job runs= =20 > under. You were correct! I've added PATH=3D${PATH}:%%PREFIX%%/bin to the sample file (where %%PREIFX%% obviously gets mangled). It works great now. I must admit I can see a situation where somebody might install my port in a weird PREFIX and then it still won't find python (if it's installed in the default, /usr/local) -- but I really can't see any way to handle that nicely. Thanks for the help, I'm hopefully going to submit this port soon -- I've only been working on it a few months! -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:purple@lewiz.net | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1hWkItq0KFQv7T8RAnW5AKCB1UpOCwZofZ3Pxk+G7zXj6K8QyACgkiHK 3t7+XgU2dGTTd7fWjmjlSKI= =XNXt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 23:01:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DFD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:01:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D588143D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A7A3D34; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:01:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Langille" To: Jim Trigg Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:01:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <40D5DEF8.12996.8C819549@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <2147483647.1087746620@[192.168.1.3]> References: <20040620071002.22815AE064@nezlok.unixathome.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-05-30 - 2004-06-19 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:01:15 -0000 On 20 Jun 2004 at 15:50, Jim Trigg wrote: > --On Sunday, June 20, 2004 12:10 AM -0700 Dan Langille > wrote: > > > These are the articles posted during this period: > > > > 15-Jun : IBM ThinkPad T41 > > Installing and configuring FreeBSD and XFree86 > > http://freebsddiary.org/ibm-thinkpad-t41.php?2 > > 'Tain't there, McGee... And it's just as well too. That article is not completed. I've repaired the script so that this error does not occur again. Thanks. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 23:23:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B2D16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:23:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53306.mail.yahoo.com (web53306.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.39.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1FAC43D55 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:23:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from canonical_fred@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040620232322.1336.qmail@web53306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.93.39.147] by web53306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:23:22 PDT Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:23:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Polsky To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: natd translating ip and udp packets but not tcp.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:23:23 -0000 Greetings and salutations; I am having a puzzling issue with natd under FreeBSD 5.2, in which it will translate icmp and udp packets just fine, but tcp connections from the inside network to the outside world cannot be established. I can lookup hostnames, ping etc. from the internal client box, but cannot establish a connection to any tcp-based service. Consider my configuration, with addresses changed to implicate the guilty: Gateway internal interface: xl1 Gateway internal ip: 192.168.0.1/24 Client internal ip: 192.168.0.2 Gateway external interface: xl0 Gateway external ip: 131.107.3.124 Proper kernel options in place. ipfw configuration (more or less): 050 divert 8668 ip from any to any via xl0 100 allow ip from any to any natd running properly against xl0 I can provide more detailed information (tcpdumps, etc) if requested. Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 23:46:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ABE16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:46:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72FC43D1F for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:46:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (nat-server.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.245])i5KNkLk4010050; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:46:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) From: Eric Crist Organization: Secure Computing Networks To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:44:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <366991413.20040620132154@land.ru> In-Reply-To: <366991413.20040620132154@land.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_qFi1Anwg8T/9/+3"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406201844.42716.ecrist@secure-computing.net> Subject: Re: How to start httpd and mysql automatic with FreeBSD start? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ecrist@secure-computing.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 23:46:44 -0000 --Boundary-02=_qFi1Anwg8T/9/+3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 20 June 2004 05:21, Alex wrote: > Hello to all, > > Plese say me how to correctly start httpd and mysqld with system > sturtup... Where i need register it? (maybe in rc.conf or inet.d ?) > And what i need to write in that file? > Thanks! You didn't mention what version of FreeBSD you're using. That makes a big= =20 difference. =2D-=20 Eric F Crist Keep your pecker hard and your powder dry, and the world WILL turn. --Boundary-02=_qFi1Anwg8T/9/+3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA1iFqMhDTiDKQCJwRAqg/AJwOR9HN0ZHxbgvEU/Bi8/hWdCBUUwCgl9uL BNucT5hG19FArk82W+vaGE8= =T49F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_qFi1Anwg8T/9/+3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 00:13:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C996D16A4CE; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD8043D5A; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:13:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5L0CJx7031534; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id i5L0CJd6031533; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:12:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200406210012.i5L0CJd6031533@apollo.backplane.com> To: Mikhail Teterin References: <200406200343.03920@aldan> <200406201835.i5KIZBeJ026532@apollo.backplane.com> <200406201852.08030@aldan> cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:13:03 -0000 Hmm. Well, you can try calling madvise(... MADV_WILLNEED), that's what it is for. It is usually a bad idea to try to populate the page table with all resident pages associated with the a memory mapping, because mmap() is often used to map huge files... hundreds of megabytes or even dozens of gigabytes (on 64 bit architectures). The last thing you want to do is to populate the page table for the entire file. It might work for your particular program, but it is a bad idea for the OS to assume that for every mmap(). What it comes down to, really, is whether you feel you actually need the additional performance, because it kinda sounds to me that whatever processing you are doing to the data is either going to be I/O bound, or it isn't going to run long enough for the additional overhead to matter verses the processing overhead of the program itself. If you are really worried you could pre-fault the mmap before you do any processing at all and measure the time it takes to pre-fault the pages vs the time it takes to process the memory image. (You pre-fault simply by accessing one byte of data in each page across the mmap(), before you begin any processing). -Matt Matthew Dillon := It's hard to say. mmap() could certainly be made more efficient, e.g. := by faulting in more pages at a time to reduce the actual fault rate. := But it's fairly difficult to beat a read copy into a small buffer. : :Well, that's the thing -- by mmap-ing the whole file at once (and by :madvise-ing with MADV_SEQUENTIONAL), I thought, I told, the kernel :everything it needed to know to make the best decision. Why can't :page-faulting code do a better job using all this knowledge, than the :poor read, which only knows about the partial read in question? : :I find it so disappointing, that it can, probably, be considered a bug. :I'll try this code on Linux and Solaris. If mmap is better there (as it :really ought to be), we have a problem, IMHO. Thanks! : : -mi : From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 00:18:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F29416A4CE; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:18:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C80043D5C; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:18:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from interjet.elischer.org ([24.7.73.28]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004062100165601400211soe>; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:16:57 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26821; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:16:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Matthew Dillon In-Reply-To: <200406210012.i5L0CJd6031533@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:18:12 -0000 On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Hmm. Well, you can try calling madvise(... MADV_WILLNEED), that's what > it is for. > > It is usually a bad idea to try to populate the page table with all > resident pages associated with the a memory mapping, because mmap() > is often used to map huge files... hundreds of megabytes or even > dozens of gigabytes (on 64 bit architectures). The last thing you want > to do is to populate the page table for the entire file. It might > work for your particular program, but it is a bad idea for the OS to > assume that for every mmap(). > > What it comes down to, really, is whether you feel you actually need the > additional performance, because it kinda sounds to me that whatever > processing you are doing to the data is either going to be I/O bound, > or it isn't going to run long enough for the additional overhead to matter > verses the processing overhead of the program itself. > > If you are really worried you could pre-fault the mmap before you do > any processing at all and measure the time it takes to pre-fault the > pages vs the time it takes to process the memory image. (You pre-fault > simply by accessing one byte of data in each page across the mmap(), > before you begin any processing). pre-faulting is best done by a worker thread or child process, or it will just slow you down.. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > > := It's hard to say. mmap() could certainly be made more efficient, e.g. > := by faulting in more pages at a time to reduce the actual fault rate. > := But it's fairly difficult to beat a read copy into a small buffer. > : > :Well, that's the thing -- by mmap-ing the whole file at once (and by > :madvise-ing with MADV_SEQUENTIONAL), I thought, I told, the kernel > :everything it needed to know to make the best decision. Why can't > :page-faulting code do a better job using all this knowledge, than the > :poor read, which only knows about the partial read in question? > : > :I find it so disappointing, that it can, probably, be considered a bug. > :I'll try this code on Linux and Solaris. If mmap is better there (as it > :really ought to be), we have a problem, IMHO. Thanks! > : > : -mi > : > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 01:13:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:13:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D900A43D46 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:13:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from aharrison@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so203283rni for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.207.45 with SMTP id e45mr14171rng; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 18:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 21:13:18 -0400 From: Andy Harrison To: David Snyder In-Reply-To: <48A58E28-C265-11D8-958A-000A95A8519A@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <48A58E28-C265-11D8-958A-000A95A8519A@comcast.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 & OpenLDAP21-server won't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:13:23 -0000 On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:55:27 -0400, David Snyder wrote: > > I installed a minimal FreeBSD 5.2.1 > > Then installed Openldap21-server from ports with > # make install clean > > Then installed a script > cp /usr/ports/net/openldap21-server /usr/local/etc/rc.d/slapd.sh > > configured slapd.conf & ldap.conf > > manually started ldap with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start > > and everything worked but the script won't work. > > So then i viewed teh script and added the three lines to /etc/rc.d that > was stated in the script. I rebooted and still ldap didn't start on > boot but i can do it manually with /usr/local/libexec/slapd start > > Whats the deal? WHat am I doing wrong? > > -Dave > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > What errors appeared in the logs? -- Andy Harrison From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 01:37:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5376216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:37:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (computerking.ca [209.115.173.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3A643D5F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:37:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from luck@computerking.ca) Received: from computerking.ca (v22001.computerking.ca [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24FF221 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40D63BBC.6070108@computerking.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:37:00 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SICK SERVER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:37:07 -0000 I use freebsd 4.8 stable as a server it runs many services or used to, Apache, bincimap, postfix, just to name a few. It seems to run natd and route packets ok to the internal network that it is attached too. However I does not seem to be functioning properly as a web server or email server. Mostly what i use this machine for is a backup nameserver and email server but none of these services are functioning correctly. I can still login using my ssh2 program but cannot figure out what is going on please can someone help me troubleshoot this machine. My main concern is that my main mail server went down for about 3 days so the broken server hopefully picked up the mail but does not seem to be able to relay it back to my main server. I am using postfix 2.0.0.19 and have my postfix system secured with TLS and SASL. here is some log from postfix and a postconf -n output rig_to=, relay=none, delay=316608, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 2B41A10390: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=316598, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 2F2E810391: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=316598, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 1F72A10342: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=57410, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 06F8910346: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=311601, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 0AA07103A2: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=92298, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) v21.highcoup.ca > /etc #postconf -n alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 default_privs = nobody home_mailbox = Maildir/INBOX/ html_directory = no inet_interfaces = all local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps unix:passwd.byname mail_owner = postfix mail_spool_directory = /var/mail mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mydomain = highcoup.ca myhostname = mail1.highcoup.ca mynetworks_style = subnet myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no relay_domains = $mydestination, computerking.ca, shoemasters.computerking.ca sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_tls_loglevel = 3 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_loglevel = 2 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = no tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 01:55:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1623D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:55:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.computerking.ca (computerking.ca [209.115.173.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B2543D46 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:55:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rmvg@computerking.ca) Received: from computerking.ca (v22001.computerking.ca [192.168.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.computerking.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD68228 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:55:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <40D6400E.8060805@computerking.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:55:27 -0600 From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: SICK SERVER X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:55:26 -0000 I use freebsd 4.8 stable as a server it runs many services or used to, Apache, bincimap, postfix, just to name a few. It seems to run natd and route packets ok to the internal network that it is attached too. However I does not seem to be functioning properly as a web server or email server. Mostly what i use this machine for is a backup nameserver and email server but none of these services are functioning correctly. I can still login using my ssh2 program but cannot figure out what is going on please can someone help me troubleshoot this machine. My main concern is that my main mail server went down for about 3 days so the broken server hopefully picked up the mail but does not seem to be able to relay it back to my main server. I am using postfix 2.0.0.19 and have my postfix system secured with TLS and SASL. here is some log from postfix and a postconf -n output rig_to=, relay=none, delay=316608, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 2B41A10390: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=316598, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 2F2E810391: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=316598, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 1F72A10342: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=57410, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 06F8910346: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=311601, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) Jun 20 19:04:13 v21 postfix/qmgr[1092]: 0AA07103A2: to=, orig_to=, relay=none, delay=92298, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail1.shoemasters.computerking.ca[68.144.231.38]: Operation timed out) v21.highcoup.ca > /etc #postconf -n alias_maps = hash:/etc/mail/aliases broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes command_directory = /usr/local/sbin config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix debug_peer_level = 2 default_privs = nobody home_mailbox = Maildir/INBOX/ html_directory = no inet_interfaces = all local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps unix:passwd.byname mail_owner = postfix mail_spool_directory = /var/mail mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq manpage_directory = /usr/local/man mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain mydomain = highcoup.ca myhostname = mail1.highcoup.ca mynetworks_style = subnet myorigin = $mydomain newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix readme_directory = no relay_domains = $mydestination, computerking.ca, shoemasters.computerking.ca sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail setgid_group = maildrop smtp_tls_loglevel = 3 smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes smtp_use_tls = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $mydomain smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mx_backup, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination smtpd_tls_CAfile = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = yes smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes smtpd_tls_cert_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_key_file = /usr/local/etc/postfix/smtpd.pem smtpd_tls_loglevel = 2 smtpd_tls_received_header = yes smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s smtpd_use_tls = yes soft_bounce = no tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 02:54:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F0B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:54:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1C543D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:54:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tscheng@ic.sunysb.edu) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ool-18b9101b.dyn.optonline.net [24.185.16.27]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0HZN00MRY1FDI9@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: tscheng@ic.sunysb.edu X-X-Sender: tfcheng@192.168.0.13 To: freebsd-questions Message-id: <20040620225206.C95494@192.168.0.13> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: cannot compile 2 ports on FBSD4.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:54:58 -0000 Hi folks, have a few problems about 2 ports, one is editor/AbiWord2, the other is security/nss, I compiled them from ports on FBSD4.8 and I got: --for aibword--- ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp: In method `int IE_Imp_MsWord_97::_beginPara(_wvParseStruct *, unsigned int, void *, int)': ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2507: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2511: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2513: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2523: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2524: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2627: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2631: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2637: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2637: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2654: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2684: `struct _PAP' has no member named `linfo' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp: In method `int IE_Imp_MsWord_97::_beginChar(_wvParseStruct *, unsigned int, void *, int)': ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2946: `struct _CHP' has no member named `stylename' ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp: In method `void IE_Imp_MsWord_97::_handleNotes(const _wvParseStruct *)': ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:4609: implicit declaration of function `int wvGetPLCF(...)' gmake[4]: *** [ie_imp_MsWord_97.o] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/editors/AbiWord2/work/abiword-2.0.7/abi/src/wp/impexp/xp' ---nss---- ../../../../dist/FreeBSD4.8_OPT.OBJ/lib/libnss3.so: undefined reference to `PR_CallOnceWithArg' ../../../../dist/FreeBSD4.8_OPT.OBJ/lib/libsoftokn3.so: undefined reference to `PR_GetLibraryFilePathname' gmake[2]: *** [FreeBSD4.8_OPT.OBJ/atob] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/security/nss/work/nss-3.9/mozilla/security/nss/cmd/atob' any idea? Eureka! 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All rights reserved. ----------MailBlocks_8C48AED7B53B000_CEC_1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 03:50:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A8116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:50:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web50306.mail.yahoo.com (web50306.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6BE043D45 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040621035017.18399.qmail@web50306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.116.93.134] by web50306.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:50:17 CDT Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:50:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Jorge=20Mario=20G.?=" To: eyesonly@xs4all.nl In-Reply-To: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:50:18 -0000 --- eyesonly@xs4all.nl escribió: > > Hi > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older > computer with a 852 MB hard disk. > According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for > text mode only. > However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" > distributions left me with no space in /usr > I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and > said "No" to the ports and linux compatibility > prompts. Hi there for such small disk I'll go for a / partition only that way you can avoid complications in the "near" future Jorge _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 06:17:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C1516A4CE; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:17:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from inetmg01.sony.com.sg (inetmg01.sony.com.sg [202.42.154.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4EF43D5A; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:17:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ravi.nanjundappa@ap.sony.com) Received: from avgw02b.sony.com.sg ([43.68.8.23]) by inetmg01.sony.com.sg (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.6) with SMTP id i5L6LuI21009; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:21:56 +0800 (SGT) Received: from unknown(43.68.8.1) by avgw02b.sony.com.sg via csmap id 3f2c7d88_c34b_11d8_917b_0002b3cb4edc_5743; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:21:35 +0800 (SGT) Received: from sapsgssdibh01.ap.sony.com (bh01.ap.sony.com [43.68.15.23]) by seagw01.sony.com.sg (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i5L6ATE22532; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:10:29 +0800 (SGT) Received: from sapinsardexc01.sard.in.sony.com.sg (SAPINSARDEXC01 [43.88.102.8]) by sapsgssdibh01.ap.sony.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id NCPDJ0XH; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:17:20 +0800 Received: from [43.88.102.67] (43.88.102.67 [43.88.102.67]) by sapinsardexc01.sard.in.sony.com.sg with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id 262KATXP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:58:55 +0530 From: ravi To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Sony - SARD Message-Id: <1087798978.3674.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-4) Date: 21 Jun 2004 11:52:58 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Regarding FreeBSD proc entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:17:32 -0000 Hi, Is it possible to create a new proc entry under /proc ? If yes, then how to do that ? Please tell me the relevant documents for this . -- Regards, N Ravi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 06:48:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B2C16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:48:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D960943D41 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:48:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com) (wyoming?antelope@204.95.13.58 with plain) by smtp011.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 06:47:50 -0000 Message-ID: <40D68487.6010305@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:47:35 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j.e.drews@att.net, FreeBSD Org References: <062020040130.7425.40D4E8A30001617300001D0121612436469C990A9D0BD20AD206@att.net> In-Reply-To: <062020040130.7425.40D4E8A30001617300001D0121612436469C990A9D0BD20AD206@att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:48:11 -0000 In reading the reviews, the book/CD set got the most praise. However, from the reviews, it sounds like it needs to be updated. Lloyd Hayes Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ j.e.drews@att.net wrote: >Hi Lloyd: > > I heartily recommend "FreeBSD: An Open-Source OS for your PC". by Annelise Anderson >http://www.bsdmall.com/freebosforyo.html >This is the book for absolute beginners. If you think a port is a place where ships >dock and bash is a goth discoteque dance, then this is the book you should be reading. > >The next great resource are the tutorials by Dru Lavigne: >FreeBSD Basics >http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15 >Whether judged by pedagogic, technical or literary standards, Dru's articles are >works of high perfection. > >Finally, I recommend getting Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD". The book is a >great resource for technical details about FreeBSD 5.X. I found the sections on TCP/IP >and the etc file system to be very helpfully. > > HTH > Jonathan > > > > > >>I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I >>got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting >>errors again.... >> >>So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the reviews >>posted there about the books, people were complaining about weak >>documentation, too much information about things that they were not >>interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be the most >>common complaint. In my very short recent history with FreeBSD, I've >>formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's greatest weakness. >>FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write a good book for >>beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is needed with examples >>that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in plain English. There >>seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around. >> >>I have decided that it is a very good operating system which I need to >>learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links that everyone sent >>me. Thanks for all of the info. >> >>-- >> >>Lloyd Hayes >> >>Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com >>URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com >>E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 >>Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 07:00:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B06416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AD5443D2F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:00:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com) (wyoming?antelope@204.95.13.58 with plain) by smtp012.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 07:00:12 -0000 Message-ID: <40D6876E.8050005@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:59:58 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom McLaughlin , FreeBSD Org References: <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> <40D496C7.3090908@wcborstel.nl> <1087677031.834.99.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> In-Reply-To: <1087677031.834.99.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:00:42 -0000 >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. >BSD is for people who love Unix. Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux community. In doing some reading, it appears that the people at KDE and Gnome, as well as many others, have this same thought. I was actually pointed in the FreeBSD direction by a magazine writer whom I was communicating with about the future of Linux. We talked by email and he thought that FreeBSD had to most promise of a good future. He suggested that I should check FreeBSD out. Understand that learning UNIX is not my end goal. It may happen in the process, but being a master of the UNIX system is not my end goal. Nor is writing programs my goal. I wrote a ton of programs 20 years ago, but I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years. I have no wish to work in an IT shop anywhere. My goal is simply to keep some of my older computers useful. I care less about which operating system I am using as long as it does the job that I want. This business of buying new computers every year or two is a Micro$oft idea. It is also an idea that needs to be re-thought. Micro$oft is great about jumping onto new technology with half-baked software. When they get close to fixing their software, then they abandon it for new technology and more half-baked software expecting people to buy the new hardware/software. It's a system that Micro$oft can't be beaten at. I simply think that it is time for a change. (I'm not against new ideas. But I hate keeping up with Mr. Gates.) Lloyd Hayes Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ Tom McLaughlin wrote: >On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote: > > >>Lloyd Hayes wrote: >> >> >> >>>I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I >>>got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting >>>errors again.... >>> >>>So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the >>>reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about >>>weak documentation, too much information about things that they were >>>not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be >>>the most common complaint. In my very short recent history with >>>FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's >>>greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to >>>write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book >>>is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are >>>explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on >>>FreeBSD around. >>> >>> >>Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in the >>first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or SuSe or >>something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user friendly" >>operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just have to know >>some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD. >> >> > >I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago >with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago. I >switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. >When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and >administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in >those first few years. > >Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became >harder. Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across >too many files. I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the >distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't >truely learn the system. For anyone who really wants to learn unix the >BSDs are the place to start. > >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. >BSD is for people who love Unix. > >Tom > > > >>I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very good. >>Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth >>information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good for >>beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why don't >>you give that one a shot? >> >>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8369533?v=glance >> >>And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is bad, >>because there is book that can beat it if you ask me. >> >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >> >>Cheers, >> >>Jorn >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 07:04:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E2A16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:04:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mynah.mail.pas.earthlink.net (mynah.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E704B43D5C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:04:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lwellis@mindspring.com) Received: from h-66-166-251-63.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net ([66.166.251.63] helo=LLAPTOP) by mynah.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BcIqX-0000M3-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:04:01 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> From: "LW Ellis" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:04:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-ELNK-Trace: aa15571473bf62249649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac45077f4f3343f42dd4b81805070bcca1b7c3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:04:14 -0000 Ok gang don't be to rough. I am a long time windows user, and am used to running disk maintenance. Scandisk, defrag, etc Do I need to run something similar on FreeBSD? or not? I let my machine run 24/7 and have received the weekend reports (which I found fascinating.) If I need to run such apps, which one in the ports do I chose? Thanx all Later, Leon A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir Winston Churchill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 07:41:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C46A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server1.web-mania.com (server1.web-mania.com [193.22.244.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221743D46 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:41:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@arameus.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by server1.web-mania.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i5L7ekg17714; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:40:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:40:46 +0100 Message-Id: <200406210740.i5L7ekg17714@server1.web-mania.com> X-Authentication-Warning: server1.web-mania.com: www set sender to list@arameus.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 212.159.95.35 (auth. user list@arameus.net@pop3.arameus.net) by www.arameus.net with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:40:45 +0000 X-IlohaMail-Blah: list@arameus.net X-IlohaMail-Method: mail() [mem] X-IlohaMail-Dummy: moo X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.12 (On: www.arameus.net) In-Reply-To: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> From: Edd Bounce-To: Edd Errors-To: Edd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:41:07 -0000 fsck is what your looking for. To find out more type: man fsck On 6/21/2004, "LW Ellis" wrote: >Ok gang don't be to rough. >I am a long time windows user, >and am used to running disk maintenance. >Scandisk, defrag, etc >Do I need to run something similar on FreeBSD? >or not? >I let my machine run 24/7 and have received the weekend reports >(which I found fascinating.) >If I need to run such apps, which one in the >ports do I chose? > >Thanx all > >Later, >Leon >A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. >Sir Winston Churchill >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 07:43:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1717316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:43:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D87E943D53 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:43:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com) (wyoming?antelope@204.95.13.58 with plain) by smtp017.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 07:43:05 -0000 Message-ID: <40D69179.4000505@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:42:49 -0600 From: Lloyd Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Jayson Alvarez , FreeBSD Org References: <20040620015951.17472.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040620015951.17472.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:43:21 -0000 I liked your story. Here is mine. In the 1980s, I was offered programming jobs at Microsoft and Intuit, and few other companies. I wasn't sure if I was willing to commit to working full time on computers. Up until this point, writing computer programs had simply been a hobby. So, I went back to college and buried myself in a year of intensive computer classes. (No UNIX.) I came out of it with 4.0 grade average, job offers by the US Government, and an intense dislike of computers. I worked myself back into liking computers afterwards as long as it was a passive acquaintance. I like using computers for work, communication and recreation. I don't like spending all day, every day, on them. Needless to say, I didn't take anyones job offer which related to computers. As I have mentioned earlier, my only goal here is to setup some older computers of mine and keep them useful. I'll repeat this so there is no misunderstanding. The people here have been great in their response to help! But there is also no getting around the fact that I am much older (54) and less able to absorb new ideas as fast.... Lloyd Hayes Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote: >Hi Lloyd, > > Let me share you my experience with learning >freebsd. I promise you... you'll throw away those >expensive books that you have bought after reading my >story.. > > A few months ago, I was totally a Windows user. >I've already heard about Linux from a friend but not >exactly Unix.. That friend of mine was convincing me >to use the same OS he's using but I refused to cause >I've seen nothing graphical with he's OS(running the >whole thing in Terminal without using any Desktop >environment). But then something bright have sparked >in my mind and decided to search Google for "best >Operating System". And so I've landed on Windows, >Freebsd, MacOS and, Linux comparison.. Of the four >OS's featured, I've never heard anything about FreeBSD >and so I went to their site to find out more... And my >journey began there... > After finishing the installation of Freebsd(using >only the handbook and nothing else) I've landed on >this so called terminal.. Mind you, I'm completely new >to Unix and I know not a thing, not even the "ls" >command.. Learning that FreeBSD is a Unix like >operating system, I began searching google for "Unix >commands" and I've downloaded something in PDF format >comparing the commands in MSDOS(which I'm used with) >and those that are used in Unix.. > And that's it!!! With a few resources at hand I was >able to do all of the things I used to do in Windows >without having too much trouble in FreeBSD.. >Now, I'm still reading FreeBSD's Handbook and I'm >already on the Chapter 19-Advance Networking.. >preparing my self for a career in Networking being >just a fresh graduate.. > I tell you... learning one thing is not about the >those fancy Documents and instructions that would help >you out along the way... It's about having that >willingness and passion to learn that thing.. It's >about having the confidence that, "hey, if they've >learned this, why can't I?!" Knowledge is a long race, >and don't you worry my friend.. you're not the last in >this race... 'cause no one has ever gone too far.. > > Hope this thought would help you out and all of >those beginners like "us" whom would want to dwell >into the simple but complicated world of Unix >computing... > >Regards to all Mailers >-jay:-) > > > >--- Lloyd Hayes wrote: > > >>I finally decided that I needed to get more >>information on FreeBSD. I >>got it up and running, then I did something else and >>I start getting >>errors again.... >> >>So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In >>most of the reviews >>posted there about the books, people were >>complaining about weak >>documentation, too much information about things >>that they were not >>interested in, and errors in the in the books which >>seems to be the most >>common complaint. In my very short recent history >>with FreeBSD, I've >>formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's >>greatest weakness. >>FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to write >>a good book for >>beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book is >>needed with examples >>that actually WORK! Examples that are explained in >>plain English. There >>seems to be very few books on FreeBSD around. >> >>I have decided that it is a very good operating >>system which I need to >>learn more about. And yes, I have all of the links >>that everyone sent >>me. Thanks for all of the info. >> >>-- >> >>Lloyd Hayes >> >>Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com >>URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com >>E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 >>Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> >> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 07:53:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3124A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:53:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server1.web-mania.com (server1.web-mania.com [193.22.244.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7879343D1F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:53:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from list@arameus.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by server1.web-mania.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i5L7qju19087; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:52:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:52:45 +0100 Message-Id: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> X-Authentication-Warning: server1.web-mania.com: www set sender to list@arameus.net using -f To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from 212.159.95.35 (auth. user list@arameus.net@pop3.arameus.net) by www.arameus.net with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:52:45 +0000 X-IlohaMail-Blah: list@arameus.net X-IlohaMail-Method: mail() [mem] X-IlohaMail-Dummy: moo X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.12 (On: www.arameus.net) From: Edd Bounce-To: Edd Errors-To: Edd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:53:30 -0000 Hi there, Maybe the question I am asking is how do I burn a dvd using open source. But I know that dvd's ar encoded in MPEG2. Apparently ffmpeg can encode mpeg2, but I havent been able to get mencoder (compiled against ffmpeg) to work for me. Anyone have any tips? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 08:11:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4900616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:11:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E53343D4C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:11:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jan.muenther@nruns.com) Received: from [212.227.126.206] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BcJtv-0003Cg-00; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:11:35 +0200 Received: from [212.202.43.252] (helo=localghost.muenther.de) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BcJtv-0000MI-00; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:11:35 +0200 Received: by localghost.muenther.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D7F3421E87B; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:12:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:12:02 +0200 From: Jan Muenther To: Edd Message-ID: <20040621081202.GA1538@localghost.muenther.de> References: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> <200406210740.i5L7ekg17714@server1.web-mania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406210740.i5L7ekg17714@server1.web-mania.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:9a8a46f2b40f7808f7699def63624ac2 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:11:47 -0000 > fsck is what your looking for. > > To find out more type: > man fsck Hm, not really. UFS doesn't fragment as hard as FAT or NTFS do, so there's no need to actively defragment it. It's just a tad bit more clever with block allocation than those other file- systems. You don't need to run fsck manually, on a regular basis. It's there to fix things when problems appear or you didn't dismount the filesystems normally. In that case, /etc/rc runs it anyway... in some rare cases you need to run it from single user mode, but hey, you'll notice when you need to do that :> Cheers, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 08:20:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A37B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:20:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.35.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA96943D45 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:19:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i5L8Ja6F012470; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:19:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5L8JVA7012469; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:19:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:19:31 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Edd Message-ID: <20040621081931.GA11728@abigail.blackend.org> References: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-PRERELEASE cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:20:00 -0000 On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 08:52:45AM +0100, Edd wrote: > > Hi there, > Maybe the question I am asking is how do I burn a dvd using open source. > But I know that dvd's ar encoded in MPEG2. Apparently ffmpeg can > encode mpeg2, but I havent been able to get mencoder (compiled against > ffmpeg) to work for me. Anyone have any tips? > If you really want to use ffmpeg, you should install transcode which provides encoding profiles and can use ffmpeg or mpeg2enc for MPEG2 encoding. Marc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 08:23:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0759216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:23:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net (starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00F143D55 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:23:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lwellis@mindspring.com) Received: from h-68-165-112-171.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net ([68.165.112.171] helo=LLAPTOP) by starling.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.36 #4) id 1BcK5q-0000sp-00; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:23:54 -0700 Message-ID: <002101c45769$166050d0$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> From: "LW Ellis" To: "Jan Muenther" , References: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP><200406210740.i5L7ekg17714@server1.web-mania.com> <20040621081202.GA1538@localghost.muenther.de> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 02:23:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-ELNK-Trace: aa15571473bf62249649176a89d694c0f43c108795ac4507b94aa11ea8f95fa0bb06b35d0da796d1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Thanx [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:23:55 -0000 Cool, I noticed that it was not as defragged as W* would have been with all the stuff I've been doing. I am beginning to really like BSD... Leon > > You don't need to run fsck manually, on a regular basis. It's there to fix > things when problems appear or you didn't dismount the filesystems normally. > > In that case, /etc/rc runs it anyway... in some rare cases you need to run it > from single user mode, but hey, you'll notice when you need to do that :> > > > Cheers, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 08:26:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A6F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx3.mra.co.id (mx3.mra.co.id [202.138.254.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD5043D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:26:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reza@mra.co.id) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.mra.co.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id A812C2E08C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:44:29 +0700 (WIT) Received: from mx3.mra.co.id ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.mra.co.id [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22204-15 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:43:14 +0700 (WIT) Received: from mail.mra.co.id (unknown [172.16.0.25]) by mx3.mra.co.id (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9AE2E0D4 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:43:13 +0700 (WIT) Received: from mra.co.id ([172.16.0.228]) by mail.mra.co.id with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:22:26 +0700 Message-ID: <40D69B6E.9060102@mra.co.id> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:25:18 +0700 From: Muhammad Reza User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040429 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lloyd Hayes References: <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> <40D496C7.3090908@wcborstel.nl> <1087677031.834.99.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> <40D6876E.8050005@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <40D6876E.8050005@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2004 08:22:26.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2D3E790:01C45768] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at mra.co.id cc: Tom McLaughlin cc: FreeBSD Org Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:26:39 -0000 BSD cant do multipath routing behind NAT, just like iproute(8) Linux, hope Paul Hening Kamp Patch will work... regards reza >> Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. >> BSD is for people who love Unix. > > > Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... > > Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any > really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux > community. In doing some reading, it appears that the people at KDE > and Gnome, as well as many others, have this same thought. I was > actually pointed in the FreeBSD direction by a magazine writer whom I > was communicating with about the future of Linux. We talked by email > and he thought that FreeBSD had to most promise of a good future. He > suggested that I should check FreeBSD out. > > Understand that learning UNIX is not my end goal. It may happen in the > process, but being a master of the UNIX system is not my end goal. Nor > is writing programs my goal. I wrote a ton of programs 20 years ago, > but I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years. I have no > wish to work in an IT shop anywhere. My goal is simply to keep some of > my older computers useful. I care less about which operating system I > am using as long as it does the job that I want. This business of > buying new computers every year or two is a Micro$oft idea. It is also > an idea that needs to be re-thought. > > Micro$oft is great about jumping onto new technology with half-baked > software. When they get close to fixing their software, then they > abandon it for new technology and more half-baked software expecting > people to buy the new hardware/software. It's a system that Micro$oft > can't be beaten at. I simply think that it is time for a change. > > (I'm not against new ideas. But I hate keeping up with Mr. Gates.) > > Lloyd Hayes > > Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com > URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com > E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ > > > > Tom McLaughlin wrote: > >> On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote: >> >> >>> Lloyd Hayes wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. >>>> I got it up and running, then I did something else and I start >>>> getting errors again.... >>>> >>>> So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the >>>> reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about >>>> weak documentation, too much information about things that they >>>> were not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems >>>> to be the most common complaint. In my very short recent history >>>> with FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is >>>> it's greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type >>>> to write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A >>>> book is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are >>>> explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on >>>> FreeBSD around. >>>> >>> Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in >>> the first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or >>> SuSe or something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user >>> friendly" operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just >>> have to know some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD. >>> >> >> I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago >> with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago. I >> switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. >> When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and >> administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in >> those first few years. >> Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became >> harder. Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across >> too many files. I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the >> distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't >> truely learn the system. For anyone who really wants to learn unix the >> BSDs are the place to start. >> >> Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. >> BSD is for people who love Unix. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >>> I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very >>> good. Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth >>> information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good >>> for beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why >>> don't you give that one a shot? >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8369533?v=glance >>> >>> >>> And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is >>> bad, because there is book that can beat it if you ask me. >>> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Jorn >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 09:10:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E433D16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:10:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from frodo.otenet.gr (frodo.otenet.gr [195.170.0.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D9E43D64 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:10:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226]) by frodo.otenet.gr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5L9ABXO014606; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:10:18 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion.daedalusnetworks.priv [127.0.0.1])i5L9GMoM007198; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:16:22 +0300 Received: (from keramida@localhost)i5L9GKQb007197; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:16:20 +0300 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:16:20 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Lloyd Hayes Message-ID: <20040621091620.GC7059@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <20040620015951.17472.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> <40D69179.4000505@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40D69179.4000505@yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD weakness(It's not. hear my story) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:10:33 -0000 On 2004-06-21 01:42, Lloyd Hayes wrote: > I'll repeat this so there is no misunderstanding. The people here have > been great in their response to help! But there is also no getting > around the fact that I am much older (54) and less able to absorb new > ideas as fast.... That's okay. My mother is around that age and started using a computer about a year ago. She doesn't want to be a hot-shot programmer or even anything remotely related to an IT professional. No time for that just yet, what with a full time job as a teacher in primary school and all the rest of the stuff she does at home. Yet, she has actually managed to learn quite an astonishing amount of things by spending a total of less than 200 hours during a period that lasted almost a year and a half. So, it's not impossible to learn using a computer even at this age. I'm not saying it's easy either, mind you. But it *can* be done ;) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 09:46:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E3F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:46:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from a2.scoop.co.nz (aurora.scoop.co.nz [203.96.152.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED8343D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:46:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by a2.scoop.co.nz (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i5L9krhD051182 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:46:54 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@scoop.co.nz) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:46:53 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040621213006.J99435@a2.scoop.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.3.8 (a2.scoop.co.nz [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:46:54 +1200 (NZST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.71, clamav-milter version 0.71 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: pam_group in FBSD 4.8? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:46:56 -0000 I've got an offshore server which is running FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE. Because of the awkwardness of physical access in case of problems. I would however like to have one of the features to have been added since 4.8 - namely the pam_group access control module. Can anyone tell me what's involved to retrofit pam_group into FBSD 4.8? Has anyone done this already? Are there any alternative pam modules I could use to specify which set of users can use a given service? Andrew McNaughton -- No added Sugar. Not tested on animals. May contain traces of Nuts. If irritation occurs, discontinue use. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew McNaughton Living in a shack in Tasmania andrew@scoop.co.nz Between the bush and the sea Mobile: +61 422 753 792 http://staff.scoop.co.nz/andrew/cv.doc http://www.scoop.co.nz/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 10:18:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925B816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:18:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns3.tele-kom.ru (ns3.tele-kom.ru [217.107.251.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A38343D1F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:18:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 10585 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2004 09:15:54 -0000 Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (213.80.148.6) by ns.tele-kom.ru with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 09:15:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 43959 invoked by uid 555); 21 Jun 2004 10:18:30 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.149.142) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1087813109-43934 for list@arameus.net; Mon, 21 Jun 14:18:29 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C39B38D; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:18:14 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:18:14 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Jan Muenther Message-ID: <20040621101813.GA6399@Shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Jan Muenther , Edd , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> <200406210740.i5L7ekg17714@server1.web-mania.com> <20040621081202.GA1538@localghost.muenther.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040621081202.GA1538@localghost.muenther.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Edd Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:18:23 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 10:12:02AM +0200, Jan Muenther probably wrote: > > fsck is what your looking for. > >=20 > > To find out more type: > > man fsck >=20 > Hm, not really. UFS doesn't fragment as hard as FAT or NTFS do, so there'= s no > need to actively defragment it. Just a small correction: fsck has nothing to do with fragmentation (if only reporting it), it does integrity checking. > It's just a tad bit more clever with block allocation than those other fi= le- > systems.=20 > You don't need to run fsck manually, on a regular basis. You really don't need to do that, but it's because the ffs filesystem is more clever at being consistent than FAT, and not because it's cleverer at allocating blocks (though it certainly is). HTH, --=20 DoubleF But soft you, the fair Ophelia: Ope not thy ponderous and marble jaws, But get thee to a nunnery -- go! -- Mark "The Bard" Twain --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1rXlwo7hT/9lVdwRAsJ1AJ94CZJSDmLWWcDo1hxqYCY6hQYR8QCfaQMq t0Aq26PWcli7jU6WfDdkKMw= =FnV5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 10:25:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF0416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:25:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from x.ja6.com (x.ja6.com [64.239.13.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2EB43D2D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:25:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonaadam@nsu.acast.nova.edu) Received: from nsu.nova.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by x.ja6.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5LAP0dV019232 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:25:01 -0400 Message-ID: <40D6B77A.9030102@nsu.nova.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 06:24:58 -0400 From: Jon Adams User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040316 X-Accept-Language: rs1_4f1c29d98c6, rs2_246f19c3bce, rs3_81d0880ece MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: notspam, spamassassin (score=-4.9, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00) Subject: Slocate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:25:17 -0000 Okay, I am a relative FreeBSD newbie, my main question is.... Is there a tool similar to Linux secure locate (slocate) that can be used on FreeBSD. I dont want to do a complicated find with 50 million options to find a file. I downloaded the slocate-2.7 source and I get a weird makefile error I have never seen before. -- Jonathan Keirre Adams PhD Candidate, Computer Information Systems Graduate School of Computer and Information Sciences Nova Southeastern University -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 10:42:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B04716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:42:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq3.home.nl (smtpq3.home.nl [213.51.128.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790B043D49 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:42:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=54382 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq3.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BcMFk-0002Pf-5d; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:42:16 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([212.204.145.167]:53215 helo=workstation.homenet) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BcMFi-000687-TJ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:42:14 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: grint@yandex.ru Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:42:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40D56129.000002.02151@pantene.yandex.ru> In-Reply-To: <40D56129.000002.02151@pantene.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406211242.09238.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux-realplay and esd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: danny@ricin.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:42:18 -0000 On Sunday 20 June 2004 12:04, grint wrote: > Hello, > > I want use linux-realplay with esound, but when i try it i have some error. > I search about it in google, and find that i must have libesd.so.0, but > i have only libesd.so.2. I create symlink to libesd.so.0 from libesd.so.2. > And now when i try use realplay i have coredump realplay. libesd.so.2 is "ours", you probably need the linux esd port for running through linux compat, Try /usr/ports/audio/linux-esound, it installs into /usr/compat/linux. HTH, Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 10:53:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26C416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:53:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0A243D55 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:53:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i5LAr5sN056476 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)id i5LAr5Le056475; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:53:05 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Jon Adams Message-ID: <20040621105305.GA56286@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Jon Adams , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <40D6B77A.9030102@nsu.nova.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40D6B77A.9030102@nsu.nova.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Message not sent from an IPv4 address, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.4 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:53:05 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040612, clamav-milter version 0.72a on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slocate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:53:20 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 06:24:58AM -0400, Jon Adams wrote: > Okay, I am a relative FreeBSD newbie, my main question is.... >=20 > Is there a tool similar to Linux secure locate (slocate) that can be=20 > used on FreeBSD. I dont want to do a complicated find with > 50 million options to find a file. I downloaded the slocate-2.7 source= =20 > and I get a weird makefile error I have never seen before. locate(1) comes with the system. By default the locate database gets updated weekly by the /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate script -- this script builds the database using the 'nobody' UID, so generally files that are not world readable will not be included. If I remember correctly, that's about the same as what slocate does to build it's database of files (and what earns it that 's' title...) Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFA1r4RiD657aJF7eIRAu1dAKCxGC46j7YI9zFM+ZLSdasH8mU64wCggFf0 FzwA3xGt+IqFWM27KlaBOME= =sqy4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 11:05:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8010816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:05:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B97543D58 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:05:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl) Received: from [82.161.131.177] (helo=abubbletprpdda) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BcMbY-0002yo-00; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:04:48 +0000 From: "Ruben Bloemgarten" To: "'Brett Wiggins'" , Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:02:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcRXBI2UQt0axuv/QNakneugZfKA6AAehcEg Message-Id: Subject: RE: kdm and startkde X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ruben@bloemgarten.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:05:08 -0000 Show us your ~/.xinit ! for kdm/xdm/gdm, -> check your hostname. Try to run xdm, gdm and kdm manually and let us know if there is any difference between them. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Brett Wiggins Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kdm and startkde hello, I am having some problems with startkde and kdm. When I run startkde i get the following outpit; xset: unable to open dispaly "" xsetroot: unable to open display '' startkde: starting up... ksplash cannot connect to X server kdeinit: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory ksmserver : cannot connect to X server startkde: shutting down Warning: connect() failed: : no such file or directory Error : Can't contact kdeinit! startkde: Running shutdown scripts startkde: done When I run startx kde runs fine. When I edit /etc/ttys to enable a graphical login, kdm runs but nothing happens when I log in. The login screen is just reloaded. Any help would be great. Brett _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 15:01:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A7116A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tim.rapidweb.ca (ip216-239-92-3.vif.net [216.239.92.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BBC43D48 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:01:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mmiocevich@travcom.ca) Received: from c003179a ([69.28.232.250]) by tim.rapidweb.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i5KF5ZI26658 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> From: "Mike Miocevich" To: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:00:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-rapidweb-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-rapidweb-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:11:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Terminal Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mike Miocevich List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:01:14 -0000 Hi, Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, = multiple sessions? Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 20 17:14:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F316A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:14:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web60601.mail.yahoo.com (web60601.mail.yahoo.com [216.109.118.221]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3320643D4C for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:14:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hillman_dai@yahoo.com.hk) Message-ID: <20040620171437.42260.qmail@web60601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.176.240.196] by web60601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:14:37 CST Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 01:14:37 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?Hillman=20Dai?= To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:11:31 +0000 Subject: Question about KVM switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:14:38 -0000 Hi all, I have just installed the FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm using a KVM switch to share the monitor, mouse and keyboard. I could managed to use keyboard while the mouse still doesn't work. Could you help me to solve the problem? What kind of command I could use to check and which file you want me to send back to you? The brand of the KVM switch is: Name: IOGear Model: GCS52U Thank You for your support! Regards, Hillman _________________________________________________________ ¥²±þ§Þ¡B¶¼ºq¡B¤p¬P¬P... ®öº©¹aÁn ±¡¤ß³sô http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=22281/*http://ringtone.yahoo.com.hk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 00:56:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9378716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web21204.mail.yahoo.com (web21204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.77]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D27643D39 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adriankok2000@yahoo.com.hk) Message-ID: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [142.154.115.98] by web21204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:56:32 CST Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:56:32 +0800 (CST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?adrian=20kok?= To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:11:31 +0000 Subject: ping command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:32 -0000 Hi all Do you know why the command "ping" in unix and window is different? I start from one ISP to ping other ISP 1/ If the following result from window, it is good or not? lost = 7 within 3 thousand packets 2/ how do I kow the average ms is good or not? 3/ Which one (unix or window) is best for testing? Thank you very much for your advice Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=57 Ping statistics for 66.49.4.148: Packets: Sent = 3534, Received = 3527, Lost = 7 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 640ms, Average = 102ms Control-C - _______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 00:56:59 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632DF16A541 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web21202.mail.yahoo.com (web21202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36B3A43D41 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from adriankok2000@yahoo.com.hk) Message-ID: <20040621005659.30187.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [142.154.115.98] by web21202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:56:59 CST Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:56:59 +0800 (CST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?adrian=20kok?= To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:11:31 +0000 Subject: ping command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:56:59 -0000 Hi all Do you know why the command "ping" in unix and window is different? I start from one ISP to ping other ISP 1/ If the following result from window, it is good or not? lost = 7 within 3 thousand packets 2/ how do I kow the average ms is good or not? 3/ Which one (unix or window) is best for testing? Thank you very much for your advice Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=57 Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=57 Ping statistics for 66.49.4.148: Packets: Sent = 3534, Received = 3527, Lost = 7 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 640ms, Average = 102ms Control-C - _______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 03:49:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D04016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:49:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.diamondarm.ru (diamondarm.ru [81.17.14.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE4B43D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:49:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from S.V.Salsky@diamondarm.ru) Received: from mx.diamondarm.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.diamondarm.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5L3nkNv013154 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:49:47 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from S.V.Salsky@diamondarm.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by mx.diamondarm.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i5L3nkv3013153 for questions@FreeBSD.org.KAV; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:49:46 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from S.V.Salsky@diamondarm.ru) Received: from svs57 ([192.168.0.91]) by mx.diamondarm.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5L3niNv013141 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:49:45 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from S.V.Salsky@diamondarm.ru) Message-ID: <000e01c45742$b9b45dc0$5b00a8c0@brilliant.local> From: =?koi8-r?B?8y73LvPBzNjTy8nK?= To: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:49:15 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:11:31 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Aboout pptp+ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 03:49:22 -0000 Hello, What ports I should pass in ipfw for vpn - pptp (poptop)?=20 ipfw add allow tcp from any to my-gateway 1723 ipfw add allow tcp from my-gateway 1723 to any is not working... 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Salsky From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:12:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FF816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:12:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C1343D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:12:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq60-099.dial.allstream.net [216.123.136.99]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 48ABBB4C95; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:11:38 -0400 From: epilogue@allstream.net To: Lloyd Hayes Message-Id: <20040621081138.54b49c61@localhost> In-Reply-To: <40D6876E.8050005@yahoo.com> References: <40D484A2.2080602@yahoo.com> <40D496C7.3090908@wcborstel.nl> <1087677031.834.99.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> <40D6876E.8050005@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Org Subject: FreeBSD weakness. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:12:11 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 00:59:58 -0600 Lloyd Hayes wrote: > >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. > >BSD is for people who love Unix. > > Under these conditions, I guess that I need to go for Linux... > > Seriously, one thing that catches my attention is that I don't see any > really great differences between the BSD (Any version) and the Linux > community. In doing some reading, it appears that the people at KDE and Hello Lloyd, I can't help but piping in here with my (er, someone else's) 2 cents. For a nice overview of the fundamental differences (and similarities) between FreeBSD and Linux-choose-your-flavour, take a gander at the following article... http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php It is a well written and rewarding read which presents (IMHO) a fair and balanced take on the matter. I have had only 'thanks' from those to whom I have provided the link. Hope that this provides you with a footing solid enough to make a comfortable and informed decision. Cheers, epi > Gnome, as well as many others, have this same thought. I was actually > pointed in the FreeBSD direction by a magazine writer whom I was > communicating with about the future of Linux. We talked by email and he > thought that FreeBSD had to most promise of a good future. He suggested > that I should check FreeBSD out. > > Understand that learning UNIX is not my end goal. It may happen in the > process, but being a master of the UNIX system is not my end goal. Nor > is writing programs my goal. I wrote a ton of programs 20 years ago, but > I haven't written a single line of code in 10 years. I have no wish to > work in an IT shop anywhere. My goal is simply to keep some of my older > computers useful. I care less about which operating system I am using as > long as it does the job that I want. This business of buying new > computers every year or two is a Micro$oft idea. It is also an idea that > needs to be re-thought. > > Micro$oft is great about jumping onto new technology with half-baked > software. When they get close to fixing their software, then they > abandon it for new technology and more half-baked software expecting > people to buy the new hardware/software. It's a system that Micro$oft > can't be beaten at. I simply think that it is time for a change. > > (I'm not against new ideas. But I hate keeping up with Mr. Gates.) > > Lloyd Hayes > > Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com > URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com > E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ > > > > Tom McLaughlin wrote: > > >On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote: > > > > > >>Lloyd Hayes wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I finally decided that I needed to get more information on FreeBSD. I > >>>got it up and running, then I did something else and I start getting > >>>errors again.... > >>> > >>>So I just ordered 3 books on FreeBSD from Amazon. In most of the > >>>reviews posted there about the books, people were complaining about > >>>weak documentation, too much information about things that they were > >>>not interested in, and errors in the in the books which seems to be > >>>the most common complaint. In my very short recent history with > >>>FreeBSD, I've formed the opinion that documenting FreeBSD is it's > >>>greatest weakness. FreeBSD needs someone who can actually type to > >>>write a good book for beginners who have never seen UNIX code. A book > >>>is needed with examples that actually WORK! Examples that are > >>>explained in plain English. There seems to be very few books on > >>>FreeBSD around. > >>> > >>> > >>Beginners who never seen UNIX coude shouldn't start with FreeBSD in the > >>first place, if you ask me. They should start Mandrake Linux or SuSe or > >>something of the sorts. FreeBSD isn't made to make an "user friendly" > >>operating system, as Mandrake Linux is aiming at. You just have to know > >>some Unix stuff before you even start with FreeBSD. > >> > >> > > > >I would have to disgree having my first *nix experience five years ago > >with Mandrake and switching to FreeBSD a number of months ago. I > >switched to FreeBSD because I felt my unix skills were getting rusty. > >When I started with Mandrake I did most of my system configuration and > >administration from the command line and I learned a lot of unix in > >those first few years. > > > >Over time with the inclusion of more GUI based tools that became > >harder. Files seemed to keep moving or configuration was spread across > >too many files. I believe you end up becomming too dependant on the > >distribution specific configuration tools with Linux and you don't > >truely learn the system. For anyone who really wants to learn unix the > >BSDs are the place to start. > > > >Linux is for people who hate Micro$oft. > >BSD is for people who love Unix. > > > >Tom > > > > > > > >>I have the book on the below link, and I must say it is very very good. > >>Good examples and clearly elaborated, though it lacks in-depth > >>information, which might be handy for more advanced users. It's good > >for >beginners who are comfortable in a Unix or Linux enviroment. Why > >don't >you give that one a shot? > >> > >>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072224096/104-0798845-8 > >369533?v=glance> > >>And what about our own FreeBSD Handbook? Don't tell me that that is > >bad, >because there is book that can beat it if you ask me. > >> > >>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > >> > >>Cheers, > >> > >>Jorn > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:19:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8882116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:19:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3262E43D5C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:19:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oxo@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 42766 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2004 12:19:33 -0000 Received: from shell-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za (oxo@10.0.0.1) by server-em0.rucus.ru.ac.za with QMQP; 21 Jun 2004 12:19:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:19:33 +0200 From: John Oxley To: Mike Miocevich Message-ID: <20040621121933.GB81518@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Terminal Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:19:47 -0000 On Sun 2004-06-20 (11:00), Mike Miocevich wrote: > Hi, > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple sessions? Hi Mike, The short answer is yes. The longer answer is FreeBSD, like all unices, has been built from the ground up as a multi-user network operating system. Allowing multiple users to work at the same time on a FreeBSD box is as simple as enabling ssh and adding users to the system. If you want to give them graphical access, you can use X forwarding, or if you are on windows machines, VNC. I recommend TightVNC (http://www.tightvnc.com/). I have worked on an easy way to allow users a graphical login without having to make them run X servers on windows or manually setup a VNC session. It is documented at http://oxo.rucus.net/docs/Terminal-Vnc-HOWTO It is incomplete at the moment. All I need to do is clean up the presentation and grammar (I was always better at maths :), and insert instructions on use of KDE's Desktop Manager. -Ox -- /~\ The ASCII ASCII stupid question, get a EBCDIC ANSI. \ / Ribbon Campaign John Oxley X Against HTML http://oxo.rucus.net/ / \ Email! oxo rucus.ru.ac.za "Personally, I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped, pop-up-happy dungeon like NT." -- Thomas Scoville From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:24:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D121A16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:24:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E45143D1D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:24:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B999E69A3F; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:24:13 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Hillman Dai Message-Id: <20040621082413.379efe03.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040620171437.42260.qmail@web60601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040620171437.42260.qmail@web60601.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Question about KVM switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:24:22 -0000 Hillman Dai wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just installed the FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm using > a KVM switch to share the monitor, mouse and keyboard. > I could managed to use keyboard while the mouse still > doesn't work. Could you help me to solve the problem? > What kind of command I could use to check and which > file you want me to send back to you? > > The brand of the KVM switch is: > Name: IOGear > Model: GCS52U > > Thank You for your support! Have to tried plugging the mouse directly into the machine to ensure that it's not the mouse that's the problem. Are you trying to use the mouse in X? If so, what are the symptoms? What steps have you taken to enable the mouse? Did you install/configure moused? -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:26:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3F716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:26:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DB643D58 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:26:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq60-099.dial.allstream.net [216.123.136.99]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id 2108AB4C59; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:26:17 -0400 From: epilogue@allstream.net To: adrian kok Message-Id: <20040621082617.4a0a5b48@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ping command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:26:36 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:56:32 +0800 (CST) adrian kok wrote: > Hi all > > Do you know why the command "ping" in unix and window > is different? > Not if and how they are different. Perhaps someone else can help out here... > I start from one ISP to ping other ISP > > 1/ If the following result from window, it is good or > not? > lost = 7 within 3 thousand packets > In your results, you'll notice that you lost 7 packets out of over 3500, which translates to a loss of 0%. In internetworking, it is generally normal for the odd packet to get lost along the way (for a variety of reasons). Simply analysing the loss rate is not enough to know if your connection is behaving as it should (1), nor does it help to pinpoint where a problem may be (2). (1) Unless you know the expected latency of the path you're testing, you're not going to get very far. You'll have to read up (books/google) on networking latencies in order to get a better handle on this. (2) Unless you're pinging each hop along the way to your final destination or using traceroute, you're never going to understand where a perceived problem lies. Again, networking books and google are your friends here. HTH, epi > 2/ how do I kow the average ms is good or not? > > 3/ Which one (unix or window) is best for testing? > > Thank you very much for your advice > > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=57 > > Ping statistics for 66.49.4.148: > Packets: Sent = 3534, Received = 3527, Lost = 7 > (0% loss), ^^^^^^^ > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: > Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 640ms, Average = 102ms > Control-C > > > - > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at http://mail.english.yahoo.com.hk > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:28:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBD816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:28:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89FF43D5A for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:28:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF53F69A40; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:28:19 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: adrian kok Message-Id: <20040621082819.62923c72.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ping command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:28:22 -0000 adrian kok wrote: > Hi all > > Do you know why the command "ping" in unix and window > is different? Yes. > I start from one ISP to ping other ISP > > 1/ If the following result from window, it is good or > not? > lost = 7 within 3 thousand packets No, that's not good. There's no reason to be losing any packets, unless there's a network problems. However, depending on who those two ISPs are and how far away from each other, that may be acceptable. > 2/ how do I kow the average ms is good or not? Is it fast enough? > 3/ Which one (unix or window) is best for testing? The Unix one. Last I checked, the windows one rounded off the RTTs, thus making it inaccurate for testing. > Thank you very much for your advice > > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=99ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=57 > Reply from 66.49.4.148: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=57 > > Ping statistics for 66.49.4.148: > Packets: Sent = 3534, Received = 3527, Lost = 7 > (0% loss), > Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: > Minimum = 89ms, Maximum = 640ms, Average = 102ms > Control-C It seems like you've got a LOT of variation. Either your sharing that net connection with a lot of other services, or you've got problems. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:30:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B5E16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-20.mail.nl.demon.net (post-20.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F40243D1F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nico.meijer@zonnet.nl) Received: from [82.161.24.55] (helo=zonnet.nl) by post-20.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 1BcNwN-000JWc-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:23 +0000 Message-ID: <40D6D4DE.10609@zonnet.nl> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:30:22 +0200 From: Nico Meijer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040604 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> In-Reply-To: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Terminal Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:30:38 -0000 Hi Mike, > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple sessions? Yes. HTH... Nico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:35:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FF516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:35:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (shadow2.eagle.ca [209.167.16.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A84543D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:35:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 47392 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2004 12:34:27 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by smtp.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.027941 secs); 21 Jun 2004 12:34:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.ibctech.ca) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 12:34:27 -0000 Received: from 209.167.16.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user steve@ibctech.ca) by webmail.ibctech.ca with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:34:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4502.209.167.16.15.1087821267.squirrel@webmail.ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:34:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Pascal Thibaudeau" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dpt on old PC X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:35:31 -0000 > I have compiled a kernel (based on 4.10) on a newer PC with several > options to get my dpt scsi controller for my older PC to work. > > The size of the kernel is bigger than an 1.44MB floppy disk. How can I > make a kern.flp ready floppy with my new kernel ? How much bigger is it? Can you eliminate all other devices for which you don't need support? You could put the floppy onto a CD, however, this is something I've not had the need to do so perhaps someone on the list could point you in the right direction. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:36:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836F416A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:36:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBC443D53 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:36:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A5D69A3F; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:35:23 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: "LW Ellis" Message-Id: <20040621083523.5afedd75.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> References: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:36:02 -0000 "LW Ellis" wrote: > Ok gang don't be to rough. > I am a long time windows user, > and am used to running disk maintenance. > Scandisk, defrag, etc > Do I need to run something similar on FreeBSD? > or not? > I let my machine run 24/7 and have received the weekend reports > (which I found fascinating.) > If I need to run such apps, which one in the > ports do I chose? All the software you need for routine maintenance is already installed and running. It's part of the filesystem drivers. You're probably worried about defragging. UFS defrags the filesystem as it goes, and does a damn good job of keeping things organized. The only potential problems you might have is if you fill the filesystem very close to full. As far as disk checks, they are only needed when the system is powered down imporperly (when the power goes out and you don't have a UPS). The system will run the filesystem check program (fsck) automatically on the next boot, and is usually able to fix any problems without manual intervention. If things got really scrambled, you'll be dumped into an emergency shell to fix things manually. At that point (being that you're a newbie) your best bet is to run "fsck -y" which tells fsck to fix everything, even if it might result in loss of data. I want to emphasize that the previous paragraph is only important if you don't shut your system down properly. Under normal usage, fsck is never needed. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:45:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189AA16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:45:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail02.infosat.net (mailout06.infosat.net [66.18.69.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE4B43D62 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:45:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from blygar1@webmail.co.za) Received: from [66.18.70.48] (HELO mail01.infosat.net) by mail02.infosat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 81200769 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:15 +0200 Received: from [196.31.69.30] (account blygar1@webmail.co.za) by mail01.infosat.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 345826762 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:15 +0200 From: "Gareth Bailey" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Courier-imap + Postfix problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:45:24 -0000 Hi all, This problem has to do with my mail setup. I'm running postfix MTA and courier-imap server. My maillog file is filled with messages like the following: I'm not too sure where to start - i suspect that whatever is trying to create the cache file doesn't have the neccesary permissions. If so, what is the location of this cache file? Otherwise, any other suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks, Gareth _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ For super low premiums ,click here http://www.dialdirect.co.za/quote From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:46:30 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E49B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sffwd0.suedfactoring.de (port-212-202-224-251.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.224.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6D943D55 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from axel.gruner@suedfactoring.de) Received: from pcs28.suedfactoring.de (pcs28.SUEDFAC.COM [10.2.1.228]) ESMTP id i5LCkSHG008562 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:46:28 +0200 From: "Axel S. Gruner" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:48:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406211448.16949.axel.gruner@suedfactoring.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: CURRENT does not build (annotate.texi) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:30 -0000 Hi, i got some problems building CURRENT maybe someone can tell me what the problem is: echo "@set VERSION "2.15 [FreeBSD] 2004-05-23"" > ldver.texi ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/gen-doc.texi configdoc.texi makeinfo --no-validate -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/gas/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/mi -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/libreadline/doc --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld/ld.texinfo -o ld.info gzip -cn ld.info > ld.info.gz makeinfo --no-validate -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/gas/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/ld -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/bfd/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/binutils -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/mi -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/libreadline/doc --no-split -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binutils/gas/doc/gasp.texi -o gasp.info gzip -cn gasp.info > gasp.info.gz ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/doc/all-cfg.texi gdb-cfg.texi echo "@set GDBVN `sed q /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/version.in`" > GDBvn.texi make: don't know how to make annotate.texi. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Thanks in advance, asg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:46:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA87916A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello080110061116.502.15.vie.surfer.at (chello080110061116.502.15.vie.surfer.at [80.110.61.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E14843D45 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 87873 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2004 12:46:31 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 12:46:31 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:46:17 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <000e01c45742$b9b45dc0$5b00a8c0@brilliant.local> In-Reply-To: <000e01c45742$b9b45dc0$5b00a8c0@brilliant.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_nit1Am44vvHlXDJ"; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406211446.31668.4711@chello.at> cc: =?koi8-r?b?8y73LvPBzNjTy8nK?= Subject: Re: Aboout pptp+ipfw X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:46:36 -0000 --Boundary-02=_nit1Am44vvHlXDJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 21 June 2004 05:49, =F3.=F7.=F3=C1=CC=D8=D3=CB=C9=CA wrote: > Hello, > > What ports I should pass in ipfw for vpn - pptp (poptop)? > > ipfw add allow tcp from any to my-gateway 1723 > ipfw add allow tcp from my-gateway 1723 to any > > is not working... You are missing the rules to allow the GRE (Generic Routing Encapsulation)= =20 protocol. ipfw add allow 47 from any to my-gateway ipfw add allow 47 from my-gateway to any regards ch =2D-=20 Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x941B6B0B=20 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu --Boundary-02=_nit1Am44vvHlXDJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA1tincyi/EZQbawsRAjlwAJ9JMB5qAksgDyf7fhwj1YkqwWaEoQCglXMo 5RgGthjhTJyReG1cfyL3t+w= =SDDw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_nit1Am44vvHlXDJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 12:59:49 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECC716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:59:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF3543D41 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:59:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C7969A3F; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:59:09 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Mike Miocevich Message-Id: <20040621085909.1c3e2c35.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Terminal Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:59:49 -0000 "Mike Miocevich" wrote: > Hi, > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple > sessions? I know of no software that will server as a "Windows Terminal Server" on FreeBSD. However, as others have pointed out, there are a number of alternatives: ssh if you don't need a GUI, X, and VNC. I just wanted to clarify that none of these actually use the Windows Terminal Server protocol, and thus each will require software installed on the clients as well as the server. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:06:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AFB16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:06:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EFFC43D53 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:05:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from server2.messagingengine.com (server2.internal [10.202.2.133]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C57C0CE44 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by server2.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id B4DA282950; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 1.4 (F2.72; T1.001; A1.62; B3.01; Q3.01) To: "freebsd-questions" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:05:57 -0500 From: "Jud" X-Sasl-Enc: EV/sG0CHlBmjwU0YTSoDpA 1087823157 Message-Id: <1087823157.15631.198849612@webmail.messagingengine.com> Subject: How to Cure Disk/Controller (RAID) Problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:06:00 -0000 I have an ASUS A7V333 motherboard with a Promise 20276 onboard chip controlling two IBM 120GXP 40GB hard drives in RAID-0 (striped) configuration. This configuration has operated flawlessly for years. However, in the past two weeks, twice when rebooting after the preliminary stages of a DragonFlyBSD installation (disklabel -B -r -w ar0s3 auto), my RAID array has come up broken. Rather than a two-disk array, it shows in the Promise FastTrack BIOS as two striped "arrays" consisting of one 40-gig drive each. After putting the array back together using the BIOS (deleting the two single-disk arrays and re-creating the two-disk RAID-0), the first two slices/partitions in the array (Win2K and a static pagefile) look normal, but the third gives nonsensical status information in both Windows and *BSD, e.g., a size of 1600+ GB. Neither Win nor *BSD will format this slice/partition. IBM's Drive Fitness Test (DFT) shows both disks operating normally. When I tried to use DFT to write zeroes to both disks preparatory to reinstalling from backup images, DFT responded that this utility was only available with IBM drives. (??) (This is an older version of DFT. I have downloaded the most recent version, but haven't had time to try it yet.) I'd very much appreciate advice/recommendations regarding where the problem might be and how to cure it. Jud From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:26:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB33B16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:26:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from v8.acast.nova.edu (v8.acast.nova.edu [137.52.224.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3648143D1D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:26:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonaadam@nsu.acast.nova.edu) Received: from v8.acast.nova.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by v8.acast.nova.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5LDQi5m001382 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mail21000.acast.nova.edu [137.52.226.94]) by v8.acast.nova.edu (8.12.10/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i5LDQhlk001371; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 199.93.176.10 ( [199.93.176.10]) as user jonaadam@v81000 by mail2.acast.nova.edu with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:26:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1087824402.40d6e2127054d@mail2.acast.nova.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:26:42 -0400 From: Jon Adams To: Matthew Seaman References: <40D6B77A.9030102@nsu.nova.edu> <20040621105305.GA56286@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040621105305.GA56286@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0 X-Originating-IP: 199.93.176.10 cc: Jon Adams cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slocate? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:26:45 -0000 Thanks for handling my (really dumb) question... -- Jon Quoting Matthew Seaman : > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 06:24:58AM -0400, Jon Adams wrote: > > Okay, I am a relative FreeBSD newbie, my main question is.... > > > > Is there a tool similar to Linux secure locate (slocate) that can be > > used on FreeBSD. I dont want to do a complicated find with > > 50 million options to find a file. I downloaded the slocate-2.7 source > > and I get a weird makefile error I have never seen before. > > locate(1) comes with the system. By default the locate database gets > updated weekly by the /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate script -- this > script builds the database using the 'nobody' UID, so generally files > that are not world readable will not be included. If I remember > correctly, that's about the same as what slocate does to build it's > database of files (and what earns it that 's' title...) > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks > Savill Way > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow > Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:27:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397616A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:27:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6862043D2D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:27:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AE169A3F; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:27:44 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Nico Meijer Message-Id: <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <40D6D4DE.10609@zonnet.nl> References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> <40D6D4DE.10609@zonnet.nl> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:27:46 -0000 Nico Meijer wrote: > Hi Mike, > > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple > > sessions? > > Yes. I wanted to start a brief discussion about these kinds of answers to questions. I've been seeing this quite a bit lately. I don't know if it's just one person, of if multiple folks have picked up on it. This is not an answer to the question. It does not answer the question and does not contribute to the OPs knowledge of FreeBSD, nor does it contribute to the list archives. It's also a violation of the rule against "me too" answers as laid out in "How to Get the Best Results from FreeBSD-Questions". It doesn't even serve to educate the OP on how to ask better questins. First off, there are actually two questions hidden in the post: "Can FreeBSD act as a WTS?", and "can FreeBSD provide the same services as WTS?" Is "yes" your answer to both of them? Because, if it is, I'd like to know which software allows it to function as a WTS, since my searches have not found any such software. This leads to the implied question of "what software provides the capability" which (despite not being voice, directly) is pretty obvious. You've totally ignored that question. You could say that "technically, he didn't ask" but it boils down to just being rude. I'm curious as to whether this is only my opinion, or if others feel the same way. I don't think answers like this reflect well on FreeBSD or the FreeBSD community. Short answers like "see 'man foo'" are appropriate, as they impart some knowledge and tell the OP that his question is answered in the indicated documentation, but this doesn't follow that template. I do feel that, althought Grog's document doesn't specifically chastise these types of answers, that they are _not_ in the "spirit" of that document, and do not serve the purpose of this mailing list. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:37:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E03216A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDE943D49 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:37:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1BcOzL-0005oh-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:37:31 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16598.58522.668591.675785@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:37:30 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200406211448.16949.axel.gruner@suedfactoring.de> References: <200406211448.16949.axel.gruner@suedfactoring.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: CURRENT does not build (annotate.texi) CONFIRMED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:37:32 -0000 Axel S. Gruner writes: > i got some problems building CURRENT maybe someone can tell me > what the problem is: I'm having the same issue: gzip -cn gasp.info > gasp.info.gz ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/doc/all-cfg.texi gdb-cfg.texi echo "@set GDBVN `sed q /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/version.in`" > GDBvn.texi make: don't know how to make annotate.texi. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. *** Error code 1 (System info: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 19 13:47:37 EDT 2004 Source tree updated every midnight EDT.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:40:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411516A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20F743D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:40:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from 209-6-197-67.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com ([209.6.197.67] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #7) id 1BcP2H-0006G7-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:40:33 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16598.58704.863001.297980@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:40:32 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040620171437.42260.qmail@web60601.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040620171437.42260.qmail@web60601.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta16) "celeriac" XEmacs Lucid Subject: Question about KVM switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:40:34 -0000 =?big5?q?Hillman=20Dai?= writes: > I have just installed the FreeBSD 5.2.1 and I'm using > a KVM switch to share the monitor, mouse and keyboard. > I could managed to use keyboard while the mouse still > doesn't work. Could you help me to solve the problem? > What kind of command I could use to check and which > file you want me to send back to you? It you're using X, try using Ctl+Alt+F1 to switch to the system console, then switch back to X. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:50:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00CF16A5EF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:50:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outbox.allstream.net (outbox.allstream.net [207.245.244.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64CC43D5F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:50:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from epilogue@allstream.net) Received: from localhost (mon-pq60-099.dial.allstream.net [216.123.136.99]) by outbox.allstream.net (Allstream MTA) with SMTP id AAB9A1EC4C5; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:49:32 -0400 From: epilogue@allstream.net To: Bill Moran Message-Id: <20040621094932.430ba76c@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a> <40D6D4DE.10609@zonnet.nl> <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:50:13 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:27:44 -0400 Bill Moran wrote: > Nico Meijer wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, > > > multiple sessions? > > > > Yes. > > I wanted to start a brief discussion about these kinds of answers to > questions. > > I've been seeing this quite a bit lately. I don't know if it's just one > person, of if multiple folks have picked up on it. > > > This is not an answer to the question. It does not answer the question > and does not contribute to the OPs knowledge of FreeBSD, nor does it > contribute to the list archives. It's also a violation of the rule > against "me too" answers as laid out in "How to Get the Best Results from > FreeBSD-Questions". It doesn't even serve to educate the OP on how to > ask better questins. > > First off, there are actually two questions hidden in the post: "Can > FreeBSD act as a WTS?", and "can FreeBSD provide the same services as > WTS?" Is "yes" your answer to both of them? Because, if it is, I'd like > to know which software allows it to function as a WTS, since my searches > have not found any such software. > > This leads to the implied question of "what software provides the > capability" which (despite not being voice, directly) is pretty obvious. > You've totally ignored that question. You could say that "technically, > he didn't ask" but it boils down to just being rude. > > > I'm curious as to whether this is only my opinion, or if others feel the > same way. at the risk of creating a double standard, 'me too'. ;) though they aren't particularly helpful answers, i don't believe that being curt is always the intention. rather, i think that, in their eagerness to help 'first', some posters may simply be 'forgetting' to provide substantive assistance to newcomers and other interested parties. thanks for taking the time to remind everyone about this, bill. wishful thinkingly yours, epi > I don't think answers like this reflect well on FreeBSD or the > FreeBSD community. Short answers like "see 'man foo'" are appropriate, as > they impart some knowledge and tell the OP that his question is answered > in the indicated documentation, but this doesn't follow that template. > > I do feel that, althought Grog's document doesn't specifically chastise > these types of answers, that they are _not_ in the "spirit" of that > document, and do not serve the purpose of this mailing list. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 13:51:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1E316A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from www.wcborstel.nl (wcborstel.demon.nl [82.161.134.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC68943D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:51:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jorn@wcborstel.nl) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.2.110]) by www.wcborstel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1838693; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:51:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40D6E7D0.1060904@wcborstel.nl> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:51:12 +0200 From: Jorn Argelo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <200406211448.16949.axel.gruner@suedfactoring.de> <16598.58522.668591.675785@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <16598.58522.668591.675785@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT does not build (annotate.texi) CONFIRMED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 13:51:25 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: >Axel S. Gruner writes: > > > >> i got some problems building CURRENT maybe someone can tell me >> what the problem is: >> >> > > I'm having the same issue: > >gzip -cn gasp.info > gasp.info.gz >ln -sf /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/doc/all-cfg.texi gdb-cfg.texi >echo "@set GDBVN `sed q /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/gdb/gdb/version.in`" > GDBvn.texi >make: don't know how to make annotate.texi. Stop >*** Error code 2 > >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils. >*** Error code 1 > > > (System info: > > FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 19 13:47:37 EDT 2004 > Source tree updated every midnight EDT.) > > > > Robert Huff > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >. > > > Umm, guys, I don't want to be rude, but why don't mail it to the CURRENT folks? I mean, that's what the mailing list is for :) Cheers, Jorn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:08:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4643F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:08:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (shadow2.eagle.ca [209.167.16.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3761043D58 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:08:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 56133 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2004 14:07:38 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by smtp.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.027737 secs); 21 Jun 2004 14:07:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.ibctech.ca) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 14:07:38 -0000 Received: from 209.167.16.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user steve@ibctech.ca) by webmail.ibctech.ca with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4678.209.167.16.15.1087826858.squirrel@webmail.ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <006301c456d7$4fdc94f0$7200a8c0@c003179a><40D6D4DE.10609@zonnet.nl> <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:07:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Bill Moran" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:08:33 -0000 > I'm curious as to whether this is only my opinion, or if others feel the > same > way. I hope this thread in no way leads to a flame war, but I think this is a good discussion. In no way would I like to bash or flame anyone, but users who receive responses like this (albeit in this particular question, 'yes' was technically a proper answer), I believe that the user (particularily newbs) could quickly become very frustrated and pushed away as they may see it as a quick and dirty response and feel their question in some way was 'silly'. Note that I believe that the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked, but even those questions that are trivial to some of us deserve some insight. We must look beyond our own knowledge and remember what it was like for us when we first began the FBSD journey and realize that single word responses are certainly not going to help. Personally when I respond to a question, I try to put myself in the shoes of the poster, and try to at least give a little insight or direction to the question as if I asked it myself. Although as someone has already said, these replies are likely attempts to quickly help the user, they often mislead and discourage them instead. It's great that everyone likes to help, but we all should remember the importance that substance is key to aiding each other. Just my .02. No offence intended, and no one is perfect, we can only try our best to help. sb From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:12:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5287916A4DD for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:12:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D553743D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:12:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i5LEBhU07321; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:11:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200406211411.i5LEBhU07321@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: wmoran@potentialtech.com (Bill Moran) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:11:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> from "Bill Moran" at Jun 21, 2004 09:27:44 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Nico Meijer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:12:25 -0000 > > Nico Meijer wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple > > > sessions? > > > > Yes. > > I wanted to start a brief discussion about these kinds of answers to > questions. > > I've been seeing this quite a bit lately. I don't know if it's just one > person, > of if multiple folks have picked up on it. > > > This is not an answer to the question. It does not answer the question > and does > not contribute to the OPs knowledge of FreeBSD, nor does it contribute to the > list archives. It's also a violation of the rule against "me too" answers as > laid out in "How to Get the Best Results from FreeBSD-Questions". It doesn't > even serve to educate the OP on how to ask better questins. on the issue of the _short_ answer; In the case of this question, it is probably obvious that the poster needed more useful information - at least a pointer to some info. Then, it looks bad to just give a smart alec yes or whatever other less than useful reply. But, some of these questions - is FreeBSD really free, etc get frustrating because it is obvious that the poster didn't even read the first page of the web site let alone try and look for an answer. So, a few of the posted questions deserve a mere yes or no answer. - this from someone who could more often be accused of giving excessively long answers to even simple questions... ////jerry > > First off, there are actually two questions hidden in the post: "Can FreeBSD > act as a WTS?", and "can FreeBSD provide the same services as WTS?" Is "yes" > your answer to both of them? Because, if it is, I'd like to know which > software allows it to function as a WTS, since my searches have not found any > such software. > > This leads to the implied question of "what software provides the capability" > which (despite not being voice, directly) is pretty obvious. You've totally > ignored that question. You could say that "technically, he didn't ask" but it > boils down to just being rude. > > > I'm curious as to whether this is only my opinion, or if others feel the same > way. I don't think answers like this reflect well on FreeBSD or the FreeBSD > community. Short answers like "see 'man foo'" are appropriate, as they impart > some knowledge and tell the OP that his question is answered in the indicated > documentation, but this doesn't follow that template. > > I do feel that, althought Grog's document doesn't specifically chastise these > types of answers, that they are _not_ in the "spirit" of that document, and do > not serve the purpose of this mailing list. > > -- > Bill Moran > Potential Technologies > http://www.potentialtech.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:21:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B1116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:21:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C4C43D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:21:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1695FBA1E for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:21:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87607-09 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:21:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from janus.daycos.com (outbound.daycos.com [204.26.70.70]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40E9B9A8 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:21:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:21:13 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040621005632.5241.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406210921.13801.kirk@strauser.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at honeypot.net Subject: Re: ping command question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:21:34 -0000 On Sunday 2004-06-20 07:56 pm, adrian kok wrote: > I start from one ISP to ping other ISP That's *probably* the answer. The machine returning those pings may not be the one you think. For instance, if one of the machines is behind a NAT gateway, then the gateway may be returning the pings and not the host you think you're pinging. -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:33:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA0016A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD5F43D53 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum1c-102.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.179.102]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE3D69A42; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:33:16 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <20040621103316.1876a89f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200406211411.i5LEBhU07321@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <20040621092744.571f93db.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200406211411.i5LEBhU07321@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: nico.meijer@zonnet.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:18 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > Nico Meijer wrote: > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > > Can FreeBSD act like Windows Terminal Server, i.e. remote access, multiple > > > > sessions? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > I wanted to start a brief discussion about these kinds of answers to > > questions. > > > > I've been seeing this quite a bit lately. I don't know if it's just one > > person, > > of if multiple folks have picked up on it. > > > > > > This is not an answer to the question. It does not answer the question > > and does > > not contribute to the OPs knowledge of FreeBSD, nor does it contribute to the > > list archives. It's also a violation of the rule against "me too" answers as > > laid out in "How to Get the Best Results from FreeBSD-Questions". It doesn't > > even serve to educate the OP on how to ask better questins. > > on the issue of the _short_ answer; In the case of this question, it is > probably obvious that the poster needed more useful information - at least > a pointer to some info. Then, it looks bad to just give a smart alec yes > or whatever other less than useful reply. I'm wondering if these short "yes" answers aren't all smart-alec, but some of them are possibly an attempt to answer before anyone else. I know, I've seen a question I could answer, made sure it hasn't already been answered (to avoid unnecessary list traffic) then crafted a carefully worded, helpful answer, only to find 5 others appear at the same time as mine. Kind of makes one feel like he's wasting his time. But it's not an excuse to send terse, essentally useless answers. > But, some of these questions - is FreeBSD really free, etc get frustrating > because it is obvious that the poster didn't even read the first page of > the web site let alone try and look for an answer. So, a few of the > posted questions deserve a mere yes or no answer. I disagree, as Grog's document clearly states: "if you can't think of anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" and I consider that list policy. I understand your frustration. As someone who's donated a bit to the doc project, and can only _imagine_ how much effort others have put in to the high-quality docs that FreeBSD has, I get annoyed when people won't read it as well. But I just suck it up and either post a pointer to the docs, or delete it without answering. > - this from someone who could more often be accused of giving excessively > long answers to even simple questions... > > ////jerry > > > > > First off, there are actually two questions hidden in the post: "Can FreeBSD > > act as a WTS?", and "can FreeBSD provide the same services as WTS?" Is "yes" > > your answer to both of them? Because, if it is, I'd like to know which > > software allows it to function as a WTS, since my searches have not found any > > such software. > > > > This leads to the implied question of "what software provides the capability" > > which (despite not being voice, directly) is pretty obvious. You've totally > > ignored that question. You could say that "technically, he didn't ask" but it > > boils down to just being rude. > > > > > > I'm curious as to whether this is only my opinion, or if others feel the same > > way. I don't think answers like this reflect well on FreeBSD or the FreeBSD > > community. Short answers like "see 'man foo'" are appropriate, as they impart > > some knowledge and tell the OP that his question is answered in the indicated > > documentation, but this doesn't follow that template. > > > > I do feel that, althought Grog's document doesn't specifically chastise these > > types of answers, that they are _not_ in the "spirit" of that document, and do > > not serve the purpose of this mailing list. > > > > -- > > Bill Moran > > Potential Technologies > > http://www.potentialtech.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:33:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924F716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18ECE43D45 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.122.191]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 6362415 for multiple; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:20:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:33:51 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Edd Message-Id: <20040621093351.6110252a@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> References: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:33:57 -0000 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:52:45 +0100 Edd wrote: > > Hi there, > Maybe the question I am asking is how do I burn a dvd using open > source. But I know that dvd's ar encoded in MPEG2. Apparently > ffmpeg can encode mpeg2, but I havent been able to get mencoder > (compiled against ffmpeg) to work for me. Anyone have any tips? AFAIK mencoder can just kick out stuff to a avi container and not mpeg2 streams. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:36:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AA916A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:36:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE7343D48 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:36:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i5LEa9107410; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:36:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200406211436.i5LEa9107410@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: lwellis@mindspring.com (LW Ellis) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:36:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <001701c4575d$edb47c20$0200a8c0@LLAPTOP> from "LW Ellis" at Jun 21, 2004 01:04:00 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Silly Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:36:12 -0000 > > Ok gang don't be to rough. > I am a long time windows user, > and am used to running disk maintenance. > Scandisk, defrag, etc > Do I need to run something similar on FreeBSD? > or not? Not those, but you should set yourself up a nice backup script/routine and dump(8) everything to something that can be removed and stored elsewhere - if what you have on the machine is at all valuable to you. Otherwise, FreeBSD doesn't need those other types of maintenance. I suppose you could set up an automated upgrade that runs and downloads the latest on everything and builds it. Some people even do that daily. But, you don't really need to do it that much unless you are doing development work. You could also learn some about security and run various checks on the system and the net in low use times. But, that just tends to make the person who does that more paranoid and obsessive. So, to avoid shrink expenses, probably you should go easy on that too. So, I guess, just do backups and enjoy your weekends. ////jerry > I let my machine run 24/7 and have received the weekend reports > (which I found fascinating.) > If I need to run such apps, which one in the > ports do I chose? > > Thanx all > > Later, > Leon > A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. > Sir Winston Churchill > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:45:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32FD16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67B1243D2F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsdjunkie@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 72so40141rne for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.96.29 with SMTP id t29mr34162rnb; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <32ab229c04062107454feb9354@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:45:55 -0600 From: Gordon Freeman To: Joey Mingrone In-Reply-To: <200406201305.22971.joey@mingrone.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20040619013823.GA13721@turing.cs.hmc.edu> <200406201305.22971.joey@mingrone.org> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: "Julian M. Mason" Subject: Re: Bittorrent not in ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:45:56 -0000 Try: /usr/ports/net/ctorrent /usr/ports/net/py-torrent /usr/ports/net/qtorrent /usr/ports/net/torrentsniff I am currenlty using py-torrent. But I will be taking a look at the other two (ctorrent and qtorrent) shortly. On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:05:22 -0300, Joey Mingrone wrote: > > ..or see: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=torrent&stype=all > > There are a few different options for torrent clients. > > On June 18, 2004 22:38, Julian M. Mason wrote: > > ...is bittorrent really not in ports? > > > > my usual > > # cd /usr/ports ; make search name="bittorrent" > > and > > # whereis bittorrent > > > > turned up nothing; nor did a wandering around /usr/ports/net. > > > > Do I have to actually go and get something myself? > > > > > > --Mac > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:50:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19516A4D0 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:50:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A5943D4C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-240-162.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.240.162]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6A25690A; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:50:25 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20040621093351.6110252a@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> References: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> <20040621093351.6110252a@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087829336.2417.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:48:56 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" cc: Edd Subject: Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:50:29 -0000 i use transcode under linux to re-encode movies into different standards i think you can do the same under bsd ive burned mpeg2 as svcd before using vcdimager prob i have is producing a dvd standard file system also would like to know if there is a way to shrink dvds down to 4gig in bsd arden On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 15:33, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:52:45 +0100 > Edd wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > Maybe the question I am asking is how do I burn a dvd using open > > source. But I know that dvd's ar encoded in MPEG2. Apparently > > ffmpeg can encode mpeg2, but I havent been able to get mencoder > > (compiled against ffmpeg) to work for me. Anyone have any tips? > > AFAIK mencoder can just kick out stuff to a avi container and not > mpeg2 streams. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:55:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384F616A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:55:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fe1.cluster1.echolabs.net (mail.atlanticbb.net [216.52.118.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BBB43D2D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:55:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tommoyer@atlanticbb.net) X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: Scanned by MPP/ClamAV/SpamAssassin Received: from [68.114.85.228] (HELO scooby0) by fe1.cluster1.echolabs.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with SMTP id 3119675 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c4579f$d750f480$6501a8c0@scooby0> From: "Tom Moyer" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:55:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Audio? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:55:17 -0000 I am setting up a new computer and the motherboard I am using has = integrated audio. It says it is Realtek ALC850 does anyone know if it = is supported by FreeBSD? If so, what driver should I use? The = motherboard is the Asus P4P800-E Deluxe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:56:07 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9635116A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EFA43D4C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i5LEu2S07515; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:56:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200406211456.i5LEu2S07515@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl (Alex de Kruijff) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:56:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20040620204524.GA907@alex.lan> from "Alex de Kruijff" at Jun 20, 2004 10:45:24 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: eyesonly@xs4all.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:56:07 -0000 > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:41:53PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 MB hard > > > disk. > > > According to the handbook, 250 MB should suffice for text mode only. > > > However, both the "User" and (retried) "Minimal" distributions left me > > > with no space in /usr > > > I used the default partitioning (entire disk) and said "No" to the ports > > > and linux compatibility prompts. > > > > > > Assuming that the defaults are optimized for larger disks, how would I > > > best divide the available space? > > > > With that little disk space, I would be inclined to make it all > > just one root (/) partition - with a bit of swap. You might not > > even be able to have a swap as big as memory with no more disk than > > that, but try for a swap of memory size or at least 100 MB or so > > and the rest in /. > > > > I think FreeBSD has grown since they made those claims of 250 MB > > being enough for a minimum. You might be able to cram it in, > > but would have little room for doing anything. > > That is realy a bad idee. > > / is supposted to be small to limit the change that something > irriversible happens to it during a crash > /tmp can be mounted so that it gets a real power boost > > There are many other reason why not to do this. I can't think of them > this quickly. We ain't talking a commercial grade server operation here. With this small a disk, the more space you dead-end by consigning it to a file system that isn't getting used the more you limit what you can do -- in this case. I would not do this if I had lots of disk, but... Actually, some of the heavy hitters out there say they have been leaning toward all / disk partitioning + swap, of course. ////jerry > > -- > Alex > > Articles based on solutions that I use: > http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 14:57:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42AB16A4CF; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:57:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3472943D55; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:57:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from aldan.algebra.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5LEvaFk033430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:57:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by aldan.algebra.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id i5LEvYf8033429; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:57:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin To: Julian Elischer Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:57:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7whJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: Matthew Dillon cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read vs. mmap (or io vs. page faults) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:57:48 -0000 --Boundary-00=_bdv1AQaDWhKkjZm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 20 June 2004 08:16 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: = On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Matthew Dillon wrote: [...] = > It is usually a bad idea to try to populate the page table with = > all resident pages associated with the a memory mapping, because = > mmap() is often used to map huge files... [...] = pre-faulting is best done by a worker thread or child process, or it = will just slow you down.. Read is also used for large files sometimes, and never tries to prefetch the whole file at once. Why can't the same smarts/heuristics be employed by the page-fault handling code -- especially, if we are so proud of our unified caching? If anything mmap/madvise provide the kernel with _more_ information than read -- kernel just does not use it, it seems. According to my tests (`fgrep string /huge/file' vs. `fgrep --mmap string /huge/file') the total CPU time is much less with mmap. But sometimes the total "wall clock" time is longer with itj because the CPU is underutilized, when using the mmap method. 4.8-stable on Pentium2-400MHz mmap: 21.507u 11.472s 1:27.53 37.6% 62+276k 99+0io 44736pf+0w read: 10.619u 23.814s 1:17.67 44.3% 62+274k 11255+0io 0pf+0w recent -current on dual P2 Xeon-450MHz (mmap WINS -- SMP?) mmap: 12.482u 12.872s 2:28.70 17.0% 74+298k 23+0io 46522pf+0w read: 7.255u 16.366s 3:27.07 11.4% 70+283k 44437+0io 7pf+0w recent -current on a Centrino-laptop P4-1GHz (NO win at all) mmap: 4.197u 3.920s 2:07.57 6.3% 65+284k 63+0io 45568pf+0w read: 3.965u 4.265s 1:50.26 7.4% 67+291k 13131+0io 17pf+0w Linux 2.4.20-30.9bigmem dual P4-3GHz (with a different file) mmap: 2.280u 4.800s 1:13.39 9.6% 0+0k 0+0io 512434pf+0w read: 1.630u 2.820s 0:08.89 50.0% 0+0k 0+0io 396pf+0w The attached md5-computing program is more CPU consuming than fgrep. It wins with mmap even on the "sceptical" Centrino-laptop -- presumably, because MD5_Update is not interrupted as much and remains in the instruction cache: read: 22.024u 8.418s 1:28.44 34.4% 5+166k 10498+0io 4pf+0w mmap: 21.428u 3.086s 1:23.88 29.2% 5+170k 40+0io 19649pf+0w Once mmap-handling is improved, all sorts of whole-file operations (bzip2, gzip, md5, sha1) can be made faster... -mi --Boundary-00=_bdv1AQaDWhKkjZm-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:08:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B4716A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:08:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EC343D39 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:08:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-240-162.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.240.162]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867325624D for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:08:15 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-SsUriGrKewIUlzR0s/Ih" Message-Id: <1087830405.2417.9.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:06:46 +0100 Subject: Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:08:19 -0000 --=-SsUriGrKewIUlzR0s/Ih Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --=-SsUriGrKewIUlzR0s/Ih Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Forwarded message - Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by jupiter.nildram.co.uk (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i5LF3vG0018092 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:03:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38E735723C; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405A316A4E0; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:03:29 +0000 (GMT) Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E19516A4D0 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:50:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A5943D4C for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 14:50:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-240-162.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.240.162]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B6A25690A; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:50:25 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20040621093351.6110252a@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> References: <200406210752.i5L7qju19087@server1.web-mania.com> <20040621093351.6110252a@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087829336.2417.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:48:56 +0100 Cc: Edd Subject: Re: Encoding MPEG2 using open source software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i use transcode under linux to re-encode movies into different standards i think you can do the same under bsd ive burned mpeg2 as svcd before using vcdimager prob i have is producing a dvd standard file system also would like to know if there is a way to shrink dvds down to 4gig in bsd arden On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 15:33, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 08:52:45 +0100 > Edd wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > Maybe the question I am asking is how do I burn a dvd using open > > source. But I know that dvd's ar encoded in MPEG2. Apparently > > ffmpeg can encode mpeg2, but I havent been able to get mencoder > > (compiled against ffmpeg) to work for me. Anyone have any tips? > > AFAIK mencoder can just kick out stuff to a avi container and not > mpeg2 streams. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=-SsUriGrKewIUlzR0s/Ih-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:11:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F133E16A4CF for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:11:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D4D43D58 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:11:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from collector@swedehost.com) Received: by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id AB07D37E87; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.183]) by av9-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0AD37E42; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from odin.swedehost.com (h171n2fls33o804.telia.com [217.209.211.171]) by smtp2-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8837737E47; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from thor.swedehost.com (thor.swedehost.com [192.168.0.10]) by odin.swedehost.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5LFBaHA020216; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:11:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from collector@swedehost.com) From: Andropos Organization: The Valhalla Project To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:11:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <000a01c4579f$d750f480$6501a8c0@scooby0> In-Reply-To: <000a01c4579f$d750f480$6501a8c0@scooby0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406211711.33318.collector@swedehost.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 cc: Tom Moyer Subject: Re: Audio? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:11:35 -0000 On Monday 21 June 2004 16.55, Tom Moyer wrote: > I am setting up a new computer and the motherboard I am using has > integrated audio. It says it is Realtek ALC850 does anyone know if it is > supported by FreeBSD? If so, what driver should I use? The motherboard is > the Asus P4P800-E Deluxe. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ------------------------ Hi Tom. Just a wild guess. In your kernel, add " device pcm # Enable soundcard " without the quotes offcourse. Hope It helped. -- Best Regards Andropos Demaggio collector@swedehost.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:19:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D95016A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B9243D39 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i5LFJWT07676; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:19:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200406211519.i5LFJWT07676@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: wmoran@potentialtech.com (Bill Moran) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:19:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20040621103316.1876a89f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> from "Bill Moran" at Jun 21, 2004 10:33:16 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: nico.meijer@zonnet.nl cc: Jerry McAllister cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Overly brief answers (was Re: Terminal Server) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:44 -0000 > > > > I wanted to start a brief discussion about these kinds of answers to > > > questions. > > > > > > I've been seeing this quite a bit lately. I don't know if it's just one > > > person, > > > of if multiple folks have picked up on it. > > > > > > > > > This is not an answer to the question. It does not answer the question > > > and does > > > not contribute to the OPs knowledge of FreeBSD, nor does it contribute to the > > > list archives. It's also a violation of the rule against "me too" answers as > > > laid out in "How to Get the Best Results from FreeBSD-Questions". It doesn't > > > even serve to educate the OP on how to ask better questins. > > > > on the issue of the _short_ answer; In the case of this question, it is > > probably obvious that the poster needed more useful information - at least > > a pointer to some info. Then, it looks bad to just give a smart alec yes > > or whatever other less than useful reply. > > I'm wondering if these short "yes" answers aren't all smart-alec, but some of > them are possibly an attempt to answer before anyone else. > > I know, I've seen a question I could answer, made sure it hasn't already been > answered (to avoid unnecessary list traffic) then crafted a carefully worded, > helpful answer, only to find 5 others appear at the same time as mine. Kind > of makes one feel like he's wasting his time. But it's not an excuse to send > terse, essentally useless answers. Yes, that has happened to me sometimes and unfortunately (fortunately for the questioner) some of the other responses were significantly better than mine. Oh well. Anyway, I guess, I don't mind seeing several responses to a question, even if they are essentially the same. First, they tend to each have a little bit different tack and give different/additional referrences. Plus, having several people independantly agree adds a bit of confidence. Something missing in the typical newbies world. That is a little different than strictly me too replies. > > But, some of these questions - is FreeBSD really free, etc get frustrating > > because it is obvious that the poster didn't even read the first page of > > the web site let alone try and look for an answer. So, a few of the > > posted questions deserve a mere yes or no answer. > > I disagree, as Grog's document clearly states: "if you can't think of anything > nice to say, don't say anything at all" and I consider that list policy. I agree with that. I take the time at least to type out the suggestion to check the web page, or whatever rather than just say yes or no. But, I can sympathize with the person who does give the smart alec answer. > I understand your frustration. As someone who's donated a bit to the doc > project, and can only _imagine_ how much effort others have put in to the > high-quality docs that FreeBSD has, I get annoyed when people won't read it > as well. But I just suck it up and either post a pointer to the docs, or > delete it without answering. A prophet goes without honor in his home or something like that. Yup. I also sympathize with the newbie - more like empathize with the newbie. A person tends to start from nowhere and doesn't even have a clue about what is a good question let alone what to do about it. Seeing all the new language and jargon and even worse, initials that AFAIK are commonly used in the discussions and even the documentation can make the situation even worse. There are no stupid questions. (But, there are lazy ones) ////jerry > > > - this from someone who could more often be accused of giving excessively > > long answers to even simple questions... > > > > ////jerry > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:19:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C95116A4D9 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1A543D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from 10.0.0.6 (81-6-240-162.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [81.6.240.162]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4553D25549B for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:19:52 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1087831102.2421.21.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4-8mdk Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:18:23 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: package managment X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:19:56 -0000 hi all I'm just getting to know my way round BSD now Ive got my box running and am happy with it i want to make it more useful. on my Linux boxes i set up ftp sources of applications (most of which i now keep a local copy.) and then just ask the package management tool to install it as long as all the deps are in my list it then dose it all for me. I'm guessing this is similar in bsd ? 1st question is, is there a list somewhere of available sites 2nd is how do i point my box at them 3rd what is the command to tell it to install them thanks in advance arden From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:20:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3AD16A4EB for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:20:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (shadow2.eagle.ca [209.167.16.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A8243D2F for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:20:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 64405 invoked by uid 1003); 21 Jun 2004 15:20:01 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by smtp.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamscan: 0.65. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.490751 secs); 21 Jun 2004 15:20:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.ibctech.ca) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.ibctech.ca with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 15:20:00 -0000 Received: from 209.167.16.15 (SquirrelMail authenticated user steve@ibctech.ca) by webmail.ibctech.ca with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4834.209.167.16.15.1087831200.squirrel@webmail.ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <200406211456.i5LEu2S07515@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <20040620204524.GA907@alex.lan> from "Alex de Kruijff" at Jun 20,2004 10:45:24 PM <200406211456.i5LEu2S07515@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:20:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steve Bertrand" To: "Jerry McAllister" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:20:27 -0000 > Actually, some of the heavy hitters out there say they have been > leaning toward all / disk partitioning + swap, of course. A little OT, but although it has been advised over and over that you should never use a / only system, in some cases I have found it very useful. It is exceptionally easy to make complete backups (clones) of file systems, great for if you ever think you need to expand the size of your disk and easy to restore from tape to a new hard disk. Everything in one place, with minimal disklabel editing. On a heavily used production system, I wouldn't do this, but on firewalls and the like it's great. Especially when using flash memory cards as disk drives and need to 'flash' the card with the new file system image. Steve > > ////jerry > >> >> -- >> Alex >> >> Articles based on solutions that I use: >> http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:21:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE4F16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:21:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (smtp-out2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6295543D31 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:21:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from eyesonly@xs4all.nl) Received: from alden-0b614aab4 (revelation.xs4all.nl [194.109.220.1]) by smtp-out2.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5LFLFTf078640; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:21:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <200406211721280381.49B2076B@smtp.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <16598.3143.768397.119576@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <200406202130310201.456FADCF@smtp.xs4all.nl> <16598.3143.768397.119576@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (4) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 17:21:28 +0200 From: eyesonly@xs4all.nl To: roberthuff@rcn.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partition sizes for small harddisk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:21:17 -0000 On 20-06-2004 at 18:14 Robert Huff wrote: >eyesonly@xs4all.nl writes: >> I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.10 on an older computer with a 852 >> MB hard disk. > First, a question: what do you want this machine to do? Hi, thanks! Fortunately, no special requirements at this stage. I simply want to use it, so it needs an OS - and FreeBSD certainly beats= DOS :-) > 852 MB should be enough. Go with a "Custom" installation, and >you'll need to be utterly ruthless about not installing unneeded >distribution sets. "Custom" installation scares me a little, as I don't really know what I'm= doing yet. I will try and read docs and probably start over lots of times (which is= fine with me). When I really get stuck can always ask again :-) regards Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 15:31:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D6716A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:31:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (fuf.mingrone.org [204.251.2.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CDF43D55 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:31:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joey@mingrone.org) Received: (qmail 59881 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2004 15:31:09 -0000 Received: from fuf.mingrone.org (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (204.251.2.34) by fuf.mingrone.org with SMTP; 21 Jun 2004 15:31:09 -0000 From: Joey Mingrone To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:31:02 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-UID: 18 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200406211231.10406.joey@mingrone.org> Subject: USB problems after upgrading from 4.9 to 4.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 15:31:20 -0000 =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, After an upgrade from 4.9 to 4.10 the following messages appear during boot= up: uhci0: port 0x9800-0x981f irq 5 at device 17.2 = on=20 pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: port error, restarting port 1 uhub0: port error, giving up port 1 uhub0: port error, restarting port 2 uhub0: port error, giving up port 2 uhci1: port 0x9400-0x941f irq 5 at device 17.3 = on=20 pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: port error, restarting port 1 uhub1: port error, giving up port 1 uhub1: port error, restarting port 2 uhub1: port error, giving up port 2 uhci2: port 0x9000-0x901f irq 5 at device 17.4 = on=20 pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: port error, restarting port 1 uhub2: port error, giving up port 1 uhub2: port error, restarting port 2 uhub2: port error, giving up port 2 orm0: