From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Sep 3 17:09:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666936789CA for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 17:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) Received: from pmta21.teksavvy.com (pmta21.teksavvy.com [76.10.157.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.teksavvy.com", Issuer "DigiCert SHA2 High Assurance Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H1PRN36P0z3kjc for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 17:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) IronPort-SDR: RpG5J/FUV52IWlQW82e2Kc8brBqo2QYcAgocQy4uDJSftWSew7JJLzuBE4tj2TFqAAbtBYyj66 5IFR+EbPap4A== IronPort-HdrOrdr: =?us-ascii?q?A9a23=3ADqUxyaqfRpyhWnDMr5/BQuEaV5obeYIsim?= =?us-ascii?q?QD101hICG9Afbo8PxG+85rsyMc6QxhPE3I9urhBEDtex3hHNtOkOws1NSZLW?= =?us-ascii?q?vbUQmTTb2KhLGKq1bd8m/FmdK1vp0MT0ERMrHN5BRB/KXHCDnTKbwdKcG8gd?= =?us-ascii?q?iVbPnlvg5QcT0=3D?= X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2ENAACUVTJh/0StpUVaGwEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BBQEBARIBAQEDAwEBAUAJgTwGAQEBCwFYgx8BhTOBR4ZdYIVhVgEBAQMGgRQ?= =?us-ascii?q?xOAGbS4F8CwEBAQEBAQEBAQlBBAEBhG4Cgj8mNAkOAQIEAQEBEgEBAQUBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQYEAgKBIIV1hkwBBSMVHjMLGAICJgICVxMIAQGCbYJiJqxJgTGBAYQphU4?= =?us-ascii?q?TfSoBjXmBQIEQgTwMgnY+hRGCSoJkBIoIkxyOHIIGm3gIgy2eSgYULJVjkSK?= =?us-ascii?q?7Zw2BYYIVH1yDL08ZD45XjjUlA2gCBgsBAQMJkgsBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2ENAACUVTJh/0StpUVaGwEBAQEBAQEBBQEBARIBAQEDA?= =?us-ascii?q?wEBAUAJgTwGAQEBCwFYgx8BhTOBR4ZdYIVhVgEBAQMGgRQxOAGbS4F8CwEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQlBBAEBhG4Cgj8mNAkOAQIEAQEBEgEBAQUBAQEBAQYEAgKBIIV1h?= =?us-ascii?q?kwBBSMVHjMLGAICJgICVxMIAQGCbYJiJqxJgTGBAYQphU4TfSoBjXmBQIEQg?= =?us-ascii?q?TwMgnY+hRGCSoJkBIoIkxyOHIIGm3gIgy2eSgYULJVjkSK7Zw2BYYIVH1yDL?= =?us-ascii?q?08ZD45XjjUlA2gCBgsBAQMJkgsBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.85,265,1624334400"; d="scan'208";a="169212569" Received: from 69-165-173-68.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO mail.razorfever.net) ([69.165.173.68]) by smtp12.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 03 Sep 2021 13:09:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.33] (bock.razorfever.net [192.168.0.33]) by mail.razorfever.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 183H9TOF000853 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 2021 13:09:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from 482254ac@razorfever.net) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.razorfever.net: Host bock.razorfever.net [192.168.0.33] claimed to be [192.168.0.33] Subject: Re: FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p9 trim: open failed: /dev/ada0: Operation not permitted To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "Derek (freebsd lists)" <482254ac@razorfever.net> Message-ID: <47d0f250-a47c-bbe0-2875-4f42f4464fcc@chezmarcotte.ca> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 13:09:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, FROM_STARTS_WITH_NUMS,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mail.razorfever.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H1PRN36P0z3kjc X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 482254ac@razorfever.net has no SPF policy when checking 76.10.157.36) smtp.mailfrom=482254ac@razorfever.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[razorfever.net]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5645, ipnet:76.10.128.0/19, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[76.10.157.36:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 17:09:37 -0000 On 2021-08-29 10:26 p.m., David Christensen wrote: > I would like to trim the SSD, but trim(8) is not happy: > > 2021-08-29 19:22:36 toor@f1 ~ > # trim -f /dev/ada0 > trim /dev/ada0 offset 0 length 60022480896 > trim: open failed: /dev/ada0: Operation not permitted > I don't know if it's still relevant to the thread, but I feel like what you are encountering here relates to what you are trying to trim. It feels like if you trim the "raw device", the system wouldn't know what is in use, and what isn't. I feel like you should be trying to trim a filesystem on the device, rather than the device itself, as the utility would be able to determine what is currently allocated with the filesystem data. It might be that a raw device could be trimmed, but perhaps there's some safety there to stop it from wiping a device that is backing a mounted filesystem. Something to look at? Derek