Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:11:01 -0500 From: Brandon Gooch <jamesbrandongooch@gmail.com> To: Henry Olyer <henry.olyer@gmail.com> Cc: "Michael D. Norwick" <mnorwick@centurytel.net>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE Installation success Message-ID: <AANLkTi=e9=NamaAKA=vDGAw0r1Py4A7zvAE15hNiP5vo@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindPfROtkvu44zuFXC7DQ4Jxg%2BK_vKcje9=vuj3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4CC61FF7.9050605@centurytel.net> <AANLkTindPfROtkvu44zuFXC7DQ4Jxg%2BK_vKcje9=vuj3@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Henry Olyer <henry.olyer@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem here is that it shouldn't take so much effort to get this > going. =A0But I know it does. =A0And I don't blame the FreeBSD team. > > I do blame the organizational infra-structure that exists. =A0ie., we sho= uld > have scripts that describe every aspect of a computer, so that such scrip= ts > can be mechanically read and a configuration built. > > We do ./configure for software we install. =A0Same thing, but for all asp= ects > of the hardware. =A0The present "configure" logic covers the OS and the > installed software, we need to do this for hardware. > > I notice that freeBSD download's and installs trails Linux. =A0That's oka= y. > FreeBSD is so much better, and in so many ways, too. > > Nothing I've seen in Linux lands comes close to the "sysinstall" command = or > the plainly superior organization of FreeBSD. =A0What I'm trying to encou= rage > is that we, as a group, work on our infra-structures, like strengthing th= e > already high level of organization we have in sysinstall. > > How about a query program that examines a machine. =A0Is this practical? > Something like the automated X-install process that makes it unnecessary = to > set the horizontal and vertical frequencies ourselves (which we used to h= ave > to do.) =A0But not for X, for the sound card, for as much as possible. > > > > > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Michael D. Norwick <mnorwick@centurytel.= net >> wrote: > >> Good Day; >> >> It is with some pleasure that I have finally succeeded in building an >> operative workstation with a custom kernel and world, =A0Xorg 1.7.5, >> KDE4-4.5.2 from ports, most common network applications as well as Firef= ox3, >> and Thunderbird 3.1.5. =A0The machine is an older Dell GX270 P4 2.4 GHz = PC >> with 3G of ram and an ATI Radeon video adapter. >> This install has not been without it's trials. >> 4 weeks ago I backed up all my data and reformatted from Debian 'lenny' = to >> GPT/ZFS/8.1-RELEASE. =A0The next two weeks did not go so well. =A0While = I tried >> hard to get ZFS formatted drives to work reliably, intermittent unexplai= ned >> core dumps with reboots gave me cause for concern. =A0I finally reinstal= led >> msdos boot records and formatted the drives UFS. =A0That install has las= ted 2 >> more weeks. =A0I liked ZFS v14 and would like to try it again when I get= more >> current hardware with more ram and SATA drives. >> My next challenge was building KDE4, Firefox, and Thunderbird from ports= . >> =A0KDE4 and friends (QT4) took days on this machine to build, install an= d >> setup. =A0I initially installed the ports tree using portsnap but was ha= ving >> so much trouble building the mozilla stuff from ports I moved to cvsup a= nd >> portupgrade. =A0This is also what I used to install the kernel and base = source >> tree. =A0Several iterations of make - clean and deinstall/reinstall alon= g with >> cvsup'ing ports a couple of times finally got me to a working browser an= d >> mail client. >> I have had a time getting Flash working with Firefox. =A0I have not yet = got >> the plugin working in Firefox but Opera, using linux-f10 allows my kids = view >> their on-line home school lessons. =A0Audio was somewhat of a challenge = to get >> sound from an AC97 on-board audio chipset. =A0snd_hda was the module tha= t >> eventually provided the needed audio driver for this chipset. =A0I think= I >> forgot what configuring this stuff was like during my 'hamm', 'bo', and >> 'slink', debian days. >> >> My thanks to the entire FreeBSD/KDE development team on allowing me to >> experience the fruit of their efforts. =A0I still like turning the knobs >> myself. =A0I'll keep reading the manuals. =A0:) >> >> Michael Have either of you had a look at PC-BSD? http://www.pcbsd.org/ It's getting better with each release...oh, and it's based on FreeBSD too := ) -Brandon
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