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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
To:        Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
Cc:        Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, Mark Newton <newton@internode.com.au>, crypt0genic@ecad.org, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: (forw)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.990712132403.2595D-100000@current1.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9907122036060.58023-100000@salmon.nlsystems.com>

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On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Mark Newton wrote:
> > > 
> > > Karl Pielorz wrote:
> > > 
> > >  > Yes, a nice, effective - and simply way of replacing syscall's on FreeBSD...
> > >  > Some might say a little too 'simple'?
> > > 
> > > Garbage.  You can do this on any OS, whether it supports loadable
> > > modules or not, if you've managed to win sufficient privileges through
> > > some other means.
> > 
> > I was actually leaning towards that... My boss had kittens here (we have 12
> > FreeBSD boxes running the show now), until I'd explained it to him... If
> > syscall's need to be replaced, they need to be replaced - and if they are
> > replaceable ... (I'll stop there) :)
> > 
> > The article (from what I can remember) didn't actually go out of it's way to
> > say you have to have be root to load the modules in the first place :) - Maybe
> > it's warrants some kind of response page putting up somewhere? - this is also
> > getting off topic for -hackers :(...
> 
> It was mentioned when describing the conditions for allowing the file load
> (securelevel == 0 && uid == 0).

which suggests that most important servers should be run 
whith  securelevel > 0





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