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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:31:29 +0000
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>
To:        Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
Cc:        Greywolf <greywolf@starwolf.com>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Jeremy Lea <reg@FreeBSD.ORG>, Kris Kirby <kris@catonic.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did NetBSD and FreeBSD diverge?
Message-ID:  <20010119153129.A48976@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <v04220803b68dd677c22c@[10.0.1.2]>; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:06:49PM %2B0100
References:  <Pine.NEB.4.21.0101182302040.583-100000@starwolf.com> <v04220803b68dd677c22c@[10.0.1.2]>

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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
> 	Speaking as a relative newcomer to FreeBSD, I definitely feel 
> that there is a certain amount of hazing that goes on.  If you want 
> to contribute to the project, you're expected to write code.  

Manifestly not true.  Write new documentation or help improve existing
documentation.

That's probably the fastest track to getting a commit bit as well.

> At the 
> very least, if you want to contribute to the project, you're expected 
> to be able to read code, so that you can point out what is wrong, 
> although you might not be able to fix it.  If you can't even read 
> code, you're most definitely a second-class (or even third-class) 
> citizen.

Having been at both BSD conventions, Usenix, and a number of other
conferences, and having met most or all of the committer base at some
point or another, I have yet to meet a committer that considers the
documentation team to be n-class citizens.

I have seen several instances where someone has approached the project with 
a problem, and has been unable to work with the project to resolve the
problem (be it code related or documentation related).  I have yet to
see an instance where this hasn't been because the submitter has not
completely grasped the fact that the project members are volunteers, and
that, at that particular time, they may not have sufficient spare time
to deal with the problem.

N
-- 
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