From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 21: 2:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from archive.e-u-a.net (rrcs-midsouth-24-199-181-242.biz.rr.com [24.199.181.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619CB37B400 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from armageddon (24-197-196-76.man.mn.charter.com [24.197.196.76]) by archive.e-u-a.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g5Q3sB5n007038; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:54:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ecrist@adtechintegrated.com) From: "Eric F Crist" To: "'Peter Leftwich'" , "'Sanjay Bhattacharya'" Cc: "'FreeBSD LIST'" Subject: RE: Long live The Penguin!!!! [ipfw vs Linux] Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: <002501c21cc6$4502f800$6501a8c0@armageddon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20020625231522.J46730-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I personally have not had any problems with ipfw. The amount of features and capabilities is what makes it so complicated. Granted, it could be a little easier to understand. It's worked for me and I, personally, don't have a problem understanding the configuration and use of it. It actually resembles the firewalling capabilities of Cisco's IOS. Eric F Crist President/Sys Admin AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc http://www.adtechintegrated.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Leftwich Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:19 PM To: Sanjay Bhattacharya Cc: FreeBSD LIST Subject: Re: Long live The Penguin!!!! [ipfw vs Linux] On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Sanjay Bhattacharya wrote: > Please guys (the anti Penguin lobby), relax. I've been making my bread and > butter out of Linux for the last 3 years. And I am a Sun Certified System > Administrator. Still I've chosen my work field to be Linux. Why? Because I > am in love with the penguin. As for me I haven't found anything that's > drastically wrong as it always happens with Winblows. On the contrary there > are revolutionary changes in 2.4 series kernels. One that has made my life a > lot easier is certianly netfilter/iptables. And as for the libc problem, a > little caution always saved my from big hassles. I am sort of a newbie to > FreeBSD. But one thing I dislike about it is ipfw. Its so complicated. In > contrast iptables in Linux is a pleasure to use. Apart from that upgrading > Linux kernel is an easy task. I always patch my kernel with the latest > updates and then I compile it. It runs like a dream. And believe me, I > haven't faced a single problem in the last three years. But one thing I > always avoid is rpm's. You might call me an old timer but I've my faith on > the sources. And the configure/make/make install/ has always given me what I > wanted. And to say nothing of the device recognition capabilities of the > Linux kernel. I thank my lucky stars again and again that I don't have to > bother about the HCL, thanks to Linux. So I think the Penguin is doing a > great job. And under no circumstances it is inferior to the daemon. I want > to conclude with the slogan ..."In Penguin I trust". > rgds, > Sanjay Sanjay, I'm not really aware of an "Anti-Penguin lobby" herein, nor am I understanding of your motives in posting here. Is there a question in all that poorly-worded and grammatically-challenged drivel? :) j/k [And yeah! *sighs* ipfw is a bee-yatsch isn't it?! Kept me away from it.] -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message