From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 8 16:33:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B210615B7 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2087384F03 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.100.1 for FreeBSD at relay.sibptus.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40073124; Wed, 08 Aug 2018 23:33:21 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w78GXKRI067345; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 23:33:21 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w78GXGn0067341; Wed, 8 Aug 2018 23:33:16 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 23:33:15 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: Polytropon Cc: sergio lenzi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180808163315.GB66626@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180511090813.GA21919@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <1526039986.18202.5.camel@k1.com.br> <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180801162045.f3653b7d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180801162045.f3653b7d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:33:24 -0000 Polytropon wrote: [dd] > > > > 2. The sound control app in Mate is completely unrelated to the real > > > > sound system of FreeBSD (as of 11.2 and mate-1.18.0). The volume and > > > > input/output controls do nothing. I have to use the good old > > > > /usr/sbin/mixer and "sysctl hw.snd.default_unit" to manipulate with > > > > sound. Is this my misconfiguration or Mate's fault? > > > > > > Is it using the wrong mixer? Can you select a different mixer > > > device for the Gnome / Mate mixer control? > > > > What's "Mate mixer control" ? The Mate sound app lists all my > > soundcards correctly (maybe it just takes them from /dev/sndstat) but > > selecting any of the devices and trying to set parameters (set volume > > or test speakers) does exactly nothing. > > Okay, so you've already checked that more than one mixer > can be present in the system (/dev/mixer*), and none can > be manipulated. Yes, I have 5 mixers: /dev/mixer{0,1,2,3,4} /dev/mixer0 is manipulated by the volume control at the top bar. I actually had to write a script to figure it out: #!/bin/sh mv ~/tmp/mix1 ~/tmp/mix0 for i in 0 1 2 3 4 do echo mixer$i >> ~/tmp/mix1 mixer -f /dev/mixer$i >> ~/tmp/mix1 done diff -u ~/tmp/mix0 ~/tmp/mix1 > > > > > I fully understand that most GUI software is ported from Linux, > > > it's not a native BSD development result, so maybe it expects > > > some ALSA instead of the standard OSS... > > > > A question to you as you said you are a Mate user. Does this sound app > > work personally for you? Can you at least set the volume and run the > > speaker test from it? > > I can only talk about the normal volume control accessed > from the top bar: It works. The one slider present changes > the master volume. The result can be checked from a terminal > with the system's "mixer" command afterwards. I have 5 mixers: /dev/mixer{0,1,2,3,4} How do you select which mixer would be connected to the volume slider in the top bar? In my configuration, moving this slider changes the volume on /dev/mixer0 (Rear Analog), and I'd prefer to associate it with /dev/mixer1 (Front Analog). > > Sidenote: I'm not a Mate user, but I have a few Mate users. > I'm primarily a WindowMaker user myself. :-) Oh, but WindowMaker is not a DE, it's just a WM. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859