Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:07:52 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: Tom Rhodes <trhodes@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HISTORICAL_MAKE_WORLD (was: cvs commit: src Makefile README) Message-ID: <20060612233752.GH79172@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <200606120849.57695.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <200606070333.k573XmRc067920@repoman.freebsd.org> <200606090853.48604.jhb@freebsd.org> <20060610005707.GK7549@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200606120849.57695.jhb@freebsd.org>
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--ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Monday, 12 June 2006 at 8:49:56 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Friday 09 June 2006 20:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Friday, 9 June 2006 at 8:53:47 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >>> On Wednesday 07 June 2006 20:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> Obfuscation is always wrong. > > Not in this case. There's only one value of "always. Obfuscation is always wrong. >>>> The only justification for this regression is that it's really >>>> difficult to get everything right. >> >> Otherwise people would have fixed it. > > No, you aren't reading what I'm saying. In fact, it's the other way round. You're not understanding what *I* am saying. The real issue here is distinguishing between a feature and bug that is difficult to fix. > The justification is a _fundamental_ _design_ FLAW in how 'make > world' works. You can't just patch around that. You can't force > 'make world' to boot up a new kernel for you that will work with the > new userland you are about to install. Why not? This is in fact pretty much what System V does in a slightly different situation. It's not done well, but as I said, it's difficult. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEjfrQIubykFB6QiMRAhoMAJ96LkeeI1PViX2sjh305boXpZdNiACfcZFl pKzX3UmNlzpY5E2/aWcycTU= =RgWs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3--
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