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Date:      Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:29:15 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD certified software (was: WordPerfect 8 for Linux)
Message-ID:  <19981029092915.P25247@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810280902260.532-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>; from Jason C. Wells on Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 09:10:55AM -0800
References:  <36374AFD.CABEEEED@softweyr.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810280902260.532-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>

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On Wednesday, 28 October 1998 at  9:10:55 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Wes Peters wrote:
>
>>> The process of "Work with" should be transparent to the end user. I
>>> believe Terry L. proposed simply using existing package dependencies
>>> system to determine if software uses the Linuxulator.
>>
>> So, someone who reports that the SCO version of Froboz Corp FroSQL server
>> will work on FreeBSD under the SCO emulator is just noise?  No, this is
>
> (When I use the example of the Linuxulator I am not excluding SCO so no,
> the person you mentioned above is not just making noise.)
>
>> a volunteer effort, and we should encourage participation as much as
>> possible.  Let's not try to over-complicate this out of existence, this
>> project has far too much history of people wanting to build giant infra-
>> structure but not being willing to step up and implement it.
>
> I think there is a miscommunication here.
>
> When I say the process of "Works with" should be transparent I mean that
> any software should be as easy to install as a FreeBSD port. The Linux
> Netscape port is a prime example. The Linux Netscape is as easy to install
> as any native software. This requires no development of a giant
> infrastructure.

This is where we're beginning to diverge.  I don't want to exclude
*anything* which can be got to work with FreeBSD, even if it's
difficult.  That's why I said "at least two" categories in an earlier
message.  You could consider differentiating again between
(e.g. Linux) software which has FreeBSD installation support and that
which doesn't.  StarOffice on CD is probably not easy to install on
FreeBSD; it's the port that does that.  If a port exists, and the
manufacturer distributes the package on his CD-ROM, then we should
give him extra credit for that, even if it's not a native FreeBSD
port.

> FWIW, I think that all of the technicalities are already covered by the
> ports mechanism and existing FreeBSD technology. I view this branding
> effort as an advertising effort and not a technology development effort.

Agreed, the second sentence anyway.

Greg
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