Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:38:36 -0400 From: Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> To: chip <chip@wiegand.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron can't find root or operator Message-ID: <40AFAC3C.8070605@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <40AFA388.7080006@wiegand.org> References: <20040521141741.53444.qmail@web40403.mail.yahoo.com> <20040522082220.I29103@grond.sourballs.org> <40AF65C5.1060506@potentialtech.com> <40AFA388.7080006@wiegand.org>
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chip wrote:
> Thanks for all the help. I like the changes so far. What about
> specifically mentioning in the Handbook chapter that when a user runs
> the command
> crontab crontab
> the user should do this in their own home directory. My problem was I
> ran it in the /etc directory, not knowing any better, probably becuase
> that bit wasn't mentioned in the Handbook, or if I recall correctly,
> even the FAQ. The Handbook text states
> "Let us take a look at the /etc/crontab file (the system crontab):"
> Followed by the section on the user crontab and the warning paragraph,
> but no mention of doing this in the user directory, not /etc.
Please take another look at that chapter in the handbook. It was just
updated today with changes provoked by this conversation. I feel that
it's much better at explaining how things work now, but I'd be interested
to hear feedback from someone like yourself, who is having difficulty.
> So, now I am trying to run -
> crontab crontab
> in my non-root user directory, as the non-root user, and it fails with
> this-
> "crontab: crontab: No such file or directory"
The second "crontab" in that command is the filename of a file to use as
input when creating the crontab. It doesn't appear as if you've created
such a file. If you want to create one from scratch, "crontab -e" might
work better for you.
> I tried -
> crontab -u chip crontab -e (with and without the -e)
> also and it failed with the same message. So I then su'd and tried again
> and got the same message again. The I tried -
> /etc/crontab -u chip crontab (with and without the -e)
> and get permission denied, as root.
> I am running 5.1-Release, and a standard default install.
> Regards,
> Chip
>
> Bill Moran wrote:
>
>> David Fleck wrote:
>>
>>> If you already have a file written in the proper format, you can load it
>>> as your crontab by specifying 'crontab {filename}'. (That's what section
>>> 6.6.1 in the handbook is trying to say. Unfortunately, it is not at all
>>> clear on this.)
>>
>>
>>
>> There was an outstanding PR on this ... I made a few additions, and I
>> think
>> the handbook will explain this much better now. Sounds like a
>> committer is
>> going to get this into the tree within the next few days.
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=docs%2F66963
>>
>
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