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[100.16.224.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 74sm4093165qke.109.2021.10.22.06.42.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 22 Oct 2021 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 09:42:29 -0400 From: Shawn Webb To: Warner Losh Cc: Alexey Dokuchaev , src-committers , "" , dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: 225639e7db68 - main - vt: Disable bell by default Message-ID: <20211022134229.jrkkgahnu6bz2aec@mutt-hbsd> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/blob/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc References: <20211019133700.77c0ca7ac488eb99df50551b@bidouilliste.com> <20211020095206.GA77338@zxy.spb.ru> <20211020134237.17596440e1fabda5d40f6985@bidouilliste.com> <20211021080214.GB77338@zxy.spb.ru> <99e7aecf-9ab7-8b8f-ff30-b5fce3e031c2@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Commit messages for all branches of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-all List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cqp53tsgsjljfk5g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HbQWp5qKmz4xxT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --cqp53tsgsjljfk5g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 10:55:00PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:17 PM Alexey Dokuchaev wrot= e: >=20 > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:52:26PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > This discussion to date has been data free. I created a poll... > > > > > > https://twitter.com/bsdimp/status/1451274644439265308 > > > > You couldn't use neutral wording, could you? The poll is loaded > > with bias, this is not the way to collect answers. FWIW, FreeBSD > > itself does not make "loud, annoying noise", it simply instructs > > the underlying hardware to beep. You've asked if people enjoy > > loud, annoying beeps -- well, nobody does, but that's not what > > we're discussing here. > > > P.S. We likely should fix this bug, and also change the note to 880, which > is > A5 (the second A above middle C). Please see > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D32594 > for a fix for the bug I found here. Tangentially related for curious minds: Tom Scott did a video in 2014 about how the types of trucks that beep when reversing are changing from the traditional beep to a white noise type of beep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dfa28lIGuxq8 --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A= 4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc --cqp53tsgsjljfk5g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAmFyv8IACgkQ/y5nonf4 4frlew/+LbAe/krwG273WNnMEFJwAKldY0cIStpX8Sit00gSJbEIZpn1pejT8xL6 nf7yWWN3Bb7/WAhVUD6nQQUTb8wdKz6oS8bClP94I+BX03FpbJHnWe2CgthnZ7rS GJli4totuc+/T9ZKwoQiFr67iEYHJ8sDz3uQhv2hT05KVnDY7bR6E8UoEjGxXccN /Mn7WSQkopipJN3j6LEX5b+hlwgiZt32pnE3cdjxkXSllnEvAcz4cMFQ4KpVGaqN 6JwNoNOa3JsX4lgvn7cyjr8+gxoSfSix/2UkkdGnqu34/H6hy8uSY6ihG6PME/qZ 0USfjkQbBjr07+rhy0UHBqPBY27+Rtb+wab1Upx/3o4qdxObSynFP1AfRFFYcogF u9dkAVNcQGp6kwCP0ptnoaZC6MDCAXgZ7jK1YIKUe98oR0cp5t0HYu4UNdeqHfAu v68i5xEqxilRJXajpR56ZkDolYERRPe2DVD0KNs4sTZ550VNrNsuwUh8KlLIHv2l nUhav2aYgIB3b3iODfF0pNV3FrHrgtx9rjQt++daHz97B3vng/AsmU4ryVv8+0aI ACJOCdiXHh2e0nnDPQ7zEk88EwW0IPbSaBomhd26Oy8MGsxUqI2MR+RtE1d9pTOd n7k7lo+mOEGXMFqRLKFT3iHKIl9SWli1NrkAwMdKejv+JLj/bhU= =c0fF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cqp53tsgsjljfk5g--