From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 16 12:07:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BC5AD03E0 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:07:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6B5EFA for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-32-133.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.32.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E2F2277D5; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id u2GC7GU9002315; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:07:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:07:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best freBDS 64bit version or fork for ~2001-2002 DEC Aplha? Message-Id: <20160316130716.c10d580e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20160316113721.cc9fbf4ee4f1e9d930178cdc@sohara.org> References: <20160316120940.da515c86.freebsd@edvax.de> <20160316113721.cc9fbf4ee4f1e9d930178cdc@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:07:26 -0000 On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:37:21 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:09:40 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:55:16 +1100, Chris Hope wrote: > > > As pre-purchase research I'm looking to buy a $500-800(AUD) DEC Alpha > > > 64bit home desktop workstation circa 1998-2001. > > > > > > What is the latest kernel 64bit either internal project or recommended > > > fork that supports it (with KDE/Gnome 1 or similar UI). > > > > I'd say that the current production release FreeBSD/ia64 10.2 > > ia64 is Itanium, that's not going to run on an Alpha. Sorry... not compatible with Alpha 64 bit? My mistake... as you can see, I'm out of "non-x86 country" for a long time so I can't even properly recognize the most common architecture names... :-( > > Otherwise, check out FreeBSD/alpha, but keen in mind this > > branch has been discontinued: > > > > https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/alpha.html > > That should do - but it is ancient, ports are likely to be > troublesome. This will only work with older versions of KDE or Gnome (of the requested time period, 10 years ago) as they are in the source repository for that FreeBSD version and the corresponding ports infrastructure. Binary packages are probably still available, but (as well) only for that older system version. > NetBSD may be a better option. Yes, NetBSD support is probably much better - both the OS and the applications are current. http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/alpha/ NetBSD/alpha 7.0 sure is worth trying. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...