Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 16:01:21 -0500 From: John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> To: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org> Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-... Message-ID: <b4a567ae-a7fe-7530-395d-d7b4d81b1221@marino.st> In-Reply-To: <a39bf72a-489b-e0a9-b99a-470aec71803f@FreeBSD.org> References: <201609141950.u8EJolO7085386@repo.freebsd.org> <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org> <a39bf72a-489b-e0a9-b99a-470aec71803f@FreeBSD.org>
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On 9/14/2016 15:57, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 9/14/16 1:45 PM, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>> On 14 Sep, 2016, at 13:50, Antoine Brodin <antoine@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>> >>> Author: antoine >>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:50:46 2016 >>> New Revision: 422160 >>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422160 >>> >>> Log: >>> Revert recent strfile changes, strfile is already in base >>> >>> With hat: portmgr >> >> John's changes did have merit---not everybody has the games distribution >> installed. >> > > You could say this about every option in base. That does not justify > adding everything in base into the ports tree again. It means the user > should enable that option in base if they want that functionality. We > really do not need 2 versions of strfile, which has gone unchanged for a > long time. > > Optional pieces of base being in ports make sense when they are getting > frequent updates, such as Kerberos or OpenSSL or OpenSSH. > > If a user wants these game ports, they would want the game distribution > in base as well, so they should already have strfile. > > The truth here seems to be closer to that this is just for DragonFly. > > My large vision is that we move a lot of base into "ports"/packages (not > what we have today). In that case we would have just 1 version of > OpenSSL, fortune, strfile, etc. In that world we move/merge most of > base with their port versions. We're not anywhere near that today. > > Now, removing the games from base entirely and moving them to ports is a > different discussion. I personally am open to that, but not duplicating > everything for the sake of non-default setups without frequent updates. > >> Perhaps a Uses/strfile.mk would be better here? It could allow for >> /usr/bin/strfile or /usr/games/strfile if they exist, or depend on the strfile port otherwise. Best of both world and everybody wins. >> > > this is all ridiculous. It's a 400-line C program that is strictly a BUILD_DEPENDS. It caused no significant burden and solved problems. Ports have gone unmaintained for YEARS but somehow you can justify deprecating this one in 3 hours, and then claim you are treating all ports the same. You just aren't. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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