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Date:      Wed, 18 May 2016 09:59:30 +1000
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        George Neville-Neil <gnn@neville-neil.com>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r300003 - head/share/man/man4
Message-ID:  <20160517235930.GA61770@eureka.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <E3BB859D-39B3-4DF7-82CD-E2A33E497281@neville-neil.com>
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On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 at 12:05:09 -0400, George Neville-Neil wrote:
> On 17 May 2016, at 3:16, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 17 May 2016 at  0:04:51 -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 04:40:01 AM Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>> Author: grog
>>>> Date: Tue May 17 04:40:00 2016
>>>> New Revision: 300003
>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/300003
>>>>
>>>> Log:
>>>>   Correct use of incorrect grammar.
>>>>
>>>>  .Pp
>>>>  The debugging macros
>>>> -.Dq "just grown" .
>>>> +.Dq "just growed" .
>>>
>>> "grew"?
>>
>> "Just growed".  Did you never read Uncle Tom's Cabin?  Check Topsy.
>>
>> Of course, what this page really needs is a good overhaul.  I'll see
>> if I can muster the energy.
>
> Can you just be honest and admit that this is a trivial commit to
> you can vote in the core elections?

No.

I wouldn't have expected such an underhand accusation from you.  I can
be honest, but if you had taken the time to check, you would have seen
that I was already eligible.  And clearly if I had wanted to become
eligible, my commit would have been designed not to draw so much
attention.

> And Seriously?

Yes.  This wasn't a new change, just reverting a change made in
r235317.  You'll notice that the expression is in quotes, indicating
that it's, well, a quotation and not to be taken literally.  And if
you quote, you should quote correctly.  I stumbled across this by
accident doing Something Serious, and it grated.

"Just growed" was in this man page from its first commit until
2003-12-30 until 2012-5-12.  According to the commit log, the original
was reviewed by jkoshy, des, gallatin and njl.

> Uncle Toms Cabin?

To be fair, I didn't know where it came from either.  I only
discovered that when searching for the origin of this expression,
which until yesterday I had thought well-known.

What I have learnt from this exchange is:

- Many Americans don't know the expression, though it's American.
- Nobody seems to care that the rest of the page is out of date.
- People seem to have lost any remnant sense of humour.
- You still can't tune a fish.
- The bikeshed is blue.

Greg
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