From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 05:55:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DBF16A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AC543D53 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.153] (a80-126-106-146.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.126.106.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id k4I5spsj028414 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 May 2006 22:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <446C0C22.4090700@errno.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 07:54:42 +0200 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Macintosh/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Finlayson References: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517080119.01e00df8@live555.com> <446B44B0.5030908@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517125415.01e0f568@live555.com> <446B8F14.80502@errno.com> <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20060517153640.01e0f568@live555.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-Rhyolite-Metrics: ebb.errno.com 101; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More 'resource' problems with "ath0" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 05:55:12 -0000 Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> Are any of the stations associated to these systems operating in power >> save mode? > > No, I don't use power save mode. (One of the servers is at home, where > all of its clients are plugged in to AC power. The other server is at a > local coffee shop, where the owner wants to discourage people from > camping there for hours :-) Er, we're talking about wireless operation here, not acpi or similar. If the stations associated to the ap are operating in power save mode then they periodically put their wireless h/w into a power-saving sleep mode to reduce the drain on the battery. In this mode the ap has to buffer frames for the client. I'm aware of one outstanding issue with this mode whereby frames (apparently) can be stuck on the buffering q because the beacon frame stops being transmitted. This problem is currently unresolved (however you would also see messages on the ap about "transmit timeout"). I don't recall if stations associated with power save are marked in the display shown by ifconfig ath0 list sta If not then turning on power debug msgs at the 802.11 layer with wlandebug; e.g. wlandebug -i ath0 power will definitely show whether any are present (use wlandebug -i ath0 0 after to reset). > >> Is there some reason you have the cards locked to 11b? If >> not, you should be able to let them operate in 11g. > > In each case, the back-end Internet connection is only 1.5 Mbps, so the > extra bitrate of 11g was not needed. However, on your suggestion, I'll > try running both servers at 11g now. It should not matter but 11g is the typical usage and if clients are confused by being forced to operate in 11b the problem may go away. Sam