Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 18:56:29 -0600 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You've lost it (was Re:No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2:Windows)))) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20000708184514.04dbd220@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3967ADC5.1DDE73DA@confusion.net> References: <54397.962948030@localhost> <Your message of "Thu, 06 Jul 2000 23:08:47 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000706225433.0475b4d0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000707004910.046d9ab0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000707211520.00d4a5d0@localhost>
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At 04:40 PM 7/8/2000, Laurence Berland wrote: >So we must not let this happen to FreeBSD, we must have native >support!!! How do we get this? We implement the FreeBSD api on Linux, >so that people will write to FreeBSD instead. Great! But, let's think >for a second. If it's bad to use emulators, if it hurts your platform >of choice, then why on earth do you think that a Linux user would be >fooled into using FreeBSD emulation? Because they will mistake it for a feature. >Which of course we know every Linux user wants to do. The cry of Linux >has always been "down with MS, up with FSF, and undermine >Linux!!!"...Oh, wait, they *don't* want to undermine themselves. They are much more fragmented than the FreeBSD community can be. >Let's ignore for a second that you've told us to eliminate the >linuxulator, leaving us high and dry when that emergency arrives or >before your prophetic native ports pour forth from the sky, I have said nothing of the kind. You obviously haven't read my earlier messages, in which I have presented an exit strategy for emulation. >and continue my line of thinking... Which has now completely run off the rails, so what followed [Snip!] is unrelated to what I've said. . Please read what I have written before commenting. >PHK wrote, in an email a bit back: >"I un-subscribed from -hackers several years ago, because I could >not keep up with the email load. Since then I have dropped off >several other lists as well for the very same reason. > >And I still get a lot of email. A lot of it gets routed to /dev/null >by filters: People like Brett Glass will never make it onto my >screen, commits to documents in languages I don't understand >likewise, commits to ports as such. All these things and more go >the winter way without me ever even knowing about it." Talk about closed-minded! I'm afraid that this shows that PHK -- besides being rude -- may want to filter out any message containing ideas which are thought- provoking or which he does not already believe. Sad, as well as an unwarranted personal attack. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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