From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jun 6 10:14:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from evil.2y.net (ztown2-2-9.adsl.one.net [216.23.15.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDADC37B69B; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cokane@evil.2y.net) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.2y.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11912; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:20:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:20:51 -0400 From: Coleman Kane To: Randell Jesup Cc: Coleman Kane , Mike Smith , Alfred Perlstein , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kerneld for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000606132051.A11891@cokane.yi.org> References: <20000606024917.B2006@cokane.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rjesup@wgate.com on Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 10:31:52AM -0400 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, it would be especially useful for the installation boot disks as well= , to have the ability to make a tiny kernel and load the appropriate device driv= ers. Perhaps a database of some sort that keeps track of device IDs for various drivers, to be able to auto load them. That's one example. Randell Jesup had the audacity to say: > Lack of this has (in my mind) long been one of the primary failings > of most Unix's, at least in heterogenous environments like PC's (and just > about any machine with significant hardware expansion capabilities). > Modern machines not only add hardware when being built, but between boots, > and even in the middle of a session (USB, 1394, etc). A dynamically-load= ed > driver system is the obvious choice. This would make it far simpler for > users to configure machines (and add and remove hardware), to distribute > drivers, etc. IMHO, of course. >=20 > Historical reference: > The Amiga introduced hardware "Autoconfig" 15 years ago; and not > horribly long after that Mach had some form of loadable drivers (correct = me > if I'm wrong; I know it had user-mode filesystems - I only observed Mach > from a distance outside of playing a little with a 1st-gen nExt). >=20 > --=20 > Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-= 94) > rjesup@wgate.com >=20 --=20 Coleman Kane President,=20 UC Free O.S. Users Group - http://pohl.ececs.uc.edu --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE5PTLzERViMObJ880RAWG8AKCppl2khq31k1WNZJQmxi3YFSg7HgCfSrmq +vC/GLVMevtHlbyEJOzsrD8= =WyKs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message