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Date:      Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:59:31 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        Jake Burkholder <jake@locore.ca>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_acl.c kern_descrip.c kern_event.c kern_mac.c sys_pipe.c sys_socket.c uipc_socket.c uipc_syscalls.c uipc_usrreq.c vfs_aio.c vfs_syscalls.c vfs_vnops.c src/sys/netgraph ng_socket.c src/sys/sys file.h src/sys/ufs/ffs ...
Message-ID:  <200301120459.h0C4xV5a052068@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <200301120137.h0C1bD0E098037@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030111213259.E212@locore.ca> <200301120254.h0C2srcS043241@apollo.backplane.com> <20030112040835.GA33821@elvis.mu.org>

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:* Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> [030111 18:55] wrote:
:> 
:>     It's a cleanup.  Ugliness I noticed as I was evaluating how easy it
:>     would be to add a memory object file type.  I don't see why you believe
:>     a justification is required other then cleanup and code readability.
:>     void *'s are things you only use when you need to.  We certainly didn't
:>     need to here.  How exactly is this commit so bad that you are against it?
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:What about third party/loadable DTYPEs?  Isn't this more annoying
:than helpful for that case?  You've also broken the style of this
:file by removing the f_ prefix.  Please fix.
:
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:-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
:'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
: start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'

    Well, I went through various header files looking at unions.  It's a
    toss-up.  I modeled the union after the one I vm_object.h, though it
    seems to go both ways.  I guess using the same field nomenclature is
    more predominant but I generally prefer a name that makes it obvious
    the field is a union.

    I have no problem changing the name but we can't call the
    union f_data (we need to leave f_data open to catch source code 
    incompatibilities and to possibly use as a kernelland #define for
    compatibility).  We would have to think up of another name.

    I don't think third party/loadable DTYPEs are any more or less of
    an issue with or without this change (do you even know of any?).
    After all, sys/file.h is *ALREADY* not opaque... the DTYPE_ defines
    are in sys/file.h and they are certainly type-specific, and most of
    the rest of the kernel makes type-specific assumptions based on
    the dtype.  In other words, the struct file API is layer independant
    but the use of the struct file in the kernel is not.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>

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