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Date:      Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:50:12 +1200
From:      "Dan Langille" <junkmale@xtra.co.nz>
To:        "Kelly Yancey" <kbyanc@alcnet.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Using MS on FreeBSD sites
Message-ID:  <19990626075324.GZHW784493.mta1-rme@wocker>
In-Reply-To: <000101bebe48$f1a1fb40$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com>
References:  <xzpd7ymf3wm.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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I missed these messages altogether.  My thanks to those that brought it to 
my attention.  My apologies to those that have continued to support me.  
Petty wee things such as this topic get right up my nose.

On 24 Jun 99, at 9:53, Kelly Yancey wrote:

>   As a side note, intended for the -advocacy list: while doing my quick
> search I discovered something disturbing about the freebsddiary.com site
> which I was not aware of...it's driven by Frontpage (blech). The tip off
> what the search engine's URL:
> http://www.freebsddiary.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/freebsd/search.htm. On the
> other hand, the best I can tell it is running on some unix (it's got
> sendmail at least)...but isn't this the sort of thing that could come back
> and bite us? Maybe I'm just a little paranoid. :)

First of all, thanks for visiting my site.  I hope you found stuff which 
was useful.

In one of the mailing lists, I read that one should not assume malice of 
that which can be explained by stupidity.  In the case in point, I must 
give you the benefit of the doubt without judging your goals.

Now to the point.  I've never attempted to hide anything about my site.  
It's all very open.  If you looked at the source for many of the webpages 
you'll find:

	<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0">

Many will have noticed that I include articles on how I installed FP so 
it's no big secret that I use FP.

I guess I should be flattered that you consider my site so significant 
that it could possibly have any repercussions whatsoever on the FreeBSD 
Project.  But I think you are way off base.

Hypothetically, let us assume that it does "come back and bite us".  What 
would you propose we do about my site?

Another point: I write Windows applications for a living.  It's that 
income which allows me to write the Diary.  Put it this way: without 
MicroSoft, "The FreeBSD Diary" would not exist.  Any suggestions?

Should my site be removed because of this?  What about those FreeBSD 
people who also use MS products?

I use FP because, for me, and I stress again, FOR ME, it does what I need 
and it does it well.  That's all.

And for the real kicker: I use FrontPage 98 which means I use Windows on 
my desktop.  Does that bother you?  What should we do about that?

best wishes
--
Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited
The FreeBSD Diary     - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/
NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/
The Racing System     - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm


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