From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 23 09:40:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E701065676 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outW.internet-mail-service.net (outw.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD178FC15 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F9EADA67; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA01E2D6018; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AB9E9F0.3020500@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:27:12 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Fromme References: <200909230906.n8N96KZU004384@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <200909230906.n8N96KZU004384@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND in the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:40:58 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > On the subject of host/dig/nslookup. We had an old 'host' and > > 'nslookup' that were replaced with bind's heavyweight versions. > > Perhaps those could be revived and refreshed? > > > > The functionality of 'host' that I care about is: > > [...] > > The functionality of 'host' (and 'dig') that I care about > is the fact that it ignores /etc/hosts and nsswitch.conf > and always uses DNS. This feature has been invaluable > for me for debugging DNS issues. > > BTW, it's a pity window(1) was removed from base. > The removal breaks several scripts of mine, particularly > ones that are specifically designed to run without any > ports installed. Actually I had to go look at CVS (I couldn't work out how to get svn to tell me who removed it) to see who took it out and when. I don't recall any discussion of this, and while it may have been the right answer, I think it was poorly handled. It seems it was pretty much a single person's decision, and I object to that as it did go against POLA. It should have been discussed more at least. > > Please let BIND stay. And sendmail, too. > > Best regards > Oliver >