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Date:      Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:47:59 -0400
From:      epilogue@allstream.net
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: newuser
Message-ID:  <20040625104759.08837cda@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20040625090019.4817aef3.wmoran@potentialtech.com>
References:  <000001c45a68$b61c67b0$6601a8c0@james09sc2chsi> <20040625121845.GA16335@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20040625083025.58e21223.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20040625124942.GB16335@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <20040625090019.4817aef3.wmoran@potentialtech.com>

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 09:00:19 -0400
Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> wrote:

> Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 08:30:25AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 11:58:41PM -0400, James Bell wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > I have BSD UNIX.
> > > > >  
> > > > > What commands should I use from the root to create a new user.
> > > > 
> > > > Essentially:
> > > > 
> > > >     # pw useradd -n name -m
> > > >     # passwd name
> > > > 
> > > > I suggest that you immediately read the pw(8) man page and the
> > > > appropriate section of the Handbook:
> > > > 
> > > >     http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/users.html
> > > 
> > > Um ... no offense, Matt, but isn't that a bit overly difficult for a
> > > new user?
> > 
> > I think that's an unreasonably pessimistic view of the capabilities of
> > new users.
> 
> Not what I intended.
> 
> > pw(8) is not (IMHO) particularly difficult to use.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Yes,
> > there are a lot of different options for doing various things, but if
> > you adopt the principle of not fiddling with the bits you don't (yet)
> > understand, pw(8) basically does the right thing.  pw(8) also has a
> > very nifty feature where you can just stick 'help' into the command
> > line and it tells you what options are available.
> 
> My point was that adduser walks you through all the steps required to
> create a user (such as entering the GECOS stuff, and picking a shell,
> creating a home directory (although you handled that with -m))
> 
> Personally, I understand pw, and yet I find adduser to simply be more
> convenient.  I guess that was my real point.  The difficulty in user
> managemet on a Unix system (to a new user) is not the commands
> themselves, but all the various steps required to actually create a
> useful user account.  adduser puts those all together in a "wizard"
> fashon, while pw gives you lots of opportunities to forget steps.
> 
> > > Try adduser ... the manpage is pretty informative.
> > 
> > TIMTOWTDI.
> 
> OK, you're going to have to enlighten me by letting me know what that
> abbreviation stands for.
> 

heya bill,

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=timtowtdi&Find=Find

a handy resource to bookmark (or, if you use opera, integrate into your
browser via search.ini -- not sure about how firefox/moz deals with this)


cheers,
epi

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