From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 04:34:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D61DA86 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.scaleengine.net (beauharnois2.bhs1.scaleengine.net [142.4.218.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75B33F0 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (Seawolf.HML3.ScaleEngine.net [209.51.186.28]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by mx1.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B917B6359A for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <54488557.1080103@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:34:31 -0400 From: Allan Jude User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nosh version 1.9 References: <54430B41.3010301@NTLWorld.com> <5443191E.5050208@mu.org> <34F30D28-DE9B-444F-885E-F438FEEA46EC@mu.org> <54482A5E.2050303@NTLWorld.com> <527291AC-C5E2-420C-B566-C051BA82CA84@turbofuzz.com> In-Reply-To: <527291AC-C5E2-420C-B566-C051BA82CA84@turbofuzz.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RGu9sWi6tauwKMIaoNEJ227S93rk6dehv" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:34:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --RGu9sWi6tauwKMIaoNEJ227S93rk6dehv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-10-22 22:49, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >=20 >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Outback Dingo > wrote: >> >> Actually our port is "very" xml aware :) see https://github.com/outbac= kdingo/launchd_xml/tree/master/launch_xml > OK, well, launchd as originally designed certainly was not (and is not)= xml-aware. This was on purpose. You don=E2=80=99t want a lot of surfac= e area in pid 1, which can never crash, nor do you want to bake your seri= alization format into stone tablets. >=20 > launchctl(1) does all the XML parsing and then passes the results to la= unchd using its own custom IPC format. Was there some particular reason = you violently inserted the XML parsing directly into launchd after the or= iginal architect(s) went to such pains to avoid such blatant penitentiary= experiences? :-) >=20 > - Jordan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" >=20 The nice thing about this design is that it would allow replacing the XML with something more human readable/writing like UCL --=20 Allan Jude --RGu9sWi6tauwKMIaoNEJ227S93rk6dehv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUSIVaAAoJEJrBFpNRJZKfSx4P/2EfkM8DW5jsfzsf6aC3wwKJ GaPg6FRyAgZmaS5X4RITaFERhpG3CYbnx4h3nweQufwhSRF+rDMUunU0ZNC2h03I XHLKW9PUXUy9CnGeFVf5FqbXdI7eQ/4vOTgsQDePuO8Y+tmOEMq7sTqbkf03zfl1 beN3g4G/kGX/p+1z8Th6buVR9QOpz+jc5PBw/16M0LffAbmp8iO24LcyOUYJ6Wfo XccUIEKvWHVazK8pvNrIKf8tnR6WnM1h63LGka0AnpspEfj++2ZHoBbZ/G6qftzR CsT8yFFu1g4KlWTVgOxAWfe3OKlqcDVWlofBbPl60zbVLBPeIRzBjDIDRgKZpHp7 KwGtrdt7HyzSbEStmtqsz1rbVDyDVMfEYdOvUin656RChzAlBqHCLg4ViczmFa5Q kLeRYo7JguAxXD5Ke6ABd1vOg+s7PW8hc9NaLdy4NgdukWavMEezPuQVLtHc/rb0 Wrbgeera1G9/9LezfIL7eeKR5LjgCl44GdSQtTlU0OFj7UJqvG3Ce70lDOUX3egM UpN+hptMuVVd4GcBdyCF3VwcScSeh/9lqU4SMgJtsAmefGm7D2IveOS506h7AW4F plfTA+7Ba8MFNLEzj3ciSgP5xJWdTwMSnDfQv7sE99A7fJNiQlVRuY7CeGG5w8nG nvq0CJed+//7aD6JwzGz =rkVe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RGu9sWi6tauwKMIaoNEJ227S93rk6dehv--