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Date:      Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:32:15 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        "Doug Hass" <dhass@imagestream.com>, "Leo Bicknell" <bicknell@ufp.org>, "Jim Bryant" <kc5vdj@yahoo.com>, "MurrayTaylor" <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FYI 
Message-ID:  <200110180532.f9I5WFs08081@mass.dis.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:02:47 PDT." <000201c15792$2158e440$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> 

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> >Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since 
> >that's really all it is.
> 
> That's silly, what did you find in it that's flamebait?  I think you didn't
> read it.

You're a) misrepresenting the project, b) dismissing the opinions and 
statements of others that are arguably more in touch with the project, 
and c) you won't let this stupid thread die.

That's all flamebait.

> >His characterisation of the FreeBSD Project's 
> >attitude towards proprietary drivers fails to mention many of the other 
> >factors that get weighed into these decisions, and I think he's missing a
> >lot of history.
> 
> No, I am well aware of FreeBSD's history and if you don't believe that the
> project avoids closed-source code then I don't know what to say, frankly.

You could say "I'm wrong".  It'd be a good start.

> If things have changed and the majority of the users in the FreeBSD project
> welcome closed-source code, then please point out where all of this is?
> I don't see it.

This isn't what's being said.  See above inre: "flamebait".

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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