From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 17 22:21: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E04E37B405; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9I5WFs08081; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200110180532.f9I5WFs08081@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Cc: "Doug Hass" , "Leo Bicknell" , "Jim Bryant" , "MurrayTaylor" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:02:47 PDT." <000201c15792$2158e440$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:32:15 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Doug; I would recommend against falling for Ted's flamebait here, since > >that's really all it is. > > That's silly, what did you find in it that's flamebait? I think you didn't > read it. You're a) misrepresenting the project, b) dismissing the opinions and statements of others that are arguably more in touch with the project, and c) you won't let this stupid thread die. That's all flamebait. > >His characterisation of the FreeBSD Project's > >attitude towards proprietary drivers fails to mention many of the other > >factors that get weighed into these decisions, and I think he's missing a > >lot of history. > > No, I am well aware of FreeBSD's history and if you don't believe that the > project avoids closed-source code then I don't know what to say, frankly. You could say "I'm wrong". It'd be a good start. > If things have changed and the majority of the users in the FreeBSD project > welcome closed-source code, then please point out where all of this is? > I don't see it. This isn't what's being said. See above inre: "flamebait". -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message