From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 12:42:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB541065675 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E26A8FC14 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-ports@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KLHC2-0001ZF-F3 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:14 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:14 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:42:05 +0300 Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <200807220522.55840.david@vizion2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080718 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 In-Reply-To: <200807220522.55840.david@vizion2000.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: Managing bsdpan X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:42:17 -0000 David Southwell wrote: > The following portsupgrade reports for bsdpan lead me to ask a few trivial > questions and suggestions (see below) > 1. why are some packages listed in the format: > - isc/p5-Array-Compare (bsdpan-Array-Compare-1.15) > rather than: > - (bsdpan-libwww-perl-5.813) Ports tree contains the port for the given package and knows its correct name. > Is this indicative of an inconsistency in my system administration or > inconsistencies between package make files? Maybe. > 2. There is another question on similar lines because some packages helpfully > show the hierarchy in the ports tree etc: > devel/*** > rather than simply > *** Why 'devel/'? There's no confidence that thees packages have their corresponding ports. Please note that bsdpan-* is not a port name or part of it. It's the name of installed package. > 3. In regard to bsdpan apropos generates: > # apropos bsdpan > bsdpan: nothing appropriate > # True. Perl packages installed directly from bsdpan or from tarballs automatically do create corresponding package entry in '/var/db/pkg'. How kind of them, really. > 4. A search on freebsd website under bsdpan brings reference to the inclusion > of bsdpan in the ports distribution but not to any documentation on its use. I'm not a perl junkie. Try hitting CPAN instead. > 5. # locate bsdpan brings a list of bsdpan packages in /var/db/pkg but no > other files documentation etc. True. See 3. > 7 If something does exist could it be incorporated into the ports tree e.g > ports/BSDPAN_README for holding general guidelines about using the BSDPAN and > covering such issues as advice about holding packages etc. Not by me, really. Try to invetigate this and write it down then propose it for inclusion. > 9. Would not a current index of BSDPAN ports e.g ports/BSDPAN_INDEX including > a short description also be useful? Reply hazy. Ports ain't really the correct place for this staff. Try hitting CPAN. PS: Personally I don't accept the possibility of installation of unhandled / unmaintained software (e.g. not found in ports) on any hardware supervised by me. Any piece of junk which need to be installed and maintained should have a corresponding person, responsible for it "freshness" and usability. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow.