From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 21 18:41:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0148692E for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@getmail.no) Received: from smtp.getmail.no (smtp.getmail.no [84.208.15.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAAD8FC14 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:41:52 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net ([10.5.16.4]) by get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-0.04 64bit (built Jun 20 2008)) with ESMTP id <0MDU0003EP9LBH60@get-mta-out01.get.basefarm.net> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:41:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id E24F5179BB94_AD2068B for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kg-v2.kg4.no (cm-84.215.134.159.getinternet.no [84.215.134.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by get-mta-scan01.get.basefarm.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTPSA id BDDB817A01AA_AD2068F for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:41:42 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Increasing the DMESG buffer.... Message-id: <20121121194142.8c4bf7d1977f13801a021ccc@getmail.no> In-reply-to: <50AD0E82.3070706@digiware.nl> References: <50ACA59D.3080809@digiware.nl> <20121121101411.GG4535@server.rulingia.com> <50ACD522.7000706@digiware.nl> <50ACEE5B.8000901@FreeBSD.org> <50ACF891.4050105@digiware.nl> <1353513692.69940.7.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <50ACFC6C.8070506@FreeBSD.org> <20121122040251.G21191@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <50AD0E82.3070706@digiware.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:41:53 -0000 On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:25:22 +0100 Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > > Why bother... Because FreeBSD also runs on hardware with minimal memory? Because FreeBSD is a stable, sane operating system and we want to keep it that way? Because it breaks POLA? Because it make developers act sloppy? I'm sorry (I'm not picking on you in particular, but this comment represents a growing trend in attitude), but more and more people today are becoming careless in the way they think (or not think). I do not want FreeBSD to suffer because of that. If you are a FreeBSD developer or user; be vigilant! Don't let the sloppyness silnently slip into or favorite operating system, or the way we handle it! -- Torfinn Ingolfsen