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Date:      Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:31 +0000
From:      Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
To:        Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "Tobias C. Berner" <tcberner@FreeBSD.org>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r514669 - in head: . Mk/Uses archivers/kf5-karchive devel/kf5-extra-cmake-modules devel/kf5-kapidox devel/kf5-kauth devel/kf5-kbookmarks devel/kf5-kcmutils devel/kf5-kconfig devel/kf5-k...
Message-ID:  <20191027065931.GB23020@lonesome.com>
In-Reply-To: <zhhu-8dyq-wny@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201910171806.x9HI6g9e044915@repo.freebsd.org> <20191020233557.GA4508@lonesome.com> <zhhu-8dyq-wny@FreeBSD.org>

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On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:45:01PM +0200, Jan Beich wrote:
> Each __FreeBSD_version bump makes poudriere obsolete *all* packages.

And this is why on -CURRENT we often cheat, and don't update the jails
every 5 minutes.  Thus ignoring this message in the errorlogs:

  !!! Jail is newer than host. (Jail: 1300050, Host: 1300047) !!!
  !!! This is not supported. !!!
  !!! Host kernel must be same or newer than jail. !!!
  !!! Expect build failures. !!!

because *in general* things don't change that much.  Of course, if there
is something significant enough, then, yes, the whole package set must
be rebuilt.

> so learning how to cut corners helps. For one, poudriere obsoletes
> packages in a chain reaction but the chain can be cut at indirect
> consumer boundary

Foot-shooting-mode: enabled.

> Once the project moves to GitHub (or similar) the rate may slightly
> increase but the true blocker is pre-commit automation.

Heaven save us from the "rolling release" monster e.g. the abolition
of even the idea of "release" except wrapped in a pretty phrase.  I
could not disagree more.

mcl



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