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Date:      Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:03:05 +0100
From:      Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Koop Mast <kwm@freebsd.org>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/textproc/ots Makefile
Message-ID:  <CADLo839MkBrHQRz4B4XRTaSEO51uC%2BXsQXnc3OrZjiMf2Bkkvw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20110826200234.GA8743@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201108261828.p7QISje3085996@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110826200234.GA8743@FreeBSD.org>

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2011/8/26 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 06:28:45PM +0000, Koop Mast wrote:
>> kwm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 2011-08-26 18:28:45 UTC
>>
>> =A0 Modified files:
>> =A0 =A0 textproc/ots =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Makefile
>> =A0 Log:
>> =A0 Mark MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE.
>
> Just replying to a random MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE commit. =A0I have a suggestion
> which I think would help us to fix parallel builds when portmgr@ decides =
to
> start running -exp runs with forced MAKE_JOBS: every time one of us marks=
 a
> port as MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE, should provide a short comment on the nature of=
 a
> failure. =A0While in majority of cases it can hardly be generalized as it=
 is
> probably due to the incorrectly defined dependencies, sometimes it's one
> of the well-known cases: missing `-p' switch to mkdir(1) calls, GNU make =
vs.
> BSD make (devel/nasm is an example of this particular case), or if it onl=
y
> fails for -j4 but not -j2.
>
> Perhaps MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE knob could be refactored into something similar =
to
> other "brokenness" knobs and tought to accept a reason string, while "yes=
"
> value could still be used for cases when exact cause of breakage is not s=
o
> obvious.
>
> I also encourage everyone who experience brokenness during parallel build=
s
> check what popular GNU/Linux distros think about it. =A0AFAIK, Gentoo doe=
s
> parallel builds by default, and explicitly passes -j1 in their ebuilds if
> they don't have relevant patch. =A0Sometimes the patch exists, in which c=
ase
> it should be backported to FreeBSD. =A0Ditto for OpenBSD, Debian, RedHat.=
..
>

There's no reason a comment can't be put into MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE;

[crees@hydra]~% echo /usr/ports/Mk/* | xargs grep '^[^#].*MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE'
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:.if defined(DISABLE_MAKE_JOBS) ||
defined(MAKE_JOBS_UNSAFE)

Chris



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