Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:14:37 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.ORG> To: "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD IRC channels and ??quality?? Message-ID: <19990119051437.G42642@bitbox.follo.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901191411350.7090-100000@fireball.2000.com.au>; from Oben O. Candemir on Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 02:19:37PM %2B1100 References: <38685.916714148@zippy.cdrom.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901191411350.7090-100000@fireball.2000.com.au>
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On Tue, Jan 19, 1999 at 02:19:37PM +1100, Oben O. Candemir wrote: [jkh on not beliving in IRC] > > nor do I have enough faith in the underlying technology to > > try and make any more out of it than that and nor should you. If one > > What is it you don't have faith in exactly. All it requires to be inviting > to newbies is to exercise self control. That requires 'brain technology'. > I dare say you and your league may have lost some of that wading in the > cesspool. Part of the problem is one of exhaustion. When you've answered the same question a hundred times (as in literal number), and you've spent time on getting the section in the handbook that describe it to be readable, and five somebodies turn up and insists on being handheld through the procedure "bcoz I dont liq readin' dox", a lot of your patience will be worn away. I still hang in #freebsd on EFNet (I'm also one of the chanops); I try to answer questions if nobody else does. However, if somebody are not willing to help themselves - e.g, I give a reference to the manpage and they insist on not reading it, but having me hand them an actual command to type - then I bite them off, sometimes with a kick (but seldom with a ban - and I _do_ explain the situation to them in MSGs if they don't re-join inside a minute). My original reason for joining #freebsd on EFNet instead of IRCNet (where I used to hang before, and which is a much more quiet and nice place) was to have a larger set of people to help. As it is, there is an "infinite" set of people to help, and a very limited set of people to provide the help. This means we all have to prioritize - personally, I have to prioritize between just helping people, coding on FreeBSD, just chatting randomly, coding work stuff, and having a life. If somebody is nice about it, I'm willing to let his need change my priorities enough that I help him. However, if somebody becomes demanding and is (in my opinion) wasting my time to save a tiny amount of his, I get annoyed. At that point, the /kick fingers are easy to reach for. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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