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Date:      Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:23:35 +0100
From:      Nicolas Souchu <nsouch@free.fr>
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Cc:        arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Newbusifying kbd?
Message-ID:  <20030122222335.A8449@armor.fastether>
In-Reply-To: <20030122081923.GA10985@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:19:23AM -0800
References:  <20030119225129.A6948@armor.fastether> <20030119233031.GA24377@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030120074638.A11055@armor.fastether> <20030120222027.GA597@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <3E2D173C.3040507@graphics.cs.uni-sb.de> <20030122091519.B6700@armor.fastether> <20030122081923.GA10985@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 12:19:23AM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 09:15:19AM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:47:40AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> > > Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > > 
> > > [KGI]
> > > 
> > > > I took a quick look at it. I'm not opposed to having graphics support
> > > > in the kernel. The problem I think I see is that we probably have
> > > > enough interest to make standard VGA work, but never really have the
> > > > people or interest to keep up with the latest and greatest graphics
> > > > engine. So, I think this would be useful only in a model where the
> > > > graphics drivers are contributed and the X server makes use of it.
> > > > So, if XFree86 changes to this model, then I see potential...
> > > 
> > > Chicken and egg problem... as far as I remember (I looked at it looong 
> > > ago) they have a X server too... or at least they want to provide one.
> > 
> > KGI provides a X server accelerated (PhoneiX) implementation not based on X. On
> > the other hand GGI (http://www.ggi-project.org), the user library going
> > with KGI does provide XFree86 (called XGGI) running) on top of the KGI
> > driver framework without its own drivers.
> 
> Do I understand correctly that "without its own drivers" means that
> XFree86 doesn't have its own drivers and thus that the kernel driver
> is the hardware driver that's being used (though KGI)?

You do.

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Nicholas Souchu - nsouch@free.fr - nsouch@FreeBSD.org

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