Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:45:13 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> To: "Andrew L. Gould" <algould@datawok.com> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, speedydemon@shadowdev.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6vesd=E1n_G=E1bor?= <gabor.kovesdan@t-hosting.hu>, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com> Subject: Re: Flash Petition (Was Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop Article) Message-ID: <ef10de9a0601090645p159959aewf6e6a5994960355@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060109081209.114ce611@grokwell.org> References: <ef10de9a0601090332l3093fbe3j8a6234aeb74e6d59@mail.gmail.com> <20060109081209.114ce611@grokwell.org>
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On 1/9/06, Andrew L. Gould <algould@datawok.com> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 05:32:48 -0600 > Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 1/8/06, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > > > > > On 1/5/06, Frank Laszlo <laszlof@vonostingroup.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> K=F6vesd=E1n G=E1bor wrote: > > > >>> Nikolas Britton wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> On 1/4/06, James Cornell <speedydemon@shadowdev.org> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> never mind, I just made one so go sign it!!! > > > >>>> http://www.petitiononline.com/flash4me/petition.html > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> I've signed it and posted it to a Hungarian open-source > > > >>> community, but I think it would be nice if somebody from the > > > >>> doc team can add it to the news on the website, so I cc'd > > > >>> freebsd-doc@, I hope this helps geting Adobe to release a > > > >>> working Flash for FreeBSD. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> > > > >>> Gabor Kovesdan > > > >> > > > >> Not to rain on the parade, but since when has one of those online > > > >> petitions done any good? > > > >> > > > > > > > > It may be trivial but at least I did something to rectify it. > > > > Talking about are problems will get us nowhere unless we also do. > > > > Do you have a better plan of action? > > > > > > The problem is, anyone can sign a petition, even those that don't, > > > nor will ever, use the software, which is what makes them > > > meaningless :( > > > > > > You really need to get someone on the inside that is using FreeBSD > > > and push from that direction ... unless its a product you can pay > > > for, and then you make the dollars speak for you ... > > > > I make all IT, purchasing, decisions at my company. I suspect most > > other senior IT folk also make or have strong influence in, > > purchasing, decisions at their company's. What are the demographics > > for people who use FreeBSD? I suspect a higher then normal percentage > > of senior IT folk make up the ranks. Here's an excellent example of > > the point I'm trying to make: Last year my company wanted to build a > > flash website. I put my foot down and said no, not everyone can use or > > see flash websites. Macromedia lost a $999 dollar sale. > > > > > > > > What about the FreeBSD Foundation ... maybe something that they can > > > organize? > > > > I'm all for that and other organisations getting involved, maybe they > > can actually do something too. > > How about a campaign where every time a FreeBSD user comes across a > Flash website, he/she sends the webmaster an email stating that we > can't see their content because Flash is not available for FreeBSD? I > wonder if we could generate a noticeable volume. > I remember Firefox / Mozilla having a system like this. They had a website that you could post / list sites that didn't work with the browser, then we would send complaints to the site owners.
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