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Date:      Thu, 4 Apr 2002 13:45:43 -0800
From:      "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
To:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: hub.freebsd.org spam policy
Message-ID:  <20020404214543823.AAA153@empty1.ekahuna.com@pc02.ekahuna.com>
In-Reply-To: <bulk.19625.20020404043306@hub.freebsd.org>

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> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 23:12:44 -0500
> From: Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org>

> On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:38:05AM -0000, wmoran@mail.the-i-pa.com wrote:
> > I just got a new ISP and suddenly I can't send mail to the lists.
> > 
> > So I can let my ISP know what he needs to fix, what exactly does
> > the server do with DNS to determine whether or not to reject a
> > connection?
> > 
> Your IP needs a reverse DSN lookup. For example,
> my domain is freeze.org
> If I do an nslookup on freeze.org I get,
> Server:  smtp.qx.net
> Address:  208.235.88.101
> 
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:    freeze.org
> Address:  63.106.140.202  <= IP for freeze.org
> 
> The reverse part is where we do an nslookup on the just obtained
> IP. It had better return freeze.org
> 
> nslookup 63.106.140.202
> Server:  smtp.qx.net
> Address:  208.235.88.101
> 
> Name:    freeze.org <= Reverse lookup matches original
> Address:  63.106.140.202 <= IP matches one above.
> 
> I used to have a cable modem and the reverse lookup matched
> the original. Then, one day Insite decided to change their
> configuration and I was stuck. I ended up getting a business
> DSL account, and they provide the reverse lookup for me.
> However, if you have multiple domains mapped to a single IP,
> only one of them can be used for the reverse lookup.
> 
> HTH.


I think freebsd.org's "spam policy" is arbitrary and counter-
productive.  I got bitten by it, because of an obscure rule that 
blocked me not only from mailing the lists, but even prevented me 
from mailing postmaster@freebsd.org.  That "anti-spam" rule was 
matching on a characteristic of my outgoing messages that has never 
caused me a single problem posting to dozens of mailing lists over 
the last 7 years or so.

Poorly implemented and arbitrary "anti-spam" blocking is worse than 
none at all, and we will continue to see innocent people getting 
unnecessarily inconvenienced as a result.

Meanwhile, if messages like the following are any indication, these 
"anti-spam" measures aren't even particularly effective for their 
primary purpose.


[sent to questions@freebsd.org]
> Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 06:30:34 -0600
> From: "Phongsin Ch" <Phongsin.Ch@sanmina-sci.com>
> Subject: Get more money by e-commerce business .




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Philip J. Koenig                                       pjklist@ekahuna.com
Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium


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