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Date:      Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:34:46 +0000
From:      Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/compat/linux linux_socket.c
Message-ID:  <20050310183446.GW98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3301.1110479070@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20050310181903.GU98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk> <3301.1110479070@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 07:24:30PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20050310181903.GU98930@myrddin.originative.co.uk>, Paul Richards wr
> ites:
> 
> >That's the crux of FreeBSD's problem really. We can't tell the
> >commercial world to change the way they work to suit what we want
> >to do. If we want them to take FreeBSD seriously we have to fit
> >with the expectations they have.
> 
> No, the crux of FreeBSD's problem is the differing opinion on how
> serious we want to be taken.
> 
> I for instance, do not want "the commercial world", (by which we
> in this case means "application producing companies") to take us
> anymore serious than we are able to be.
> 
> Being realistic about our capacity and ability is far more important
> to everybody, than promising specific goals of dubious reachability.

I have no disagreement with that position. In fact, raising this
issue bolsters that position by showing just how far away we are
from being able to produce a product suited to that sort of commercial
environment.

-- 
Paul Richards



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