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Date:      Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:13:28 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
Cc:        svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Eitan Adler <eadler@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r265132 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/dev/null
Message-ID:  <1398878008.22079.67.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
In-Reply-To: <CF3018FC8A9641CE811D5F2211298F7D@multiplay.co.uk>
References:  <201404300620.s3U6Kmn6074492@svn.freebsd.org> <1398869319.22079.54.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <CF3018FC8A9641CE811D5F2211298F7D@multiplay.co.uk>

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On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 17:22 +0100, Steven Hartland wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian Lepore" <ian@FreeBSD.org>
> To: "Eitan Adler" <eadler@FreeBSD.org>
> Cc: <src-committers@FreeBSD.org>; <svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org>; <svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: svn commit: r265132 - in head: share/man/man4 sys/dev/null
> 
> 
> > On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 06:20 +0000, Eitan Adler wrote:
> >> Author: eadler
> >> Date: Wed Apr 30 06:20:48 2014
> >> New Revision: 265132
> >> URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/265132
> >> 
> >> Log:
> >>   Add a /dev/full device.
> >>   
> >>   /dev/full is similar to /dev/zero except it always returns
> >>   ENOSPC when you attempt to write to it.
> >>   
> > 
> > For some reason this reminded me of something I've been wanting for a
> > while but never get around to writing... /dev/ones, it's just
> > like /dev/zero except it returns 0xff bytes.  Useful for dd'ing to wipe
> > out flash-based media.
> 
> Surely for that you want camcontrol security ...?
> 
>     Regards
>     Steve

I have no idea what that is, but given that it has "security" in the
name, it's almost certainly NOT what I want in any way shape or form.
Shocking as it may be, some people are just not obsessed with security,
for good reason.  It just isn't a consideration in any way in my day to
day activities.  

When I want to make an sdcard, or some portion thereof, look
empty/virgin/new-from-factory for testing on an embedded system, that
has nothing to do with security, and everything to do with just exactly
what I asked for:  something that writes all-ones-bits.

Besides, cam and sdcards don't play in the same sandboxes.

-- Ian





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