From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Mar 2 14:17:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 915CE37B718 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 7049 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2001 22:17:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 22:17:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA01BFF.34C96CB1@urx.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:17:35 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric De La Cruz Lugo Cc: treznor@sunflower.com, millioncheese@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RIVA TNT2 AGP 16 MB Video Card quiestion an X-Server question. References: <20010302002830.14289.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> <00a601c0a330$b5c33200$4d011c0a@delacruz.avis.com.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: > > Thanks to all of you for your responses I really apreciate it.! > > The reason I want this kind of board is because its cheap for me, and > because I want good 2D and 3D capabilities on my FreeBSD BOX > Yes there is a prejuidce about using FreeBSD as a user machine because > everybody use it as a Server OS all the time, in my case I have used FreeBSD > for several Years (back to 1992) and since 1994 I have used, Slackware, > SuSE, Red-Hat, Debian, but I still like more FreeBSD :). I am biased the same way. I tried Linux first almost exactly 2 years ago. Then, a friend from where I used to work brought over his 4-cd set of FreeBSD 2.2.8. I was comfortable out of the box with it. When 3.1 came out, I ordered the subscription from Walnut Creek. I could do all of the things using FreeBSD that I had gotten used to since I was introduced to unix on a Cray X/MP in 1988. The central code repository for the system was what I had gotten used to and really didn't believe in getting something here and something there and calling it a system. There was almost 40 years of programming code control built into that bias and you don't change them over night. I also really liked the port system. The systems I use have various levels of video cards and you can tell the difference in speed when you are scrolling in x-windows. The TNT2 with 32MB seems to be just fine. I have a 4MB card in one system and it blinks during the scroll. I jumped around 16MB and don't have any idea about the speeds on that card. > > I want to use Xephem (Astronomical Software, with Hi Res images (stars, > planets, nebulae etc...) and simulations in 3D > I Want to use The GIMP (Graphic Image Manipulation Program) > I want to use, Galeon or Netscape > And maybe 1 or 2 3D games like Quake. MPEG or AVI video > Star Office and maybe Applixware > KDE 2 apps. I just got kde-2.1 installed. I'm going to have to look at Xephem. I haven't found a game I was interested in that ran on the Unix side. With 30 GB ATA-100 drives being so cheap and needing more than one for fast buildworlds, adding an OS like Windows ME didn't hurt. When XP comes out, it will have connections to Windows 2000 and I will be able to get rid of one of my multi-boots. The bank-on-line software only ran in the Win 9x environment. I ran the games in W2K. There is a lot of 3-d mapping software out there that is open source. The 3-d with shading can produce an awesome looking local 3-d map. The mapping software installs on FreeBSD just fine but was probably developed on Linux. I may like FreeBSD much better but if Linux wasn't there, I wouldn't have the software I like to use. > > hope this info put things into perspective, besides, this phrase: "Turning > PCs into Workstations!" itīs from FreeBSD doesnīt it? > > But for the server side (for those who still see FreeBSD as a Server OS), I > want to run a Webserver, FTP server and a Proxy and Firewall for my > internal Network (4 PCs) all this with a cable connection.. My system with Apache on it doesn't have x-windows installed. That keeps it clean, and fast :). The concept of running x on a web server reminds me of my objection of using Windows 2000 for the same purpose :). Regards, Kent > > greetings for all of you, from Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, The Maya Land. > > Eric. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tyler McGeorge > To: ; Eric De La Cruz Lugo > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: RIVA TNT2 AGP 16 MB Video Card quiestion an X-Server question. > > > This may seem like a strange question, and it is > > relatively off topic...But I run a 4MB 2d only video > > card in my FreeBSD machine, and even if I ran X, I > > wouldn't need more. I maybe losing your context with > > my prejudice that FreeBSD is, in general, used as a > > server machine and not a user machine... If you were > > to want a user machine, I would suggest Slackware > > Linux over FreeBSD. > > --- Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Eric De La Cruz Lugo wrote: > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message