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Date:      Fri, 2 Jun 2006 02:50:47 +1000 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Maxim Konovalov <maxim@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@freebsd.org>, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/ufs/ufs ufs_vnops.c
Message-ID:  <20060602023102.J34761@delplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <200606010858.39417.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <200605311315.k4VDFUhD093628@repoman.freebsd.org> <20060601094950.GU21998@submonkey.net> <20060601100126.GA43737@FreeBSD.org> <200606010858.39417.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, John Baldwin wrote:

> On Thursday 01 June 2006 06:01, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:49:50AM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
>>> @@ -69,6 +69,10 @@
>>>  the file must be open for writing.
>>>  .Sh RETURN VALUES
>>>  .Rv -std
>>> +If the file to be modified is not a directory or
>>> +a regular file, the
>>> +.Fn truncate
>>> +call will return the value 0.
>>
>> Doesn't "value of 0" sound better?
>
> Not to me, though I can't explain why.  I think the phrase "X will return the
> value Y" is common in man pages though.

"will return" sounds strange to be.

Normal is "Upon successful completion, the value 0 is returned...".
This is part of what ".Rv -std" expands to.

POSIX says "Upon successful completion, ftruncate( ) shall return 0...".

The POSIX wording is better.  "the value 0" says nothing more than "0",
and "returns" is clearer than "is returned".  Saying "the value 0" is
apparently a hack to give the clause a subject (or is it an object? --
I think the value is the object convoluted to a subject or vice versa).

FreeBSD has a deshallify.sh script to adjust the POSIX wording.  It
does s/shall return/returns/.

Bruce



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