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Date:      Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:37:43 -0500
From:      Jon Noack <noackjr@alumni.rice.edu>
To:        Remi <MrL0L@charter.net>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <40DF13F7.2000608@alumni.rice.edu>
In-Reply-To: <36u63c$1uk902@mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net>
References:  <36u63c$1uk902@mxip07a.cluster1.charter.net>

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On 06/27/04 03:06, Remi wrote:
> See that's I'm thinking, the raw performance is very attractive to me!! So
> what's this about a p4 1.7 outperforming a 2.8? You got link to benchmarks?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel O'Connor [mailto:doconnor@gsoft.com.au] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 8:23 PM
> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org; obrien@freebsd.org
> Cc: Remi; questions@freebsd.org; current@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: AMD64 vs i386 for FreeBSD
> 
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> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:30, David O'Brien wrote:
>>> I have a choice between AMD64 3200+ and a P4 2.8GHz with HT.
>>> Which one would you guys recommend to run FreeBSD. Obviously the
>>> i386 would be easier to run, so I guess my question is what is
>>> the state of the AMD64 FreeBSD version?
>> 
>> You do know you can run FreeBSD/i386 on the Athlon64 3200+ laptop, 
>> right? :-) A 3200+ running 32-bit FreeBSD will out-perform the P4 
>> 2.8GHz running the same OS.
> 
> A Pentium-M 1.7Ghz will outperform a 2.8Ghz P4 too ;)
> 
> If battery life is important to you I'd suggest not getting an AMD64.
> 
> For raw performance it's "pretty nice" though :)

He said "Pentium-M".  It's a completely different processor than the 
Pentium 4-M.  Designed for mobile computing, it is best described as 
combining the best features of the Pentium 3 (short(er) pipeline, etc.) 
and the Pentium 4 (better branch predictor, etc.) with high-end power 
saving features to form a third processor far superior to the previous two.

Here's a first look at the chip:
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/

Some benchmarks where a 1.6GHz Pentium-M destroys a 2.2GHz Pentium 4-M:
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-13.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-14.html

Battery life in the 6+ hour range is common with Pentium-M laptops. 
Here's the first look results (note the Pentium 4-M had a battery with 
over 20% greater capacity!):
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20030205/centrino-17.html

If you value battery life, go with the Pentium-M.  If you *most highly* 
value performance, the Athlon64 is probably the way to go.

Jon



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