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Date:      Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:01:16 +0200 (EET)
From:      Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
To:        rssh@grad.kiev.ua
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, dkelly@hiwaay.net, FreeBSD-Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Back to sysinstall (was Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall))
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981220094758.716A-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee>
In-Reply-To: <367BDDA7.52011CC7@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA>

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On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote:

> Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > >       a) to get the new package system, we need good C/C++ compiler
> >
> > yes.
> >
> > >       b) to get good C/C++ compiler, we need TenDRA
> 
>  It yet not able to compile STL.

This sentence is unparseable. What is not yet able to compile STL? And
What do you mean by compiling STL?

Among all the other things:
	a) gcc is not STL compatible, it just doesn't fully support C++
	   yet, plus there are some misc bogons of the (let's do it so, it
	   will in time make it to the standard) kind. 
	b) TenDRA as produced by the port is unusable. Among other things,
	   the port does not for some reason include support for long
	   long (cure with the addition of one line to the build config
	   file)
	c) TenDRA implements full C++ as of Nov. 1997 draft. It does not,
	   however, come with the full set of standard libraries. As it is
	   combinable with the SGI STL implementation, the only piece
	   really missing is the iostreams library. Compared to what will
	   be needed to be doem to get the system compilable with TenDRA,
	   it is a minor problem.

[snip]

	Sander

	There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future -
	all these are just illusions.


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