From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Oct 17 02:38:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18694 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18689 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA00403; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:08:05 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id TAA00570; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:08:04 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19981017190803.A435@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:08:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Paul Dekkers , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Maybe 3.0 or wait for 2.2.8? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Dekkers on Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 10:12:42AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 17 October 1998 at 10:12:42 +0200, Paul Dekkers wrote: > Hi > > If I want to set-up a proxy server, what's the best RELEASE for me? Is 3.0 > faster or better for those purposes? No. > And which version would you suggest to use for a multi-user server? What do you mean by that? But I still don't think 3.0's a better choice unless you have some specific requirement which 2.2 can't fulfil. One example might be support for UltraDMA: if you have newish IDE drives, they will run *much* faster under 3.0. > I once heared people say for servers that have to be fast you'd try 3.0 > instead of 2.2.X... Is that true? Or can I better use 2.2.X because it has > proven its stability? There's not that much difference between the two in speed. What difference there is may depend on what you're doing. 2.2 is probably more stable. > BTW: Since it's running under ELF, does it eat up more mem? Under > Linux my shell (bash) always took more than 1.3Mb, and under FreeBSD > it was just half of that (700K or smth), is that still the same? (I > always assumed that as the big disadvantage for ELF instead of > a.out...) No, there's some other factor at work there. Maybe one was stripped, the other not. Here's an example of the difference between some typical programs on a 3.0-BETA elf machine and a 3.0-RELEASE aout machine: === root@razzia (/dev/ttyp3) /bin 6 -> ls -l cp csh ps sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 60904 Oct 14 10:32 cp -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 258280 Oct 14 10:32 csh -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 187872 Oct 14 10:33 ps -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 321120 Oct 14 10:33 sh === root@razzia (/dev/ttyp3) /bin 7 -> file cp csh ps sh cp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped csh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped ps: setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped sh: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), statically linked, stripped === root@razzia (/dev/ttyp3) /bin 8 -> cd /freebie/bin === root@razzia (/dev/ttyp3) /freebie/bin 9 -> ls -l cp csh ps sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 65536 Oct 17 17:29 cp -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 258048 Oct 17 17:29 csh -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 188416 Oct 17 17:30 ps -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 319488 Oct 17 17:30 sh === root@razzia (/dev/ttyp3) /freebie/bin 10 -> file cp csh ps sh cp: FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged executable csh: FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged executable ps: setgid FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged executable sh: FreeBSD/i386 compact demand paged executable In other words, in some cases ELF is bigger than a.out, in some cases it's the other way round. Either way, it's not a big difference. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message