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Date:      Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:23:56 -0500
From:      Kutulu <kutulu@kutulu.org>
To:        Anthony Atkielski <anthony@atkielski.com>
Cc:        Giorgos Keramidas <charon@labs.gr>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Re[2]: Tiny starter configuration for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20011108102356.B10218@pr0n.kutulu.org>
In-Reply-To: <002801c1682c$818807b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 09:08:08AM %2B0100
References:  <15330.6606.417524.41024@guru.mired.org><002b01c1635f$5a5f4300$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15330.14419.809266.281360@guru.mired.org> <007e01c1636e$97016d10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011108021537.E79276@hades.hell.gr> <002801c1682c$818807b0$0a00000a@atkielski.com>

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On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 09:08:08AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Giorgos writes:
> 
> > I let people login as normal users on my workstation
> > from places like New Zealand, Australia or Canada ...
> 
> Via telnet or SSH?
> 
> Is there any danger in allowing telnet login of unprivileged users on a system,
> apart from the possibility of compromise of the user's own account?  That is,

There is a danger in letting *any* users log into a system.  There are typically
many more ways to exploit programs if you have a local account and can execute
commands, than if you were limited to what packets could get past the various 
levels of router/firewall/closed sockets that can drop remote traffic.

It's also unfortunately the case that, quite often, admins
tend to lag behind in fixing 'local exploit' problems because they tend not to
trigger things like IDS or firewall systems, and don't get as much 'peer press'
as remote exploits.

This doesn't mean not to allow anyone on your machine ever, but it is a good
argument against letting "everyone" on your machine, as in your anonymous
guest account.  And, of course, it means you will have to be that much more 
secure and vigilant with your system.


--K


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