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Date:      Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:21:58 -0700
From:      Modulok <modulok@gmail.com>
To:        "Frank Shute" <frank@shute.org.uk>, cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws>,  "Ryan da Silva" <rdasilva@greenfield.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Suggestion
Message-ID:  <64c038660901041621v6311caf4ue35868120b7e4355@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090105000352.GA24842@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>
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> > "FreeBSD" is displayed in large font with, ASCII characters, reminds me
> > of the 1990`s with BBS`s. Don`t get me wrong, I loved the days of the
> > BBS. But it`s 2009 and FreeBSD is a solid, professional,
> > enterprise-grade operating system and the silly ASCII logo is the only
> > thing that says amateur about the product.

Gratuitous misuse of iconic representations, logos and other pointless
flair is one of the reasons I moved to beastie. The thing that makes
me think of it as a 'professional enterprise-grade operating system'
is that I can deploy it and not have to worry about it. The
documentation is also excellent. It is these things that make it good,
not loading screens, glossy icons, buttons and logos. Besides, I like
the little ASCII logo. Ironic for a visual effects artist though :)~

To each his own.
-Modulok-

On 1/4/09, Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 04:02:53PM +0100, cpghost wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 01:26:03AM -0500, Ryan da Silva wrote:
>> > Someone needs to change the FreeBSD boot menu. The way the word/logo
>> > "FreeBSD" is displayed in large font with, ASCII characters, reminds me
>> > of the 1990`s with BBS`s. Don`t get me wrong, I loved the days of the
>> > BBS. But it`s 2009 and FreeBSD is a solid, professional,
>> > enterprise-grade operating system and the silly ASCII logo is the only
>> > thing that says amateur about the product. I would try to make the
>> > change myself for myself, but i am not a programmer.
>>
>> You can change the logo yourself, e.g. to Beastie.
>> Just add this line to /boot/loader.conf:
>>
>> loader_logo="beastie"
>
> and:
>
> loader_color="YES"
>
> to get beastie in all his colourful glory ;)
>
>>
>> If you want to change the logo or add a new one,
>> have a look at /boot/beastie.4th. That's where
>> the graphics are. This is Forth, so the code may
>> seem a little bit opaque at first.
>>
>> > I love this product and would like to suggest changing that
>> > screen. To what? I don't know.  Maybe instead of the large logo
>> > simply put "FreeBSD version XXX, copy right" etc. Or heck, maybe a
>> > color bootscreen like GRUB has in Linux (from what i've seen in
>> > Centos/Trixbox).
>>
>> The beastie logo is in ANSI-color (there's a bw version of it
>> too). You can create your own ANSI-color representation of your
>> customized logo too.
>>
>> A fully graphical boot logo (e.g. by switching to VESA) won't be so
>> good, because there are many users out there who boot FreeBSD on
>> headless devices (like Soekris), which don't have the appropriate
>> circuitry and have to fall back to the serial console. That's why
>> the current boot screen is very good: it's lightweight, portable,
>> and to a certain extent customizable.
>
> Oliver Fromme was working on a graphical bootloader:
>
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/OliverFromme/BootLoader
>
> The page was last updated in July by the looks of it.
>
> <snip>
>>
>> Regards,
>> -cpghost.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>
>  Frank
>
>
>  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
>
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