From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 22:06:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9C5106566C; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryao@gentoo.org) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E588FC14; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (pool-108-46-203-161.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [108.46.203.161]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ryao) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B4511B4021; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:04:35 -0400 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.5) Gecko/20120613 Thunderbird/10.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <20120615124849.GI96212@ass.kameli.org> <20120618081140.GK96212@ass.kameli.org> <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:17:21 +0000 Cc: Doug Barton , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Vincent Hoffman , Nathan Whitehorn , Outback Dingo , openrc@gentoo.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?= Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:06:10 -0000 On 06/19/2012 04:12 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Richard Yao wrote: >> On 06/19/2012 12:50 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >>> On 6/18/2012 4:05 PM, Richard Yao wrote: >>>> Doug, we already have OpenRC implemented. You can install Gentoo FreeBSD >>>> in a jail, install regular FreeBSD in another jail and do your own >>>> performance comparisons. >>> >>> Bzzzzzzzzt! Thanks for playing. :) You're the one proposing the change, >>> YOU get to do the performance comparisons. If you want a rough idea of >>> what I personally would consider to be a robust test, don't hesitate to >>> ask. I'm sure others would have ideas as well. >> >> Would you elaborate on what you consider to be a robust test? I really >> have no idea. > > It might be an ok smoke test, but it's hardly a realistic > test/comparison as the pseudo startup for a jail and a real system > aren't close to being the same (this is in part because of how jails > function). > Thanks, > -Garrett Would you elaborate on what you consider to be acceptable? Honestly, I am not certain if you will appreciate any tests unless you do them yourself.