From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 12:08:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C509BB44; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A21061875; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c106.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk (c106.sec.cl.cam.ac.uk [128.232.18.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s82C8Kpp037492 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 2 Sep 2014 12:08:22 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 13:08:20 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0B55DEDF-7268-4E7A-8971-36AB68D0C170@FreeBSD.org> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> To: Michelle Sullivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: ports@freebsd.org, pkg@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, mva@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:08:33 -0000 On 2 Sep 2014, at 12:47, Michelle Sullivan wrote: > I'm not happy that the EOL was > not actually an EOL and it was actually a deadline. I'm not sure what you think the difference is. The EOL says 'the = FreeBSD project no longer supports this configuration'. If you are not = relying on us for support (i.e. using an old or forked ports tree, or = building your own packages), then things will continue to work. If you = are expecting (unpaid, volunteer) support from the project in the form = of packages and a useable ports tree, then you need to use a supported = configuration. If being able to use the ports tree without installing pkg(8) is = sufficiently valuable to you, then I can put you in touch with some = companies that will backport things to a copy of the ports tree for your = use (although the price tag will scale with the number of ports that you = want to support). If, however, your complaint is that it's hard to get new software = certified for your system *then this change has absolutely no effect on = you!* If you're not worried about upgrading ports at all, then you can = just stick with the ports tree version from the time of your release. = If you're able to upgrade ports, then upgrading the pkg port should not = be an issue. David