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Date:      Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:32:55 -0600
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>
Cc:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, jcarlos@bahianet.com.br, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG, hitech@bahianet.com.br
Subject:   Re: Out of mbuf clusters
Message-ID:  <37E6A807.7E07D48A@softweyr.com>
References:  <199909201247.OAA08309@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <v0420551fb40c1bf1992f@[195.238.1.121]>

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Brad Knowles wrote:
> 
> At 2:47 PM +0200 1999/9/20, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> > Reading the list it seems to me that you have forgotten rule #7:
> 
>         [ ... deletia ... ]
> 
> >    7) Don't run an IRC server.
> 
>         And rule #8:
> 
>         8)  Grok every single line of source code throughout the entire
> OS and be able to recode them all in machine language (assembly is
> for wussies), or you are too stupid to run FreeBSD.

Please add to that rule #10:

	10) Accept that the people you are asking the question of MIGHT
know a little bit more about the problem than you do, and be open to
their advice, even if it doesn't fit your preconceived notion of what
the solution might be.

Granted, the answer DES gave was a little cryptic.  He was also pointing
out some of the crucial operational knowlege you need to SUCCESSFULLY
operate an IRC server.  Let me paraphrase the simple answer:

"You're running out of mbuf clusters, which causes FreeBSD panic.  It is
quite simple to expand the number of mbuf clusters in your system.  Go
search for the phrase 'mbuf clusters' in the FreeBSD handbook or the
-questions archives if you don't already know how to."

It seems highly likely that ridiculing those who not only took the time
to respond to your question, but also to GIVE YOU THE SYSTEM IN THE FIRST 
PLACE is NOT a good strategy for getting more questions answered in the 
future.

Having a sense of humor will certainly help.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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