From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 1:20:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC38037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.nucleus.com (mail.nucleus.com [207.34.93.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4078243E7B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grant.cooper@nucleus.com) Received: from TCOOPER (unverified [205.206.254.42]) by mail.nucleus.com (Vircom SMTPRS 1.4.232) with SMTP id ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:20:51 -0600 Message-ID: <001f01c25c91$4c0a6c40$2afececd@TCOOPER> From: "Grant Cooper" To: "Cameron Haegle" , "FreeBSD Questions" References: Subject: Re: Apache - 403 Forbidden Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:24:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It could also be that you are not allowing symbolic link. By default on some versions symbolic links are not allowed. Search for symbolic link in httpd.conf and check to see if the section is commented out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Haegle" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:54 PM Subject: Apache - 403 Forbidden > I managed to finally get my Apache server up and running followed by getting > PHP up and running. > > Now I am trying to UserDir working. > > I have found that is I specify http://myhost/~auser I get a 403 Forbidden > message that indicates that I do not have permission to access /~auser/. > > But, if I specify http://myhost/~auser/index.html I can successfully bring > up the page. > > The /var/log/httpd-error.log only states that the directory index forbidden > by rule: /home/auser/www/. > > As far as I can tell I have configured the httpd.conf file correctly. I have > compared it to the httpd.conf of a properly functioning server. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance. > Cameron > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 1:56:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3952737B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA96643E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihsan_junaidi@yahoo.com.sg) Received: from unknown (HELO ihsan) (ihsan?junaidi@219.93.196.128 with plain) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 08:56:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:58:07 +0800 From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Reply-To: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <157182560558.20020915165807@yahoo.com.sg> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Error installing ucspi-tcp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, When I try to install the ucspi-tcp port, it keeps aborting with the following message : ->install: /usr/local/bin/addcr: No such file or directory ->*** Error code 71 I'm totally stumped by this.I've checked /usr/local/bin permission and all was right. I'm running as root. I tried other packages that install to /usr/local/bin and everything went well. How can I get this port to install nicely. I need it for qmail. -- Thank you for your time, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 1:59:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4137B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20603.mail.yahoo.com (web20603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD3E943E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 01:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelrmgreen@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20020915085950.8189.qmail@web20603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.1.45.10] by web20603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:59:50 BST Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:59:50 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?michael=20green?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to get terminals to work on 4.6. I get garbled output (missing characters) to the screen. I am using an existing 3 wire installation. Perhaps xon/xoff will prevent dropped characters. Can someone outline the proceedure to enable it, handbook and man stty are vague on the issue and a search of the mail archives drew a blank. I have tried: # stty -f /dev/ttyd0 ixon ixoff # stty -f /dev/ttyid0 ixon ixoff # stty -f /dev/ttyld0 ixon ixoff but # stty -e -f /dev/ttyd0 still returns -ixoff in the cflags group Any further suggestions welcomed! Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 2: 7:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BE237B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta05ps.bigpond.com (mta05ps.bigpond.com [144.135.25.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C26843E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaeljritchie@bigpond.com) Received: from Michaels-Laptop.bigpond.com ([144.135.25.84]) by mta05ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta05ps May 23 2002 23:53:28) with SMTP id H2H2NZ00.5FD for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:07:11 +1000 Received: from ppp587.sa.padsl.internode.on.net ([150.101.245.74]) by psmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 110/4676410); 15 Sep 2002 19:07:11 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020915183202.00b94808@mail.bigpond.com> X-Sender: michaeljritchie@mail.bigpond.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:37:06 +0930 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Ritchie Subject: SAMBA throughput increases when NIC bandwidth is decreased Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running SAMBA 2.24 on a FreeBSD 4.6.2 box, a 1GHz PIII with 256MB RAM and a nice big, fast scsi hard drive. My problem is that I cannot get a decent amount of bandwidth out of it. I have tried adjusting the smb.conf file, based on SPEED.TXT, but I still cannot draw more than 300 or 400 k bytes/second out of it. I tried scaling its ethernet switch port down from 100MBPS full duplex to 10half, and the speed more than tripled -- up to 1200 kbytes / second. I can't explain this --- help?? I have also tried a variety of NICs, from 3com etherlink 905b to Intel EtherExpress Pro100 and a D-Link card. All exhibit similar behaviour, although not to the extent of the 3com. Any suggestions or thoughts? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 2:25:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BEB37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075F843E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk ([IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8F9P8GV053338; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8F9P30l053337; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:02 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Daryl Chance Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 public ip's on 2 nics (problem) Message-ID: <20020915092502.GA53053@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> References: <20020915024436.90793.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915024436.90793.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 07:44:36PM -0700, Daryl Chance wrote: > I've got a server I'm trying to bring up that has 2 nics in it. I > have 2 valid public ip's, so thats not the issue. the 2 nics are 2 > seperate things. one is for dns and one is for mail (I know, I > could just go with 1, but I'm trying to get this working anyhow). > rc.conf looks like: > defaultrouter="65.221.xxx.xw" > hostname="mail.xxx.com" > #only working for xl atm. working on it. > ifconfig_xl0="inet 65.221.xxx.xx netmask > 255.255.255.192" > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 65.221.xxx.xy netmask > 255.255.255.192" > If I do an ifconfig fxp0 add 65.221.xxx.xy netmask 255.255.255.0, it > adds it, but i can't ping it (more then likely because of the > netmask AND because it's an alias? > adding it with 255.255.255.192 gives me: > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists Yes --- adding two IP numbers on the same network, even if they are on separate NICs is always going to be tricky. The problem is essentially to do with routing --- which NIC does the OS use to send packets out of? Which IP number does it put into the packets as the return address? Assuming you aren't interested in the ng_one2many(4) approach, which effectively gloms together several separate NICs and makes them behave collectively like one interface, then you've got to make it clear somehow that one of the addresses is the default for outgoing packets, and that the other should be used only when specifically requested. About the only possible answer I can think of is that this is essentially the same problem as having multiple alias addresses on the same NIC, so the same rules should apply: the first IP number per network gets configured with the appropriate netmask for the subnet, second and subsequent addresses use the all ones netmask, even if they're configured on different physical interfaces. ifconfig xl0 inet 65.221.xxx.xx netmask 255.255.255.192 up ifconfig fxp0 inet 65.221.xxx.xy netmask 255.255.255.255 up That should make xl0 the default interface for outgoing traffic from the machine. Now this is all untested and may or may not work. Give it a go and see what happens. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 2:28:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C14337B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EABA43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk ([IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8F9S8GV053391; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:28:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8F9S3Jp053390; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:28:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:28:03 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: c Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-08-25 - 2002-09-14 - IPFW me Message-ID: <20020915092803.GB53053@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> References: <20020915041003.6C3277A90@m20.unixathome.org> <20020915012021.51AA.CACEROLA@hotpop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915012021.51AA.CACEROLA@hotpop.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 01:21:33AM -0400, c wrote: > > 3-Sep : Managing an IP address change > > There is more to it than /etc/rc.conf > > http://freebsddiary.org/ip-address-change.php?2 > > If I have "me" in IPFW rules, will it catch the 2 IPs? Yes. ipfw(8) says: me matches any IP address configured on an interface in the system. The address list is evaluated at the time the packet is analysed. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 2:36:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDBC37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EA543E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjklist@ekahuna.com) Received: from pc-17 (dyn205.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.205]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:36:15 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 02:36:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Sysinstall corrupts disklabel Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Message-ID: <20020915093615355.AAA770@empty1.ekahuna.com@dyn205.ekahuna.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Running 4.6-STABLE from 8/2002. Added a disk (1 AMI MegaRAID existing logical disk, added a new HD on Adaptec ahc0 as da0), went into Sysinstall to try to fdisk/disklabel it. Somewhere in the process of wrestling with the usual confusing prompts (no Quit option, cancel accepts, doesn't go where the cursor is pointed, gets "stuck" on a disk device and won't allow the other to be selected, yada yada) Sysinstall blew away my disklabel. This is a common problem it seems, I've run into it before. Had to manually piece it together last time on a different box. Apparently there's an old bug (someone posted in July about this) where if you try to change a partition type in Sysinstall, it hoses the disklabel. Well I didn't *actually* try to change the partition type, but I may have pressed the command once in Sysinstall and then tried to cancel out. (but who knows, with Sysinstall it's often like Orwell's 1984: War is Peace, Yes is No, cancel is accept.. :-) Anyway, I don't have a backup copy of the disklabel, currently the in- memory version just shows a "c" partition, if I try to read it from disk I get "disklabel: bad pack magic number (label is damaged...)" Is there a shortcut to getting this back or do I have to go through the partitions one-by-one and try to figure out all the offsets? (This machine has 6 partitions on it) Funny thing is the system seems to boot OK, df and mount output look normal, etc. But I can't do anything with the disks like disklabel the new one, etc. TIA, Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 3:18:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC24537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 03:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smarthost.yourcomms.net (mailgate.yourcomms.net [195.8.160.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CD743E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 03:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@fyonn.net) Received: from [195.8.191.5] by smarthost.yourcomms.net (NTMail 5.06.0016/GM0002.04.00842b74) with ESMTP id xnsohaaa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:16:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:18:19 +0100 From: David Haworth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Simcity 3000 Message-Id: <20020915111819.7c296b04.dave@fyonn.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello folks does anyone here play loki's simcity 3000 unlimited on freebsd? I've just bought it (off ebay) and while it seems to play fine, there are a few graphical glitches btu those aren't massively consequential, however, what is slightly annoying is that the sound is delayed by a couple of seconds. has anyone experienced this and is there anything I can do about it? I've upgraded sc3k to the latest version I could find on the ftp site dave@blink:~> sc3u -v 2.0.955a Built with glibc-2.1 on Oct 26 2000 many thanks dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 4:29: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0E037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12908.mail.yahoo.com (web12908.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5884243E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20020915112900.48665.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.221.121.204] by web12908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:29:00 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: robert Backhaus Subject: Re: "Repair" for FreeBSD To: Pookie , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <000001c25c7a$d9051670$0a5efea9@pookie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Pookie wrote: > I need to figure out how to repair man Ethernet device, or restart > it. I > noticed in windows you can "repair" one. How is this accomplished in > FBSD? the `Repair' function in windows does, among other things, renew the dhcp lease. possibly it stops and re-starts the device as well, although I've done a test, and it seems not to. (web download continues through a repair or two). This can be done in bsd by running (as root) the dhclient program. (I think). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 4:53:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D6C37B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.kibernet.si (alpha.kibernet.si [213.161.12.132]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D8043E6A; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 04:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddave@suxx.eu.org) Received: from spider.suxx.eu.org (unknown [194.249.141.2]) by alpha.kibernet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C1E5D007; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:08:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 083F932627; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:58:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF5B32623; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:58:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:58:19 +0200 (CEST) From: David Delibasic To: , , Subject: USB HP Laserjet 1000 (fwd) Message-ID: <20020915135457.B54815-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've post this several weeks ago and i've not received any replies, so i'm giving it another try :) Sorry for cross-posting... D. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:14:23 +0200 (CEST) From: David Delibasic To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: USB HP Laserjet 1000 Hi. I've searched the archives and i didn't find any answers to my problem. I have HP Laserjet 1000 hooked to USB port on one of my servers. After some fun with kernel, server correctly recognized my printer. Output from dmesg: uhci0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ulpt0: Hewlett-Packard hp LaserJet 1000, rev 1.10/1.20, addr 2, iclass 7/1 Now, when i try to echo something to ulpt0 or unlpt0 it works: [SU-SAMBA: ~]# echo qqwwee > /dev/ulpt0 [SU-SAMBA: ~]# But, when i try to cat binary file to printer (like .prn file) it doesn't work: [SU-SAMBA: /home/maddave]# file qq qq: data [SU-SAMBA: /home/maddave]# cat qq > /dev/ulpt0 cat: stdout: Input/output error [SU-SAMBA: /home/maddave]# Has anyone solved this problem ? I really need help on this one :) Please CC me in any replies as i'm not subscribed to this list. Thanx! Best regards, D. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 5:13:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A5437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay01.cablecom.net (relay01.cablecom.net [62.2.33.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA6B43E75 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: from gicco.cablecom.ch (dclient80-218-74-69.hispeed.ch [80.218.74.69]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g8FBvn20024227 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:57:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.cablecom.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8FBvnQ00726 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:57:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:57:49 +0200 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: connecting serial terminals Message-ID: <20020915135749.A675@gicco.cablecom.ch> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020915085950.8189.qmail@web20603.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020915085950.8189.qmail@web20603.mail.yahoo.com>; from michaelrmgreen@yahoo.co.uk on Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 09:59:50AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 15 at 09:59, michael green spoke: > I am trying to get terminals to work on 4.6. I get > garbled output (missing characters) to the screen. > > I am using an existing 3 wire installation. Perhaps > xon/xoff will prevent dropped characters. Do you see the login prompt? Do baudrate, stopbits and parity match? If you want to connect the terminal to a port other than sio0 you may need to enable flag 0x10 enabled in the kernel configuration. -Hanspeter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 5:18: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069FC37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay01.cablecom.net (relay01.cablecom.net [62.2.33.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 008C143E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: from gicco.cablecom.ch (dclient80-218-74-69.hispeed.ch [80.218.74.69]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g8FCI520029105 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:18:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.cablecom.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8FCI4u00400 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:18:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:18:04 +0200 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: connecting serial terminals Message-ID: <20020915141804.A358@gicco.cablecom.ch> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020915085950.8189.qmail@web20603.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020915085950.8189.qmail@web20603.mail.yahoo.com>; from michaelrmgreen@yahoo.co.uk on Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 09:59:50AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 15 at 09:59, michael green spoke: > I am trying to get terminals to work on 4.6. I get > garbled output (missing characters) to the screen. > > I am using an existing 3 wire installation. Perhaps > xon/xoff will prevent dropped characters. You may need to enable one of ttydX in /etc/ttys. -Hanspeter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 5:18:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12908.mail.yahoo.com (web12908.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A32A343E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk) Message-ID: <20020915121826.55453.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.221.121.204] by web12908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:26 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: robert Backhaus Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020914080742.753eb018.nkinkade@dsl-only.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > However, the best choice is Windows, and that is not > > changing. Nobody outside the community of geeks uses anything > else. > > > > > So, what it comes down to is: Use whatever > > > you are most comfortable with, no matter what > > > anyone else tells you. > > > > Yes. What the geeks never seem to understand, though, is that > > everyone else is comfortable with Windows (except for a handful who > > prefer the Mac). > > At this point, I think one of the big reasons that everyone seems to > be > using Windows has much to do with awareness. I believe most average > users are not even aware that there are viable alternatives to > Windows [snip] Regarding your comment, "...the best choice is Windows, and that is > not > changing." While it may be true that a majority of people are using > Windows, I do not believe that it is always the right choice. > Neither > do I believe that the status quo is not changing. Further, on your > comment, "What the geeks never seem to understand, though, is that > everyone else is comfortable with Windows." Again, this may only be > true due to a lack of awareness. I think that most people could > easily [snip] There is no question about superoirity - technically, we have one of the best. We share that with the rest of the BSD Stable, and we could have a nice long holy war about Linux. Most of us apreciate the benifits, and spend the time to set ourselves up with a good BSD Desktop. But if we counted the time we spent, spend and will spend on it, at any resonable rate, we could not do it for less than the purchace price of a windoze os, which will often install while you have a cup of tea, or maybe a 5 course `cullinary experience'. So windows continues to be the comercial desktop system, until we and the rest of the BSD/GNU world gets good support from the hardware manufacturers. That is SO another topic. For servers, no question. Most of us could learn the os AND configure it for less than the Licences. For internet structure, I'll change my tune when the 13 root name servers are running Advanced Server. But for the desktop, too much work. Fun work for us, but work. Once Configged, Brilliant! Groggy Leigh et al are doing great work with instant workstation ports, which may evolve into something like a desktop distrubution, which might get dangerously similar to a redhat distro. Linux is better along for a desktop OS, but Redhat et al have make that their buisness model, and good on them. The developers of FreeBSD are still sysadmins and such, so FreeBSD has developed along the server lines. A great example of this is removable disk mounting. I'm in XP right now - My cannon printer has defied me still, my brother doesn't think much if mkisofs | burn cd to make disks, mum preferres windows' solitare. Such are the trials of life. I would like to regain the first gig of my drive. This has stretched past the first screenfull, which reduces the signal to noise of this post a little to much, but I'll post it anyway. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 5:40:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7749C37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2A243E75 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 520023893678-0001@t-online.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17qYhi-0002an-03; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:40:46 +0200 Received: from pD950C793.dip.t-dialin.net (520023893678-0001@[217.80.199.147]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 17qYhf-1S6oeOC; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:40:43 +0200 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 15:41:27 +0000 (GMT) From: 520023893678-0001@t-online.de (Peter Ulrich Kruppa) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.7-PRE and agp module (X-Server doesn't start) Message-ID: <20020915154034.D336-100000@small.pukruppa.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: 520023893678-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Today I cvsupped my system to ---------------------------------------- # uname -a FreeBSD small.pukruppa.de 4.7-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep 15 14:01:18 GMT 2002 root@small.pukruppa.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMALL i386 --------------------------------------- Now I cannot start my X Server anymore: ----------------------------------------- # startx XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 18 January 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.6 i386 [ELF] Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Sep 15 14:44:33 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" c000:0193: 00 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not configured) (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded. (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). ------------------------------------------ This looks as if the agp module didn't run, but I get ------------------------------------------ small# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 9 0xc0100000 42d5b0 kernel 2 1 0xc052e000 ac2c agp.ko ^^^^^^^^ 3 1 0xc2396000 4000 logo_saver.ko 4 2 0xc239a000 14000 linux.ko 5 1 0xc23c8000 2000 rtc.ko 6 4 0xc242d000 9000 netgraph.ko 7 1 0xc243a000 3000 ng_ether.ko 8 1 0xc243f000 5000 ng_pppoe.ko 9 1 0xc2445000 3000 ng_socket.ko ---------------------------------------- So what did happen? Did I mess anything up? Thanks for answers. Uli. *-----------------------------------* * Peter Ulrich Kruppa * * - Wuppertal - * * Germany * *-----------------------------------* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 5:44:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170FF37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3B943E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 05:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g8FCiEB22187 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:44:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <016b01c25cb5$996d0550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020915121826.55453.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:44:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert writes: > For internet structure, I'll change my tune when > the 13 root name servers are running Advanced > Server. What are the root servers running right now? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:11:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF49B37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sage-one.net (adsl-65-71-135-137.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [65.71.135.137]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5AB43E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Received: from sagea (sagea [192.168.0.3]) by sage-one.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8FDBiS76300; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:11:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jackstone@sage-one.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020915081143.00fbeac8@mail.sage-one.net> X-Sender: jackstone@mail.sage-one.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:11:43 -0500 To: pjklist@ekahuna.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jack L. Stone" Subject: Re: Sysinstall corrupts disklabel In-Reply-To: <20020915093615355.AAA770@empty1.ekahuna.com@dyn205.ekahuna .com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:36 AM 9.15.2002 -0700, Philip J. Koenig wrote: >Running 4.6-STABLE from 8/2002. > >Added a disk (1 AMI MegaRAID existing logical disk, added a new HD on >Adaptec ahc0 as da0), went into Sysinstall to try to fdisk/disklabel >it. > >Somewhere in the process of wrestling with the usual confusing >prompts (no Quit option, cancel accepts, doesn't go where the cursor >is pointed, gets "stuck" on a disk device and won't allow the other >to be selected, yada yada) Sysinstall blew away my disklabel. > >This is a common problem it seems, I've run into it before. Had to >manually piece it together last time on a different box. Apparently >there's an old bug (someone posted in July about this) where if you >try to change a partition type in Sysinstall, it hoses the disklabel. >Well I didn't *actually* try to change the partition type, but I may >have pressed the command once in Sysinstall and then tried to cancel >out. (but who knows, with Sysinstall it's often like Orwell's 1984: >War is Peace, Yes is No, cancel is accept.. :-) > >Anyway, I don't have a backup copy of the disklabel, currently the in- >memory version just shows a "c" partition, if I try to read it from >disk I get "disklabel: bad pack magic number (label is damaged...)" > >Is there a shortcut to getting this back or do I have to go through >the partitions one-by-one and try to figure out all the offsets? >(This machine has 6 partitions on it) > >Funny thing is the system seems to boot OK, df and mount output look >normal, etc. But I can't do anything with the disks like disklabel >the new one, etc. > >TIA, > >Phil > Although I haven't used this utility that is in the ports, I seen posts on it showing successes in this type of partition recovery... perhaps at least identifying them. Not sure it does what you want but may be worth a try before the manual approach... http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/ LOL... Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Administrator SageOne Net http://www.sage-one.net jackstone@sage-one.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:23:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C752537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity.aesredfish.net (ns1.aesredfish.net [65.168.0.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F06443E6E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (mhope-dhcp-65-168-1-181.dashfast.com [65.168.1.181]) by infinity.aesredfish.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g8FDMJD20638; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:22:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3D848B52.3060108@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:29:54 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020502 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Ritchie Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SAMBA throughput increases when NIC bandwidth is decreased References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020915183202.00b94808@mail.bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Ritchie wrote: > I am running SAMBA 2.24 on a FreeBSD 4.6.2 box, a 1GHz PIII with 256MB > RAM and a nice big, fast scsi hard drive. My problem is that I cannot > get a decent amount of bandwidth out of it. I have tried adjusting the > smb.conf file, based on SPEED.TXT, but I still cannot draw more than 300 > or 400 k bytes/second out of it. I tried scaling its ethernet switch > port down from 100MBPS full duplex to 10half, and the speed more than > tripled -- up to 1200 kbytes / second. I can't explain this --- help?? > I have also tried a variety of NICs, from 3com etherlink 905b to Intel > EtherExpress Pro100 and a D-Link card. All exhibit similar behaviour, > although not to the extent of the 3com. Sounds like a problem with the switch and/or autonegotiation. Set the switch back to 100mbs and check "ifconfig" on FreeBSD to ensure it is negotiating the correct speed/duplex. You may have to manually set it if it doesn't detect correctly. Bunged autonegotiation will cause lousy speeds. Verify that your wiring is up to spec! Out of spec wiring will cause higher speed transmission to have lots of problems. If all else fails, try a different port on the switch and see if the problem disappears. If that fails, try a different switch. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:25:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A03C37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [63.93.4.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3ACE43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost.wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8FDPguF056805; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:25:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g8FDPgOf056802; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:25:42 -0600 (MDT)?g (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:25:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's In-Reply-To: <000601c25c59$c481c980$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please take this advocacy thread elsewhere. Thanks. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:31:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5556D37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity.aesredfish.net (ns1.aesredfish.net [65.168.0.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B4543E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (mhope-dhcp-65-168-1-181.dashfast.com [65.168.1.181]) by infinity.aesredfish.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g8FDVCD20675; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:31:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3D848D67.5020908@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:38:47 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020502 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gene@bomgardner.net Cc: freeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VPN via silly MSN router/modem References: <3D839336.5593.29C149F@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gene Bomgardner wrote: > I was wondering whether anyone has any experience setting up a > VPN with the following setup: > > WIN-XP WIN-98 WIN 98 WIN XP > | | | | > |--------------|------------|-----------| > | > FBSD 4.6 > | > DSL Modem/router > (PPPoE) > | > MSN (isp) > V > > ^ > | > WIN-ME > PPP is actually run between MSN supplied router/modem and > MSN. Is there a document, howto, etc that might be of help? Has > anyone set this sort of configuration up? I've done this only the endpoint machine was an NT server, not Win ME. The MPD program in FreeBSD will let you setup a Microsoft compatable PPTP server. Then you can install PPTP on WinME and connect. Install MPD from the ports, read the man pages: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mpd&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+Ports&format=html And feel free to ask specific questions if you get stuck during the setup. It is a _little_ tricky. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:36:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA6237B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-50.outblaze.com [205.158.62.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9741243E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahil@mail.com) Received: (qmail 33938 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 2002 13:36:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20020915133638.33937.qmail@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [202.165.246.28] by ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com with http for jahil@mail.com; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:36:37 +0500 From: "Masood Ahmad Shah" To: freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:36:37 +0500 Subject: www browsing problem X-Originating-Ip: 202.165.246.28 X-Originating-Server: ws1-4.us4.outblaze.com Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello my dear users, I'm running freebsd 4.6.2 I'm facing browsing problem in FreeBSD on port 80 via nat. I can browse ftp etc. and even i'm browsing local www server too on port 80. but when I browse www.yahoo.com etc via my router it's not working as it was working morning time. and even I don't change anything else in ACL etc. so is there any problme in freebsd nat. etc best regards Masood Ahmad Shah -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:37: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA5F37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infinity.aesredfish.net (ns1.aesredfish.net [65.168.0.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B535F43E75 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (mhope-dhcp-65-168-1-181.dashfast.com [65.168.1.181]) by infinity.aesredfish.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g8FDavD20709; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3D848EC0.3000306@potentialtech.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:44:32 -0400 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020502 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Vender Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pick database in FreeBSD References: <1C406202-C854-11D6-A4EF-00039369D83A@jmv.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Vender wrote: > On Sunday, September 15, 2002, at 09:16 AM, Bill Moran wrote: >> This may be totally off-topic, or it may not, so I'll risk asking. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with the Pick database system from >> Raining Data? The software is technically discontinued so I'm having >> a lot of trouble finding information on it and I've suddenly picked >> up a client that has a Pick system with a LOT of data in it. >> >> Everything I've been able to find claims that Pick runs on a Unix >> server. Has anyone ever run Pick on FreeBSD? It appears that these >> folks are currently running Pick under NT, but I can't find any docs >> anywhere that claim that this is possible. >> >> What I'd really like to do is come up with a migration plan to get >> these folks away from Pick (since it's no longer supported or >> developed) and onto something based on PostgreSQL and FreeBSD. >> If anyone has any experience with this, I would greatly appreciate >> any advice. > > Hi Bill, > > I hope the irc log below is at least some help. Sorry if the formatting > comes out bad. Thanks John, Unfortunately, you haven't told me anything that I don't already know. This client wants a web interface to the data, and more stuff added to the system. I don't have a problem learning and programming in Pick (the language looks like a cross between SQL and Fortran) but I'm guessing that using Pick is going to be problematic at some point in the near future, partially because of the problems you outline below. This client won't fork out the $$$ to do a wholesale upgrade/switchover, but they'll be happy to pay me a little every month for the next several years to do it a little at a time, and that's what I'm trying to come up with a plan to accomplish. Unfortunately, it looks like my best bet at getting at the existing Pick data will be a telnet emulation in whatever program I write. Bummer. > Cheers...John > > john@jmv.com.au > http://wwww.jmv.com.au > > > 12:20:53 PM: Janacek: anyone here have any experience with the Pick > database system? > 12:21:23 PM: bwilsonFBS: I have experience avoiding it... > 12:21:28 PM: Janacek: :) > 12:21:34 PM: Janacek: can it be run on NT? > 12:21:54 PM: bwilsonFBS: I have no idea > 12:22:16 PM: Janacek came across it back in the late 80s > early 90s, never got familiar with it > 12:22:31 PM: bwilsonFBS: My experience has been that when I tell a > client that I need data in such-and-such a way and their current system > uses Pick, they get really sad. > 12:22:52 PM: Janacek: there is no simple dump facility? > 12:23:10 PM: Cowbert: the tools are pretty much all dead :) > 12:23:18 PM: bwilsonFBS: It's not simple to dump multi-dimensional > fields to a flat file. > 12:23:35 PM: Janacek: right, so you have to write some dumping routines? > 12:23:43 PM: bwilsonFBS: Pick lets you take any given field and > arbitrarily decide to store multiple values for that field. > 12:23:57 PM: bwilsonFBS: You can nest dimensions within a field to > arbitrary depth. > 12:24:40 PM: bwilsonFBS: Yes, and you have to generate your own keys to > provide the relationship back to the former parent record. > 12:25:00 PM: bwilsonFBS: E.G. Table with columns (A, B, C) > 12:25:00 PM: bwilsonFBS: E.G. Table with columns (A, B, C) > 12:25:09 PM: bwilsonFBS: Record 1 is (AAA, BBB, CCC) > 12:25:27 PM: bwilsonFBS: Record 2 is ((AA2, AA3, AA4, AA5), BB6, CC7) > 12:25:44 PM: bwilsonFBS: Record 3 is ((AA3, AA4), (BB5, BB6), (CC7, CC8)) > 12:26:11 PM: bwilsonFBS: Record 4 is (((AB1, AB2), (AC1, AC2), (AD1, > AD2)), BB, CC) > 12:26:33 PM: bwilsonFBS: Now, how many flat files do you want from this > simple, three column, four row table? > 12:26:39 PM: Cowbert: wouldn't you be able to use something like > Monarch Data Pump to sort out the many-many relationships? > 12:27:09 PM: bwilsonFBS: It's not really many-many, it's one-to-many at > the field level, and then one-to-many again. > 12:27:45 PM: bwilsonFBS: You almost need the pk for subfields to be > (tablename) + (fieldname) + (rowpk) + (value-instance-number) > 12:28:55 PM: bwilsonFBS: The PK for sub-sub-fields would then be > (tablename) + (fieldname) + (rowpk) + (value-instance-number) + > (subvalue-instance-number) > 12:29:57 PM: bwilsonFBS: It's a real pain in the tushy. > 12:30:23 PM: bwilsonFBS: At some point, it makes more sense just to take > all the subfields and output them as comma-separated values in a long > character field so you can sort them out on the other side. > 12:32:43 PM: bwilsonFBS: It's nasty > 12:32:51 PM: bwilsonFBS: I'm told that those who program in Pick love it. > 12:33:13 PM: bwilsonFBS: Those additional values are often used to track > history of the field, for instance. The last instance is the current > value. > 12:33:40 PM: bwilsonFBS: Another common use is to pair data together. > E.G. First Name and Last Name as two attributes within a single "Name" > field. > 12:34:17 PM: bwilsonFBS: Area Code/Phone Number, or even > formatted/unformatted > 12:34:42 PM: bwilsonFBS: [2195554848,(219) 555-4848] > 12:35:09 PM: bwilsonFBS: The problem is, you need to be more of a > mindreader than usual to do anything worthwhile with the resulting data. > > > -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:49:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E2337B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4835643E88; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FDQ0a8000554; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:26:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:25:59 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Subject: Either me or send-pr is broken? Message-ID: <20020915162409.B523-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bash-2.05a$ sendbug sendbug: could not read /etc/gnats/freefall for categories list. bash-2.05a$ uname -a FreeBSD chour.hostmaster.net.ua 4.7-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE #3: Sun Sep 15 14:47:25 EEST 2002 root@chour.hostmaster.net.ua:/home/.src/sys/compile/CHOUR i386 bash-2.05a$ date Sun Sep 15 16:23:58 EEST 2002 bash-2.05a$ System was buildworlded from cvsupped sources yesterday. WBR, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:49:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F5837B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1183943E6E; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8EEgO8l091890; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:42:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:42:24 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q: FreeBSD 4.6.* on Intel D845EBT MB (Promise PDC2067 IDE RAID) In-Reply-To: <20020914173126.L49905-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> Message-ID: <20020914174129.N89656-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Q: FreeBSD 4.6.* on Intel D845EBT MB (Promise PDC2067 IDE RAID) Sorry, I misprinted :( It is PDC20267, of course. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:50: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6EF37B42F; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D114743E6E; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8EEaL8l073355; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:36:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:36:21 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Q: FreeBSD 4.6.* on Intel D845EBT MB (Promise PDC2067 IDE RAID) Message-ID: <20020914173126.L49905-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello people, Anyone tried FreeBSD 4.6.* on Intel D845EBT motherboard? Especially interesting is how an onboard Promise PDC2067 IDE RAID controller works with FreeBSD - or better to say, does it work at all? What are the caveates with it, if any? How RAID configuration works? I apologize for a silly question, and all my thanks for any suggestions of what to read on the topic. Thanks in advanse, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 6:50:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D2F37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.seattleFenix.net (seattleFenix.net [216.39.145.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A56543E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roo@mail.seattleFenix.net) Received: (from roo@localhost) by mail.seattleFenix.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8FDlk226961; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roo) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 From: Benjamin Krueger To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Message-ID: <20020915064746.G19204@mail.seattleFenix.net> Reply-To: benjamin@seattleFenix.net References: <20020915121826.55453.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> <016b01c25cb5$996d0550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <016b01c25cb5$996d0550$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com on Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 02:44:14PM +0200 X-PGP-Key: http://www.macguire.net/benjamin/public_key.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Anthony Atkielski (anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) [020915 05:42]: > Robert writes: > > > For internet structure, I'll change my tune when > > the 13 root name servers are running Advanced > > Server. > > What are the root servers running right now? I just spent 25 minutes googling for an authoritative list of root nameservers and what operating systems and platforms they run on, however I couldn't find any such list. The only machine I could find was A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET which lives in VA with NSI and runs on an IBM S80 RS/6000 running AIX. From what I gleaned of the gTLD documentation, all of the root nameservers run a form of UNIX on various hardware, and all of them run BIND. -- Benjamin Krueger "Everyone has wings, some folks just don't know what they're for" - B. Banzai ---------------------------------------------------------------- Send mail w/ subject 'send public key' or query for (0x251A4B18) Fingerprint = A642 F299 C1C1 C828 F186 A851 CFF0 7711 251A 4B18 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7: 3:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF4537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5B443E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.homeip.net) Received: from christine.energyhq.tk (christine.energyhq.tk [192.168.0.1]) by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 24903AF581; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:06:08 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: benjamin@seattleFenix.net Cc: anthony@freebie.atkielski.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Message-Id: <20020915160608.4ecea72e.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20020915064746.G19204@mail.seattleFenix.net> References: <20020915121826.55453.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> <016b01c25cb5$996d0550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020915064746.G19204@mail.seattleFenix.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--netbsdelf) X-Face: 1j}k*2E>Y\+C~E|/wehi[:dCM,{N7/uE3o# P,{t7gA/qnovFDDuyQV.1hdT7&#d)q"xY33}{_GS>kk'S{O]nE$A`T|\4&p\&mQyexOLb8}FO List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 Benjamin Krueger wrote: > I just spent 25 minutes googling for an authoritative list of root > nameservers > and what operating systems and platforms they run on, however I > couldn't find any such list. The only machine I could find was > A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET which lives in VA with NSI and runs on an IBM S80 > RS/6000 running AIX. From what I gleaned of the gTLD documentation, > all of the root nameservers run a form of UNIX on various hardware, > and all of them run BIND. IIRC, the root servers used to run on Sun hardware (i.e. Solaris) but were switched to IBM a few years ago. All of them run a customized version of BIND. It's a case where we won't see MS software any time soon (hopefully). Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk NetBSD :: Unix without hype To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7: 8:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA0737B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C108743E42; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8FE8IMu000990; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:08:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:08:18 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: stable@freebsd.org, Subject: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Message-ID: <20020915165141.V871-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi people, after long fiddling, now it works. FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE, Cat 2940XL Working rc.conf fragment *now* looks this way: --- 8< --- network_interfaces="lo0 fxp0 fxp1 vlan0 vlan1 vlan2 vlan3 vlan4 vlan5" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" # fxp0 - "internal" trunk ifconfig_fxp0="media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex link0 up" ifconfig_vlan0="inet 10.99.25.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 25 \ vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" ifconfig_vlan1="inet 10.99.23.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 23 \ vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" ifconfig_vlan2="inet 10.100.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 2 \ vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" # fxp1 - "external" trunk ifconfig_fxp1="media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex link0 up" ifconfig_vlan3="inet 17.33.33.61 netmask 255.255.255.252 vlan 3 \ vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" ifconfig_vlan4="inet 12.44.44.30 netmask 255.255.255.252 vlan 4 \ vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" ifconfig_vlan5="inet 95.55.55.22 netmask 255.255.255.248 vlan 5 \ vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" --- 8< --- The problem is: as soon as I say "link0" in ifconfigs for vlanXX interfaces, is just plain doesn't work. Catalyst doesn't see even a mac-addresses for vlanXX interfaces. Another problem is: as soon as I remove "link0" from ifconfigs for "carrier" interfaces fxp0 and fxp1 - again it doesn't work. Am I a single person who encounter the same problem? What I'm doing wrong? If this *is* a bug (not just stupidity of mine of bad documentation) - how can I help to correct it? WBR, Andrew P.S. There is no if_ef pseudo-device in the running kernel. There is a line pseudo-device vlan 8 in config. The box is Supermicro 1U server, 1 P-III CPU (of 2 possible), ServerWorks chipset, 2 onboard fxp interfaces. P.P.S. Also I can't "see" Catalyst "own" IP (seen at `sh in vlan1') after I do: ifconfig vlan6 inet 10.100.200.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 1 \ vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7:20:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198CE37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1B7143E6E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fh31415@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 5133 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 2002 14:15:42 -0000 Received: from a091198.adsl.hansenet.de (HELO host1.myhost.mydomain) (213.191.91.198) by mail.gmx.net (mp005-rz3) with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 14:15:42 -0000 Received: from host1.myhost.mydomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by host1.myhost.mydomain (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8FEGcef000941 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:16:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from azure@host1.myhost.mydomain) Received: (from azure@localhost) by host1.myhost.mydomain (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8FEGcJA000940 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:16:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:16:38 +0200 From: Frank Heitmann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Starting programs in X Message-ID: <20020915161638.A866@host1.myhost.mydomain> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody! When I start 'emacs' in an xterm window it automatically opens a new window. I would like this behaviour also for other programs (slrn and mutt for example). At this time I do: "xterm -geometry 100x50 -e slrn &", but I would like to enter just slrn (like I have just to enter emacs) and I would also like to read the geometry setting from .Xresources (like emacs does). I could create a small script with just the above line in it to start slrn, but I believe there is another way to do this - one I do not know yet :) Cheers, Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7:26:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0459E37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.inf.ufsc.br (terra.inf.ufsc.br [150.162.60.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BB443E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maianeto@inf.ufsc.br) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terra.inf.ufsc.br (Departamento de Informatica e Estatistica (INE/CTC/UFSC)) with ESMTP id C6593174A9 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:37:00 -0300 (BRT) Received: from screammer (inf185.inf.ufsc.br [150.162.60.185]) by terra.inf.ufsc.br (Departamento de Informatica e Estatistica (INE/CTC/UFSC)) with ESMTP id 1261D1788C for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:36:57 -0300 (BRT) From: "Luiz Rodrigues Maia Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 11:40:17 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: subscribe Reply-To: maianeto@inf.ufsc.br Message-ID: <3F65A521.8114.903E17A@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12pre5 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe maianeto@inf.ufsc.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7:31:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0ED37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCF743E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:31:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fBSD@itab.com) Received: from [10.0.0.103] ([12.236.220.246]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020915143147.YLKS16829.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[10.0.0.103]> for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:31:47 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:31:45 -0700 Subject: /etc/make.conf ? From: fBSD To: FreeBSD Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Going step-by-step with the handbook upgrade (21.4 Using make world) I'm up to "21..4.2 Check /etc/make.conf" I don't have /etc/make.conf but I do have an /etc/defaults/make.conf. The handbook says, "A typical user will probably want to copy the CFLAGS and NOPROFILE lines..." to make.conf. Now this all seems reasonable except I'm led to believe "make world" would work fine without an /etc/make.conf file or if I did create an /etc/make.conf with the CFLAGS and NOPROFILE lines it would do things I don't understand, like: CFLAGS= -O -pipe and is BDECFLAGS a CFLAG? BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \ -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Wconversion -Winline \ -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \ -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes \ -Wwrite-strings The above BDECFLAGS is uncommented in the /etc/defaults/make.conf file, as if everyone should do this, but the description sounds like FreeBSD developer stuff only. Huh? And the 4.2 that's on the machine now was installed without games or X so should I put these lines in my /etc/make.conf? #From /etc/defaluts/make.conf NO_X= true # do not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscmd) NOGAMES= true # do not build games (games/ subdir) Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7:42:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD1B37B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF0743E42; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from house.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FEg7ho027830; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:42:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020915103800.03d6c5f0@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:43:53 -0400 To: Andrew Stesin From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, In-Reply-To: <20020915165141.V871-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: amavis-20020220 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why do you need the link0 portion ? Also, whatever you assign fxp0 will be part of the Cisco native VLAN So just try ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.100.200.1 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" fconfig_vlan0="inet 10.99.25.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 25 vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up" and so on... Post your Cisco port configs as well. As you are specifying speeds and duplex settings, I take it you are doing the same on your cat right ? It would have to look something like interface FastEthernet0/20 description FreeBSD Internal trunking ports speed 100 duplex full switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,2,23,25,1002-1005 switchport mode trunk ! ---Mike At 05:08 PM 9/15/2002 +0300, Andrew Stesin wrote: >Hi people, > >after long fiddling, now it works. FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE, Cat 2940XL > >Working rc.conf fragment *now* looks this way: > >--- 8< --- > >network_interfaces="lo0 fxp0 fxp1 vlan0 vlan1 vlan2 vlan3 vlan4 vlan5" >ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" > ># fxp0 - "internal" trunk > >ifconfig_fxp0="media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex link0 up" >ifconfig_vlan0="inet 10.99.25.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 25 \ > vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" >ifconfig_vlan1="inet 10.99.23.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 23 \ > vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" >ifconfig_vlan2="inet 10.100.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 2 \ > vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp" > ># fxp1 - "external" trunk > >ifconfig_fxp1="media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex link0 up" >ifconfig_vlan3="inet 17.33.33.61 netmask 255.255.255.252 vlan 3 \ > vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" >ifconfig_vlan4="inet 12.44.44.30 netmask 255.255.255.252 vlan 4 \ > vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" >ifconfig_vlan5="inet 95.55.55.22 netmask 255.255.255.248 vlan 5 \ > vlandev fxp1 mtu 1500 up arp" > >--- 8< --- > >The problem is: as soon as I say "link0" in ifconfigs for vlanXX >interfaces, is just plain doesn't work. Catalyst doesn't see even a >mac-addresses for vlanXX interfaces. > >Another problem is: as soon as I remove "link0" from ifconfigs for >"carrier" interfaces fxp0 and fxp1 - again it doesn't work. > >Am I a single person who encounter the same problem? What I'm doing wrong? >If this *is* a bug (not just stupidity of mine of bad documentation) - how >can I help to correct it? > > >WBR, >Andrew > >P.S. There is no if_ef pseudo-device in the running kernel. There is a >line > pseudo-device vlan 8 > >in config. The box is Supermicro 1U server, 1 >P-III CPU (of 2 possible), ServerWorks chipset, 2 onboard fxp interfaces. > >P.P.S. Also I can't "see" Catalyst "own" IP (seen at `sh in vlan1') after >I do: >ifconfig vlan6 inet 10.100.200.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 1 \ > vlandev fxp0 mtu 1500 up arp > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 7:48:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0F237B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CA4943E75 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 16617 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 14:48:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 14:48:35 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B37F8D6; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:48:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:48:29 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Message-ID: <20020915144829.GC56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20020911035308.GA90385@peitho.fxp.org> <200209130754.49828.bts@babbleon.org> <007901c25b4d$6f55f970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <007901c25b4d$6f55f970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # anthony@freebie.atkielski.com / 2002-09-13 19:46:05 +0200: > Clearly, people who run UNIX on the desktop have little else to do but > play with their computers oh yeah? i'm glad someone finally explained to me that i wasn't actually working. maybe you could tell my employer that the code i produce is actually not written by me because i just can't have the time to work. -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 4:45PM up 25 days, 22:38, 16 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8: 5:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5BB37B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF9443E4A; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8FF5TMu001409; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:05:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:05:29 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Andrew Stesin , , Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020915103800.03d6c5f0@192.168.0.12> Message-ID: <20020915175929.T1070-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Why do you need the link0 portion ? For "carrier" interface? Sorry I don't know. :( It doesn't work without it. For vlanXX interfaces, manpage states that link0 enables hardware (firmware) processing of 802.1q tags in Intel ethernet chips. It is supposed to work, doesn't it? > Also, whatever you assign fxp0 will be part of the Cisco native VLAN So > just try > > ifconfig_fxp0="inet 10.100.200.1 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex" > fconfig_vlan0="inet 10.99.25.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 vlan 25 vlandev fxp0 > mtu 1500 up" > > and so on... Sure it works, but this means - it works for *untagged* frames. And how about frames which are *tagged* for VLAN ID 1? Or maybe VLAN ID 1 is a "pseudo" one - for untagged frames only? I don't know, but I guessed that frames which are tagged for VLAN ID 1 should also work. > Post your Cisco port configs as well. As you are specifying speeds and > duplex settings, I take it you are doing the same on your cat right ? This doesn't make a difference. "ifconfig blah-blah media autoselect" also works, and speed/duplex parameters at the switch and on FreeBSD match each other perfectly in both cases. Thanks, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8: 7:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036E637B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from indigo.sparklehouse.com (dsl092-234-018.phl1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.234.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C52443E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zeek@sparklehouse.com) Received: from [192.168.1.149] (helo=DARLA) by indigo.sparklehouse.com with smtp (Exim 6.66 #1) id 17qb02-0002gN-00 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:07:50 -0400 From: "zeek" To: Subject: /boot/[...] loader questions Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:08:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm having problems finding specific information in making adjustments to the boot process. I'm trying to do something very simple: boot FreeBSD immediately, no prompt, no splash, no fuss, no circus. This is what I currently see at boot time: F1 FreeBSD F5 Drive 0 Default: F1 By means of divine intervention I discovered the key sequence "F1 -> F5 -> [enter]" would boot the OS. And ONLY in doing this will the boot process initialize. Why such a funky boot process? Is this normal or is there something wrong with my setup? All I've changed at this point is /boot/defaults/loader.conf: autoboot_delay="3" but this occurs AFTER "boot0" Cheers, -zeek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:14:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7039637B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E74D443E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 16788 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 15:14:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 15:14:48 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8EB3CD6; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:14:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:14:50 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Frank Heitmann Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting programs in X Message-ID: <20020915151450.GD56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Heitmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20020915161638.A866@host1.myhost.mydomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915161638.A866@host1.myhost.mydomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # fh31415@gmx.net / 2002-09-15 16:16:38 +0200: > Hello everybody! > > When I start 'emacs' in an xterm window it automatically > opens a new window. I would like this behaviour also for > other programs (slrn and mutt for example). i don't use emacs (vim person), but i believe it behaves differently depending on whether it detects an X environment or not. slrn and mutt are ncurses/slang applications, and as such just don't have the capability you're looking for. (i might be wrong with slrn, i don't read newsgroups) > At this time I do: "xterm -geometry 100x50 -e slrn &", > but I would like to enter just slrn (like I have just to > enter emacs) and I would also like to read the geometry > setting from .Xresources (like emacs does). > > I could create a small script with just the above line in > it to start slrn, but I believe there is another way to do > this - one I do not know yet :) i don't see another possibility besides a shell alias; i don't cosider that a valid option as it's shell dependant by nature. plus, a shell script *could* use your .Xresources file, but you'd prolly have to write a parser. it would be pretty easy, though. -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 5:02PM up 25 days, 22:55, 16 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:16:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF21C37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3608B43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07749; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:16:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3D84A448.4010609@owt.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:16:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Ulrich Kruppa <520023893678-0001@t-online.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.7-PRE and agp module (X-Server doesn't start) References: <20020915154034.D336-100000@small.pukruppa.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: > Hi! > > Today I cvsupped my system to > ---------------------------------------- > # uname -a > FreeBSD small.pukruppa.de 4.7-PRERELEASE FreeBSD > 4.7-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Sep 15 14:01:18 GMT 2002 > root@small.pukruppa.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMALL i386 > --------------------------------------- > > Now I cannot start my X Server anymore: I would try and rebuild your system. I noticed some changes in cvs-all to unbreak the i810 in stable. Apparently the i810 was broken when they added code for the i830. Kent > > ----------------------------------------- > # startx > XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) > Release Date: 18 January 2002 > If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is > newer than the above date, look for a newer version before > reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.6 i386 [ELF] > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Sep 15 14:44:33 2002 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" > c000:0193: 00 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE! > (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (Device not configured) > (EE) I810(0): AGP GART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has > agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded. > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. > > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send > the full server output, not just the last messages. > This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". > Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. > > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). > ------------------------------------------ > > This looks as if the agp module didn't run, but I get > > ------------------------------------------ > > small# kldstat > Id Refs Address Size Name > 1 9 0xc0100000 42d5b0 kernel > 2 1 0xc052e000 ac2c agp.ko > ^^^^^^^^ > 3 1 0xc2396000 4000 logo_saver.ko > 4 2 0xc239a000 14000 linux.ko > 5 1 0xc23c8000 2000 rtc.ko > 6 4 0xc242d000 9000 netgraph.ko > 7 1 0xc243a000 3000 ng_ether.ko > 8 1 0xc243f000 5000 ng_pppoe.ko > 9 1 0xc2445000 3000 ng_socket.ko > ---------------------------------------- > > So what did happen? > > Did I mess anything up? > > > Thanks for answers. > > Uli. > > > > *-----------------------------------* > * Peter Ulrich Kruppa * > * - Wuppertal - * > * Germany * > *-----------------------------------* > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > . > > -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:20:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B3137B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DD143E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FFKQbo007195 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:20:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Recipient: Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h62n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.62]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13733 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:20:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 70120 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 2002 15:20:23 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:20:23 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Frank Heitmann Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting programs in X Message-ID: <20020915152022.GA70101@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Heitmann , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20020915161638.A866@host1.myhost.mydomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915161638.A866@host1.myhost.mydomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 04:16:38PM +0200, Frank Heitmann wrote: > Hello everybody! > > When I start 'emacs' in an xterm window it automatically > opens a new window. I would like this behaviour also for > other programs (slrn and mutt for example). > > At this time I do: "xterm -geometry 100x50 -e slrn &", > but I would like to enter just slrn (like I have just to > enter emacs) and I would also like to read the geometry > setting from .Xresources (like emacs does). > > I could create a small script with just the above line in > it to start slrn, but I believe there is another way to do > this - one I do not know yet :) When emacs open a new window it is emacs itself that detects that it is running under X and opens a new window. slrn (and mutt) don't know anything about X, and in particular they don't know how to open a new window (or anything else about windows for that matter). This means that creating a script as wrapper around slrn is in fact the only way to do it. (There is actually another way, which is to add X support to slrn, but this is a lot of work and definitely non-trivial.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:22:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CCC37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [194.19.15.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0DF143E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:22:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 74849 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 2002 15:22:26 +0000 (GMT) To: stesin@breaker.tormoz.net Cc: mike@sentex.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:05:29 +0300 (EEST)" References: <20020915175929.T1070-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:22:26 +0200 Message-ID: <74847.1032103346@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Why do you need the link0 portion ? > > For "carrier" interface? Sorry I don't know. :( It doesn't work without > it. For vlanXX interfaces, manpage states that link0 enables hardware > (firmware) processing of 802.1q tags in Intel ethernet chips. It is > supposed to work, doesn't it? Here's an example of what works for me: pseudo-device vlan 10 #VLAN support ifconfig_fxp1="up" ifconfig_vlan0="inet 194.19.1.42 netmask 255.255.255.252 vlan 24 vlandev fxp1" ifconfig_vlan1="inet 10.65.0.254 netmask 0xffffff00 vlan 57 vlandev fxp1" On the Cisco 3548 switch: interface FastEthernet0/48 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q switchport mode trunk Note that the native VLAN on this trunk is VLAN 1, and I'm specifically *not* using this VLAN for anything. (802.1q native VLAN is an incredibly bad idea, IMHO. But that's another discussion entirely.) Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:28:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE7E37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirapoint2.brutele.be (mirapoint2.brutele.be [212.68.203.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238F143E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jylefort@twist.frontis.net) Received: from gateway.lefort.net ([213.189.162.78]) by mirapoint2.brutele.be (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.1.59-EA) with ESMTP id ABC71140; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:28:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from jsite.lefort.net (jsite.lefort.net [192.168.1.2]) by gateway.lefort.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B92152AE; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:28:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by jsite.lefort.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8A1CB22FFD; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:28:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:28:40 +0200 From: Jean-Yves Lefort To: zeek Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /boot/[...] loader questions Message-ID: <20020915152840.GA21838@jsite.lefort.net> Mail-Followup-To: zeek , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 11:08:23AM -0400, zeek wrote: > I'm having problems finding specific information in making adjustments to > the boot process. I'm trying to do something very simple: boot FreeBSD > immediately, no prompt, no splash, no fuss, no circus. This is what I > currently see at boot time: >=20 > F1 FreeBSD > F5 Drive 0 >=20 > Default: F1 >=20 > By means of divine intervention I discovered the key sequence "F1 -> F5 -> > [enter]" would boot the OS. And ONLY in doing this will the boot process > initialize. Why such a funky boot process? Is this normal or is there > something wrong with my setup? >=20 > All I've changed at this point is /boot/defaults/loader.conf: > autoboot_delay=3D"3" but this occurs AFTER "boot0" Hi, Take a look at the boot0cfg(8) manpage, it might help you. Best regards, Jean-Yves Lefort --=20 Jean-Yves Lefort jylefort@brutele.be http://void.adminz.be/ --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9hKcoyzD7UaO4AGoRAoLrAJ0ZVHQWcF7HCYmPnmRMsnEEDohWywCfRstm 1h1e2v14CIEm2P3l6nEL48s= =BWvj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:41:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76A537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffoon.automagic.org (buffoon.automagic.org [208.185.30.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B76843E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jabley@buffoon.automagic.org) Received: (qmail 59230 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Sep 2002 15:41:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:41:10 -0400 From: Joe Abley To: Andrew Stesin Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Message-ID: <20020915154110.GC58670@buffoon.automagic.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020915103800.03d6c5f0@192.168.0.12> <20020915175929.T1070-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915175929.T1070-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 06:05:29PM +0300, Andrew Stesin wrote: > Sure it works, but this means - it works for *untagged* frames. And how > about frames which are *tagged* for VLAN ID 1? Or maybe VLAN ID 1 is a > "pseudo" one - for untagged frames only? I don't know, but I guessed that > frames which are tagged for VLAN ID 1 should also work. On catalysts, vlan 1 means "no vlan tag at all". If you're trying to interoperate between catalysts and other devices, and you don't want to send untagged frames, then avoid using vlan tag 1. Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:41:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA96637B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.thundernet.cz (mail.thundernet.cz [62.77.87.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E82443E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: (qmail 16986 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 15:41:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freepuppy.bellavista.cz) (62.168.44.50) by mail.thundernet.cz with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 15:41:46 -0000 Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9C910D6; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:41:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:41:53 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: richard childers Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Answers (& Questions) Re: OpenSSH 3.4p1 Upgrade Message-ID: <20020915154153.GE56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: richard childers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3D7EB40F.331798E0@pacbell.net> <20020911133311.GX83171@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020911133311.GX83171@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # neuhauser@bellavista.cz / 2002-09-11 15:33:11 +0200: > # fscked@pacbell.net / 2002-09-10 20:10:07 -0700: > > ... > > > Next we upgrade OpenSSL. The current version is 0.9.6g and is available > > from both ftp.freebsd.org (../branches/-current/ports/security/openssl/) > > and from the source, at www.openbsd.org. > > > > FreeBSD purists will insist that one uses the port. I would have said > > the same until I tried it and found that while it compiled and installed > > flawlessly, I (again) wanted the new installation to overlay the old > > installation, neatly, and it was insistent on installing the new OpenSSL > > installation in /usr/local; leaving me with the task of (manually!!) > > hunting down and eliminating the bits and pieces of the old OpenSSL > > installation, in /usr. > > you could have just done > make install clean -DOPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE > but there's this prob with --openssldir; see below. ... > > # make PREFIX=/usr LOCALBASE=/usr > > # make PREFIX=/usr LOCALBASE=/usr install > > almost right (the specified LOCALBASE didn't bite you just > because openssl has no dependancies [other than those in the base], > and wasn't used) > > > This creates a pretty close installation to that received with FreeBSD > > 4.6 but it still creates a /usr/local/openssl directory and puts some > > libraries in there, if I recall correctly. > > actually, it'd create /usr/openssl, and this is a real bug imo. > OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE should set --openssldir=/etc/ssl. > > but even with openssldir set to /usr/openssl this should just work > with the openssh port, but it doesn't look like it's actually the > case. > > if you build openssh with -DUSE_OPENSSL_BASE, it expects you to have > /etc/ssl, which will break if you installed the openssl port with > -DOPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE. > > if you build openssh without the switch, it basically assumes you > have /usr/local/openssl. bummer. :| ok, i submitted a patch to the openssl port that sets --openssldir=/etc/ssl if you have -DOPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE, and it just got committed. > > I would think that critical things that are so important that they are > > included in the operating system release (OpenSSL, OpenSSH) would be > > important enough elements of a security infrastructure, that upgrading > > them via the ports mechanism would result in a neatly overlaid new > > installation over the old one - not a mixture of new and old > > libraries, executables, and configuration files. > > this *should* be the case with the openssl port and the > -DOPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE switch, but openssh obviously can't be > installed in /usr without hacking the port Makefile, although it > doesn't look like it'd be too hard. i *might* take a look at this, too. no promises, though. -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE 5:37PM up 25 days, 23:29, 16 users, load averages: 0.26, 0.08, 0.02 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:43: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F53637B401 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viefep16-int.chello.at (viefep16-int.chello.at [213.46.255.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B29343E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ant@overclockers.at) Received: from Deadcell.ant ([212.17.108.240]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20020915154300.MFWE25516.viefep16-int.chello.at@Deadcell.ant>; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:43:00 +0200 Received: from Deadcell.ant (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Deadcell.ant (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8FFgxAJ090818; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:42:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ant@Deadcell.ant) Received: (from ant@localhost) by Deadcell.ant (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8FFgsaS090817; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:42:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:42:53 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: Roman Neuhauser Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Message-ID: <20020915154253.GB42547@Deadcell.ant> References: <20020911035308.GA90385@peitho.fxp.org> <200209130754.49828.bts@babbleon.org> <007901c25b4d$6f55f970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020915144829.GC56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915144829.GC56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 04:48:29PM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # anthony@freebie.atkielski.com / 2002-09-13 19:46:05 +0200: > > Clearly, people who run UNIX on the desktop have little else to do but > > play with their computers > > oh yeah? i'm glad someone finally explained to me that i wasn't > actually working. maybe you could tell my employer that the code i > produce is actually not written by me because i just can't have the > time to work. I don't think it is of any use to discuss matters such as these with Mr. Atkielski. Many on this list have put up some filterrule just not to have to read his infantile statements regarding other people's use of an OS or how wrongly they spend their time. After several months I think I should put up that rule again. Maybe you should do so too, and save yourself some time and nerves. regards -- Andreas "ant" Ntaflos ant@overclockers.at Vienna, AUSTRIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:44:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224B337B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tartarus.telenet-ops.be (tartarus.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2792243E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gandalfbram@pandora.be) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id DDAA4DC514 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from olorin.pandora.be (D576871A.kabel.telenet.be [213.118.135.26]) by tartarus.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE2ADBE2F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:44:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020915174333.00a7b808@localhost> X-Sender: lv046/mail-in.pandora.be@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:45:33 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Bram Van Dam Subject: More EPIA problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I read a post by a certain Aram Compeau regarding problems with the VIA EPIA motherboard and its onboard NIC. All networking services seem to freeze whenever I attempt to transfer any large ( > 10mb or so!) at 100mbits. When using a 10mbit NIC in another pc to transfer the files to the EPIA pc I don't have any problems whatsoever. Has anyone had similar problems and does anyone know how to solve them? Thanks, - Bram Van Dam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:45: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125A437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [194.19.15.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F1E143E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 75071 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 2002 15:45:01 +0000 (GMT) To: jabley@automagic.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:41:10 -0400" References: <20020915154110.GC58670@buffoon.automagic.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:45:01 +0200 Message-ID: <75069.1032104701@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Sure it works, but this means - it works for *untagged* frames. And how > > about frames which are *tagged* for VLAN ID 1? Or maybe VLAN ID 1 is a > > "pseudo" one - for untagged frames only? I don't know, but I guessed that > > frames which are tagged for VLAN ID 1 should also work. > > On catalysts, vlan 1 means "no vlan tag at all". That depends on what the native VLAN is on the 802.1q trunk in question. You'll get VLAN 1 as the native VLAN by default, but you can certainly use another VLAN as the native VLAN. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:49:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F5737B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breaker.tormoz.net (breaker.tormoz.net [217.20.165.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E62143E42; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesin@breaker.tormoz.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.hostmaster.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by chour.hostmaster.net.ua (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8FFmvMu001755; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:48:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from stesin@tormoz.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:48:57 +0300 (EEST) From: Andrew Stesin X-X-Sender: stesin@chour.hostmaster.net.ua Reply-To: Andrew Stesin To: Joe Abley Cc: Andrew Stesin , Mike Tancsa , , Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story In-Reply-To: <20020915154110.GC58670@buffoon.automagic.org> Message-ID: <20020915184805.E1070-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Joe Abley wrote: > On catalysts, vlan 1 means "no vlan tag at all". Oops. Never new this. Thanks for the tip. > If you're trying to interoperate between catalysts and other devices, > and you don't want to send untagged frames, then avoid using vlan > tag 1. Now I got the idea. Thanks once again! WBR, Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 8:51: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FBD37B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD2A43E6E; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id STO34608; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:50:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.12.3/8.12.3) id g8FFi2po001208; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:44:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:44:02 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Andrew Stesin , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Message-ID: <20020915154402.GA1136@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20020915165141.V871-100000@chour.hostmaster.net.ua> <5.1.0.14.0.20020915103800.03d6c5f0@192.168.0.12> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020915103800.03d6c5f0@192.168.0.12> X-42: On Organization: Dark side of coredump Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 10:43:53, mike (Mike Tancsa) wrote about "Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story": MT> Why do you need the link0 portion ? This question was in original post. Why do you ask Andrew? It's his question. MT> Also, whatever you assign fxp0 will be part of the Cisco native VLAN So MT> just try As far as you can read this isn't enough. 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German English. info : tradeinfo@o2.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 9: 9: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC6C37B50E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c3po.artlogix.com (sense-mcglk-240.oz.net [216.39.168.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72F43E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcglk@artlogix.com) Received: from ralf.artlogix.com.artlogix.com (ralf.artlogix.com [192.168.0.4]) by c3po.artlogix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2440F1A97D; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Kirk Bailey Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: A NOVEL IDEA- no more spam! References: <3D8424F9.73E9507C@netzero.net> From: Ken McGlothlen Date: 15 Sep 2002 09:09:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3D8424F9.73E9507C@netzero.net> Message-ID: <86it17nsjn.fsf@ralf.artlogix.com> Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kirk Bailey writes: | OK, recently I saw a site with an intresting idea. SPAM PROOFING. | | Idea is, it maintains a list of people who may send email to you. Anyone else | sends in a email, they get one back, explaining it is in storage for 7 days, | they have to go there, put in their address and a brief explanation of why | they should be allowed to email you, then click submit on the form. This | unlocks their identity and they can send email to you. After 7 days, any | message is deleted. A novel idea, perhaps, but it's been pretty much done already. http://tmda.net/ The only problem with the approach is that it still allows the spam to use up bandwidth, CPU and storage on your network/hosts, and does nothing to modify the behavior of irresponsible companies or ISPs. In other words, it doesn't really have any consequences for the spammers. IP-based blocklists (run at the MTA level) are a better solution in this regard. Of course, if you don't have control over your MTA, then I do recommend TMDA as an excellent way to at least keep you from seeing what got on your network. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 9:11:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAE037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffoon.automagic.org (buffoon.automagic.org [208.185.30.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFC4B43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jabley@buffoon.automagic.org) Received: (qmail 59728 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Sep 2002 16:11:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:11:27 -0400 From: Joe Abley To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Message-ID: <20020915161127.GD58670@buffoon.automagic.org> References: <20020915154110.GC58670@buffoon.automagic.org> <75069.1032104701@verdi.nethelp.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <75069.1032104701@verdi.nethelp.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 05:45:01PM +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > Sure it works, but this means - it works for *untagged* frames. And how > > > about frames which are *tagged* for VLAN ID 1? Or maybe VLAN ID 1 is a > > > "pseudo" one - for untagged frames only? I don't know, but I guessed that > > > frames which are tagged for VLAN ID 1 should also work. > > > > On catalysts, vlan 1 means "no vlan tag at all". > > That depends on what the native VLAN is on the 802.1q trunk in question. > You'll get VLAN 1 as the native VLAN by default, but you can certainly > use another VLAN as the native VLAN. Ah, I didn't realise that. I think it's pretty common in the wild for the native VLAN to be left as 1, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 9:18:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BCC37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBDE43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk ([IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8FGHxc9070654; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:17:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost) by happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8FGHsP3070653; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:17:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:17:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Miguel Mendez Cc: benjamin@seattleFenix.net, anthony@freebie.atkielski.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Message-ID: <20020915161754.GA70355@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophi> References: <20020915121826.55453.qmail@web12908.mail.yahoo.com> <016b01c25cb5$996d0550$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020915064746.G19204@mail.seattleFenix.net> <20020915160608.4ecea72e.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915160608.4ecea72e.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.31 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 04:06:08PM +0200, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 > Benjamin Krueger wrote: > > > I just spent 25 minutes googling for an authoritative list of root > > nameservers > > and what operating systems and platforms they run on, however I > > couldn't find any such list. The only machine I could find was > > A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET which lives in VA with NSI and runs on an IBM S80 > > RS/6000 running AIX. From what I gleaned of the gTLD documentation, > > all of the root nameservers run a form of UNIX on various hardware, > > and all of them run BIND. > > IIRC, the root servers used to run on Sun hardware (i.e. Solaris) but > were switched to IBM a few years ago. All of them run a customized > version of BIND. It's a case where we won't see MS software any time > soon (hopefully). Nope. The root servers run on a variety of hardware and OS's as per http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2870.txt: 2.1 It would be short-sighted of this document to specify particular hardware, operating systems, or name serving software. Variations in these areas would actually add overall robustness. For instance: http://www.isc.org/services/public/F-root-server.html Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 9:33: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D5037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay02.cablecom.net (relay02.cablecom.net [62.2.33.102]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAAA43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: from gicco.cablecom.ch (dclient80-218-74-69.hispeed.ch [80.218.74.69]) by relay02.cablecom.net (8.12.5/8.12.5/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/20020820) with ESMTP id g8FGX3Ws038955 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:33:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Received: (from idefix@localhost) by gicco.cablecom.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g8FGX2200455 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:33:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hanspeter_roth@hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:33:02 +0200 From: Hanspeter Roth To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cdda2wav for acd Message-ID: <20020915183302.A384@gicco.cablecom.ch> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020909120557.A9652@gicco.cablecom.ch> <20020909153432.C2427@jazz.ar.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020909153432.C2427@jazz.ar.yahoo.com>; from adrianm@yahoo-inc.com on Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 03:34:33PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 09 at 15:34, Adrian Mugnolo spoke: > > dd if=/dev/acd0t1 of=track1.cdr bs=2352 > > If you want to convert from raw audio to RIFF "wave" format, you can try > the sox(1) command from the audio/sox port: > > sox track1.cdr track1.wav Hm. The result is just noise. At lease with rplay. Rplaying other wavs sound ok. Is there something else to consider? -Hanpseter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 9:49:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A037B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newnet.co.uk (newnet.co.uk [212.87.80.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0AC43E65; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk) Received: from BONG (unknown@jheckford-131.adsl.newnet.co.uk [213.131.191.131]) by newnet.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g8FGmrNE046842; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:48:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jamie@jamiesdomain.org.uk) Message-ID: <000f01c25d19$b92fd340$83bf83d5@BONG> Reply-To: "Jamie Heckford" From: "Jamie Heckford" To: "Joe Abley" , Cc: , References: <20020915154110.GC58670@buffoon.automagic.org> <75069.1032104701@verdi.nethelp.no> <20020915161127.GD58670@buffoon.automagic.org> Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 17:40:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Newnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yup, cisco cats always AFAIK have vlan 1 called "default" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Abley" To: Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Bug? VLANs, fxp, Catalyst and link0 story > On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 05:45:01PM +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > > Sure it works, but this means - it works for *untagged* frames. And how > > > > about frames which are *tagged* for VLAN ID 1? Or maybe VLAN ID 1 is a > > > > "pseudo" one - for untagged frames only? I don't know, but I guessed that > > > > frames which are tagged for VLAN ID 1 should also work. > > > > > > On catalysts, vlan 1 means "no vlan tag at all". > > > > That depends on what the native VLAN is on the 802.1q trunk in question. > > You'll get VLAN 1 as the native VLAN by default, but you can certainly > > use another VLAN as the native VLAN. > > Ah, I didn't realise that. I think it's pretty common in the wild for > the native VLAN to be left as 1, though. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- ____________________________________________________ Message scanned for viruses and dangerous content by and believed to be clean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10: 1:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F58737B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net [65.194.254.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6D843E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Received: from works (works.jasnetworks.net [192.168.0.2]) by dragoncrest.jasnetworks.net (8.12.3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8FHEaxA078474 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:14:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dragoncrest@voyager.net) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20020915130611.00a4ad00@pop.voyager.net> X-Sender: dragoncrest@pop.voyager.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:10:17 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Lord Raiden Subject: Sendmail config question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I'm back again. (I promise I'll go back to lurking when I fix this) Just wondering what file I have to change and what I have to edit and how so that I can make sendmail NOT lookup the hostname when receiving mail locally. I've narrowed down all my issues with my fetchmail program to just sendmail. Sendmail is what's throwing the fit about certain DNS names not resolving. So I want to turn that feature off in sendmail so that any mail received locally is no longer checked for validity via DNS. Since this is my own personal machine and it's not accessible to the outside world, I'm not worried about someone using it as a spam relay. So can anyone give me directions on how to do this? I'm stumped. Plus I'm still somewhat of a noob at sendmail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:15:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3913837B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EEA43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198]) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FHFTLm000384 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8FHFTIY000381; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: recovering ufs after fat games References: <20020914150855.A408@gicco.cablecom.ch> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Sep 2002 13:15:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20020914150855.A408@gicco.cablecom.ch> Message-ID: <44d6rfrx72.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hanspeter Roth writes: > Installing a dummy FreeBsd is just a little tedious. > Is there a more direct means to make the old FreeBsd bootable again? Did you try the command listed in the FAQ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:18:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC1637B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A1143E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.188.198]) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FHIsLm000422; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:18:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.no-ip.com) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8FHIr0R000419; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:18:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: be-well.ilk.org: lowell set sender to freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org using -f To: Paul Everlund Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where to put binaries of a port References: <3D83A5C5.51CCCA0C@cs.umu.se> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 15 Sep 2002 13:18:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3D83A5C5.51CCCA0C@cs.umu.se> Message-ID: <444rcrrx1e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Everlund writes: > I'm trying to make a port follow the FreeBSD > standard, where to put installed files, which > is a bit hard, as I'm a bit uncertain of the > standard. That's what the porter's handbook is for. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html > The port have both an X11 binary, and a non- > X11 binary. The X11 binary is optional, and > only should be installed if X11 is installed. > The other binary should always be installed. This is typically done with separate ports, but I actually like your approach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:22:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2E937B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D774643E3B; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from pookie (155.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.155]) by windmill-en0.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8FHM6Z66424; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:22:17 -0700 From: "Pookie" To: , , Subject: IF you like your NVIDIA Graphics card Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:21:10 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c25cdc$61669af0$0100a8c0@pookie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If your running FreeBSD and have a NVIDIA graphics card please go to the link below and petition for drivers http://php50.com/bsd_nvdriver_now/en.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:26: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8EF937B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-88.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324F043E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B57C866B8A; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:25:58 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: fBSD Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: /etc/make.conf ? Message-ID: <20020915172558.GB15119@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 07:31:45AM -0700, fBSD wrote: >=20 > Going step-by-step with the handbook upgrade (21.4 Using make world) I'm = up > to "21..4.2 Check /etc/make.conf" >=20 > I don't have /etc/make.conf but I do have an /etc/defaults/make.conf. The default values are listed in defaults/make.conf (commented out). You only need to list them in make.conf if you want to change the default values... > #From /etc/defaluts/make.conf > NO_X=3D true # do not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscm= d) > NOGAMES=3D true # do not build games (games/ subdir) =2E..like so. Kris --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9hMKmWry0BWjoQKURAr03AKCt06TIMQz1zWwiKhg5hZ30y+WYCgCff9jj +GCMMNCgh1Ygt5T5e2Ag4SI= =YNt5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZoaI/ZTpAVc4A5k6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:35: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter.okstate.edu (jupiter.okstate.edu [139.78.100.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0D143E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lreid@okstate.edu) Received: from dexter.okstate.edu (dexter.okstate.edu [139.78.100.26]) by jupiter.okstate.edu (Switch-2.1.4/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g8FHYup19290 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:34:56 -0500 Received: from dexter.okstate.edu (dexter.okstate.edu [139.78.100.26]) by dexter.okstate.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0H2H00MG4Q67QD@dexter.okstate.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:34:55 -0500 (CDT) From: lreid@okstate.edu Subject: 4.5 packages not on mirrors? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <522102509.1032111295699.JavaMail.root@dexter.okstate.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun(TM) Web Access 1.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE in my lab I operate, and I've noticed that for the past few weeks the packages-4.5-release directory is not on the i386 tree, making package addition an understandable headache. Why is it gone? When will it be back? I am distributing via NFS a separate package database and usr/local to the slave machines on the network to keep their packages isolated from the host system. This brings another question- when using pkg_add with -p and the environment DBDIR=, why does pkg_add not use those values when installing dependencies? it's a complete pain in the ass to look up dependencies for dependencies for dependencies for dependencies... of packages I want to install. Is this intentional? Should I run in slave and master modes? here's my example filesystem for anyone who can help- fstab: .... /dev/ad0s1f /usr/export/usr.local /dev/ad0sig -thanks much To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:43:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE2737B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn.okstate.edu (saturn.okstate.edu [139.78.100.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56ACA43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lreid@okstate.edu) Received: from dexter.okstate.edu (dexter.okstate.edu [139.78.100.26]) by saturn.okstate.edu (Switch-2.1.4/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g8FHhiJ16796 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:43:44 -0500 Received: from dexter.okstate.edu (dexter.okstate.edu [139.78.100.26]) by dexter.okstate.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with SMTP id <0H2H00M6CQKWND@dexter.okstate.edu> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:43:44 -0500 (CDT) From: lreid@okstate.edu Subject: 4.5 packages not on mirrors? -for real this time To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <522450489.1032111824130.JavaMail.root@dexter.okstate.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun(TM) Web Access 1.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE in my lab I operate, and I've noticed that for the past few weeks the packages-4.5-release directory is not on the i386 tree, making package addition an understandable headache. Why is it gone? When will it be back? I am distributing via NFS a separate package database and usr/local to the slave machines on the network to keep their packages isolated from the host system. This brings another question- when using pkg_add with -p and the environment DBDIR=, why does pkg_add not use those values when installing dependencies? it's a complete pain in the ass to look up dependencies for dependencies for dependencies for dependencies... of packages I want to install. Is this intentional? Should I run in slave and master modes? here's my example filesystem for anyone who can help- fstab: .... /dev/ad0s1f /usr/export/usr.local /dev/ad0sig /usr/export/var .... exports: .... /export/usr.local -ro -maproot=nobody -[network filter flags] /export/var/db/pkg -ro -maproot=nobody -[network filter flags] .... now, quite obviously I want packages for this host machine to install in /usr/local and install db entries in /var/db/pkg. for the machines I am exporting filesystems to, I am managing their packages on the host machine - these filesystems must not map root access ever, and managing the packages from the slave systems has not worked out well at all. So when I want to add a package for the slaves, I set the environment $PKG_DBDIR to the value "/usr/export/var/db/pkg" and run pkg_add as so: pkg_add -p ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/path/to/packages pkg_filename It will install the package into the correct root and dbdir, but all dependencies will go to the default /usr/local and /var/db/pkg. -thanks much please send any replies cc to me directly, I'm not subscribed to the list. Reid Linnemann To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:43:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE66937B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473CC43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfolkins@comcast.net) Disposition-notification-to: dfolkins@comcast.net Received: from groovy3xp (pcp01731796pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.131.193]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with SMTP id <0H2H00DFDQL1W2@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:43:41 -0400 From: dfolkins Subject: Re: www browsing problem To: Masood Ahmad Shah , freeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <003801c25cdf$6e63c590$0a00a8c0@groovy3xp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20020915133638.33937.qmail@mail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm running freebsd 4.6.2 I'm facing browsing problem in FreeBSD on port 80 via nat. I can browse ftp etc. and even i'm browsing local www server too on port 80. but when I browse www.yahoo.com etc via my router it's not working as it was working morning time. > and even I don't change anything else in ACL etc. > so is there any problme in freebsd nat. etc > are you running a firewall, and if so, are you sure you have set up the rules correctly? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:53:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6279737B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAFD43E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:53:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from pookie (155.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.155]) by windmill-en0.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8FHrSZ49908 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:53:30 -0700 From: "Pookie" To: Subject: JDK? Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:53:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c25ce0$c8182350$0100a8c0@pookie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying for the last 4 hours to get jdk 1.3.1 running. At the moment I'm downloading j2sdk-1_3_1_04-linux-i586.bin. The reason I'm doing this is for OpenOffice. MY question is: at some point am I going to be forced to install linux_base? Thanks for your time -Remington To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:55: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE28337B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7495543E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfolkins@comcast.net) Disposition-notification-to: dfolkins@comcast.net Received: from groovy3xp (pcp01731796pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.131.193]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.4 (built Aug 5 2002)) with SMTP id <0H2H00JRDR3L58@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:54:49 -0400 From: dfolkins Subject: Re: mounting problem To: Jon-Paul Gonzalez , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <004f01c25ce0$fcb141a0$0a00a8c0@groovy3xp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > the cdrom isnt mounted because I umount /dev/acd0c, and the when I tried to > mount it outside of KDE it said device busy. um, ok, try the following sequence of commands (the umount is there just in case, and the cd / is there to make sure your cwd is not /cdrom, which is useful for umount.) cd / umount /cdrom mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0c /cdrom see if that works for you. > another problem I am having is > that in my /etc/fstab file I dont see my floppy drive as a mountable drive. > any help would help. use the device /dev/fd0 to mount a floppy. e.g.: mkdir /mnt/floppy mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy if its an msdos floppy, try using mount_msdos instead of just mount -- dfolkins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 10:58:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7137B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (blackend.org [212.11.50.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9436643E3B; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from marduk.blackend.org (marduk.blackend.org [192.168.1.202]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8FHroUx036167; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:53:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from marduk.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marduk.blackend.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FHtvnZ040156; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:55:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@localhost.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by marduk.blackend.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8FHtttW040155; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:55:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:55:54 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Pookie Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chopra@netexplorer.org Subject: Re: IF you like your NVIDIA Graphics card Message-ID: <20020915175554.GB262@marduk.blackend.org> References: <000001c25cdc$61669af0$0100a8c0@pookie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c25cdc$61669af0$0100a8c0@pookie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 10:21:10AM -0700, Pookie wrote: > > If your running FreeBSD and have a NVIDIA graphics card please go to the > link below and petition for drivers > > > > http://php50.com/bsd_nvdriver_now/en.htm > A petition already exits at http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/petition.html and the persons running it are in contact with NVIDIA. It's a waste of energy to run it twice... Please contact netexplorer.org people and join your effort. Marc PS: Cc to Munish Chopra, the Communication contact of "The FreeBSD NVIDIA Driver Initiative" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11: 2:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22ED037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skytrackercanada.com (cust29.209.188.66.dsl.accessv.com [209.188.66.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEF943E6E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@skytrackercanada.com) Received: (from david@localhost) by skytrackercanada.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) id g8FI24rX023111 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:02:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:02:03 -0400 From: David Banning To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: copying a cdrom Message-ID: <20020915140203.A23107@skytrackercanada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am familiar with how to make an iso and then burn it to a cdrom. How do I copy an existing ISO from the cdrom to the file system, -as- an ISO file? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11: 7:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2352737B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6558F43E42; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [66.92.160.223]) by sasami.jurai.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FI79Vu095811; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:07:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:07:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Pookie Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, , Subject: Re: IF you like your NVIDIA Graphics card In-Reply-To: <000001c25cdc$61669af0$0100a8c0@pookie> Message-ID: <20020915140001.I1867-100000@sasami.jurai.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Pookie wrote: > If your running FreeBSD and have a NVIDIA graphics card please go to the > link below and petition for drivers > > http://php50.com/bsd_nvdriver_now/en.htm FreeBSD is already on NVIDIA's radar. The driver has already been ported. I'm told that all the standard Linux games work just fine (Q3, Tribes2, RtCW, the UT2003 demo etc.) As those who have been following this topic know the drivers will be released "any day now". Besides, this sort of petition has already been done: http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/ -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11: 8:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EC137B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB19543E6E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfolkins@comcast.net) Disposition-notification-to: dfolkins@comcast.net Received: from groovy3xp (pcp01731796pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.131.193]) by mtaout05.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.8 (built May 13 2002)) with SMTP id <0H2H00DZRRQ4UP@mtaout05.icomcast.net> for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:08:20 -0400 From: dfolkins Subject: Re: dns server To: Charles Pelletier , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <007401c25ce2$dfb52470$0a00a8c0@groovy3xp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <001401c25b9a$eeb27840$32040101@hume> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Charles Pelletier" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: dns server > curious: > what advantage is there in building my own dns server over just setting > static IP's for my internal network? do the advantages really only exist for > larger networks (my internal home network consists of only 3 computers other > than the gateway)? looks like what you are looking for is dhcp rather than dns. dhcp is for automatically assigning ip addresses to machines on a network (as opposed to statically setting them). dns is for translating a name (like yahoo.com) to an actual ip address (like 123.123.123.123). if dhcp really is what you are talking about, then yes, even for 3 computers i would recommend setting up dhcp on the internal interface of your gateway, for several reasons. one, its really easy. two, setting ip addresses manually is a pain. three, if you need to add some other computers, or decide to change the internal network address (e.g. for some reason you will want to use 192.168.1.255 instead of 192.168.0.255), its as easy as editing a dhcpd conf file, rather than having to go changing network settings for all of your machines. imagine you or your friend bringing a laptop and wanting to use the net - all you have to do is plug in and dhcp will take care of the settings. and besides, then you can say "i am running a dhcp server". :) if you are really talking about dns, then depending on your usage you may or may not want to do it. first, its more involved than dhcp. and second there is really no need if all the computers on the network are clients and not servers. -- dfolkins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:12: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37D437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F0443E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 219675360; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D54E535F; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Pookie Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JDK? In-Reply-To: <000001c25ce0$c8182350$0100a8c0@pookie> Message-ID: <20020915110844.S71239-100000@q.closedsrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-09-15, Pookie scribbled: # I've been trying for the last 4 hours to get jdk 1.3.1 running. At the # moment I'm downloading j2sdk-1_3_1_04-linux-i586.bin. The reason I'm # doing this is for OpenOffice. MY question is: at some point am I going # to be forced to install linux_base? I believe that the FreeBSD version of the J2SE 1.3.1 JDK requires the Linux version... which in turn requires linux_base. -- Linh Pham lplist@closedsrc.org Webmaster and FreeBSD Geek http://closedsrc.org closedsrc.org Every solution breeds new problems To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:14:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB3C37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net (colossus.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E8B43E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stacey@Demon.vickiandstacey.com) Received: from Demon (81-86-129-77.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.129.77]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007861600071F; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:14:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Request for proof of sendmail config procedure From: Stacey Roberts Reply-To: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com To: dan@slightlystrange.org Cc: FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20020909184157.GA5228@catflap.home.slightlystrange.org> References: <1031506596.16286.89.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <20020909102727.GA3392@catflap.home.slightlystrange.org> <1031595414.345.14.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <20020909184157.GA5228@catflap.home.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tiPa0ih0c8OtZa2QH5NC" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 15 Sep 2002 19:14:12 +0100 Message-Id: <1032113653.353.30.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-tiPa0ih0c8OtZa2QH5NC Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniel, Sorry to have to come back to you on this again, but I need some clarification on one point you made in your last reply about running a caching nameserver. Where you mentioned: > You can certainly run a caching nameserver - this is actually quite a > polite thing to do - the more you cache, the less you send out to the > 'Net. I use BIND for this, and the config is pretty straight forward. I'd like to run the caching nameserver, but run it in a sandbox. I've been reading the online Handbook, which aptly has a section on running bind in a sandbox. There is a reference to running a caching nameserver, but I'd like to make sure I have the sequence of steps correct before proceeding. Is this sequence correct? (from the Running bind in a sandbox section): 1] Follow the procedure in the online Handbook 1.1] Create all directories that named expects to see 1.2] Rearrange and create basic zone and configuration files 1.3] Build a statically linked copy of named-xfer, and copy it into the sandbox 1.4] Make a dev/null that named can see and write to 1.5] Symlink /var/run/ndc to /etc/namedb/var/run/ndc 1.6] Configure syslogd(8) to create an extra log socket that named can write to 1.7 Arrange to have named start and chroot itself to the sandbox 2] At the "The next step is to edit /etc/namedb/etc/named.conf so that named knows which zones to load and where to find them on the disk" stage, I: 2.1] Don't worry about including Zone Entries at the bottom 2.2] Enable the "forwarders" section and enter the IP addr (How can I use both my ISP's nameserver IP's?) 2.3] Reboot What I also am not sure about is the fact that the procedure above would not (as it appears to me) include information about my registered domain name and the gateway box that my ZoneEdit account is configured with. Where the Handbook says (about running a caching nameserver): "To set one up, just configure the name server as usual, omitting any inclusions of zones." Does this really mean that I don't include the following (from "The next step is to edit /etc/namedb/etc/named.conf" section): // Zones follow: zone "localhost" IN { type master; file "master/named.localhost"; allow-transfer { localhost; }; notify no; }; zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN { type master; file "master/localhost.rev"; allow-transfer { localhost; }; notify no; }; zone "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.int" { type master; file "master/localhost-v6.rev"; allow-transfer { localhost; }; notify no; }; zone "." IN { type hint; file "master/named.root"; }; I'm sorry if this is all jumbled up, but I think I referenced the relevant sections of the Handbook as best I can for the format of the question posed. Do let me know if I need to explain myself any better, please. Thanks in advance. Stacey On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 19:41, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 07:16:53PM +0100, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > Sorry my reply is this late. >=20 > No problem - I have a day job that gets in the way of reading the lists, > too! ;-) >=20 > > I actually *do* have an account with ZoneEdit.com, and I use ddclient t= o > > check and update my external IP address. >=20 > Yep, sounds right. >=20 > > Currently, ZoneEdit provide the two nameservers with which I registered > > my domain name, and as such provide primary DNS for my domain (as > > against my ISP's nameservers which are used on my FBSD g'way in > > /etc/resolv.conf) > >=20 > > Like I said, I've not done *anything* to sendmail as yet, but would lik= e > > to run a mail server that processes mail for my domain. Here's what I > > know what is expected: > >=20 > > Run "make" in /etc/mail > > Create local-hostname file in /etc/mail and populate with the domains > > sendmail is to act for > > Backup sendmail.cf & hostname.mc (or freebsd.mc in my case) > > Edit .mc file in /etc/mail > > Use m4 compiler to generate hostname.cf > > Copy hostname.cf to sendmail.cf > > Restart sendmail >=20 > As I mentioned earlier, I can't help with this - exim is (IMHO) far easie= r > to manage than sendmail - the sendmail config file makes me feel slightly > queasy... I know you can make it masquerade though, but I'll not try > to explain how - I'll leave it to someone who knows. >=20 > > Now from what I know of sendmail, attempting to run a fully configured > > (with FQDN; mailer rules & masquerading) sendmail with a badly / non / > > incorrectly configured DNS is just asking for trouble - hence my post. = I > > am sorry if my initial post was less than clear on the info I require. > >=20 > > In essence then:- > > Do I / Can I run my own nameserver on my local network? > > Do I create slave or master zone entries? >=20 > You can certainly run a caching nameserver - this is actually quite a > polite thing to do - the more you cache, the less you send out to the > 'Net. I use BIND for this, and the config is pretty straight forward. > Others use djbdns, but I never got on with it. See which you prefer. >=20 > Following on from that, no, you won't run any primary or slave zones. > ZoneEdit's servers will answer requests for your mail server's address > when another mail server has something to deliver. My ZoneEdit account > specifies that mail for my domain is directed to my host - there is no > need to specify more then this to handle incoming mail. >=20 > For outgoing mail, you can either use your ISP's resolvers, or, if you > set up a caching name server, set your primary resolver to 127.0.0.1. > The config for your resolver will then have settings for upstream resolve= rs > to query - usually your ISP's, again. Sendmail (and any other app that > needs name resolution services) will then use the right resolvers, based > on what they find in /etc/resolv.conf >=20 > I hope I am closer to the mark this time! ;-) >=20 > Dan >=20 > > Like I mentioned earlier, I would understand if this is asking too much > > in one post, but I'd appreciate someone who might have been in the same > > situation to give me some pointers / guidance on this one. > >=20 > > Thanks for taking the time to respond, Dan. > >=20 > > Stacey > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Daniel Bye >=20 > PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc > PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com --=-tiPa0ih0c8OtZa2QH5NC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUAPYTN85vQeubckvvXAQFR9AgArkugYULCy9M5du3EuRsinpK9s5BBgD0v oKFQ25eUJezx3et0jeBudSTolV3EpCz9buPgw7LBV1e02+Xh1Zc19+AdO9kREZuF 6doB2kiBaWJdx3aJ3rDMAcWvwsntHEc/gj/g7LoGvQehW0o8vrj/2kDCp3M43liL ntAk4wQ0Au0MmEvZuAxWCY3O0GoECxsh2cPRQ67E+qa8qhbgts8IVz2QXVzXQzgb zU4+jvK6ln9so7omuK1Pixhp1jTHxRIXfxWu3clI4qTgX69Dtj539UHic3zIOy8+ RNvR+UM0JzAQtr49WGnVPaBtLND04eM0brd/VAvRqcz6xgM0GOseYw== =PbQq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tiPa0ih0c8OtZa2QH5NC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:26:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B44037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB5643E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottro@nyc.rr.com) Received: from nyc.rr.com (66-108-172-188.nyc.rr.com [66.108.172.188]) by nycsmtp1out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with SMTP id g8FIQX1U009080 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:26:59 -0500 From: Scott Robbins To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: copying a cdrom Message-ID: <20020915192659.GA6098%scottro@despammed.com> Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020915140203.A23107@skytrackercanada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915140203.A23107@skytrackercanada.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 02:02:03PM -0400, David Banning wrote: > I am familiar with how to make an iso and then burn it to a cdrom. >=20 > How do I copy an existing ISO from the cdrom to the file system, > -as- an ISO file? It's actually covered in the handbook chapter on burning CD's. # dd if=3D/dev/acd0c of=3Dfile.iso bs=3D2048 (that of course assumes you're copying from the first ATAPI cd) The entire chapter is at=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/creating-cds.html HTH -- Scott PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Willow: I just talked to Buffy, and yeah, I think she's feeling a little... insane. No, not bitchy crazy, more like homicidal=20 maniac crazy. So I told her to come see you, 'kay?=20 --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9hN8D+lTVdes0Z9YRAixUAKCYM64f+THTETnlUEeSPHYw21C2TQCfbIls M4Q5SAwnfrAZe6gMvMFltM4= =Napj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:27: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C062A37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.rucus.ru.ac.za (server.rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.115.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E2E443E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drs@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 96205 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2002 18:26:50 -0000 Received: from bashir.dsl.ru.ac.za (146.231.113.19) by server.rucus.ru.ac.za with SMTP; 15 Sep 2002 18:26:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 315 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 2002 18:26:50 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:26:50 +0200 From: David =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sieb=F6rger?= To: David Banning Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying a cdrom Message-ID: <20020915182650.GA306@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <20020915140203.A23107@skytrackercanada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20020915140203.A23107@skytrackercanada.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun 2002-09-15 (14:02), David Banning wrote: > I am familiar with how to make an iso and then burn it to a cdrom. > > How do I copy an existing ISO from the cdrom to the file system, > -as- an ISO file? Take a look at section 12.5.6 of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html#IMAGING-CD -- David Siebörger drs@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:37: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FC037B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A762943E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from pookie (155.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.155]) by windmill-en0.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8FIamZ60192 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:36:51 -0700 From: "Pookie" To: Subject: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:36:40 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c25ce6$d633aee0$0100a8c0@pookie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm looking into getting office software. I don't really like the idea of using OpenOffice to do the fact I have to get linux_base installed. I want to be able to create PowerPoint's, .doc, basically a rich suite of software. Anyone know of some alternatives? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:39:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0492D37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grillolja.cs.umu.se (grillolja.cs.umu.se [130.239.40.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D0D43E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tdv94ped@cs.umu.se) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amavisd-new (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B18A000; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:39:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: from cs.umu.se (h11n1c1o1023.bredband.skanova.com [213.64.164.11]) by grillolja.cs.umu.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82EFA00F; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:39:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3D84D3ED.DDBDEB5F@cs.umu.se> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:39:41 +0200 From: Paul Everlund X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: sv,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where to put binaries of a port References: <3D83A5C5.51CCCA0C@cs.umu.se> <444rcrrx1e.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new amavisd-new-20020630 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Thanks for your reply! > Paul Everlund writes: > > > I'm trying to make a port follow the FreeBSD > > standard, where to put installed files, which > > is a bit hard, as I'm a bit uncertain of the > > standard. > > That's what the porter's handbook is for. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html I've read it, but it says nothing about mixed bi- naries, where the non-X11 always will be installed, and the other is optional. > > The port have both an X11 binary, and a non- > > X11 binary. The X11 binary is optional, and > > only should be installed if X11 is installed. > > The other binary should always be installed. > > This is typically done with separate ports, but > I actually like your approach. Hmmm... Actually I wasn't aware that I had an approach. :-) The thing is, as stated before, that the non-X11 binary should be installed WITH the X11-binary, if chosing to install the port using X11. Where should then the non-X11 binary be placed? If installing the port, not using X11, then it's easy. Then it should go to /usr/local/ bin. Best regards, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 11:53:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.volant.org (gate.volant.org [207.111.218.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02DC443E6E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl+freebsd@volant.org) Received: from 64-144-229-193.client.dsl.net ([64.144.229.193] helo=[192.168.0.13]) by gate.volant.org with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17qeWG-000F5i-00; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:53:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:53:17 -0700 From: Pat Lashley To: Pookie , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Message-ID: <3036772704.1032115996@mccaffrey.phoenix.volant.org> In-Reply-To: <000201c25ce6$d633aee0$0100a8c0@pookie> References: <000201c25ce6$d633aee0$0100a8c0@pookie> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========456902324==========" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==========456902324========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:36:40 AM -0700 Pookie=20 wrote: > I'm looking into getting office software. I don't really like the idea > of using OpenOffice to do the fact I have to get linux_base installed. I > want to be able to create PowerPoint's, .doc, basically a rich suite of > software. Anyone know of some alternatives? You don't need linux_base if you install the FreeBSD native version of OpenOffice via the port. (I'm not sure if there is currently a pre-built package available.) -Pat --==========456902324========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9hNcencYNbLD8wuMRApUlAJ9wz+6tJ1yN3qj1th3uBsBKXfTv3gCgihYf ttsEnFqT5T1QPPGqU0OYhSQ= =H+l4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========456902324==========-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 12: 3:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8619237B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wxp.homeip.net (adsl-212-101-16-119.solnet.ch [212.101.16.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CD8843E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pbrossin@swissgeeks.com) Received: (qmail 5466 invoked by uid 8); 15 Sep 2002 19:03:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP id smtpdgoXiq6; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 15:03:32 EDT Received: from nitrox (pierrick.wxp.homeip.net [10.0.0.50]) by server.wxp.homeip.net (AvMailGate-2.0.0.9) id 05456-21CE1172; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:03:32 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01c25cea$940d56c0$3200000a@nitrox> Reply-To: "Brossin Pierrick" From: "Brossin Pierrick" To: , , References: <20020915140001.I1867-100000@sasami.jurai.net> Subject: Re: IF you like your NVIDIA Graphics card Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:03:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiVirus: OK! AntiVir MailGate Version 2.0.0.9; AVE: 6.15.0.0; VDF: 6.15.0.6 at wxp.homeip.net has not found any known virus in this email. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: The driver has already been ported. :: :: I'm told that all the standard Linux games work just fine (Q3, :: Tribes2, RtCW, the UT2003 demo etc.) OK.. I've been looking on the net for hours. Can you gimme the link where I'll be able to download the drivers please ? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 12: 8:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD537B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f73.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D58043E3B; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris__byrnes@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:08:52 -0700 Received: from 24.209.185.161 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:08:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.209.185.161] From: "Chris Byrnes" To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: arplookup xx.xxx.xx.xxx failed: host is not on local network Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:08:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2002 19:08:52.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[54451A40:01C25CEB] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My /var/log/messages is being filled, non-stop, by these errors looped: Sep 15 13:41:28 servername /kernel: arplookup xx.xxx.xx.xxx failed: host is not on local network Sep 15 13:41:28 servername /kernel: arplookup xx.xxx.xx.xxx failed: host is not on local network After doing some reading, I've already issued, "sysctl -w net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface=0" thinking that would fix the problem. Unfortunately, it has not. Any ideas? [Please CC in replies; not subscribed.] _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 12:15:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E81537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACCE43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.homeip.net) Received: from christine.energyhq.tk (christine.energyhq.tk [192.168.0.1]) by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B7C8AF581; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:53:57 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: "Pookie" Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Message-Id: <20020915205357.0faa3dfb.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <000201c25ce6$d633aee0$0100a8c0@pookie> References: <000201c25ce6$d633aee0$0100a8c0@pookie> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--netbsdelf) X-Face: 1j}k*2E>Y\+C~E|/wehi[:dCM,{N7/uE3o# P,{t7gA/qnovFDDuyQV.1hdT7&#d)q"xY33}{_GS>kk'S{O]nE$A`T|\4&p\&mQyexOLb8}FO List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:36:40 -0700 "Pookie" wrote: > I'm looking into getting office software. I don't really like the idea > of using OpenOffice to do the fact I have to get linux_base installed. I > want to be able to create PowerPoint's, .doc, basically a rich suite of > software. Anyone know of some alternatives? OpenOffice has been running natively for a while: http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk NetBSD :: Unix without hype To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 12:52:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83C537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web13808.mail.yahoo.com (web13808.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B39AC43E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murcielako@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20020915195229.99615.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.185.156.221] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:52:29 CDT Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:52:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Jorge=20Mario=20G.?=" Subject: Re: Modifying the FreeBSD boot loader To: Mark Hannon Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3D83DC3E.16571C25@optusnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Mark Hannon escribió: > > > Hi Mark > > > > I reinstalled 4.6.2-RELEASE > > and I'm using Windows 2000 in the primary > partition > > thanks > > > > ntfs or fat filesystem with win2k? > /mark its NTFS ===== _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13: 8:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCE337B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f44.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAF143E42 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chopsuey1973@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:08:14 -0700 Received: from 24.220.184.1 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 20:08:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.220.184.1] From: "Joe Smith" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CVS Problems Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:08:14 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2002 20:08:14.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FBFA320:01C25CF3] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have created a CVS repository on one machine and set up a user and imported a project from another machine just fine. When I try to checkout the project using this command: cvs -d :pserver:cvs@192.168.1.1:/usr/local/cvs checkout myproject I get this error, any ideas or hints? Thanks cvs checkout: cannot open CVS/Entries for reading: No such file or directory cvs [checkout aborted]: no repository _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13: 8:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A6337B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89FA543E3B; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:08:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 15 Sep 2002 21:08:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:08:42 +0100 From: David Malone To: Chris Byrnes Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arplookup xx.xxx.xx.xxx failed: host is not on local network Message-ID: <20020915200841.GA3330@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > Sep 15 13:41:28 servername /kernel: arplookup xx.xxx.xx.xxx failed: host is > not on local network > > Any ideas? I'd guess you have your default route pointed at a machine which isn't within the range of addresses given by the netmask for your interfaces? (Or something similar...) David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:11: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BF937B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perimeter.co.za (obelix.perimeter.co.za [209.212.102.154]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E71043E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@perimeter.co.za) Received: from asterix ([196.30.116.33]) (AUTH: LOGIN bsd@perimeter.co.za) by perimeter.co.za with esmtp; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:10:51 +0200 Message-ID: <005801c25cf4$1e4af640$0200000a@perimeter.co.za> From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Lowell Gilbert" Cc: "FreeBSD Question List" References: <006d01c25b12$f191ac30$b50d030a@PATRICK> <44y9a6udvc.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Subject: Re: MIME unbundler Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:11:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Lowell Gilbert" > > I am looking for a utility, preferably in the ports, which can be > > used in scripts to "unbundle" MIMEd email packages. > > metamail... Lowell, I have installed metamail and tried it on a few email bundles. It certainly gets the unpacking done. Have you ever used it in a scripted process? I cannot figure out a way to get metamail to quietly unbundle the email into a directory which I have designated for this particular email. metamail wants to prompt for file names. And when I try to override this with the -x switch it simply writes the files to /tmp/. I can't see any way to customise this behaviour... --- Regards, Patrick O'Reilly. ___ _ __ / _ )__ __ (_)_ __ ___ _/ /____ __ / __/ -_) _) / ~ ) -_), ,-/ -_) _) /_/ \__/_//_/_/~/_/\__/ \__/\__/_/ http://www.perimeter.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:11:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9003537B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-242.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.242]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E237D43E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from Fffinch.local. (fffinch [192.168.168.101]) by pursued-with.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FKBcuq044687; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kevin_Stevens@pursued-with.net) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:11:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG To: benjamin@seattleFenix.net From: Kevin Stevens In-Reply-To: <20020915064746.G19204@mail.seattleFenix.net> Message-Id: <57AB774A-C8E7-11D6-8217-003065715DA8@pursued-with.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, Sep 15, 2002, at 06:47 US/Pacific, Benjamin Krueger wrote: > * Anthony Atkielski (anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) [020915 05:42]: >> Robert writes: >> >>> For internet structure, I'll change my tune when >>> the 13 root name servers are running Advanced >>> Server. >> >> What are the root servers running right now? > > I just spent 25 minutes googling for an authoritative list of root > nameservers > and what operating systems and platforms they run on, however I > couldn't find > any such list. The only machine I could find was A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET > which lives > in VA with NSI and runs on an IBM S80 RS/6000 running AIX. From what I > gleaned > of the gTLD documentation, all of the root nameservers run a form of > UNIX on > various hardware, and all of them run BIND. Until fa few years ago I believe they were running SunOS on remarkably old Sun equipment. Don't know now, but I've got a twenty that says that the most common combination would be BIND/Solaris/Sun. KeS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:19:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3695237B400; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.103.202.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6F943E72; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munish@opiate.thirteenandtwo.org) Received: from opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (munish@localhost.thirteenandtwo.org [127.0.0.1]) by opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8FKJVTC051956; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:19:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from munish@opiate.thirteenandtwo.org) Received: (from munish@localhost) by opiate.thirteenandtwo.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8FKJVRG051955; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:19:31 -0400 From: Munish Chopra To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: Pookie , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, chopra@netexplorer.org Subject: Re: IF you like your NVIDIA Graphics card Message-ID: <20020915201931.GA51879@opiate.thirteenandtwo.org> References: <000001c25cdc$61669af0$0100a8c0@pookie> <20020915175554.GB262@marduk.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020915175554.GB262@marduk.blackend.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-09-15 19:55 +0000, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 10:21:10AM -0700, Pookie wrote: > > > > If your running FreeBSD and have a NVIDIA graphics card please go to the > > link below and petition for drivers > > > > > > > > http://php50.com/bsd_nvdriver_now/en.htm > > > > A petition already exits at http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/petition.html > and the persons running it are in contact with NVIDIA. > > It's a waste of energy to run it twice... Please contact netexplorer.org > people and join your effort. > > Marc > > PS: Cc to Munish Chopra, the Communication contact of "The FreeBSD NVIDIA > Driver Initiative" Thanks for the pointer, Marc. For those of you wondering, please read the last news post(s) on the site. They should explain (most) things. -- Munish Chopra To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:27:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C6137B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windmill-en0.garlic.com (windmill-en0.garlic.com [208.195.160.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6D243E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from madriax@garlic.com) Received: from pookie (155.sm7.dialup.garlic.net [216.139.3.155]) by windmill-en0.garlic.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8FKRMZ63742; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:27:22 -0700 From: "Pookie" To: "'Miguel Mendez'" , "'Pat Lashley'" , Subject: RE: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:26:52 -0700 Message-ID: <001601c25cf6$481aeeb0$0100a8c0@pookie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20020915205357.0faa3dfb.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok. Another question. Are there 2 different versions I can install? I know theres /usr/ports/editors/openoffice. If one looks at the dependencies it requires jdk, which requires Linux_base. IS there something im missing -----Original Message----- From: Miguel Mendez [mailto:flynn@energyhq.homeip.net] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:54 AM To: Pookie Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:36:40 -0700 "Pookie" wrote: > I'm looking into getting office software. I don't really like the idea > of using OpenOffice to do the fact I have to get linux_base installed. I > want to be able to create PowerPoint's, .doc, basically a rich suite of > software. Anyone know of some alternatives? OpenOffice has been running natively for a while: http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk NetBSD :: Unix without hype To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:32:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733F437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nelly.internal.irrelevant.org (81-86-164-179.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.164.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1581443E4A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simond@irrelevant.org) Received: from simond by nelly.internal.irrelevant.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17qg3e-0001m7-00; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:31:54 +0100 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:31:54 +0100 From: Simon Dick To: Pookie Cc: 'Miguel Mendez' , 'Pat Lashley' , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Message-ID: <20020915203154.GB3976@irrelevant.org> References: <20020915205357.0faa3dfb.flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> <001601c25cf6$481aeeb0$0100a8c0@pookie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001601c25cf6$481aeeb0$0100a8c0@pookie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 01:26:52PM -0700, Pookie wrote: > Ok. Another question. Are there 2 different versions I can install? I > know theres /usr/ports/editors/openoffice. If one looks at the > dependencies it requires jdk, which requires Linux_base. IS there > something im missing The jdk only requires the linux_base to run the linux_jdk which is needed to bootstrap it, you can get rid of it and linux_jdk after the native jdk has been built if that helps -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:33:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547BF37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net (colossus.systems.pipex.net [62.241.160.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BFD43E65 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stacey@Demon.vickiandstacey.com) Received: from Demon (81-86-129-77.dsl.pipex.com [81.86.129.77]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAA4160007E9 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 21:33:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: ndc status error from new named set-up From: Stacey Roberts Reply-To: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WsIvjhQkkF6G2PHKsZfH" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 15 Sep 2002 21:33:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1032122004.376.10.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-WsIvjhQkkF6G2PHKsZfH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I've just set up, what I hoped would be a caching nameserver in a sandbox. However, after rebooting, I wanted to test to see that all is well, and got some errors from running "ndc status": # ndc status ndc: error: ctl_client: evConnect(fd 3): No such file or directory ndc: error: cannot connect to command channel (/var/run/ndc) #=20 Running named -v does *not* return errors though: # named -v named 8.3.3-REL Wed Jul 24 02:02:32 BST 2002 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named # Here's the named process: # ps waux | grep named root 130 0.0 0.2 964 612 ?? Is 9:17PM 0:00.07 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss -l /etc/namedb/dev/log bind 133 0.0 0.4 2188 1696 ?? Is 9:17PM 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind -g bind -t /etc/namedb /etc/named.conf #=20 Here's the syslog process: # ps waux | grep -i syslog root 130 0.0 0.2 964 612 ?? Ss 9:17PM 0:00.07 /usr/sbin/syslogd -ss -l /etc/namedb/dev/log #=20 I've followed the online handbook (for running bind in a sandbox) to a tee here, and now I'm not sure of where I go from here. Could someone take a look at this, please? Stacey --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science Web: www.vickiandstacey.com --=-WsIvjhQkkF6G2PHKsZfH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUAPYTukpvQeubckvvXAQFs4AgAqkGtuNk7S+Sw7S4gFqb8PzUdQXSwax2J sDnseiLumNXKrXmWJCppOc7f+ab2wijbTJ4k/COThO4yRcJ1W7AV7qEyETbpbk4d otyrgb/GVr1Hc3wv5Q3gj2iihFGOIdbdVtiZqeyfexo+sVzOFIaivh43oc42bSx0 kM9fp1bn52tVjqChGWWMOXlFPn0rf8u6SwSdlI0ruP7c8yF9S1OG+Z+pZ05Ke8df lUX4z4pWW9NhklqJP5XVQHxuPgyuYCMuXj24z6dl/GPO81jSkPGIUiHQAT0Y7/Zj ajkFzBjrZKUA0Y0C2IZ2vdcVD7gdxOW0A8HDaBIxYG817SitYosbpQ== =Lhs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WsIvjhQkkF6G2PHKsZfH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:34:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A38437B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.volant.org (gate.volant.org [207.111.218.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0360043E72 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:34:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl+freebsd@volant.org) Received: from 64-144-229-193.client.dsl.net ([64.144.229.193] helo=[192.168.0.13]) by gate.volant.org with asmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17qg6H-000GYa-00; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:34:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:34:36 -0700 From: Pat Lashley To: Pookie , 'Miguel Mendez' , 'Pat Lashley' , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Alternatives to Open(Star)Office Message-ID: <3103572704.1032122076@mccaffrey.phoenix.volant.org> In-Reply-To: <001601c25cf6$481aeeb0$0100a8c0@pookie> References: <001601c25cf6$481aeeb0$0100a8c0@pookie> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86 Demo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="==========766643202==========" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==========766643202========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline --On Sunday, September 15, 2002 01:26:52 PM -0700 Pookie=20 wrote: > Ok. Another question. Are there 2 different versions I can install? I > know theres /usr/ports/editors/openoffice. If one looks at the > dependencies it requires jdk, which requires Linux_base. IS there > something im missing The native openoffice port uses the native jdk13 port. If you want to build that one instead of installing a binary package, you'll need the linux jdk 1.3 to bootstrap with; and that needs linux_base. But it's only needed to build the native jdk13; once it's built you can deinstall the linux_base and linux jdk13 ports. -Pat --==========766643202========== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9hO7cncYNbLD8wuMRAje9AJ0QE9WUE05iQrX5z3rd1KcItU7ziQCdFbJ/ pH1enXaOx9xtXsNW8fIHuKM= =Xfb2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==========766643202==========-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:39:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9755F37B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5785343E6A for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g8FKdOB23345 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:39:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <01b401c25cf7$fb096690$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020911035308.GA90385@peitho.fxp.org> <200209130754.49828.bts@babbleon.org> <007901c25b4d$6f55f970$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020915144829.GC56092@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:39:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roman writes: > oh yeah? i'm glad someone finally explained > to me that i wasn't actually working. maybe > you could tell my employer that the code i > produce is actually not written by me ... "The code I produce." In other words, you work in IT ... a computer geek. I'm afraid you don't count. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Sep 15 13:40:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440B137B400 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D96743E3B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g8FKeaB23358 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:40:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <01c101c25cf8$25a9b940$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <57AB774A-C8E7-11D6-8217-003065715DA8@pursued-with.net> Subject: Re: Windows as opposed to Other OS's Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 22:40:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Typ